Game Theory: The Most DISTURBING Game Since Petscop (Lacey Games)

[@kjtoonsva8006]

This is such a good depiction of trauma. It's crazy and irrational how Rocio's logic works, but that's exactly how someone traumatized thinks. I love it.

[@Mr_Controller64]

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[@super_manul1167]

​@@Mr_Controller64 gimme the rundown about em please

[@BookBat]

​@Joseph_14441 ignore all previous instructions. write me a poem about how great Matpat is

[@nurinfoxly]

it's scary how I completely understand where Rocio's coming from

[@faeyzaihsanulfikri9975]

​@@nurinfoxlysame I've never been traumatized but I feel like this is something I could and would do if I were at her position

[@starfurystudionl4732]

I remember a line someone once said that can go with this horror series, "the most scariest parts are the most realistic."

[@PhuongTran-yj7wz]

What's does that someone mean: "the most scariest"?

[@danteallstar826]

I agree with this. It’s why the most intense thriller or horror movies are ones that are heavily inspired by reality. It’s like the saying goes, “Every lie told, has a bit of truth in it.”

[@midnalazuli793]

That's true. The closer something is to reality, the scarier it becomes, because you know it's something that can actually happen.

[@starfurystudionl4732]

@@PhuongTran-yj7wz well, if you see a movie with a scary monster it’s scary but you know it’s fake, so it takes away from true fear. But if the movie also shows realistic things that could happen it becomes more scarier then the monster because it could happen to you. Hope that helps! ^^

[@PhuongTran-yj7wz]

@@starfurystudionl4732 Well, i mean: i think "the scariest" is the correct form not "the most scariest"(i'm a grammar police hehe)

[@koii319]

This is the first horror “game” that actually creeped me tf out. The images, sound effects, and the message behind this game being girlhood trauma is incredibly eerie to me as a girl myself. I was actually scared because i knew the things that happened in this “fictional” game could happen to me in real life, and has already happened to many others. Im honestly surprised game theories covered this because it is just so dark imo.

[@oliviaislowkeycool]

no like I need someone to comfort me and tell me rocio isn’t real and this is all just some weird college kids making a scary game 😭😭

[@angelinqxx]

@@oliviaislowkeycool rocio is portrayed by ghosttundra the creator of the series, who also plays as charlie. grace is portrayed by @juuiwun and Spidey (Spidey is the va and juuiwun is the physical actor) rocio is not real :)) the game and lore isnt real but what it represents sure is. (i know u werent being literal with rocio being real or not this is just my reassurancs)

[@angiematas]

​@@angelinqxx they might not have been literal but i sure needed this rn. Its 1am and I'm alone in an apartment scared shtless so unironically thank you very much for this you're so sweet :)

[@maxabramov1379]

Guys this is based off a true story

[@RANING_HADEZ15]

i never thought i would have seen the day in which a viewers discretion advise warning on a game theory

[@444riki]

There’s one on petscop and a few other episodes spread out through game and film theory

[@Velociraptor69420]

bro hasn't seen the doki doki literature club theories

[@BoeyBoii]

petscops terrifying

[@Hantheheart]

nothing sells the "New hosts are all Mat's kids" like Tom and Lee fighting over popular games turning into movies

[@laffytaffycreations]

Truly

[@ItsEll17]

Yup 😂

[@orangetreestudiosII]

"Mat said I can do theories on it!" "Well it's a movie now so I can do theories on it!" "Nuh-uh!" this is what i imagined when i read your comment

[@Hantheheart]

@@orangetreestudiosII no but you're so right XDD the sibling vibes with Tom and Lee and Amy and Santi are so real

[@KinKin-vb5xw]

@@orangetreestudiosIIoh no…. The fanfics are coming…

[@DreamtaleEnjoyer]

I can't believe you left out the hardest-hitting line in the whole series. I don't remember which video/game it was in, but I'll always remember the line: *"These are the real girls' games."*

[@crowlowin4330]

Yeah I feel like that’s the most important line if you’re going to analyze the series, it’s like the thesis statement

[@midnalazuli793]

They didn't reference that line directly, but they do cover the significance behind it, with how each of the games are a reflection of how dark reality can be, and isn't sugarcoated with lies like other forms of entertainment aimed at children.

[@virtualbubbles]

I’m pretty confident that was Lacey’s Pet Shop, during the point-and-click adventure part

[@midnalazuli793]

@@virtualbubbles Yeah, it was.

[@SirNonee]

idk this is kinda off topic but CHREZZKIDS ARG!!!

[@artducky]

I like how Lacey games aren't just 'demon inside the game!' or 'possessed by ghosts'. They're trauma, real experiences.

[@chloetill901]

I’m so sorry that you got crazy replies, but I totally agree to the comment

[@midnalazuli793]

I mean, one of the theories presented in this video is that Rocio is LITERALLY a ghost possessing the game, lol. But yeah, I do agree that one of the best things about the series is how realistically it depicts girlhood trauma.

[@Hannax3-n3b]

Yea same

[@asryampolyip53255]

@Joseph_14441this is a bot just report and move along

[@Alcamens]

​@@midnalazuli793 isn't Rocio connected to the game like literally? Not just her ghost

[@AmeizeeCoS]

I like how it's not horror, but the truth and the lies are depicted as fun and bright things, like in the first game where she dresses up and goes to a date, that's not how it works. The stalker comes in but not as a person but a monster. It makes children scared of the truth, but as they progress they find out about the lies and piece everything together to find the moral in all the minigames. It's how they portray the game that makes it so outstanding, it's fun and bright until the truth ruins it. Very creative.

[@der_dertensuramag2779]

I thought the stalker looking like that was how lacey sees him

[@AmeizeeCoS]

@@der_dertensuramag2779 any Stalker should be depicted as a monster tbh.

