Firearms Expert Reacts To DOOM (2016) & DOOM Eternal’s Guns

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Jonathan Ferguson, a weapons expert and Keeper of Firearms & Artillery at the Royal Armouries, breaks down the weaponry of DOOM and DOOM Eternal, including the Super Shotgun, the Plasma Rifle, and, of course, the BFG.
0:00 - Opening
0:48 - Pistol (DOOM)
02:09 - Combat Shotgun (DOOM)
03:16 - Combat Shotgun (DOOM Eternal)
05:16 - Heavy Assault Rifle (DOOM)
08:06 - Heavy Assault Rifle (DOOM Eternal)
09:30 - Super Shotgun (DOOM)
11:47 - Super Shotgun (DOOM Eternal)
13:45 - Rocket Launcher (DOOM)
15:03 - Rocket Launcher (DOOM Eternal)
16:26 - Plasma Rifle (DOOM)
17:55 - Plasma Rifle (DOOM Eternal)
19:10 - Ballista (DOOM Eternal)
19:54 - Chaingun (DOOM Eternal)
21:31 - BFG 10,000 (DOOM Eternal)
22:25 - BFG 9,000 (DOOM Eternal)
22:59 - Ending
In the latest video in the Firearm Expert Reacts series, Jonathan Ferguson--a weapons expert and Keeper of Firearms & Artillery at the Royal Armouries--breaks down the guns of DOOM and DOOM Eternal and compares them to their real-life counterparts.
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If you're interested in seeing more of Jonathan's work, you can check out more from the Royal Armouries right here. - / royalarmouries
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And if you would like to become a member of the Royal Armouries, you can get a membership here. - royalarmouries.org/support-us...
You can either purchase Jonathan's book here. - www.headstamppublishing.com/b...
Or at the Royal Armouries shop here. - shop.royalarmouries.org/colle...
You can subscribe to the Armax Journal that Jonathan Associate Edited here. - www.armaxjournal.org/

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@GamerMoment_
@GamerMoment_ Жыл бұрын
Actually fun fact for the lore side of things, the reason why you see casings ejected from the gun is because bullets are teleported into the chamber, this explains the reason why you don't need to reload guns too. The super shotgun is the only gun that has a manual reload due to being a much older gun without the new technology.
@perhapsahigherbeing288
@perhapsahigherbeing288 Жыл бұрын
Huh, neat
@comiclizard9819
@comiclizard9819 Жыл бұрын
Dual Revolvers and some enemies' guns have similar system TMAR (Techno-magical ammunition replenisher) in Serious Sam franchise.
@proCaylak
@proCaylak Жыл бұрын
@@comiclizard9819 I always loved that TMAR concept and how Serious Sam has always been a snarky jab at "badass" classic shooters in general.
@boogerboy87
@boogerboy87 Жыл бұрын
Doom Guy is also almost a mythical god like person who normal gun functions doesn't work with him. Still interesting to see Jonathan talk about it. I also know he's also a big Doom fan as well.
@nucleus691
@nucleus691 Жыл бұрын
Isnt the DOOM 2016 energy pistol a pure energy weapon that charges from the energy the gun experiences during movement? Like a soldier holsters this weapon and while they are walking around the gun will charge from that. The DOOM 2016 lore entries for guns were super interesting and its a shame Eternal did away with those :/
@AVGNROCKS1996
@AVGNROCKS1996 Жыл бұрын
Once again I do appreciate that John is a gamer AND firearm expert because he can understand why certain gun work they way they do in games but still poke fun at them in a friendly way.
@sunbleachedangel
@sunbleachedangel Жыл бұрын
Yeah, I noticed that too, I was like "Wow, he's a gamer as well? Sweet! No weird cringy takes will be in this video"
@exoticdachoo007
@exoticdachoo007 Жыл бұрын
The guy who can go on forums and be the "actually" guy without irony if he wants to
@afd19850
@afd19850 Жыл бұрын
I love that he gets the form over function aspect of games. Does the chain-gun make sense, no, but does the cool and fun factor override that, yes. Jonathan just gets it. If its a real world gun that doesn’t make sense then its fair game, but guns like plasma rifle and BFG are using tech we can only dream of.
@mauroghen9157
@mauroghen9157 Жыл бұрын
I think he developed that "forgiveness" since early episodes seemed to have been more harsh with the "review"
@whyjnot420
@whyjnot420 Жыл бұрын
He remembers that entertainment products have only one job... to entertain. Anything else an entertainment product does is just a bonus. Something far too few of the "experts" in many of these videos completely forget.
@Asta0125
@Asta0125 Жыл бұрын
"Not how weapons work... not yet anyway." The man shares our dream that one day, we will have a BFG.
@carterjeremy89
@carterjeremy89 Жыл бұрын
He meant with removing a gun from it's placement and it turns into a mobile gun, isn't possible... yet
@DeadAccount53885
@DeadAccount53885 Жыл бұрын
BFG 50 exists, just 8950 more to go
@Tacdelio
@Tacdelio Жыл бұрын
@@carterjeremy89 patron saint john moses brownings .30 m1919 would like to have a word with you
@carterjeremy89
@carterjeremy89 Жыл бұрын
@@Tacdelio With me? I'm no Smith lol talk to the expert in the video 😂
@froggman66
@froggman66 Жыл бұрын
Hack smith better start on this soon
@Jenamphetam1ne
@Jenamphetam1ne Жыл бұрын
"the gun equivalent of a Conan sword" is such a perfect description of Doom Eternals arsenal that I'm astounded I haven't heard it sooner
@anndra8687
@anndra8687 Жыл бұрын
Conan understands the riddle of steel. Doomguy makes others understand the riddle of lead
@jessecampos4358
@jessecampos4358 Жыл бұрын
That barbarian skin in Doom Eteranl makes sense now
@olu550
@olu550 Жыл бұрын
@@anndra8687 His time in the Gungeon taught him well
@TeryJones
@TeryJones Жыл бұрын
If only we got a DOOM movie starring Arnold Schwarzenegger back in his prime. The road not taken....
