Some Notable Vertical Shoot 'em Ups - Game Sack

[@MetalJesusRocks]

I've been meaning to add Galactic Attack to my Saturn collection for a while now. Nice overview!

[@NyquistMatthew]

The "yeah don't tell him, I'm right here dumbass!" joke is my favorite in all of Gamesack.

[@enshk79]

time stamp? thanks in advance!!

[@marinchildofkorn7798]

@@enshk79 3:30

[@enshk79]

@@marinchildofkorn7798 oh bless you!! Hilarious

[@kami3701]

Thanks for featuring Raiden. I wish there was a whole video on it with more info of its legacy & all its sequels.

[@QF_Dan72]

Soldier Blade, my favourite shmup because of the awesome soundtracks that are stuck in my head

[@TONYskittlezzz]

my beloved shoot'em ups of all time. .. 1- Raiden (arcade) 2- Twin Cobra (arcade) 3- 1943 (arcade/ps1/ps2/Mame) 4- 1943 Kai (arcade/Mame) 5- Steel Dragon (ps2)

[@TONYskittlezzz]

Hmmm. ... After watching this, I might order Raiden Project for the ps1! ! I never knew it came out for the ps1. ...Daaaamn! :)

[@Mephianse81]

Oh gawd, Joe's face at the end. LMFAO!

[@moogletized]

The music at 5:13 (the Raystorm / Layer Section II comparison) is "Kidney Stage" from the Konami Battle Perfect Selection. Perfect Selection Konami Shooting Battle - Kidney Stage

[@Mick2K]

Thank You!

[@BarendCombrink]

Thank You!

[@gunma747j]

moogletized it is also originally from salamander/lifeforce

[@binkybianco3654]

"... as long as they don't use my corpse for some kind of fuel or something" lol wtf? You dudes are brilliant!

[@cheesystick1]

I absolutely love this show. I have no idea why you don't have more subs/views, but I'm sure it will come in time. The quality of the show is just through the roof!

[@deniskenn]

I'm still wondering why. 10 years later. The channel still doesn't have nearly the amount of subs that it should

[@idonotloveofficial]

The Divine Sealing bit at the end is an absolute riot

[@Quimbyrbg]

Another awesome video. I love my SMUPs, but I am very very picky about the ones I play, so I picked out a couple of interesting ones to try later. My favourites have to be Raiden II(PC), Phoenix(2600), and Mars Matrix(DC) as they each have some amazingly addictive quality that keeps me coming back for more.

[@alphaascii]

Hi, i came from the future, is this "phoenix" good? I mean it's a 2600 game after all

[@Quimbyrbg]

@alphaascii It's so good that It's now my son's middle name.

[@alphaascii]

@@Quimbyrbg going to play it later! Thanks for the suggestion!

[@gleemason]

Soulja boy been real quiet since this dropped

[@stevesstuff1450]

"You're ruining our movie magic, Joe....." Ha Ha Ha!! Brilliant :-D Got to love these two! Great video - going back over the whole video catalogue......love it!

[@retrosoul8770]

Niice 14:38 Musha's "For the Love of". Musha imo is the second best soundtrack on the Genesis, being very closely behind only Thunder Force IV's incredible score. Great vid, love shmup games.

[@starsoldier1]

Cool, Raiden Project and Canadian beer in the background too!

[@agirotto1]

I used to love Truxton for the Genesis.

[@graphicsgod]

Wait!!.. Why did you stop??!?! Truxton is god!! Wait.. Why wasn't the all mighty Truxton not on your lists, Game Sack 😡😡??!!!

[@DanielAyy]

I prefer the name Tatsujin.

[@opaljk4835]

Daniel Ayy I prefer the name Bobby

[@stpierreorama]

Here's the essential list of all the best Vertical shooters on the three best retro systems for Shmups. SATURN: Strikers 1945 I and II Donpachi Dodonpachi Radiant Silvergun Batsugun Battle Garegga Soukyugurentai Gunbird Blastwind Shienryu GENESIS: Musha Elemental Master Dangerous seed Vapor Trail Phelios Vertex Truxton Grind Stormer Fire Shark PC Engine: Blazing Lazers Super Star Soldier Soldier Blade Final Soldier Spriggan Alzadick Nexzr Sapphire Override Sylphia Metal Stoker The list goes on and on for the little PC Engine that could

[@Godsgood111]

You forgot N64 Star soldier vanishing earth Your welcome

[@stpierreorama]

@@Godsgood111 Vanishing Earth is noteworthy but the N64 is not a shoot ‘em up system. That’s really the only game n64 has in the genre, its a good game but not great.