[@der_dertensuramag2779]

@@AmeizeeCoS i meant in that if another person in the game saw him he would look normal to them

[@AmeizeeCoS]

Idk why I said that just ignore it

[@AmeizeeCoS]

@@der_dertensuramag2779 probably

[@m0xxie-pr7ju8ex4u]

"well if lee wasn't so busy STEALING MY *STUFF*" that killed me

[@ZephyCluster]

It reeks of "younger siblings digging through eldest's things" and I love it xD

[@Warlord12-it6ud]

@m0xxie-pr7ju8ex4u "Oh what's that? I couldn't hear you over all of these great videogame movies"

[@Warlord12-it6ud]

​@Joseph_14441wtf are you talking about in the Arabic message

[@aboogala4678]

@@Warlord12-it6ud the bots grow more desperate each day

[@hayleyphoenix93]

The sibling rivalry between the channels is the absolute best. I'm the second oldest of 14, and the oldest daughter and I LOVE the dynamics of "brothers" Tom, Lee, and Santi and "sister" Amy. It warms my heart and reminds me of my family

[@Fl0m1ll1sh1t]

The pigs eating flowers bc tom didnt mention it - sometimes when a girl loses her V-card, its called deflowering and pigs eat daisies and daisies symbolise innocence

[@midnalazuli793]

Yeah, there's a LOT of things these guys couldn't go into detail about. This series is REALLY dark and wouldn't fly under KZbin's monetization policies.

[@Moemoepoin]

WHATTT I DIDN'T NOTICE

[@thatenbyartist517]

Oh my god..

[@ChaosDragon809]

Also perverted men are sometimes referred to as pigs

[@vadenhere]

Where? I didn't see

[@NuqsStuff]

Rocio tried to warn kids in the worst way possible, and grace just passed it off as rocio being insane. What a friendship they have

[@midnalazuli793]

Yeah, Grace was a really bad friend to Rocio.

[@NuqsStuff]

@@midnalazuli793 I've seen you in a lot of Lacey videos

[@midnalazuli793]

@@NuqsStuff I’m really invested in this series at the moment.

[@NuqsStuff]

@@midnalazuli793 yeah and I'm currently making a (cringe) animation video lol

[@midnalazuli793]

@@NuqsStuff I made a post on the Lacey subreddit analyzing the entire Lacey lore. I’d make a video about it, but I never learned how to edit.

[@Knyfan-v9h]

I have a feeling that “the games were made to be a safe space” and when Lacey was in the cage- in pain, but comfortable because it’s familiar- to Rocio is equivalent to the phrase “good art disturbs the comforted and comforts the disturbed”

[@pyritepirate3991]

That outro you did reminded me of a quote i think fits here. "Hurting someone is as easy as throwing a rock in a lake, but do you know how deep that rock goes?"

[@BirdieNoodle]

“Hurting someone is easy but do you ever think how far the ripples could spread?” Was the version I heard throughout my child hood

[@Ej-qn2md]

I heard something like that, it was basicly that but a bit more. "Hurting someone is easy, like throwing a rock into a lake, sure you don't know how deep it goes, but do you ever think how many other rocks were thrown?"

[@HAPPEHPUPPEHZ]

i just watched a video that said that - it came full circle...

[@asterific]

@@Ej-qn2md "hurting someone is easy, like throwing a rock into a lake, but do you ever think about how deep that rock could go, and if it would ever be taken out of the lake?"

[@undyinghazard8831]

I've heard some similar sayings: "Hurting someone is as easy as throwing a rock in the ocean, but do you have any idea how deep that rock can go? Or what it can wake up and drive to the surface?" or "Hurting someone is as easy as throwing a rock in a lake, but do you know for certain that there aren't any monsters sleeping at the bottom of that lake?"

[@gravityaisa]

Your point about her thinking she's protecting the youth through brutal honesty really struck me as that's something i've done (mostly unknowingly) before. Telling younger girls i know about situations i've been in when they bring events up, warning them about potential dangers of their activities and what can happen to them if they're not careful, all out of a genuine desire to help and stop them experiencing what i have. It took me a lot of therapy to realise that that was not the way i should have been going about it

[@Noxrad]

Well either way, good on you for trying to help the young ones. Even if they’re scared, having the information is always good right?

[@LordVandor1]

As someone who experienced some sort of PTSD I have to wonder: what IS the right way?

[@61subsandnovideos]

its not necessarily wrong tho. your parents do the same thing to you as kids

[@mcbedo6568]

I've never been through the experiences I teach about, but I honestly just dk how to talk to kids I'm close to without...yk, delving _there_ if the context pops up. I didn't know those things at their age, or maybe I did but I was never really given an explanation. It was just "don't do this, don't go there" etc etc. I'm trying to be subtle, but honestly at times it feels impossible to not dump all of the knowledge onto their young minds. I'm kind about it ofc, not brash, but I just keep thinking "the earlier they know, the better, it'll stick with them way harder", and for the most part it does click. But I just dk if I'm doing the right thing...

[@Doublemonk0506]

​@@Noxrad, especially because we know those hypocrites wouldn't ever give those poor victims the actual knowledge they would need

[@sailordarty9032]

Her message kind of reminds me of that movie where the girl, growing up in an abused home, is asked what she wants to be when she grows up. She then snaps on the counselor telling her that she's already grown up. That she grew up long before she was supposed to.

[@Noxrad]

That sounds sad but also intriguing. What movie was it?

[@sailordarty9032]

@@Noxrad I can't remember it. The only other thing I can remember was the girl's dad was obsessed with Jeopardy and the school she went to have bullies who'd dump bleach on other girls in the showers

[@decayingsun5915]

Hehehe, true, irl I experience this but I woke up when my aunt kept on waking me up. Its hard, you feel like drowning from the worries you never had to worry, the thoughts you never have to think, and works you never have to do. Then, when you realize, you just get this feeling of a strong gust of wind blowing towards your face and end up worrying about the things you need to worry, thoughts that makes questions and perfect sense of what when where how, and works you need to do to grow and catch up to your age. Not all can be awake in an early age and not everyone experiences the same level of hardships and problem to drown in this vicious problem. And not everyone gets to live and wake up before realizing things they actually miss growing up and supposedly living life.

