OCULUS TOUCH VS HTC VIVE CONTROLLERS - COMPARISON AND REVIEW

In this video we compare the Oculus Rift and HTC Vive controllers and explain in which way each do things best !
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HTC Vive controllers Good - 0:48
HTC VIVE Vontrollers Bad - 6:15
Oculus Controllers Good - 11:02
Oculus Controllers Bad - 18:56
Conclusion - 23:36
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[@ericjr2601]

Just got the Rift plus touch and seven games for $399. No comparison needed at that price.

[@1989gregb]

Anyone else wish the Vive came with Rift controllers? I cant wait for those knuckle gloves..

[@mango3520]

I hate the shape of the oculus controllers

[@yuhreal]

@@mango3520 they're still more natural feeling than the vive

[@pieter7418]

can you use the rift controllers with the vive?

[@miles6421]

Pieter 741 Nope.

[@dingoon5437]

@@miles6421 wdym yes you can lmfao although you'd have to use oculus lighthouses for the controllers, so if you want this to happen, buy the htc vive alone by itself, then buy 2 rift controllers and 2 lighthouses (3 is recommended)

[@yashizuko]

I finally got the vive 4 days ago, the feedback on the vive controllers i agree is absolutelly amazing, trying nvidia funhouse when u rub the 2 swords together or u smash the big hammer around, it feels 100% real! Now if only the vive controller had the shape of the oculus touch T.T it kinda feel comparing the wiimote vs nunchuck for their shapes and how they handle.

[@ca1ib0s]

Hold on. The extra weight of the Vive controllers is an advantage but for some reason the extra weight added by a single AA battery in each Touch controller is a disadvantage?? This strikes me as trying to balance out the pro's and cons lest it shift the 'win' in one direction or the other and trigger the itchy trigger finger unsubscriber/downvote elements of both communities.

[@bliglum]

He said in the vid.. The touch controllers are trying to go for a more weightless "hands in VR" experience. By going with a heavy old school AA, that is sort of at odds.. The Vive Wands, on the other hand, are going for more of a grip style, like a gun, or a sword. Which feels better with more weight.

[@GamerMuscleVideos]

As bliglum pointed out , its more that the vive wands end up feeling like a gun you are holding so the wight gives you the impression that what you are holding in game is real as well. Where as the touch controllers are more a conduit to get your hands in the game. Obviously the best all round thing would be if vive controller were lighter and then users could optionally add weight to it, I was not realy saying the wight was a "feature" but more that it was not a detriment to the controllers in most use cases.

[@davidpalomino9138]

Can we just all agree, both HMD are absolutely amazing, and there shouldn't be any division in the Vr Community.

[@donsancho6690]

THANK YOU! If I win the finale for my poetry contest, I can buy a VR - I'm gonna get an Oculus Touch just because of the awesome gesturing, design (and price lol). However, I am obviously going to get some trouble with tracking I wouldn't get with the HTC Vive... and that's fine, at least I have the Oculus' pros, and vice versa.

[@jonathanwood7079]

@@donsancho6690 So... did you win?

[@donsancho6690]

Nope :l

[@BluffMunkey]

I 'knew' the Vive was the one I was going to get for aaaaages. Then the price reduction came and now Oculus/Touch is far more appealing than before.

[@GamerMuscleVideos]

BluffMunkey lol flip a coin !

[@BluffMunkey]

I flipped a coin and it landed on it's side. I guess it's both then.....

[@brandon9271]

BluffMunkey i just found a CV1 and touch on eBay for $468.. no decision to make at that price :) i was going to do the HDK2 and PSmove controls

[@moog38yearsagoupdated1mont9]

The price reduction is there for a reason. xD A bad reason..

[@Evokyr]

I own both... Not very different actually. I prefer oculus touch in hand, feel a lot better and i prefer them for gaming. But the tracking on the vive is indeed better. The oculus comes with the build in audio, while the vive requires an extra 100 bucks atleast for a deluxe headstrap. The Oculus is lighter and more comfortable, but the vive is better for a person wearing glasses like me. Also sweating is an issue with both. Both have good tracking overall, a 3rd sensor for the Oculus makes it very good, but a 3rd with the Vive makes it even better. But i prefer the "stand" sensors on the rift, can be placed on the middle of a table and still work. I would say both have good and bad things. But They are pretty similair

[@SmokeyMesa]

With 3 sensors, my touch tracking is quite solid, 2 was disappointing since you inevitably turn away from the front sensors.

[@PingRandy]

i have 360 tracking with both sensors at my upper wall so no issues at all :D

[@thatwolffe3802]

I know this is an old comment but with 2 sensors you can put them at each corner of the room and just skip it telling you that you cant in the oculus software, works really well, but 3 sensors is always better.

