The TurboGrafx Mini - REVIEW - Game Sack

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Game Sack

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@katemoody1587
@katemoody1587 4 жыл бұрын
The audio lag is due to the linux kernal, and there is no way around it. The buffers are hard coded, and it would be difficult to make a fork of linux that handled audio differently. One of the few things the ios and macos kernals do well is handle audio on a 64ms timer interrupt (might be a little off on the number there). It eats in to CPU and bus performance a bit, but ensures low audio latency. This is why you can have proper real-time DJ software on those platforms without needing an external peripheral, like you do on android/linux. The input lag is also related to this issue. Buffers... A good approach to making a mainframe OS, not so good when that same kernal design mentality is used in an interactive device.
@GameSack
@GameSack 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the insight! I always find it fascinating to learn about this kind of stuff.
@Vintersorg88
@Vintersorg88 4 жыл бұрын
There are ways around that. Any powerful enough Raspberry Pi or similar, running RetroArch, can emulate audio perfectly. Yes, even input lag is kept in a minimum. I know there's licensing issues and stuff, but the Linux kernel isn't any obstacle to a good emulation. It can be done.
@SeveredLegs
@SeveredLegs 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the insight. Why is it that the SNES Classic was able to improve upon this from the NES Classic, considering the hardware is so similar? And also, why do you think it is that installing Retroarch basically eliminates this on these same systems? I have extensive experience with NES/SNES Classic and Genesis Mini systems, and I've virtually eliminated input lag and sound sync issues. Seems like Nintendo/M2 could have managed better, even with the hardware limitations that you speak of.
@Vintersorg88
@Vintersorg88 4 жыл бұрын
@@SeveredLegs Even though I've known about people using RetroArch in mini consoles, I've never used it that way myself. I test RetroArch on x64 computers and on Raspberry Pi boards, both using Linux based distributions. Unfortunately, I don't have any technical explanation of how RetroArch does what it does, but I know it's done mostly (or all) on software level. I also know Linux have something called Kernel Mode Setting (KMS) which, if used, helps even more with the input lag. Finally, RetroArch has many options for fine tuning that can help latency. I mess around with emulation since 1999, and have seen a consistent improvement over the years. It started bad, granted, but I'm starting to think it can easily match (or even surpass, in some cases) the original hardware. Maybe someone could throw you a bunch of technical articles and extensive tutorials, but... It's not my case. I just install RetroArch and everything goes fine. I must note though: 1. Some LCD screens are terrible for gaming, so you could notice some input lag on them. 2. Linux distributions are very fragmented, so results may vary. 3. Maybe it's placebo, but I think latency is even lower on some specialized Linux distributions for the Raspberry Pi. 4. RetroArch was not always that good. I first used it in 2012 and hated it. Used it again in 2014 and thought it was a little better. Because of that, I started a habit of checking it every now and then. Seems to get better with time. I hope I've been useful with my account. If you were waiting for something more technical, I know there are some articles on the web, because I've seen them around.
@linoxyard
@linoxyard 4 жыл бұрын
Windows has also options for low latency audio like the WASAPI audio driver, and if your application supports it you can even use ASIO
@JazGalaxy
@JazGalaxy 4 жыл бұрын
I still miss Dave, of course, but this episode really reminded me of what an amazing Job you’ve done to keep this show at 100% the quality level it always was, Joe. I still look forward to each episode just as much. Thanks for all your hard work, as always.
@inorite4553
@inorite4553 4 жыл бұрын
So where did Dave go?
@JazGalaxy
@JazGalaxy 4 жыл бұрын
Inorite he just had to step back to focus on family.
@samhillier9607
@samhillier9607 4 жыл бұрын
@@inorite4553 Aliens took him. That's the real story, but we are not meant to know about it.
@SophiaNyx
@SophiaNyx 4 жыл бұрын
@@inorite4553 There was never a Dave, Dave was a hoax.
@MattSeremet
@MattSeremet 4 жыл бұрын
@Winston Smith trash human
@tuffasgong
@tuffasgong 4 жыл бұрын
This is actually one of the mini consoles I would buy as I never had a Turbografx 16.
@maxxdahl6062
@maxxdahl6062 4 жыл бұрын
In the US you weren't missing much, I had two. But the library sucks compared to japan's.
@MarquisDeSang
@MarquisDeSang 4 жыл бұрын
Sadly the best games are not there : Keith Courage and Legendary Ax 1 & 2. Find an emulator on PC instead.
@sheldonirving9529
@sheldonirving9529 4 жыл бұрын
@@MarquisDeSang I think there is a hack to add missing games
@diablorojo3887
@diablorojo3887 4 жыл бұрын
@@maxxdahl6062 nihon strong
@dlaird88
@dlaird88 4 жыл бұрын
Same here
@SimplyAustins
@SimplyAustins 4 жыл бұрын
This is the best review I seen so far for the TG-16. Thanks for this, so much nicer hearing it from a lover of a console rather than just technical jargon. All about the feels for me, cheers Joe But tbh, I just got it as I love buying plastic things I will never use ... its becoming a habit now :(
@marcianoacuerda
@marcianoacuerda 4 жыл бұрын
Oh Austin’s here!!. Let’s get stuck in!!
