An Old & Dying Valentia in Caesar 3 | The City Building Doctor

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GamerZakh

GamerZakh

7 жыл бұрын

Map submitted by Nekromanus - Valentia - Caesar III - Want to buy Caesar 3 (or other games) AND support this channel? Use this GOG referral link! af.gog.com/game/caesar_3?as=1...
WARNING! I fail to save this city. Lots to learn about how an old city begins to suffer though!
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@GamerZakh
@GamerZakh 7 жыл бұрын
Although I strive to save every patient, you can't stop old age. This is one that I failed to save but there is a lot to learn when it comes to how population works and the consequences of taking too long in these old city-builders. On the other hand, check out that new animated logo! I made that. Cool right? Yes, I thought so. Want to buy Caesar 3 (or other games) AND support this channel? Use this GOG referral link! af.gog.com/game/caesar_3?as=1715648857
@trullettoable
@trullettoable 7 жыл бұрын
If city health is average, people under 50 won't get ill, but they will rapidly die once they get old. Which in practice means there's basically no negative aging. It also prevents ghosts!
@GamerZakh
@GamerZakh 7 жыл бұрын
So it's actually beneficial to not be too healthy? I didn't consider that haha.
@viktorraichev1306
@viktorraichev1306 7 жыл бұрын
but, but... Why won't you replay :/ ;( Master
@GamerZakh
@GamerZakh 7 жыл бұрын
As in replay the map? Because I already beat it on my channel.
@viktorraichev1306
@viktorraichev1306 7 жыл бұрын
Reply* But I myself did not read everything right, so I got a wrong idea of what you said. Nevermind :D Still - tyou are epic, keep it up ! Caesar ! I gave on top links of explanations for the health method.
@Simo.Andreev
@Simo.Andreev 6 жыл бұрын
4:15 > Homeless old man: "I've been thrown out of my home!" > Gamer Zakh: "Hehehe" :D
@blun7m4n85
@blun7m4n85 3 жыл бұрын
I guess the old men had the last laugh....
@orlestone
@orlestone 4 жыл бұрын
About 3 years late to this Zakh, but a couple of things stand out. Bigger blocks work better in big cities - less employment required. The 9x9 is too inefficient, and also traps some houses as 1x1's which demand more resources, and harm prosperity. Big blocks at all 2x2 both reduce employment requirements and increase prosperity. In a decently set up food supply process, a wheat farm should feed about 300 people, and a fish wharf about 500. I counted about 60 wheat farms and 10 wharves - good enough to feed about 23000, but a huge drag on employment. The map has too much food production, and not enough distribution. Also the resources needed to evolve to palaces don't change whether you have 4 or 8. Go large. On the basis of these points I agree with the "start it again" viewpoint :)
@91sac
@91sac 7 жыл бұрын
Zakh, I'd just like to say how amazing i think it is that you are keeping this great game alive almost two decades after its release. You are a very skilled player, and I always learn a lot from your videos. I have watched quite a few, and I've been getter a little better every time. Keep it up, man! Greetings from Brazil!
@GamerZakh
@GamerZakh 7 жыл бұрын
Thank you! Glad you like the videos and find them useful!
@91sac
@91sac 7 жыл бұрын
Just out of curiosity, where are you from?
@GamerZakh
@GamerZakh 7 жыл бұрын
I'm from and still living in Malaysia.
@MelodiaTodoElDia
@MelodiaTodoElDia 4 жыл бұрын
I agree with you. I started playing again and I was not understanding how to do anything at all. Thanks to Zack I am now on Miletus and pretty confident about my abilitiy to solve problems if they appear. Infinite thanks!!
@KaplaBen
@KaplaBen 7 жыл бұрын
4:16 most evil laugh ever
@Dilios_of_Sparta
@Dilios_of_Sparta 7 жыл бұрын
GamerZakh, I've watched all of your old Caesar III videos, and I just recently subscribed. I am so glad to see you still playing this game. Excellent videos--I've learned a lot from your city-planning strategies for this great PC title!
@GamerZakh
@GamerZakh 7 жыл бұрын
Hi! Welcome! Glad you like the videos. I recently came up with 'City-building Doctor' as a format so I could keep playing Caesar III on the channel haha. I'm still not done with Pharaoh, Zeus, or Emperor either. They make really slow progress.
