Games that were better on the Commodore 64 than they were on the Amiga

Hey whatup guys OSG here and this time we will be looking at games that I would say were better on the C64 than they were on the Amiga.
There’s no doubt that both of these commodore machines were great but some games were just that little bit better on the 8bit. Obviously we aren’t talking graphics here as the Amiga wiped the floor with the C64 in that respect but as I have found through my 35 years of gaming that a game isn’t all about looks…. You need good gameplay and great music too when you have those two things the graphics aren’t as important as you think.
This is a list of 17 games that in my opinion are better overall than the Amiga versions.
Games in this video:-
Armalyte Amiga @ 00:47
Armalyte C64 @ 01:15
Arnie Amiga @ 01:51
Arnie C64 @ 02:18
Bionic Commando Amiga @ 02:51
Bionic Commando C64 @ 03:20
Commando Amiga @ 03:51
Commando C64 @ 04:25
Creatures Amiga @ 05:00
Creatures C64 @ 05:34
Defender Of The Crown Amiga @ 06:09
Defender Of The Crown C64 @ 06:36
Hawkeye Amiga @ 07:14
Hawkeye C64 @ 07:49
Hudson Hawk Amiga @ 08:21
Hudson Hawk C64 @ 08:56
Katakis Amiga @ 09:28
Katakis C64 @ 10:04
Microprose Soccer Amiga @ 10:39
Microprose Soccer C64 @ 11:14
Myth Hystory in the Making Amiga @ 11:47
Myth Hystory in the Making C64 @ 12:22
Outrun Amiga @ 12:56
Outrun C64 @ 13:30
Platoon Amiga @ 14:05
Platoon C64 @ 14:38
Power Drift Amiga @ 15:13
Power Drift C64 @ 15:49
The Last Ninja 2 Amiga @ 16:24
The Last Ninja 2 C64 @ 16:57
Untouchables Amiga @ 17:32
Untouchables C64 @ 18:07
Wizball Amiga @ 18:34
Wizball C64 @ 19:06
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[@SimonFincher]

The music on the C64 version of Commando is simply legendary. Loved my Amiga, but C64 version of this owns it.

[@oldstylegaming]

It does mate

[@bengmo64]

The game was too hard for me as a kid but I would still load it up sometimes and get my butt kicked a few dozen times after getting pumped from the music

[@hynol]

Yep - sound is as good as arcade version. SID was amazing in hands of talented people. Amiga version music is just flat, smooth and boring.

[@d_vibe-swe]

About Defender of the Crown. If I've understood it correct, the Amiga version was the first release of that franchise, meaning that the later versions had a more developed game design.

[@klausstock8020]

The Amiga version was rushed, planned features were left out. I guess they ran out of money and had to ship a stripped-down version. I guess the revenue from the Amiga version allowed them to produce the more complete versions that came after the Amiga version. There was also an upgraded Amiga version (I think it was for the CD32). Digital speech, more options during the siege, different gameplay. But, in my humble opinion, also less fun to play. I mean, you conquer all of England, no enemies remain...and the eradicated enemies still attach you, with decisive strength, and while you have wagonloads of money, you suddenly cannot buy any new troops anymore?

[@Fanny-Fanny]

All I know is, as a teenager with a thirst for the clam, I sure flicked the bean to some of the cut scenes where I imagined rescuing a fine princess and having some 'girl time' with her

[@BackyardEpicMovies]

I personally feel the Last Ninja series belongs on the C64, playing it on other computers feels wrong.

[@oldstylegaming]

Exactly

[@pedazodeboludo]

@@oldstylegaming Absolutely. There's something to the slender, all-black ninja from the C64 that is better. The Amiga one has too much color and looks blockier (it's like when Hollywood started making color movies and used too much color).

[@grzegozsliz5371]

@@pedazodeboludo C64 soundtrack - sorry, amiga sucks..

[@carlmanvers5009]

@@grzegozsliz5371 If you haven't already check out The Fastloaders on youtube. They did an entire album of The Last Ninja Music and would perform live with the likes of Ben Daglish and Reyn Ouwehand, TLN composers.

[@darthvader78441]

Couldn't agree more!