@SpeccyHorace
@SpeccyHorace 4 жыл бұрын
Hold up Joe, Splatterhouse is in fact on the PC Engine Mini. Actually it's even better on there as it's not censored like the one on the Turbografx Mini.
@GameSack
@GameSack 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah a lot of people are mentioning that. My bad. The list I saw was in error. If I could pin two comments, I would also stick this one. :)
@AceTrainerX3
@AceTrainerX3 4 жыл бұрын
Yep. The TG-16 Mini has Salamander and the (sort of) censored version of Splatterhouse, while the PC Engine Mini has uncensored Splatterhouse, Tengai Makyou 2 and Tokimeki Memorial.
@Tom_Van_Zandt
@Tom_Van_Zandt 4 жыл бұрын
@@GameSack You can pin my comment any time, sailor...pin my comment right on my butt, if you know what I'm sayin'...You know what I'm sayin'?
@GiordanDiodato
@GiordanDiodato 4 жыл бұрын
it's not censored, they just changed the mask due to copyright
@AceTrainerX3
@AceTrainerX3 4 жыл бұрын
@@GiordanDiodato well, all the religious imagery was cut out.
@Artoliann
@Artoliann 4 жыл бұрын
Hell yeah! Gamesack at 2:00 am!
@reefchiefer
@reefchiefer 4 жыл бұрын
Hell yeah! Game Sack at 5:00am!
@erniesdeck7550
@erniesdeck7550 4 жыл бұрын
Gamesack at midnight on VR!
@BladeBlur
@BladeBlur 4 жыл бұрын
Oh boy I was waiting for this review since it was announced! Exactly because I love hearing Joe's take on things 😃!
@adeelchowdhry4284
@adeelchowdhry4284 4 жыл бұрын
He always does a great job w these reviews 👍🏽
@McRcFly
@McRcFly 4 жыл бұрын
This channel should have atleast over a million subs by now. Keep up the good work 👍 love every vid
@PutlerHuyIo
@PutlerHuyIo 4 жыл бұрын
It did at one point! But then all of the Dave's fangirls unsubscribed when he quit the show.
@DrGreenThumbNZL
@DrGreenThumbNZL 4 жыл бұрын
Dont worry the screenwave slobs add fake subs everyday
@cosettapessa6417
@cosettapessa6417 2 жыл бұрын
@@PutlerHuyIo really?
@MyRetroLife
@MyRetroLife 4 жыл бұрын
They should have included the Sega CD English version of Snatcher as a peace offering!
@naclynerickii
@naclynerickii 4 жыл бұрын
Well I played Golden Axe Turbo Graphix 16 CD version which included backstories for all three characters and looked/sounded like shit with everything else (minus the music) so I thought to myself "would I have wanted that or Snatcher in Japanese?"
@ChrisSaturn
@ChrisSaturn 4 жыл бұрын
Re: Fantasy Zone It's not a glitch that you're back at stage 1, you're just on 2 player mode. You alternated back to the other player. I only noticed because I did the same thing when I tried the alternate version... >_>
@GameSack
@GameSack 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah someone else mentioned that too. How does one begin in single player? Must be super easy to start in Two Player mode if you also did it the first time?
@ChrisSaturn
@ChrisSaturn 4 жыл бұрын
@@GameSack I dug out the old Fantasy Zone manual to confirm, but it's just the select button on the title screen to toggle between single or multiplayer. I'm guessing holding it down when the game launched was enough to trigger it.
@GameSack
@GameSack 4 жыл бұрын
@@ChrisSaturn That must be it! Need to let go immediately I suppose.
@emmettturner9452
@emmettturner9452 4 жыл бұрын
@@GameSack Could you heart or pin this or edit the description? I see a lot of people on Facebook criticizing you over this as if they caught you lying about the TG16 Mini. Even though it's obvious to me that it's a simple mistake that isn't even your fault (since holding Select is required), these people are convinced that you will not correct the record out of spite for emulation and Mini consoles. Of course, these people call it "gatekeeping." Prove 'em wrong, Joe! Same goes for the Splatterhouse thing. Simple oversight but they make a big deal out of it like you are deliberately misleading people.
@naclynerickii
@naclynerickii 4 жыл бұрын
NES version did the same thing too.
@Sarumaru
@Sarumaru 4 жыл бұрын
I love your end skits! Always puts a smile on my face.
@neogenesis7706
@neogenesis7706 4 жыл бұрын
If you'd stop e begging people would care.
@ShelfWarmer
@ShelfWarmer 4 жыл бұрын
the skit sucked, Joe only has one style of comedy, and it got old years ago
@dangunheadachron1603
@dangunheadachron1603 4 жыл бұрын
I definitely care fo sho
@neogenesis7706
@neogenesis7706 4 жыл бұрын
@@dangunheadachron1603 you should go out together and take him dress shopping too
@ms.ilovecotton9778
@ms.ilovecotton9778 4 жыл бұрын
e beggars don't give out dozens of games/prizes in return to the audience, put multiple videos a month for the audience etc. 🤷‍♀️
@GregsGameRoom
@GregsGameRoom 4 жыл бұрын
Always great how in-depth you go on these Mini consoles Joe. You leave no stone unturned!
