Gamers Nexus told me I needed this... so here it is!

Gamers Nexus said I needed to check out the EKWB Loophole! But how should I use this $490 distro plate and pump res combo?!
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[@GamersNexus]

Hyyyyype!!! This is everything I wanted hahaha. You have more patience than I do for these kinds of projects. Looking forward to seeing this in a case!

[@TheScyy]

Thanks Steve.

[@802Garage]

You can literally see it!

[@StoneXue]

Definitely

[@pronstorestiffi]

Poppa is here

[@KathosV]

He's gotta show us young'ins how to do it!

[@Monique-iz8lp]

Before watching the video, I had no idea what practical use there could possibly be for this thing. After watching the video, I'm pretty sure there's none.

[@johndegnan5703]

I totally agree. Completely unnecessary expense.

[@The_Funguseater]

@@johndegnan5703 like %99 of modern PC builds

[@Riddler290]

I mean you could….. yep no idea

[@chillhour6155]

Slap some RGB on anything and it would sell

[@Talezi1]

some coloured sleeves with that +50$

[@LockonX105]

They say 32 options, and what I hear is "32 possible points of failure."

[@endlosschleife]

But at least you know where those are 😅

[@jimmycakes12]

You the kinda dude that looks a 10 million dollar house and goes who's gonna clean that

[@kurtwinter4422]

Thirty three - the entire device as well

[@rustler08]

So, what you do is put this inside of an even bigger reservoir.

[@endlosschleife]

@@jimmycakes12 As a German, that would be me.

[@59hemikiller]

seeing the gamers nexus video on ek today made me think about the opening quote of "nevermind the condition ek sent them to me in." i dont think these are guna leave their inventory anytime soon...

[@SaraMorgan-ym6ue]

so what's the difference between torque and horse power?🤔

[@zenosfire]

It would look cool in a duel loop system, have different coloured fluids, and have them crossing into each others distro thing. Dont know how well they'd show up through the tubes and liquid, but might be a neat idea

[@PBaka13]

If he did one clear and one a dark color would probably sort of work.

[@italianbasegard]

Duel loop system! 🔫🔫🔫

[@AriManPad8gi]

who are they fighting?

[@accursedpanda]

This was my first thought, too. Depending on colors and their opacity there could be some really interesting combinations. Experimenting with different combinations would be a lot of fun. Like, would running a tube of blue through a block of yellow make the tube look green? Or what happens when you run a tube of Mystic Fog through a reservoir of (see through) color? And those are just a couple initial ideas.

[@sirmonkey1985]

some kind of red vs blue where they both cross over between the manifolds multiple times would be cool.

[@djbiscuit1818]

0:21 oddly prophetic, given the recent news

[@SaraMorgan-ym6ue]

the box is a little damaged it's still good it's still good

[@allgrainbrewer10]

@@SaraMorgan-ym6ue and EK still sucks.

[@Patric-Kole]

If you build a loop inside of the res, then run sub ambient coolant through it, you could use it as a heat exchanger!

[@scootersfrog]

this needs explored lol

[@earthtaurus5515]

Yes, you could but you also need something to remove that heat and since it's going inside a PC... the only place that heat is going is the surrounding so you'd end up higher ambient temps lol. Unless you have ducting through a wall or something lol...

[@brendanlee4444]

@@earthtaurus5515 I hear pools are good for that.........

[@goktug3]

So is that sub ambient coolant in the room with us right now?

[@Nareimooncatt]

Doubt it would be effective unless you were using crazy cold coolant. With pipes that large and runs that short the amount of surface area available to carry out the exchange is minimal.

[@alexanderalejo5708]

Make all the inner tube run as the component loop. Then cool the outer liquid with its own loop. That's why Steve said, water cool the water cooler.

[@anthonyholmes5965]

I’m a pipe fitter and push lock fittings work fine I use them all the time. Just make sure you don’t have a super sharp edge so it doesn’t cut the o-ring.

[@sathos]

Yup, especially when, as Jay said - the pump is low pressure high flow. If anything were to take out one of those fittings it would be a pressure build up which is mega unlikely.

[@ledoynier3694]

they are not push lock i believe, just two orings queezing the tube with no physical lock. But yea, the D5 and DDC have nowhere enough pressure to make one of those come out.

