Game Theory: Spiderman is a CRIMINAL! (Spider Man PS4)

[@hereisnickscott]

J. Jonah Jameson is one of the best characters in comics and this theory is a good example why. In most every representation of him whether it is the comics (though with such a deep history JJJ has done more villainous things in that medium but he's also done very good things not only for peter parker but many other people), the Sam Raimi movies, or this game he's always depicted has hating spider-man and spreading wild theories about him, but there's always more to him than that and a certain grain of truth in his words. JJJ is always shown to have enough integrity to stand up for others, wether it's not selling out peter parker when the green goblin is literally threatening his life in spider-man 1, or the many examples you've shown in this game, what makes Jonah so endearing is that behind the rough exterior he really does a good heart behind him when greed or his vendetta against spider-man doesn't get in the way. One of the better examples of Jonah's good side was his role in the Silk comics, where he was constantly supportive and cared about Cindy Moon.

[@jesus-qd5ol]

dascottman33 jeez😰

[@Nash-]

He still constantly tries to ruin Peter Parker's career tho

[@dohatom]

*_TL;DR_*

[@siegfried7988]

HERO JJJ

[@ichisirus]

J. Jona Jameson is the Marvel universe version of Alex Jones only...BETTER!!! Because of the crazy things going on, you need JJJ to deal crazy!

[@MastaofPasta]

It's actually amazing how similar that JJ impression at the start is to his appearance in No Way Home, including the product placement!

[@SuperiorCase]

HE GUESSED IT

[@g0tchadude356]

It was his Film theory

[@Memes-wm4kf]

I like to think marvel got the product placement idea from this video

[@Casper-hj1lb]

@@Memes-wm4kf we all do

[@samuelprince4719]

Yep, he nailed it.

[@damiandiaz147]

“Jared write that down that was a good one” The best line

[@braxtonvillagran2664]

That’s on par with, “MOM, GET THE CARMRA!”

[@Keijo_]

The virus thing at the end was way too relevant for being over a year old and it makes me uncomfortable

[@peregrinus4832]

Me too

[@dylanhansen2352]

JJJ: The whole city is quarantined Me: congratulations, you’re a prophet

[@lillyz.3674]

My eyes literally went wide when I heard that part

[@kkmusiclover_3148]

Josh Ikeda that’s what I was thinking

[@degnut9215]

He predicted it

[@ToxiChaos]

MatPats depiction of J. Jonah Jameson in the MCU was terrifyingly accurate...

[@prowthegamer]

Fr

[@Kooale-rx7jf]

@@prowthegamer because marvel hired him as a storywritter lol

[@changvasejarik62]

J.Jonah Jameson saying “You have to do better!” Both better and Before falcon and winter soldier since 1963.

[@Nova-my5ki]

@That One Genshin Dude it was revealed to me in a dream

[@carloscool7662]

even the suplements fr

[@robertcarrillo8485]

Fun fact in the comics Jonah admits he's hard on Spider-Man to push him to be better. Since one time when he started to be on spidey's side he lost his son because Spider-Man couldn't save him. He then blamed himself for not pushing Spider-Man to be better and went right back to berating him. Jonah knowingly acts as a force to push Spider-Man to be better in most mediums, he actually appreciates Spider-Man behind the scenes.

[@letyzelaya824]

Yes he does this is more proof he’s a good guy also no one replied on this comment so I am.

[@kareemcheese3.0]

A

[@stephenbyrne2170]

I don't believe that. And I never will, unless I hear it from his mouth.

[@alanalvarez2153]

yeah, and in other part, he created an anti-spider unit wich caused destruction to the whole city and used all its founds, just to capture spiderman.... JJ is confusing

[@Davis...]

*W I C H* *C O M I C*

[@DyrianLightbringer]

"Canonically Spider-Man's web dissolves in about an hour, something he even admits in the game." "Those won't hold long" 55 backpacks...

[@Canadian_Zac]

I think in the game he says he has different types of webbing. So the Temporary ones he brings around during crime fighting, so people aren't having to clean up all the webbing, just the residue it leaves. And then more permanent one for his projects

[@Sir_GrimReaper]

@@Canadian_Zac this is too much for my brain ;-;

[@thepanthion]

What if they're high on a building stuck to the wall? It'd evaporate and they'd fall..

[@Sir_GrimReaper]

@@thepanthion coom.

[@lrkcm373]

Casually forgets that some backpacks have been webbed for upwards of 8 years.

[@feelinghypothermic]

MatPat predicted the JJJ web news in spiderman : far form home

[@jack8bit]

I just realized that as well

[@galacto8769]

Yeah

[@mittens5789]

Bruh spoilers

[@datrandomdugggy5537]

@@mittens5789 the movies been out for a while now if you haven't seen it yet thats your fault

[@alexkpi1h_iykwim879]

@@mittens5789 its been out since July 2nd ur fault for not seeing it yet

[@jensennguyen02]

I think what makes spiderman as a character great is that Jonah is right, theres no reason to trust someone like spiderman. A vigilante who no one knows what they are thinking and no training. However Spiderman flies against that completely because his intentions are always pure and he knows exactly what he is doing in a situation. Its hard to question who spiderman is when he has built this career where he is able to save everyone he comes across

[@monpak1]

the quarantine part is literally today

[@youngstay2989]

“Do not violate the quarantine, stay in your homes..” *uncomfortable because of what i heard gang*

[@mahfuzvx3967]

Bruh

[@youngstay2989]

Mahfuz VX like i mean he knew what was gonna happen since the beginning...

[@mahfuzvx3967]

@@youngstay2989 insomniac knew what was up.Give or take a year.

[@ax_lz]

lol I just got spider man in may and when I got to the devil's breath part it always reminded me of corona

[@thecarnivoroustoe1778]

S A M E

[@neverknown2054]

Also, J Jonah Jameson knows that Spider-Man listens to his podcasts, and him calling out Spider-Man and pushing him to be better is something he does consciously.