[@Godsgood111]

@@stpierreorama I was just being a silly goose You compiled some great lists btw Imo pc engine was untouchable in the vertical and horizontal shooter department, though Genesis really punched back with thunder force

[@stpierreorama]

@@Godsgood111 Pc Engine is among the very best in this genre, I like Genesis and PC engine the most for shooters. I would add Wings of Wor, Trouble Shooter-Battle-mania, Twinkle Tale, Steel Empire , Gaiares, Eliminate Down Gley Lancer and Raider Trad on Genesis

[@GreatChicken2]

Raystorm had been re-released on the XBox 360 as Raystorm HD. Should be enough to stop some people complaining about its age...

[@davebladegun3009]

When Dave makes the remark about hoping that no one disturbs his corpse to use it for “some kind of fuel or something,” I nearly shit my pants. What a comedic genius.

[@ALTDOK667]

Best game nerd duo on the 'net! LMAO at the ending!

[@GameSack]

@KollisionBR There's no decent autofire in the Lynx version, either. But anyway usually autofire isn't fast enough for me so I pound the buttons rapidly except in the cases like the PS version where it is plenty fast. As a result, the Jag version ends up being really hard but nowhere near as difficult as the dreaded Lynx version. You literally need to lay the Lynx on your leg as you play since it must be orientated vertically in order to fire at any decent speed.

[@GameSack]

@mazze84 Slash Fighter, maybe. Hard to remember but it's from Life Force.

[@andy7666]

What was that hype music playing when you were doing the comaprison for Galactic attack - that rocked! Galactic Attack was also called Layer Section or Rayforce in Japan and Gunlock in Europe - 4 different names for one game! I know the game as Layer Section personally.

[@tetrisdave]

@cityside75 Thanks!! We appreciate that.

[@108Stars]

Thanks for showing a bit of the Lynx in this vid! About the Raiden-port for Lynx: It´s not really messed up, it´s not finished. The title screen mentions the CES. That´s because development was stopped after that show, so Raiden on Lynx is essentially a beta. It was picked up for after market sales by Telegames. I am not even sure the game has an ending, some say it crashes after stage 4. With the Lynx having an active fan community, unfinished games are occasionally released to this day.

[@aslejoh]

Best part of the week is when you guys post your vids!:)

[@GameSack]

Wolf 3D came before Doom. You should watch our Jaguar + SuperGrafx episode. Wolf 3D was enjoyed by us both.

[@carlopton]

Five years later, I've watched this video again. Highly enjoyed it all over again. Still got my games. I think I will set up a Temple for Games and Gamers, and be the first interred in my custom Crypt. Game themed, of course! Gotta plan ahead.

[@Gogetaps3914]

GOOD SHOW AS ALWAYS GUYS, KEEP IT UP

[@tetrisdave]

@aslejoh Thanks! Best part of the week for me is reading comments like this!

[@acdc09]

You guys are great, keep it up.

[@M4R14NO94]

Joe's face at the end is priceless. Also, RayStorm FTW. It's one of the only reasons I bought Taito Legends 2 on the PS2.

[@Flokker]

Hahah, that post credits scene got me too hard this time, NO PUN INTENDED.

[@harrisagnar]

Great video, as always! Man that gold bar on the side of the Jaguar version of Raiden is HIDEOUS. M.U.S.H.A. easy? Maybe I was just being a perfectionist, trying to one-credit it or something. It's been a while, but I remember that game kicking my butt.

[@photosynthesis69]

You predicted the future with Soulja boy in gaming

[@Autotrope]

Yeah what's with the Soulja Boy reference he didn't scam anyone with a retro gaming device until much later

[@retrofox3084]

Raiden Trad for Megadrive! Total win win win

[@gunma747j]

RetroFox better than snes version

[@TheAlphaOmegaX3]

RetroFox Raiden for PC Engine SuperCD. Best.

[@doctorx0079]

Honestly, I think the music in Raystorm is awesome.

[@GameSack]

@cuklg We'll eventually get to that. If not, feel free to remind us! :)

[@RanyBx]

Please make a part 2!

[@GameSack]

@tetrisdave We could do it and it would make for a fairly easy episode. I'd just have to figure out the technical details on HOW to do it. I want to do it better than everyone else. I don't want to use a cheap computer microphone. I wonder if I still have my old sound mixer somewhere.