[@MrWookLoaf]

So basically what it all comes down to is cost.. If you really really want to know the controllers will never lose tracking then that'll cost you a couple hundred more bucks. If youre alright with the controllers maybe losing tracking once in a blue moon, save 200 bucks and get the oculus and if need be invest in a 3rd tracker and still of saved money in the long run... or am i missing something?

[@FlamingCuntLips]

Is it possible to use the HTC headset with the Valve (ps4/xbox) game controller ? Much like the way the PS4 works with the standard Ps4 controller ?

[@orchidchan9899]

where did you buy controllers from?! I NEED SOME FOR MINE!!

[@brianaldred8751]

Good balanced review ... I'm assuming you are a VR avatar tho - you only seem to have arms and hands :) I hope for 2nd gen or later generation, the likes of Oculus and Vive could collaborate and allow the hardware to be interchanged (I know it's unrealistic at this stage, but we can dream).

[@springchickena1]

HTC as a company I have very little respect for, and they have given over control to the steam group (you have to have a gamer application only for video games to even start the htc vive, vs oculus just works when you put it on your head, no work needed.

[@AssailantLF]

It seems pretty clear that the Touch controllers are superior in almost every way. Touch controller advantages: - Natural fit into hands - More buttons (2 analog triggers) - Analog sticks - All buttons, triggers, and sticks are capacitive for more intuitive gestures - Can easily be used like an xbox/ps4 controller - Is perfectly compatible with vive wand-based games Vive wand advantages: - Feels more like holding something (e.g. sword or gun) - Has slightly more reliable tracking - Touch pads can maybe be used in unique ways? And it makes sense, since the Vive wands were the first VR controllers to exist, they didn't have anything to compete with or to be compared to. Now that even more time has passed, we have the Index controllers mostly improving on what the Touch controllers could do, albeit at a much steeper price.

[@kattiegarza4611]

this is exactly the review i wanted to hear. thanks

[@schmobot]

Do people downvote videos when they hear negative things about things they like?

[@matthewlake182]

Vive users in denial, not liking anything good said about Touch. :p But I'm sure they'll rush to get the new vive controllers...

[@pianoguitarify]

It seems like it. This is a more balanced video, saying that there "isn't a clear winner" (and in their eyes whatever VVR system they bought is "the better one") and I guess that's what motivating people to downvote the video.

[@GamerMuscleVideos]

Matthew Lake it's both vive and rift users both communities have lots of toxic people in them since VR got more Popular. Of course some people will also downvite/dislike for genuine reasons as well.

[@matthewlake182]

I guess so. I thought you gave a really honest and balanced review. I pretty much agree with what you said in the video. :)

[@arupian666]

This is actually quite civilised. Try going to a video discussing the Nintendo Switch... On point: I'm picking up the Oculus. I prefer the controllers (from what I've heard), and I'm happy VR'ing from my couch.

[@setop123]

Thank you very much for your time, it's been a really useful review

[@NNinja1255]

"never loses tracking" later jacksepticeye's tracking messes up on the game _To the Top_ lol

[@Ghost572]

I've tried the HTC vive recently but i've just noticed the oculus has joypads on its controller, I take it that is better for movement? like I got used to taking my finger off the touch pad so I wouldn't get wierd movements that made me feel sick but I imagine having an actual lever gives better control.

[@syntic7206]

not avalible in my country for oculus rift. damn now I have to go with htc vive (2nd choice) is it the stock thing or just not able to ship there?

[@gangstashots3298]

So what controller is best for shooting games like Arizona or any other shooter game? That is basically all i want HTC or OCULUS for. PS more weight to the controller i think is better because it makes the guns more realistic feeling.

[@justinspirational]

Thanks for your video- is there a guide somewhere for translating Oculus touch controls to the HTC Vive controller effectively and intuitively in Oculus Touch games using Revive? (I have the Vive but am enjoying some of the Oculus Touch games/demos too)- Thank you

[@Xerkies]

This is a really good review on the controllers! I'm still thinking if I should buy either a HTC vive or Oculus Rift. The neat thing with the HTC vive controller is where you can make hand gestures with it. I'm not sure if you can do that with the Oculus rift controller but if they do, tell me. I should really be figuring out where I'm gonna setup a vr room first. Well hopefully I'll figure something out. I'll look on to more videos so I can find my final decision of which I should by. Thanks anyway for your wonderful review!