[@vortexfighter6544]

was playing the game again and then I got that line I even stoped to listen

[@notmacncheese3545]

@@vortexfighter6544 same

[@drewchristopher4609]

@@notmacncheese3545 i always stop to listen when i get close to targets

[@taylandube3526]

gotta love how in Spiderman no way home j.jonah actually advertised something matpat must be psychic

[@jasonfrancis9262]

The character is an Alex Jones expy. Not exactly a prescient prediction

[@dubiousdeliquite6641]

Huh, he dealt with the quarantine better than tons of people did in real life

[@conchi1868]

:/

[@carlosarce3743]

What

[@dubiousdeliquite6641]

Carlos Arce saying "stay inside with your families, dont go running around in the city, if we try to leave the city it will only spread the disease making the cure take longer to develop", stuff like that, when in real life during covid a ton of numbskulls kept constantly going out into town with their friends At least in my town

[@carlosarce3743]

Dubious Deliquite okay I said what because I did not understand but until I watched the whole video

[@Mr_Marathon23]

Its True😉

[@masonheitner8410]

Quarantine? Troops arresting protesters? Jonah J. Sir, you have predicted the future. And you are on the right side of history for both.

[@Mr_Marathon23]

Thank you young man

[@jazzyethecrimefighter]

@Lonely Underscore those are rioters not protesters theres a difference.

[@snazzymask9620]

I'm sorry? You call those protestors? I call them street terrorists.

[@jazzyethecrimefighter]

@@snazzymask9620 there are still peaceful protests going on not all of them are violent

[@fart648]

Yeah troops arresting protesters because they got Molotovs thrown at them because a few officers abused there abilities while everyone else has to pww are h the price

[@FrogEnjoyer17]

* J. Jonah Jameson slaps desk * *I WANT PICTURES OF SPIDERMAN*

[@MrSkysenGames]

*~slaps desk~* You can fit so many pictures of Spider-Man on this thing!

[@dappercharmer9176]

Nice Meme MatPat: This is a KZbin channel about Videogame theories J. Jonah Jamieson: *slaps desk* Then bring me theories of Spiderman!

[@akmask1258]

*HES A MENACE*

[@officerspider7996]

*J. Jonah Slaps Peter* THIS BAD BOY BRINGS ME PICTURES OF SPIDER-MAN

[@Thesprittomb05]

"Law and order" DUN DUN

[@royalflush7768]

I love how he managed to perfectly predict how jj was gonna look in the mcu town to the plug for energy supplements

[@Mrs.Keisha1]

“Releases a virus all over New York” that quote hasn’t aged well 👀

[@donkor3849]

it has aged extremely well

[@aussietalks6642]

10:16 we ain’t gonna talk about how he just threw GARBAGE INTO THE OCEAN

[@2kgaming225]

That was what u had to do for a side mission I have the game

[@karu671]

Its a sewer, garbage ain't the only thing going in the ocean. XD

[@obiwankenobi1377]

Oh yehh! GRETA GET IN HERE

[@O.D25]

0:26 Wow, matpat called it

[@TheDanielk4]

Even down to the supplements 😂

[@hatenate7921]

"Peter Parker helped Otto Octavius create this incredibly dangerous prosthetic, then DOESNT SHOW UP TO WORK ON TIME!" That bastard.

[@nin3509]

O noes how could you spooder man

[@shadowultr8646]

I mean u can't always be on time while ur TRYING to save NYC and I mean trying because his fisk take down was him trying to take down the grandfather and end that whole mess

[@scarletpsychowolf3578]

Peter did tell him to not use the neural interface because it would affect his mind, but noooo, seconds after Peter left, he immediately turned it back on while watching the news about Osborn

[@DiegoGonzalez-we7cn]

Nah you the basterd

[@DiegoGonzalez-we7cn]

Bastard

[@GFDIAA]

Nice try JJJ , we know its you

[@unheardtuna1998]

Oh god he almost fooled me thanks for revealing the truth

[@Diagonalstuff]

Shinoop the Daily Bugle sponsored this

[@janjan5690]

And remember that's just a theory

[@jameschung6106]

Yeah, but it could be true🤫

[@indirectinsult]

@@Justme75007 If it weren't for Spiderman, those villains wouldn't be everywhere. Really his fault.

[@TheGoat-wd3wk]

Don’t you just hate when a jj podcast starts as soon as you get to a mission

[@GraySheep1717]

Amen

[@3zoozalm3wali98]

yeah I like listening to those podcasts

[@oscarpeterson4424]

You can turn them off in settings u know

[@narutospersona426]

@@oscarpeterson4424 i think hes complaining that they start before the mission so he wont get to listen to them

[@normal8999]

Very, I love listening to his podcast

[@SuperiorCase]

0:36 HE PREDICTED IT

[@shittyname2657]

This video was sponsored by the daily bugle.

[@christroyer69]

👏 👏 👏

[@cooperfrasca7617]

clappity clap clap clap my dude

[@EyeHeytEwe]

BugleWars😂

[@robertkovarna8294]

You mean Just the facts with J. Jonah Jameson. To keep in line with Spider-man ps4.

[@INDRA027_]

Obviously

[@Henke_YT]

This video was made by J Jonah Jameson gang

[@oboelord4610]

More like cave johnson

[@elizathegamer413]

@@oboelord4610 Honestly yeah I thought that too

[@weebaverage3026]

No joke, I was gonna joke about this

[@Iamstickman]

@@oboelord4610 he's not voiced by Cave Johnson in this game. He's voiced by Reinhardt. Also Ardyn.

[@Lambda_Ovine]

That meme is dead already.

[@aduck5011]

Proud of Matpat for getting his new job at the Daily bugle👍👍

[@generalkenobi776]

I read this as daily bulge lol

[@smoov22_sonic]

what is up daily bugle nation

[@brokengames9020]

scamderman is a criminal... what a revelation.

[@tyrant-den884]

That is my head cannon from now on.

[@mojonoahgamer5647]

He might have taken over

[@kaimorgan4976]

His bit about JJJ was so insanely accurate to No Way Home

[@DragonballBlack]

J. Jonah Jameson Hacked The Game Theorists Channel!

[@dejinnthedjinn5311]

Yo, never expected you to be here

[@darkcubix1181]

Same

[@darkcubix1181]

Lol

[@elizabethgouverneur2972]

BlackScape you are the best man

[@Coolhand118]

Lol

[@giraffe9676]

sPoIlEr AlErT fOr Far From Home: THEY ADDED THE DAILY BUGLE AS AN AFTER CREDITS SCENE.

