Game Theory: You KILLED the Planet! (Subnautica)

[@ignaciog5818]

"You killed the planet!" Me with the haunting memories of the deep monsters and environments from the game: *good*

[@stvlgs112]

*That's where THEORISTS has gone:* kzbin.info/www/bejne/jYSTe2qAm8hnha8 kzbin.info/www/bejne/jYSTe2qAm8hnha8

[@ThatRandomPerson_13]

Bruh.

[@A_Moron_Is_I]

@L U C K Y • why .... just ... why

[@auraemerald8434]

@@A_Moron_Is_I Because bot

[@nox1233]

yeah maybe its for the best D:

[@tomlin19]

MatPat- “you killed the planet!” Me- “ah yes, tell that to the big gun that shot us and our rescue ship down.”

[@SalusKitty]

The aliens killed the planet

[@aydentew312]

@-Y O L A N D A- 🍎 holy god this bot is annoying

[@KyuuDesperation]

@@aydentew312 I agree. That Account should be Shameful, next time they're Bucking is in Hell XD

[@lukascisar6740]

Well, when I remember correrly it was their fault in two ways. First, they started containment (yes that big turret). Second, they tried to rush the grow of Sea Emperor's babies. And I will never forget they called us primitive creatures. At least we don't steal someone elses DNA to improve ourselves.

[@SalusKitty]

Every alien killed the planet

[@tyeburch-bowser7311]

Matpat, a couple of minor things about the aurora. The crash size was probably affected by a few things not stated in the episode. The captain's log makes it clear that he was still steering the ship when it went down with the intent on trying to minimize damage to the ship. He knew it needed to remain intact for a rescue to be possible. This, combined with the fact that the game takes place on the top of an inactive volcano instead of the ocean bottom, could account for why the damage was as small as it was. The aurora might have hit water first and then hit ground after slowing down.

[@striderpup1169]

It also landed at on a bunch of holes to the lava zone.

[@deweytheseadragon5100]

@@striderpup1169 That got covered up, Luckily we still have access to reapers.

[@megacheecks1603]

@@Selena-hz8yc why

[@megamehmeho657]

Plus the aurora actually landed on an island and not in the water at all

[@Kokolitofora]

Also, the crash was caused by the Cannon enforcing the quarantine and the filtered water is made of only a bladderfish, so it's safe to say that the containers are organic and biodegradable

[@person4562]

MatPat: the crash likely killed all life near the aurora Reaper Leviathans: "its about drive, its about power, we stay hungry we devour"

[@FishFactInc.]

Also sandsharks

[@ItachiC2Z]

​@@FishFactInc. When where realistic you have to think about the Distance of the back of Aurora to the save shallows and the stalker biom is not that faaar, and there is living all Kind of stuff😂 so this Theory is trash if you think about below zero where its pretty clear to see that theres nothing dead...

[@thesuperdk513]

Erm, actually the crash zone was originally a part of the safe shallows and reaper leviathans are only over there because they are attracted to how much noise the crash made.

[@ForTh3R3publ1c]

They definitely do devour…

[@pato_potato1]

also stalkers

[@milanbeerepoot4260]

The water bottles in subnautica are actually not plastic. You only need a bladderfish to make a water bottle, meaning that the bottles are fully biodegradable.

[@Dino_5500]

Post crash water bottles you mean, those found on the ship prior to the crash are likely plastic.

[@MbitaChizi]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/jqepaKuij56Dja8

[@kirknay]

@@Dino_5500 Given how Corporate works, and the fact that fabricators 3D print *molecules*, the bottles most likely aren't plastics. It would be easier and quicker to make them out of pure cellulose.

[@Dolph_]

Also the fabricators craft by recycling

[@dannydanny865]

@@Dino_5500 even if they were they were released in too small a quantity to have any major impact on the planet as such mat pat has made a fearmongering video

[@andreygusev7340]

Matpat: the problem that the game doesn't address Literally the game: "the aurora drive core will have devastating effects on the ecosystem if not contained within 24 hours"

[@justadot_5258]

Ikr

[@monikawrona7227]

True

[@miketrevtt1857]

Yup

[@aquamare1452]

me feeling bad cause I didnt head right to the aurora to repair it til 4 or 5 days after it exploded... too busy exploring and making my base

[@Jdthesuperstar]

@@aquamare1452 Yeah, those reapers are scary man.

[@kiebahow442]

Matpat: “the radiation would probably kill all the sea life near It instantly.” Reapers: “Is that a challenge?”

[@Resurgence47]

Not only does it survive, it thrives 😅

[@cirnofromtouhou3413]

reaper scary

[@santiagoalvarez6085]

It’s not funny

[@osk_bangooba4963]

@@santiagoalvarez6085 bozo

[@Georgiz160]

:)

[@alduinfr]

MatPat: *exits the lifepod* also MatPat: that's enough research

[@lecorbeauanonyme8458]

Accurate.

[@stupidmemebox8802]

True

[@yeeteater51]

bro took one look and made a 20 minute video

[@paperworldco.]

Ok that's just hate

[@paperworldco.]

And that's really bad

[@ahumanoidtroodon1074]

“The radiation probably killed the animals in the vicinity immediately” Reapers, actively travelling en mass to the irradiated zone: *I have no such weaknesses*

[@_-NatureMations-_]

Yea, they legit survive on radiation- Would you like to hear my theory about that?

[@twentypence9163]

@@_-NatureMations-_ no

[@_-NatureMations-_]

@@twentypence9163 Ok... I was asking them Lol

[@mememan1546]

@@_-NatureMations-_ what's your theory

[@_-NatureMations-_]

@@mememan1546 Perhaps since they are only found places near electricity and radiation(The aurora, the dunes with it's alien things, and the mountains with the alien base) they were created by the Pre-cursors to suck up radiation from the Degasi ship's crash. They would absorb the radiation, but in living with so much of it, went blind from radiation and developed echolocation to help with the murky junk filled waters. They eventually escaped and repopulated, creating the ones we know now, and when the Aurora crashed three went from the dunes(This is why the dunes has the least) and started feasting.

[@owerio]

"well beyond the scope of our crash site!" *what's it gonna do, kill one of the infinite dead zone ghost leviathans?*

[@patrykschwarzer7313]

@J͓̽u͓̽l͓̽i͓̽a͓̽n͓̽a͓̽_______💋 bro what the hell

[@thegrayshadow7676]

@@patrykschwarzer7313 I'm reporting the bot cuz why not?

[@cpmario97227]

Trueeeee

[@mistergameplayer4000]

Is it just me, or are we in another Botpocalypse? Been seeing em a hell of a lot more lately

[@makbran3627]

@@mistergameplayer4000 fr

[@BulletTooth504]

MatPat: "At last! I have found the Scroll of Truth!" Scroll of Truth: "Subnautica's in-game lore proves that the Aurora's crash will not cause the death of the planet." MatPat: [yeets the Scroll] "Nyehh!!!"

[@novacorponline]

MatPat: "YOU doomed the world of Subnautica, so recklessly crashing down onto the planet. Shame on you!" Anyone who actually played the game: "Well maybe I wouldn't have crashed down onto this planet if our ship wasn't SHOT OUT OF ORBIT!"

[@muffinboi4134]

Yeah i dont think he played beyond the aurora explosion

[@Sly-Moose]

EXACTLY!!

[@Raven1024]

That, and the fact that there's no human savior complex thing going on...the game makes it pretty clear that the only reason you are able to solve the disease is because 90% of the work was done for you, and you just have a little more empathy for...the..end bit...we'll say, just in case anyone doesn't want real spoilers... Also for the trash that pretty much everything is synthesized to order...I could be remembering incorrectly but didn't the vending machines even actually just basically digistruct everything Star Trek replicator style?

[@mustachemiss1983]

And maybe I wouldn't have crashed the ship if I were actually the pilot. Riley Robinson had 0 input over the ship's course or voyage, he was just the only one lucky enough to not die

[@hamburgergod3722]

@@Selena-hz8yc no

[@camocow666]

“A bit of story” *people who know the lore* “Ah yes, just a bit”

[@why2298]

@Racing Girl's 😘🤤 buddy I don’t think it’s private if your talking about your fun time in a public KZbin reply section. P.S There’s a reason why PH exist IDIOT GO POST THERE.