@anndra8687
@anndra8687 Жыл бұрын
@@TeryJones It would have turned out like Judge Dredd
@JanbluTheDerg
@JanbluTheDerg Жыл бұрын
I like how he just absolutely correctly guessed the lore behind Eternals Super Shotgun based on the design. Yes! It's regarded as the Slayers original Super Shotgun, that was hidden from him by the demonic priests.
@AugustoEL
@AugustoEL Жыл бұрын
They thought it was the source of all his power, that is why they hide it.
@ryanmaroney1268
@ryanmaroney1268 Жыл бұрын
They had a fair reason to assume so but so so wrong
@DarkRavin07
@DarkRavin07 Жыл бұрын
They took a calculated risk... but boy they are bad at math.
@DamienDarkside
@DamienDarkside Жыл бұрын
@@AugustoEL That's his rage. His rage fuels him.
@AugustoEL
@AugustoEL Жыл бұрын
@@DamienDarkside oh yeah I know that, his rage is the main thing that makes him reject the simple idea of dying.
@spiderfloof947
@spiderfloof947 Жыл бұрын
Yeah, the Doom Slayer seems like a guy who'd run around with the futuristic equivalent of an M2 Browning.
@JoeMama34568
@JoeMama34568 Жыл бұрын
Yeah makes sense to me
@m91trooperfilms76
@m91trooperfilms76 Жыл бұрын
Especially since what makes it even better is that in Cannon doomslayer is like a hyperversely powerful godlike being and he only uses guns because he enjoys them 🔥☠️🎸
@paulw3303
@paulw3303 Жыл бұрын
@@JoeMama34568 nice last name
@soup7694
@soup7694 Жыл бұрын
@@m91trooperfilms76 but you forgot the most fun part! he uses the guns because he knows the demons will suffer more because they can take multiple shots compared to his almighty fists!
@m91trooperfilms76
@m91trooperfilms76 Жыл бұрын
@@soup7694 HA!!! YES!
@GaldirEonai
@GaldirEonai Жыл бұрын
The best part of the BFG scene is the base PA immediately afterwards saying "Evacuate immediately...the Slayer has found the BFG!"
@tl1882
@tl1882 Жыл бұрын
i like how first she says "the slayer has control of the bfg" then say "the slayer _has_ the bfg"
@GaldirEonai
@GaldirEonai Жыл бұрын
@@tl1882 Yep. You get a sense of escalating panic without her ever changing her tone :D.
@Pidalin
@Pidalin Жыл бұрын
that's like when you play multiplayer and your friend switches to rocket launcher in small room 😀
@isaacmayer-splain8974
@isaacmayer-splain8974 Жыл бұрын
@@Pidalin that's not very rock and stone of you gunner
@RichardLionheart12
@RichardLionheart12 11 ай бұрын
I love doom eternal is because of BFG 10000 gun.
@Yakboy999
@Yakboy999 Жыл бұрын
The BFG 10000 is related to what has become one of my favorite lines in all of video games, an exasperated "You can't just shoot a hole into the surface of mars!"
@finnvost9349
@finnvost9349 Жыл бұрын
"the longer the icon of sin stays on earth, the stronger it will become"
@bluevines1303
@bluevines1303 Ай бұрын
Oh yeah Samuel watch me
@holitinne
@holitinne Жыл бұрын
Vega: “Would you like me to disable the safety protocols?” Doomguy: *(Tapping)* (Yes, please.)
@GuardianOfTheHeaven
@GuardianOfTheHeaven Жыл бұрын
"Actions speaks louder than words, after all."
@Smurfman256
@Smurfman256 Жыл бұрын
Vega: "The Ion Catapult is designed to only use approved UAC ammunition." Doomguy: "I *am* approved UAC ammunition." *KICK*
@Name1person
@Name1person Жыл бұрын
No no no doom guy has manners he will say please
@achaziel
@achaziel Жыл бұрын
that part cracked me up so bad when I first played that game. you can clearly tell the devs had so much fun with this game.
@unfa00
@unfa00 Жыл бұрын
I have only played 2016, but I am really happy Vega makes a return. He's an awesome character, and having the Slayer backing him up before blowing up the mainframe was a subtle, but great character moment where we see the Slayer getting attached to another person (albeit artificial) for the first time, and not just murdering things all around.
@yocapo32
@yocapo32 Жыл бұрын
If I remember my Doom lore right, the Super Shotgun in Doom Eternal is implied to be the same gun from Doom 2, but twisted into a demon annihilating machine by years and years of being covered in demon guts from all the ripping and tearing Doomguy did prior to getting sealed before 2016 started.
@johnfkennedyinanopentopcar8976
@johnfkennedyinanopentopcar8976 Жыл бұрын
And the demons treat it like a holy weapon
@TheRedCap30
@TheRedCap30 Жыл бұрын
Ol' reliable
@danielgascadiaz4862
@danielgascadiaz4862 Ай бұрын
It's more like it was modified by the Night Centinels to be the ultimate demon killing weapon
@BNuts
@BNuts Жыл бұрын
Bit of an interesting tidbit: In _DOOM 2016_ , where you go to the lab to recover the BFG, you visit testing rooms that effectively show off the different behaviours the BFGs have had over the years. Then, of course, you go and get the sole functional BFG-9000, and the game immediately gives you a room full of demons to test it on. Really love that moment.
@wjveryzer7985
@wjveryzer7985 Жыл бұрын
i prefer 2016 over eternal. The slower pace just made it scarier for me.
@seantaggart7382
@seantaggart7382 Жыл бұрын
Yeah its like This is the new version And heres some fodder!
@craigwotruba2940
@craigwotruba2940 Жыл бұрын
@@wjveryzer7985 Eternal is still a horror game, but instead of the demons, the Slayer is the monster.
@aeternusdoleo4531
@aeternusdoleo4531 Жыл бұрын
@@craigwotruba2940 Most horror games: "You're locked in a room with demons." Doom: "Demons are locked in a room with you... enjoy."