[@emmarose2628]

I seen that movie before so i tapped it

[@awesomegaymer5786]

@@liuyuchenliuyuchen2486 were you honestly surprised? hes a member of the sinister six

[@danorose9746]

I know! I can’t believe it!

[@omarditz2833]

Yeah it was terrible reaveling his identity

[@jethrooguerrero2680]

@Tech Superior ya... I knew it when I watched the first trailer...

[@jeremyausdemore7263]

16:21 *clears throat* DO NOT VIOLATE THE QUARANTINE

[@JMR_2028]

Everyone: Or what?

[@brandon0118]

Corona: so you chosen death.

[@e.w.3711]

Vaccine:I AM HERE!!

[@kylearmitage9323]

MattPatt was actually pretty accurate to how J Jonah Jamison would be in no way home

[@CrabLegsWinston]

But HEY that's just...... the facts with j. Matpat Jameson

[@phrog2125]

GA1J1 N YOU ARE A FLIPPING GENIUS, but I think his actual name is J. Jonah MatPat

[@luxersmultiverse5379]

The greatest lie that marvel ever told was to convince the world that The children of Thanos could lose against cap black widow and falcon .

[@vicool217]

I have a problem with Matt’s argument. Spider-man brutally kicks people around and punches them and fights them brutally, but they get up and fight like nothing happened each time even if they are only 1 hit away from a K.O. So maybe the people in this world are just more resilient.

[@dajuanwhitaker1785]

I'm late to this but also those same thugs that spiderman is fighting "brutally" are throwing molotovs, have taser wands and shooting him. Hell even when the police say that they don't need his help it's evidently clear that they do otherwise they wouldn't take so damn long to stop those riots.

[@jshrhrgahhuehtnmppl]

That’s video game physics for ya lol

[@TheUnseenFuture]

Many comics and sources say spider man is holding back because if he wasn't, one punch can dislocate a jaw and just maim a man's face. But still, when web swinging is involved, that's more tricky.

[@ked49]

@@TheUnseenFutureclean off,

[@lcc2348]

honestly I'm convinced there's a knock off super serum that all of New York's criminals have just to survive a fight with Spider-Man

[@THEKXRMANETWORK]

My only issue with Jonah’s argument is him and Spider-Man exist in a universe where the Avengers and Black Panther and hell possibly other characters like Daredevil and the defenders or maybe even the X-Men etc. exist, and when they fight, they’re battles cause MASS damage. So why doesn’t he go for them too? It doesn’t make much sense to me(other than T’Challa because he’s a king he can do whatever the hell he wants as long as he is politically sound)

[@richiesahlin6409]

Avengers are government funded and Daredevil is a lawyer.

[@nayrbhaes8120]

Hes a local newspaper he need not tell his citizens what is happening down in Black Panther town. Unless they're are in new york too, idk.

[@anthonyfox9759]

I agree (except T'challa doing whatever he wants. He cant just go to a foreign country and start blowing things up, no matter his justification) I think the reason the Avengers are not included in his rants is to avoid taking the spotlight off Spiderman. It is a game that is entirely focused on him after all.

[@Zombie_Chow]

@@richiesahlin6409 Peter is just a scientist who wants to make the world a better place.

[@WizzyFilms]

I would imagine in the overall universe and as a journalist he would. However the message that Jonahs is telling is not included mostly because it's told from the side of the avengers. Captain America Civil War essentially covered just that. I guess since Jonahs is so tightly connected with Spiderman, that it may feel out of place and unnecessary in the rest of the MCU.

[@vippandabear2870]

Throughout the game I thought that the main issues with spiderman that JJJ has had a lot of truth to it. But when he says things like spiderman is flying through smog clouds to get high and that spiderman is eating pigeons is when he loses me

[@loading4354]

*"Think Spider-man Think, you're a Menace!"* -JJJ

[@fatimazz]

Amazing reference.

[@quentin1330]

@Abraham Lincoln Amazing pun

[@jockeyfield1954]

"What do you expect to have at the end of your crime fighting?!" "You... Jameson..."

[@nojob16]

One more like and 500

[@TheZestyJester09]

Peter: when will I get to save you? J.J.J: that's the best pet, you don't

[@odeliarose13]

Matpat is secretly JJJ lol

[@ishankumar4471]

Odelia Ray JJJ is secretly mat pat and is using the daily bugle to find it. That's why "matpat" is supporting him so much

[@odeliarose13]

Yeah that too

[@HandmadeGoose97]

It sounds like JJJ should be running for president at this point.

[@DrMadd]

Daniel Staples Well in the comics he did become the mayor of New York City.

[@DarkZerol]

He did, J. K. Simmons actually went on to potray the POTUS in the 2008 videogame Red Alert 3.

[@isaiahdiaz4252]

Don’t put that image in my head

[@patrickbeattie3496]

At one point in the comics, he did become mayor of New York. (He resigned due to the green goblin almost destroying New York and his spider slayers being hacked)

[@GintoGento]

He did in the coMics once i think

[@joel9104]

I cant believe how correct matpat was with that intro bit

[@comicsans9240]

The real menace Are the people that forget the hyphen in Spider-Man... Mat...

[@prakharmishra5187]

"Writing your memoirs? Don't forget the hyphen between Spider and Man."

[@chocolatebrownies4978]

Another one is that he put spiderman and spider man IN THE TITLE!!!!

[@zerosamus2641]

Comic Sans92 Stan Lee himself admitted that his mood gets ruined when someone forgets the hyphen lmao

[@emarythomp]

This theory was good except for the fact that you blamed Spider-Man for the arrest of Fisk. Fisk’s arrest was something made by police. The police were going to arrest him whether or not Spider-Man was present. He was only there to insure a more safe arrest for police since Fisk was responding by committing assault on police which would further incriminate him. A power vacuum would of occurred anyway. Spider-Man just made it faster. So to blame him isn’t entirely the full truth

[@worldoffiction4882]

The police were likely to fail, there were cops working for Fisk (remember how they got upstairs before Spider-Man?), they probably knew when the police were going to move and definitely had an escape plan for Fisk.