@Der_Moosenheimmannchesterton
@Der_Moosenheimmannchesterton 7 жыл бұрын
Soo essentially most of my cities have become collapsing retirement homes.
@GamerZakh
@GamerZakh 7 жыл бұрын
Yup, which why so many people get confused why the game seems to get impossible after playing for a while.
@JPy90
@JPy90 10 ай бұрын
dude, at this point I have to recognized that you are way better than me. Kicking the fountaing for restableshing citizen is the most genius and clever messure ever seen.
@GamerZakh
@GamerZakh 10 ай бұрын
Well I've been playing this game on and off for like 2 decades now haha, you learn some tricks in that time.
@auronlightsgaming3729
@auronlightsgaming3729 7 жыл бұрын
Going through a C3 binge on your channel and I noticed this: 8:40 ......did you just explain the effect on the heart excess weight can cause? You really are a doctor!
@Grumpygameviews
@Grumpygameviews 2 жыл бұрын
Every time I watch your Caesar 3 videos I learn something new. Thanks for keeping these types of games alive
@ritesharora6032
@ritesharora6032 7 жыл бұрын
Your city falling apart? Nothing's working? Your people hate you? Submit your map to the City-building Doctor series and let GamerZakh cure your city ...looks like TV advertisement...funny lol.
@GamerZakh
@GamerZakh 7 жыл бұрын
Haha yes, I wrote it as such.
@RollerCoaster233
@RollerCoaster233 7 жыл бұрын
Cool animated logo! I really enjoyed this City Building Doctor Episode. I had always wondered why at around 60 years or so my work force always took a huge hit. Now I know. I can't tell you how many maps I replayed because of employment issues. I looked for a solution all over the internet at all the Caesar 3 message boards to no avail. No one seemed to know why employment would out of no where drop by over 300 employees as people were still moving in and no one was moving out. So thank you for finally giving me an answer.
@GamerZakh
@GamerZakh 7 жыл бұрын
Glad I could help! It's something I only recently fully grasped myself.
@dude849
@dude849 7 жыл бұрын
now this is something new! Had no idea people aged in Caesar 3. Now you made me reinstall.... :D
@TSpoon823
@TSpoon823 7 жыл бұрын
This is a pretty cool series you're doing. I've gotten back into C3 over the last year or so. The nostalgia from my childhood is too real. I've learned a lot from videos and heavengames as well. When you opened up this map, I immediately thought about city health, as others have mentioned. Just don't let people stay alive too long haha. It's be interesting to see you do a reboot of C3 someday with new knowledge and strategies. Good stuff though.
@GamerZakh
@GamerZakh 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks! Glad you found it useful! I have thought of doing C3 again with the widescreen mod but I really don't want to make something that's too similar to the first series. Maybe I'll figure something out.
@FluteGamerSouzaLima
@FluteGamerSouzaLima 7 жыл бұрын
What nostalgic these vídeos of Caesar 3 that you were putting on you tube in 2012 and 2013, nostalgic! Hugs Gamerzack
@GamerZakh
@GamerZakh 7 жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoy them!
@bolchinsky
@bolchinsky Жыл бұрын
two population resets through deleting and replacing reservoirs, maybe could have saved it, great vid!
@JaderPintoSantos
@JaderPintoSantos 7 жыл бұрын
Press the key 'T' whenever you need to check if the building has any Troubles (employee shortage, water coverage, etc etc)
@GamerZakh
@GamerZakh 7 жыл бұрын
I really should learn those hotkeys haha.
@o0oSM00THo0o
@o0oSM00THo0o 7 жыл бұрын
Looks like you put the supply area for the villa district a couple tiles too far away from the housing area. From my experience this can make a difference from a 100% stable area to "sometimes devolving" areas. If you look at distance from where you put the markets down to where the pottery warehouse(farthest away) is, that's quite a distance.
@GamerZakh
@GamerZakh 7 жыл бұрын
Yeah that's true, I should've brought it a bit closer.
@danubioseneolitic8668
@danubioseneolitic8668 7 жыл бұрын
Come on Necromanus let us to save the "old and dying Valentia". :) Is the most intriguing thing in the world.