[@Groovewonder2]

Idea: if you're using two of these, use one on the gpu loop and one on the cpu loop. use copper tubing inside the reservoir as a heat exchanger between the two loops. Connect one of the outputs from one into the array of copper tubes in the other. That way, if one loop gets too hot and has to spool up, the other takes on some of the heat. You'd have to use the topmost center input ports, so it would probably be best to use glass tubing to minimize air ingress as water would slowly leave through plastic tubes (to prevent air getting mixed down into the loops), but it would look sick as hell. Is it ludicrous overkill? Sure. That's part of the fun though. EDIT: this might actually make the individual loops easier to do depending on the cases fan mounts. The cpu loop could be on the back, with the radiator IO towards the back, and the GPU could be on the front, completely avoiding the area where the CPU loop parts would go. Then you could have that go-between fit right in the middle between the two.

[@noba4696]

uhh nice idea, I second this.

[@alexdrockhound9497]

could even solder on some fins to the copper tubing to increase heat transfer.

[@Rangerthelonewolf]

These ideas are worth testing. Would be good to do the stand clear tube test. Get baselines. Then do the copper tubing and/or copper tubing with fins.

[@Groovewonder2]

@@Rangerthelonewolf Linus already did something like this but on a MUCH bigger scale. They did a wholeass heat exchanger block in a custom desk PC for some minecraft youtuber/streamer person with a huge manifold of copper tubes between the loops. It's the "$100k gaming pc" or something like that if you wanna look it up.

[@LarsDJ]

Just stop... run a full loop then

[@KrashyKharma]

Funny watching this after the release of Steve's EK takedown 😬

[@Alex-zi1nb]

Falcon northwest still making fragboxes makes me so happy. Back in the mid 2000s as a diehard maximumpc reader it was my dream to own one, always seeing their ads. And now I still can!

[@GearsScrewlose]

Hmmm 2 loops different colors. Have the opposite color going into reservoir would look cool.

[@SaraMorgan-ym6ue]

does not work if they are mixing with each other though🤣🤣 you'll figure it out when your like why are both loops changing to the same color? and be like oh🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬

[@davidcsokasy5451]

@Jayztwocents engineering nerd tip. That distribution plate sort of works like a tube and shell heat exchanger. The benefit of using this is that you cool the water mid loop before it reaches the next component. Tube and shell heat exchangers operate at maximum efficiency when the cooling water, and the water being cooled flow in opposite directions. So any loop segments routed internally should flow in closer to the pump suction, and flow out further away from the pump suction to get the maximum cooling effect. It would be great to see you discuss this in a future video, and implement this concept into your build to the maximum practical extent. I'm excited to see how the build turns out, and am a big fan of both you and @GamersNexus!

[@wheelerthree]

that only works if the tubing you use has good thermal transfer. acrylic wouldn't work for that. This is just for show. Something made with purpose would have been made with copper tubing and directed flow channels where there was a clearly marked chilled side and hot side.

[@Vinsend82]

Phanteks NV9 White, if you want a white and black water build. Im using the nv9 case myself.

[@albinoitj]

Take off the fittings that are blocked due to internal tubing and put rgb lights in them. You can sync them to indicate the hot/cold water and/or cpu/gpu. As well as pulsating the flow orientation.

[@The_derw90]

500$ before tax for this plate without fittings is absolutely insane.. Who buys this??

[@sirmonkey1985]

no one that's using it for a practical build.. definitely something aimed more at the exhibition/display custom build at shows type stuff.

[@jacobnewland7896]

Enthusiast

[@MrVidification]

The easily led hobbyist with plenty of disposable cash

[@firesurfer]

People who sold their 3080 for a 4090.

[@DevilsHope]

As for case: How about the Lian Li V3000+? Go big or go home.

[@james...cardinal]

build in the green neighborhood power box by the sidewalk

[@fuzzylumpkins6034]

A fish tank. Then the 32 points of failure would make sense. Scuba Steve would love it

[@dagsjermicuks8641]

Use them in the Phanteks NV9 🤘🏻

[@Triaxx2]

Couple options: 4 vertical tubes in two different coolant colors running vertically through clear coolant. Then you can use white colored RGB fans to provide glow. Second, use short straight pipes and plug into the two port sets. Then alternate the colored coolants between tubes.

[@akmarksman]

Someone at EK was being a troll, and the CEO said "bet? put it in production.."

[@-eMpTy-]

The Thermaltake CTE E600 MX would be a cool case for this as it fits up to 3x 140s in the back 👍

[@st0rmtro0per]

Nv9 case. Huge and plenty of room to work and full glass to show it off.

[@jamesborda]

Got to be an Inwin case. Also you can have 2 different colour loops with the internal tubes being different to the filled liquid

[@AB-80X]

In win 915 would be fun

[@Minivan3023]

You can use this in a dual loop set up where each loop is a different color and fill this block with one color and pipe the other color through the block so you can see it going through. Maybe clear yellow in the block and blue in the pipe throughs so you see green piping through.

