Modern Accessories for Retro Gaming vol 2 - Game Sack

Episode 228 - WE're back looking at more recent developments you can get to improve, augment, or being your adventures in retro gaming!
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Terraonion (Super SD System 3) - shop.terraonion.com/en/
Analogue Super Nt - www.analogue.co/pages/super-nt/
AtGames Sega Genesis Flashback - www.atgames.us/products/sega-...
Gamecube Action Replay with SD Media Launcher - www.codejunkies.com/products/...
0:30 Terraonion Super SD System 3 Review
6:30 Analogue Super Nt Review
13:03 AtGames Sega Genesis Flashback Review
19:48 Gamecube Action Replay SD Media Launcher Review
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[@Screwy]

That Thunder Force IV comparison gave me a sharp pain in my core. Oh my god.

[@theyliveglasses4667]

Legitimately upsetting

[@sharpester7277]

With that one song in thunder force 4 on the @t games genesis I was like aaaagh that is the worst song I have ever heard in my life!

[@12ealDealOfficial]

The sounds of syncopated BK zesty sauce diarrhea farts!

[@JohnBeaversYT]

The last nail in the coffin.

[@Mykaizer]

Yeah, just horrible, but I was still able to headbang to it. It's Technosoft music after all...

[@Valhallian]

There are Hollywood studios spending hundreds of millions of dollars on films, meanwhile I have not been to a movie theater in years, I just sit home and watch Game Sack.

[@geldofpunk32]

Same even 5 years later lol

[@videogameobsession]

I highly recommend the jailbreak firmware for the Super NT. This will allow you to backup all of your actual SNES/SFC cart roms (and your precious SRAM battery saves) to an SDcard. A very nice feature, which up until this I had to use my old 90's SNES copiers to do this. You can also play all non-enhancement chip (FX/SA-1/DSP1-4/etc) roms from the SDcard with this firmware as well. A very nice added option to have. Here are the notes from the 4.5 JB release: All official v4.5 fixes plus: Added CopySNES. Lets you dump carts/save RAM to the SD card. Files are placed into /COPYSNES/. The directory is created if it does not exist. See the text file for full instructions. Star Ocean 96mbit works now. Changed menu operation so that if you enter the settings menu in the file browser, it can be exited back to the file browser by hitting select (or backing all the way out using the back button). Changed file browser operation so that if you attempt to back out of it, you get warned that the running game will be ended and you cannot save any more. In JB mode, tools menu appears on the main menu which has CopySNES and cheat codes. Cheat codes is moved into the file browser settings menu.

[@duffman18]

This needs more likes, for visibility.

[@meuchbueno4135]

was going to say this exact thing...you would think they would have covered that

[@redvenomweb]

Can you use the jailbreak firmware to upload save RAM (say, from an emulator playthrough) back to an original cartridge, like the Retron5?

[@matthenzel8930]

redvenomweb: I'm not sure which emulator the Retron 5 uses, but as long as the SRAM files are using the standard headers you should be able to do that with CopySNES on a jailbroken Super NT firmware. -VGO

[@timhouston8007]

Bluh Bluh Bluh

[@Gencoil]

The ending skit was amazing :D

[@trevorbozeman]

LOVED the ending skit! They’re always my favorite part! A hammer tester... HILARIOUS.

[@LonSeidman]

Agree on AT Games. They are desecrating one of the greatest game systems of all time. Over and over again.

[@isunshin999]

Lon your KZbin channel is awesome 👍🏻

[@JomasterTheSecond]

ATGames doesn't even give that good blowies.

[@michaelswitzer2121]

Gotta love the added clicking sound effects added to make game changing sound so badass

[@fjosh6]

With the Let's Plays you guys have started doing I feel like there's now the perfect amount of Sack in my life.

[@frishdawgz]

The werewolf death animation in Castlevania getz me every time. Beautiful

[@deadmetalbr]

Aw, man. With the state of emulation today, and the availability of good microconsoles like the NES and SNES Mini, that AtGames thing is unforfuckingivable. It really reminds me of the days of those piece-of-crap flea market NES-on-a-chip clones which never looked or sounded quite right. Oh well, at least we know that Sega hasn't turned their back on their mid-90s M.O. of not having a single clue of what the hell they're doing. Oh, and as one of your subs since the Game Sack theme song was a fart noise, congrats on 200k. You guys make every other weekend Sacktacular.

[@Chaos89P]

From what I heard, you can make a better emulation box for much cheaper, even if you manage to finagle a cartridge port onto the thing!

[@Randhrick]

Great episode as always . You guys should do another episode on video game music.

