Games Workshop Lied! Adepticon Reveals!

[@EonsOfBattle]

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[@mattbridges385]

I shut it off and went to bed, they drew it out so much. Just popped over to the community site and read what I wanted and moved on with my day

[@kevinkirk3156]

no orks, i had a feeling and went to sleep 20 minutes prior to it.

[@AncientWyrm1775]

The Brood Brothers are an upgrade sprue for the current Cadian infantry kit, not a new kit. This follows the same pattern as the other boxes. One new bespoke team, and one upgrade sprue.

[@Bloodworia]

That's why you don't watch those things live. Wait for the stream to be done and skip all the stupid talk

[@joesturn7740]

Agreed. They've been over long and self indulgent for years now. Can't stand watching them.

[@Guns367]

For AoS Stormcast Eternal lore, Yandrasta isn't the only one who is loosing pieces of themselves as they die. That's all Stormcasts. It's a well known fact in the lore and there is a point where Stromcasts are too far gone to be sent back out into the field.

[@luketfer]

That Chaos lord on foot is basically a remake of a very old Chaos Lord model that, when you look at him, also looks very chaos warriory, so that I'll let pass. But my god yeah, as you said, Necromunda and Horus Heresy basically got nothing burger reveals. Not to mention it feels very odd that Chaos Space Marines got this massive reveal with them mentioning all the detachments and stuff...meanwhile we don't know what the new non-index attachments are for Custodes and Orks which are set to come out before CSM.

[@mrmors1344]

its because custodes and orks aren't being released as planned. they are having "problems"

[@games-wz7sz]

This reveal meeting could have been a reveal email

[@Web-man_]

The HOW always hits different

[@BlanketTWC]

Yes

[@billdefranza4927]

How... can this be?

[@CrimsonTemplar2]

The Brood Bothers are a new upgrade sprue for the new Cadian infantry squad + older GSC guys (Patriarch is on a 50mm base)

[@GuthanSlayer]

ya ive seen people make this mistake a few times haha

[@ZiggyGWDev]

Is it even confirmed that the box comes with the broodcoven sprue?

[@ArynCrinn]

@@GuthanSlayer I've even seen some reveal reactions with people seeing the Chaos Space Marine boxes and thinking they're all new models or something... as though they've been living under a rock for the past 6 years. So I'm really not surprised that people can't spot the new Cadian sculpts here.

[@joegkushner]

In terms of 'Sigmar Lied', I was happy it wasn't Stormcast going Chaos or anything of that nature. The whole losing your soul bit has been on a few characters at this time including memory loss and other bits as shown in the anime as well.

[@anotherperson2627]

I thought it was gonna be, and shouldve been, Skaven creating a gnawhole to gst into Azyr. Thus Sigmar lied about Azyr being safe. I also wouldve been chill with instead Signar didn't befriend the dragons, but conquered them.

[@foxhoundms9051]

"Pretty cool models, not gonna buy any of 'em" Lmao quote of the year with these editions

[@foreverfornever1124]

and then they end up buying said models as they normally do. Jay is pretty notorious for that lol

[@NostalgiaVivec]

The poster said necromunda and horus heresy would get teasers which they did. No one lied lmao

[@browncaramelboba8408]

That is my feeling when me and my friends watching the GW stream together. After the stream everybody turn and ask each other what did Sigmar lie exactly???

[@Beedji]

"Sigmar lied... except he didnt so thats ok." -GW

[@taser3022]

pretty sure the lady in the 4th edition trailer said outright what sigmar lied about. The cost of immortality as a stormcast

[@jack-a-lopium]

@@Beedji It's FICTION, it's literally ALL LIES, lol.

[@mikedaknight8854]

I don’t play AoS and already knew that stormcast were losing their humanity. I guess that’s the point he was making? 🤷‍♂️

[@michaeljdauben]

​@@taser3022maybe he lied to the storm cast, but the fact that they lose some of their soul/personality with each reincarnation has been in the fluff since day 1 of AoS.