[@michaelkeha]

@@worldoffiction4882 yeah and all it would take is one over eager cop to blow Fisk's brians out and the power gap would have occured anyway it's a classic Indina Jones situation the net end result would always be the same

[@q345ify]

well oftentimes when police are about to take down a major crime figure they prepare for the power vacuum by increasing police presence in at risk areas, and if all else fails using undercover cops and informants in criminal organizations to put more stable/ less murderous leaders in power

[@Iambadboy88]

The whole theory fell apart. This theory was more about JJ being a good guy and not a bad guy, than it was about Spidey being a bad guy.

[@thellamaking5132]

The police would not have gotten Fisk if Spiderman wasn't there. For one, Fisk had cops on his payroll and a lot of weapons and 2, all the evidence would have been erased by the time the cops made it to the evidence room so they wouldn't be able to keep him locked up.

[@lordturtleduck]

This episode is: Just The Facts With J. Matpat Jameson

[@Robin_Is]

It is astounding how MatPat predicted the MCU's, J. Jonah Jameson.

[@pizzaking444]

You know how when he Webb’s criminals to the side a building when they fall of All I remember is “those Webb’s dissolve in an hour.

[@Cch_05]

Pretty sure the cops get em down before that

[@lbmemer6120]

in 2 hours

[@amsinniteYT]

@@lbmemer6120 #preston #Unspeakable #beckbrojack

[@hariodinio]

Here is a thing. If the webbing in the game supposedly doesnt last long, explain them there backpacks

[@cloroxbleachtm9638]

Was going to like then I saw wOw ThAnKs fOr tHE lIkeS gUyS

[@SomeAustrianGuy_]

I want that JJJ Juice.. Gosh, that sounds so fcking wrong...

[@heavypupper1219]

J-J-J JOOOOOOOOOOOOOOCE

[@harmonyburns8081]

Your not wrong... buuuuuuuuuut. Yeah I can't make that sound right 😂 lol.

[@Michael-wz2es]

269 likes no one else like ffs

[@lewisdavidson571]

Rhino wants to be normal again. Vulture has spinal cancer. Scorpion wants a clean slate. Li wants to kill the man who refused to help after causing him kill his parents. Ock wants to expose the man who's held himself above him for so long. The only one that really is a villain is Electro who wants to become pure energy. If Spider-Man got Rhino out of the suit and destroyed it, did everything he could to help out Vulture, go after the criminal organisations Scorpion is indebted to and expose Osborn for all his wrongdoings there would be no Sinister Six.

[@dannyscipio1777]

Except for Li, Otto,MAYBE Scorpion(won't get into it though) I mean seriously Norman may have been a prick, but that doesn't mean releasing 1.Violent Criminals onto the city and 2. Release a bioweapon onto the city. Just to get back at him, damn he even tried to help BOTH of them move on, but they refused and kept going, not Spideys fault,not Norman's completely, the people who reacted to their wrongdoings would kill millions to "correct" it. Stop reaching and find another reason to discredit Spiderman.

[@Eiko-tt9ng]

But still they might have there bad problems they should try and get help and not take out there anger on the innocent people in the city.

[@AmberMetallicScorpion]

what's wrong with wanting to become pure energy by doing so he'd be able to move faster than lightspeed as he doesn't have the drawback of being made of matter,sure he wouldn't be able to survive but still

[@LuisZap16]

Ikr he even says spider man kills if you look on the side of the building you can see that a web attaches the enemy's to the wall meaning they don't die

[@henry5172]

Li and Otto are not justified. That's what an extremist would say. Also scorpion is still a criminal regardless.

[@deaconpoole7577]

I love how Matpat was SPOT ON with modern JJ with this one. 😂

[@EckhartsLadder]

But... the police were the ones who initiated the attack on the Kingpin; Spider-man just helped. Also, the point of JJ is that he lies and distorts the truth. If everything JJ said was true, then that would be one thing - but his bias is such that half of what he says is blatantly untrue.

[@fredrick1043]

Your not wrong

[@Epixel14]

@@fredrick1043 you're*

[@olaf3323]

@@Epixel14 guess what mate......no one gives a f***

[@mrschizo2837]

@@olaf3323 Guess*

[@olaf3323]

@@mrschizo2837 Actually, I did that on purpose..........

[@Iltuoamar]

Hey mat i Have a theory What if THANOS Snapped 2 Times in a row?

[@melancholygirl7793]

Make this comment popular so matpat can do it!

[@anibalprime9050]

Depends on what he wanted to do. The Gauntlet isn't only a snaping device, it can do pretty much anything. If we're talking about the MCU then it's unknown if it would work again as only one snap (a alteration on a universal scale) caused the gauntlet to melt and burn. Thus we're uncertain of the effect that could cause a second snap (Maybe it works, Maybe it doesn't) But that's the MCU If it were to happen in the Comic Books this wouldn't be an issue. Had he snapped again, then he could have killed the other remaining Half of the universe or only 1/4 of life in the universe. (If he we're to snap again, what would he think about? Killing half of the remaining universe or just Killing half of the universe? His obviously aware that he killed half of the universe before so would only snap to kill 1/4 of the universe this time? Or the other 1/2 to finish the job?) It all comes down to Thanos himself, what exactly would be the purpose of the second snap to begin with?