@vyor8837
@vyor8837 Жыл бұрын
@@wjveryzer7985 ... If you have a rocket launcher, the game can't be a horror game.
@Henry-Kuren
@Henry-Kuren Жыл бұрын
I believe the redesign of some of the iconic classic weapons was because the weapons are the Slayer's personal weapons, instead of ones he found on mars.
@PewPew_McPewster
@PewPew_McPewster Жыл бұрын
The cool part about Jonathan Ferguson is that he, while being the Keeper of Firearms and Artillery at the Royal Armouries Museum, is still cool enough to go "sure, an energy weapon is cool and exists in this universe, but why does an energy weapon need to eject brass casings? Probably for visual effect which is important in videogames." Very classy stuff.
@eliel1815shadow
@eliel1815shadow Жыл бұрын
He also can understand some weird decisions developers make, like the Owen gun from CoD Vanguard whole sides being flipped/mirrored Wich they did due to the whole gun covering the screen
@Spike2276
@Spike2276 Жыл бұрын
I love that Jonathan embraces the vibe of "it's Doom, it doesn't need to make sense, it just looks badass"
@cristianmihai4182
@cristianmihai4182 Жыл бұрын
I sincerely hope Jonathan never encounters an inconvenience in his life. This man is just too wholesome and nice
@ChrissieBear
@ChrissieBear Жыл бұрын
"It's almost like a rhythm game" is a perfect description of modern Doom!
@lrizzard
@lrizzard Жыл бұрын
i also love the cheeky look he gives after "if you play it properly", he knows :D
@Sonichero151
@Sonichero151 Ай бұрын
Just wait until he covers Metal: Hellsinger
@spamhere1123
@spamhere1123 Жыл бұрын
I do love how he noticed that little detail: "Would you like me to disable the safety protocols?" _taptaptaptaptap_
@jmerridew124
@jmerridew124 Жыл бұрын
It's hard not to like the Doomguy. I respect anyone who can write a good character without words.
@RimshotKiller
@RimshotKiller Жыл бұрын
It was the main focus of the cutscene, how could anybody miss it?
@spamhere1123
@spamhere1123 Жыл бұрын
@@RimshotKiller Because he mainly cares about the guns, and is paying attention to them, not the overall gameplay and story. But he noticed it anyway
@GuardianOfTheHeaven
@GuardianOfTheHeaven Жыл бұрын
"Allow me to help you with the timestamp." 21:32
@EvilPikachu
@EvilPikachu Жыл бұрын
Been replaying the entire series on my Switch and I don't mind how realistic they are. I like how the Super Shotgun turns basically anything it's pointed at into a puddle of chunky marmalade.
@alexgutierrez3780
@alexgutierrez3780 Жыл бұрын
chunky marmalade, that's a new one. I like it
@bcoda
@bcoda Жыл бұрын
to be fair, everything on the Switch looks like chunky marmalade
@jmurray1110
@jmurray1110 Жыл бұрын
Funnily enough I just got doom 93 basically for free due to a deal on the eshop being covered by my gold points
@ghostdragon2282
@ghostdragon2282 Жыл бұрын
@@jmurray1110 fun fact: you can also play doom 1+2 in the hub area of doom eternal.
@Levi_Skardsen
@Levi_Skardsen Жыл бұрын
Ah, the Switch. Peasantry made portable.
@MarkChong
@MarkChong Жыл бұрын
I think one of the reasons that the single barrelled shotgun has such a truncated stock is to account for the thick armor that the Doomslayer wears.
@Arkeilam
@Arkeilam Жыл бұрын
Indeed. The soldiers he picks a lot of his weapons up from are similarly heavily armored. Pretty likely that many of these weapons would, in fact, injure a normal human with normal gear who tried to use them.
@HQ_Default
@HQ_Default Жыл бұрын
I suppose that would make sense... Especially considering the _original_ super shotgun from Doom 2 _did_ have a stock on it back when he was rocking the bare sleeves.
@MarkChong
@MarkChong Жыл бұрын
@@HQ_Default I didn't even think to check that out. Good one.
@Foxxie0kun
@Foxxie0kun Жыл бұрын
"Why would an energy weapon have cartridge cases ejecting?" One hypothesis I have is that those "cartridge cases" are spent/depleted batteries or energy sources, and that each shot dumps the entire energy content of one of those batteries into the blast. Granted they're small in size, the damage done is also small compared to the various ballistic and energy weapons, but as a backup weapon with functionally unlimited ammunition I think the pistol serves its purpose.
@ToxicBastard
@ToxicBastard Жыл бұрын
I always wanted a laser MG that spews out AAA batteries like casings.
@jaytrashwade1-1
@jaytrashwade1-1 Жыл бұрын
In game lore reasoning of the energy pistol ejecting casings is that it converts the energy into a special gel slug with the durability and ballistics of 9mm, but can be charged to inflict greater damage.
@gabbonoo
@gabbonoo Ай бұрын
@@jaytrashwade1-1 more efficient than heating the air into plasma. loses less heat, the projectile is insulated, unwraps over target on impact like little water balloons of doom
@nevergreene
@nevergreene Жыл бұрын
Bit disappointed that they didn’t cover the rest of 2016’s guns. Would have loved to see Johnathan’s reaction to the chaingun.
@rexosuitmk2577
@rexosuitmk2577 Жыл бұрын
and the Gauss cannon especially for me.
@dkskcjfjswwwwwws413
@dkskcjfjswwwwwws413 Жыл бұрын
no unmaykr
@ghostdragon2282
@ghostdragon2282 Жыл бұрын
all of the above tbh
@aircraftcarrierwo-class
@aircraftcarrierwo-class Жыл бұрын
The Eternal chaingun isn't terribly different from 2016's; still has the Mobile Turret mode, and the spinup mod got dummied out by Eternal just removing the spin-up mechanic and we got the shield mod instead which feels much better. Missed out on the Gauss Cannon from 2016 though, sadness. I actually like the Gauss Cannon more than the Ballista that replaced it.