@japsnaper
@japsnaper 7 жыл бұрын
Doctor, the problem is not the old getting older, the problem is the gap between generations. You have a baby boom followed by a reproductive winter problem (basically every industrialized nations deal with that) At 11:45, on the graph, the population between 10-20 is almost empty, whereas 30-40 is over-represented. Killing the population won't help because you also kill active workforce, you never know what's the real repartition of the population you're killing, and you forget the fact that houses are filled up overtime. As for exemple, if you kill the very first block after having spent 50 years and having very few old people in your city, that very first block may be the block with the most active workers, because mostly of the filling delay and the huge mortality rate due the bad conditions (no food for a long time) you gave them early When I faced that problem in caesar, the best solution I found was to carry on growing the city steadily, preferentially by cycle for every major improvements avoiding gaps in growth. Valentia can definitely support a huge pop but I think the goal here is to reach the point of self-regeneration of the workforce. In your situation, growing the city up to 15000 people over 20 years would solve the problem of the lack of population growth in the last 20 years
@fatman3785
@fatman3785 7 жыл бұрын
If you can feed the extra people, deal with unemployment by spamming fountains
@fun2wotml516
@fun2wotml516 6 жыл бұрын
atleast you give your best I still want to watch more
@81Heino
@81Heino 3 жыл бұрын
I've finished all 11 missions-levels many times. But never cared about the age of my citizens. Everytime I learn something new about this game.
@GamerZakh
@GamerZakh 3 жыл бұрын
Usually it's not an issue because you can win before your citizens get too old, but if you're building a permanent city it can collapse after 30-40 years. It's more of an issue in Pharaoh because it can sometimes take that long to build the monuments.
@aemelivsavrelivs5420
@aemelivsavrelivs5420 6 жыл бұрын
Just a suggestion you could have also build oracles. Oracles are the best investment as they dont need a workforce just maintenance but add to culture, appease gods, tend to 500 population and improve desirability. Only criterion is to afford marble they are damn expensive.
@gnexus01
@gnexus01 6 жыл бұрын
I wouldn't mind giving this city a try. I'm pretty good stable Palace blocks. 1 Luxury Palace block would of more than pushed you over the edge for the prosperity. I think I could fix it.
@aemelivsavrelivs5420
@aemelivsavrelivs5420 6 жыл бұрын
@GamerZakh I have a Question. In the discussed map using the same 9*9 block system how do I evolve large insulae to grand insulae using theatre+colloseum rather than theatre amphitheatre combination?
@dianasaleh8605
@dianasaleh8605 7 жыл бұрын
The last 20 minutes of the video focusing on the palace area and the stupid markets, shows some of the more annoying parts of C3 that always bothered me...
@arnoldlardizabal8443
@arnoldlardizabal8443 7 жыл бұрын
it will show only that you need to make 2 basic markets each granary in one certain place.
@gnexus01
@gnexus01 6 жыл бұрын
I think it's because the Market lady was looking for Wheat. It's the 1st preffered food. If you don't have nearby acess, it causes all sorts of problems. Also the pottery could of been closer.
@Frostgaming335
@Frostgaming335 4 жыл бұрын
Maybe you can stop water economy and safe engeniers+prefectures for struggle your old people and run away and after that resume normal water ? Could it work? Sorry for my eng. You are awesome, thank you sir :)
@SC0RPY0N
@SC0RPY0N 4 жыл бұрын
Hey GamerZakh ! I just found this video after 2 years, because I started to play Caesar 3 again this week. I think you can still save this city. What you do it wrong is that you have 7 palaces at 15k population. When you said "I had finished this map with 7 palaces, so can be enough" you forgot that when you played yourself maybe your population was 6000 or 7000. The prosperity rating is overall. So if you have more small casa, you need more palaces to compensate. Will be nice if you still have this save file and maybe try again with this suggestion. This is a good idea for a new video on your channel :)
@GamerZakh
@GamerZakh 4 жыл бұрын
Ah you commented here too haha. Just letting you know I read everywhere, so you don't need to copy to multiple platforms. I replied you on facebook.
@bearllande
@bearllande 5 жыл бұрын
i wonder if majority of the oldest people could be found in the first 3 neighborhoods you've built. would i be better to devolve those than just random neighborhoods...?
@o0oSM00THo0o
@o0oSM00THo0o 7 жыл бұрын
Is it possible to basically "out-last" the cycle so old people die and young people grow back up to get a population majority of working age people again?
