Games Workshop Manager TORCHES Career and Leaves. Ultramarine Elitist Players! Hobby Nightmares!

[@azrael1045]

I painted my Primaris army in Alpha Legion colours and i use them to play any chapter of Space Marians and Chaos Marians

[@melvinbrotherofthejoker436]

Awww is Marian your boyfriend? That’s so wholesome ❤

[@alkalineatheris6171]

​@@melvinbrotherofthejoker436 You learning to troll or just a loser?

[@creon3866]

Never heard of space Marian, who’s that?

[@Zamasunumber1ningenhater]

I wanted to do that but i was scared pepole would get mad if i did that

[@Teutonicredneck]

Big Weld is a very round character from the old Disney movie Robots

[@critespranberry8872]

Robots was Blue Sky Studios, not Disney

[@B1-997]

Buttermilk Bob, I see the person from the first story is a Gamza fan too.

[@matthewtucker1578]

That story, about the alpha legion infiltrating the ultramarines, and even impersonating abaddon, along with the salty player storming off after ruining his own headcanon, was hilarious. Great looking models too. I may nick hat idea for my custom chapter. Well done Alpharius

[@Alpharius_Grillmaster]

Thank you so much, I really wanted to try and make a unique story

[@Alpharius_Grillmaster]

And you have my permission as a member of the hydra to use my idea for your chapter

[@MechbossBoogie]

​@Alpharius_Grillmaster I was thinking about doing a Heresy army based on the survivors of Istvaan V, so shattered legions but they're actually alpha legion. I think that idea would look really good there.

[@matthewtucker1578]

@@MechbossBoogie that would be an interesting take, and fits the narrative, given that legion infiltrated several legions during the heresy, and continue to do so

[@Alpharius_Grillmaster]

Thank you all for the compliments and thanks for reading north, I’ll be joining your discord soon and I’ll be able to send you the model you wanted to see

[@thehat4244]

Fantastic work! I'd thought to try something similar but haven't really gotten the drive. Glad to see it can turn out great! Keep up the great work.

[@eezergoode8588]

Dude your Alpha Legion guys look sick, seriously cool. That elephant who criticised you is a spunk trumpet. Hydra Dominatus!

[@docholliday9741]

That is one of the coolest paint schemes I’ve seen. Well done man

[@Alpharius_Grillmaster]

@@docholliday9741 thank you, all the compliments mean so much because I don’t share my stuff very often

[@lyndonjohnson5063]

As someone who worked in retail and manufacturing industry most of life as a manager in both i have to say GW is shit and disgusting am surprised they still have retail stores with those horrible practices no way I would recommend them to anyone

[@QalOrt]

That's chameleon cloak effect dissipating on those models is beautiful.

[@StigPrice]

How to get 5% growth each month... Referrals...litteraly getting friends to bring in friends... Until the entire town plays Warhammer... That's when you start putting Viagra in the local water supply...

[@nikot.9920]

As a semi-professional painter, those Alpha Legion models are phenomenal. That Ultra-snob is a total idiot, mad props to the painter

[@mattbaxter688]

Kinda seems like alot of trainers and corporate at GW got brutally picked on in highschool

[@darko-man8549]

That’s what I feel too. A lot of bullied nerds who brown nose their way up and now that they have a whiff of power they believe that those below need to be put in line or get bullied just cos.

[@JanitorScruffy]

I think a combination of bullying and not having a father in their life.

[@Capt.DanInJapan]

The shifting paint scheme on the Chaos Marines is a really cool idea. My only thought would be to make the bright line separating the schemes could be thinner. That said, it looks great!

[@Alpharius_Grillmaster]

I will definitely try when I get myself another box of legionaries

[@B.V.Luminous]

I like the bold line, it defines the cloak dropping. Experiment with a thinner line, but this works wonders in my honest opinion. Wonderful work!

[@Merlynn132]

If GW wanted to grow their business,they'd lower their prices. At least the "rank and file" of a faction should be available for low cost. The biggest barrier for entry has always been the high cost. Also,letting the stores rot is a bad idea. Players need a place to meet up and play. If they're going to play on-line,they might as well be playing a video game.