[@DrChimp]

Then 1/4 of the universe would stand

[@Bakkcom]

@@melancholygirl7793 lok

[@aijzoo5226]

If he snapped 1000000 times he still wouldnt be able to erase the universe

[@Fire_Summoner]

The Game Theorist would like to thank its sponsor for today: *The Daily Bugle*

[@jbark678]

Sounds about right

[@Ian.Ian_BoBian]

I like to imagine that Spider-Man knows this- in Spider-Man miles morales when he gets the suit from Peter, it’s connected to the JJJ podcast and he says “the guys a masochist” but I like to believe it’s because he intended on Miles listening to JJJ and realizing that he DOES push you to be better and is a decent guy under the surface

[@fuzzyelite4453]

Yes but MatPat, the main theme of this game is consequences; when spiderman doesn't pay his bills he gets evicted or when he doesn't let mary jane go investigate they break up. However, all of the goals spiderman does is to prevent future problems or to not let it get out of hand; if he doesn't do anything it is not ethical. And that is good story telling

[@mikee143]

He never said that the story or theme was bad, mat was looking at spiderman from the big picture

[@NoahDaArk]

Fuzzy Elite I think MatPat is freaking out about how Well story in games has come so he’s looking for anything and EVERYTHING to make a video. He’s gone from well respected to clickbait

[@fuzzyelite4453]

@@mikee143 What do you mean he talked about spiderman killing people and literally being a villain did you even watch the video?

[@tf9956]

But if you really think about it, he did cause the problems. Intentionally or not.

[@ninjtim1133]

Block Star I agree. I still like his videos, but it’s just nit picking at this point. Yeah the criminals look like they are killed, but in a realistic fashion they can be dead. But this is a game. And the developers said that Spidey doesn’t kill. So if they say that, then the villains aren’t dead. Everything doesn’t have to be realistic in a game.

[@mr.mcnerdo]

Not to mention that he has actually saved Peter and others on occasion. For example, Rhino had stormed the Daily Bugle (Spectacular Spider-Man) and demanded that he give him Peter Parker. Instead of turn him over, like many viewers probably expected, he simply claimed Parker hadn’t been there for a while (Peter was in the stairwell looking out the door) and secretly motioned for Peter to scram. If that isn’t a rabbit in a rattlesnake’s body, I don’t know what is.

[@mr.mcnerdo]

And now I rewatched Raimi’s series and JJJ did it there as well. Oops.

[@drishalballaney]

same thing when green goblin attacks jjj in spiderman movie

[@connor.k2012]

Me: Send pic Her: what you wanna see? 😉😜 Me: Spider-man Her: What?? Me: *bangs fist on table in anger*

[@jollyjelly2880]

Connor. K I SAID SPIDER-MAN GODDAMMIT

[@sammypines1837]

SPIDERMAN. ARE YOU DEAF WOMAN. I WANT SPIDERMAN

[@Lowend115]

BRING ME SPIDERMAN

[@imayeti.4674]

Connor. K her:umm I SAID SpIDErMAN

[@130_]

I NEED SPIDER MAN!!!

[@Fernando-ek8jp]

One of the biggest problems with the Kingpin argument is that, well, you know: the police was the one doing the raid. Spider-Man helped, but without him you'd have: dozens of dead cops and a fugitive Kingpin with a still diminished enough presence

[@bibigamer502]

Apparently it was Spider-Man’s fault that the police were on their way to arrest Fisk

[@venusstar2963]

@@bibigamer502 Spiderman brought them the evidence needed to convict Fisk for his crimes, and assisted in his arrest. This does not change the fact that the Police were already seeking out the information needed to bring Fisk to justice. The power vaccum would have happened sooner or later, Spiderman's intervention merely sped up the process.

[@bibigamer502]

@@venusstar2963 and did Spider-man or the police know what was going to happen after that?

[@venusstar2963]

@@bibigamer502 Not specifically the rise of power of Li and the demons, but as far as predicting a potential gang war, I would say that yes, they anticipated it.

[@bibigamer502]

@@venusstar2963 and they were already working on making the city safer pior to Li and the demons attacking were they not

[@emperormilk_]

Are we gonna talk about the fact that matpat predicted J Jonah Jamesion in Far From Home

[@thedude8457]

He is a psychic

[@parsnipguy2986]

Uncanny

[@shilohelgin2408]

I’m starting to think that Matt Pat is the J Jonah Jameson of real life.

[@arbiduzzamansyed4254]

I don’t get it

[@SunshineRey]

@@arbiduzzamansyed4254 to many people Matthew sounds crazy, or like he’s just rambling trying to make it sound like he’s actually saying a coherent story, but if you take it from his prospective, it sound less like it’s crazy and more like it’s true. That’s basically what Matthew is trying to say in this theory, only about J Jonah and not himself.

[@markmagician2471]

Or his son

[@memecliparchives2254]

@@SunshineRey But unlike Jameson sometimes, Mat doesn't go out of his way to be pretentious about it. He's just like: "I'm just saying, BUT HEY ITS JUST A THEORY".

[@slishslash9202]

r/WHOOSH

[@iDidItForClout]

**Stan Lee would like to know your location**

[@TeaKiwi]

Ok we must be everywhere so he will never die

[@bingbongboi6194]

1000 subs with 0 videos the heck does he want now

[@kamoriejones]

You Jynxed us all!

[@notmariolevi2863]

that is to say that if stan lee is alive anymore.

[@foxyandfriends8931]

@@notmariolevi2863 this 4 months ago so yea :p dont talk

[@lof1l769]

the fact that his skit is accurate with how it happened in no way home cracks me up

[@chefboyardee2072]

Did J. Jonah Jameson make this video?

[@maxzapsgamingzepzeap2337]

I actually once heard a theory that 1 of the reasons Triple J is always hammering it in that Spider-Man is a menace is because he wants Spider-Man to protect people. Tell me, what makes certain people, or maybe even you, more likely to help someone? Is it the constant praise that helping someone might bring, or someone else criticizing you and saying you never help? It's usually the latter, because when praised, you feel like you're in a position of power, and like PS4 Jonah says, 'Power corrupts', but when ridiculed certain people will go out of their way to disprove that criticism, which is what Jonah is counting on. In plenty of the comics, Spider-Man gets so fed up with Jonah, he goes out of his way to save people, which actually helped Jonah save his son plenty of times. If Jonah had never given Spider-Man those criticisms, he would've never gone out of his way to disprove him, and Jonah's son would've died by then. It's why Jonah tells people in 1 of his podcasts to dial it back on praise when he finally gives Spider-Man a compliment, he doesn't want it to go to Spider-Man's head, he even says so in that same podcast. Jonah clearly hates Spider-Man because of what masked people did to him in the past, all the laws that Spider-Man has broken, the fact that no one knows who he is, and the fact that consequences never come his way, but the reason he never rants about other mysterious masked heroes is because Spider-Man will actually help stop smaller crimes, and he wants to make sure Spider-Man will go out of his way to stop those crimes. At least that's what I'd like to believe, (Hes also kind of a conspiracy theorist in PS4 but I mean who wouldn't be in a place like Marvel New York?))