[@juanaltredo2974]

man, the commando music is legendary, thanks Rob hubbard

[@Turrican60]

Another super video, pal, so thanks for that. Just one highly noticeable omission from your list, and that's *Flimbo's Quest* - it was decent on the Amiga version, but shone like a platforming beacon on the C64. The graphics were cool for a C64 game, back in the day, and the smooth animation in conjunction with parallax scrolling was pretty amazing for the time. In fact, I remember playing this game to death on the C64 until I finally beat the bugger. I mean, it was a difficult game, despite the cutesy graphics, as many will remember. I just wish that someone out there who remembers Flimbo's Quest with lots of love and affection (and the necessary skill set!) would remake this classic platformer with updated graphics for the PC. Happy days...I feel nearly 30 years younger, now. 😉

[@GryphonICD]

Bubble Bobble. C64 still feels like one of the best versions.

[@oldstylegaming]

I love bb on c64 the music I like even more than the arcade

[@MrAmi69]

BB was perfect on the Amiga tho.

[@Nomeleas]

The fact is that Ste Ruddy had to program de C64 version with just a little help (I think he said he just had some docs in japanese and one Bubble Bobble arcade to which he played a lot)

[@ridiculous_gaming]

Sadly, the 8 bit Atari computer, was abandoned after the introduction of the Atari ST, so an actual 8 bit Atari version was never developed.

[@Monty-or9sb]

My absolute fave game of the 80s, bar none, though Arkanoid comes a close second. Imagine my surprise to learn years later the were both basically by the same guy!

[@hofnaerrchen]

I think Pirates was really great on the C64, probably the best version of the game at all.

[@connorkenway2808]

hahahahah OMG!

[@torbjrnsteinsland9268]

Really? I have played many versions, and the Amiga one is my favorite Pirates!

[@sonsofthewestredwhiteblue5317]

Yep. Amazing game. I played it on Xbox many years later and it wasn’t as good as the C64 version

[@delscoville]

I was wondering if you were going to get to Wizball. It's always the first game I think of when asked what was better on the Commodore 64. Not to mention those awesome "guitar" riffs. We know it's the SID, but wow, what perfection.

[@nikos.andreou]

Actually, the list can be huge. Some games, had this 8-bit feeling that was never transformed to a better game on the 16bits. For example, The Great Gianna Sisters was meant to be for the 8bits. Or Impossible Mission 2 that on the Amiga, it felt sloooow. I even liked IK+ better on the C64.

[@OneEyePI]

Agree. I think it's that 8 bit games ported across just felt like they had been given "better" graphics and not a lot else (although I was never a fan of the graphics in a lot of 16 bit games, which often felt plasticy if that makes sense). The 16 bit machines were best when used for things that 8 bit didnt do well like vector graphics.

[@lordevyl8317]

I think SOME of them COULD have been better on the Amiga if they weren't direct ports from the ST. Amiga fans know the pain of C64 owners who had to put up with DIRECT Spectrum ports. Not bagging on the Spectrum, but those kind of graphics never really suited the C64. The only decent direct speccy port I can think of is Fairlight

[@emmap4339]

that exactly that: 8bits are designed for an era and doing certain things well, 16bits are another era and do other things which can't be done on 8bits but are limited if doing 8bits stuff. Each era has its high and low and each has its merits, there is thus no better or worse, there is what fits you and what's not. Enjoy yourself, feel good vibes and be outside often. Life is not about watching a screen.

[@chriscowey7464]

To be fair though Ik+Is a great game on any computer :p

[@Lightningchase1973]

IK+ I absolutely liked on both systems.

[@kranzky]

Great to see Wizball on this list; I was so annoyed when I fired it up on the Amiga back in the day, after playing the c64 version to death. You're right; the controls were just slightly off somehow, so the skills I'd built up playing on the c64 didn't transfer. Pity, it was a great game.

[@xtomvideo]

And I thought I was missing out when looking at the 16bit screenshots on the boxes :) Great selection of games there.

[@komemiute]

Impressive list! I'd add also Airborne Ranger! As you often say, graphic is not the best C64 can do but gameplay and playability is off the chart!

[@nyisziati]

Me and my brother played A LOT on the C64 with it! But not the Amiga version, that was fairly bad.

[@thefurthestmanfromhome1148]

@@nyisziati Didn't Imagitec Design handle the ST and Amiga versions? A favourite of mine on the C64

[@paultrundley6408]

A great list. I would also include, Emyln Hughes International Soccer which was a personal fave of mine. Many an evening spent with my cousin customising teams etc

[@uplinkx1126]

SID - the sound of my childhood :) I still love listening to C64 music every now and then. In general Amiga had much better sound, but the original SID has something romantic to it that I've never heard anywhere else. Very recognizable too.