[@GameSack]

@dave4shmups Same as the HuCard but with an extra level or two (I believe) and some arranged music. The arranged music is alright, not horrible, not amazing.

[@GameSack]

Yup! Just a few miles from where we make Game Sack, in fact.

[@valgalder]

haha "well, we're not really friends, more business acquiescence." You guys rule.

[@tetrisdave]

@TemplarZK Possibly some day we might. That one will take along time to get some good video footage.

[@LLHgames]

dat ending tho....

[@ski9k]

I loooooooove the intro!!!! the music is awesome!!!!

[@lucariowolfomegax1175]

I love 16 bit and 8 bit shoot em up 📰📰📰📰👌👌👌🎸🎸🎸🎸😇😇😇🎮🎮🎮😻😻😽🍙🐉🐉🐉🐉🎊🎊🎊🎊👍👍🐺🐺😆👏☺☺✌🎉🎉🎉🎉

[@GameSack]

Duly noted.

[@catsniffingmania]

Gunlock is also a pretty fantastic game that includes the same "lock-on" mechanic as Galactic Attack and Raystorm. Good selection this time.

[@grubbergamer]

Great episode, guys! I've been meaning to add Raiden Project (and Raiden Fighters Aces for 360) to my collection for a while now. Should really get on that. As it currently stands, though, Blazing Lazers is probably my favorite vertical scrolling shoot 'em up in my collection.

[@snichelsticks8653]

..... did ya get the game?

[@Spolupyo]

Layer Section/ Galactic Attack was also released for the Windows 95 PC, and it features enhanced graphics, but an old 3dfx video card is required, otherwise it will look the same as the consoles versions.

[@Michaluis84]

Great episode guys! You should chek out Power Strike II on the Master System - its one of the more rare games to find but it really pushes the console to its knees - the graphics, music and animation are awesome, a real step forward from Aleste/Power Strike I. One of the best games in my Master System collection

[@TONYskittlezzz]

yes can't forget Super Aleste for the SNES. ....Or Space Megaforce (as it is called in the U.S) :)

[@amerikanish07]

Good Lord, Layer Section II on the Saturn actually isn't hundreds of dollars! I think it's time to finally buy an Action Replay Cart.

[@Michirin9801]

Omg I LOVE Soldier Blade! It's one of the best Turbo shmups!!

[@gamesessions]

I remember loving a game called Battle Squadron for the Amiga as a child - although it did have a trainer built in. Not played it in over 20 years, so not sure if it's purely nostalgia mind.

[@jasonz7788]

Great work Sir thank you

[@GameSack]

But the show is called *Some* Notable Vertical Shooters, not ALL Notable Vertical Shooters. I've had Radiant Silvergun since it was originally released. Paid maybe $65 brand new at the time. We'll get around to talking about it some day. We've talked about Ikaruga in another episode.

[@DanZero77]

Layer Section/Galactic Attack is also known as "Rayforce" in US arcade vernacular, and it retains the title on Taito Legends 2

[@brothercannon]

Casa Bonita? Is Dave the real life Cartman?

[@SapphireDensetsu]

Remember, it's SOME notable overhead shooters, not all. They may revisit this topic in the future.

[@GuverX]

Oh I LOVE the (Shooter Battle) albums! 5:12 The Life Force/Salamander cover is purely fantastic! kind of random pick for Ray Storm but... It works!!!

[@catsniffingmania]

@AceEbb77 It does... because they're the same game. I thought Gunlock (or Galactic Attack) was the predecessor to Raystorm, but I was too lazy to put two and two together in my head.

[@GameSack]

@robivy64 No kidding, right? Move to Denver already!

[@GameSack]

I took the tune from the actual game CD. I can't remember which stage or boss it is off the top of my head.

[@cybernator5000]

another great video! love me some shmup goodness!

[@RedemptionWarrior]

There's a vertical shoot em up for the game gear that I've been looking for. It's one I remember my older brother having when I was a kid, but I can't remember the name. Of the gameplay I recall, the most notable I remember is that the bombs/missiles that do the most damage fly behind the ship you play as. Any ideas?

[@Godsgood111]

Aleste?

[@SpiralPegasus]

Sure do. Video game music is one of the things I listen to the most. Pick a genre (rock, metal, symphonic, jazz, folk/acoustic, etc) and I'll forward you some excellent tracks.

[@sidearmsalpha]

LOL! Casa Bonita! First heard of that place from the South Park episode.