[@lordsolaire6202]

Really good theory!

[@sarbjitkaur3595]

Nice theory also makes sense

[@eleyas9266]

Woah this theory is kinda good

[@luisalbertoarenasaraya4579]

Nerd Sync explained that he wanted SpiderMan to actually consider his actions.

[@Sim-Ona]

I mean sure, what you say is true... but keep criticising someone when they're trying to do well and never give them recognition for what they do is not exactly pleasant.. (I'm not talking about this case specifically, I mean in general). Imagine a good student whos quite good at school, but the teacher wants him to really shine and use all his potential so he keeps holding back on him and saying he didnt do good enough. Maybe in the beginning the boy would then try and do better, trying to impress the teacher and prove to him that he's good. Again the teacher criticises him. The student tries again. No good. No matter what he does, he never seems to be recognised by the teacher for his merits. At which point the boy's like "You know what? F it. I am trying my best and it serves no good. Why would I even try so hard and study so much if I'm getting criticised either way?" right? I feel there should be a balance between trying to push someone to do their best and straight up discouraging them due to never being appreciated.

[@namecannotbeblank6858]

Writing your title? Don't forget the hyphen between spider and man

[@florchavez795]

You played the game didn't you? Btw he says that when he sees Willie.

[@macoy3943]

#RespectTheHyphen

[@dendrolucario53]

Love The Refrance

[@smittywerbenjagermanjensen9281]

Ugh dude after playing the game I still say that to people I was going to say that

[@kushtakathenomad8385]

SPIDER HYPHEN MAN! (props to those that get it)

[@qwerple2749]

The intro aged really well

[@TheMightyPuncake]

MatPat, you completely changed the way I see J.J.

[@12524isreal]

Alright, it's confirmed. J. Jonah Jameson funds MatPat's channels.

[@raptorwolfgaming4960]

Ange yup

[@foodlemon2288]

Or matpat is J. Jonah Jameson

[@testthelegend1468]

No, Mattpat funds J Jonah Jameson

[@pigglesgoomshby7249]

Will MatPat become the NEW Scorpion?

[@ninemind5351]

Yep

[@Nickle_King]

I love JJJ. Done right, he’s as much a hero as the rest of the Marvel lineup. Yes he’s rough. Yes he’s blunt. Yes he can be wrong. Funny thing about those qualities? Tony Stark’s the same way. Same with Dr.Strange. Same with sooo many more heroes in the Marvel Universe. J’s the only one fighting on the civilian’s side though. He’s not saving the world. He’s making sure New York is still a safe place to live. After all. What’s the point of saving the world if it’s not a place to live?

[@alexagarcia2275]

I just dont like the way he goes about doing it im going to talk about the comics for a bit so peter Parker is an orphan who's uncle which was hid father figure got killed by a thief but to him its his fault his aunt is too old to work and the kids in his town make fun of him so while struggling with the guilt of his uncle and trying to find ways to pay for bills and his aunts medicine while keeping up good grades and taking all the bs from his classmates he become spider man and through it all he tries his best to protect the citizens like he couldn't with his father let me also remind you he is still in highschool then as if that werent enough he risks his life for others everyday and has a crazy lunatic reporter go after him for envy and money which jjj confirmed himself in the comics and ultimately jjj getd what he wants everyone is scared of spider-man and peter parker doesn't know why he even countines being a hero so now all the city hates him his family is trash and freakin betty ruins most of his moments so i just think peter deserves better he is actually i really dark guy driven to the edge many times and jjj doesnt help

[@Yeeeeeeeehawcowboy]

his depiction of modern JJJ ended up being so darn accurate lol

[@hfnr_]

spider man spider man does what ever a spider can everythings going dark *i dont feel good Mr. Stark* oh my *he'ss a pile of dust*

[@teamcybr8375]

oh no There goes the spider man.

[@Syfre]

Too soon

[@blenderowl6495]

I dont feel good Avia*

[@cisnt9244]

NO, NO

[@Masonhill76]

Syfre it’s always too soon

[@MrNotThatFamous]

Jameson got to you? You working with the daily bugle!?

[@ProAceGamer]

Sub to me

[@joshandwesseries2615]

No

[@ProAceGamer]

...

[@nobledonkey17]

To be fair Spider-Man just showed up to try and protect the cops who fisk's men were actually already attacking the cops who was trying to arrest Fisk at the start of the game.. soo idk if we can blame Spider-Man for that little part

[@the_middle_twix488]

Wow it’s almost scary how well MatPat nailed what Jameson would be in the MCU 👏👏

[@oliverkirkland420]

Spoodermon best villain 11/10

[@apeanutonhawaii9722]

How's your relationship with France been?

[@Pritcle]

Sp0ilerboiii**

[@nick_lole]

spoods

[@inactive2286]

Oliver Kirkland *looks at your pfp then your username then A Peanut On Hawaii’s reply...* oh

[@Scrimitch]

So is Allen your boyfriend yet

[@pterodactyl383]

He literally tells you how to break into a house

[@youwantsomenut2310]

Hehe

[@brandon35542]

I'll try it

[@chillsis1650]

Thx spidey I’ll try iy

[@jocab4154]

“Canonically the webbing only lasts an hour” Spider-man’s backpacks from 8 years ago:

[@Churrs]

It’s different webbing probably

[@spideyboy-wb6wi]

He actually did change his webbing just so he wouldn’t leave so many webs all over new york

[@ericdillingham6858]

Sorry, spider-man has a webbing backpack?

[@Draco.Invictus]

@@ericdillingham6858 When Pete would switch to Spidey, he would always stow his backpack somewhere safe so he could go back for it later...well you can collect all the backpacks around the city from his 8 years of being Spidey.

[@Seabassthebass1101]

This intro looking back is VERY CLOSE scary close to the NWH scene

[@hamzabare6365]

Who loves all the diffrent openings for all his video.