[@stuarthyslop7216]

I remember first playing "Commando" on my ZX Spectrum 48k (one with the rubber keys) and it played and looked better than both the A500 and the C64. But shout out to OSG I'm a gaming person also so watching your video's brings back so many fond memories. Still sometime find myself watching one of your vids and remembering a game then logging out of my "Warcraft" account to fire up an emulator. Keep doing what your doing matey

[@oldstylegaming]

Thanks mate nostalgia is a strong emotion :-)

[@lanceuppercut7418]

Rob Hubbard is a god. Loved Creatures and Creatures 2. I didn't even realise it was released on the Amiga. And I owned one. Probably too engrossed in Moonstone. I also loved Bionic Commando, but I think the NES version was superior. Great vid.

[@oldstylegaming]

Thanks mate for watching and yeah Bionic Commando on the NES is good

[@chriscowey7464]

I do not know how they got creatures so wrong on the Amiga, it just does not play well at all, awful and I played the c64 one to death multiple times.

[@lurkerrekrul]

The Amiga version of Buggy Boy/Speed Buggy has more detailed graphics, but the C64 version feels faster.

[@theyamo7219]

Same for the Amiga version of Power Drift. But the C64 version was pure class

[@rodoherty1]

Cybernoid ... Gameplay on the 64 was great and that soundtrack is legendary!!!!!

[@antonnym214]

very nice reporting and narrating. Also very interesting subject matter! I have liked and subscribed! All good wishes.

[@oldstylegaming]

Thanks mate I appreciate the kind words :-)

[@louiseogden1296]

@@oldstylegaming Yeah mate, fun watching some British channels I can relate to :).

[@Grzegorz54321]

There is a great remake Commando on c64 "Commando Arcade" from 2014.

[@theyamo7219]

Yup, Great remake of Ghosts n Goblins as well, made by the same team

[@davieboy154]

I Love the wizball music on the c64

[@MrBottlecapBill]

When I was a kid I used to love letting the game screens just play so I could see how good the music got. Some of he game actually have very complex music that got better and better the longer you listened to it, before repeating of course. Parallax is one that comes to mind. I loved my c64.

[@CommodoreComputerMuseum]

Good selection of games compared, I love how you don't hold back, of mince your words, great video. Subbed. Look forward to your next one.

[@oldstylegaming]

Thanks mate :-)

[@falkaseltza]

Totally agree with you. What also bugged me on the Amiga were these constantly repeating little samples.

[@scottbreon9448]

Way too many lazy direct ST ports too

[@Xantaxia]

On the Amiga Armalyte looks as if it was a different game altogether, made the player's ship look a bit like the one from the C64 and hoped no-one would notice.

[@ioloavatar8430]

That C64 soundchip . I still love that sound .

[@gj8313]

Great video, I did find when the Amiga came out there was quite a few games that were just cool graphics but not much gameplay.

[@SomeOrangeCat]

C64 is a goddamn beast!

[@audiebavington8789]

Great video! Subscribed!

[@oldstylegaming]

Thanks mate :-)

[@paulocorreia2024]

Nicely done, subscribed. Thank you.

[@sohatyi]

And the C64 version of Platoon looks and sounds WAY better than the Amiga version. The colour palette suits it in the C64

[@oldstylegaming]

It does mate it's like actually playing a film

[@thefurthestmanfromhome1148]

@@oldstylegaming The Tunnel and Bunker sections were just soo atmospheric on the C64

[@BillsOldandNewGaming]

Great list. There are plenty more that could probably be on it but I feel you have covered the main ones especially with the likes of armalyte, wizball and creatures. I've still not played microprose soccer other than on the Atari st and I loved it on that so I should be in for a treat with the c64 version.

[@Akabackalooka]

I'd like to talk to the developers for the Amiga ones and ask them, "Why?"

[@beezle1976]

I suspect "Atari ST" would be a recurring response :)

[@Henrik_Holst]

Probably the publisher told them "so in 2 weeks we want you to have the port of this c64 game ready on both the Atari ST and the Amiga".

[@grantorino2325]

It was literally Spanish (or Portuguese) for "girlfriend." Seriously, just how lonely WERE computer guys, back in the 1980s?

[@NisseDood]

Amiga was great but it really felt like they didnt even try when doing a lot of ports.

[@alpharisc]

Although the amiga was great most of the games felt like a significant section of your brain had been removed, either slow flick book like performance or you're met with no music and horrific sound effects. It seems some of the games on the amiga work alright on NTSC machines and also take up more of the screen. The C64 had gameplay down to a fine art for a lot of titles.