@Thefreakyfreek
@Thefreakyfreek Жыл бұрын
@@aircraftcarrierwo-class its is beter the sound the look the power all of it
@SinaelDOverom
@SinaelDOverom Жыл бұрын
17:40 you CAN resume shooting regardless, the gun does not overheat, and has no negative sides to buildup. The module stores residue plasma to "vent" all at once towards enemies. Also not shown: Doom Eternal module that shoots a beam depositing residue plasma inside enemy body, which does no visible damage until the enemies capacity (different for each enemy) is exceeded, at which point enemy violently explodes from the inside.
@kelleroid
@kelleroid Жыл бұрын
There's still a however brief pause after using heat blast, I think he's referring to that
@the_redpyro4906
@the_redpyro4906 Жыл бұрын
Ah yes, the microwave beam.
@user-dk2lb5ip4s
@user-dk2lb5ip4s Жыл бұрын
@@kelleroid I thought the pause after using heat blast was only present in Eternal, was it also there in 2016?
@MrMegaMetroid
@MrMegaMetroid Жыл бұрын
@@user-dk2lb5ip4s as far as i remember yes, it was in 2016 as well and i remember there being an upgrade for it too cause unupgraded it felt like an eternity until you could resume shooting
@starhammer5247
@starhammer5247 Жыл бұрын
The process can be sped up by damaging the enemy first and then using the beam while they are near death.
@videojames290
@videojames290 Жыл бұрын
I could retrospectively surmise that the stocks on the shotguns are lower to accommodate the users full head helmets on the cheekrest, but it also just communicates "shotgun" better in silhouette
@BYERE
@BYERE Жыл бұрын
"It's like a gun equivalent of a Conan sword..." Well, to quote the trailer from Doom Eternal; "...and he carries a steel-barrelled sword of vengeance!"
@Smeeeeeghead
@Smeeeeeghead Жыл бұрын
I love how he adds the "But it IS really cool!" at the end of each section.
@matthaught4707
@matthaught4707 Жыл бұрын
"You can't shoot a hole in the surface of Mars!" Doomguy: *grunts and proves him wrong*
@pete3011
@pete3011 Жыл бұрын
I just played Eternal, that sequence cracked me up Hayden- "You cant shoot a hole in the surface of Mars!!" Mission objective immediately pops up- Shoot a hole in the surface of Mars.
@strangeyoutuberman7115
@strangeyoutuberman7115 Жыл бұрын
For the pistol, the reason it has casings is there are physical bullets, explained to be a kind of volatile gel that releases large amounts of energy. The gun turns the EMG Cartridge (Energy Matter Gel) to energy and ejects the cartridge
@livingcorpse5664
@livingcorpse5664 Жыл бұрын
"Why does it have cartridge cases" It could be an early energy weapon where they they couldn't fit a storage for the fuel in the gun itself or couldn't get the energy to travel in the air far enough before dissipating, so the the casing contains a bullet which has the fuel and some machine in the gun heats it up till it turns into that burning hot energy, as the bullet travels the energy inside of it heats up enough to consume the bullet from within, adding to it's mass but till then the bullet helps it keep it's shape. Similar design was used for early Phased Plasma weapons in the Terminator series till Skynet found a way to make Plasma outside of bullets that could travel far before dissipating (basically giving it a magnetic sheath to keep it's shape outside of a bullet). TLDR: Early energy weapons might be a weird hybird between current and future weapons till we figure out how to improve them.
@Anon26535
@Anon26535 5 ай бұрын
This is actually a thing in a Japanese superhero manga called Metal Guardian Faust. Faust carries a revolver that shoots regular bullets but also has a special attack that heats them up until they turn into plasma.
@SynthLizard8
@SynthLizard8 Жыл бұрын
I'm glad the devs for Doom 2016 appreciated just how cool the Doom3 plasma rifle design was, too bad they didn't include the reload noise when switching between mods though.
@alteanti
@alteanti Жыл бұрын
They used it for the gauss cannon
@frozby5973
@frozby5973 Жыл бұрын
there are actually quite a few sound throwbacks to doom3 weapons in the newer dooms and even in eternals dlc one of the music tracks starts off pretty much by a section of music from the original painkiller game, think its the "blood swamps fight music" and "painkiller catacombs fight music"
@dandominare
@dandominare Жыл бұрын
I actually loved the Doom 3 plasma gun reload noise. They got a lot of stuff wrong in that game but they got that right.
@frozby5973
@frozby5973 Жыл бұрын
@@dandominare some people didnt like the shotgun but for me i loved doom 3 for what it was and wasnt the usual "hurr durr, its not like the original" i think if i count how many times ive completed a single player game fist one would be doom 3 second one quake 2, ita like every time i play through doom 3 i find something new some new piece of story, etc the pdas the atmosphere its very well done imo and the voice acting even if there are not so many actors and many overlap its believable and fits it a LOT, doom3 also has probably my favorite version of the bfg, the sound the charge up, the animation, its just so well done. Just like the chaingun, or the plasma gun.
@shaderunner8220
@shaderunner8220 Жыл бұрын
Love that Jonathan instantly recognized the iconic look of the original plasma rifle, I had the same exact reaction lol
@SpideyWasTaken
@SpideyWasTaken Жыл бұрын
I own both the entire Doom and Wolfenstein franchise on Steam. They're both very amazing games and I would love to see Jonathan tackle the Wolfenstein weapons as well.
@nerdyvids1
@nerdyvids1 Жыл бұрын
"They CAN be fired one handed. I have done it." I'm surprised the screen didn't shatter from how strong of a flex that was.
@eacaraxe
@eacaraxe Жыл бұрын
Most people who shoot shotguns extensively have done it at least once, just to see what it's like. Everyone I know has; in fact, in almost every circumstance I was there, because it was mine they were shooting. It's not really that bad so long as you know what to expect, have a strong stance, and are prepared for the recoil. One of my best friends has a .44 Ruger Blackhawk, and I'll empty a magazine one-handed from any shotgun in my ownership, before I'd ever put a single round downrange one-handed from that blackhawk again.