[@braindavidgilbert3147]

@@why2298 dont bother, its a malware bot

[@why2298]

@@braindavidgilbert3147 I’m joking.

[@imsad3630]

A story that he clearly didn’t actually bother to look into smh

[@FreyR_Kunn]

@@imsad3630 “humans are destroying everything and have a saviour complex on subnautica!” The players, who were shot down unwillingly, who have the most environmentally clean materials available, and who save the planet from complete extinction.

[@GrandGourd]

The player: Cures a virus that would've infected the entire planet and killed everything MatPat: We are not a net positive for this planet

[@fraserlangan8871]

The virus had been there for over 1000 years, if all life hadn't died by that point it was never going to die form Kharaa

[@imashadow699]

Are We... Really Cure The Planet? *Or Just Ourselves?*

[@GrandGourd]

@@imashadow699 The planet... we release baby Emperor leviathins into the ocean which then released the weird cure blobs into the ocean.

[@imashadow699]

@@GrandGourd I Thought The Blob Was Just For Us And They Won't Make It More 😅

[@Raiwrldacamedic]

@@imashadow699 Well, enzyme 32 is released by Juvenile Sea Emperor Leviathans, enzyme 32 being the cure for the Kharaa Bacterium.

[@niilokolehmainen]

"The game even has a LITTLE bit of story" -MatPat talking about Subnautica

[@jophi4092]

True, i mean it is 50%

[@ElliottSuperS]

a little? A LITTLE??!?

[@mcreaperleviathan2559]

Subnautica: has a lot of deep interesting lore Matpat: you destroyed the planet by littering

[@Sgtlake]

seeing as the bottles can be made directly via a bladder fish show's it's biodegradable.

[@DoggosGames]

@@Sgtlake It seems the filtered water is made of the cellulose from the fish skin

[@jediclarke]

It's made from the fish skin!? I think I'm going to be sick🤢🤮.

[@dogmat8733]

@@jediclarkewell, the description does say it isn’t vegan friendly.

[@mightythearmiddilo]

@@dogmat8733 the water bottle also disappears after you drink the water…

[@Ministrator03]

Hello Matpat, excuse my possibly clunky use of the english language. I was really excited about a Subnautica theory because of the incredible lore this beautiful game has to offer. This however turned out to be more of a TeamSeas ad then a theory. Believe me when I say, I'm a big fan of your theories in general, but this time just a pinch of actual research lets it fall apart. Please see the following evidence: The Impact of the craft being catastrophic: Logs you can find in the game (e.g. Lifepod 19 Second Officer Keen's Voicelog) confirm that the captain of the Aurora took over manual control and tried to execute a controlled descent of the ship after the midair/orbital incident. As the Aurora was trying to use the planet for a swing-by-maneuver it's trajectory in relation to the surface would have already been flat and due to its speed the craft would be able to hold this flat approach for a while. This would lead to the Aurora hitting the planet's surface at a much more controlled angle and potentially lower speed in the end compared to a "falling out of the sky" scenario, and therefore much less damage to the geology around the crash site. The waste of the Aurora being a danger to the ecosystem: While there certainly will be an impact of some items on that ship, it should be argued that a civilization this advanced will not rely on plastic as the material of their products. The fabricator (one of the game's crafting stations), where you craft the basic versions of the drinkable water items in the game, materializes them, bottle and all, from midair using some magical 3D printing laser synthesizing. Even if the bottle was made from polymer (I personally think they are made from metal, looking at the model, or rather from some sort of completely organic material as you can craft a water bottle using a fish as input material only), trash would not be an issue. A good indicator for this is the buildable trash can in the game. Its description says that it "Permanently deconstruct[s] unwanted items and safely release[s] their constituent atoms into the atmosphere." The same can be said for the similar functioning "Nuclear Waste Disposal" which also permanently deletes Nuclear Waste from existence. This technology exists and Below Zero shows there to be an ongoing human presence on the planet, so accumulating waste shouldn't be a thing. The radiation (could also insert dissolved chemicals) being a danger to the wildlife of 4546B: As it has been said, the radiation as a result of the leaking drive core would dissipate after a while, should the breaches be sealed. So there is a finite amount of radioactive material/radiation actually finding its way into the environment, that means it will start to be diluted by the ocean. The map we are playing on in Subnautica is called The Crater and is about 2x2km in size according to the data bank entry (Fun Fact: The actual size of the map is almost double that) with the rest of the planet (excluding Sector Zero) being an ecological deadzone with only microscopic and leviathan life. That would mean that the ocean currents would transport the majority of the radioactive material out of this small inhabited crater's area in no time. Your example of the radioactive material from the Fukushima disaster making it all the way to Canada in a really short timespan proves my point. The radiation spreads out, therefore gets weaker and as there is no source for more unnatural radiation to come from anymore, the affected volume of the medium (the water) will be moved and spare the crater. I sure hope we'll get a Subnautica episode about the extensive lore in the future. But hey, that's just a theory. A comment-section theory :)

[@multihacker3695]

This needs to be top comment..

[@knightmare5097]

Dude, your English is incredible!

[@LMill-ec2xm]

@@multihacker3695 yep

[@deli8878]

thank god someone who played the game, matpat although is really a great theorist, he never addresses these points or seems to make himself at the least like he played it.

[@ELMsAnightmare]

this comment was more interesting than the entire episode

[@mikoajciemiega8018]

"You shouldn't crash here" "Sorry, next time we will ask the alien weapons to not shoot us down"

[@Sniper_4_Life]

Nah, just park it somewhere in the abyss, it'll be fine

[@daysand123]

@@Sniper_4_Life Genshin Impact Abyss be like "BY HOLY PROCLAMATION!"

[@adventureswithcassius6702]

Lol true

[@michaelstaab2872]

@@daysand123 ?

[@alexanderfortner1062]

@@michaelstaab2872 guys lets just ask the giant alien gun to power down

[@CountCoffee]

The creatures in Subnautica are already used to (small amounts of) radiation. Here’s my proof: in most deeper biomes you can find radioactive crystals exposed underwater. The PDA talks about the radiation, and when you pick them up you can hear a Geiger counter make a radioactive sound. Reapers and Sandsharks thrive close enough to the Aurora even right after the explosion where the effects would be highly fatal for us without the proper equipment. Even jellyrays which have barely any protection behave normally in high doses of radiation. We might have killed a lot of the wildlife, but certainly not most of it.

[@Choompar]

Not to mention the bleeders living A ok inside the most radioactive place on the map

[@TryHardCentral]

​@@Choomparyo fr they r literally inside the core of the radiation

[@sinistergates6630]

Not saying the crash was harmless but the alternative was essentially mass extinction, i believe a very painful 100% lethality rate. So i would say our presence had a net positive.

[@chrissutch1192]

Important point (spoiler if anyone cares): blame the “Architects”. The Aurora was shot down, by an automated weapon. Another important point is time. Time is compressed for gameplay reasons. After all when the Sunbeam attempts to Mount their rescue - they announce they’re more than a week away. It doesn’t take a week before they show. & of course Sunbeam is also shot down, as was the Degassi years earlier. Humans didn’t doom that planet. Oh and one more important thing you seem to have missed; the Aurora’s captain stayed aboard to attempt a controlled crash landing. This is why the damage doesn’t match what you claimed would wipe out the whole zone. She didn’t simply auger in at terminal velocity.

[@realhumanbean7915]

Inb4 “They quarantined the planet with the ship battery” Can’t they have just adjusted the targeting range at the atmosphere instead of ships traveling near their planet?

[@Dedelblute3]

Since when did captains of ships just nose down the instant they lose all power? Ever heard of the plane crash in the hudson bay no?

[@chrissutch1192]

@@Dedelblute3 C5 crash at Bagram. kzbin.info/www/bejne/a5fTqaBmeZlpn7M Yes, Sully was able to make a controlled landing in the Hudson. & he was lucky to have made it. But that’s exactly my point. The Aurora was “set down” also.