[@foreverfornever1124]

They didnt lie about anything lol. Necromunda and HH were going to be teasers as it was mentioned. I dont know why anyone expected models. The AoS trailer could have come with one model reveal like the 40k 10th ed trailer did, but Im not pressed about not getting anything, that wasnt a guarantee either. Most reveals are an hour long actually so that doesnt need to be over exaggerated lol. Usually the big ones like Adepticon are an hour and half anyways. This one unfortunately just had more talking vs actual model reveals. Im sure theyll continue to keep tweaking this new style they are going for. I actually like they had the creators speak about the models and lore, I just want to see still white images of the models as they usually do. Aside from that I enjoyed the model reveals. However I feel they were missing a big centerpiece model like the Lion from last year. The Lady of Ruin was kind of that but the danwbringer centerpeices have been coming consistently so the awe factor wasnt there.

[@maxspooky8991]

Why are we all pretending that we got a full reveal of wh 40k 10th edition at adepticon last year? All they showed us last year was a trailer, a single terminator, and a single termagant. Why are we always just more mad about aos. Jay you were literally there in person lmao

[@calebbarnhouse496]

2 units one for each faction and the cinematic trailer is a lot more then just a cinematic trailer

[@sovietstarfishproductions5019]

im getting the Brood-brothers to help with Traitor guard conversions. swapping the cult icon to khorne icons for the Bloodpact and so on

[@astral_ragtime5365]

Not Jakhals?

[@ant6227]

I certainly don't shy away from criticizing GW normally but I think you're actually off the mark with this one. First off Necromunda and HH were listed a teasers in their marketing, which to me was an indication we wouldn't see models and that's an improvement in my book. I'd like to see them continue to separate teasers from reveals in their marketing before these reveals just so we can manage expectations. Now why they counted AoS as a reveal...who knows, guess they felt announcing the new edition was something but I agree they should have had models for AoS at least. Regarding the pre recording, it was 3AM their time, I can't really blame them and if whatever the next show they do reveals on is local for them I expect we'll see a true live show again.

[@KaleNordyke]

Valkia is the one with a mouthy shield.

[@gammothdraws]

Yes! I got it right, yay to Total war knowledge!

[@zidahya]

I love Valkia as a model, unfortunatle I only have the fail cast.

[@KaleNordyke]

I agree, it is an amazing model @@zidahya

[@wilsun3638]

Valkia the mummy

[@KaleNordyke]

Awh, too true @@wilsun3638

[@travisd2895]

Lied? that's a bit of a stretch. They did show stuff off for the games. The necro and 30k was said it would be a teaser. There was a reveal cinematic trailer that was super rad to watch. Then they talked about each thing like they always do! I actually learned some things. Ya'll acting like GW owes us something. Like we are entitled to know allllll of the things. Just sit back and chill, enjoy what we are getting and be amazed when you finally see the thing you want to see. We will see the box contents in May. Go paint your models.

[@thomads3890]

We might be joking about "bigger = more important" - but looking at those chaos lords, I cannot help but think "man, they're just the same size as chaos marines, they basically don't stand out at all" - nd i think this is true, you could easily put them into regular squads and "count as" for a regular marine or raptor them - and nobody would bat an eye. In a way, those Chaoslords are too GENERIC

[@adamsmith8765]

Same can be said aboutt primaris lieutenants and even some captains. Best thing to do is make them an epic base so they stand out significantly more.

[@alh.21]

@@adamsmith8765This is chaos, the more experienced/corrupted marines are literally supposed to be larger

[@snoophogg85]

I think if people didn't like the format they will change it, which is good, it's good to try new things even if they don't work. They didn't lie about anything, though. They literally said Heresy and Necromunda would be teasers and announcing a bunch of stuff for AoS, including a new edition and the return of a faction, is still big news!

[@jack-a-lopium]

Don't criticise KZbinrs, they are the chosen ones and can never be wrong. But yeah, weird thing to say... generally people don't accuse people of stuff like that so casually... but... KZbinrs! Fart Joke!

[@brokenheroics8223]

Theory: Sigmar Lied means that Sigmar is taking souls not promised to him. The Hammer and Bolter animation sort of touches on it. That is all.