@planetmaker3472
@planetmaker3472 Жыл бұрын
from what i remember, the 2 pump actions shoot 6 gauge, the 2016 super shotty is 4 gauge, the eternal version is 2 gauge, the heavy cannon is 15mm, and the eternal chaingun is shoots 7.62 made of condensed argent energy so pretty much explosive. also the 2016 chaingun shoots uranium coated 15mm tungsten slugs at high velocitys.
@henryfleischer404
@henryfleischer404 Жыл бұрын
And here I was thinking 8 gauge was big.
@planetmaker3472
@planetmaker3472 Жыл бұрын
@@henryfleischer404 check out the double duece, it's the closest approximation to the eternal version
@LipColt
@LipColt Жыл бұрын
@Lane on air all these infos are found on each weapon codex.
@planetmaker3472
@planetmaker3472 Жыл бұрын
@@LipColt no, not for the shotguns or heavy cannon.
@Cheesepuff8
@Cheesepuff8 Жыл бұрын
Oh cool, they actually have some super low gauge double barrel shotguns at the royal armoury but they’re on display
@SuperiorAutocraft
@SuperiorAutocraft Жыл бұрын
100% they went full on Heavy Metal for Eternal. So many sequences felt like they were right in line with that series.
@PlasticChaser
@PlasticChaser Жыл бұрын
DUDE! I love this guy!!! He's interesting, entertaining, informative! He does it all without being "too good" for video games, and sounding like a know it all. You can tell he's an actual fan.
@Skull35
@Skull35 Жыл бұрын
Part of the fun of Doom 2016 was only having a few weapons, but having to learn how to use them on different enemy types and how to use each gun to get ammo for the others.
@AlexDenton0451
@AlexDenton0451 Жыл бұрын
What? Doom 2016 you really don’t suffer with ammo compared to Eternal. Plus 8 guns gives you a lot of choices and breathing room too.
@EvilPikachu
@EvilPikachu Жыл бұрын
I preferred 2016 to Eternal. In 2016 you can use any weapon for the task. Some are better suited but it's perfectly okay to do whatever. In Eternal it feels like the damage is neutered when not using the specific weapon an enemy is weak to. It's kinda like Dark Souls vs Sekiro; in Dark Souls you can do it your own way but some strategies work better than others. In Sekiro, there is just The Way.
@Flaminglump01
@Flaminglump01 Жыл бұрын
Or just super shotgun everything
@TheStrayHALOMAN
@TheStrayHALOMAN Жыл бұрын
@@EvilPikachu It just lazy and bad design to let bad players exploit the game like that, those are Hugo's words too and why Eternal is really heavy on ammo usage.
@jmurray1110
@jmurray1110 Жыл бұрын
The fun of doom 2016 was using your favourite handful of weapons in different ways with the mods to best suit your playstyle Doom eternal was limit ammo forcing you to swap weapons and go super aggressive
@tenathzeckron
@tenathzeckron Жыл бұрын
Jonathan: Why does an energy weapon need cartridges? Me: Well perhaps, in this universe they've perfected the use of energy based ammunition inside a modified brass casing so any ballistic weapon could use them.
@insomniagobrrr5542
@insomniagobrrr5542 Жыл бұрын
That actually makes sense
@dragon12234
@dragon12234 Жыл бұрын
Also, generally single use batteries/capacitors can hold more energy than recharging ones. So it might be that that's exactly what the "casings" are: Single use batteries/super capacitors
@joshuagreen5613
@joshuagreen5613 Жыл бұрын
I was thinking more or less the "cartridges" are more like a Capacitor with enough individual power for a single shot considering (possibly) how much power energy weapons require. And when they run out of power, are then ejected from the weapon.
@derekp2674
@derekp2674 Жыл бұрын
Some early single shot railgun experiments were powered by 'explosive flux compression generators'. That technology used explosive forces to compress a current carrying loop (a kind of 'inverse railgun' effect) and the resulting amplified current was then used to power the experimental railgun. So you might use cartridges as a propellant source to power some sort of electrical generator as a supporting subsystem for an energy weapon.
@FyruHawk
@FyruHawk Жыл бұрын
well in the lore the Doom Eternal chaingun barrels are raingun barrels hence why it's shots are blue.
@windfall8058
@windfall8058 Жыл бұрын
It's kind of strange how the Ballista and Chaingun work. They would definitely make sense if the Ballista fired bolts and the chaingun fired lasers, but it's actually the other way around. The Ballista uses the same power cells as the plasma rifle, while the chaingun uses the same ammo pool as the assault rifle. One gun you missed was the Unmakyr, which uses the same energy as the BFG, but fires them in a spray of projectiles.
@Kayem237
@Kayem237 Жыл бұрын
12:40 yes, the DOOM 2016 Super Shotgun is a random one picked up off the ground. the DOOM Eternal one is the Super Shotgun he's been using since the old DOOM games, etched, customized, modified for slaying demons with his now quite literally magical knowledge for killing demons. I'm surprised you didn't comment on the sheer size of the bores on either of the shotguns. 19:40 It's a weapon of the Night Sentinels, which are basically like Knights in Space, the design of it being like a crossbow is to fit in with that theme.
@Kaybeeguy
@Kaybeeguy Жыл бұрын
Even Jonathan knows the Super Shotgun in Doom games is super fun to use
@moistcheese3386
@moistcheese3386 Жыл бұрын
Wolfenstein new order next please
@Skull35
@Skull35 Жыл бұрын
EXACTLY. The newer Wolfenstein games would be really fun for Jonathan to analyze.
@afd19850
@afd19850 Жыл бұрын
Been commenting this every video for months now lol!
@Wurfeln
@Wurfeln Жыл бұрын
Yes!!11
@moistcheese3386
@moistcheese3386 Жыл бұрын
@@afd19850 same lol
@The_Viktor_Reznov
@The_Viktor_Reznov Жыл бұрын
I commented just now about Wolfenstein and searched to see if anybody else felt the same. Perfect games for him.