[@vash12349]

Thank you for bringing the gamecube action replay to my attention! I lost my gameboy player disk years ago and just cant find another affordable disk. It also makes it look much better! thats awesome!

[@ErinPlays]

I'm so glad you covered the Genesis Atgames Flashback console, I needed a new hammer tester! But really, I can't believe that Sega is having them make the OFFICIAL Mega Drive Mini. I'm just hoping they sneak some new top-notch unlicensed games on there, like Mr. Balls 2!

[@herbcruz4697]

Sega just never learns, do they?

[@GameSack]

Mr. Balls ended on such a cliffhanger. It involved him, me, and the power switch. Will Mr. Balls be able to overcome the easy-to-flip power switch in his future adventures?

[@Graytail]

That said, I'll bet the casing for the atg@mes genesis would make a real nice raspberry Pi casing! And then it'd be a much better genesis too =p

[@Daitokuji]

Kevtris just needs to make one

[@biffdandy]

The handheld version is alright because you can run most roms on it. Button lay out is lousy though. But I'd be down for a proper HD Genesis.

[@indiaalphanovember8217]

My niece loves the Genesis/Mega Drive Flashback! She's 5 so what the f#&k does she know.

[@AirknightTails]

Dude. Get her an Original Genesis, Stat!

[@DiscordedHaru]

You’re right, she doesn’t know at all. Get her an original Genesis you cheapskate.

[@indiaalphanovember8217]

@@DiscordedHaru dont be daft. I would keep it for myself!

[@thestripedmenace]

Well, every retrogamer has to start somewhere :P

[@DarthEquus]

What kind of uncle are you? That girl will hate you with all her heart once she sees a real Genesis on RGB, YOU MONSTER. :-p

[@TonyLikeGames2]

Congrats on getting 200,000 subscribers!

[@fidizila]

Congrats but it's madness that Game Sack has only 200k subs. Best Retro Game channel ever!

[@moviemetalhead]

@@fidizila Yeah but it's a dedicated 200,000 subs.

[@fidizila]

Indeed

[@duncanrathband5492]

Wooooo!

[@duncanrathband5492]

Best retro channel on KZbin!

[@streetmagik3105]

I keep an AtGames Genesis in my car, just in case I get stranded and have terrible diarrhea.

[@SomeOrangeCat]

It just leaks out the sides of mine. The fucking thing can't even contain diarrhea properly.

[@marakarthegreat]

I use mine to test my flamethrower

[@charvelgtrs]

1. Analogue announced a couple months back they are indeed working for a digital to analog converter for the Super NT and future systems. 2. With the Jailbroken firmware you can copy saves from a cart.

[@jrcmillard1985]

The “Super Nt” is the real winner in this episode! 👍

[@cambrodia3189]

That hammer tester bit was hilarious. "It works!"

[@Psilocervine]

"Oh man, a Genesis clo- oh... AtGames..." That was basically my reaction as soon as I saw the console.

[@TheStolken]

AtGames Genesis is unbelievably bad. I didn't know it was THAT bad, but it is! That's insane!

[@abzhuofficial]

@15:50 AtGames summed up in one drawing. Do you notice what that looks like?

[@alfredocanas6802]

40 fps is beyond horrible

[@abzhuofficial]

@@alfredocanas6802 Especially for games that normally run at 60fps

[@alfredocanas6802]

Abdul Hussain yeah, that’s what I was talking about and the sound is horrible, this is what happens when you go cheap and greedy with underpowered hardwAre and unoptimized emulation. I bet if they could’ve used a rpi or at least a license from retroarch at games could’ve got better results.

[@abzhuofficial]

@@alfredocanas6802 True that, but considering RetroArch's mission statement, favoring it to be a FLOSS project (especially with different emulator cores having slightly varying license agreements) and not to be included with for-profit projects, that option is usually out of the window, so the next best option is to code decent emulation software themselves, but AtGames obviously can't do that, even if they were to sell AMD Threadripper emulation systems LOL.

[@michaelgeorgiou4730]

Beautiful way to start a Sunday morning here in Cyprus, thank you guys

[@OldsXCool]

It's hilarious that both The Dreamcast Guy and John Hancock gave the At Games Genesis their stamp of approval when it came out. I'm sure it had nothing to do with the fact that they both received a review product for free. It takes so little to buy the little guy.

[@ToploadedGaming]

OldsXCool Exactly man. I dont care what John Hancock says, either he is too nice to give them a bad review cause they give him products (and we cant trust him) or he has a soft spot for sega and we cant trust him. Either way...