@GamerZakh
@GamerZakh 7 жыл бұрын
Yes but as I noticed, the birth rate doesn't match the 'hump' from immigration. What would be needed is to reduce the health of the city so old people die faster haha. Something I didn't consider.
@rafaelbogdan9307
@rafaelbogdan9307 5 жыл бұрын
It's theoretically possible*, even with top notch health coverage, if you very carefully manage your production (not making more of anything than you need), create more worker-efficient housing blocks (I believe 48 road tile loops are rock solid in caesar 3?) and especially manage to live off patrician taxes for money. Even then, if people reach 100 years old the engine can't handle killing them off, so they remain as ghosts, and if enough show up the city will fail again. This is a matter of hundreds if not thousands of in-game years even at the highest levels of city health, though.
@MelodiaTodoElDia
@MelodiaTodoElDia 4 жыл бұрын
So, a few things: 1. I've been starting a map, doing things randomly and seeing how it plays out. After a while I've been restarting it and then planning everything. Is that cheating?😅 2. I heard you say in one of the very first videos I saw of you that we should avoid intersections. So, I've taken that very seriously and what I've been doing has been creating areas of work and just one or two areas of houses. These ones get everything by cart pushers un warehouses and I evolve them as much as the map allows Chile the areas working might not even get as much as water. When everything looks okay and I'm just population short from winning, I create a big line of houses (they don't even get food) and I meet the target population. Do you think this will stop working as I advance on the campaign? I'm just on Miletus now. 3. I've managed without gatehouses (basically because they weren't available) and now I'm a little bit reticent about using them. Do you think it's going to be impossible to win the next maps without them? Thank you so much for your videos, your tips, your advice and your little tricks. They're making me love this game much more than I did when I was young and had no idea what I was doing😅 Like I would say in Spanish (my first language): ¡eres un crack!
@IgorWelkenbach
@IgorWelkenbach 7 жыл бұрын
Zakh I first got into Caesar 3 by watching KarlitoGamer's (LaViejaEscuela del PC) excellent's spanish playthrough, just now managing to win it on Very Hard, thanks to your wharehouse on "getting" tip and the use of statues to prevent villas devolving to buildings all over the place, thanks! (Darn prosperity!) Whats ur opinion on both CAesar and C2, now on GOG?
@Sebastian_Gecko
@Sebastian_Gecko Жыл бұрын
As far as I can tell, all he had to do to rise prosperity faster was increasing wages to 8 above Rome's and crank up taxes to make more money once the palace area was established.
@nandi0821
@nandi0821 7 жыл бұрын
Hi I think u could solve the problem if u just delete all water for residents simultanously, and set the working priority to prefectures and engineers 1-2 top prior. . Also u should just stop exporting . There will be enough work force for prevent buildings get fire and demolition for the period all the kicked out ppl run out from map. Than as u mentioned in your video, that all the resources will be remain in the houses and storage places. Finaly food and industry should set to last prior for workforce distribution because than the houses would have the resources for developing and the new workforce will fill up the empty service buildings. Just make sure u dont have academies and extra staff that doesn'T necesary for houses to developing. :)
@GamerZakh
@GamerZakh 7 жыл бұрын
That should work yes. I'll give that a shot next time I need to purge a city.
@terminatorvzla3290
@terminatorvzla3290 3 жыл бұрын
In the time of one hour and 47 minutes, 1h: 47m, once you have achieved 63 prosperity, you were able to stop some industries because you had enough money to hold out before going into default and with that, leveling unemployment, even obtaining the need for employees and placing everything needed to get to culture points and win, all by slowing down time
@newygreek
@newygreek 7 жыл бұрын
Hey dude, what software are you using for the face on top recording?
@GamerZakh
@GamerZakh 7 жыл бұрын
I'm using OBS, it's free.
@caesarzx
@caesarzx 7 жыл бұрын
Wonderful logo.
@GamerZakh
@GamerZakh 7 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@markcole9640
@markcole9640 5 жыл бұрын
This was my first game, & I have found myself watching these videos for longer than is really healthy. At the moment I only have a Chromebook, but if I get myself another PC / Mac, would I be able to play this game again, or do I need to get myself an older machine?