[@khennergaming8281]

guys can anyone please tell me if you can use the controllers wired? i just really need to know but i dont own any VR gear and im looking to possibly buy a headset in the future

[@ericschleicher]

A *critical* review focused on the tracking perfromance would be video.

[@cutlik]

very late, but what if you used an AAA to AA adpater? wouldnt that make it much lighter?

[@xchronox0]

Neat. Been thinking of getting into VR but. Everything I looked at involving the headsets themselves didn't help me make any sort of decision. So I eventually decided to look at the controllers, which brought me here. I think you gave it a very fair comparison, and honestly, I'd still be stuck on deciding which one if it weren't for the fact that you brought up the touch pads. I have a steam controller and the right touch pad is the only reason it's a dust collector. I think I'll consider the Rift.

[@LiterallyScarface]

I want the same video but with the new HTC Vive controllers when they are out ! :)

[@firebrigade7143]

Did you take into account the room scaling when you compared controller tracking?

[@GamerMuscleVideos]

Not sure what you mean but light house is simply more precise and less prone to occlusion than Oculus constellation tracking. That said Constellation is faster to set up for front facing , does not need power sockets but needs long usb cables and once you get 3 or 4 cams constellation is effectively indistinguishable from constellation for home use. I think constellation will eventually be abandoned for inside out tracking where as light house will probably keep being used many applications not just VR but anything that needs ultra precise tracking. I think home VR mind you will probably end up being inside out in most cases within 5 years or so.

[@TMERUNNR]

Fair and balanced review. Totally agree with you on the Touch side since I only have rift. I was annoyed that I had to buy a third sensor too get the best tracking, but really enjoy the Touch experience. Btw, I'm still stuck in the 80's hearing that horrible song, "Everybody wang Chung tonight" please pull me up to the 90's with you!!!! please!!! ("

[@tripplenipple1155]

Whut

[@meh78336]

hang on, if the Vive controller has a positive of having some heft, why is the battery adding a tiny bit of weight, to what ends up being a very light weight controller, bad on the rift controllers?

[@m333pm333p]

It's a small point but I was dissapointed you didn't point out the slick manetic battery flap. Love that design.

[@redmann264]

kann man die Oculus Controller auch ohne Oculus Headset z.B.: Windows Mixed Reality benutzen

[@faaskee7071]

With VR capable GPU: GTX 1080 and 4 cores Is there any change of framedrop with Vive compared with Rift? Or are they the same Just an question...

[@GamerMuscleVideos]

Rift in general runs smoother with most games , vive can run better with games made for steam VR though. it really depends from game to game. I'd say rift most the time runs slighty better or seems to due to it having better time warp

[@faaskee7071]

So if i see your Answer there. there might be framedrop with HTC vive idk might be But it dosn´t matter if the game is loading it´s always sometimes lagg depends on GPU I guess

[@bliglum]

The main thing that bugs me about the Steam controller/Vive, is the touch pad control. Never have been a fan of touch pads.. Not on laptops, don't even really like touchscreens on phones or in cars.. Always preferred controls/switches with tactile feedback.. I want a VR headset with the comfortable motion controls of the Oculus rift, the superior tracking of the HTC Vive, and the more comfortable headset with RGB display and conventional lenses of the PSVR (only with higher resolution of course).

[@GamerMuscleVideos]

Yah I much prefer an analog stick for the most part , I think the steam controller ( the one for steam mechines) is really good though int that it has an anlog stick as well as touch pads.

[@ExergameStation]

I'm going to go with a vive because tracking is better, i love the oculus controller feel though , and I wish i had both

[@reeceulf]

23:49 TL;DR for you lazy folks out there

[@wasyl00]

Its interesting that you saw AA battery powering as an downside. I have bunch of rechargeables laying around. To me integrated battery is a problem. You need to be rather strategic about usage. Never forget to plug it after a session in case of going flat in a middle of a game to continue with a cables attached! Seen threads ppl struggling with it.

[@GamerMuscleVideos]

That's true I did say in the video I can see how its good and bad , I guess one advantage of lithium battery would be that stronger rumble could be used as having the batter run out under 10 hours would not be an issue.

[@moog38yearsagoupdated1mont9]

It last sooooooooooo long. And recharge in less than an hour. I use chargers that come with the VIVE, I plug them and they are usually 80% within 15 minutes and 30 minutes for full or so. They recharge way damn fast. The charge speed is greatly reduced tho if plugged to a powerbar, but my powerbar is a shitty one so...

[@baseddragon0882]

I don't think the vive can really hold a candle to the touch controllers 2-3 week long battery life. Though you really only need like 8 hours of use, any more is over kill. I guess one other advantage the touch has is that the batteries wont loose there maximum charge over time, but that would take a while and a fair bit of miss charging.