[@TheDarkChaplain]

It's been a running theme since 1st edition, really. Nagash has been very upset about it. Sigmar just takes what he doesn't truly own, and it'd be nice if this was starting to backfire on him in 4th.

[@josephmarkese8563]

This Is a surpise to us?

[@connendarf3857]

The Veterans battleforce has 220 more points than the Talons, but all of the Talons units have bad points per dollar ratios. The only exception is the Warp Talons actually, which has better ppd than almost the entire Vets box's units

[@DefaultProphet]

With current points but they’re for a new codex so new points

[@connendarf3857]

@@DefaultProphet it's always going to change, but I'm giving a sense of scale based on the present. There haven't been too many massive points changes between the balance dataslate and codices once they come out, so these will probably be different but not by too much

[@Josco83]

Legend has it they’re STILLL talking about Warcry and Underworlds. Other than that, it was basically a Sunday preview.

[@leonk.3739]

GW literally said on the banner you were talking about that 30k and Necromunda would only get teasers.

[@foreverfornever1124]

Thats what Im saying!! All these content creators I guess missed that or expected model reveals anyways. It was just too overhyped and some in the community fell for it. I didnt understand the hate at all. I could understand the AoS trailer not coming with a model reveal since the 40k 10th ed traier showed of a terminator but thats it.

[@nap0038]

The Patriarch having double activations (meaning it can activate twice per turning point) was the natural progression of this Kill Team edition’s mechanics. I’m not CRAZY over ANOTHER guard team and ANOTHER scout team, but that patriarch at least saves the boring guardsmen.

[@pancakemogul]

4:02 What do you mean you built the kit?

[@MiniatureMasterClass]

I didn't mind the talking. I'd much rather hear from the game/model designers than the social media guys who just praise everything. Instead of just shooting talking heads, we should got lots of video of the models with them talking over it.

[@CliffordBrammer]

to be fair, they did just say there was teasers for necromunda and horus heresy and not previews

[@BeastWreck]

My son and I were sitting about 2/3 of the way back in the middle. We could barely see over people’s heads because the screens weren’t high enough, I could barely hear what they were saying because the acoustics were bad (and a few of those British lads talk way too fast), and I couldn’t tell what I was looking at during the model reveals because they either showed a huge group of them on screen at once so they were all tiny, OR they were panning across a diorama shot where the models AND the background were cast in 2-colored lighting so the models just blended into the background and you couldn’t tell what you were looking at. When we got back to the hotel room, we just looked at everything online. We will likely skip the “live” preview next year.

[@BaylienofAszune]

The bees should inflict -1 to hit rolls, you know, because the would be "in my eyes, ahh, not the bees"

[@animusvids]

I didn't mind all the talking, but they should've shown the nice pictures while the guys where talking

[@joelgonzalez2723]

What are You doing here? Go to the sigilita and rocha :v

[@guleri]

I didn't see the reveal, but I went to the community page after, and they have nice articles with pictures there.

[@jameslisle22]

Honestly the best way to get reveals. The only way for me Good static pictures that aren't spinning with cameras switching and smoke and lighting effects. I want to see the models, not a film studies marketing project

[@GoBayside]

They consistently make great products, fantastic lore, and a piss-poor job of managing expectations.

[@Lord_Brownie]

The reveal stream was pretty goofy but I liked the info they gave for fourth edition, also the trailer was incredible

[@vitaliyred622]

"Horus Heresy will be another main game on the level of AoS and Warhammer!" Oh really? Also, where are new Raptors ?

[@Zeros_Hobbies]

Im wondering why we get more chaos lord but no new chaos bikes, he'll even a lord on a bike.

[@Helluminatus]

Just as an aside, they did make it clear that Necromunda and 30k were teasers and not reveals.

[@Mr_Waffle.]

Necomunda and Horus Heresy were never promoted as "reveals", they were specifically labelled as "teases" on all the warhammer articles...

[@KerkorDragonblood]

I’m just excited for new skaven honestly

[@AFAndersen]

"If you like Necromunda, 30k or Age of Sigmar, you kind of didn't get anything..." Bloodbowl, like last year, wasn't even on the poster! Why not show off one more star player for the Gnome team? Just anything!