@GamerZakh
@GamerZakh 5 жыл бұрын
Glad you're enjoying the videos! You should be able to run this game on any PC you have right now though I've never used a Chromebook before. Since it's a really old game it wouldn't be about PC power as phones could run this today. You'll just need to be on Windows 7, 8, or 10 and you can buy it from GOG.com where it's made most compatible for modern PCs.
@MaegnasMw
@MaegnasMw 3 жыл бұрын
Mark Cole, the GOG version runs on almost anything these days, even 10-year old systems with a somewhat new OS can handle it (it lists its memory requirements in MEGABYTES, FCS!). If you get your hands on a new, good machine though, with a high res monitor, do get the HD mod that's circulating around (if you go too high is res, you may not be able to read some things but it looks AMAZING). Sadly, no HD or wide screen mo for Augustus yet, we keep hoping though!! (Augustus is a mod, made by fans, that incorporates many changes to gameplay, I will mention only one - ROADBLOCKS!)
@olandewgamers9573
@olandewgamers9573 7 жыл бұрын
Hey Zakh, I want to buy Caesar III on GOG.com but it says that the walker animations don't work. Do you know where I can buy a fully-functioning bug-free Caesar III? (with scenario & map editor)?
@GamerZakh
@GamerZakh 7 жыл бұрын
Walker animations don't work? I'm using the GOG version and everything works fine.
@olandewgamers9573
@olandewgamers9573 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the reply! I went ahead and purchased it! :D
@fatman3785
@fatman3785 7 жыл бұрын
If you replaced the bottom small temple area with oracles you might free up some workers. Are you able to upload the save?
@GamerZakh
@GamerZakh 7 жыл бұрын
Temples don't take up many workers and if I delete all the temples my culture will drop, and getting culture high enough is the main challenge on this mission, it's what all the workers and needed for. It's not really mine to upload since it's sent by Nekromanus.
@zalimbunny
@zalimbunny 6 жыл бұрын
I think with your experience of the last whole year you can try solving this again???🤔🤔
@terminatorvzla3290
@terminatorvzla3290 3 жыл бұрын
En el tiempo de una hora y 47 minutos 1h:47m una ves obtenidos los 63 de prosperidad pudiste parar algunas industrias por que tenías suficiente dinero para aguantar antes de entrar en default y con eso nivelar el desempleo incluso obtener necesidad de empleados y colocar todo lo necesario para llegar a los puntos de cultura y ganar, todo relentizando el tiempo
@tH4ttUs
@tH4ttUs 4 жыл бұрын
how can you do a warehouse working without connection to street?
@GamerZakh
@GamerZakh 4 жыл бұрын
It's something that took me a long time to notice. When you set a warehouse to 'getting' something. It can get from another warehouse set to 'accepting', and the cart pusher that is getting it can go off road. It only works with warehouses, does not work with granaries.
@tushar4328
@tushar4328 4 жыл бұрын
everytime in valentia, the houses devolve due to lack of food but the production is much more, markets are sufficient, and also all other resources reaching fine, how?
@GamerZakh
@GamerZakh 4 жыл бұрын
It's hard to say without seeing it. It could be other resources are distracting your market ladies. Could be a bug. Maybe there is a road issue. Could be a problem with distribution, not storage.
@gueszka
@gueszka 7 жыл бұрын
Hi @GamerZakh, in this map (and on others as well) I have a problem i can't solve. Using this 9x9 block everything work smooth and good but after a while market (2 market for each block)ladies cant provide enough goods for the habitants, especially pottery... But pottery is there close with fully loaded warehouses...food is enough also... due to this everything collapse ... i dont have enough workers and on.... and these markets short on goods but I have enough from everything... Do you have any idea for this problem? This is really a pain in the ass for me :( Thanks, Marton Good videos though! :) I really like the way you are thinking in the videos it's very logical and clear
@GamerZakh
@GamerZakh 7 жыл бұрын
Hi! Glad you like the videos! I can't say for sure what your problem is without seeing it, but usually this is caused by the market ladies going far away to get a resource that isn't nearby. Most of the time it's because of a second type of food that's available far away and market ladies will prioritise a second type of food over pottery. In the time it takes to get that new resource, the market runs out of other things.