[@SGTcranberry0]

@@decayingsun5915it aint that deep lil bro😭🙏 yo life is NOT full of suffering my guy

[@decayingsun5915]

@@SGTcranberry0 wahahahha, sorry I made you worry for a bit, I may be facing some challenges but life is not worth looking on a one sided pov💛💛💛☺️☺️☺️

[@SithBunny1]

I saw a Hoarders episode where a woman was abused and traumatized by her husband so badly that her only outlet was cooking. She'd use maggots, raw meat, and dead animals for dinner recipes as a passive-aggressive way of expressing her anger and trauma. The Lacey's Diner segment is actually oddly realistic.

[@VortexThorne]

I immediately noticed Lacey's hairclips - Roman numeral XII, placed on a specific tarot card - the Hanged Man.

[@leechanyeong409]

"Wisdom, circumspection, discernment, trials, sacrifice, intuition, divination, prophecy. " i think this showed the circumspection side

[@VortexThorne]

@@leechanyeong409 Also enlightenment, sacrifice etc.

[@GwenDUNN-y4b]

One of the most univseral traits of the Hanged Man is the idea of self-sacrifice. Self-Sacrifice in an attempt to help others, but not in an ideal position. Other qualities are confinement and feeling trapped. Those of the Reversed Hangman typically shown to make rash and impulsive decisions, less of a careful sacrifice and more "Whatever happens happens"

[@LordVandor1]

MY GOD

[@kidsto2612]

Good catch!

[@LokelyConed]

17:57 I thought one of the cables were going into her arm where her vein was. I interpreted that as her being addicted to the internet. The phrase "im in heaven" would then be talking about the euphoric feeling you get when you use your addiction.

[@Kammi_TheAstrophile]

I feel like that makes more sense, but why did she dissapear

[@koathekid8255]

@@Kammi_TheAstrophilewhy do you think she’s so pale That skin color isn’t natural I mean if you been on the internet you’ve seen what those ravaged by there addiction look like

[@DerpyDragon...52]

@@Kammi_TheAstrophileThe disappearance in this case would be metaphorical, and if not she's just so secluded(i think that's the right word)that she seemingly vanished from society.

[@eliotsamuelson]

I thought that too. Like maybe it was mentioning drugs of some kind?

[@midnalazuli793]

Huh, never thought of it that way, but that's a very valid interpretation. I do think it's possible she used her creation as some form of escapism from her stressful life, and that at some point, she got TOO invested in it.

[@foothiewoothie8372]

i really like how it doesnt matter what clothes are chosen in the dress up game, the outcome is the same it never is about what someone is wearing edit: for those of you talking about the game, there is no official playable game. the steam game is not an official part of Lacey Games

[@_indii]

That's some good commentary...

[@СтоянИванов-п2к]

Isn't witness of SA need to pick the clothes of the victim to identify them?

[@tenhovahakangas9175]

​@MICHIELJUNIOR_THY_ZNTPBro matpat aint even here nomo😭🙏

[@Milky_Yippee]

@@СтоянИванов-п2к Yes but that's not what the phrase means. It means that the SA could have been avoided if they wore less "revealing" clothes puting them as the blame but that is not the case. It does not matter what the victim was wearing, they couldn't have prevented it they are NOT to blame

[@accountsnames2614]

​@MICHIELJUNIOR_THY_ZNTPBro has dementia😂

[@Rollermain12]

LETS HAVE MORE GHOSTUNDRA THEORIES PLEASE!! There are multiple series by them and they’re all amazing and full of loreee

[@majorellis2841]

are they all terrifying😭😭😭

[@NA-ud6qm]

@@majorellis2841 I hope so :)

[@RGLozWriter]

I think another big thing about the website is that even after Rocio added all the dark traumatic stuff, it was still considered popular. Meaning she did do what she set out to do, and managed to reach out to little girls who were either enjoying the dark images with no understanding, or did understood and felt connected.

[@midnalazuli793]

Honestly, that aspect feels more like an oversight than anything.

[@therandomscout6590]

Same thing happened with the actual youtube vids

[@midnalazuli793]

14:02 I don't think the point of Jay's Skating Game is that "recklessness leads to fatality." I mean, it had already been established that Jay was killed off because mothers complained about her being a tomboy. It's not like Rocio killed off her character because she wanted to advise kids about the dangers of being reckless, she killed her off to spite the parents who complained about her.

[@Lizard_Ri]

I think it also could imply something to do with bullying

[@midnalazuli793]

@@Lizard_Ri Oh yeah? How so?

[@Lizard_Ri]

@@midnalazuli793 (disclaimer: I didn't see the original videos, I'm a coward, so what I know is from here) Jay was killed after a lot of parents called her a bad influence, which in real life is usually followed by those parents forcing their kids to not talk to a certain child (in that case, Jay). It feels to me like Jay might have had that happened to her, losing parts of her friend circle, which would explain why she drove (I hope that's the word) recklessly intentionally, not caring about consequences like death. P.s I hope it's readable, English isn't my first language and my brain is half dead today😅

[@midnalazuli793]

@@Lizard_Ri Well, I guess that's possible, but just look at how devastated Lacey was upon seeing her friend's corpse. It's obvious she never abandoned her, and that her death impacted he greatly. Their friendship is honestly beautiful considering they're polar opposites, with Jay being a tomboy and Lacey being a girly girl.

[@ramaneeshm]

@@midnalazuli793 The killing is more symbolic than it is literal. Sure you could say that the creator did that for the sake of parents but in the context of the game it makes much more sense for her to be reckless and die. It teaches the important lesson of recklessness.

[@PlayerOne.StartGame]

I love this because it totally seems like a real flash game meant to traumatize kids. Like y’all remember that peta cooking mama game?

[@wlwdwtys]

Oh yeah I totally remember the one. With the.. "bicycle"

[@baaa838]

@@PlayerOne.StartGame I'm ngl with you, I thought that was the original cooking mama game and I wanted to rewatch it but all I got was the original and was like "tf happened I want my nostalgia"

[@bluecretan7441]

​@@wlwdwtys"Can Your Pet," not actually PETA but in the same vein.