[@michaelstythax137]

Hey did you go near the kill team area at adepticon? You would have been right on top of the ball pit from dashcon

[@goofyblocks]

I was so excited about aos stuff, and then they said that they are simplifying and rewriting it and that was super disappointing to hear.

[@SaltySeadogKP14]

I appreciated how much they talked about the rules after the AoS 4 reveal

[@boomer03n27]

I guess I was fortunate to watch afterward as I enjoyed the videos. I listened to some of the interviews. I found the most useful info was earlier in the interview.

[@chriswolfe403]

The first time I heard the barest bit of lore that the Stormcast came back a little 'off' after each resurrection, I knew the road to chaos Sigmarines was paved.

[@Gnomelotte]

I'm pretty sure the bee lady's tentacles are thorny vines, or whatever you call that, like those which rose bushes have.

[@Sharklops]

The two Chaos Marines have so many little details that they lose any easily identifiable silhouette. Ironically, they're TOO chaotic visually IMO

[@hephesto555666]

Personally I'm like 'another AoS edition'? Four editions in barely 9 years seems scummy, even for GW............the entire show was messy. Not to mention that all the side games reveals felt like 'Come on you chums, move over to the proper, big games already, we're bored of supporting the sideshow nonsense. Get with the program, we've got dividends to pay out.'

[@AcornPlays]

Editions are every three years and I thought the side stuff all looked decent...oh well, different things work for different people

[@whiphore]

Aos just doesn’t need new rules either

[@stylesheetra9411]

Editions are on a 3 years rotations in the big Gw games tho

[@mogwaiman6048]

AoS and 40k are on three year development cycles. I wish it was longer though.

[@hll705]

@@mogwaiman6048Should be five. Could have great narrative events three years in.

[@infamousjt]

The poster said Horus Heresy and Necromunda was a teaser not a preview...

[@mazt3rst3w67]

Valkia the bloodied is the one ya mentioned when talking about the spear lady. She’s a Khorne hero and is still playable and purchasable

[@janklevaivancic4263]

The deamon lady with spear and shield from OG Fantasy you were mentioning was Valchia the bloody :)

[@DylanGosseye]

Valkia*

[@SimplyAdriel]

I'm growing more and more disenchanted with every flying or jumping model/hq having more or less the same weird mid jump/flight poses.

[@andrewsimpson7647]

They had to make it like that, on the leviathan launch people used measurements to 3d print there own models before release. A few bad apples spoil it and all that

[@mycatistypingthis5450]

This "how" signifies the start of Jay into a full fledged corvid. The new Warcry idea of a sample size of models from a faction is great. Underworlds did this at the start, but warbands have become way too expensive.

[@stretch3281]

2:16 It was pan cam overload..! And also no new orks 😢

[@kennymartin5976]

I was surprised honestly. I don't know much about AoS but when I say "Sigmar Lied" I was expecting AoS to get all heresy flavored and introduce Chaos Stormast to mirror Chaos Space Marines.

[@Maulyr]

My mate and I much preferred the new format, getting some insight into the unit design from the guys who did it is far more interesting than hearing two presenters waffle bollocks and more pictures. I just hope that in the future, if GW keep pre-recording these they'll put them on at a sensible time, like not 4am, because syncing it with an event just seemed irrelevant.

[@NotSoMelancholy]

Man, that reveal stream just screamed “We’ve got money to burn” to me.

[@termi6523]

Jay: This year I'm focusing on my death guard and drukhari Also Jay: So I've been working ln my gsc... 😭

[@Meowmai]

Yeah I'm so mad we had TWO little trailers seemingly hinting at Skaven and then all that teasing is just for a trailer. They were just teasing the tease!!!

[@Beenevolence]

@11:16 Valkia? The Khorne Lady with the Slanesh head shield?

[@gammafighter]

Yeah but those dwarfs were looking cleeeeeeean!