@Lizzaran
@Lizzaran 7 жыл бұрын
What i saw in my saved game (City in this Video :D ) is that you could have a full storehouse, but it has no workers at that time. Meaning - Ther storehouse had workers and was filled up with goods but lost the workers due to population changes or priorities. At that time your market ladies can't get the goods, because no one is working in your storehouse. Placing small huts next to them or building a new housing area may fix that problem. Still, it's difficult in my opinion. Geetings
@andrehenrique2093
@andrehenrique2093 7 жыл бұрын
No problem about the failure, all those how played the game knowns that the game is height difficult from the middle to the end.
@peppepane2772
@peppepane2772 7 жыл бұрын
GamerZakh hi, thanks for the video, today i do this mission i finish it with 12 Luxury Palace. i dont use gatehouse i dont like them if u want i can send u some picture of my city
@GamerZakh
@GamerZakh 7 жыл бұрын
Sounds awesome! You can always send me screenshots to my facebook page at facebook.com/GamerZakh
@Urza26
@Urza26 7 жыл бұрын
Good logo.
@GamerZakh
@GamerZakh 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@aliendoggy1
@aliendoggy1 7 жыл бұрын
Do you have 1080p on screen resolution?
@GamerZakh
@GamerZakh 7 жыл бұрын
Yes, the video you're watching here is set to 1080p and using the 1080p mod for Caesar 3.
@aliendoggy1
@aliendoggy1 7 жыл бұрын
Just found your Widescreen HD Mod videos :)
@DC-iy6hi
@DC-iy6hi 3 жыл бұрын
Why does he only have javelin troops? Is there a benefit to using them exclusively?
@GamerZakh
@GamerZakh 3 жыл бұрын
Javelins are faster, don't use weapons as a resource, and can lure specific enemies in the direction you want them to go without getting hit by micro and kiting. As long as invasions aren't too big or you have enough towers, javelins are more flexible.
@DC-iy6hi
@DC-iy6hi 3 жыл бұрын
@@GamerZakh right on, thanks!
@MrXeCute
@MrXeCute 5 жыл бұрын
You should have just focussed on replacing the old population in stead of playing arround ;-) Over time that should have solved the situation.
@Taras_Semenyuk
@Taras_Semenyuk 7 жыл бұрын
yeah, there is something worthwhile on youtube
@GamerZakh
@GamerZakh 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@Lizzaran
@Lizzaran 7 жыл бұрын
So, here I am watching your second try. I already now you "failed" which makes this kzbin.info/www/bejne/d6StqGOwrbCEl5Ym13s hilarious. I'm not disappointed at all. We alredy discussed my city and I think i can do it by kicking all out and deleting many buildings, because after all I have a huge amount of money which i would lose with a restart. I'll continue watching now and see what other mistakes I did, rather than being just too slow :D Still, great work and nice try. Thanks again Zakh for doing this. And Happy New Chinese Year
@GamerZakh
@GamerZakh 7 жыл бұрын
Glad I could be helpful! Happy Chinese New Year to you too!
@Lizzaran
@Lizzaran 7 жыл бұрын
I did it! Ha! So glad right now :D I fixed my saved map and didn't start a new one, so it was possible ;) I was a bit more radical than you and destroyed all fountains in my main housing areas, that way i was able to restart my population with circa 3000 people. Then I had to cancel my priority for food production so my gods wouldn't get angry. Otherwise my temples had no workers and my city was ruined. After i placed new storehouses like you said - 2 for each resource - i managed to stabalize my main areas. after that i built my palace area, but not on the right but the top left. with their own manufactures for pottery and furniture. That way the roads for oil, wine and food were shorter. after some time I was on 62 prosperity and managed to raise 3 more palaces/villas (7 in total), just as my population got old again and i went from needing 3 workers to over 800 xD but it worked. I learned so much from you. That's realy great
@GamerZakh
@GamerZakh 7 жыл бұрын
Awesome! Glad you managed to do it! By destroying more you bought yourself a bit more time than what I had but the ageing population still caught up with you haha. Good that you managed to hit the goals before everything came crashing though.
@ritesharora6032
@ritesharora6032 7 жыл бұрын
hi zakh counting has discussed this aging worker problem in detail
@GamerZakh
@GamerZakh 7 жыл бұрын
Knowing him, I bet he's discussed every issue with this game in detail.
@ritesharora6032
@ritesharora6032 7 жыл бұрын
Yeah that's right
@bobmcbride3550
@bobmcbride3550 7 жыл бұрын
Of the city building games, which is your favorite?