@PastoKage
@PastoKage 4 жыл бұрын
The legend of Valkyrie actually got an official translation in Namco Museum 4. And I luv it.
@ShipwreckedMonki
@ShipwreckedMonki 4 жыл бұрын
Been binging the Game Sack back catalogue and I've got to aay- the current intro is perfection.
@BubblegumCrash332
@BubblegumCrash332 4 жыл бұрын
I see shimmering in my sleep... It's everywhere. I named my cat shimmer
@MissAshley42
@MissAshley42 4 жыл бұрын
"I realize that KZbin is probably overwhelmed with reviews like this. . ." This is the _only_ one I've ever seen pop up for this thing. I'd forgotten it even existed.
@awake4ages
@awake4ages 4 жыл бұрын
I'm surprised you didn't take the thing apart in this one when talking about the size of the machine, the motherboard is the same in the PCE mini so half the TG16 Mini is just empty plastic, lol :)
@PutlerHuyIo
@PutlerHuyIo 4 жыл бұрын
Which is kinda weird considering Japan is usually really good about ecology conservation and eliminating unnecessary pollution such as plastic. 😀
@sunnohh
@sunnohh 4 жыл бұрын
Huylo kind of, except when they burn plastic, individually wrap produce in plastic, and whale.
@KidNato
@KidNato 4 жыл бұрын
@huylo is thinking of the Japan he wishes existed. I'm guessing it's the same Japan that ISN'T the most racist place on the Earth. Bad news, no such place.
@mattjindrak
@mattjindrak 4 жыл бұрын
It's runs on a 32bit ghz processor with over 60 million billion colors onscreen at once.
@emmettturner9452
@emmettturner9452 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah, but that just means the PC Engine Mini and CoreGrafx Mini weren't very "Mini" compared to their originals either. ;)
@Welspoke
@Welspoke 2 жыл бұрын
Watched so many reviews on this product, and yours IS, BY FAR the best and most in depth review of the TurboGrafx 16 Mini. Only part missing, which I am glad I learned prior to purchasing one, is that a power brick that is rated over 5V could damge the system. Other than that, absolutely PERFECT! Thanks a million GameSack! ✌🏼😄👍🏻
@karimcheese7257
@karimcheese7257 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for pointing this out. I got an adapter on Amazon that's made for this particular mini-console to avoid this problem
@Subparanon
@Subparanon 4 жыл бұрын
It needs more Valis 2, Legendary Axe, and Keith Courage to tickle the nostalgia bone.
@GiordanDiodato
@GiordanDiodato 4 жыл бұрын
Legendary Axe is because of JVC being dickheads about their properties Valis in general is in licensing limbo Keith Courage's Japanese version is based on an anime, meaning licensing issues up the ass.
@jenningsmills5398
@jenningsmills5398 3 жыл бұрын
@@GiordanDiodato Up the ass 🤣 Its funny when you slow down and read the stuff we say all the time. My car was.. running great and then it took a shit!😆
@etansivad
@etansivad 4 жыл бұрын
You tube might be overloaded with reviews of the tg16 mini, but this this is the only channel I really look forward to their coverage of it :)
@CommodoreFan64
@CommodoreFan64 4 жыл бұрын
Same here, as many don't go indept enough, and/or just seem too afraid to give an honest opinion out of fear they won't get free review samples again.
@NefariousWes
@NefariousWes 4 жыл бұрын
Dragon Spirit also has an alternate arcade mode when holding select while booting up. One of my viewers told me about it.
@LeviathanRX
@LeviathanRX 4 жыл бұрын
Awesome, I played that at the pool of all places back in the day and then only ever had the NES port.
@GiordanDiodato
@GiordanDiodato 4 жыл бұрын
beyond that, the PCE version is a pretty good port of the arcade version.
@b.o.353
@b.o.353 4 жыл бұрын
Have to hand it to you, you’ve done the most honest and frank review.
@darkhierophant4914
@darkhierophant4914 4 жыл бұрын
HIDE THE HU CARD HAROLD!!!!!!! At 1:08 You are witnessing genius here! Thanks Joe, this made my day!
@muhanc.a.9299
@muhanc.a.9299 4 жыл бұрын
Watching Game Sack is like watching a saturday morning cartoon in sunday. Joe is the best, he is like a one man orchestra.
@alexjara2302
@alexjara2302 4 жыл бұрын
Snatcher in Japanese, what's the point? Dammit!
@technozombie789
@technozombie789 4 жыл бұрын
I was kind of hoping the TurboGrafx mini release would get capable people interested in doing a translation for Snatcher. I think there was never much interest before because it was available on Sega CD.
@conservefirst
@conservefirst 4 жыл бұрын
Google translate...hold it up to the TV and voila!
@vivisect53
@vivisect53 4 жыл бұрын
I did that with Google lens once while checking out a wierd Famicom game just to see what it was going on in in the story, npc chat boxes in between lvls.