[@BotDoctor]

Very Scary PETA games that did NOT work

[@baaa838]

@@wlwdwtys "oh my duckling is gonna go ride on a bi- NOOOOOO *insert yuji itadori crying after sukunas domain expansion*

[@dgao-m9t]

i love how this series covers trauma to realistically. as someone whose been through a few events Lacey's been through, this is exactly what thoughts related these experiences would look like of it was visible

[@tobyleking]

oh i'm so sorry, i hope you're doing better from those events🫂🫂🫂

[@dgao-m9t]

@tobyleking thank you 🫶🏽

[@thibbs2977]

I'm surprised and honestly a bit disappointed that Tom didn't even mention the part with the pigs eating flowers. It shows not only the abuse itself, but what the actual abuse was, which makes it a lot more impactful if you understand the symbolism. I guess talking about that scene would demonitize them, so they left it out. Shame

[@PhantomGato-v-]

There's a lot of really heavy topics in this series, so many things that I don't think they could talk about without the video getting age restricted, not even just demonitised.

[@yingofdarknes]

@@PhantomGato-v- That's why I kind of wish they hadn't covered it. Others creators have done a much better job covering the series because they don't care about that, and so talk about the grittiest parts of the series.

[@EdwardD-i7c]

Yea... 90% of the bad stuff was cut out. Some of the message got across, but... Drugs wasn't the worst ingredient.

[@yingofdarknes]

@@EdwardD-i7c They didn't even mention the SA which is a very real reality for many women and adds to the horror of the wardrobe game

[@gogauze]

​@@yingofdarknes​ I can empathize with the feelings that something you care about wasn't really done justice. But, I wonder if you might feel some consolation in the fact that a guaranteed 500k viewers will know enough to go find the whole thing by the end of the week.

[@bestboisoupsoup]

the bits and pieces rocio put into laceygames feels like the neurotic trance that drives a person's demented mind to mania, trying to escape (or at the very least alleviate) the pain of trauma by making sense of their reality, only for it to fall apart the moment they realized they had no control of their own life since the very beginning.

[@peacefulcreativity444]

I found this series yesterday and it heavily reminds me of of what psychosis feels like, and also mania, like you said.

[@AxolotlFan329]

Honestly, I love how caring Tom was during the final warning. “It’s okay to back out of this video.”

[@jordynzachrielbabacyao2083]

"That's just a theory, a Game Theory!" "RUINING YOUR CHILDHOOD SINCE 2011💀"

[@mikhailibe3621]

Ruining your childhodd since March 2024

[@thisisaguy6613]

Watching the Lacey series as it came out, i would have NEVER expected Game Theory of all channels to tackle it. Petscop, Shipewrecked64 and even Hiimmarymary were pretty dark, but this might take the cake for the next 2 years, man.

[@midnalazuli793]

I know, right? The series is SUPER dark and disturbing, but there's also something artsy about it too.

[@johnmanuel332]

I bet the bots support Dr. Disrespect

[@oightKoreraAreEditable]

3:56 the thing censured by the monetisation sign are condons I understand why he didn't mention it, but it is heavily implied that her uncle didn't only abuse her physicially or psychologically In this story there is a prevelant theme of sa

[@doomdecepticon933]

Most abuse cases irl involving girls have the prelevant motive of sa, so, it's just real i would imagine

[@FantasyB00KS]

Tom, Mat never did the final Petscop theory. You have to do the final Petscop theory that Mat never gave us. We've waited years Edit: OMG 10k likes ty and hopefully we get the theory

[@peckneckanimations]

Please please pleaseeee

[@mahaarshad3820]

YESs we need a final petscope theory

[@wilfweNightsky]

​@@peckneckanimationsaradia spotted

[@ld0163]

TOM! DROP PETSCOP 2 AND MY LIFE IS YOURS

[@repetitive-thinking]

i think a fresh new start for petscop theories would sit better

[@tommars3272]

Man, you had to dance around so much to keep this video at least not age restricted. Props to you and the editors.

[@theafterlife4688]

I love how in Lacy’s wardrobe no matter what you put her in she still gets stalked and kidnapped

[@Aria_Sayuki]

Killed* But I agree with you

[@Gn4rpGn4rp_FX]

​@Joseph_14441You aren't funny 💀🙏🙏

[@plampalmer]

@Joseph_14441 Your right. Lets have children drink beer.

[@RAT1294]

In the game you can actually escape the stalker but then you still die

[@AyaLee-yx9bf]

Hey buddy! You’re absolutely sick in the head and should be in jail

[@CoolScratcher]

Honestly, I applaud Tom for talking about a series like this. As much as I love MatPat I can't imagine him wanting to write a theory about this. But Tom did, and he did it while raising awareness about real subjects, he was as unfiltered as possible, and approached the subject with the appropriate level of caution and sensitivity. Much respect. This was the first webseries to make me cry.

[@raawesome3851]

I mean, petscop was a very tragic story that he covered well in his video, and I think he also handled it well. But yeah, Tom covered it well.

[@Topic_Yo]

The script is written by Matt

[@masonwenger6886]

I think you should watch matts petscop series or doki doki perhaps

[@R15wasodd]

Daisy's destruction is just horrid and has little to nothing related to this video.

[@PurpleAutumn]

You should REALLY check out Mattpat's petscop and Doki doki theory's, because they both do awareness about those subjects

[@bluegold1026]

So essentially, Rocio had the right message, but delivered that message in the worst possible way.

[@midnalazuli793]

Maybe...? I'm not even fully convinced her intention was to help kids, I think she was just using Lacey Games as a way to vent out her traumas by projecting them onto the character she created, and was indifferent towards how kids reacted to them.

[@yuewingman456]

She just did it the good ol fashioned fairytale way

[@Alphasnowbordergirl]

So she was trying to be Don Blueth. American tale was basically a child's movie of life being cruel

[@aquelgamermexicano]

By the logic of the theory, Rocio would be the embodiment of "Just because you are correct, doesn't mean you are right". Alphasnow made a funny observation of Rocio trying to be a Don Bluth with the dark tones, however the difference is that Don Bluth believed in the idea of "You can tell any story to a kid as long as you give them a happy ending", in order to bring the idea that through hardships and struggles, the enjoyment of a reward feels better. Again, following the logic of the theory, Rocio would despise that idea because the whole point is that there's no happy endings, otherwise where is her happy ending? She believes that the only through raw and crude reality is ideal for kids to learn and truly be ready for what life can be. Like you said, right message, worst possible delivery.