[@ToploadedGaming]

OldsXCool Im glad someone else out there thought about John Hancock’s idiocy during this video. I thought I was the only one. I wish collectors and retro enthusiasts would vote with their wallets and not buy atgames shit consoles so maybe Sega would go with someone else. I wish they would get with kevtris or retro usb. One package you’d get a FPGA console and a working genesis mini. Really show atgames and their idiot fans up.

[@VentusvsVantias]

I love this accessory focused episodes.

[@SumeaBizarro]

If you have a GBA and GBA link cable GBI is compatible with using GBA as a controller... Literally, it uploads software to the gba that makes it send Gamecube controller signals over the link cable, will work on number of games and GDQ TAS makers used same foundation for hilarious demonstrations by loading input sequences from GBA to gamecube.

[@rebrove]

This or using Raphnet's SNES controller to GC/Wii adapter adapter so you can use an SNES controller are the only ways to play the GameBoy Advance on the GameBoy Player. If you want to go wireless you can even chain it with the 8bitdo SNES adapter and use their bluetooth controller.

[@MrDanielchef]

I love your show! And thanx for the hard work.

[@rsmith02]

Since this video was released, you can copy backup files from SNES cartridges to a SD card using the Super NT and the latest firmware. It can't write it back to the cart, though.

[@stephendzul4295]

As usual, your video is littered with errors. For example, the blowies ATGames gives Sega are NOT, as you say, "really good", but are actually only "average". JK! Awesome video! XD

[@kristophermann6528]

The ending gag w/ the Atgames Genesis is by far the funniest bit you guys have even done.

[@EmilXOM]

The hammer tester clip really got me! Dave's delivery was perfect

[@thath4tguy]

Game Sack: "That'd have to be some really fast digital to analog conversion to retain accuracy. But honestly we'll probably never see that" Analogue: "Hold my beer"

[@scamazonprime]

You guys are upping your game. You deserve more subs!

[@hybridvigga]

When talking about the Super NT when you said "You can add extra sprites but I haven't noticed a difference", you're looking for the wrong thing On emulators etc.. Removing the sprite limit does NOT add more sprites, it removes the emulated 'sprites per line' limit from the original system, that causes flicker on the older formats (where there are two many sprites in each line, so the console alternates which sprites it draws per frame, causing the flicker.) It only affects per-frame draw rates when there would normally be sprite flicker, slowdown is caused by the CPU drawing too many things and running too many cycles, whether they are on the same line or not. Its rare that SNES and Genesis games even had that 'sprites per line limit' problem, but on stuff like Master System, NES and Turbografx emulators it is hugely noticeable on some games. Hope it helps, great video as always guys, you were one of the first channels I subscribed to on KZbin and I've never regretted it

[@albuttt]

Man. I love the hardware episodes the most. Keep up the work, guys! While I'm at it, any thoughts about the upcoming Streets of Rage 4?

[@almightycinder]

Alveldir Salvare Screw what they think! What does Bob Cornhole think about it?

[@albuttt]

almightycinder Good point. Though I'm most interested with what the Exasperated Gamer thinks, how much ass the game is you know?

[@anthonyjohnson9088]

Great content as always guys...can't wait for another episode of Playing with Sacks!!!

[@Chillywilly8818]

"Someone must be giving really good blowies" Hahahhja spat my drink out

[@NightFlyStudio]

That ending skit almost rivals the Sega Dreamcast one, lmao.

[@MiguelPaulettePerez-bj8ml]

I love a Game Sack that starts right out with Castlevania music

[@marklechman2225]

Love this series, can’t wait for Vol.3!

[@joshhood3703]

Love that I can just go back and watch or rewatch you guy's content and it's still relevant, entertaining and a good way to kill time

[@cartoonistaaronhazouri]

Dave lapping up drink out of the Atgames is the funniest thing I've seen all week (granted it is only tuesday)

[@tedcrilly1]

It's the little things.... the reassuring click of the tiny SD card!! :):)

[@RewindMike]

LOVE THAT Decap Attack shirt.

[@SuperBigD19]

Congrats on 200k! Keep going strong guys,Love the content!

[@GimblyGFR]

Great episode. And that ending skit ... simply brilliant. Great work. Oh, by the way ... we kinda need more Game Sack episodes. One every other week is not enough.

[@JosephLamb1989]

This episode looks super clear. Great quality as always.

[@skins4thewin]

Thought we'd never see that Digital to Analog Converter eh? Well, it just so happens that the Digital to Analog Converter (DAC for short) is available for Pre-order on Analogue's website as we speak. It works with both the Super NT and Mega SG to allow play on a CRT and will likely be compatible with future Analogue consoles as well.