@noahhildebrandt1298
@noahhildebrandt1298 4 жыл бұрын
I always appreciate your reviews on... well, everything to be honest. You go far more in depth and have the keenest eyes and ears for emulation accuracy I've encountered, and it's always interesting to get your take. A couple of years ago, I bought a TurboGrafx-16 in the hopes of having a small collection, but it's proved a bigger headache than it's worth (imports, CD only games, current price), so I'll likely be grabbing the mini once it's back in stock - none of the issues were total deal breakers for me.
@bhirawamaylana466
@bhirawamaylana466 4 жыл бұрын
19:10 did someone say hidden gems ?
@jlinms8721
@jlinms8721 4 жыл бұрын
I have seen a lot of other reviews, but I've been waiting for this one! You are the best retro channel on KZbin, in my opinion.
@maxmatson1578
@maxmatson1578 4 жыл бұрын
I want to get it on the Merit of "snatcher" and "Dracula X" alone! It was cool having you mentioned that There's a hidden English version of "Ninja Gaiden" it be cool if they did a OS update that did that for Snatcher? At the very least make the text English, and the Japanese voice with subtitles?
@Prizrak-hv6qk
@Prizrak-hv6qk 4 жыл бұрын
For $100, we SHOULD have finally gotten an English-translated Snatcher. There's probably a fan translation that they could've licensed for cheap if not for simple accreditation!
@ostiariusalpha
@ostiariusalpha 4 жыл бұрын
@@Prizrak-hv6qk There is no fan translation yet.
@KidNato
@KidNato 4 жыл бұрын
@@ostiariusalpha Fan translation shouldn't be too hard to compile given the existing fan translations for the older versions of the game PLUS the Sega translation. Has yet to be done though
@weihuatang171
@weihuatang171 4 жыл бұрын
md cd version can be English I guess, so it's not a big deal. Anyway, Japanese better than nothing, maybe some day you would speak Japanese for some reason like I couldn't imagine now I am able to read Japanese 2 years ago.
@devonwilliams5738
@devonwilliams5738 4 жыл бұрын
We can't have an English re-release of Snatcher because Konami is Konami and Konami is the worst.
@MVP_MAGAZINE
@MVP_MAGAZINE 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for keeping the show running 🏃‍♂️ I’m so happy that you’re keeping the passion for gaming and the show alive!!!!
@americansupervillain4595
@americansupervillain4595 4 жыл бұрын
I just got my TG16 mini, both of them. Amazon screwed up and sent me two, even though I only paid for one.
@migangelmart
@migangelmart 4 жыл бұрын
Lucky you. I only got one. The only time I got 2 for one (for free) Nintendo sent me 2 GC Zelda collections.
@Angultra
@Angultra 4 жыл бұрын
Dang you lucked out big
@philstuf
@philstuf 4 жыл бұрын
Had similar luck, but only with thumbdrives... Nothing so nice as a TG-16 mini.
@DrDoomPool
@DrDoomPool 4 жыл бұрын
I got two switch games after ordering one copy. It was gunvolt I think.
@Chaos89P
@Chaos89P 4 жыл бұрын
I somehow got two HDMI adapters. Not sure if I ended up paying for both.
@Beyondesp
@Beyondesp 4 жыл бұрын
That caption at 11:31, adventure music thats adventurous... hahahah great job there alone !!
@pcgenjin1
@pcgenjin1 4 жыл бұрын
Man I forgot Zack Morris was on the original tg-16’s box!
@chaseman94
@chaseman94 4 жыл бұрын
Is that really Zack Morris from Saved by the bell?
@thetylife
@thetylife 4 жыл бұрын
That's who I always think of when I see the box. But Zack Morris is trash !!!
@Ddaoud2
@Ddaoud2 4 жыл бұрын
@@thetylife ZACK MORRIS IS TRAAAASH! lol
@andrewsteele604
@andrewsteele604 4 жыл бұрын
Game Sack has been knocking it outta the park recently. Steady stream of good content these last few weeks. Keep up the good work, Joe 👏
@DailyCorvid
@DailyCorvid 3 жыл бұрын
"Recently" means in the last 15 yrs to me lol Retro head. Yes he has been excellent recently particularly enjoy these kinds of videos with in depth user reviews of stuff I want. I might pick one of these up, I never had a TurboGrafx16 so seems like a good one to try.
@TurbidTG1
@TurbidTG1 4 жыл бұрын
I discovered and love Game Sack ever since Mark from Classic Game Room just completely fall apart! I don’t even know what happened to him.
@danh2134
@danh2134 4 жыл бұрын
He started to charge to view his content , it backfired on him and ended up not reviewing everything
@Sirhc7000
@Sirhc7000 4 жыл бұрын
God, you just made me realize why I was so drawn to this channel. It’s totally like an evolution of CGR. I never thought about it until I read this.
@thepumpkingking8339
@thepumpkingking8339 4 жыл бұрын
@@danh2134 Don't forget cgrundertow as well.