[@NextWorldVR]

​@@GamerMuscleVideos Whaaat? IT HAS 960MAH. A quality rechargeable AA has 2300-2800mah. AND YOU CAN ALWAYS HAVE PAIR CHARGED...You Sir, are a dummy!

[@emmamcgorrin2478]

Hi just wondering what your thoughts are on dirt rally psvr and if you were going to do a vs video of rift vive psvr all playing same game

[@GamerMuscleVideos]

I have not tried it but I'm sure its not "that" different on PlayStation other than the graphics will be much lower than PC and the head tracking not as good as the Rift or VIVE though probably fine for racing games. If I ever get a PS4 and PSVR I will check it out :)

[@Hank..]

I've heard that the rift is better with PCs that dont quite meet the recommended settings. Is that true? I have an NVIDIA gtx 1050 and its just under the mark.

[@IAmUnderscore]

Hank Wimbleton I’ve got a GTX 1060 6gb and it runs very good. If you look at a comparison between computing power of GPUs, the difference is quite minimal, so I would say that you’d be fine. Try running the steamVR render test and it’ll show you if your PC can run VR well.

[@TheMusician25]

Great Video! Please save my life and give me the name of the song used at the very beginning! Much appreciated!

[@Gaia_Gaistar]

The touch pads on the Vive controls put me off too. I think it also needs knuckle grips. I saw those new ones Valve is working on that are kind of interesting.

[@rogerkreil3314]

So with the Vive controllers, is the button below the trigger the reload button?

[@CaptainResident]

Roger Kreil usually you manually reload the gun inside VR games by taking the magazine out yourself and putting a new one in. No simple button pushing. Not that it's bad. It allows varying speed and different reload methods.

[@tdub8719]

great channel! slightly off topic but the big question then is with the vive on imminent 24 hrs discount to £660 and having seen you use both do you recommend the vive or rift? mainly elite dangerous and project cars.

[@GamerMuscleVideos]

T Dub if you mostly play non made for VR games and simulators it's best to get rift and save money. if you want room scale VR games then it depends a lot on head shape and how much you care about the lenses + aspects of the tracking as to which is better for you. I'd say mostly due to price and asyc space warp the rift is a better HMD for simulators right now.

[@tdub8719]

Thanks for your input on the HMDs. Appreciated. I was leaning toward the RIFT particularly as it would be mainly used for seated SIM titles (limited room for room scale) and like you mentioned cost wise but the current 24hr deal for £100 off the Vive had the old tight wallet twitching for a panic buy. Now I've also seen the LG which is a bit of an unknown quantity but looks like Vive 1.5?

[@ThomySTB]

T Dub I can say you that you really have to go for Rift if you're playing sims. I've played Project cars on the vive once and i hated it! Why? well you can't see your freaking corners until it's too late. But with rift i really enjoy playing project cars because i can see everything perfectly

[@tdub8719]

Thomy thanks Thomy. comments appreciated.

[@G_Zero127]

The only reason you would get a Vive is for the compatibility with the pimax headsets for 6-9 months until the pimax knuckles+baystations come out. I would go for rift 100% if it was cross compatible with other headsets. But going for the vive just for the pimax this Feb/March pre-orders.

[@matthewcoleman8267]

Been looking forward to this. I'm so on the fence it's cutting me in two!

[@GamerMuscleVideos]

Matthew Coleman both are first gen devices and ether are fine really. try them out in a shop if you can for at least 30 min on each.

[@matthewcoleman8267]

I really do not like the track pad on the steam controller. This might really seal it for me.. but then I don't want to buy the Rift and regret it for the few times I want to do room scale stuff! arghhhh Help me GM, you're my only hope...

[@GamerMuscleVideos]

You need to try both HMD's a lot of which one is best comes down to shape of your face and your priorities. In general I personally prefer the lenses wider FOV and brighter screen on the VIVE along with the lighthouse tracking. But If you can get the rift for cheaper and set it up well it can be really good and if you dont mind the lower FOV or prefer a lighter HMD + the built in headphones it might be better. I would say ether headset you go for you should buy it from Amazon or a store where you can easily get it replaced should it have issues as HTC especially have terrible customer service.

[@martinianooliveirajunior8356]

does anyone know if I can use rift controllers with HTC?