[@petermartin9224]

To be fair, we didn't see the Leviathan box itself till warhammer fest. At Adepticon 2023 we had 10th edition reveal and two models (Termagaunt and Terminator). Also given history, practically everything in the trailer will appear in model form, just maybe not the quantity of rats 😂 Also Necromunda is rumoured to be going to hive Secundus which was supposedly having a Genestealer cult infestation. Regarding Adepticon as a whole, if I had gone in blind I would have been disappointed but because I knew the rumours before hand, I was able to set expectations at rock bottom.

[@RTRStreams]

No warhammer fest in 2024, so I wonder if they are just going to use warhammer community.

[@petermartin9224]

@RTRStreams most likely, or it'll get a special online preview. Hopefully not pre-recorded this time

[@foreverfornever1124]

@@RTRStreams my guess is Gencon as thats the next major convention and the largest in North America. Its also in the summer around the time AoS 4th edition should launch

[@MaxSDSF]

Does anyone know what start wars game/book is behind him?

[@seppingtondestamina9398]

'Tis neither book nor game but a model kit! It's AMT's "Jabba The Hutt's Throne Room Action Scene" kit, with what looks like a Tamiya 1/24 scale Volkswagen Beetle kit sitting on top of it. Nice to see Jay does scale modelling too!

[@MaxSDSF]

@@seppingtondestamina9398 wow thank you! I could not figure it out

[@tmarcb1296]

Necromunda reveal was to a certain unarmed hive city like the books from campaign didn't already say succundus

[@gstellar96]

The Brethren of the bolt are actually zealots of sigmar. So like an interesting take on Flagellants that let themselves be struck by sigmars lightning. Cities of Sigmar as a whole is a much more soulseborne style army if you look at their minis.

[@ArynCrinn]

I feel like I've been watching some very different preview shows in the past.... Usually an hour long with 10 minutes of corporate waffle between reveals. I just thought that was the norm. I still remember what I believe was a Warhammer Day preview in either 2022/2023 where they dragged out the intro for a good 20 minutes before the first reveal. That was extremely painful to sit through. I believe this particular show was largely hurt by the accidental release of the Darkoath box trailer back during the Warhammer World Anniversary reveals.

[@anthonywaggett9317]

If you are working on your Genestealer Cults then wait for Necromunda: Secundus because Secundus fell to the Genestealer Cults in the lore. I think we could be looking at a new box set GC vs ? Hopefully they aren't going to go the way of Kill Team and use this as a back door to new 40k releases.

[@josephmarkese8563]

From you mouth to GW ears.. with a large boot attach.

[@TheBrimfire]

those chaos marines where the most chaos marines in a long time

[@FluteGnome]

Old world was the best reveal, youngrim and plastic lord on shield was a very welcome sight!

[@goroshadow]

On adepticon the crowd got quite excited for the TOW dwarves and skavens

[@SituationNormalGames]

Three games, including the game the entire show was built around, basically got announcements for announcements. I'm cool with a new edition of AoS, I just wish there was something to actually look at.

[@GoneHollowMinis]

Bloated runtime aside, in the poster they posted about what game systems they'd be showing, they did make sure to separate Necromunda and Horus Heresy. It says "plus exciting teasers" for them and teasers is what we got. 🤷🏼

[@-moongorilla-]

The "exciting" part was a bit dubious though. AOS trailer/teaser? Exciting. Necromunda? Ehh, not feeling much hype (I say that with Necromunda as my favourite setting). HH teaser? Yawn.

[@charles7928]

I liked the chat apart from Phil Kelly repeating himself and the transition guy. They just need to chat over clear still shots of the minis, or even better a slow 360 like the ones from the store.

[@L0rd_DragoKnight]

I no longer feel as bad for falling asleep during the live show at some point

[@bauguilhugo9037]

loved this way of doing reveals, cause I just went onto WarCom, so I just watched the 2 videos I wanted, and still had 20 min of videos to watch to really enjoy these specific reveals, but I would hate the stream watch complete reveal. I guess new formulas are always weird, and this one targets an audience maybe

[@Darker1208]

i haven't stayed up for the last several reveals that have been run late. and I haven't regretted any of those decisions.