@TurbidTG1
@TurbidTG1 4 жыл бұрын
Dan H Didn’t he get upset so he hasn’t done any since and apparently he only reviews comic books half heartedly?
@bohdankanicki2077
@bohdankanicki2077 4 жыл бұрын
After a 7-8 hour power outage, a new Game Sack waiting for me is just what the Dr ordered. Awesome job as usual!
@JohnDrivesAnything
@JohnDrivesAnything 4 жыл бұрын
I'm not buying this now. I wanted the box with the smiling guy
@tom11zz884
@tom11zz884 4 жыл бұрын
The smiling guy is like close to 60 now...lol
@chigimonky
@chigimonky 4 жыл бұрын
He looks like he was about 17 on the cover and that was in like 88 so he's probably around 48-50 right now.
@billcook4768
@billcook4768 4 жыл бұрын
That's why god invented sharpies.
@JohnDrivesAnything
@JohnDrivesAnything 4 жыл бұрын
@@darthkai8242 I'm still getting it I was just being sarcastic and appreciating Joes smiling guy observation.
@jimserson2723
@jimserson2723 4 жыл бұрын
Joe, even if everyone's already talked about it, please know their are so many that wait for YOU to talk about it. Keep it up man! Talk about anything you want.... we're listening!
@JoeyJ0J0
@JoeyJ0J0 4 жыл бұрын
I have been playing Snatcher on this system, even if I cant understand it, glad I played the Sega CD version
@tundramonkey
@tundramonkey 4 жыл бұрын
The TurboGrafx 16 will always have a place in my heart. I was 16 when it FINALLY came out, and it was the first system I bought with my own "big-boy money" from a summer job. It felt light years ahead of the NES, and as much as I liked the looks of the upcoming Genesis, I just had to have that CD drive after seeing Ys book I&II at an import games store. I delighted in showing off the system to friends and watching their minds implode over the size of the TurboChips. Also, putting "Turbo" in front of everything sounded so legit back then!
@Loonistrator
@Loonistrator 4 жыл бұрын
The PC Engine is still my favourite console of all time.
@Dreaded4Saken
@Dreaded4Saken 4 жыл бұрын
i was like, im not gonna laugh at whatever end video sketch he does. THEN BAM, you hit me deep in the feels and chuckles. great video!
@NipplesTheEnchilada2323
@NipplesTheEnchilada2323 4 жыл бұрын
I hope this becomes moddable in the future, like the other mini consoles, as some of the games on the PC-Engine side need to get a translation patch on them, like Snatcher for example.
@DieHardjagged
@DieHardjagged 4 жыл бұрын
@Marc Carran I mean heck... even a Raspberry Pi should be able to fully emulate this system.
@jet9385
@jet9385 4 жыл бұрын
The d-pads do loosen up over time and feel especially good after that, even though I don't mind the slightly stiffer d-pad anyway. It's worth mentioning that it seems fairly easy to fry the USB controller ports on this thing. Everyone should be sure to use exactly a 5V 2amp phone charger to power this mini.
@jamesburchill7522
@jamesburchill7522 4 жыл бұрын
Uploaded 3 minutes ago, already a dislike. Seems legit. Must be RGT85 or something.
@SumDumGy
@SumDumGy 4 жыл бұрын
I always assume its Stevie Richards because he doesn’t get a cameo in each episode’s opening.
@anegwa
@anegwa 4 жыл бұрын
Who are either of these people?
@waltersobchak7275
@waltersobchak7275 4 жыл бұрын
@@anegwa yeah exactly who
@midievalcat7770
@midievalcat7770 4 жыл бұрын
I think that they should have just released the Turbo Express console with the ability to output HDMI, kinda like a Nomad
@newtypepunk9967
@newtypepunk9967 4 жыл бұрын
Now that is something I would definitely buy.
@CommodoreFan64
@CommodoreFan64 4 жыл бұрын
I've always been a fan on of handheld consoles, and would have been all over something like this. the only thing I'd want beside the HDMI out, would be USB C charging, and an easy to replace battery, as nothing pisses me off more then having to take something 1/2 apart with tiny oddball screws, and a plastic spluger to relacing a dying battery while trying not to damage the system *Cough* Nintendo 2DS XL/Nintendo Switch Lite *Cough*.
@GiordanDiodato
@GiordanDiodato 4 жыл бұрын
after seeing the Game Gear mini... sure you want that?
@jmatt781
@jmatt781 4 жыл бұрын
I really dig this mini console. It was a birthday gift from my wife. I have to say though, I don't really notice any controller lag, especially on Lord's Of Thunder, but I've also never played the original, that could be why I didn't notice it.
@WesCoastPiano
@WesCoastPiano 4 жыл бұрын
Great episode! Thanks for the fantastic and detailed review. Unfortunately I won't buy this because they left out Legendary Axe. Terrible move.
@williamg3165
@williamg3165 4 жыл бұрын
NintendianaJones64 Totally agreed dude! Brain dead move! Some of those games could’ve easily have been removed in place of it!
@scottp.548
@scottp.548 4 жыл бұрын
@@williamg3165 They'll be on it soon enough.