[@blitzkrieg8776]

Seems like corporate is what's destroying GW. Probably also the main reason why the cost of boxes have gotten terrible.

[@Buckaroobrandi]

It's insane, my list is going to have helbrutes in it and I'm dreading having to purchase them

[@LiliaArmoury]

if uk has something similar to australia's royal commission maybe there should be one into gw and how it treats it's staff. but that would require a uk government who want to actually fix things

[@thezombiemachinist01]

Listening to these horror stories I have to wonder why do people choose to work for GW and also continue to give them money. The more I hear, the more I do not want to try playing. And that sucks as I have numerous friends that have tried to get me into the hobby over the last 10+ years.

[@ZontarDow]

5% growth per month is 80% in a year, you aren't sustaining the type of growth companies put as hard to achieve goals for an entire year each month.

[@mr_geekchic2899]

I have A Dark Angels Fallen army and the shoulder pads are scratched with the Alpha Legion symbol under the chipped paint

[@317Victosenco]

Great job on the alpha legion. As a Ultramarine player this brought a smile to my face :) .

[@nineel7395]

I absolutely wouldn't be able to work at GW, I'd have told that trainer he was rude and filed a complaint about him. I've been in the corporate life for too long to put up with that shit.

[@JanitorScruffy]

I think if GW stores worked like that outside the UK, they would eventually wind up being in the news for the wrong reasons. Either because someone sues or because the school bully mentality of these guys rubs someone the wrong way in an American store for the last time.

[@joshingram6684]

Buttermilk bob... sounds like a gamza reference 😂

[@Alpharius_Grillmaster]

It sure was ;)

[@Bancannister]

Daaaaammmmm you gamzaaaaa

[@bantercane9996]

From my year or so of listening to these nightmares it seems to me that the main problems come from the Trainers primarily, I am surprised people haven't bothered to band together to either flood head office with messages or actively contact the one considered the CEO about them

[@dxpsumma383]

Not sure you understand how growth works, North. It's not inherently easier to achieve higher growth rates with more people. 5% MOM is crazy though, I agree

[@logandooley4426]

I’m amazed he did that abandon in only 6 hours it’s amazingly gorgeous

[@erikm8707]

You could also grow a spine and tell them off. People like the gw trainer is in a lot jobs and I’ve never been afraid to confront them to their face.

[@MichaRabiej]

I believe I know where those customer reports might have came from. Someone took offence and decided "that guy had to go". If "explain your sales" didn't work, someone wrote anonymous complaints to GW, and they were recorded. This is exactly what I observed to be done when an employee wants his company to go after other employee.

[@AtlasRathbane4346]

Tell us all u know plz

[@MichaRabiej]

@@AtlasRathbane4346 I know nothing as the things are describe were at a totally different industry, but it was the way person A fought person B.

[@LiliaArmoury]

how is what these trainers can pull what they do and not result in gw getting sued for their behaviours?

[@foulplay99]

I get really annoyed when I hear about people wanting to bring in 3rd party models bought elsewhere into stores to use in campaigns. IMO you are just rubbing it in the face of the store manager when you do that. The least you can do is buy the kit from the store. Liam who runs our GW store in Rotherham is a legend and always thinking up new stuff for us all to get involved in.

[@AtlasRathbane4346]

Lick gws boot some more,also get 8 covid boosters and save us from your gene pool

[@Alarios711]

"thinking up new stuff for us all to get involved in" "What a f*cking king always finding new ways to milk us" And no, I will not pay upward of 150€ for a few cents of resin, and a couple € in manufacturing/designing. "B-But-but the shop...." What the shop would lose in margins they could make back in volume if the prices were even remotely sensible. You are just choosing to get farmed by one of the most insanely marked up product/hobby/company. Actually you'd have a healthier hobby if the price was democratised.