[@Ava_Moatz]

Facts

[@MikePhantom]

WHAAAAAAT ? matpat ignoring crucial Information to make a baseless claim and call it a theory? NO WAAAAAY

[@dambugs]

Overall you've made some very compelling arguments, but I feel I have to point out two potential oversights. Most glaring is that in the audio and text logs you can find scattered around the game, it is revealed that the captain of the ship stayed on board until the very end to make a controlled decent. While not a proper landing, I feel it lends some credence as to why the crash zone is as small as it is. Perhaps it wasn't a proper or gentle landing, but neither was it a full force crash from orbital height. Coupled with a few other theories I've seen, the site of the crash may not have actually been shallow water. There may have been some small degree of dry land, which would explain why the terrain goes so far up to meet the ship nearly all the way around, even poking above the water for a sizable area around the shull of the Aurora. Secondly, with the exception of the truly absurd number of water bottles required to survive, you don't encounter much actual plastic. There may even be reason to suggest the water bottles might not even be plastic as we understand it today. In some cases, they almost resemble more of a metallic container. Though I feel a lot was overlooked in the creation of the game on that point, as no materials are actually required to create the container the water goes into. The bottle just seems to materialize out of nothing during the crafting process. Coupled with that, is the food seen on the ship and various cargo containers scattered throughout the environment. Most are not shown to have any individual containment or packaging of any kind (which is only stranger considering most are found stuffed into cargo boxes). Given the technological level portrayed, it's unlikely that food was brought pre-prepared from another world. And although the ingredients aren't shown or explained, the "Nutrient Block" in my opinion most closely resembles something akin to pemmican. A dry, often bready and nutrient right brick with a frankly mind-boggling shelf life that is often made mainly by survivalists today, and historically in many parts of the world. The logical conclusion is that given how technology has taken over, no one actually makes or stores these food bricks, but instead has them crafted at various and potentially specialized fabricators on the main ship (before the crash). As they can not be made by the player, either they were destroyed in the crash, or remain locked away into areas of the ship that could not be reached due to structural damage (or most likely, something simply overlooked in game development).

[@mrdark3011]

Did u really think someone will.read all.this

[@mateuszweyna7309]

​@@mrdark3011 the fact that your attention span is one word does not mean that everyone's is

[@mrdark3011]

@@mateuszweyna7309 hey btw Have u heard of fnaf

[@Cyphoenic]

Good point!

[@mrdark3011]

@@Cyphoenic ty

[@gear_head2286]

Matpat: you caused the death of this planet. The character who found the cure and stopped more leakage of radiation from the Aurora: am i a joke to you?

[@SparkDragonCat]

Even if you don't fix the Aurora (i started playing and am a chicken when it comes to the Aurora) the reapers that live there don't seem to be affected AT ALL

[@andrewcoleman9882]

Just play the darn game Mat-Pat, play the entire game, it’s amazing.

[@scp-wasp3463]

it's funny, the one thing he loves, is what he ignored here.

[@thickbread4225]

I played alitle dosa that qaunt

[@grubskies4221]

Yeah I literally just heard about this game let me write an entire theory on it

[@pef_v6107]

"You killed the planet" Damn guess it's my fault that aliens built a giant gun to shoot ships out of orbit because they got too close

[@hans4239]

Ah yes totally my fault

[@miketrevtt1857]

Ah yes

[@scp-wasp3463]

yeah, it's obvious he just read the wiki

[@IrradiatedNova]

@@scp-wasp3463 bro the wiki would've given him far more than enough, this man looked at the game for 5 seconds and thought he could make an accurate theory on it. (Love ya Mat but this theory was ridiculous, a bunch of key lore points were tossed aside just for an advertisement.)

[@scp-wasp3463]

@@IrradiatedNova that is true

[@wolfman2070]

Hi! As someone who’s played this game dozens of times, I have a *few* things to say about this theory: While the area surrounding the crash site doesn’t seem as damaged as it should be, the surface is only a small part of this game. A lot of this game, if not most, takes place *below* the ocean floor in underwater caves. As for the batteries, most of the batteries found in this game are still sealed in Alterra containers when found. Even if the batteries were exposed, and their copper contents spilling into the ocean, copper is already a naturally occurring recourse on this planet’s ocean floor surface. Also, this theory says that tens of thousands of wreckage are unaccounted for because there would be a lot more debris than just the metal scraps, but look not further than the *entire thruster* that detached from the Aurora during its crash, or in space orbiting the planet seen as the Neptune 01 rocket leaves the planet. And even if the negative effects of the Aurora’s crash exceeded the map we are given to explore during the game, the game takes place on a thermal crater risen above the ocean floor. The ocean surrounding the crash site is just an empty abyss as seen by the sheer drop off at the edge of the map. One final note is that the *entire* planet was doomed to the Kharaa bacterium long before the Aurora’s crash, and while the Aurora killed a significant amount of flora and fauna living on the thermal crater, the player onboard cured the planet of the deadly Kharaa and, as we see in Below Zero, it seems to have worked given the only Kharaa we see in the sequel is on a frozen leviathan. Sorry, not to be “that guy,” but I feel very passionately about this game and its story :) I understand that the cause for this theory is greater than just a video game and it’s pretty cool you guys are raising money to clean our non-fictional oceans!

[@GABRIEL-ej4ei]

Waw, thanks for this long comment, with your points made it makes sense and it defenetly changed my opinion

[@epicfish775]

This is true as I have played through the game multiple times too

[@thatonegoogleuser4144]

I was thinking the same thing most items we find like food and electronics are sealed in boxes

[@bloatedblitz]

yeah i was bouta say, this dont add up

[@WeeJocksey]

@@Ethan-_-Lim yep 👍 just beat me to it lol

[@Noah49295]

Ah yes, you're so right, it's totally my fault that the Aliens built a giant cannon to shoot anything that gets close to the planet. I'm so sorry.

[@toxic_bricks]

We shouldve told the aliens that we didnt want to get shot down, what a mistake

[@iGameriOS]

While I appreciate Matt's dedication to getting the facts, his information with regards to nuclear power and reactors is a bit off. I've been working in the nuclear power field for nearly a decade and its miscommunicated information like this that scares people. With out context of scale talking about radiation means very little. Explaining the values compared to chest x-rays, standard airplane flights or even bananas (yes they are radioactive) helps put things into context. Additionally the safety features in reactors are typically very well engineered and in the community we study what went wrong at both Fukushima and Chernobyl to ensure disasters like that never happen again. Matt in the future it would be nice to see you do a collaboration with somebody from the nuclear power field to explain the differences from game to reality. A lot of peoples only knowledge of nuclear power comes from movies or games, which often depict it as bad. No technology is inherently good or bad, its about who we use it.

[@7Seraphem7]

For example, sailors on board nuclear missile subs (meaning they are powered by a nuclear reactor, as are all active duty submarines in the US Navy) actually received less overall radiation exposure per year then your average person does due to spedning about half the year under water and thus not exposed to sunlight. Meaning living in a small metal tube with a nuclear reactor going 24/7 results in less radiation exposure then just taking a stroll outside on a sunny day.

[@redsoldier3264]

@@7Seraphem7 just don’t go outside 😎

[@justalittleturtle5600]

I was thinking that too. I had to write a report on multiple different occasions about which type of energy system I think would be best for the future of the planet, and it’s always been nuclear power. Of course, my ideal is nuclear fission, but that’s currently improbable. But out of all of them, nuclear has always been the most productive, currently powering like 70% France maybe I think fact check that, the most safe if handled appropriately and legally(Chernobyl was a massive fuckup of so many rules and regulations by Russia and what not to do), and has the most likely future in powering the earth. I’m sorry green people, but wind, solar, geothermal, etc just won’t power the earths current energy need, even together. And I’m sorry fossil people, but the earth can’t keep using it not only because it’s damaging to animals and people, but because it’s not renewable and we’re running out. Plus, green energy also damages the environment, we just don’t talk about it. Nuclear does by far, from my research, which is probably minuscule compared others, the least damage to the environment when handled properly.

[@tamerhorse9203]

Because it is futuristic technology it was most likely a fusion reactor. Or even better, if humans figured out a way to produce large amounts of antimatter efficiently, antimatter is the most efficient fuel possible (100% of the energy is released in antimatter-matter collisions) and if the storage system for the antimatter was even slightly damaged and even an extremely small amount of antimatter collided with regular matter it would cause a massive explosion of radiation. Also that would explain why the computer calls it a "quantum explosion".