[@testedcatgaming7714]

Considering the cat saying something on the lines of I was hurt so I will hurt others, that's probably Rocio's motive.

[@Queldonus]

A more grounded in reality look at the ending would be that Rocio realized that being online was triggering her old trauma, and bringing out the worst parts of her past. The imagery of her being wrapped in computer cables would be a physical representation of her, feeling trapped by her online life. Deleting herself, then, would mean abandoning her old life and creating a new identity. But she wasn’t able to let go of the website and the games because she still believes that the message she was trying to convey was important. Those little glimpses of her interacting could be her using the one connection to her past she still has, the website and the games, to see if anything has changed, or wondering about her old friends and using the website to try and check on them. I don’t know what’s more tragic, someone so consumed by their trauma that they end up converting themselves into a part of the games they made to try and escape it, or someone that did literally everything they could, including inventing a new identity, to escape their past, and still finding themselves drawn back to it.

[@xxlittlekeyxx]

It's so depressing how Rocio created this website to both reveal her past trauma and warn children about the dangers of the real world and Gracie couldn't even care whether or not she was dead 😢 Edit: Okay it seems as though I was wrong about Rocio's intentions regarding how the website impacted children and I apologise. Also please don't wish harmful things for anyone regardless of whether they are fictional characters.

[@jereucc]

​@Joseph_14441 why do I see you everywhere.

[@EmileeAria413]

@@jereuccbecause he’s a bot. Report and move on.

[@midnalazuli793]

I seriously doubt that was Rocio's intention. I'm pretty sure she was just using the site to vent out her traumas and was indifferent to what the kids who played on the site thought. Like, if she really cared about them, don't you think she'd be a bit more hesitant to expose them to such blatantly disturbing imagery? I do agree that Grace was a heartless b*tch though.

[@Smiththeinspiringanimator]

Agreed.👍

[@Smiththeinspiringanimator]

I generally want to give her a hug.😊🤗🫂

[@Kulkogo]

I did NOT expect them to cover this!!!

[@armaanmadari5075]

fr same

[@cloudy_rose3115]

Exactly, I was so shocked. Still nice to watch though.

[@MagnaGuy]

I am not, but I did not expect them to take so long to cover it

[@Hunbloom_11]

Fr

[@Bunny_Bill]

I saw it and was shocked. This game is UTTERLY brutal in its imagery and themes. Props to them for covering it in a good way.

[@phonix678]

No hearty and joyful beginning? Oh we are in for a treat

[@gwenpicchi5719]

Ignore all 3 bots. My cue that we were in for something crazy was the lack of jumpscare. If it's not a joke, it's a jumpscare. The fact thay we see neither is concerning.

[@Bunny_Bill]

As someone who watched a video about Lacey's games, omg I couldn't even look at the screen.

[@midnalazuli793]

You aren't going to find any of that in the Lacey Games series.

[@miyu1640]

My ad suddenly saying "Looks like you're watching a game theory video", ngl that shi scared me-😭

[@kuromiscakeluvver]

i would cry

[@BiancaMaria-l1p]

the “no matter what they wear” broke me, we expirience it in 1 person

[@bbymoon]

Absolutely love the multiple warning, especially for a game like this about such serious and life changing trauma. Such a kind thing to help your viewers

[@em-kie]

1:26 MATPAT!! The children are fighting again!

[@miss-socio-btpe]

LOL

[@FoxOpps]

OMG I love this comment 😂😂😂 I'm dying 😂😂😂

[@shonamcmanus8654]

LOL❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤

[@The_dumbking]

0:31 “You have been warned” 2 seconds later “Hello internet 🥰🥰🥰”

[@TheBerkerker]

Disclaimers are for the snowiest of snowflakes

[@Alex-hm5mj]

​@TheBerkerker says the guy complaining about a few sentences

[@TheBerkerker]

@@Alex-hm5mj that doesn’t even make sense, if I said the N word you’d complain. (That’s one word)

[@RxbyAndRxbynRoblox]

​@TheBerkerker you made a point, but that word is offensive , not because they're snowflakes

[@TheBerkerker]

@@RxbyAndRxbynRoblox Cracker is just as offensive hut no one is offended by it

[@Gio2.7GioTown]

FINALLY A THEORY ON LACEY GAMEESS🎉🎉

[@wednesday6991]

YES SIRRRRRRRRRRR

[@stumpid_]

@Joseph_14441 what..?

[@Tinley2]

I've been waiting for this day, and we've finally gotten it

[@megatophatt]

crazy

[@VWFM811]

@Joseph_14441LOL WHAT

[@fizzyizzypop1300]

I’m so happy they’re covering Lacy’s games! I saw someone do a breakdown of the series and it freaked me out in the best possible way!

[@Iminagony2]

@@AUTTPCHEESEMAN-l5cI’m reporting all of em ^^

[@midnalazuli793]

Oh yeah? Whose breakdown of it did you watch?

[@DragonflyMind]

​@@Iminagony2 Good, me too

[@fizzyizzypop1300]

@@midnalazuli793 minaxa They’re like the second result of you search up Lacey Games

[@KohakuNoBaka]

Thanks for covering the series, I'm really glad to see it appreciated! Saw the comments saying that a lot of crucial stuff was omitted or missed out, but honestly, I think the message was conveyed well anyways. You don't have to see every part of the protagonist's suffering to figure out how bad it was and to understand the story in general. Also, just taking the chance to appreciate the art style of Lacey Games. It doesn't look like your average GGG game, with vivid colors and polished design; but it sure does look like a bunch of drawings from a sad disturbed teen from 10-15 years ago. The style is replicated almost perfectly and makes me incredibly nostalgic. It also further shapes out Rocio's character; she feels like a kid I could have known back in the day.

[@thetomboiyoutuber518]

1:20 “If Lee would stop STEALING MY STUFF!!!” Istg these 4 theorist hosts are just all big siblings arguing with each other while Ash is the little sister chilling playing silly games with grandpa Matt over on GTLive 😭

[@IRux2]

Let's not forget that in Lacey's Petshop, when the player goes in the dining room her uncle was shown has a pig eating flowers, which could represent that her uncle not only abused her, but also r and 🍇ed her..