[@avgredditmod]

yes, you can

[@emmamcgorrin2478]

Its just it would be nice for a good comparison of dirt rally running on all headsets

[@Chevifier]

So essentially rift if you want your hand in the game or vive if you want to hold "tools" in the game. I rather having hands in the game then seeing them holding tool lol. I know its a dumb analogy but you get the point

[@marlmyanimationoutlet3934]

mmmmk, I think I might go for the Oculus Touch's... I've still got the Motion Controls that come with the PSVR, and I'm wanting to upgrade. I REALLY like the idea of the tracking & the weight with the Vive, but I like the design & practicality of the Oculus Touch a little bit more lol. I mean.... Anyone got any specific suggestions? lol

[@drewbeans]

If you have 3 or 4 sensors for the oculus, then tracking wouldn’t be a problem at all. I personally have 4 sensors and it works flawlessly. I’ve tried the Vive controllers and I could never switch from Oculus Touch to them. Touch is waaay lighter and it feels way more natural to pick things up.

[@userxox]

why does the vive controllers look so much the gear vr ones?

[@hunteranubis]

I had chance to play with bouth today and I must say that Oculus controllers are more intuitive then Vive... touchpads are always bad for games for me

[@batvanio]

And you get the feeling that you don't use controllers. And their helmet looks finished, at HTC Vive as a prototype, not a finished model. The only plus with the HTC Vive is in the base stations and more precisely that you don't need so many free usb ports on your computer and additional tracking devices. Not for Oculus Rift. PS: And now I remember. Problem with spare helmet cables. I just wanted to send mine for lack of sound and a little twisted cable and realized that they stopped selling them. At least that's what they told me where I bought it from, and with Oculus Rift cables it is very expensive, not standard but combined HDMI and USB in a common jack.

[@techraan2160]

What does, "Makes you feel like you're holding on to something tangible" even mean? Because it's heavier than the OR controllers? Both controllers are "actually something you're holding on to". It's all about what you get used to. "How real it feels in your hand" is not empirical data. "This air feels more real in your lungs than that air, because this air is more humid" ???

[@GamerMuscleVideos]

The rift controllers are designed to try and be as invisible as possible , in that they melt into your hands and most games using touch represent your hands in game to give hand presence. The Vive controllers are more designed to be like a tool that you also see in VR and so rather than giving direct hand presence they achieve the goal of feeling as if you are holding the same controller but in vr. generally speaking, when it comes to the Oculus controllers and the new not yet released valve knuckles controllers the lighter the better as that makes them less noticeable in your hands.

[@techraan2160]

Thank you. That is an infinitely more concrete review. I'm probably still going to go with the Oculus Rift. I want thumb sticks on my controllers. Will the Valve Knuckles have thumb sticks?

[@robinmeade7573]

Wtf? First you're saying that VIVE controllers have some "heft" to them and you like it, because it feels like you're holding something, then your complaint with Touch controllers is that they're too heavy because of the battery!? Make up your mind!

[@GamerMuscleVideos]

The idea of oculus controllers is that they melt into your hand , in most oculus games they basically are your hands and so you want them to be as light as possible. The vive controllers are like a tool you hold onto, so when you are holding a gun for example or a tool in game that uses the vive controller shape it makes that tool or gun feel more solid and real in some ways. Rift controllers feel better when you use in game character hands and vive controller feels better when you are using an ingame tool. hope thats more clear and explains things better !

[@donsancho6690]

A reasonable and not angry answer to a debate on the internet. Damn! P.S: The video helped a lot!! If I win my poetry contest, I'm definitely getting the Touch.

[@Nezzen-]

sanchy panchy did u win?

[@ca1ib0s]

It pains me to admit that the Vive donut does indeed seem to provide better occlusion resistence. Before I got Touch we were told that one of the benefits of two front facing cameras or a 3 or 4 camera setup where at least two cameras always saw the controller was occlusion resistence for very close hand interaction. In practice though, If I occlude say my left controller with my right controller from the point of view of my right camera, I get the controller drifting a couple of virtual inches until it snaps back when I un-occlude that controller, this despite the fact that 2 of my other cameras can still see the occluded controller. That said, with the Vive controllers I wouldn't have to worry about controller drifting when I bring them together because the donuts mean physically they can't be brought that close together anyway so its kinda moot. However, it was one of the advantages we were told Touch would have over the Vive controllers that it turned out not to have after all. Doesn't change the fact though that in all respects that matter to me, I much prefer the Touch controllers.

[@jearl961]

I'll review both these black controllers on a black background. What a great idea.

[@BlxzeSanity.]

I wish A Have A Vive Controller But Its Expensive On Ph

[@konnylindquist7306]

minecraft vr mod use the klick on the htc vive controller trigger, if you press it you walk and when you press it all the way to the klick you will run

[@AliceJellyfish]

which ones works for STEAM?

[@CaptainResident]

RacerDrago Vive Wands. The Vive as a whole goes hand-in-hand with Steam, with SteamVR.