[@KryptoKn8]

I've been telling this for years to everyone I know that's scared of nuclear power (imo the best powersource we have atm): The likelihood of a nuclear reactor going full meltdown like chernobyl or Fukushima is virtually 0, Especially since then they have absolutely outdone themselves in terms of safety measures and security features. And addressing the topic of nuclear waste, I'm pretty sure that scientists around the globe are working on 2 new types of reactors: one where you can re-use spent fission material until it becomes something like the sun has with iron OR a thorium reactor, which would just produce a side product that we can use for construction etc. I'm no expert on nuclear power or reactors, I'm just a student doing his A-levels. If I said anything incorrect, please do educate me.

[@Nekophy_]

When he started talking about radiation the first thing that I thought was “well, the reapers seem to be doing pretty good, even though they’re RIGHT NEXT TO THE SHIP”

[@MrAskmannen]

And bonesharks/sand sharks and misc safe shallows/kelp forest fish living right next to the crash zone in the radioactive area (which is larger than the crash zone biome)

[@thelegendofmidna88]

Survival of the fittest :p

[@destinyhntr]

@@MrAskmannen Yeah, it really seems to only hurt you (which is a shame because reapers are so, so scary)

[@Halo786]

there is a theory that the aurora crashed right into reaper territory and they just learned to fend off radiation or are immune to it because of biological evolution

[@MrAskmannen]

@@Halo786 animals cant learn to fend off radiation in a matter of hours/days, evolution doesnt work that way

[@billcipher3180]

I like how Matpat sometimes makes really in-depth theories about games while proving that he either didn't play the game or didn't pay any attention to the lore these kinds of things don't happen often but when they do it's the most entertaining thing on earth

[@hypermaeonyx4969]

You know you made a horrible theory if a chaos demon says the comment above

[@benjamingonzalez7014]

Yeah he did the same thing with hollow knight, mossbag has much more in-depth and accurate videos about it

[@navyeod_24]

He says "we" killed the planet whenever "we" were shot down by the Precursors. If anything, it's their fault for shooting us down and spreading this raditation. We had no clue about what would be on the planet, and we thought that the gravity sling manuver would work. Whoopsie do, it didn't and the Precursors shot us down. It's ironic that he brings up Enzyme 42 but doesn't pay attention to the huge factor of the Q.E.P.

[@StarFlatinum]

Does he even make the theory? I thought he just rips them off Reddit and takes credit for them.

[@theemeraldaxel5824]

For this one he definitely didn't play the game, the whole food/water packaging thing is completely debunked within minutes of playing the game

[@federicoxcc4966]

if I remember correctly, the AURORA's captain PDA states he remained in the ship to land it in one piece ( aka controlled emergency landing )

[@FreyR_Kunn]

Yes, the Captain stayed on board to make sure the Aurora's crash was minimised as much as possible. He transfers responsibility to Officer Keen, effectively making him de facto captain in his place

[@MitchJustChill]

I like how the comment section is split into two groups. 1 group disproving Mats theory on the subject of doing more harm than good considering subnauticas world seems far more advance than us. The 2nd half is PTSD victims of the game saying "yeah I killed the planet what about it?"

[@thegr8leo5]

Matpat might be at a lost for this theory, who knows. People are making amazing points of this theory and I honestly think this theory is wrong.

[@Fluffywusky]

@@thegr8leo5 yea its wrong

[@bat6684]

@@thegr8leo5 that’s why it’s called a theory

[@sparkfrog777]

Yeah this is probably another theory like his Hollow knight one

[@DarkSun123456789]

@@bat6684 A theory that can be debunked by someone like me who has never played the game and only seen a couple videos about it is not a "theory", it's talking bs.

[@disembonnie]

Every time I see the footage of a player swimming near the aurora my anxiety kicks in

[@Вэрилшер]

*That's where THEORISTS has gone* kzbin.info/www/bejne/jYSTe2qAm8hnha8 kzbin.info/www/bejne/jYSTe2qAm8hnha8

[@sirwaylonthe1st239]

Distant roaring intensifies.

[@Dolph_]

And the you hear the roars. When you hear it it’s too late

[@stickmanstudios4609]

Same bro

[@dlcemerald]

i used to have the same thing but I am a Subnautica sweat, basically invincible, so it's less scary to me

[@senatorarmstrong8960]

2 things. 1 in the game your PDA says too you that all the radiation is coming from the Aurora’s Power Core, which if you fix the Power Core the PDA then says that you have single handedly avoided a disaster. Or it says something like Crysis avoided I don’t remember the exact line. So the Radiation is no problem. 2. The entire Map of Subnautica is a giant Crater, and the Aurora crashed right on the edge of said Crater. If you look up a picture of the Subnautica map you’ll see what I’m talking about for yourself. What I’m saying here is would you Rather the Aurora fall 8,500 meters down, Thats as far as the Craters edge goes as far as the game tells us. Then the Radiation explodes outwords in every single direction. Because what happened when the Drive Core exploded was all the radiation leaked into the crater ya know where the game takes place. We also know as of Subnautica below Zero, that 4546B is now fully under control of the Federation. So we can assume that they have removed the Aurora or at least torn the vessel into smaller parts so they can be tossed into orbit We also know 1 other thing we know that the Aurora wasn’t traveling that fast when it hit the ocean ground, the Trailer for Subnautica starts with the captain of the vessel saying and I quote. “I’m attempting a controlled descend” AKA Slowing way down and pulling hard upwards to rip the speed WAYYYYY down. Also in Subnautic yes we still use Batteries and yes we use Copper however this changes later in the game where we discover Ion Crystal’s. Which according to the games PDA Has enough energy too match that of over 5 Million nukes combined, but its being released into a clean and reliable energy source that doesn’t harm anything. Something else… majority of the fish in Subnautica are immune or have high resistance to Radiation.

[@phantomknightencounterist]

And not to mention the PS4 trophy for doing that: extinction event avoided

[@hyko8355]

Also let's not forget that there's TONS of natural minerals exposed and copper is everywhere, I fully theorise that native fishes are completely adapted to live in environnement enriched in such elements. The wrecks are also made of element common to the planet, so they would do almost nothing.

[@Neoprenesiren]

You can see the fish immediately start scavenging the wreck and tearing parts of the hull off for minerals in their actual bodies, I think they're much more adapted to high levels of elements than anyone thinks. Hell even the reapers come a calling hoping to find some juicy little meals, although I don't understand why they would chase the player seeing as how he's like 100000x smaller than them. That would be like running a marathon only to get a peanut at the end for your trouble.

[@senatorarmstrong8960]

@@Neoprenesiren If you manage too scan a Reaper and read the PDA. It says that Reapers are all muscle and very little brain. Which probably explains why they eat basically anything

[@nadri3335]

yeah, you can see uranium deposits liying around exposed to the seawater, it is not like the fish wont survive a little bit more radiation

[@phantomknightencounterist]

Matpat:if you are close to the explosion you die instantly. Everybody with a brain : WELL NO F**KING SH*T

[@spielemeister7474]

I was so confused. yes of course you die when you are standing in an explosion, whats your point MatPat?

[@ElliottSuperS]

wait i wanna test this in game i dont know if it does lol

[@ferretzim8694]

I feel the need to point out some flaws in the expelled supply estimate. First of all, all of the supplies of the Aurora weren't expelled by the crash and explosion, as you can still find a lot in the areas of the ship that you can reach, with an unknown quantity within the inaccessible areas. Secondly, the Aurora wasn't the first ship to crash. The Degasi crashed almost a decade before that, and there aren't catastrophes stemming from that. Then there's also the fact that flora and fauna can be absurdly adaptable and resilient. You've got a pair of leviathans patrolling in close proximity to a lethal radioactive source seemingly unharmed, not to mention lizards that bathe in LAVA. Heck, you don't even need to look far to see strange adaptations. Tardigrades, for example, can survive radiation, extreme pressures both high and low, extreme temperatures, and even being exposed to outer space. And as others have pointed out, the Aurora's captain stayed until the end, attempting an emergency landing, as well as the fact we don't know what the crash zone previously looked like, but is suggested to have prehaps been landmass (or at least very shallow). It's also not completely Aurora's fault, the Architects didn't really plan things through when they just stuck a giant gun on the planet that shoots anything that comes close, because of "quarantine", as opposed to setting up a forcefield or something.