[@michaelmiller3012]

Use glass tubing - you can buy 12mm OD borosilicate glass tubes with 90-degree bends - also, you'll know if any of the fittings leak because the colors will blend

[@Dre_Key]

Like this idea I hope he tries it

[@apsims12]

Case idea: Phanteks NV9 It would be interesting to see considering that Bykski have a distro/pump specifically designed for the NV7. Although what would be really interesting is have 2 loops (contrasting colours) where the loops go into the opposite distro plates!

[@ICERNK]

Great idea! Also vote for nv9... 🤞

[@axelgenus]

I love the collabs and challenges among tech channels. ❤

[@DFX2KX]

This reminds me of an old Numberphile episode on the Enigma machine, with the plugbank on the front for that extra scrambling..... it is uttering ridiculous and I love it.

[@superduperbeans1234]

Phanteks NV9 with the double loop could be sick

[@MultiPristy]

Hey Jay, you wanted to build in the Phanteks NV9 , maybe you can use that case here.

[@danc8097]

@JayzTwoCents you can open the pump and solder a 4 pin PWM fan wire to the pump. You just have to be careful that the pump doesn't pull more amperage than the motherboard can handle.

[@rdl805rc8]

Use a case where you can have one in the front, one in the back. Create unnecessary loopage and have different colors for CPU and GPU. Non-opague coolant but 2 different colors so you can see the other color within each resevoir.

[@MikeNovelli]

When are you going to watercool your favorite KZbinr?

[@Mr.Morden]

Linus just did that with the bidet.

[@AB-80X]

That sounds so wrong on so many levels…

[@hsensei]

aged like milk

[@ProgramKiraTV]

Got an ek240 aio hearing constantly how high quality they are designed and in my opinion have a very nice sleek aesthetic.

[@MidgetMalone]

As a diesel mechanic, I agree, compression fittings. Push ins will fail. Just a matter of when.

[@SaraMorgan-ym6ue]

depends on the pressure the higher the pressure the sooner it will fail💀💀

[@Lumi-OF-Model]

Maybe that was ups, fedex, or usps fault

[@ryandann9362]

Both boxes were likely shipped in another box, possibly with their own padding. The out box probably had no damage. This made Jay come to the conclusion the box was packed damaged and did not happen from shipping. Otherwise, since Jay does not seem like a moron, he would know it was damaged in shipping, and not make the comment about it in the first place. Or you know, it was damaged in shipping, and in that case you're saying Jay is a moron who can't figure that out, and assumes it was the company's fault and not damaged in shipping.

[@user-vsmsdos]

This is pretty dope and the possibilities are quite versatile. EK makes some neato stuff. Also, use it in the NV9

[@AB-80X]

Exactly what makes that thing neat? In all my years doing water cooling, I have never needed that, and I never will.

[@user-vsmsdos]

@@AB-80X Watercool inception bro. Tubing in the front waterfall in the back! all contained! You could even do a loop with different colors in the tubing and the waterfall in the back could be on a different loop and be a cool contrast of colors. There's a lot of possiblity with this.

[@mclovin9848]

I like the new thumbnail style, keep up the good work guys.

[@LennertWanders]

ok, idea. I have been looking at this and have been thinking about building my own case with this. (I don't have the skills nor the money to do now) but you can :) Use an old case for form factor and make it a piece of designer furniture, but still showcasing the watercooled build with the block as the main scene :)

[@cheex18]

This video didn't age well.... super awkward watching this AFTER the EK fallout.

[@21stcenturypleb]

Maybe that was ups, fedex, or usps fault?

[@pederb82]

Of course it is. It’s the us.

[@AB-80X]

When something is that small, it is easy for the sender to pack it. They know how it is treated. That was on EK.

[@NEWSNINJA3]

I could see this being really cool with a duel loop and different color coolant. You could have the reservoir be red coolant and have blue flow through it giving a real freaky look. Or something along those lines.

[@Wiger1988]

The order of operations is important. With the way those 90s are attached you could insert your the tubes first and then screw both sides in the distro plate.

[@ChristianBelotti]

Like if you watch this video after the ek scandal 😢

[@JoannaHammond]

This video didn't survive long.

[@Black_SwanNL]

Would be awesome if you use two plates as you are planning to do. But here comes the kicker: dual loop. One plate holds the liquid for the loop and the other plate contains the pipes for that loop. This means you could do a 2 color loop. Example: having a purple reservoir liquid with green liquid in the tubes inside the reservoir and the other one would be the other way around. So many options, so many headaches.