@GamerZakh
@GamerZakh 7 жыл бұрын
I think I like Caesar 3 the best just because of nostalgia and theme but I think Emperor is the most refined and complete as a game. Though I consider Pharaoh to be the most 'solid' of the set. I think of Zeus as the best one to play first if you don't understand classic city-building mechanics because it's much easier and simplified not counting the mythology stuff.
@bobmcbride3550
@bobmcbride3550 7 жыл бұрын
ok. thanks
@IgorWelkenbach
@IgorWelkenbach 7 жыл бұрын
Zeus has the most flavour and entertaining value tho (dat mythology humour! those narrated mission briefings! the wolf whistle, the goofy gods and walkers...)
@justine4353
@justine4353 5 жыл бұрын
This city can go to the doctor but it's still gonna die of old age.
@Thecoconut-x6e
@Thecoconut-x6e 6 жыл бұрын
Its a year old video, but just a thought. Why can't we just start with removing all fountains, from every residential area and then recreating them once everyone has moved out? Won't that cure the city by itself.
@GamerZakh
@GamerZakh 6 жыл бұрын
I do that to some extent here but doing it for the whole city is risky as it will wreck your employment for a long time. Houses that evolve fast don't fill up with people immediately. There is a maximum number of people who can move in every month. If your city is a few thousand population or more, devolving and re-evolving all the houses could take over a year if not more before they fill up to capacity again. You'd have to turn off or destroy most of your industry and agriculture, so it's not impossible but it's not without its own risks too. You can see how much I had to destroy just to manage a couple blocks being cleared to maintain buildings having enough employees.
@Thecoconut-x6e
@Thecoconut-x6e 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks! amazing gameplay. I learnt city building watching your videos. :) Is there anything worthwhile in 2018, I saw your video on upcoming games, Is any of them as awesome as caesar 3?
@GamerZakh
@GamerZakh 6 жыл бұрын
There are good once but only thing like this with the walker system is maybe Lethis 2. The first Lethis game didn't turn out so great but they're working on a sequel and it's looking promising.
@sb413197
@sb413197 4 жыл бұрын
If I play a city for a long time, I will actually bulldoze all the housing and move everyone out of the city. Only takes a couple months and all the palaces de-evolve, but I keep a few random tents next to prefectures and engineers/doctors so that is enough to keep the city from burning down while I replace the housing. A year later or so you have a city full of young working people again!
@raJlabaJloM
@raJlabaJloM 7 жыл бұрын
so Gamer zakh or anyone else, do you actually know how its intended to deal with this problem legit way?
@GamerZakh
@GamerZakh 7 жыл бұрын
You could win before the 'hump' of population crosses 50 years old, so considering immigrants tend to be 20-30 years old when they move in, you need to win within 20 years. That's actually plenty of time to win a mission. If you are trying to make a city work for much longer, what I would do would be to control the industries to match the birth rate rather than the 'hump' from immigration. Though as it was mentioned in other comments too, if the health of the city is only average, people will quickly die after 50 years old, bringing in new people automatically. So there's a few ways to deal with it but since the city given to me was already 50 years old and my usual objective in these is to reach the win condition, it would still be faster to restart the mission and win within the first 20 years.
@danromanov9537
@danromanov9537 2 жыл бұрын
A 93 year old in ancient rome? I think not!
@SilvioMichal1
@SilvioMichal1 7 жыл бұрын
you need 1 market for EVERY 2 palaces you want to keep at Palace level. so for block 8 LuxPalaces you should have 4 (FOUR) markets otherwise you risk devolving. markets should be place ALL AROUND the palaces but without affecting them negatively. also, between palaces it is MUCH better to use an Oracle rather than Large Statue and Oracle doesnt need to be adjacent next to road, only in reach of engineers and prefects. with this you could have designed your palace block with 4 additional medium palace (no large statues between luxPalaces but oracles - saving some space) with only 1 row extra
@petar-boshnakov
@petar-boshnakov 7 жыл бұрын
There must be a way to get people above 50 to die either poor health care in some areas or i dont know just guessing then you will have more births and overall positive birthrate. This is just guesswork here though. Maybe a better housing distribution per classes so that the peak is in the middle and you have something like a normal distribution. Then these "poorer" people my die earlier and balance the population.