[@zomazoma4153]

OMGG kzbin.info/www/bejne/fIS2d5qNoamVgLc

[@johnwayne9670]

A

[@ahmed-ux3tl]

I was about to say it was mostly because of the architects for putting a massive gun that shoots anything that gets close

[@Chromus505]

its not that the architects didnt plan correctly, the gun was supposed to strand you on the planet as to prevent spreading of the bacteria to other planets. they thought dooming that planet was better then letting many planets get infected. but yeah a forcefield would be much better, but would also inspire hypotethical "space pirates" to break through it

[@bhesseling9949]

@@Chromus505 then make laser with a range that doesn't extend past the forcedfield

[@Achillobator_giganticus]

"The Aurora's drive core will cause devastating damage to the planet's ecosystem if not contained in the next 24 hours" _player does this._ _Planet not dead._

[@kalebmitchell8723]

This is the same PDA that kept track of how much Alterra property you "borrowed" and any precious minerals you acquired to launch you into debt for the rest of your life the minute you are rescued.

[@anahera6859]

It still exploded, which is why you’re able to enter the Aurora in the first place. It would’ve gotten worse had the player not stopped it, shown by the radiation field increasing over time, but the initial explosion did a good amount of damage, as well as the amount of time it took for the player to fix the drive core

[@Worldsworstgameplays]

@@anahera6859 the planet was already via the disease, that's why it was quarantined you saved the planet when you helped the giant leviathan lady hatch her eggs I Havnt completed below zero yet

[@anahera6859]

@@Worldsworstgameplays You’re absolutely right (and neither have I btw), however this specific comment was talking about how the radiation damage to the nearby ecosystem is negated by the player fixing the drive core, when realistically, the initial explosion that let the player into the aurora already let out a ton of radiation.

[@akshit_sharma1]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/oaW4iqJ-ptZ4gq8

[@bubble_ross]

"YOU doomed the planet" Correction, the aliens weapons which shot down our ship doomed the planet

[@bubble_ross]

@Soldier [TF2] gets more clicks ig

[@chaoticglitched]

you deserve way more likes this is strangely hilarious

[@darcieleboff5289]

Truth

[@CHERRYO_]

BROTHER I AM PINNED HERE

[@redblue3951]

it's shot down at least two more ships too...

[@GojiMasterZ]

"the radiation probably killed the animals in the vicinity immediately" Reapers: We march soldiers, WE MARCH ON

[@Fuckhandles21]

Im still standing🗣🔥🗣🔥💯💯

[@thefirstmdawg56]

Just a quick edit: Matt, I'm sure no one means to bash your message (hopefully at least), but there were a few key details missing in your theory. that being said, I think another game that could also serve to help the message is Raft Survival as it's a little closer to home. Keep up the good work, your episodes are always really gripping to watch! Lore-wise it would actually be incorrect to say that it's the human's fault for causing the pollution in the first place. *SPOILER WARNING, YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED OF THE SPOILER* The crash was caused by the architect's global defense system. So while yes the human's brought the trash and other pollutants to 4546b, it was by no means their fault, per say. That being said, you forgot to mention the other ship that gets shot down, if you don't disable the global defense system in time, and all the pollutants that get brought along with it.

[@Geoffthespider]

The sad part is this isn't even that huge of a spolier it happens super early and matt should have know this.

[@TheEmeraldPixel]

(a couple of things) In the game, in order to actually leave the planet, you need to repair the drive core, which means no more radiation. Even if the bottles are plastic, they're stuck at the bottom of the ocean by the containers, as none are floating around, and only a human can open the containers. There is no life around the Aroura's crash site to feed on the plastic, as rabbit tails are veggie-eaters, and the reaper is so large that it would likely ignore the tiny bottles. A reaper is by the tail end of the crash site, meaning that it is highly likely that the Aurora is completely fine to be around, even with all the negative effects. There are many underground areas that would not feel the affects of sediment displacement, radiation, or pollution. If the destruction from the Aurora is so bad, then why isn't all life extinct from the Degasi, seeing as it had ample time to kill anything around it, but didn't and is flourishing with sealife. If the destruction from the Aurora is so bad, then why is there life hanging around the remains of Sunbeam, seeing as it got the BFG treatment? Even if all life on the crater is killed, life on 4546b will go on, by simple notion that the entire game takes place on what's basically a flooded continent surrounded by 'the void', allowing for life at the equator, void life, and whatever other areas there could be like the crater to continue on outside this chernobyl-like area of inhospitability. (I'll see if I can add more in edits, but this is what I got rn, so enjoy)

[@semajniomet981]

@@TheEmeraldPixel The sad truth of the game is, you don't actually need to fix the drive core. The only thing that is mandatory from the Aurora is the Neptune Rocket. Fixing the drive core merely makes the game more convenient, and is actually not needed to win the game. Speaking of which, perhaps the reason that the radiation doesn't go that far is because the materials they use for power is MUCH shorter than the thing that MatPat mentioned?

[@Vomvaluidung]

Rip sunbeam

[@thefirstmdawg56]

@@TheEmeraldPixel You know, I totally forgot about the Degasi crash. And speaking of other crashes, you could even bring up the other crashed ships from Below Zero. If I remember correctly, they've been there even longer than the Degasi ship has and landed in similar locations as the Aurora and life is still flourishing around it. This one isn't even a spoiler either because the devs posted about it when they added it.

[@erichdegurechaff9515]

"You KILLED..." I didn't kill nothing. The player wasnt the pilot and the Architects that created the weapon that shoot the Aurora, how could any human know about it?

[@nigelxd3735]

@Videoms I wouldn't say noble, since they were only trying to cure the bacteria because it almost killed them all, and they found the bacteria when they were exploring and probably exploiting the resources of other planets

[@SolstaceWinters]

I don't see anyone else strapped with a biblical bill for the destruction of the Aurora and misuse of its materials. :P

[@Founderschannel123]

Idk but still later updates to the game make you understand more about the architects.So i guess in a way subnautica really never told us about it.

[@mythosknack]

@@nigelxd3735 actually, when playing the second game (spoilers) Alan mentioned that the reason why they were looking for a cure was due to the fact that they’re bodies are made up of different species. If it can effect the architects … a galaxy can get infected as well. So I would say it is a noble cause, but of course more story stuff in the second game it is revealed why the research was messed up

[@pyrie3472]

You assume that the futuristic ship wouldn't have more food then just packaged powder meals? They literally can make a building in seconds and can probably cook just as easily.

[@Ioncareboutts]

They had nutrient blocks

[@Sly-Moose]

Ya, this isn't his best theory. It's like he completely forgot the existence of the gun.

[@Lodada]

@@Sly-Moose in the game it tells you the only weapon you can make is the basic knife

[@vitoremanuel4374]

@@Lodada He was talking about the orbital battery that shoot down the Aurora, Degasi, Sunbeam and Mercury II.

[@pyrie3472]

@@Ioncareboutts yeah, i didnt say that they didnt have packaged stuff like that, but i fail to believe that its all they ate.

[@workingclasslizard]

as a subnautica fan, I am in pain watching this

[@antiwire8911]

Same

[@zachplaysallday-zpad5731]

Subnautica is literally my favorite game ever, and this video absolutely infuriated me

[@ElliottSuperS]

same

[@CookedTrout]

​@Samuele-hm2jv I knew I was In for it when he called the degasi ship tge aurora

[@skillfuldeep4552]

Honestly dropped the ball on researching here, while the video itself has a high as ever production quality, using models of plastic waste when there are little to none platics used in the game is just odd, khara has and would have had longer lasting effects on the planet wiping out life as we know it, not even mentioning the ecological dedzone when talking about the distance of the radiation or debris, or the adaptation that the aguatic life had already shown around existing crashes thriving in previous crash sites, or heck the giant gun that shot your ship out of orbit. Dissapointined is the lack of quality research here.

[@PhillyCh3zSt3ak]

I'm glad you mentioned the instigating incident. It isn't humans that caused the crash, it was a giant fricking laser gun from the Archetects that shot it down.

[@LoinkLoink]

@@PhillyCh3zSt3ak It is pretty lame how aggressive some of his titles are, like they're often just "It's your fault [insert tragedy in a game] happened!"

[@clayr.w1829]

It is lowkey annoying, especially how in this case he's wrong.. I saw a comment here from Erich Degurechaff that I agree with: "You KILLED..." I didn't kill nothing. The player wasnt the pilot and the Architects that created the weapon that shoot the Aurora, how could any human know about it?"

[@guife_lix]

@@LoinkLoink is it my fault the tomato town massacre happened?