[@Borna909]

The music from Bionic Commando is the same tunes written and coded by Tim Follin who is a musical genius. Thanks for the good compilation though.

[@Meursault2004]

I think Stormlord on the C64 looks better than on the Amiga.

[@stubbsy82uk]

You must have got your c64 with the Hollywood hits pack (I think that's what it's called anyway). Me and my bro got ours for Xmas one year. I think I was about 3. We had to go to our Nana's at Christmas a couple of minutes away from Sunderland royal. That was probably my favourite Christmas as we literally sat and played c64 for a out 8 hours straight...but God I hated platoon... So damn hard. Great video bruva! Keep up the good work

[@oldstylegaming]

Haha yeah that's the pack..platoon was hard as a kid..I never got past the tunnels until later in life when I got the map. But out of the pack there was only platoon, Rambo and maybe the great escape worth playing....Miami vice and topgun ...nightmare. Where do you live?

[@stubbsy82uk]

@@oldstylegaming i remover top gun and Miami vice quite well. Can't remember really getting far on either. My bro could get really far on platoon but it was proper nails. I live in fulwell. I can tell by the accent your a local lad too. Where do you live?

[@oldstylegaming]

@@stubbsy82uk Houghton

[@stubbsy82uk]

@@oldstylegaming your not far away matey. I take it the c64 was your favourite then? I had the c64 up until mario 3 came out as I needed a nes the moment I seen that game. Think the mega drive was still.my favourite and probably the one I spend most of my time on. Then again im busy trying to do cup head on Xbox one at the moment. Excellent game and tough as well. I'm guessing your a similar age to me. I'm 37

[@Naji2004]

And I call myself a hardcore Amiga/C64 gamer, many games on your list I didn't even know about that period of time.

[@oldstylegaming]

Haha

[@blaqua]

You forgot the most important game of them all Giana Sisters.

[@franzutubeable]

I totally agree, but you forgot LED Storm! In this game 64 literally outclasses Amiga in gameplay, graphic and in music! Software Creations was great in C64 conversions (and in fact Bionic Commando in your list). But I never understood what problems they had with scrolling on the Amiga...

[@ctbullett300]

Bad programming and Atari ST ports riddles early Amiga titles

[@MrEDET]

Great video! I almost forgot how often I was disappointed with the Amiga versions of some game. Besides missing the amazing SID sounds, often poor framerates were the biggest problem with the Amiga versions. I still love playing c64 games on emu's, this friday I will receive the c64 Maxi for the ultimate emulation experience :D Weirdly enough there are only a handfull of Amiga games of which I have fond memories.

[@louiseogden1296]

Honestly, I had an Amiga when I was a kid but there was an awful lot of crapware on it and the graphics haven't aged well. Honestly, the C64 seems to promise less and deliver more than the Amiga did, 30 years on.

[@NULUSIOS]

I fully agree. I actually waited to see if DotC and more importantly Wizball are mentioned. Good job.

[@beezle1976]

Good list. There's often some nostalgia for the creators attached to some of these comparison type lists which can result in some,... err,.... let's say "unusual" suggestions. I agree with every one here though.

[@oldstylegaming]

I try not to be biased

[@politicallycorrectredskin796]

Bubble Bobble and Wizball are the two I remember. Much, much better gameplay on the C64.

[@PerBengtsson]

I agree 100%

[@dimipallis]

You could also check Shinobi and Wonderboy in Monsterland.The C64 versions are superb.

[@FlyingFoxDK1]

The CMD version of the Danish game Guldkorns Expressen was also better than it's Amiga counterpart by a mile. The Amiga version constantly had freezes because it had to load stuff, while the CMD64 was smooth sailing.

[@nigwoods8976]

this is fab. thanks for uploading

[@PeterPan-wh1sg]

I always regretted selling my C64 to get the Amiga 1000. That was back in 1987. The C64 thrashes the Amiga when it comes to game play and the 'meat & potatoes' of gaming.

[@XaFFaX]

Untouchables - same here, great music and gameplay! Loved it.

[@caeserromero3013]

I bought Outrun for the C64 when it first came out from US Gold in the big box version which actually came with an audio cassette of the sound track. Years later when I started driving, I actually played the audio cassette in the stereo when driving. I thought I was the nuts in my Burgundy red Metro 1.3 Vanden Plas with cream leather seats and electric windows blasting out Splash Wave from the stereo... lol :)

[@oldstylegaming]

Nice ... great driving soundtrack

[@lordevyl8317]

Don;t get me wrong, David Whittaker did a pretty great job with the Amiga music on Platoon ( I mean it IS David Bloody Whittaker), but there's something about the Jonathan Dunn original that just stand out...