[@markn1090]

MUSHA!! Fav SHMUP ever

[@123doomdoom]

@dave4shmups It has 2 extra stages (9 & 10), complete with new stage graphics, music tracks, enemies and bosses. The remixed music is awesome, with stage 9 and 10 themes being my favorite. Also SR is slightly easier than the Hucard version, but the new levels are very hard. I would highly recommend it to people who can appreciate raiden.

[@GameSack]

@shaurz They made a few decent games, though they were all called "Raiden" or "Raiden Fighters".

[@GameSack]

Check out our WTF Episode for some Cho Aniki.

[@DanZero77]

If you didn't say Soldier Blade was a part of the Star Soldier series, I would have guessed it to be a Compile game (the "SC" in the corner, speed selection, and the power down one level after getting hit)

[@Shuey187]

I'm in shock that you guys didn't cover Raiden DX! Come on! As much as you guys know about and talk about imports, you couldn't include THAT one in this series!? Well, I guess since you guys ARE still awesome, I'll let it slide this time :P

[@GameSack]

Well thank you.

[@carlopton]

Raiden, I have and love. Soldier Blade, I have and like a lot.

[@GameSack]

@mazze84 Try to Star, I believe.

[@KollisionBR]

Another great episode, guys. But why not mention the lack of autofire in the Jaguar version of Raiden? And the soundtrack to Raiden IV is pure bliss!

[@wrestletube1]

Shooters month was great. Wonder what the December theme from you guys is going to be? Christmas and Christmas related?

[@YuukoEnjoyer]

They should have talked about the FM Towns version. That version is AMAZING

[@classickid2185]

I read a guy named Flokker's comment which said the post credits got him too hard no pun intended so i wondered what it was. As soon as Dave was holding a Genesis controller and said heres my favorite Genesis shooter, i knew it was Divine Sealing. I never want to see it again.

[@Wolfdragon92584]

Task Force Harrier EX is my personal favorite

[@TheBlackhawk2112]

I'm not sure if you have, but have you ever covered Wolfenstein 3D and how it was emerged from Doom? Wolfenstein 3D for the Atari Jag system was my absolute favorite.

[@mac5565]

I don't really understand why people call vertical and horizontal space shooters separate subgenres when they're literally the same thing rotated a quarter turn. Unless there is some fundamental thing I'm missing, there's basically nothing separating the actual gameplay of the two types. Diagonal shooters, though, that's a different story (Zaxxon) ;)

[@doctorlight]

wow these are some notable vertical shooters IMO

[@slavkei]

I'm curious- if you had to remake this video today, would ZeroRanger, Jamestown, or Eschatos make the lists?

[@Laros82]

Hell yes I love the soldier titles and I mix em up as well ;P

[@RedemptionWarrior]

I think I found it. It's called Halley Wars. Though, I think I will look into the Power Strike games. They do look pretty good.

[@Fyllis]

I think I'll go for both the TG-16-version and the PSX one. :)

[@valgalder]

Haha Galactic Attack was the best that you guys mentioned! Way better than Raystorm!

[@caligoclarus]

MUSHA was available on Wii's virtual console too.

[@MilesMeakin]

Whats the song name playing in the background when the raiden games are being compared on all the systems?

[@johnsundberg7697]

The music starting @5:13, during the sat/psx Raystorm comparison, you have listed in the credits as "Life Forced - (Arranged)" yet I can't seem to find this anywhere. Would love to purchase it if possible. Do you know if it is available anywhere?

[@basicfacekick]

2 years late, but I tracked this music down. It was worth the hunt.

[@PapaJoJ]

@@basicfacekick darn

[@parallaxcraze958]

Musha is fantastic.

[@SapphireDensetsu]

Vertical shooters on the GameGear? Well, my knowledge in that are is limited, but I think it might be PowerStrike. Look up the GameGear version on KZbin to see if it's the game you remember. But all entries in the Aleste series are awesome!

[@DuckAlertBeats]

'I thought Musha was toooo expeeensive' 'it does - but I have a trophy wife' oooooooo kkkkk lol

[@jaildesigner]

I really LOVE Raiden Project. I still playing it

[@klaudijevtrkaciteritorij4301]

This final was killing everything😅

[@TheHabitman]

Do you think the name "Layer Section" was an allusion to how the game's graphics were programmed and laid out? I mean, it's not even a word that would translate from Moon language... SSSSSSHHHHHHHMMMUPPPPP!

[@howardmalone3]

First arcade cab I ever bought was a dig dug came with a Raiden 2 board for 135