@rosfell00
@rosfell00 Жыл бұрын
"The gun equivalent of a Conan Sword" finally I´ve been trying to find the perfect analogy for these weapons for so long...
@squashmallow2006
@squashmallow2006 Жыл бұрын
Doom Eternal's plasma rifle does have an indicator for the heat blast buildup. It's on the crosshairs. You see 3 tiny bars slowly build up. The more bars filled up, the higher the intensity of the blast.
@Regigigas_YT
@Regigigas_YT 10 ай бұрын
I loved every Eternal weapon design until I saw the Plasma Rifle. I hated the cardboard box look on it the entire game, why did they change it from the awesome 2016 design?
@gheleon4260
@gheleon4260 Жыл бұрын
For the love of all that is good, PLEASE do more guns from Hunt Showdown they're right up Johnathan's alley.
@hamakavula8
@hamakavula8 Жыл бұрын
Yes please! And show him the Developer Update where they talked about the weapon changes inspired by Jonathan.
@9PlatinumGamer9
@9PlatinumGamer9 Жыл бұрын
@@hamakavula8 And the video of how the Mosin Avtomat works! It actually rotates like Jonathan said it would have to!
@slog555
@slog555 Жыл бұрын
was so disappointed when they didnt show him the lebel or martini henry. i'd love see his take on them plus the berti and the new alof system for the romero
@ColtGuthrie
@ColtGuthrie Жыл бұрын
Yes! More Hunt!
@frajecz
@frajecz Жыл бұрын
@@slog555 The Alofs alone is a reason to revisit Hunt. It is, to my knowledge, the first ever videogame (or popular culture in general) representation of this system, ever.
@DarKKnightt07
@DarKKnightt07 Жыл бұрын
I wanna see him react to the guns of the Wolfenstein games, preferably the reboot and 2002, 2009 games also have cool weapons too.
@davidoftheforest
@davidoftheforest Жыл бұрын
YES
@RoundedSeal
@RoundedSeal Жыл бұрын
LITERALLY THIS
@afd19850
@afd19850 Жыл бұрын
We need all the Wolf games imho!!!
@aranyabhattacharyya3436
@aranyabhattacharyya3436 Жыл бұрын
MY THOUGHTS EXACTLY YESSS PLEASE!!!!!
@xj0462
@xj0462 Жыл бұрын
i completely agree, i would also love to see him react to the Wolfenstein reboot series guns!
@Anon13430
@Anon13430 Жыл бұрын
I'm surprised he didn't talk about the ammo belt on the second MG going into the buttstock. That would make it very tricky for a left handed person to use
@plaguedoctorjamespainshe6009
@plaguedoctorjamespainshe6009 Жыл бұрын
The brass ejecting from the pistol and chaingun is because they are regular bullets but with argent powder that superheats the bullet creating plasma And the stock on the shotgun isn't small, is just the rest that is massive
@Tounushi
@Tounushi Жыл бұрын
"Why would an energy weapon need cases?" Batteries/power cells and likely heat sinks.
@FAIZAFEI
@FAIZAFEI Жыл бұрын
I guess the weapon in Classic Dooms is the most "realistic" since the sprites is the photograph of real life toy guns (except rocket launcher that's hand drawn)
@user-xb1wh5mt4l
@user-xb1wh5mt4l Жыл бұрын
An "energy" pistol may eject casings because it can be not a directed-energy weapon. Maybe it still shoots a material projectile charged with a kind of energy. Also, if the heavy assault rifle is around .50, a mechanism to decrease recoil as with the Doom Eternal version will be quite useful.
@Netsuko
@Netsuko Жыл бұрын
A little bit sad that we missed the Gauss Cannon here on this one. But as always, this video was a treat!
@artur1075
@artur1075 Жыл бұрын
I think it would be interesting to see him react to the guns and cannons of the game War Of Rights.
@Autonate_42
@Autonate_42 Жыл бұрын
It's often best not to question the slayers arsenal for the reason that one's brain may melt trying to figure them out. Been waiting for a doom episode, keep it up!
@Cheesepuff8
@Cheesepuff8 Жыл бұрын
It’s ok his brain can’t get any more melted after he tried to work out how the Scout’s Scattergun works from TF2
@jmurray1110
@jmurray1110 Жыл бұрын
And then completely destroyed by the panic attack
@dr.feelgood5048
@dr.feelgood5048 Жыл бұрын
I love how savvy he is when it comes to the break down of an energy weapon, this man know the future of “fire”arms
@tonyyul703
@tonyyul703 Жыл бұрын
I wish someone would actually try and design these weapons just to see how they would actually work in the real world
@ConnallTara
@ConnallTara Жыл бұрын
one recommendation I would make is to take a look at Deep Rock Galactic? it's got a delightful blend of historically "inspired" weapons (mk1000 rifle) to some gloriously dumb nonsense (Thunderhead Auto-Cannon) ROCK AND STONE!
@malandewaal8522
@malandewaal8522 Жыл бұрын
DID I HEAR A ROCK AND STONE?
@TehNoobiness
@TehNoobiness Жыл бұрын
IF YA DON'T ROCK AN' STONE, YA AIN'T COMIN HOME
@bhx6252
@bhx6252 Жыл бұрын
FOR THOSE ABOUT TO ROCK AND STONE, WE SALUTE YOU
@smalljh04
@smalljh04 Жыл бұрын
ROCK AND ROLL AND STONE
@Cheesepuff8
@Cheesepuff8 Жыл бұрын
And It would be cool to see his impression on the low poly guns
@AE1OU
@AE1OU Жыл бұрын
Please Jonathan, made a video on *METAL GEAR SOLID 3* weapons. (Please like the comment so gamespot can finally see it) So many weapons in MGS3 to react and comment on like the Patriot's infinite ammo magazine, the EZ tranq gun, Snake's customized officer M1911A1, Snake whittling the pistol grip to use a knife for CQC, Ocelot's SAA juggling skills, The End's paratrooper tranquilizer Mosin Nagant, the Davey Crockett recoil-less nuclear launcher and Eva's chinese mauser clone. There are so many more other interesting trivias and weapons in MGS3 so please gamespot and Johnathan make a video that isnt just more call of duty or tarkov (as much as I love those series) it just feels stale now revisiting the same games for multiple videos.