[@af0ulwind115]

I think you should use the two of those as the ends of your case and build copper tubing runs between them as the frame of your custom built case....

[@MjolnirFeaw]

Steve was right: Jay is the right guy for the job. As for the "two of them in one case", I'd go for a dual-system case (can't remember the name of these) and go all-out on the visual difference. The distro/reservoir are black and silver, instead of matching color ? That's not a bug, that's a feature... if you build two loops, and make them visually distinct with different fittings, different cooolant and so on.

[@mattburke4343]

for a Case you should use a Hyte Y70t. tons of glass to showcase from many different angles. The 45 degree double corner for an added element "Showyness", you can run a loop in between the displays in the 45 degree corner to either the Vertical GPU or to the CPU.

[@dking1981]

Im looking forward to seeing the insane build that Yall use it in.

[@edwardeddington1555]

im glad to see jay and gamersnexus have a good relation the only two tech reviewers i even care to watch

[@Jagerbomber2468]

ThermalTake P8 TG massive case ample room and looks sick with the sides taken off and just having an open case. That's how I run mine

[@codemaster001]

A dual loop with the runs passing through the other loops resivour would look pretty cool. Have them different colors too.

[@Niflheimrr_EL]

This feels like its best use would be as a key to mak another distro plate.

[@virophage41]

2 of those would be nice for car build, make them as cylinder heads for a v-engine

[@selectthedead]

When you use two of these and clear tubes, how about using different dyes and let the loops "cross" so you get a color mix. Let the colored water from the first reservoir flow through the internal loop of the other and visa versa.

[@nsday1]

~10:30 in, you're talking about the fittings not having any sort of clamping ability like external ones. It's not like you need to worry about them leaking at all. :)

[@oz5150]

Great video man! and Case I think you should use the new Hyate Y70 Touch.

[@MBUncle]

FINALLY!! This community is awesome.

[@thereddog223]

Thanks Steve

[@ChinchillaBONK]

Who would use all of this and spend thatuch crazy money? Steve : I know exactly someone who fell through that custom loop rabbit hole.

[@quikspecv4d]

A two loop system would look super cool with two of these. Have one color loop red and the other blue but transparent colored. Then run each loop through each block so the tubes inside the blocks would look purple

[@Minivan3023]

Had the same idea. I had yellow and blue in mind to make green

[@arieshydragaming3334]

I keep seeing people suggest this idea, but it would only work for a few minutes. After the coolant circulates back into the reservoirs, it will have been mixed. How do you plan to separate the mixed colors?

[@quikspecv4d]

@@arieshydragaming3334 it would be two separate loops with separate pumps so no mixing

[@EmBravo]

Jay, it would be interesting for you to go really obscure with the build with one distro plate for the cpu and gpu, which is transferring the heat of these components to the other distroplate with just radiators. It would be interesting to see how much heat can be removed from the loop by just fitting and cables inside of the reservoir combo.

[@frederickpolk]

Hey Jay & team, the case I would like for to see you use for these Loop Hole products is the EK-Quantum InWin 977EK. Thanks for the video!

[@Akimori91]

Regardless of what EKWB offers, if it's acrylic. Expect cracks when used for a short period of time due to thermal expansion.

[@DasBreen]

Use them in conjunction with the Singularity quad 560 radiator waterboxes!! Have one desk for the computer and watercooling, and a second for the monitor setup.

[@McShimi]

This would be awesome to use in a build with two of these distro plates, but run them as to serperate loops with different colours and have them run through each other, so you get like pink tubes in a blue reservoir and blue tubes in the pink res.

[@SideBurn12]

O11 Dynamic Evo, of course! Its just an awesome case, even if its been out a while and its incredibly common.

[@AB-80X]

Booooooriing!!!!

[@blueovalOdell]

I’m ready to see this build

[@puddlejumper6999]

this would be cool for a showoff kind of build. with 2 of em you could have 2 independent loops with different color coolants running through. like one loop for CPU and the other for GPU where loop 1 can run through internal routing through manifold 2 and vise versa kinda like the umbrella corp virus tubes.

[@5150Failure]

jay you should do a twin loop with these. one loop being as an example blue and the other red. have one loop a going through loop b's block

[@terrycook2733]

Falcon northwest would have a nice lineup of a OG-Oversized case for a full motherboard cooling block build with a big space for reservoir custom wide diameter tubed watercooling for just board itself. The gpu can be optional in the air cooling or waterblock addition.