[@mykyzer23]

Omg just confirming how much gw hate their workers, just imagine how much they hate their customers…

[@docholliday9741]

I’m listening to this next day but after hearing all these stories about games workshop, I am now 100% convinced these jackoffs all have mirror syndrome and have been reading WAY too much of the Eisenhorn novels. These trainers and managers all act as if they are Inquisitors and have wet dreams about rooting out heretics to the Games Workshop Creed. And Games Workshop seems to be run exactly the way the administratum is ran in the novels. The company has a clear disdain for its base, is intentionally convoluted and inefficient, and are seemingly allergic to the notion of doing the right thing by its customers even by accident. It is truly bizarre to watch. I am really hoping to see one of these other tabletop games catch on and make a dent in their market share.

[@whisped8145]

38:00 GW sounds like a Cult. I mean that. This is what you get when you complete Narcissist and Psychopath Control Freaks into middle management with zero people skills who expect and insist you lick the dirt off their boots the moment they enter the room. Pseudo-Aristocrats, entitled pseudo-nobility in a magic little universe (I don't mean 40k, but this hobby at large) that most of the world doesn't even know exists. GW, and thus the game, suffers because of them. How many good staff has been ruined, thrown out, because these lunatics that have no control anywhere else in their live and thus let out their sadistic tyranny in the job? The "trainer" in this story cannot be fixed with training, probably not even with therapy, but a padded cell he does need. I have met enough of such people in my life. They're cruel and a danger to everyone around them. Not necessarily physically, but psychologically and for life in general (as they will control the course of yours). Just think of how many good staff this guy already messed up before this story, and that he will mess up more people afterwards. The mistake lay with whomever promoted him into that position he couldn't be more wrong for in the first place. On his claims: Models were stolen? That's theft, that's a crime, and these models have lots of monetary value, not just personal, which also matters. Is the police involved? No? Then it is irrelevant. Does the shop have a security camera? No? GW's fault. Where the claims of theft made up? By a nameless customer? By the trainer? - It doesn't matter by whom, in either case it would be defamation, and that too is a crime. This "trainer" was very blatantly gaslighting the staff member with all those accusations on the last day of "running the store into the ground" and everything around that. That is a sadistic psychopath. When it's your last day, don't be quiet. That's not being the bigger person. The bigger person, on that day, tells him what's what. And you better have that recorded or a witness. That no witnesses for you are present for such events just allows these moments to become abusive gaslighting garbage struggle sessions. This is pure evil. GW has to root this out, or it will go down the drain. It's "trainers" like that that cost GW. That's the kind of person that makes stores go into the red. All these horror stories come out eventually. They pile up and fill a compendium as big as the Black Library. It makes it seem as if GW hates its frontline workers and its customers, fans, players. Such a company simply does not deserve any money at all. We believe GW only cares about money. Then GW should be interested into firing these psychomonsters, not the staff that makes their shops turn a profit and build a happy cohesive gaming community. Happy Customers come back. A good store manager is everything. The one we had here until she needed to quit for health reasons turned insane numbers of sales. Because she was just so pleasant to talk with, had such enthusiasm for the game and the world, with all its flaws, and didn't push crap onto the customers. She figured out what people actually needed and was right for them, not overselling them, and that's why they came back for more later.

[@TheGarthinator]

So many of these stories sound so similar, it really makes me not like GW a whole lot. I remember a few years ago when I was really involved in the hobby, and there were people kinda hoping someone would come along and give a viable alternative to GW. I kinda wonder if that would be a good thing

[@Mbeluba]

You don't need another gw. There are other systems from other companies, there are things like OnePageRules and there are 3d printers. GeeDubz is irrelevant

[@stepheneaton4978]

Star Wars Legion, Infinity, Frostgrave, Stargrave

[@Anarcotyk]

Wow there may be some man-child in the hobby, but it seems the higher-up of games workshop are the worst of them, they feel like gods when they have any form of power over anyone

[@xilch0]

That's very true. I had two close friends get involved in their company. Both had awful experiences with management and killed any interest I had in applying to either store. After a lump heap of bullshit both friends had quit their respective stores, and we switched to a different game system and play at a smaller LGS owned by a local gentleman. Couldn't be happier since we walked away from GW.