@montywh
@montywh Жыл бұрын
i kinda figured that the aesthetic of the BFG9K/10K difference is the 10k is really just an amplifier that you plug the 9k into, allowing it to have the raw power to partially destroy a planet
@sciarpecyril
@sciarpecyril Жыл бұрын
The pistol ammunition isn't fully energy in its nature. Here is description from the game: "Every UAC employee is provided a standard UAC EMG (Energy-Matter-Gel) Sidearm upon promotion to Tier 2 and above. This sidearm is reliable and effective at short range. A gravity gear dynamo in the stock charges a capacitor whenever the operator moves. When the weapon is fired, the capacitor compresses up to 4 megawatts of Argent Energy into a hardening plasma gel and launches the slug at high velocity. The gel slug has the same impact properties of conventional ammunition, making the weapon act and feel like a standard ballistic firearm. The weapon is constructed of thermally diffusive metal alloys which allow it to discharge rapidly and repeatedly without overheating or compromising the accuracy. The capacitor in the EMG can also be upgraded to concentrate the energy into one large pulse for more stopping power".
@ColdestDay
@ColdestDay Жыл бұрын
Rip, and I can not stress this enough, tear.
@B4WZeR
@B4WZeR Жыл бұрын
I'd love to see Jonathan actually play DOOM Eternal
@4.0.4
@4.0.4 Жыл бұрын
You have to admit, "pump-action gatling revolver shotgun" just sounds FUN.
@brendanrobertson5966
@brendanrobertson5966 Жыл бұрын
The Hammer's Slammers series uses powerguns, and the author specifically designed it to still require a cartridge to hold the energy (some armies use lasers with powerpacks with the corresponding weight issues)
@VergilArcanis
@VergilArcanis Жыл бұрын
Canonically, the Doom Slayer doesn't need to use guns in 2016 or Eternal, but he does so because he likes to. there's also a bonus weapon called the Unmakyr in Doom Eternal, which takes the ridiculous design of the Ballista and add BFG 9000 ammo to it with a lateral spread of 3 and 5 bolts, alternating quickly
@leshape192
@leshape192 Жыл бұрын
Based off the unique demonic power weapon from doom 64 of the same name, but with a y added
@sohamacharya171
@sohamacharya171 Жыл бұрын
@@leshape192 Without the Demon Keys
@kevinmoore5674
@kevinmoore5674 Жыл бұрын
I would LOVE to see Jonathan's take on the weapons of Remnant from the Ashes. Far less grounded in reality but I want to see his reaction to a rifle made out of a tree.
@Year_of_the_Dell
@Year_of_the_Dell Жыл бұрын
How about a Tommy gun made from a Small engine and some Sewing machine parts
@dontworryaboutit3387
@dontworryaboutit3387 Жыл бұрын
They should have showed him the UnMakyr would’ve been cool to hear his thoughts on that beast. Love the video though as always !!
@HazelS71
@HazelS71 Жыл бұрын
a very tough episode for Jonathan but did it with flying coloours thank you sir i loved the fact ingame there is lore documents you can read about the guns and how they were used in the universe of Doom super cool!
@fiiral5870
@fiiral5870 Жыл бұрын
Would love to see the guns from SCP: Secret Laboratory covered, they recently got an overhaul
@dorianscibajlo1043
@dorianscibajlo1043 Жыл бұрын
I love how he can understand how very cool the metal versions of the weapons look regardless of how utterly unusable the guns would be for anyone but the Slayer. And indeed, when played right, Doom IS a rythm shooter when played properly, I'd advise anyone reaching their "skill cap" to practice more and not stop playing, Eternal is the perfect rythm shooter once you're used to the pace at which the game is played, and becomes 10x as fun as on the first walkthrough. And don't even get me started on the master levels. Finally enough demons to make it possible to write a score in gunpowder and guts. ;)
@Vallaxes
@Vallaxes Жыл бұрын
I'd really love to see the guns from the first F.E.A.R reviewed, or more Hunt Showdown guns
@AlexHassun
@AlexHassun Жыл бұрын
I'd like to see Jonathan's take on the weapons from Cruelty Squad since most of them are very obscure real world guns
@Versakken
@Versakken Жыл бұрын
would have loved to see an episode dedicated to old DOS doom and doom II
@bhx6252
@bhx6252 Жыл бұрын
I'd love to see John take a look at the guns in Deep Rock Galactic, there's a good mix of traditional firearms and wacky sci-fi goodness in there. Plus dwarves Edit: Someone else already brought DRG up, who would've thought! Rock and stone!
@Tucher97
@Tucher97 Жыл бұрын
16:28 This Plasma gun's design is reused from Doom 3 however there is extra lore on what it exist is that Mar security wanted a gun where the ammo can be made onsite or using materials that are far more common to the planet.
@txcrix9236
@txcrix9236 Жыл бұрын
21:30 Your reaction cracked me up love it! 🤣 A little tidbit about the chain gun is that it's essentially a hand-held gatling gun (ha!). The original gatling guns were hand-cranked monsters on wheels. You gotta admire just how far technology has advanced with fully automatic rotating barrel weapons such as the GAU Avenger.
@Josua070
@Josua070 Жыл бұрын
The Pistol is, for all intents and purposes, the most powerful Sidearm that can be wielded by normal, squishy humans. 15KJ of Kinetic Energy from the compressed plasma slug that weighs 0.00000017 gram could make humies go kaboom (if you wanna go with a dumbed down basic way of explaining) while travelling at 13,284,223 m/s (roughly the speed of 23% the speed of light), with a recoil of only 0.007528 Newton PER SHOT. So the next time you wanna say it's weak, it's weak when you're fighting Doomguy's enemies. Firing it at another squishy humie will only get you insta-gore, without even using the charged shot.