[@PingRandy]

thats it im not getting htc vive.... i have oculus and windows mixed and on windows i didnt like the battery time and they have 10+ hours with one charge! oculus only takes 1 battery per controller and they reach for me upwards to 20-30 hours lifetime--- yesterday i did a 12hours livestream so i didnt needed to put any cables onto my controllers restricting my immersion! I nope out for htc vive.... altough im getting the base stations and some trackers to use fullbody in VRChat :D with oculus :D

[@geminijune8335]

Wait... There's a way to use Vive trackers with the Oculus headset?

[@PingRandy]

@@geminijune8335 yup its an kind of workaround for the steam vr software to accept both devices at the same time. But don't ask me how, I don't have an full-body set at the moment. And I'm sitting in a bus that is driving over 700km from my home at the moment xD

[@yusufshaikh2480]

When you have a black controller then keep the background white or a light colour so that the controller is visible.

[@djcovhud87]

like the headset, the vive controllers are ugly as shit imo. the fact that i don't care about room scale and the looks of the headsets made the choice a no brainier for me. iv been very happy with my rift. just wish there was more triple a games and less crappy little "experiences" out for it

[@justjrandomuser]

The reason the haptic feedback or "rumble" feels weaker in the oculus is because they only use 1AA as a power source. That's 1.5 volts which isn't much. Additionally any significant use would quickly drain the battery.

[@ABGAN100]

I've never had any tracking problems with the Rift regardless of where I'm facing

[@bigjiggyraisin1305]

I thought those big holes in the vive controllers were cup holders

[@rancerrex]

can u use HTC vive controller with oculus rift? Can u use oculus touch with HTC vive?

[@GamerMuscleVideos]

No , touch needs rift cams to track and vive wands need lighthouse to track.

[@rancerrex]

thx

[@ComandanteJ]

To be honest, doubt you could notice the difference in weight between a AA battery + bracket and a lithium cell + charging port + charging circuits. That said, yeah, it's kind of a bummer that they use a AA instead of a rechargable battery... But at least the AA is replazable.

[@Crallux]

Easy solution for the touchpad would be to make it concave.

[@haonmonkey]

I prefer the touch controllers but I think I’ll be saving money for the htc vive pro anyway

[@JoshMightymouse]

Haon Monkey vive pro isn’t worth the price. I’d save your money for next gen vr

[@chevroletgaming1576]

"never lose tracking" meanwhile Jack's hands are across the room in baby hands

[@PolygonDonut]

I feel like the oculus rift is better, the controllers have better pros than the vive pros and are way less expensive.

[@Spellegies]

There is a summer deal going on now for the Rift, if you have the money i'll say go for the Rift

[@gladiator288]

I wish I could touch both the oculus touch and vive and play games to decide

[@gabe8168]

Super helpful, but haters hated

[@nerodius58]

I like the oculus rift controllers better by far because it feels more like I’m using my hands and when you grab a pistol or knife or anything in a VR game it feels like you’re holding onto that. I don’t know why Vive made there controller like remotes because it doesn’t feel like you’re using your hands. That kind of controller looks like it would only feel good if you were using a sword. Unfortunately I can’t play as many games with oculus rift as I can play with htc Vive. Guess I have to get the vive

[@robertboygaming6713]

I would say the Oculus Touch Controller is better because there is a button to grab stuff which is good.

[@flexarnn]

It would be cool if they made the touch pad interchangable with a analog stick :P

[@GamerMuscleVideos]

flexarnn that would be nice !

[@hyggeravn6325]

i thought exactly the same!

[@springchickena1]

the real deal breaker is in software. oculus has way more design and engineering in its software department and really really improves on things like watching videos or getting higher fps in games

[@donsancho6690]

I am in a poetry contest, and am one of the "finalists", if I win, I get 500 bucks! Can't wait to get an Oculus Touch, with or without the grand prize.

[@zachariah210w6]

sanchy panchy did you win?

[@donsancho6690]

Nope :l

[@Gimmi_Ketchup]

Что он сказал лучше?

[@MrRubiksCube657]

the batteries for the touch controllers are better because you can instantly continue playing if they die, and they last for multiple months

[@jopo6445]

7-8 hours battery usage* even after 3 years

[@Gebora]

so far tracking has been pretty flawless for me with the rift, though in terms of battery, i'd say Vive wins, you wont need to run to the store to play a vive

[@thatwolffe3802]

Rechargable batteries are a thing, and if you get a pack of 4 its as simple as swapping them out and putting the others on charge, with the vive wands you have to wait for them to charge before you can use them.