[@kodepop]

I'd get fired the first day if I tried to work for Games Workshop 😅

[@Steveryan-f6v]

Happens that way in North America too, nice to see they haven't changed

[@dww6]

Are trainers ranked above store managers? What's the ratio and/or salary difference?

[@orporp3954]

Oh yeah just finished work. Excited for this Hobby Nightmares

[@artrobinson9310]

Man, why would anyone even work at GW with yarns like this

[@Nick_the_Salamander]

I am brand new to 40K and super exited about it. But I keep getting discouraged because I don't want to give that much money to a crappie company.

[@nobbymcnobs8721]

Depending on where you live you can rely on local hobby shops or websites to not pay gw

[@Backstabmacro]

Could always 3d print yourself or order resin prints of similar models for the army you’d like to play. Etsy sellers will regularly hand out digital coupons for their shop for decent discounts.

[@darko-man8549]

Go FLGS like Composite Games or straight up 3rd party. GW aren’t dictators who can do no wrong and deserve every penny.

[@Mbeluba]

There are alternate gaming systems, independent wargaming clubs, and there are sellers of 3d printed models. Also, I used to play with paper cutouts when I lacked the models.

[@JanitorScruffy]

My local GW Store manager is pretty okay but I don't buy from them because it's too expensive, so I buy from my local store which is 20% cheaper.

[@rockjock3]

Regarding why GW gave Dave unrealistic figures for his monthly targets, I think what I heard might explain it. I heard this from another youtuber (Camelot 331's) clip talking about his time working at Gamestop. When you work retail. NEVER. TAKE. THE. PROMOTION. (Razorfist actually said it) If you're making more than the entry-level worker, then guess who's first to get cut when either the company needs to save money or boost profit margins.

[@goodall18]

Most of the smaller GW stores only have 1 employee anyway, its run the shop or don't work there.

[@rantymcrant-pants9536]

wanting 60% growth in a year for an established company is absolutely insane. as are those models, beautiful.

[@ianirwin9480]

I had to stop watching this on my phone and open it on my computer so I could see those Alpha Legion models in full detail, cos they're beautiful

[@MichaRabiej]

I wonder how managers outside of UK and US are treated. Does language barrier protect them in any way?

[@stevenmcgrath5114]

Love the flame effects ! ! !

[@123123Bear]

they look awesome ! and that is a nice spin on the lore, i like your timeline, hail hydra! :o)

[@snookiefrye]

Bigweld is a large, fat character from the movie "Robots".

[@squoblat]

Holy shit, imagine getting a power trip because you earn 35k a year. GW corporate is a cult.

[@thorshammer8033]

With GW bastardry you either get a lawyer involved early to document the shenanigans, or you make a report to the Met that at the last training session the trainer that is the problem, called you a bundle of sticks and said he was going to get you fired. This way his career is now totally screwed as even if there are no charges he will have a non criminal hate crime on his permanent record that will show up in background checks. Never fight fair

[@warrie5759]

"Hand like a wet raw chicken breast". Bloody hell I was expecting cheeto fingers haha far out that's gross!

[@db7314]

I panicked when I thought he didn’t say it … phew 😊

[@geteavnroc2250]

I remember back in the late 90s, seeing those really cool pics of those large GW stores. I thought to myself back then, "Maaan, that is a hobby mecha! I want to visit there!". Skip ahead about 17 years, and i FINALLY got to go to a GW store in my local area. I was hyped!! I got there, and wow....was THAT a disappointment. The store was literally a tiny boutique store, with like 2 tables, and older kits. No real "hobby specialists", no wide variety, no deals, and the "events" that the manager puts on were just watered-down homestyle things that was supposed to get you to spend a ton of money at the store. My local GW store manager is a nice guy, and i appreciate him. However, GW is NOT consumer-friendly at all. Not in the least. Over the last 20 years, they've turned into a merciless capitalist engine with no remorse and no apologies. They are one of many examples of tyrannical companies out there, operating for the sole purpose of profit, while grinding down their fanbase with absolutely terrible decisions. But GW is just a small sample of this kind of thing. Look at Disney. Look at WotC. Look at cellphone companies. The list goes on and on. They hate us. We hate them. At this point, i'm just waiting for the volcanoes to pop out the ground, and begin visiting mass-destruction upon mankind to end it all in a glorious blaze of mother nature's wrath. We had our chance, we did some good, but its all going to hell in a hand basket now.