[@AdamWhitmore]

That ending skit was SAVAGE LOL

[@emmettturner9452]

I would note that your Super Nt settings also rely on the user being able to disable overscan simulation on their TV (sometimes obtuse or impossible), as well as any other features that screw with the image (frame interpolation, for example).

[@videogameobsession]

Excellent show as always guys. In part 3, you should consider doing an update on the SD2SNES flashcart. With all of Redguy's updates it has become even more useful. All FX (StarFox 1 & 2, Doom, Yoshi's Island, vortex, etc..) And SA-1 (Kirby Super Star, Super Mario RPG, Kirby Dreamland 3, Jikkyou Parodius, etc..) Enhanced chip roms are all now working thanks to him!

[@renakunisaki]

Holy shit, SA-1 works now? Why am I just now hearing this?

[@videogameobsession]

Haha.. Yes indeed. Redguy is a technical wizard. The SD2SNES is well on it's way to being 100% compatible with the entire SNES library.

[@balazsvilaga8040]

Quality content as always,you deserve more subs!Love the ending its hilarious!

[@Caun-88]

"Gamecube qualifies as retro now" ....N-no....I refuse...to... please have mercy, Time. Good episode as always guys.

[@teen_laqueefa]

Wii is retro

[@gammleraffe]

Hello Sacks, you are one of the few YT channels where i can watch every Video at any time over & over again! Keep up the great work! Du you have any plans to review the Amiga 500? I‘d love to see you playing the best version of Turrican that exists! Greetings from Germany

[@abousono1]

I agree, this is the only channel that I watch episodes over and over again.

[@Skeletroy]

That outro skit was hilarious. Great work as always, Game Sack!

[@John-jc3ty]

7:19 if i ever have to design anything and it feels light ill just put some random metal inside, just to make it weight more lol

[@VitorBarbosa]

8:55 Hey that was one of the sounds that mini-boss "Vehelits" from Streets Of Rage 2 does!

[@medes5597]

"That's exactly right Joe" caught me off guard there. Dave's face and Joe's immediate reaction cracked me up.

[@roycecooker]

A new Game Sack always makes my day. Loved the skit at the end. I was dying of laughter!

[@drunkensailor112]

15:50. I see what you did there joe.

[@thedragpo7849]

Much appreciated for the link to the action replay. I've been trying to find a well priced one from a reliable source for some time. Great video as always guys!

[@skins4thewin]

One thing that really should have been mentioned is that you don't need to get an Action Replay that comes with the SD Media Launcher reader, as you can buy a generic SD reader for the Gamecube off Ebay for just a few bucks. The Action Replays that come with the Media Launcher are MUCH more expensive than just buying the disk alone. You're much better off just buying the Action Replay disk and a generic SD reader separately. They work 100% identically to the Media Launcher. Also, if you don't want to shell out the crazy money for the Gamecube Component Cables or HDMI adapter and have a way to get RGB to your display, you can import a PAL Gamecube and use an RGB cable for a 240p RGB signal. Only the PAL Gamecubes output RGB so keep that in mind. This has been known to give an even better picture than an HDMI adapter as RGB handles 240p signals even better than the HDMI adapters do.

[@tannerarnett8793]

That DeCap Attack shirt is awesome. One of my favorite genesis games.

[@smoketreez666]

Awesome show as always, guys. Thanks for years of hard work and entertainment.

[@benjaminramsey4695]

Oh-my-gosh, the ending was way above your average (which is always still good)

[@alfredogomezjr.2192]

The best Sacks on KZbin!

[@superpaul79]

15:50 The Game Sack ballsack.

[@videogameobsession]

Sega really needs to ditch @Games and hire developer M2 to make their new Mega Drive Mini. They are very talented developer who recognize how important emulation accuracy is. I love what they did with the 3DS Sega 3D Classics. They also did great work on Neo-Geo Station, Capcom Arcade Cabinet, Sega Vintage Classics, Namco Museum DS, Konami Arcade Classics DS, and many more.

[@synical13]

It's especially weird considering that they are working with M2 for the Sega Ages releases on the Switch at the same damn time. They should just get someone to do QUALITY manufacturing of the components and then let M2 handle the rest, but I'm guessing Sega are just being cheap bastards.

[@videogameobsession]

synical13: Yeah, they have a long working history with Sega. Dating back to the PS2 Sega Ages 2500 games. Those releases are where many of the 3DS and Switch games were based on.

[@briantaylorcloe7725]

M2 did awesome work with Sega way back in the MegaDrive\Genesis days, so they definitely should be teaming up more nowadays for hardware and software

[@SotNist]

What experience does M2 have with hardware design and production?