[@Estugon1]

I really liked the new format. It was my favorite reveal since a long time.

[@zawisy]

age of sigmar got those chaos guys with the last book before the refresh and they did have on the poster TEASERS for necromunda and Horus Heresy

[@Believer1980]

Okay GW did not lie. Both Necromunda and 30K were down as Teases on the event poster all week and if by now you don't know what a "GW teaser" is I can't help you . AoS got the new named Chaos Character , and the new Twin Tailed Crusade Saga book talked about, so technically, _YOU_ are lying 🤣😉 . Just because GW did not show any models for 4th edition starter set does not mean AoS "Got nothing!" While the 30K teaser was very poor, it was always said to be a teaser. The Necromunda one was better as we did see one of the new box set's gangs granted just it's silhouette. I partly agree with you on the new format , as I liked it. I liked the information we were getting and I did not mind it being longer than the normal hour, and guess what? I live in the UK , so being up until 4:15-4:30am is a bad thing, but as it was not the normal arse kissing of "ThE moDeL IS sO AweSOmE!" we normally get but news on why is was designed as it was, on the lore, on the rules, then I did not notice the time. However with them just showing the models in panning videos was horrid, there was more pans in that hour thirty then the entire Great British Bake Off show.

[@brionl4741]

"Too many fake words in a row". In Star Trek we used to call that Treknobabble. Need to come up with a similar word for GW.

[@mrmors1344]

correction. there was one 40k mini reveal, and an optional backpack attachment

[@ArynCrinn]

*Two. The lords are entirely different kits, hence why each is locked behind a different FOMO box. There's not a single shared part between them. And realistically, those Yaegirs and Brood Brothers will 100% get 40k rules, probably just without a lot of the specialists.

[@mrmors1344]

@@ArynCrinni know they are different parts... but are still the same base design but one with different pose and jumppack. its incredibly lazy. and the fomo boxes being only way to get them is bullsh*t.

[@ArynCrinn]

@@mrmors1344 We may not like it, but there are practical reasons for fomo boxes. You're not wrong that 40k reveals were rather lacking... but we're moving into an AOS edition launch, so 40k releases are going to be rather lacking anyway. We also already have a bit of a backlog for them to release over the next couple of months (Orks, full T'au, Custodes, CSM), at which point we''ll likely have seen previews for at least the next 2 books (GSC and Sisters). The real sad part of it all, is that even with the 10th ed 40k reveal at Adepticon last year, they still didn't show off much. This is just the way things have worked out.

[@mrmors1344]

@@ArynCrinnme having wanted a csm army; no choice but to try for both... and hopefully get one before they sell out

[@LiliaArmoury]

i turned the pirate ogre into an ogryn commissar

[@johniegrams3531]

never been to adepticon, found out i live 45 mins away, going next year for sure. too busy painting this weekend 👍

[@michaeltunnicliffe4935]

Hi, Games Workshop here, bringing you Adepticon, where we have lots of reveals [of our intention to reveal something] to show you. Want to see a logo and nothing more? We've got it. Want 1.5 seconds of an outline of something cool? We've got it. Want a trailer to something cool but no real reveals, just confirmation of something everyone knew already? We've got it. But that's not all, do you like Chaos Space Marines? Well let us show you a bunch of pictures of old models you already know about to confirm some box sets but no actual images of the box set? We've got it. And are you a MESBG player? Well we aren't even going to give you a promise of a reveal because we have nothing for you and haven't done for over a year now. But we haven't gotten to the best yet. What we do actually have to reveal is Dwarves for Old Worlds which we are unbelievably releasing slowly. We also have Underworlds and Warcry. But thats not all. Killteam has a new box which is not even close to release because we are yet to release the last box. We have it all. You will be so glad you stayed up until 3am to watch this

[@MrJopanti]

Back in the early 2000's they did it with WH40k. My whole army became obsolete overnight and friends and a few influencers dropped the game. But if you are 20 or younger you might have never heard about it. So they are playing like Disney with Star Wars with their "Legends" lol

[@BroodingEdgelord]

Idea: Convert the chaos calvary form AoS into 40k bikers

[@daili4917]

Good to know sleeping through the reveals at Adepitcon was a good use of my sleep, albeit fun chat is fun.