[@chesneywhite9334]

It kinda reminds me of the guy who made a video complaining about how "fake" the evolution of the wildlife was, and about 1/4th of the way through it was clear he either didn't play the game or didn't touch his PDA entries

[@DraccyDwaggin]

Considering how deep other theories dig, I'm kinda surprised how shallow this one was. From replicators removing the need for most packaging to the fact that the water bottles are made of organic materials to the relatively tiny amount of material the Aurora brought to the planet to the 'semi-controlled' landing the captain achieved to minimize impact damage. The crash would certainly have an impact on the ecology for sure but you could probably dump 100 Aurora's onto the planet and have less impact on 4546B than we've had on Earth and we're still around (though for how much longer is debatable). I get you were making a tie-in episode but it was disappointing that it was done with such a surface-level theory on a great game.

[@orionphalynx6192]

True, true.

[@alt1763]

he needed da moni at least its not his superhot theory

[@gracewheeler3347]

Right, if he wanted to shove in an ecology theory, he could have played that crappy Endless Ocean game and talked about almost the same stuff. That would make sense since that game actually takes place in the human world

[@ethribin4188]

He uses this game for nothing but a dpringboard to talk about what he wanted to talk about. Earths ocean polution problem. Which is something that needs to be talked about! But there are much better games and themes to use as a springboard then subnautica.

[@JackJaxart]

Y’all say there are better games for him to do this theory with but let’s be real. You probably would not have watched this without subnautica’s name slapped on the title of the vid.

[@comoap2972]

I would like to point out that the water bottles in Subnautica are Biodegradable, because it states that the bottles are made out of organic matter (aka the bladderfish skin). how else do you think the bottle itself is made when you only give it a fish?

[@zomazoma4153]

OMGG kzbin.info/www/bejne/fIS2d5qNoamVgLc

[@fastfirefox1475]

I thought they would have been metal which I'm sure isnt as bad as plastic.

[@N8crafter]

@@fastfirefox1475 metal can actually lead to an increase in the growth of ocean life. corals seem to like growing on metals

[@SalusKitty]

What were thetmade of before they had bladderfish available?

[@what...101]

Although most of the water you find from the crash aren't the bladder fish made one

[@Jupiterplane_t]

Subnautica fans: you are not the whole circus you are the entire company

[@juancarlosarroyo9144]

Feels like a theory made to fit TeamSeas rather than an organic creation.

[@basically_boring]

the entire video was made in the name of teamseas

[@vadernation1233]

Which is hilarious because subnautica literally already has environmental messaging he just straight up ignored.

[@WaffleMakerz]

@@vadernation1233yeah like I’ve said several times this guy probably didn’t get the “getting your feet wet” achievement

[@the_cloaker]

i feel like if i put 15 crab squids into the starter zone the environment would kinda die

[@BoiledEggs1463]

You forgot to mention the only reason why there was so much trash was because the quarantine blaster shot both the aurora and the degassi ship, forcing them to crash land and not just land. The architects caused the infection to go world wide because they stole a sea dragon egg, and underestimated its motherly powers. Causing all the rest to go extinct. So it’s their fault not ours :)

[@jamesdinius7769]

Exactly. Can't blame humanity for this one. Blame the Architects that used the planet as a petri dish (the disease isn't even native to the planet), and set up an orbital cannon that doesn't even warn approaching ships that the planet is quarantined (and given hints in game, and especially the sequel the Architects were absolutely capable of communicating) before blasting them out of the sky.

[@eviljoshy3402]

Not only did we get shot down but were we even trying to land on the planet to begin with? It's been awhile since I last played but I was under the impression we were passing by and the laser shot us because we got too close to the planet.

[@sonichegehodge5778]

@@eviljoshy3402 nah the aurora was trying to land on the planet, their alternate mission was to look for the other ship that mysteriously disappeared on the planet too

[@TheAnimeRick]

@@eviljoshy3402 We had a side mission to look for the missing in action Degasi which was *shot down by the Architects* without warning by passing over and scanning that planet without landing unless we found something. Then we got *shot down without warning by the Architects*. Then the Sunbeam picked up our distress signal and came to help.... only to be *shot down without warning... by the Architects*... I'm seeing a pattern here.

[@formorian5]

@@sonichegehodge5778 If I undestand the lore right, the Aurora was going to gravity swing around the planet while secretly dropping the search team onto the planet from orbit. I don't think the Aurora intended to actually land. Remember the Sunbeam crew saying they've never parked a rig that big on a rock that small? Well, the Sunbeam is a lot smaller than the Aurora. I don't think the Aurora is even capable of landing on planets.

[@infernoxus1432]

As someone who played the game and loves it to death, this was more than a bit disappointing

[@cerealbeforemilk3566]

Aren't the aliens called precursors? It's been a while since I have played the game but loved it to death, this didn't do it justice.

[@potatojohnny3898]

@@cerealbeforemilk3566 yes and they are near godly beings with insane technology and godlike bodies and if you havent already then go see what they looked like cuz it was revealed in below zero

[@infernoxus1432]

@@cerealbeforemilk3566 officially they're Architects now, I think. But that's all Below Zero stuff, which was also great btw

[@cerealbeforemilk3566]

@@infernoxus1432 I have been meaning to play bellow zero ever since, Subnautica was such an impactful game for me. So I naturally tend to avoid spoilers, and was convinced the ancient aliens were called precursors and not architects

[@nobelnessie835]

@@cerealbeforemilk3566 they have different names, I think they named themself the precursors or architects

[@zachplaysallday-zpad5731]

“Humans are about to destroy the planet” Well it was the architects who built the weapon that shot down the aurora in the first place soooo….

[@mrducky6322]

“You killed the ecosystem on planet 4546 b” Me who almost had a good damn heart attack the time I turned around and a Reaper was charging me: good

[@AstroSalamander]

@J͓̽u͓̽l͓̽i͓̽a͓̽n͓̽a͓̽_______💋 no.

[@misterp1355]

the reaper:you've killed me..... everyone:good

[@knightmare5097]

Not to mention the fact that we didn’t kill it. The Architects did with their giant cannon and diseases.

[@mimikyu4327]

@@AstroSalamander Just report it, there's nothing else to do about it but hope KZbin does something.

[@AstroSalamander]

@@mimikyu4327 oh yeah i know its just fun to occasionally let my megachad energy flow a tiiiiny bit

[@americanbard1721]

So, I enjoy subnautica and I'll correct a couple of points. The map is actually in the middle of an inactive volcano that forms a bowl. The reason there's such a massive dead zone around the map has more to do with the death of certain leviathans well before the player's and not because of the crash or radiation. Also, they hint that where the Aurora crashes was actually originally above water and gets leveled as a result of the crash, so the damage to ocean life is lessened. Also, as far as radiation is concerned, water is a good shield. That's not to say there will be no impact, but probably not that much and once it's gone, it's gone, unlike oil. And as far as the plastics are concerned, that's not great, but it's the least of that ocean's problems.

[@johnathanegbert9277]

Diseases can cause ecological destruction

[@butters6795]

@@johnathanegbert9277 its okay we cured them ;D

[@johnathanegbert9277]

@@butters6795 b-but... I never played Subnautica

[@finaldusk1821]

All good, minus the part about radiation going away easier than oil. Look up how absurdly long it takes for typical radiation leaks to fade away, how far their effects can pass from one generation to the next, and the severity of those genetic defects. The planet would likely survive, but the damage would be far, FAR greater than how its depicted in-game.

[@Operator-ne8qn]

And didn’t the radiation leak get fixed?

[@TimeBucks]

I love the consistency.

[@someone454]

Same

[@gamerpl5686]

MatPat- "you killed the planet!" Me- "ah yes one crater on a volcanois the entire planet"

[@ZarkAnimates]

Aurora: **explodes and kills everything in the area** Reaper Leviathan: yo where did all my friends go?

[@Selena-hz8yc]

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[@xiswarmin]

The reaper leviathans don’t live there they’re indigenous to literally everywhere else you find them the only reason the leviathans are anywhere near the Aurora is because they’re attracted to sound and I’m pretty sure a spaceship crashing into the ocean followed by a huge explosion is pretty loud

[@mr.potato2223]

@@xiswarmin the Aurora landed on a island (maybe) and where do we know reapers hang out?