[@gilanorodrigues7049]

Me too

[@Friendly_Neighborhood_Edgelord]

Not me TBH

[@thanos9189]

Same

[@gleeber]

There ok but a little corny tbh not to be rude though

[@haydeneisenstein1092]

Me

[@niamhmorrissey2187]

I wouldn't say Wilson Fisk being arrested is directly his fault. The Police right from the get-go wanted to arrest him & Yuri let Spiderman help. He basically just accomplished what the Police were trying to do. And as for Otto, I'd say Norman was who made him a Villain, not Peter. Half the reason he started his own industries was to rival Oscorp, he starts to descend when *Norman* cuts his funding. Whenever his experiments fail he starts cursing *Norman* & the final nail in the coffin is when he sees *Norman* on TV claiming glory. The entire reason he *is* Dr Octopus is because he hates *Norman* and wants to see him exposed as the man he truly is, Peter didn't really do much aside from witnessing it all happen.

[@lokradan2677]

My god finally someone who understands. Thank you for restoring my faith in this comment section.

[@BIGstonks]

but then again there were corrupt policemen there anyways to stop the others from actually getting to fisk. also remember the turrets that would kill any normal person aka a policeman

[@echom2]

Good point

[@zerocrashmurilo]

Maybe I can understand doc ock, even with his funds pulled he still possibly could’ve made the arms without Peter But it’s impossible to say if the police would be able to succeed on arresting the kingpin, he had failsafes that only get stopped because spider man is there

[@astro.mp3348]

16:15, spiderman ps4 literally predicted the future for the 2020 quarentine

[@ilovefidel8532]

astro.mp3 no, no they didn’t just bc they say the word quarantine doesn’t mean they predicted u like begger

[@enternallis9999]

@@ilovefidel8532 r/wooooosh

[@callum5808]

Burnt Chicken Nuggets just a joke dude, chill, you have a bad day?

[@danielochoa9343]

Burnt Chicken Nuggets r/woooosh and also he didn’t ask for likes

[@legowilley2181]

@@ilovefidel8532 play the game

[@anythingman101]

I love how he basically predicted The Daily Bugle scene in no way home🤣

[@renaissancenerd3801]

MatPat: I wonder what J Jonah Jameson would be like today Jon Watts: *laughs in Far From Home*

[@Cathrinite]

Trans rights? Cringe

[@renaissancenerd3801]

@@Cathrinite It's not a trans rights thing, it's an "I am trans" thing

[@Sir_GrimReaper]

@@Cathrinite no u

[@thomasleongeorgerobertglad7560]

@@Cathrinite you trying to shame people for being who they are? THATS cringe

[@Legend10927]

uh oh no one talking about the comment cause some fucktard ruined it

[@fanflashable]

While I agree with a lot of points made here, something that bugs me was the "Spiderman causes more problems" section. While yes, the events of the game seem to spiral out of control, how was Peter supposed to know what would happen after arresting Kingpin? (who was also resisting arrest by the way since at the start we knew the police had a warrant for his arrest) He had no idea who the Demons were. Octavius was his mentor and hero but it was still Octavius decision to use the neural interface. Blaming all of that on Spiderman is basically saying that he is responsible for the actions of the villains. It was Li's choice to take revenge on Osborne, it was Octavius's choice to release the Devil's Breathe and release the inmates at the RAFT. So while his actions do seem to spiral most of the time, it isn't intentional and he does his damndest to fix it, which is basically what we do all the time, just on a smaller, less world ending scale.

[@flaminG-Ghost]

That's the point, he did NOT know that Kingpin's arrest would be more detrimental to NY. If he had done proper research about organised crime or had police training, he would know why Kingpin should not have been arrested, a reason why many times in real-world police deliberately do not arrest the head of the crime family (even with warrants) but only try to control it. Crime is more complicated. It's not black and white, it is grey. Something I only understand now because I am a lawyer by profession who has studied cases of actual crimes. Peter is smart and capable of researching organised crime, and he should have the foresight of the consequences of displacing a major crime lord and creating a vacuum. If you say, "he couldn't have known," then my friend, that's why he shouldn't meddle with something he is ignorant about just for righteousness bcz IRL things are never Black and White.

[@TKilgore09]

@@flaminG-Ghost The New York police department already had a warrant for Fisk's arrest. What was Peter supposed to do? Convince them to not arrest Kingpin? He literally wakes up at the start of the game because of the police dispatch announcing their attempt to arrest Fisk.

[@churchy9863]

@@flaminG-Ghost but even if he did his research he would still be doing the same thing, cause even the police didn't know about the demons, devils breath, the event of Otto, and the raft breakout. It's pretty basic info that if spiderman wasn't there, not much would change.

[@bibigamer502]

@@flaminG-Ghost so the police magically knew what was as going to happen in the game long before it even happened in the game and the player becomes aware of any of it?

[@kimpayne3435]

11:05 Do u have these problems on marz No Do u have Spooderman on marz No COINCIDENCE I THINK NOT

[@JoeMama-bg1im]

The intro aged extremely well 😂

[@Crisxyz15]

Meanwhile iron man: disintegrating everyone with its laser beam

[@elitegaming3056]

Those aren't lAsEr BeAmS...not even close.

[@thunder45728]

@@elitegaming3056 they are close to laser beams

[@ahmadsaed51]

@@thunder45728 they aren’t fatal all the time he hits people with them a lot and they don’t die ( eg: falcon in civil war after war machine got hit )

[@waltersanford1461]

Lazer BEAN

[@ericturner6286]

It's a repulsor burst. Not a laser.

[@killerwest9602]

15:03 when you can't find pictures of sable international so you use rainbow six siege operators

[@BenA.]

When I saw the title I was like: "J. Jonah Jameson must be partnering up with you guys to share his opinions"

[@Deitiess]

11:36 is the most cursed thing I’ve ever seen

[@e.w.3711]

I've seen worse

[@vgamer4993]

I mean, Doc Ock and Mr. Negative aren't a direct result of Spider-Man's actions. It's made pretty clear that their crusades for revenge are the direct results of Norman and his obsession with finding Harry a cure. Norman is the real cause of every major problem in the game.