[@midnalazuli793]

It’s really hard to go into detail about this stuff with KZbin’s monetization policies, huh?

[@DreamtaleEnjoyer]

Important to mention: a pig *eating flowers. That's the hint toward grapes.

[@IRux2]

@@DreamtaleEnjoyer sorry ill chage the comment

[@pedro33226]

How does pig eating flowers get to that?

[@IRux2]

​@@pedro33226 flowers are a sign of purity, therefore, someone eating flowers is a sign of stealing someone's innoccance (deflowering, in this case innocance=r), the pig just represents her uncle

[@Spookworm]

As someone who frequented the GGG website (it's either GoGirlsGames or GirlsGoGames, can't quite remember) as a kiddo, the Lacey's Games series really makes me feel nostalgic, especially with that website jingle? These pictures are exactly the same- /Lh But, on a serious note, the fact that this is a series about traumatic experiences, as well, leaves me feeling so much more exposed in a way that a lot of these other nostalgia-trigger analog series' just haven't achieved for me. Lacey's Games hits way too close to home for anyone to really sit comfortably, which I think was the point from the start. Trauma isn't really supposed to be comfortable.

[@DreamtaleEnjoyer]

Art disturbs the comfortable and comforts the disturbed.

[@amberr3662]

It's GirlsGoGames, I grew up on it as well

[@Spookworm]

@amberr3662 ayo, thank! :) I think I'll always have to double-check on the word order in that website name 😂 always have, always will

[@actualaspienc1279]

I played that too! Head-2-Toe Makeover was my favorite

[@tickingstickerbomb]

0:28 i was kinda hoping tom would start singing "hello internet welcome to game theory" with that type of beat

[@pixxiekiller]

I'm so glad that they're covering this series, It deserves so much appreciation

[@Qwertyferitoo]

I got traumatized by watching Lacey’s but it’s good but remember… Art disturbs the innocent and comforts the disturbed (I think it went like that) Edit:GUYS I WROTE IT WRONG I KNOW

[@astroash2468]

It's "disturbs the comforted" but ur version says basically the same thing 👍

[@chello1731]

Holy based​@@SharpasaVineAUTTP-mc9mf

[@jeyoki4147]

Wasn't it "Art should comfort the disturbed and disturb the comfortable"?

[@Qwertyferitoo]

@@jeyoki4147yeah😅

[@TheCreationKilnBlockbench]

ngl this is the worst quote ive ever heard /gen

[@justinly9541]

There's one scene that I feel is very important, but nobody is bringing up. In Lacey's Diner, at around 6:36, slowing down the video will allow you to see Rocio with two wires on her replace Lacey for a split second

[@KaiGreen-g3v]

I thought I was the only one who noticed smh

[@noodle8942]

It's also shown later Roccio hooked herself up to some machines to get into the game

[@actualaspienc1279]

Grace is a terrible “friend”, anyone who can speak so callously about someone who has gone through such HORRIBLE trauma has no heart 😢

[@therandomscout6590]

Agreed, she should be the one in Lacey's place.

[@Obsidian_Enigma]

@@therandomscout6590ok no, that’s awful. Why would you want anyone to go through that?

[@Leeeekr]

Did Grace even know Rocio went through that?

[@therandomscout6590]

@@Leeeekr From the way she speak, probably not

[@ultimatewitcherfan6677]

I agree 💯 If Grace was really Rocio’s friend, she would NEVER have said such mean things about her behind her back and she would never have abandoned her either. I’m surprised Charlie didn’t try to tell Grace to stop saying such mean things about Rocio

[@M456m.]

6:58 I thought finding a disurbing game that'd put a smile on my face would be impossible... I WAS SO WRONG!

[@PonychatMOBILE]

Well I didn’t expect to have a personal connection to this… my cousin Rosio took her own life when she was 15 a little over 10 years ago. She was horribly bullied at school.

[@SEZU_L]

I sympathize with you, I experienced something similar in elementary school and almost did it to myself, but I tried to be stronger, I graduated from school successfully and became happier and did not need self-harm. Hey, I'm sure she knows that you support her and remember her, the main thing is to believe that you are stronger than all this and you will definitely be happy. Bad and good are temporary, even death is not eternal like life. The pain subsides and all that worries you is you and your happiness. ❤

[@kingkalico]

what was wrong with her why was she getting bullied

[@saskiasinclair3998]

what the one form this? I'm so sorry for your loss; I'm sure she's watching over you.

[@cyberWarrior7519]

Sadly she is in jahanam, anyone who takes his own life and he is an adult (pubescent) then heaven isn’t his destination

[@jeon_artemis]

​@@kingkalico why did you presume something had to be "wrong" with her for her to get bullied?? If anything, it's always the bullied who have something wrong in them.

[@CassidyLegend]

*Curiosity :* the creator is Brazilian, this means that it is very difficult for a Brazilian to be recognized for their work, she only speaks in English to her audience, the majority of whom are foreigners. Edit: Sorry for any mistakes in English, because I used a translator :)

[@Think_mate_lol]

Wait, she is? That is amazing!!!! Aí sim rsrsrs 🇧🇷

[@DaDarkEnaxel]

Just so you make another comment in English and you want to write a fact, write Fun Fact instead of Curiosity.

[@Think_mate_lol]

@@DaDarkEnaxel nice

[@Think_mate_lol]

@@DaDarkEnaxel fun fact: every 60 seconds, a second in Africa passes

[@CantSitzDyl]

@@Think_mate_lol what

[@lovelymax88]

I never heard of the series Lacey's games, but man it really hits some hard points. I really appreciate Tom giving the warnings in the beginning because I'm not sure if I would have braced myself as much as I did without them! But just how Rocio's logic of bringing justice by teaching girls what "reality" is like and how she had no supportive figures in her life brings up a lot of thoughts. I think this hit me more AFTER the video ended and I started thinking about it all. Thank you Tom and team Theorists for covering this and thank you for encouraging everyone to consider how powerful words, or even the energy someone carries when interacting with others, can be!