@GiordanDiodato
@GiordanDiodato 4 жыл бұрын
it's because JVC are a bunch of dickheads about their video game properties
@waltersobchak7275
@waltersobchak7275 4 жыл бұрын
I love how technical Joe gets. He knows his shit. Gotta respect his level of perfectionism.
@shymickey6
@shymickey6 4 жыл бұрын
Looking good, Joe, with that fuller beard. 🤗
@MYDOGBUD
@MYDOGBUD Жыл бұрын
I was a big fan of Turbo back in 89 when I got my first one, collected 300 titles US and Japanese only releases..sold the collection in 2002 and just seen today in 2023 they actually released a all inclusive mini then did a search and found a new one well below retail so I bought it...can't wait to experience this all over again..
@evilalien1741
@evilalien1741 4 жыл бұрын
good ol T.G. still rocks
@BenHeckHacks
@BenHeckHacks 4 жыл бұрын
How would you make the PC-Engine any mini.... er? Is it a keychain now?
@GameSack
@GameSack 4 жыл бұрын
Honestly... maybe! Just as long as it was big enough for the USB and HDMI (full size) ports.
@deanandtavonplumb7059
@deanandtavonplumb7059 4 жыл бұрын
I spent the whole of yesterday playing and I didn't notice any lag or sound delay. It's the 1st time for me playing a pc engine and so far everything I've tried has been great.
@subcon959
@subcon959 4 жыл бұрын
I feel like a lot of reviewers seem to ignore how much of a difference the TV makes when it comes to retro consoles. Some TV's do so much post-processing it introduces silly amounts of lag, even if they have a so-called game mode. That's why there is so much variation in user experience. It's a pity we can't all be using CRT's to eliminate that.
@billcook4768
@billcook4768 4 жыл бұрын
I never notice any of the picky problems that get brought up in these videos. I'm sure they are there, and it's good for them to be pointed out. But for many of us, meh.
@evilcrabsitchalways
@evilcrabsitchalways 4 жыл бұрын
MiSTer is my mini system of choice no lag, 1000hz usb input polling, flexible with controllers and displays.
@MrRaivokasMagma
@MrRaivokasMagma 4 жыл бұрын
Probably most intriguing of these mini consoles. Especially when it has also Japanese games.
@SumDumGy
@SumDumGy 4 жыл бұрын
Why? The Genesis Mini already did that last year.
@startedtech
@startedtech 4 жыл бұрын
woooo a nice fresh gamesack! And this is the first TurboGrafx mini vid I've seen posted!
@DukeDudeston
@DukeDudeston 4 жыл бұрын
Its the only one we need.
@GameplayandTalk
@GameplayandTalk 4 жыл бұрын
Been really enjoying my TG-16 Mini, but I agree that a bunch of the Japanese text-heavy games are questionable at best. Really wish there was a little more effort into changing up the lineup for the US audience.
@scottv2010
@scottv2010 4 жыл бұрын
Same. I'd love to try Snatcher
@conservefirst
@conservefirst 4 жыл бұрын
Use Google translate. Super easy.
@UncleBlasto
@UncleBlasto 4 жыл бұрын
The acting is really coming along , Joe!
@josealqueres
@josealqueres 4 жыл бұрын
Can't wait for this beauty to be hacked.
@inorite4553
@inorite4553 4 жыл бұрын
Too late. Already has been....back in March
@philstuf
@philstuf 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah, this little beaut is going on my A/V shelf once that happens.
@WalrusFPGA
@WalrusFPGA 4 жыл бұрын
the arcade version games that are exclusive need to be dumped. thats the real treasure within these
@Sturmx
@Sturmx 4 жыл бұрын
My favorite channel. Thanks so much for your hard work. Hope you both are doing well.
@williamg3165
@williamg3165 4 жыл бұрын
I must’ve been one of the 1% of gamers in the US that actually owned one of these. Hell, I even owned the Turbo CD. How many people has one of those? Honestly, it was a good system, but I just don’t feel it measured up to the Genesis or the SNES. Those systems had better libraries easily!
@creativecatproductions
@creativecatproductions 4 жыл бұрын
Come on dude, literally hundreds of people owned a turbo CD! You’re definitely not alone
@migangelmart
@migangelmart 4 жыл бұрын
I'm with the 0.1% who still has a TurboDuo.
@AzrialAlaria
@AzrialAlaria 4 жыл бұрын
I knew a friend who's friend's friend had a TG-16 and he brought a Hucard to school once and we were all like ooooooooooh lol
@ninjapirate47
@ninjapirate47 4 жыл бұрын
True, there are other reviews of this mini console on youtube... but they are now all obsolete. Thanks Game Sack!
@kevinhibbard320
@kevinhibbard320 4 жыл бұрын
That long controller cord is a middle finger to nintendo
@craigjuan5744
@craigjuan5744 4 жыл бұрын
Just as I was about to get some sleep! Alrighty why the hell not?! I need more Game Sack in my life! Thanks for the upload, Joe!