[@309freddie]

Clever idea! Nice work!

[@ultraego752]

Retail for corporations in general is just a shit show of mismanagement. Changing systems when not needed. Braggin about sales records but demanding cut hours. No overtime but bitch when 1 person cant do 8 people jobs. Its mind boggling.

[@thesleekgreek]

10:15 they are awesome, seriously lmfao he was blatantly jealous, not a soulless drone like he is

[@thrrax]

42:58 Same with the video gaming industry. They like cronies and ass blowers more than they need good and skilled people.

[@jamescandlish7097]

Buttermilk Bob 😂

[@USALibertarian]

5% growth every month!?!? Most businesses don't grow 5% a year. Even with the nutso inflation.

[@James_E-m8p]

Honestly, its games workshop itself that keeps me from ever buying a single model.

[@greywanderer5935]

As much as I find fault with Warlord, I think we were paid a tad better than GW.

[@kvernesdotten]

3:34 - DAMN YOU GAMZA

[@Buckaroobrandi]

It's sad how badly the good GW workers are treated, they're an important component of that company but are treated like garbage.

[@marduk9496]

Best channel on youtube! Subbed on 3 accounts!

[@ZontarDow]

That... Hurts his channel dude. Unless you're watching his videos three times.

[@marduk9496]

@@ZontarDow I always watch these videos many times, usually when painting...just put on a mix of his videos and paint away, think i heard every episode 5 + times. But yeah, it would have hurt him if i didnt do that

[@ZontarDow]

@@marduk9496 Well if you're watching them at least once on each account then it probably isn't hurting.

[@MrGad1]

demoralizing your enemy so hard they refuse to fight does seem like an alpha legion tactic

[@IvyMyki]

Not to be that guy, the alpha legion guy's models were amazing, great colour contrasts, amazing.... Then i saw mould lines... mate your painting is going great, but the attention to detail before is a small price Edit: 11:10 left model left leg, sorry again, but it shouted out to me...

[@craigerycocoa9669]

Big Weld from Robots

[@Marsuvee]

You're the one guy for me.

[@jeru_jj1161]

Deeeemnnn youuuu Gamzaaaaa!!!

[@dinnerandmovie614]

Oh gods, a gamza fan...

[@splatterbashpop]

first timer enjoyed the content, but please mute other programs if you are going to record was quite distracting, still i subbed looking forward to more

[@CrusaderinBlack]

I will never work for, nor buy directly from GW ever again.

[@ravenRedwake]

23:49 or work in retail/customer service in general dude.

[@StripesW]

I can speak from experience, thats true. Although I must say expecting some sort of tit-for-tat exchange really is just as entitled. People do not care about 'back end' problems of a store or company.

[@pontusvongeijer1240]

Man GW is the best company. 😂

[@omega1543]

Shit like this makes me want to pirate the shows and models just out of ethics reasons.

[@aarond1622]

I've played GW games for 34 years now. Longer than most players have been alive. Long enough to see how things are, the patterns. It is one of the most toxic games around and whenever someone comments about wanting to start playing my suggestion is to toss everything they have in the trash and walk away. I can barely stand my fellow players anymore and when growing up use to wish for a GW store in my area. Now that we have one, I can't stand the manager. Just a company shill who sounds like a robot with the same canned comments all the time.

[@KnjazNazrath]

I sidestep a lot of the issues by bein' a Necromunda player. Cheap entry cost considering the hobby as a whole, no need to update your models erry three years, emergent roleplay and an understanding that your gangers aren't legends of the Underhive, and the kind of community that forms when you're the guy who lets them know they're not the only one out there who likes a thing.

[@thehat4244]

Comment for the Comment God! Likes for the like throne!

[@Pinetree747]

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