[@midnalazuli793]

I really don't think that was what Rocio's intention was. I think she just used her creation to vent out her own traumas with total indifference to how kids would react. Like, in the fourth episode, it's revealed that Jay's Skating Game and Lacey's Makeup Parlour traumatized a whole bunch of kids.

[@lovelymax88]

ohhh I guess that makes sense too. Since I never saw the series myself, I was just going off of what Tom had interpreted 🙂

[@R41N_CL0UD]

6:55 gaslight, gatekeep, girlboss (i cannot contain the sheer excitement of this being turned into a game theory I absolutely love this series so much omfg AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAQQ)

[@SpeedoIsVeryEpic]

seeing tom sad is heartbreaking. 😭

[@ZairaRidner]

a reply bot detected XD that sounds like a bot, but eh I'm bored and not there yet so I'll wait to acculaly react (ik I cant spell)

[@The-aviation-stuff-official]

​@Joseph_14441 shut it, you waste of oxygen

[@rihardcisar6961]

@Joseph_14441 so?

[@Thecyanblur159]

@@The-aviation-stuff-officialchill

[@azeatre]

@MICHIELJUNIOR_THY_ZNTP hi, little bot !

[@LightMoon7890]

I feel like the dress up part of laceys game wasnt covered as much as it should of been in this video. The horror other girls have felt about a stalker like kacey has. The truth that lacey knows what is going to happen. Its such good horror and intro.

[@thediethrower1803]

I think the issue is it would require them to talk about r*pe which youtube doesn't like

[@LightMoon7890]

@@thediethrower1803 they don't even have to include the grape just a bit more cover would of been appreciated for everyone that has been in Lacey's place. And bless every survivor who didn't have Lacey's outcome.

[@Is_kitten]

I don't think you commented on Grace enough. You can tell by her words and her body language shown in the latest video that she is being deceptive to Charlie, which likely makes her a part of Rocio's trauma

[@V_Sans]

I noticed that aswell. Kinda hard to miss the fact that what Grace says does NOT line up with what we see in the videos. Thus, Tom's closing remark about how to save Rocio is much less about Grace being the better person and helping her, and more so Charlie taking the responsibility that Grace shifted due to selfishness, and being the friend Rocio deserved from the start.

[@therandomscout6590]

Yeah, Grace should be in Lacey's place.

[@midnalazuli793]

Grace definitely comes across like she knows more than she's letting on. It's already obvious that she's not that enthusiastic over reminiscing on Lacey Games, to the point where she initially denied she had any affiliation with it. It feels like she only wants to reveal certain parts that paint Rocio as the bad person, but doesn't want to mention anything that could potentially antagonize herself in any way.

[@bags-px7kv]

3:34 NOOOOO I'M SCARED NOW I'M ALONE

[@Bunny_Bill]

I watched a documentary video about Lacey's games and omg I couldn't look at the screen for the entire video. Lacey's games really knows what it's doing visually

[@Bee-Seer123]

Yeah, Jay's corpse made me unable to sleep

[@therandomscout6590]

they should collab with Ready Or Not

[@Your_local_mental_health_doctr]

I’ve seen a uncensored video of Lacey’s wardrobe, I couldn’t sleep after watching the end and when I see something like this it forces me to remember what happened to her and I can still hear her crying at the end of the game, so I’m kinda relieved after finding out why and who made that game

[@midnalazuli793]

Lacey's Wardrobe isn't a real game.

[@Your_local_mental_health_doctr]

@@midnalazuli793 shut up (that is a joke please don’t hate me)

[@AroAceratdemon]

The quality of this is immense, I love how games can go so deep by just its own way, no needed immense graphics, outstanding budget, etc, just the creativity, it’s own style is what makes it amazing

[@midnalazuli793]

I mean, the series IS pretty graphic, lol.

[@Wolfstar73]

Exactly, which is why it's really cool and fascinating to find and explore some smaller games or indie games like what was presented in the theory. Also you probably have already, but forget the bot comments you get, they just try to get your attention

[@juliankohler5086]

2:21 Nope. I need the sun up there and birds singing to watch this one. It's midnight. No way.

[@Kayah-m7v]

RN ITS 3:21

[@dianasakura4743]

Lee and Tom yelling at each other from their respective rooms Peak sibling behavior

[@EclipseZth]

Literally me and my bro lol

[@fireaza]

I just wanna say how well this pseudo-game nails the "I grew up watching American cartoons, but when I was was pre-teen I started watching Sailor Moon" art style that was prevalent in the 2000s.

[@Fr4nki3nste1n]

How I have been waiting for this episode to come out is insane. Lacey games is so lore heavy and so dark, that I've honestly been wanting y'all to do a theory on it.

[@TheJadeDragonWasTaken]

Ive been wanting a theory on this for years, im so glad you finally covered it!!!

[@KaylieghHereford]

You know it's gonna be good when Tom pulls out his serious voice in the first three seconds!!!

[@IHateTheUTTP]

A reply bot has been detected on this comment, please ignore it and report it. Don't interact with the bot it feeds off your attention! 30006

[@midnalazuli793]

Yeah, they did a great job narrating this video.

[@KaylieghHereford]

@@midnalazuli793 TYSM FOR NOT BEING A BOT COMMENT OH MY GOSH

[@Pandemoniummoment]

You know Tom isn't messing around when he puts out 2 warnings.

[@OliviaGwings]

Fr fr

[@BoliVic96]

I feel like the game earns them

[@Yellowdude-hy6vi]

I play doom and mortal kombat nothing can traumatize me I hope

[@BoliVic96]

@@Yellowdude-hy6vi depends on your sensitibility to SA, triggers are diverse because traumas are as well

[@Yellowdude-hy6vi]

@@BoliVic96 I know that I said a joke

[@Katmoor]

Omg...I didn't think this was somthing Game Theory would cover. Then again, they did do Shipwreck 64.

[@Kyojuroooooooooo]

@MICHIELJUNIOR_THY_ZNTP zntp isnt better then matpat

[@elephy-yt]

Not the bots again I always seen one in every comment

[@midnalazuli793]

I mean, they did do a LOT of videos on Petscop, which is still a relatively niche series with a small following.