[@NekoiNemo]

@@xiswarmin I don't know if that's at all correct. Ghost Leviathans live everywhere (as clearly shown if you're dumb enough to venture into the Abyss despite PDA's warning), Reaper Leviathans seem to inhabit specifically the crater (as they are shown in multiple deeper biomes, not just around Aurora), and they are noticeably smaller than the Ghost Leviathans, so they would likely become the food for Ghosts were they to occupy the same biome as them

[@xiswarmin]

@@NekoiNemo first of all I never chinned the ghost secondly I meant every other biome you find the reapers

[@ProjectFraz]

I think matpat forgot the part where a giant gun on the planet shot the ship down and caused us to crash in the first place so it's not entirely our fault

[@mrwaffles3106]

its his persona 4 theory all over again

[@mrwaffles3106]

@Aisuru-Tokyo💕 sorry but epic gamers dont monster bait on November

[@lucaswold5327]

Yeah. The ship crashing was not our fault. It was the ancients who have doomed the planet because they made the gun. Maybe it was a good thing they died. Besides they all think we are interior anyway

[@maliantt]

Yeaaaaa, it's not our fault at all. Alterra, as we learn, is a shitty company that exploits any and everything for it's resources, but that's not relevant to the occasion. The Aurora just happens to be shot down while passing by a planet on a route not involving it and get shot done by a gun made by an alien race that has done only harm for the planet.

[@skaoititav7001]

@@lucaswold5327 The reason they made the gun was for a quarantine they thought the planet was a lost cause and installed it so it couldn't spread

[@bruhmettinmomentogullar4215]

One of the biggest misconceptions about ship wreckege is the paint. Red paint on the ships are especially there for poisoning animas such as barnacles. Because they are damaging the ship and they are traveling with it to literally everywhere and spreading . But spaceships doesnt need to consider something like that and doesnt has that kind of paint on them. So it would be much less impact on the ecology of the crashzone.

[@gameypiettvgamergames7463]

However, they are going to an aquatic planet. They don't know what's on the planet, however, most likely, they wouldn't.

[@Dingghis_Khaan]

@@gameypiettvgamergames7463 The Aurora and Degasi crews never intended to land on the planet. Both were attempting slingshot maneuvers to change course to somewhere else. The only reason why the Aurora and Degasi are on the planet is because of the *_GIANT ALIEN GUN_* that maintains the quarantine.

[@flershnork]

@@Dingghis_Khaan I mean, the Aurora did have the secondary purpose of landing on the planet to investigate the disappearance of the Degasi but even then I agree with you that I'm pretty sure that the Aurora never planned to land on the planet instead sending a few cyclopes, (hate that plural form) seamoths, and prawn suits to investigate the crater. We see that in one of the PDAs in a wreck and of course the presence of aquatic vehicles in the first place.

[@captaingoomba6907]

@@flershnork Weren't they going to *scan* the planet, not land on it?

[@MGSLurmey]

@@captaingoomba6907 Scan it, and if they found any evidence of the Degasi, likely send some seamoths or P.R.A.W.Ns down to investigate. Also want to mention to the commenter above, the Aurora didn't have a Cyclops bay to our knowledge, and the Cyclops isn't operable in space like the seamoth and P.R.A.W.N suits are.

[@jeremybeasley2272]

matpat: the planet is dead! me who just kills leviathans for fun: i know, and i enjoy it.

[@berserkerrex4411]

The one point I would like to tack on to your theory MatPat is our ability as the player to deconstruct and reconstruct matter at the atomic level using the fabricators we use throughout the game. With these devices we are able to deconstruct a bladder fish and transform its body into a water bottle containing filtered water. If we have the technology to convert organic matter into inorganic matter by simply pressing a button, then wouldn’t it make more sense that the Aurora would just store enough high density material, like osmium, onboard from which they could source material from for their fabricators? If that’s the case then the supply caches of batteries, food and water we find in game could just be a small stockpile of emergency supplies fabricated and jettisoned just before impact. As for where the high density material would be, it could be theorized that the impact displacement could have been powerful enough that it was picked up and carried into the void which isn’t too far to the right of the crash zone.

[@mikumikuareka]

To be fair, most plastic are actually an organic polymer.

[@VcSaJen]

According to Data Bank Entry, Fabricators are essentially just atomic-level 3D printers, they can't change elements themselves. Maximum they can do is change molecules, so I guess there's a supply of Carbon, Hydrogen, Oxygen, etc.

[@thefallenchaoskeeper]

One thing you forgot to add: “I an attempting a… controlled descent…” - captain if the Aurora in the Subnautica trailer

[@Dracnoss]

Matt... As someone who actually played the game, I can say that so much of this was wrong. - Aurora was shot down by the Architect quarantine laser platform and the captain still had some control of the ship, slowing it down enough to not hit as hard - all crafted things in the game were made specifically out of the surrounding flora/fauna, leaving it to be fully biodegradable - batteries and the reactor core were all well contained enough to not leak as much as you said - nutrient blocks had no packaging whatsoever, and Alterra is kinda bad when it comes to treating its employees so not as many nutrient blocks were made - the Kharaa virus was cured by the player, making the second game possible - the alien creatures living there already may have been immune to the radiation poisoning, like the Reaper Leviathans swimming around and the Biters + Crabs waltzing and swimming within

[@Rumins-ja09s]

Yeah matt put surprisingly little research

[@starlightthetribewing4774]

dont forget practically everything else living in radiation, sandsharks, countless prey fish, stalkers

[@HuugTuub]

@@Rumins-ja09s reminds me of a certain tf2 vs overwatch video..

[@darkousdragon1166]

@@cheesy7805 the G.U.N isn't needed anymore by the you disable it because the cure has been realised getting rid of the infection you know the whole point of the G.U.N being online Also fcking space poachers everything is controlled by like 8 companies who want 4546B for research

[@darkcyborgsuperman9521]

In his defense,most of the research in this video seems to focus mainly on ecology,history and chemistry rather than the lore.🤷‍♂️

[@athaleagreenlandindonesia3914]

Matpat in this video: hes got the spirit, but maybe he needs a little more knowledge about the game before assuming trash contaminates this crater on 4546B.

[@nightstarzzzz]

#Teamseas

[@chessnutz6314]

I agree with you. When i saw this on r/subnautica about mat basically just throwing away the basic evidence of what really happened is frieghtening

[@Pyth_Gamig1324]

@@chessnutz6314 just like how alterra said about the secret aurora mission... i think i just found something about alterra and mat...

[@chessnutz6314]

@@Pyth_Gamig1324 lol, you looking for mat senpai?

[@willcritical7242]

Yeah he forgets there was a ship before the Aroura and how all the plastic bottle on-ship are in sealed crates and the Aroura's leak being seal unlike Chernobyl's

[@sethmilks5450]

Another thing that was missed, he gives a food calculation based on the fact that it has been dehydrated , yet I distinctly recall their being a cafe of sorts with items like soda and vending machines onboard.

[@joshuachurchill2858]

This whole video essentially ignores the plot of the game, and the sheer technological advancement the future humans in this setting have made

[@Idk71568]

I know right.

[@guimts8881]

The captain goes down with his ship in order to make sure that it lands in one piece, and before the explosion the aurora is clearly in one piece. But Mat doesn't even acknowledge this, he acts as if the ship had been thrown at the planet instead of landing on it. Everything is downhill from there.

[@IbrahimAli-vt1fv]

Yeah, also I'm pretty sure humanity won't still be using plastic in the 23rd century.

[@gavinm3328]

Humanity literally took-over the Milky Way and Andromeda in this world, so I think they stopped using plastic water bottles.

[@galvenin505]

@@IbrahimAli-vt1fv we probably will, but subnautica bottles are made of organic materials, since the bladder fish skin goes somewhere

[@huzaifahahmed4303]

Well, I haven't played this game, I don't know it's lore, but everyone in the comments that does, brings up points disproving Mat's theory and I really hope he reads these comments and makes a part 2. Also #teamseas

[@statboy11]

Honestly he wanted to make a video for team seas, and wrote this one which completely disregards the actual game. A part 2 couldn't fix this travesty, he would be better served removing this video and just making a team seas PSA.

[@lucydrop8105]

@@statboy11 lmao exactly, ive played the game 3 times and i doubt matpat played it once, the entire plot is thrown away. The whole video seems almost like satire

[@dbzgoku4l853]

Damn … : kzbin.info/www/bejne/sIqkoYywgLqNe5o ….