[@carwynvan]

If you have all things feeding into this at sections of the loop it might help temps by acting as a heat exchanger. Hot out from CPU passing through the cold reservoir

[@fs9553]

Next step EK is going to make a case with holes. Your case becomes a reservoir with inlet/outlet points.

[@baddayguygaming]

Using two of these in 2 separate loops with different fluid colors that pass through the other colors blocks would be interesting. Such as a Yellow loop in one with a Blue loop in the other so you get a Green look inside the blocks where the one loop passes through the other.

[@Lanka0Kera]

Build double system with double loops that go through each other's reservoir. Then have different color liquids. Product would make more sense if it was sectors of holes and plexiglass+o-ring inserts that are positioned & screwed sandwiched inside the reservoir. Less holes, less fittings, factory finished inserts instead of user erroring pipe bending. Could probably get RGB leds inside the fitted parts through unused holes. And about 500 dollar less of expensive special fittings.

[@Papamax45]

2 in a build but separate loops with different colours so you could have one loop pass through inside the manifold of the other

[@zbishop90]

Thanks, Steve.

[@alt5494]

Copper tubes running into the reservoir from another reservoir. filled with ice water made by a EK TEC cooling block would be a sick build.

[@ldgilman]

This would fit perfectly in my Thermaltake View 51

[@HowDidThisHappenNow]

The Be Quiet Case you reviewed not long ago sounds like good pick

[@dside_ru]

Oh god, a watercooling breadboard

[@snaplash]

I guess you could have the returns at the top, cascading over water wheels, tipping buckets, etc.

[@hudsonreynolds4349]

I put a thicc 480mm rad with push pull EK fans on the front of a Phanteks Enthoo Pro 2 and a 240mm rad on top. The original plan was too cool both cpu and gpu with this big loop but it was back when gpu's were impossible to get. I ended up getting a watercooled 6900xt from asus with its own 240 or 280 rad. Luckily my case had space for all 3 radiators, and 6 HDD cages as well. I love that computer. I will probably be building out of that same case, using the same EK hardware, for many many years. Can't wait to see what you build with this wild and wacky cooling hardware!

[@u1ti]

It’s been many a decade since I last heard the “yo dawg, I heard you like x” meme

[@OctagonalSquare]

Oooh, if you had two loops that don’t connect (say for a GPU and CPU) you could use the reservoir for one with a transparent color and then do several tubes inside with like a glitter color additive. Then you get lines of one color running through your other color. Could look neat

[@arkd1711]

Jay .... need to see this in a Mountain Mods case! You know you wanna do it.

[@datsuchti7729]

I think it could be interesting with two as you could do 2 different colours next to each other one being routed through the others reservoir

[@Wyd4]

Could do some cool stuff with dual loops in this with different coloured fluids etc. Using the manifold as a res for one loop and the internal runs for the other.

[@ckwi2245]

Based on the video I'm pretty sure it'd work, but testing may disagree. When fitting/measuring the internal tubing, do the start like you did, fittings inside in place, then take both fittings out when you place the tube into the fittings, then put the fittings with the tubing already connected back in. Since the low profile fittings appear to tighten independently of the connection point quite easily. This should allow you to get a tighter fit to compensate for the loss of a compression connection. Should be able to get the extra mm or 2 you likely lose due to needing some manipulation space.

[@jr23design10]

We do have a compression fitting small enough to fit inside the distro, it's in your hand at 11:47

[@rysterstech]

Surely the development of this water block when EK was is good financial status.

[@ChrisVannatter]

Put your tube connectors on the tubes before installing the tubing. Fit your tubing to the 90 degree fittings, and use your "non compression fittings to lock the seal per tightening. Those fittings seal by bringing the tubing into the threads of the connection.

[@shawnjb1989]

I had to do a lot of custom grinding and hacking to my Cooler Master Cosmos c700m and the included gpu mount to fit two 60mm 360 radiators and retain my optical drive as well as an elgota capture card and usb card, but it came out wonderful

[@MsTatakai]

that unique design doesnt need to be tubes fit with pressure and stuff... because vacuum from the pump it will make the tubes compress in the fittings making it well fit without too much effort and its a really interesting design to be honest

[@JWSC2024]

V3000+ rotated layout you have rear distro and front distro

[@davidle7864]

I would think you could use it by connecting components in parallel i.e. multiple outs (or split after the outlet using T fittings) to each component then each component returns to a separate inlet port

[@boges11]

Thermaltake The Tower 900. I have one and it is awesome.

[@donnerbart_]

With two blocks/loops, use one with clear water and the other with an intense color. And then run the color tubing through the clear water block.