@4Presunto4
@4Presunto4 Жыл бұрын
why are you writing like this?
@janeistired3921
@janeistired3921 Жыл бұрын
human soldiers carry shotguns, plasma rifles, and the super shotgun in doom
@Josua070
@Josua070 Жыл бұрын
@@janeistired3921 I fail to see the point of your statement. Get some rest, we know you're tired when you wrote this.
@Josua070
@Josua070 Жыл бұрын
@@4Presunto4 Inspired by Sacred Cow Shipyards' way of calling us Humans. And what's your point? You lack punctuation in yours.
@hughjanos3992
@hughjanos3992 Жыл бұрын
least chronically online warhammer fan
@StevenGarcia-im8rr
@StevenGarcia-im8rr Жыл бұрын
Once more, an episode of Darkest of Days would make my week. Also, Homefront: The Revolution with their transforming guns would probably break poor Jon.
@Knumpty
@Knumpty Жыл бұрын
Would love to see Jonathan give his analysis of one of the older Delta Force games, especially Land Warrior. LW contained some unique weapons such as the G11, Calico and SOCOM .45!
@andimarment5168
@andimarment5168 Жыл бұрын
And the oicw if I remember correctly
@neonraindrops
@neonraindrops Жыл бұрын
20:50 That is not a shield that you are dropping in game, but rather a shield generated by a new enemy called the Carcass. It's meant to deflect rockets.
@Momomaster25
@Momomaster25 Жыл бұрын
Would love to see the six star experimental weapons from Generation Zero featured. Most of the 5 star and lower guns are basically your bog-standard weapons, but the six star experimental weapons are quite fun. Some of the weapons on the enemies would also be neat.
@cyberspacesupersoldier
@cyberspacesupersoldier Жыл бұрын
Excellent video, but I kind of really wish he covered the cut Pistol from Doom Eternal (yes, I know this weapon never made it to the final game and was scrapped for obvious reasons, but it's still totally relevant and fitting), plus the BFG-9000, Gauss Cannon, and ChainGun from Doom 2016. I also wish that all the weapon attachment mods/add-ons and alternate fire modes, and also the Unmaykr (or Unmaker) were covered as well. Kind of a shame, but at least I enjoyed the video and liked all his insight into each firearm.
@SyntheticFuture
@SyntheticFuture Жыл бұрын
I love that he has that gamer background and is able to understand designs from a gameplay perspective :D
@zerotheero
@zerotheero Жыл бұрын
the more I look at it, the more I see that the rounds for the 2016's H.A.R are actually linked, since the casing ejected looks like conventional casings. it's just the links actually wrap around the casing.
@kaneshipley1696
@kaneshipley1696 Жыл бұрын
About the 2016 pistol, it’s classed in the codex as an EMG sidearm (energy matter gel) and uses argent energy in the weapon capacitor to launch hardened plasma slugs formed from energised gel. So the casings coming out most likely held the gel like a conventional firearm bullet holds the propellant. As to why it’s infinite, that’s DOOM for ya.
@Darknessblade4me
@Darknessblade4me Жыл бұрын
It's kinda weird that the campaign one is infinite ammo but eject casings, while the multiplayer one is the direct opposite.
@CrackHead001
@CrackHead001 Жыл бұрын
Ah yes. the longer the expert is on earth, the smarter he will become.
@bubbles8871
@bubbles8871 Ай бұрын
The pistol, lore wise, was made as an energy weapon that feels like a traditional ballistic weapon to allow users to feel more comfortable with its functions.
@papayer
@papayer Жыл бұрын
I will always adore how chunky the SSG in Eternal is. That thing looks like it kicks like a mule
@TheNefariousBeanLord
@TheNefariousBeanLord Жыл бұрын
Id love to see Johnathan review the weapons from Ultrakill.
@crabohato4954
@crabohato4954 Жыл бұрын
Doom 3 also has some interesting weapons worth covering. I'd enjoy John covering the guns and the PDAs that describe them as well
@miss_bec
@miss_bec Жыл бұрын
Kinda wish he was shown the clip where Samuel Hayden says "you can't just shoot a hole in the surface of Mars", only to then cut to the BFG-10K clip.
@jackermis3104
@jackermis3104 Жыл бұрын
Fun fact, the heavy assault riffle in doom can use depleted uranium coated bullets, Very much lethal. Especially a uranium coated 50 bmg.
@Versakken
@Versakken Жыл бұрын
i really wish you could combine weapon history with historic old games like gokden eye from the N64, like, seeing one of the first P90 3D models would be so cool
@SteelSeoul
@SteelSeoul Жыл бұрын
Recently started replaying Homefront: The Revolution. Would love to see the reactions to the cursed concept behind the firearm conversions in that game.
@morganrunnels9113
@morganrunnels9113 Жыл бұрын
Fun Fact! In DOOM 2016, the weapons are made by the Union Aerospace Corporation, while the weapons in ETERNAL are made by the Armed Resistance group known as ARC
@Will-22
@Will-22 Жыл бұрын
Perfect timing as I have just finished my switch play though of doom (2016) and I have been waiting for Jonathan to cover doom
@Thunderking01
@Thunderking01 Жыл бұрын
Such a fun series. Would love to see Johnathan return to Hunt Showdown. They've added several new weapons and variants since the last one.
@Year_of_the_Dell
@Year_of_the_Dell Жыл бұрын
What i am about to say has Been said a thousand times But they also fixed some things he noted in the original run
@ethanslattery1191
@ethanslattery1191 Жыл бұрын
Good video. It would have been interesting if the Unmakyr from Eternal had made it on to this list as well.
@walmartian422
@walmartian422 Жыл бұрын
I love how you always see this guy surrounded by dozens of guns.
@ohjeezriles
@ohjeezriles Жыл бұрын
“It’s like the gun equivalent of a, ‘Conan,’ sword.” that’s probably the highest compliment you could pay to the artists & devs working at id, tbh
@a3vus
@a3vus Жыл бұрын
So happy to see him do one of my favorite games! I really want to get back into speedrunning!
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