@GamerZakh
@GamerZakh 7 жыл бұрын
You can engineer that by keeping the overall city health rating lower, though that means you need to have fewer doctors, and any area not covered by a doctor runs the risk of getting diseased, depopulating an entire area and causing industries in that area to shut down. It's possible but you have to be careful about it. You should build your city with that in mind.
@petar-boshnakov
@petar-boshnakov 7 жыл бұрын
GamerZakh thanks Zakh, I will experiment with it
@cardboardmannequin4069
@cardboardmannequin4069 4 жыл бұрын
Omg I think you would have made it if you'd kept paying wages of 32 and not 30. Each year of wages at least 2 dn over Rome's wages earns you another 1 prosperity, I think.
@franzheinzocampo9409
@franzheinzocampo9409 7 жыл бұрын
hey doc do you play zeus?
@GamerZakh
@GamerZakh 7 жыл бұрын
More recently I have but it's the only one I didn't play growing up.
@franzheinzocampo9409
@franzheinzocampo9409 7 жыл бұрын
it is a good game too. i can't finish the trojan war mission in difficulty set to max. Even with the full army i can't win.
@IgorWelkenbach
@IgorWelkenbach 7 жыл бұрын
Is that the very last adventure?
@franzheinzocampo9409
@franzheinzocampo9409 7 жыл бұрын
yes, it is. i have to reduce the difficulty to titan first, to be able to conquer all rivals. tough to conquer without horsemen. in the trojan war you cant build horse ranch and horse vendor that's why it's very tough to finish it with olympian difficulty.
@IgorWelkenbach
@IgorWelkenbach 7 жыл бұрын
Conquering cities without horses can be a big pain there yeah. Try to observe whenever theres only 1 shield in their city and call upon all other cities armies' as well. Aim for the target that ahs the most valuable resources... keep trying and showering the allies with gifts
@tomasparriles6440
@tomasparriles6440 Жыл бұрын
3:23 a few ways we can solve it.....genocide!!!! 😂😂
@gr8sparty
@gr8sparty 7 жыл бұрын
Hey , why didn't you raise the taxes while you were waiting for the prosperity to rise.. I think, as Rome raises wages and you follow, you can also bump up tax rates.. I have collected till 11% w/o the people going mad.. Not at all certain that it would have worked, just an observation - the guy has played it for 70yrs.. It is a dying economy, comparable to Japan in the real world, if you ask me
@GamerZakh
@GamerZakh 7 жыл бұрын
I generally don't like relying on taxes too much and I've often gotten immigration stopping because taxes are too high. Because of how I build, if immigration stops it can cause entire areas of the city to shut down.
@victorstoica4324
@victorstoica4324 5 жыл бұрын
Amphitheaters have no impact on the culture rating whatsoever... I'd personally rather go on large temples or any other "education" building... and from the "entertainment" only theaters :D
@ritesharora6032
@ritesharora6032 7 жыл бұрын
ihi Zakh send me save game file i will save the city and post video.message me on fb. i have already messaged you.
@RuSosan
@RuSosan 7 жыл бұрын
Aging population problem? _Dang youngsters don' make enough of 'em kids no more! Why, I says everyone who turns 20 and don' have no kids oughta have an extra tax on 'em that increases every year they go without making kids, and when they do make kids, they should get tax reliefs for every one they make, yeah! Or people need to stop gettin' old n' dyin' off like hat, mighty rude it is!_ xD
@bail9418
@bail9418 6 жыл бұрын
When you began you dropped the pop down from 11k to 9k. What would have most likely worked. Would have been 11k to 7k/6k by destroying 2 to 3 squares well water. Instead of the 1 you did.
@GamerZakh
@GamerZakh 6 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I underestimated how much I needed to purge.
@bail9418
@bail9418 6 жыл бұрын
+GamerZakh LOL Really didn't expect a reply on an old vid. Been following on your Caesar 3 last few days. Relearning the game LOL. I found my old disk packed up from years ago and wanted to start playing again. How often do you load on your youtube on Caesar 3?
@GamerZakh
@GamerZakh 6 жыл бұрын
All comments show on my dashboard feed no matter how old the video is haha. I'm probably going to keep uploading 2-3 times a week on KZbin for Caesar 3.
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