[@julienbraudel7109]

Agreed. Whittaker is actually better with synth soundchips. His Platoon's Atari ST version sounds better than the Amiga also.

[@7200932]

Creatures on the C64 was one of my favourite games

[@Nickbaldeagle02]

Bounty Bob Strikes Back was my all time favorite.

[@Turrican60]

Tr00p3r - It was one of my fave games, too. Really made me smile whenever Clyde Radcliffe got powered-up, started flashing...and then that hilarious sound effect kicked in. Okay, it's probably just my weird sense of humour, lol...😊

[@lordevyl8317]

Nick Baldeagle great game, it was actually the sequel to Miner 2049er, another great game in its own right

[@disasterincarnate]

Cybernoid 1+2, Bubble Bobble, the Spy vs Spy series, R-Type, Midnight Resistance, and plenty more i really shouldnt forget but cant recall atm..

[@robotic2000k]

Spot on, on all accounts. As an owner of both c64 and Amiga 500 I couldn't agree more. Kudos to you sir!

[@miked421]

Nice comparison. Armalyte is a piece of Art on the c64. Great sounds, great game play. I loved it. On the amiga? Forget it.

[@kukumuniu5658]

Once upon a time, I played three games whose titles I don't remember maybe You could help me? The first game was about the adventures of a black-haired boy, a platform game he jumped on trees and shot green slime :D a game similar to Mr Tomato. The second game, also from the side view, we moved left, right, up and down by some soldier or special agent, commando dressed rather as a civilian, he walked around buildings, picking up rifles from the floor or from shot enemies...a bit like UnEpic from 2011 but less fairy-tale like,coloristically. The protagonist of the third game was a character who looked like Indiana Jones maybe even the game was about him the only thing I remember is quite original graphics, very natural, like Mortal Kombat, at the beginning you could move tables in some abandoned castle, or rather its ruins ... and there was water also,the furniture could float in it and we could stand on it. All games I was playing on Amiga 600

[@Ironlord2015]

I totally agree with Wizball being an absolute Amiga stinker. I mean for a kick off, why did they use drum sounds for Wiz sound FX? Ha ha...how lazy. You have a bass drum for the bounce sound, and a snare drum for the gunshot sound, It's like they really just couldn't be arsed at all! Wizball on the 64 has absolutely stunning music and fx, which are a huge part of the whole package, and they clearly just didn't try with the Amiga version, which could, and should've been amazing!! I have such fond happy memories of playing Wizball on the 64 with my brother as a kid, he'd play as Wiz, and i'd be Cat picking up all the lovely droplets of colour, and I was always mesmerised by the stunning music, and the equally amazing sound fx, which drew you right into that amazing little wiz world on your screen. To this day it still has the same affect on me...truly one of the best games EVER!!

[@christiand6768]

I had o lot of fun with many c64 games in the 80's. Wizard of war, river raid, rally speedway, Dan dare, hero, dino egs, diana sisters , raid on bangelin bay to just name a few of many many games. However, at least for me wizball is the ultimate c64 game ever made. Insanely good soundtrack, superb graphics and nearly perfect gameplay. 10 out of 10 easily. As a matter of fact wizball on a original cassette still in the Package with the paperwork and instructions is the only thing I still have left from my c64 with disk drive, ultimate cartridge and hundreds of cracked games. My sister and I played wizball so many times all the way to 999 999 points. I also did that in single mode but wizball truly shined in coop mode. The cassette is still in my kitchen drawer as a memory when my sister and I played it 35 years ago.

[@fomobull4187]

Realm of the Trolls from 1988 actually has better graphics and music than the Amiga version. The C64 version is very atmospheric, the Amiga version looks like it was slapped together in Amos over a weekend.

[@auletes]

Silent Service: the C64 had the best version of all.

[@scottbreon9448]

Gunship too, although the Amiga made up for it with Gunship 2000

[@Cabriofahrer2]

Although Silent Service was my favorite game on the C64, it was just better on the Amiga. Loved it.

[@satan3959]

I felt Pirates was much better on the C64 as well. I would have said SEUCK to, but that wasn't really a "game" perse, but more of a game development engine, kind of like the Gamemaker for it's time

[@Lucasrainford]

@Rooflesoft Games I agree, SEUCK on Amiga was a massive disapointment.