@JaredConnell
@JaredConnell 4 жыл бұрын
Joe is gonna have to answer to my boss in the morning when I'm too tired to work cuz I was up all night admiring Joe's lovely sack. Once i introduce him to Joe's sexy sack he'll understand I'm sure
@projectmayhem6898
@projectmayhem6898 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@GameSack
@GameSack 2 жыл бұрын
Of course. :)
@creativecatproductions
@creativecatproductions 4 жыл бұрын
Finally a GOOD review of the TurboGrafx Mini. I’ve been waiting for this review since the original TurboGrrafx was released in 1989.....and I didn’t even know it.
@level12fighter
@level12fighter 4 жыл бұрын
I only watch these for the outro sketch. Excellent as always
@richardcastro-parker3704
@richardcastro-parker3704 3 жыл бұрын
You can play ninja gaiden in English. At title screen by holding 1 and 2 then pressing select till you select English. However the next screen shows the logo etc on Japanese but it's in English at cut scenes.
@NeoVejiita
@NeoVejiita 4 жыл бұрын
Splatterhouse is on the PC Engine mini and it is uncensored (white mask version).
@onetwo6039
@onetwo6039 4 жыл бұрын
Never had this console. Just got mine in. Gonna hook it up with an hdmi to s-video converter and then to my sony trinitron CRT TV and play it as it was meant to be. This mini console is great as it's almost the same size as the original and will blend in great with my gaming setup and spares me the trouble of hunting down a console and all games.
@Chaos89P
@Chaos89P 4 жыл бұрын
I didn't know there was an HDMI to S Video option. I've been hooking my mini consoles to an RCA converter like some scrub. The CRT I've been using, despite having the ability to display in 1080i, doesn't seem to like 720p all that much.
@subcon959
@subcon959 4 жыл бұрын
It might be a bad idea to add to the latency that's already present, unless you have a really expensive converter.
@onetwo6039
@onetwo6039 4 жыл бұрын
@@Chaos89P you can find them on Amazon. They have relatively good reviews. Im sure it's just some product made in China, but it does work. I believe the brand is DINGSUN.
@onetwo6039
@onetwo6039 4 жыл бұрын
@@subcon959 you're probably correct. I do currently have a ps classic and a neogeo mini hooked up to an hdmi (2 in / 1 out) switcher and to the s-video converter and they seem to work and respond just fine. Of course it's not as good as true hardware, but it does work. I have a ( 4 in / 1 out) hdmi switcher that I plan in connecting the ps classic, neogeo mini, turboG-16 and my nintendo switch.
@onetwo6039
@onetwo6039 4 жыл бұрын
@@Chaos89P there is another design called tendak. Im thinking about getting one of those as it's let's use your own preferred cables and are not hardwired / fixed to the unit like dingsun is.
@estebancruz6194
@estebancruz6194 4 жыл бұрын
Cool system, & this is the best TurboGrafx-16 mini review I’ve seen so far. Nice work! 👍
@ShmupJunkie
@ShmupJunkie 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the honest review highlighting the shortcomings realistically without going into hyperbole about them. In the end it’s about the games and if it’s a library one would enjoy. Loved that bit at the end well done 😂👍🏻. Pretty much how the Turbo ads were back then.
@itallgonemad
@itallgonemad 4 жыл бұрын
The delay is down to the hdmi sound set up. In your tv sound settings (usually advanced options) find digital delay and digital offset or something worded similar depending on the brand and adjust to remove the delay, also if your tv has the option switch pcm off and choose stereo uncompressed, turn off any auto leveling and processing that will prevent the audio being re routed into the effects bus. If you are feeding audio via a modern AV/amp with hdmi you will have to also eradicate the off set in that also or just buy a non hdmi analogue stereo amp and use that.
@vivisect53
@vivisect53 4 жыл бұрын
From what others have said this this is common on these mini system and a byproduct of the os used in them all. If that is the case and if delayed audio coming out from the system it seems that couldn't help since it's not the tv causing the delay.
@ForrestCRedd
@ForrestCRedd 4 жыл бұрын
I know this is going to sound dumb but I want to say it anyway. About a month ago I started going through one of the most difficult periods of my life, the only thing keeping me from entering a deep dark depression is the content from my favorite KZbin creators and Twitch Streamers. Joe, you and, by extension Dave in the older videos, have been a constant in my life for the last month (though I've been a fan for some time), and I just wanted to say thank you. Because sometimes, some of us need a 2am video upload. Thanks.
@ForrestCRedd
@ForrestCRedd 4 жыл бұрын
@The Deadpool Who Chuckles. hahaha, no... Not quite. I dodged that bullet.