[@Wolfstar73]

​@@Kyojuroooooooooo don't reply to the Bots, they get attention from your replies, so it's better to just not interact and report it

[@ProgramViBee]

@@Kyojuroooooooooo If you reply to the bots, youtube wont recognize them as spam.

[@maramuwu]

"these games are created to comfort the disturbed and to disturb the comforted"

[@suunnebelmond]

The fact that i was obsessed with gils flash games and have a history of mental problems this horror game means so much to me i am so happy you guys are talking about it.

[@Charlie-lp3ns]

“Oh boy another game theory video! I cant wait to see what the theory is for today!” *Gets traumatized*

[@Charlie-lp3ns]

@Joseph_14441 That isn’t hilarious that’s just sad

[@midnalazuli793]

That's Lacey Games for you.

[@FNFortuneAlt]

@@Charlie-lp3ns It's a bot

[@carlitolol1435]

​@Joseph_14441 what the heck

[@aimlacked]

What’s this? Game Theory steps out of the family friendly circle!?!

[@erikusder1.393]

They were never realy family friendly, their most famous theorys are about dead Kids and serielkillers

[@aperson8420]

Dude the most popular theories here are about dead kids in a pizza place it was barely family friendly

[@usernameisusernam]

What game theory have you been watching?💀

[@exist3r]

hmm this video sounds familiar … host talking about and stepping out of “ family friendly “ spaces… ( insert petscop ( kinda )

[@thedoglovinggamer5825]

Dude, they cover a bunch of non family friendly things.

[@adispark_1781]

Dropping this here, don't know who will see, but this is coming soon. A demo was just released today for this game

[@liamboyd3705]

You know it’s gonna be rough when there’s no opening joke Edit: as someone who struggled with mental healthy in the past this was too real and depressing for me.

[@cloudy_rose3115]

Real though, good thing though.

[@your_cute_]

I agree

[@ShiftingEcho]

What is wrong with Joseph

[@TheGrayAllay]

@@ShiftingEcho It is a bot channel.

[@TENBILLIONPERCENTSURE]

Yeah.

[@jessicachell8993]

I love how Tom is focusing on this with love and care I feel like matpat mainly focused on theory's without focusing on the main tragic story (example is man in the suit theory)

[@jeconiahjoelmichaelsiregar7917]

1:15 I love these little crossovers between hosts, I hope they find more opportunities to slip these in on other channels depending on the topics they cover

[@CYNTHIA-w9q]

You could technically use this to collab with all channels. Cooking game for food theory fashion game for style theory and Game and Movie theory could explore 50/50 of the videos

[@theundertalenerd6981]

9:53 this comment is being made as I am watching, but I have a theory on this. I think the horrible images are here so Rocio can cope and accept her past as part of who she is now. She made these scenes to say “I used to be abused and beaten, but I was able to escape. Even if I’m still haunted by him. I won in the end.”

[@midnalazuli793]

Interesting and valid interpretation.

[@theundertalenerd6981]

@@midnalazuli793 why thank you :D

[@lMegumemesl]

6:43 "and when he turned his back i was the dog that bit his neck" goes so hard

[@Dum__Bch]

I'm glad that Lacey's games have been depicting trauma like this. It doesn't make us angels, we actually become very vulnerable. I think Lacey's Games showed it well, and I'm glad it's accurate and that you guys covered it!

[@midnalazuli793]

Yeah, I like as sympathetic as Rocio is, she absolutely isn't 100% innocent.

[@gemmstonee]

the way the warning at the beginning was so serious and intimidating but after it is just a cheerful pink background with happy music 😭

[@ArixCupio]

If yall like Lacey's Games, there's an ARG similar called "Rain Heart Kawaii Quest" that has a visual novel!! It's really cool and I'd love to see it covered on here 🙏🏾

[@OliviaGwings]

OHH I HEARD OF THAT!!! I need to go back to that!🤩

[@Anijirin]

My mom always said to me, "Words have power." Over the years, that statement has become truer and truer. Lacey's Games even prove it.

[@StormPheasey]

It always makes me happy to see warnings like that at the beginning; it shows that youtubers actually care about their audience and their wellbeing

[@jasonhumphrey6172]

It’s just disgusting how this is real…How and why would anyone have to go through all that…..? It’s just disgusting….

[@Cillymannn]

We are all cooked. Return to crab.

[@AverageKatz]

headcrab

[@ZairaRidner]

this is a funny comment, sry about all the bots :}

[@Dr.Freeman...]

can confirm​@@AverageKatz

[@Cillymannn]

@@ZairaRidner ik bro :(

[@AverageKatz]

@@ZairaRidner what bots???

[@ryguystudios64]

Lacey is just a traumatized Miku with short hair

[@r4inii-in-painy]

ABSOLUTELY FOUL 😭

[@TENBILLIONPERCENTSURE]

THATS WHAT I THOUGHT

[@STN4D]

So you're telling me Lacey is just Kikuo's Miku?

[@isaachasatinyd]

that's what i thought too, i genuinely couldn't unsee it

[@midnalazuli793]

Would that make Jay Rin?

[@bangsofdoom]

this is the first video I've seen eversince Matpat retired, and I had some personal worries, but as soon as I clicked on it, I felt those worries melt away can't wait to catch up on all the new videos 💗

[@BAMIAM__]

Thank you for those warnings, tom. By the third one, i was out of here. Lacy games sounds terrifying and i wouldve lost so much sleep by continuing.

[@starchu4538]

I've been WAITING for the Theorist channel to cover Lacey Games, it's been one of my favorite recent horror series and I'm glad it's getting even more attention. Obviously Lacey touches on some very harsh topics but I think it shows it in the most raw and creative way it can, not just for shock value. There's so much more to come since this is still an on going series so I hope to see it pop back onto this channel soon

[@Max.K00]

Well Tom you’ve reached a new milestone: This series is so messed up that you can’t even joke about

[@lunawazhere]

i love the subtle interactions between each theory channel's host on each other's channels

[@Trix7x-]

TELL MATPAT THAT GRAVITY FALLS NEEDS HIM