[@MrAmi69]

Pirates on the C64 isn't even close to the legendary Amiga version. Get real.

[@scottbreon9448]

You Friend The GAMEPLAY was far better on the C64 If you're talking Pirates GOLD, I would agree, but the original Pirates has far better gameplay on the C64

[@MrAmi69]

@Scott Breon It was not even close.

[@lordevyl8317]

Your Friend To those with single digit IQs like youself

[@dilfcurrie]

Creatures was one of my favorite games. Nice to see it again.

[@sakismitsoulas7574]

Great list...my only objection is Myth...loved that game on my Amiga500...Great graphics and incredible sound by the late Richard Joseph...great video...thanks

[@oldstylegaming]

See i love the c64 for Jeroen Tels music

[@sakismitsoulas7574]

@@oldstylegaming the c64version is also amazing...i really love both games

[@Phunker1]

Geordie retro computing! Subscribed!!!

[@robertosswald5896]

Laser Squad had 7 maps on c64 and had sfx, on Amiga version had only 5 maps and annoying music instead of sfx. And sfx in ls are really important for hinting where the enemy is (and especially in hot seat 2 player games)

[@hynol]

Very true. Also I liked general look on C64 better. It was much cleaner. Only improvement on Amiga version was aiming.

[@robertosswald5896]

@@hynol I don't remember aiming on Amiga b/c I only played it on a friends comp (could try now on emulator, though), but yes, the C-64 hi-res graphics was less colorful but was much sharper and cleaner. Though, him using a really blurry old TV could've helped that a bit. My home TV was smaller but had way better tube, with denser (not more saturated, but brighter/better defined) colors and sharper image.

[@Lucasrainford]

I was a little sceptical when I read the title but after viewing I'm deffo inclined to agree! Most of these were classed as shite Amiga games back then. I was surprised about DOTC and Myth, I'll have to check the C64 versions out. Although not a game, my biggest disapointment was The Shoot 'em Construction Kit. I spent countless hours on it on the C64 , making games, creating loading/game over screens, it felt like you was using the power of the machine. When I upgraded to the Amiga I was excited to discover a port of SEUCK and what a pile of shite it turned out to be, just not using the Amiga's hardware at all, kak. Anyway, great vid m8 :)

[@oldstylegaming]

Thanks mate ... And thanks for some of the footage in this too

[@Lucasrainford]

@@oldstylegaming No worries, anytime lol ;)

[@hablom1977]

hey I also remember playing Microprose Soccer on C64, that was a great game.

[@marcuskuhnert2105]

hablom1977 definitely better than on the Amiga , also got better reviews in German game magazines

[@mrscruffy8045]

I liked to play it, too, and the music stuck with me to this day (sometimes i whistle it during work) - but objectively, i cant say it was a good game. We all know, there was only one proper way (outside blind chance and glitches) to score a goal, right? Sometimes simple, rather poor mechanics, still make a fun game. But was it anything like real soccer? Hardly.

[@jackdaddypfc]

Oh man nice recall! I loved that game.

[@brainscan5060]

In my opinion, there's another great comparison missing: X-Out! The Amiga version was somehow... "okay...", but the C64 version really ROCKED!!

[@oldstylegaming]

I love the c64 intro to x-out ..you know it's gonna be a great game when it's got a good intro

[@keef-baker]

'it's mostly down to it being too hard'. *SCREAMS IN DARK SOULS*

[@Mack-op1vw]

It seems that there was that window of time when they`d learnt all the C64`s tricks but were still struggling on the mighty Amiga but by god could that SID chip kick out a tune!

[@kierank1982]

What about Kwik Snax?! I loved it on the C64 so when I got an Amiga it was top of my shopping list but the gameplay was completely different and shit! Great video though mate as always. Pure nostalgia channel!

[@oldstylegaming]

I'll check that game out I've never heard of it....and thanks your comment about pure nostalgia means I'm doing my job right ;-)

[@Turrican60]

I absolutely loved Kwik Snax on the C64, too. I bought it on cassette as a budget game and never regretted it. It was quite funny watching those bits of food floating around a maze, and the music was so damned cute, too. Am slightly surprised that OSG didn't know about it, but hey, there were (quite literally) thousands of C64 games on the market at the time. Yup, pure nostalgia!