[@blo0dysmiles297]

Ya but because of spiderman he was able to get negative his time to shine and Doc his arms (which doc himself said he couldn't have done it without Peter as Peter saved the project so many times) as well as cuased norman tonshut down the project cuase all the warnings they gave him Peter clearly seen being the reason for most of them cuase he wasnt there in turn yes doc hated norman but he didnt want to kill and stop him until norman shut his project down a result of what Peter did so again yes spiderman cuased everything that happens in the game. I love spiderman but most people can see the super hero is almost 90% the reason a super villain becomes one

[@vgamer4993]

BLO0DY SMILES Peter got Otto's project shut down? Um, no. Otto did that by going ahead with the trial run and botching it on his own. And even then it's practically spelled out that Norman was just looking for an excuse to shut everything down, because he's kind of a dick. Even then the developments in the arms that caused Otto to go nuts were the things that Otto himself added, against Peter's warnings I might add. Even the Demons taking over wasn't really Peter's fault, since the police were already moving in on Fisk before he got there. All Peter really did was reduce casualties and make sure Fisk didn't erase his hard drives. Ultimately, Peter doesn't shoulder much (if any) blame for the big events in the story.

[@KP-gu6fc]

Vgamer 499 it’s otto’s fault that he went ahead with the project ignoring the mental stability loss

[@ovobebo]

BLO0DY SMILES well it’s spideys job to stop criminals! He’s not gonna try and not stop him...because then he’s gonna be the villain and cause EVEN MORE problems

[@nikinonsen3642]

Vgamer 499 true that

[@DankMatter]

Looks like it's not pizza time :(

[@NomadicYT_]

inb4 Dank Matter gets a ton of likes.

[@ElaineJuarez]

Oof

[@_TT_]

Hello there

[@frogfish1250]

Screwball doesn't kidnap anyone, that was a goof, it turns out at the end it was her in that picture

[@josephdelasalle4511]

Frogfish 12 glad someone pointed that out

[@ronanswart6100]

So we're going to forget the part about the bombs? XD

[@emerald8274]

spoilers

[@dman98643]

All that with screwball most likely would have anywhere because she want an need attention and Spider-man would have made her more popular

[@upg5147]

Blackened Emerald Oh yes, that totally ruined the whole game for you right? It didn't even ruin a plot point so calm down

[@prestonlogan3808]

Another thing jj is right about is the rhino. One of his podcasts has him say that someone at the prison has told him rhino is in a more secure cell, to which jj asks " if there was a more secure cell why wasn't he in it"

[@HelDeo]

Gamora:All this time i knew him he only had one goal J.Jonah: I WANT SPIDER MAN!!!!!

[@uniqueemerald1894]

J.Jonah beats thanos confirmed

[@Malthizar]

What is Gamora?

[@pakiman_]

@DedHorse I'll do *YOU* one better: *why is star-lord?*

[@joeybutbaldy]

@@pakiman_ ILL DO *YOU* ONE BETTER WHEN IS DRAX?

[@comicyoshidude3181]

@@joeybutbaldy i'll do you ONE better what is thanos?

[@toolu]

Well your guess on what JJJ is gonna look like was pretty accurate

[@farklegriffen2624]

The thumbnail seems like an Austin video... 🤔

[@lydiadiangelo2588]

You'll be able to tell by the color of the words Austin's videos have teal colored words

[@gilbertogonzalez2012]

Rose you beat me

[@gilbertogonzalez2012]

@@lydiadiangelo2588 ya yeet

[@mentalpopcorn2304]

It’s clearly a light blue and not teal. Teal is like a shade of green

[@lydiadiangelo2588]

@@mentalpopcorn2304 well fine is turquoise then but teal or turquoise is what happens when you mix blue and green.

[@ther.w.d.channel1501]

0:31 he sorta got that right😂

[@thunderstarchampion]

I have a question: So, one of Jamisons biggest points he makes is that Spider-man is the cause of these villains, but isn't that a fallacy? I mean, sure, Peter inadvertently led Doc Ock to be created, but isn't it still likely that with Otto's impatience and instability, he would have become a villain anyway? Lack of Supers doesn't really mean lack of villains. (Spoilers) After all, wouldn't Lee have still taken over if and when Fisk was arrested? The police don't just stop doing their job putting criminals away just because the city is 'safer' or more stable. Mats own theory proved that with Pablo's death. So, are JJJ and MatPat right? Is Spider-man a villain? No, at least not the way it's traditionally used. He may be breaking the law, but there's no way to really prove that without him, the city would be better or worse.

[@maxstone3779]

Or the police didn't arrest Fisk on purpose in order to prevent a vacuum from forming.

[@thunderstarchampion]

@@maxstone3779 That's part of my point, the police wouldn't do that. They, in fact, did arrest him regardless of Spider-man. He just made it easier and with less casualties.

[@willemoberholzer2353]

thunderstarchampion Finally someone that actually understands!! I mean I’m from a country were you cannot walk a block away from your home without getting muged ,raped ,human trafficked ect. We have gangs running the streets empowered by fearful shopkeepers. Crooked cops, criminal political figures. Hell ,my school brought in an ex drug dealer last year, because the stated:”He found God”. That doesn’t make him a role model. And guess what. We don’t have a super hero! It does not start with a Hero. It ends with Hero.

[@willemoberholzer2353]

I’m Happily Depressed. I live in South Africa. I would be worried if This didn’t happen every hour or so. Granted this is the extreme. There are good places. You just have to know were to go and witch road is less likely to get you smashed in the head with a brick.

[@dillonf1905]

Well the police would either be unable to arrest him due to him excellently covering his tracks, or the dirty cops on his pay roll would look the other way.

[@kasparkasparov8967]

In a game dlc J. Jonah. Janeson literally got a heart attack when he found out that there was 2 spider mans

[@kartikayrai5774]

i think its spider men

[@supercoolcadenoasis8883]

Now YOU just sound like Jameson😂😂👺

[@spidergod0618]

Ya come on game theory no you just sound like him😣😡😡

[@Saizzzzz]

you know what's criminal? you not putting that hyphen in between spider and man