[@firkinflamer8604]

And then... the controllers become gloves, "You can now even feel it!". That'd be cool...

[@avgredditmod]

lol this aged well, no sarcasm

[@Alpha-gk6hd]

Both these controllers are amazing, i prefer my wands, i cant wait for htc vive knuckles next year

[@jadimatic1096]

Oculus Vive, best of two worlds, lets make it happen.

[@roamingbarber3100]

Personally I like htc vive controllers

[@markgreenberg7836]

I’m looking for a clear winner

[@IAmUnderscore]

mark greenberg Oculus. The grip controls are much better, an analog stick is easier to use, and they’re much, much cheaper. The only downside is not quite 360 tracking with the included 2 sensors. However, for an extra 80 bucks (which still puts you below the vive price) you can get an extra sensor for room scale and full 360.

[@abramo7700]

The knuckles just knock all of these out of the water now. The oculus is 2nd in place, the Vive is 3rd now.

[@thatwolffe3802]

I would say the knuckles are first, original oculus controllers are second, the new ones are third and the wands are just dead last But for durability I would say the original oculus are first and the wands are second followed by the knuckles and then the new oculus.

[@GnogginGnome]

am i the only one that likes the vive wands?

[@linklovezelda]

Idk what country you're from but over here in America butter isn't sticky...

[@Herbstleid]

than its no real butter...

[@prmikey]

Herbstleid Most food in 'America' isn't real.

[@cheflinguinivlogs9743]

I personally like htc vive controller There are perfect in my hands and feel great🙏🏻

[@NextWorldVR]

BIZARRE BOZO statement about lithium inrernal Vive battery.. ​ IT HAS ONLY 960MAH. A quality rechargeable AA has 2300-2800mah. AND YOU CAN ALWAYS HAVE A PAIR CHARGED... DUH..

[@hamad-ml1hw]

Touch is better !!!!

[@Ajz4]

I got rift cause it’s cheaper

[@Beyonix]

Oculus Rift all the way!

[@syntic7206]

hey myb you can help me... when I go to order oculus rift it says the product is not avalible in my country. shipping or just not in stock?

[@Beyonix]

@@syntic7206 because it has sold out because they stopped selling them due to the Rift S releasing. The only chance you have of buying it now is going on Ebay or something

[@syntic7206]

@@Beyonix the new rift S is the same price the basic one that is but I think you dont get sensors or whatever with it. Idk im worried...

[@peterclements3219]

Oculus rift superior

[@wolferxv4553]

what I got from this review: HTC Vive controllers = Cool, but touchpad is meh Oculus Touch = Second coming of Christ

[@mhnoni]

Skip to min 19:10 and thank me later.

[@dreamchaserssg]

Thank you for? Just set up extra camera and it beats Vive

[@Stone815]

dont you love those vs. reviews where the reviewer is too scared to say which one is better than the other and says both are good and both are bad so he doesn't get thumbs down.

[@GamerMuscleVideos]

Michael Maxime or the reviewer has owned both for ages and gave a rundown from the perspective of someone that's gotten used to both of them.

[@FourDozenEggs]

Or, he is actually trying to look at them from an unbiased view point unlike, for example, a Vive or Oculus user who bashes other headsets blindly just to feel superior in their consumer decisions. That could be an option.

[@elferson]

Use the vive for shooters and use the oculus for melee based games

[@orhanagridag510]