[@videogameobsession]

Probably zero I'm guessing. I'm not saying they should get out their and sclupt a Mega Drive out of ABS plastic, etc.. They would ideally be working on the software side of things.

[@tolust]

Wow can we get this into a permanent series ?! Best episode of game sack ever !!

[@Paladin341]

I can't wait for my Super NT for Christmas.

[@thunderslash94]

Best skit ever! So many uses for that fail, i love it.

[@guspaz]

Unless something has changed in the last few months, Analogue has officially mentioned that they're working on an analog adapter for the Super Nt (and all their future HDMI-based consoles). So it probably has a better chance of happening than not. While using a GameCube controller on the Game Boy Player isn't ideal, you can use almost any controller via adapters. You can use a real GBA using the GBA link cable, and adapters exist for almost any other controller you can think of. SNES controllers (via a SNES-to-GameCube adapter) and SNES Classic controllers (via a wiimote-to-GameCube adapter) are my recommendation. Raphnet's stuff works well with GBI.

[@orderofmagnitude-TPATP]

Congratulations joe and dave... 200k. Much love guys... you are probably one of the only retro channels i watch other than guru larry (and thats only because i have been following him since i myself was on gamesmaster in the 90s) ~ all the best now...

[@jpviegas]

Tkx for covering the nt mini, I have been wondering how it's doing 6 months after it's release

[@AGwolf2097]

Knew about all of these except the action replay media device, I totally want one now.

[@dabblerdeluxe775]

I still have super cd system 3 card in my drawer from the good old days

[@muhanc.a.9299]

Ha ha ha that gag at the end Genesis does what nintendon't!

[@Tolman18]

Awww excellent comedic ending! That was pure gold. Also, been a fan for years now and it's awesome to see you guys at 200k Subscribers. Congrats guys you deserve it!!

[@entropyms0016]

Listen to the review of the At Games Megadrive with the captions on.

[@colonelsandwich641]

One of these days you guys _have_ to do a behind the scenes video, the production values on these newer videos are unreal.

[@jkajmo]

My god I am obsessed with video games, have been ever since I l played my first game, pole position arcade in 1987 in Poland. And holy Christ I can't get enough of them. Thank god for channel too, it's the only retro channel that matches my love for games. Awesome shirts guys!

[@sentientricecake3125]

That Decap Attack shirt is so cool!!

[@MatSpeedle]

Awesome episode chaps! I can highly recommend the Super SD System 3 as money well spent! Saves having to find a CD add on, all the arcade cards and the expensive games. That ones a no brainier! Worth getting just for Rondo of Blood

[@1George2]

Great episode! Damn funny the Sega device alternative use!!

[@mikeberg6407]

Great ending skit guys.

[@Mercuriusfm]

just bought the action replay sd card thing. nice video

[@mws3779]

What's up guy's? It's cool that you are showing us how to set up the super nt. Thanks

[@tarikhopkins83]

Dave you killed me when got to that crappy Genesis from Family Doller.

[@The90sGamingGuy]

Loving playing SNES and SFC games on the Super NT. The system is one of the best for SNES games so far. I'll be avoiding the AT Games version of the Sega Genesis. I have an original Genesis and I am glad it still works flawlessly. Great video!

[@MrRaivokasMagma]

I read about that I guess upcoming Mega Drive Mini and t's made by same company that did door stopper. Didn't expect it to be that bad...

[@porkchopexpress9654]

Always informative As always great job gentlemen

[@PrinceMarcusWilliam]

I was hoping for an Analog Super NT episode on its own and nonetheless, I'm happy with this episode. Game Sack has helped me gain the purchasing confidence in both the Retro AVS and Analog Super NT. I'm all about using original carts and both deliver.

[@PSNationTorgo]

I freakin' love my Super NT and my Super SD3!

[@ManaNaito]

Great, now I have the overworld theme from Legend of Heroes stuck in my head for a week.

[@DaWrecka]

I never knew the Atgames Flashback was such a versatile and helpful product! Thanks, Game Sack!

[@iwonderifthisislegal]

Freaking love these dudes. Watched...and watched again 🤘🏽

[@omegaweaponredux]

Id love to see an episode on obsolete methods of running homebrew/emulation on old hardware.

[@MrHenrikAndersson]

I would love to see how the Open Source Scan Converter works with RGB Scart on the PS1 era consoles.

[@kutulukutu]

That SD3 is giving me a special feeling...

[@T4silly]

Showing off all that sweet Richter action, eh?