[@gamingtonight1526]

You need to do a video on early Microprose - from 8-bit to Civilization 1, for example. They were the No.1 publisher of the 80s early 90s with pirates, Silent Service 1 and 2, F-19 Stealth Fighter, Kennedy Approach, Gunship, etc.

[@marksims68]

Question. Whats the music in the intro with the loader screen at around ten second in? I think its a Jeroen Tel piece but I'm unsure, its driving me mad!!!!! Amazing video and I'd also like to chuck Turrican into the mix, I love the Amiga version but the C64 game is unreal! Thanks all!

[@oldstylegaming]

Yeah it is Jeroen Tel and its Myth History in the Making intro C64...great tune..great musician

[@louiseogden1296]

Thinking of buying that C64 Maxi unit, so useful video. I had an Amiga when I was a young teen but never had a C64, so curious as to whether to get the Maxi. (Any chance of them giving the Amiga the same mini console treatment?!) Creatures looks way fun as well.

[@oldstylegaming]

I hope they do make an amiga mini that would be awesome... imagine if they put real floppy drive in too

[@AmigaDog]

Great video, c64& Amiga my childhood 😊👍

[@ridiculous_gaming]

I own a Commodore portable, the SX64, but back in the day I was not specifically a Commodore fan at all till after 1985. Apparently, I was more of a Jay Miner fan, for I owned and praised first my Atari 2600, next my Atari 8 bit computer line and in the fall of1988 my Amiga 500 computer. It does sadden me, years later, to see how many Amiga titles were either simple ports from the Atari ST or just sloppy creations completed by developers who perhaps did not know the system too well or did not have the necessary development time. The result, as seen in hundreds of Amiga titles, are games that are inferior of the hardware with little to no utilization of the Copper or Blitter chips. However, what was partially responsible for the poor ports on all computers, in those days, was the rampant piracy, which reduced profits of software companies. Nevertheless, these vintage consoles have imbedded within me fond memories of surprise, amazement and fun that will follow me to my grave. Also, it has been amazing to see so many fixes to vintage 8 bit computer games and even new games developed as of late. Some of these new titles truly push the 8 bit computers to amazing and impressive levels well beyond the imagination of developers and hardware engineers of that era.

[@oldstylegaming]

For every ST port there is a good Amiga developed title though. There were lots of ST ports but as they were on the same framework it was seen as a quick turn around for some games and after all they just wanted our money at the end of the day...i wonder how things would have been back then if we had the internet to check games out before buying

[@ridiculous_gaming]

@@oldstylegaming As you fully know, the Atari ST was a bargain priced machine from day one making it a fast selling 16 bit computer in 1985, so games were often first developed on the ST, due to the larger market share, and later ported to Amiga. An example of this was Dungeon Master that took about 2 years until it reached Amiga, for it was created on the ST first. However, there was no complaints here with this title, for it was a jaw dropping experience for me when I had just migrated from an Atari 130xe to Atari STFM. I also remember a few games that ran on a 512kb Amiga, but needed 1 meg on the ST as well.

[@daniellinehan8467]

Creatures on the Commadore 64 was one of my all time favourite games, loved it as a kid!

[@Chilliconcarnage]

I would "Last Ninja 2" and "Robocop" to the list. The former had the now legendary Matt Gray soundtrack and great isometric graphics while the latter was more playable over the cheap ST port that Robocop was.

[@thefurthestmanfromhome1148]

Ocean Software to blame, Robocop coder Peter Johnson had wanted to use the Amiga hardware, but Ocean wanted game out at same time as the film had it's home release

[@ThomasChristensen]

"Into the Eagles Nest" was also much better on the C64, as was "Frost Byte" 👌

[@victorhugovaldezsoto]

Great video! OMG - I just had a revelation! That game - MYTH - unknown to me until this very moment - THAT THING IS CONAN THE BARBARIAN ON THE NES!! Now everything makes sense! IT HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH CONAN AT ALL! WTF!

[@oldstylegaming]

Yeah that's right mate :-)

[@HobbyView]

Kennedy Approach. Slightly better interface in the Amiga, but the pilot voices are much better on the C64. The Amiga voices sounds like they were recorded in a bathroom.

[@quint3570]

Defender of the Crown was up there with Last ninja 2 for me as fave game on C64

[@oldstylegaming]

Yeah mate me too. LN2 is one of them games you will always remember. Long time no see mate hope you are well

[@quint3570]

@@oldstylegaming yeah missed loads of your videos plus Zeus and Rob :( had a lot on plus trips too n fro from the hospital, hadn't had the time.