First of all, before i start Commenting: I Used the Oculus Rift with 2 Sensors and the Touch Controllers for around 2 Weeks...now switched to the HTC Vive with those GOD Awefull Wand Controllers just because i wanted to have Full Body Tracking (with the additional Vive Trackers)...so i know what iam Talking About - so save any "Bla Bla you are Fanboy" Comments! Even without watching the Video, i can say, there IS NO Comparison here, the Vive Wands are amongs the worst Controllers ever made! And compared to the Oculus Touch Controllers, they are HORSESHIT! There is a reason why People all over the Internet wish, that they could use the Touch Controllers in combination with their Vive HMD. Vive Wands feel like holding a damn brick in your Hands! The Controllers are supposed to transfer your "Real Hands" to the Virtual Environment, to be your "Hands" there, the Wands NEVER achive this, while on the other Hand the Touch Controllers feel so much more Natural, if you want to grab something….well grab on the Controller like you grab something in real life, this will make you press the sidetrigger automaticly, and since the touchs sensors are able to figure out where your fingers are (Closed or open) if Translates a Gazillion Times better into Games than what the Vive Wands could EVER Achive! Also, cant even let go of the Wands without dropping them, while you can do so with the touch Conrollers, thanks to their Design, this makes interacting in Social Apps like VRChat a thousand Times more natural than with the Vive Wands! You want to Wave your Hands at someone? (again VRChat) with the Touch just Wave at him like you would do in Real Life! (No Button needed)And with the Wands? Well.....Grab on to your Controller (you have to do that anyway or else youll drop it) and Press the Trigger, while Waving that Brick of a Controller...…..) Also in some of the Comments i read about the Comparison regarding Batteries / Battery Life....and here there is again NO FRIGGIN Comparison! The Touch Blows the Wands out of the Water here too! In those 2 Weeks of Using the Touch Controllers with the Rift, they NEVER died on me while playing! After using them for around 1 Week or so (around 6 to 8 Hours per day!) batteries were a Little low , so i just swapped them for a fully charged pair of Eneloop rechargeable Batteries (1900Mah) and was Ready to Play on! Compared to this, the 3-4 Hours battery Life of the Wands are a JOKE - a BAD Joke - (Maybe a Little longer or Shorter depending on the usage) Yesterday i was having some good fun in VRChat, many People gathered together and we were doing some crazy shit - well that Fun ended when the Wand Batteries DIED on me, Forcing me to end my Playing Season, with the Touch Controllers that woulndt be a Problem, quickly swap the Batteries, and Keep having Fun! Not Possible with the Vive cucumbers - so this is not just a minor Issue, no thats a TREMENDOUS Disadvantage over the Battery Situation on the Touch Side. Than we have the "Valve Knuckles" on the Horizon (Maybe?) those would eliminate most of the Disadvantages of the Wands compared to the Touch Controllers, BUT Right now, those Knuckles seem to be Powered by internal Batteries too, so one of the Serious Drawbacks will still be there! If only Valve would decide to ditch that Internal Battery Bullshit, and also go for AA Batteries like the Touch Controllers! THAN they would not just be equal but WAY Supperior to the Touch Controllers (at least from all the Informations we have Right now for the Knuckles). And last but not least, Movement in Games......with Touchpads.....Gaming on Phones SUCK because Touch Controlls SUCK, so what does HTC do?....slap a Touchpad on the Wands instead of or at least together with a Thumbstick….THIS ALONE allready is reason why the Wands are not even in the same League with the Touch Controllers. Played a few Games including VRChat with the Wands...and yea well, Walking / Running around is HORRIBLE, ABSOLUTELY HORRIBLE, iam not even going into Details About why, it is easy, Thumbsticks are MANDATORY for everything that wants to be called a Controller, without, it is NOT a Controller, but HORSESHIT. Therefore Walking / Runing around with the Touch Controllers, NO PROBLEM! With the Wands BIG PROBLEM! if it wasnt for the Full Body Tracking with the Vive Trackers, i would have sticked to the Rift + Touch Controllers, or would immediately sell the Vive and buy a Rift Bundle again, this is the ONE Big Issue that i have with Occulus, the one Thing i HATE them for! knowing that there is a demand for Full Body Tracking, but not delivering a solution for that, forcing Rift Users to switch to Vive if they want that, what IDIOTS must they be to leave that field for HTC!

[@damithdilan364]

super

[@hippieanajones802]

I use a 3 sensor set up with my rift and my touches never lose tracking however the wands for the vive tend to lose tracking all the time I say touches FTW!!!!!

[@davidpalomino9138]

I am going to get a 3rd sensor soon, what would you say is the best configuration for the sensor placement

[@hippieanajones802]

I have mine set up in a triangle shape, one is in the on the right side of my pc and one on the left side about 5 or 6 feet apart from each other and the third sensor is behind my left shoulder (if I'm facing my pc) on a bookshelf. And as I said in my comment I don't seem to have any tracking issues what so ever, and as far as the guy saying fast or erratic movements cause the touches to lose tracking I have not had this problem even with Sairento VR, this is a ninja game in which you swing around swords and your constantly turning in all directions and again no tracking loss what so ever good luck with your setup and have fun in room scale bro. Oh also don't worry about buying a usb extender cable oculus sends you a ten foot one along with the third sensor.

[@frizznmckrauser3187]

The Vive Wands never lose tracking as long you are in your playspace.

[@hippieanajones802]

I know that and I lose tracking all the time I'll be playing and it's usually the left control that starts flying all over the place it fixes when I recalibrate my view, but then they will lose tracking minutes later so I'm constantly having to recalibrate my view this doesn't seem to happen with the rift and the touches so far they track perfectly.

[@frizznmckrauser3187]

then there is a mirroring surface or something. I have the vive too and after covering my windows everything is perfect. I never lost track or something, no jitter or lag of the controllers or the hmd.