[@Altair796]

From a chaos space Marine player, I am swimming in those exact models of terminators and marines, the box is kinda lame. And I already have a bunch of Lords do I really need more Lords

[@john0815]

I spit my coffee when you told me a man coming out of a hors 👍🏼😂

[@LuceoX30]

By what you say, Bandai had a much better reveal in terms of both Gundam kits and 30 Minutes Missions' Armored Core VI: Fires of Rubicon model reveals.

[@Rook986]

I'm convinced GW was caught off guard with how popular Kill Team is and just made new teams out of 40k releases

[@foreverfornever1124]

thats kind of it. I look at it more as GW finding cheaper, conservative ways to introduce killteams while trying to juggle 40k 10th ed, AoS 4th edition, and The Old World. Warcry seems to be doing fine but I guess killtema had to take a backseat. I just think GW is trying to do too much at one time, maybe making up for all the delays the covid lockdowns and supply chain issues caused

[@ArynCrinn]

@@foreverfornever1124 Covid honestly hasn't been a real issue for them for quite some time. Release schedules are largely on track. Only real ongoing issues over the past few years have been skyrocketing oil/fuel prices. Last year also had a 10th ed launch supply requirement eating into various restocks, followed by the Legion Imperialis printing error that saw them have to delay it and reprint all the books again. This year, there's another edition launch limiting restocks, and there's also been some impact on shipping between China (where GW gets everything printed) and the UK, thanks to pirates in the middle east.

[@foreverfornever1124]

@@ArynCrinn we dont know what goes on behind the current though. For example Old World was rumored to come out half a year sooner. GW's constant issues of keeping up with demand alongside taking longer and longer to not only release pre-orders but have them fullfilled has been horrendous going on 2 years now. GW is not on track with anything currently. And yes I mentioned 40k 10th ed and 4th ed AoS already. Those do play a big factor and I assume were also effected by the shutdown as well in some way. I just dont think you understand how catastrophic it is for any company, especially a manufacture company to just stop everything for half a year. The type of schedule that GW runs that is reliant on constant new products was shattered. They are still trying to recoup the funds lost during those 6 months on top trying to get ahold of supply and demand again. Why do you think they are shoveling out box set after box set this edition. Also the GW webstore finally looks stocked again for the most part.

[@ArynCrinn]

@@foreverfornever1124 GW is a publicly listed company. You may fiend their financial reports from the past few years both surprising and enlightening. 2023 alone saw far greater revenues and profits than in 2018/2019 - before the Pandemic. Turns out 2020 & 2021 were actually amazing for the company. Apparently, when people have to spend more time at home, people find different things to do at home. If there was any real long term "negative" from the pandemic, it was an increased demand. Great for GW's books, terrible for consumers trying to get a piece of that slower increasing supply.

[@ArynCrinn]

@@foreverfornever1124 GW is a publicly listed company. You may find their financial reports surprising.

[@HORIZONHUNT]

It’s a *shame* they didn’t update the Caos Terminators! What a lazy release!😂

[@4lvarro]

men coming out of a horse... best description ever of a centaur!! 🤣🤣

[@Infantry492]

It would be nice to see GW bring out some models for the steel legion. They could do a nice kit for kill team at the very least

[@mochatoast887]

My personal problem with Ossiarch Bonereapers is i always think they make there models 50/50. 50% of each model i love and it makes me want to start an army. The other 50% of each model is just wrong and should not have been done.

[@evinoshea5215]

Are the knee joints for the the centaur back legs, backward? I think that adds to the model looking so weird

[@seppingtondestamina9398]

It looks to me like the back legs are actually humanoid legs, which given the nature of the Bonerboys makes sense, if looking a bit weird.

[@Cerderius]

I got an email that said "Something for everybody" and I didn't see anything for the Sisters so that was deemed a lie.

[@moderndavinci6599]

I think your thinking of Valkia the Bloody? In regards to the Chaos-dragon riding spear lady