[@oldstylegaming]

no probs mate as long as you are ok...my vids will be there for you whenever

[@quint3570]

@@oldstylegaming Dont know yet ,have to wait for scan results to come back ,hey ho .will have a look at your other videos soon ,I've missed loads by the looks of it.

[@theyamo7219]

The problem with Defender of the Crown on the Amiga was that it suffered from Direct Atari ST Port syndrome...same for Wizball. The ST version at least looks polished and finished, but the Amiga version looks half-assed.

[@PREDATORGAMINGHD1376]

Good video keep up with the good work

[@oldstylegaming]

Thanks mate And thanks for watching :-)

[@miffokarnevalen]

While I have spent a huge amount of time gaming on the Amiga and I think that there are a lot of great games on that machine I must say that generally speaking I think that the C64 games had more heart in them. I think that on the Amiga it was much easier to make something that was more pleasing for the eyes and that they often focused most on the visuals and forgot the rest. On a lesser capable system you have to work harder to make everything work together and so they did. This is at least my feeling. Also, and I don't know if this is me just preferring the sound of the SID, but the music on the C64 was always better with very few exceptions. Right know I cannot come up with even one Amiga game with that kind of iconic music we got spoiled with on the C64. SFX, due to the better ability of playing samples, was often better on the Amiga though. I think that this trend of focusing on the visuals continued on to PC gaming as well making me loose interest in gaming. Nowadays, though, there are plenty of games that are both visually stunning and fun/enjoyable to play and there is much more variety with more indie developers and such. I guess games like Baba is you and Patrick's parabox would have been possible to achieve on the C64, for example, but I cannot recall anything like that.

[@timetorelaxfocus9642]

I love the Amiga! I played a few game son C64 which were pretty cool too. Someone crank up the time machine and bring theses back!

[@addersrinseandclean]

As a big amiga fan I have to say that the C64 is a grate computer love it

[@JonasRosenven]

Cybernoid on the c64 was gorgeous and the soundtrack was outstanding. The amiga version disappointed me to no end. Speaking of soundtracks: The title music from Wizball and Platoon on the c64 - they're some of the greatest tunes ever made.

[@oldstylegaming]

Cybernoid was nearly on the list

[@SaturnJap]

Nice list and I agree on all of them, yet there are other many games that somewhy work better on C64. People don't lynch me now, but I've never been interested in Last Ninja series, still I can tell by the video that the C64 version is somehow more convincing. Talking about graphics, I think that it's often important, and sometime we like to play a good looking game only because it looks good, precisely, even if it lacks in the other important components, as well as we play Crazy Comets basically for Rob Hubbard's tune only. Comparing some Amiga and C64 versions of the same game I would say that sometime the graphics is actually really better on the C64, and with that I mean the style, the colors, and the framerate which is (an essential) part of graphics (optimization).

[@rodoherty1]

Cybernoid absolutely belongs on this list.

[@0ceanicify]

7:12 "Hey, this looks like a kid's game!" "You idiots! -poink-"

[@Nickbaldeagle02]

Hawkeye was awesomeness on the C64.

[@MrDamo34]

Amiga games that didn’t hit the mark were generally rushed conversions or Atari ST ports.

[@danmcdaid]

Can't believe how great Creatures looks on the C64

[@RolandDeschain1]

And the torture puzzles at the end of every level were glorious.

[@gamescoffer]

For me, without a doubt is Midnight resistance and the Dizzy adventures - I preferred them much more on the C64 than the Amiga.

[@El_Guapo74]

The slowed down PAL music is something to get used too

[@RolandDeschain1]

PLATOON also had a fairly pioneering first-person shooter level that was a little clunky but still effective and suspenseful.

[@oldstylegaming]

it was a real different aspect when we first played it

[@csgrinds]

I've got to hand it to you - this is the most hardcore video game coverage I've seen in years. It's also on the ball. Fair fucks.

[@metalcoola]

In my opinion, every game from System 3 was better on C64, except maybe International Karate + :)

[@oldstylegaming]

Maybe mate ...maybe ... IK+ is a great C64 game too though

[@lordevyl8317]

Same for Thalamus

[@jacek-jan]

Yup! music of Bionic Comando is simply a masterpiecie

[@kayDawgTV]

What in the world, did Platoon on the Amiga use the sounds from the Aliens movie?

[@cheulesyigess1187]

I agree with most of it, except Myth - I love both versions equally. I would add Cybernoid to the list, also Rampage, Bomb Jack and Exolon.