@phorm57
@phorm57 4 жыл бұрын
I'm just a regular old gamer, I dont care much about all the nerdy stuff but I do appreciate reviews from nerds. They look deep into things! 💯💯
@bluestarguardian7554
@bluestarguardian7554 4 жыл бұрын
This episode was really fun. From the transition at 2:02 to the funny comments ("Y's is on here just in case you need to desperately play it in Japanese for some reason"), and all the explanations about video stuff that goes over my head but is always cool to hear Joe talk about. Thanks for showcasing all the games, I think I'll eventually pick this one up even if only for all the shmups. Never had a Turbografx but like with the mini Genesis it'll be a good intro for me to the console. :)
@WHATISUTUBE
@WHATISUTUBE 4 жыл бұрын
this is a mini that is actually very welcomed, since a lot of people either didnt own it or never knew it existed. Thats where these small replicas are real good
@OreoChimp
@OreoChimp 4 жыл бұрын
I absolutely love your show and this review man. Im a new Game Sack fan who just started watching through all the years you and Dave have brought funny, brilliant game reviews to KZbin. As always I love your in depth analysis on the system units and your "tough but fair" approach to these emulation consoles. I love my TG-16 Mini but im also so happy to know the negatives to having this over real hardware. That why I wish your channel was bigger, cause you (and Dave when he was here) explain things so well that even a tech derp like me can get it. Lol sorry to ramble, but all in all, keep up the amazing work man.
@DailyCorvid
@DailyCorvid 3 жыл бұрын
Joe's sack continually producing quality as has been the way of things this decade!
@upyoursenator
@upyoursenator 4 жыл бұрын
Awesome review, Joe! I bought the TG-16 mini and haven't been disappointed...yet. The only reason I wanted one was for Rondo of Blood but I found myself enjoying the rest of the game selection. 16 MEGA POWER!!!
@EmilianoFraga
@EmilianoFraga 4 жыл бұрын
Fair and quite complete review. Thanks
@koentjeuuhh
@koentjeuuhh 4 жыл бұрын
I really liked Dave and just the opinions of two guys so invested in the gaming world thought me a lot about the classic consoles and games, and pretty much shaped my own opinions about the genre. That being said, I think the video's Joe makes alone are way more watchable and in my view a lot funnier. I really respect the effort you put into making reviews! So thank you Joe, for al your amazing work and I'll be watching you till either one of us dies:p
@DJ_InYourFace
@DJ_InYourFace 4 жыл бұрын
Great review! I laughed out loud at the box review at the beginning. And as a beard-wearer myself, I appreciate the beard.
@Triggered-RC
@Triggered-RC 4 жыл бұрын
I got one from Japan at release. My favorite mini may still be the Super NES (haven't played it in awhile), but TG-16 is a definite close 2nd.
@MixMasterLar
@MixMasterLar 4 жыл бұрын
I missed this system and only know some of these games from their other ports. Some solid shooters, Ys, Legend of Valkyrie and 5 player Bomberman make this tempting
@dangunheadachron1603
@dangunheadachron1603 4 жыл бұрын
You stole my name. Copyright strike.
@DesMondesBlut
@DesMondesBlut 4 жыл бұрын
Oh, Tokimeki Memorial would have been cool... I've watched High Score Girl a while ago where it was played in a scene and it seems to be quite the cult game.
@manuel0578
@manuel0578 4 жыл бұрын
you actually CAN hold SELECT on the CD games that use the 3.0 software version to boot them using the 2.1 version and you will in most cases get an error, but in the case of Rondo of Blood a weird mini game lol.
@dotdecorandmore7480
@dotdecorandmore7480 4 жыл бұрын
I think for people who are learning Japanese (reading), having the same game in both languages might be a good thing.
@medes5597
@medes5597 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah teachers have already praised this and bought them. I'm sure that wasn't the intention but it's kind of cool.
@chrisgardiner2215
@chrisgardiner2215 4 жыл бұрын
Fantastic job Joe... you have made up my mind.. it's a purchase for sure
@zake64
@zake64 4 жыл бұрын
Joe, are you watching me or something? My finger was hovering over the “buy” button for this thing not more than an hour before you uploaded!
@Vitamin_Dei
@Vitamin_Dei 4 жыл бұрын
Nice, been waiting on this. Already have one, but it's always great to hear Joe's take.
@SomeOrangeCat
@SomeOrangeCat 4 жыл бұрын
I love the way TG-16 music sounds.
@inorite4553
@inorite4553 4 жыл бұрын
Absolutely!
@devonwilliams5738
@devonwilliams5738 3 жыл бұрын
This was the mini I was the most excited for. I want something I've never seen before.
@Retro_Royal
@Retro_Royal 4 жыл бұрын
The Music / Sound of Amiga R-Type kicks TurboGrafx R-Type in the butt, ballz and face!
@Spintechfilms
@Spintechfilms 4 жыл бұрын
Nice, just when i thought id have to eat my food i didnt want in the first place in a grumpy mood, gamesack helps me out
@turron83
@turron83 4 жыл бұрын
Nothing better than after a 24 shift fighting covd19, get in the bed and there's new GameSack video
@PhilosopherGaming
@PhilosopherGaming 4 жыл бұрын
To be honest the mini has been so long coming that I completely forgot about it. Thanks for the reminder to buy it xD
@MoMovies1980
@MoMovies1980 4 жыл бұрын
Awesome work as always Joe. Keep the videos coming
@thecunninlynguist
@thecunninlynguist 4 жыл бұрын
Out of all the minis releaased so far, the TG16/PCE probably has the widest selection of games. Just wish things like Snatcher were in english. It is pretty neat if you order from Amazon JP you get a free mix CD, though.
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