[@jeremydrover5969]

This video had no real intent to be "accurate" or an in deeply researched theory. Someone approached him and said "ill pay you to make a PSA about ocean plastic" so he found some vaguely related topic he could chat about and frame the PSA around.

[@rad7794]

Yeah there is a complete story for it and he just completely ignored it

[@rhyspike7430]

Love you Matt, but I have some holes in your theory/ comments: 1. All of the plastics we find, and things like food and batteries, are store in titanium storage crates. So unless opened by the player on purpose, they shouldn't get out and contaminate the water 2. As the Aurora crashes, when you listen to the Black Box recording, you can hear him say that he's trying a "controlled decent." The obviously doesn't work completely, but it may account for the lack of damage we see to other areas of the map. 3. The entire playable area of Subnautica is called The Crater, since it was a volcano, and now is a caldera, ie how we have a Lava Lakes zone in the world. I think this would stop a lot of damage from spreading outside of the playable area, and especially stop much damage from occurring to the rest of the planet I think the species most at risk is the Ghost Leviathan, the ones that live in the Void specifically. Since they generally eat microorganisms.

[@happsk1211]

In the logs you find later in the game, you find that this is the only living area on the planet due to the peepers spreading the cure enzyme through alien water vents

[@Admiral_Grufus]

@@happsk1211 which turns out to be false because sector 0 is still fine

[@ldelgg]

plus, you quickly manage to stop the radiation spill of the ship and the packaging of the food is probably not made out of plastic giving that there are LITERAL MOLLECULE FABRICATORS, so cellulose would just be much more cheap

[@bentheben01]

Great point

[@maksiksq]

9:28 actually copper is only dangerous if ingested at big amounts, those batteries shouldn't be a big deal

[@dafruasida]

Matthew Patthew: you killed the planet! the entire subnautica community: you are not a clown, you are the entire circus

[@jediclarke]

Maybe Matpat should have thought about this before doing this, I honestly don't know what was going through his mind unless he wanted to get insulted😐.

[@coldwind6556]

@@jediclarke 💯

[@thegermanfool8953]

Bro never left the safe shallows.

[@boywithmonkyboy]

Bro never left the life pod Original comment was: Bro never left the trailer

[@natankoln8074]

I hope he dosent do a similar theory on any 2d Metroid games ending

[@senatornokia4071]

When the aurora explodes, you fix the radiation problem quite quickly and also most metals you find are already in the water, like copper, also again the water bottles are only made of bladderfish so they're not plastic at all, so it seems like we didn't do much but help the planet

[@FishFactInc.]

Also sandsharks, reapers and cave crawlers were surviving the radiation just fine

[@pansmieszek7254]

Gotta give this one to MatPat, yea they are in the water but copper, other materials are solid. Its not like with sugar, if you will put sugar in water it will mix, but thats not how it works with copper in game (At least i think thats how it works lol)

[@kolakyr1671]

Matpat makes theory, ignoring things like “controlled descent”, lore of the game, how detonation on Aurora occurred , size of a map and He made ship crush OUR fault, creating feeling about this video being no more than an ad.

[@saiyanfang1047]

AND he said that there's just food and water floating around... You get food and water from the environment not floating debris

[@LuisFelipe-jb1bq]

@@saiyanfang1047 yeah but you can still find nutrient blocks and water bottles in wrecks or in the aurora

[@saiyanfang1047]

@@LuisFelipe-jb1bq Not floating around in the ocean, because Matpat didn't play the game

[@Katsufon]

​@@saiyanfang1047he also said theres no land when he was talking about subnautica, but we do know that there are islands in the game

[@lucky6961]

@@LuisFelipe-jb1bqthey are made out of bio matter, they are fully degradable, in no moment we have acess to any sort of petroleum, the highest damaging matter we lay our hands on is uranium, which we can discard in a proper containment

[@UncleHornieAUS]

What happened was that the pilot of the Aurora guided the aurora down to safely land it after the turret shot it down. It can be assumed that with how little damage there is, he landed it safely and successfully at the cost of his own life. There's actually an audio file that proves this, the captain talking to the co-captain about attempting to safely land the aurora whilst mid attempt.

[@yomamas1559]

I love game theory but mat you really missed with this one. It doesn’t sound like you played the game? I love and support the causes you’re doing but if you wanted to do a video on garbage and the sea then you should’ve done the game Raft, there is literally no trash in this game, no nutrients bars had wrappers, they came in mental boxes or where laying around in the Aurora. No items in the game besides native and natural material in the game can float about (besides metal salvage) also, batteries were ALL inside metal boxes so they couldn’t leak either. The game has Fabricators, a big thing that debunks much of what you said, and how things are made and… fabricated. You mentioned that the Aurora’s crash should have been bigger then it initially was and so was the explosion? In the PDA the Captan of the ship and stayed on and didn’t take a life pod just so that the crash wouldn’t be as bad as you said it was supposed to be. Yes, Aurora Corp is a greedy and evil company and take awful care of there employees but dang, they really were careful with taking care of a ocean planet, one a few Aurora Corp employees have been to before. You take about think game as if it’s taken place during OUR time in the universe, you statement about the waste and nothing on fabricators REALLY makes me think you didn’t play the game. This theory just felt like some cop out video to get out there, just make a quick video and get it out fast, type of video… sounded and felt dishonest or half assed… Again loved the channel and the cause you are doing but this game has so much potential for other “theory’s” really if you wanted one that is relevant to the cause then you should’ve done it on Raft. Also edit: another thing to point out, it wasn’t the players fault you crash landed into the planet, we were shot out. I think the area where the player themselves might have caused a problem is disabling the tower that shot the Aurora out of orbit, making so anything else can go in and out of the planet and carry the disease in and out of it spreading it to somewhere else or other planets. That is unless by that time the Sea Emperors kids haven’t already spread the cure around, killing the diseases completely or mostly

[@Wheatly_Labs]

Good comment, but for your last point I think it’s fine because they can nab enzyme 42 at anytime.

[@yomamas1559]

@@Wheatly_Labs yeah agreed

[@krofgninut5984]

The quarantine enforcement platform will not let you disable it unless you cure yourself first

[@yomamas1559]

@@krofgninut5984 yeah, i never said it didn’t tho

[@xf_2s156]

Why did you write an entire essay bro

[@TaosoftheVoid]

Mat, as far as I recall, the area we explore in the game is one of two habitable areas left on Planet 4546B. Even assuming the area of the first game is exactly the same size as it is in game (I imagine game limitations made it not as large as it could be) then we're more ringing a death knell for what's left of the planet. Take one trip a little too far out and you do get a terrifying - but also depressing - message "entering ecological deadzone" In all likelihood, the planet may have been doomed regardless, as sad as it is. That being said, I'd love to see a theory about if the various leviathans could exist! Particularly interested in if the Ghost Leviathan is something that makes sense given the diet it has

[@bertiesaurus]

It isn’t the only habitable zone, it’s one of the only habitable zones (for humans). There is many creatures in the abyss too, the major part of 4546s population

[@TaosoftheVoid]

@@bertiesaurus Unless I'm mistaken, the only life outside the habitable areas in games are ghost leviathans and plankton. To be fair, I haven't actually played Below Zero since the alpha so I might just not know about some creatures!

[@bertiesaurus]

@@TaosoftheVoid that’s mostly true for the void, but in terms of the amount of it, there is tonnes, and as for below zero, it’s basically like another crater, but then in terms of the land, there is a sizeable amount, all with life on (presumably). At the end of subnautica as you leave, you can see an almost continent sized piece of dirt further on in the planet, (sub zero) and if I’m correct I’m pretty sure there are bright green coloured oceans too, suggesting other shallow areas that would harbour life the same way the crater does

[@TaosoftheVoid]

@@bertiesaurus Fair enough! Maybe it isn't an almost dead planet then, personally I kinda prefer that to be the case, alterra doesn't seem to be....very kind to anything. I mean, a lone survivor of a massive crash got strapped with the bill

[@bertiesaurus]

@@TaosoftheVoid yeah the whole concept of that reality with humanity being dictated by a megacorporate culture is really one that makes you hate alterra in every shape and form. But hey, at least they’re not like trying to mine and ruin 4546B. Their only interest is in the precursor technology, which will become a lot more apparent if you play subzero (play subzero rn it’s great)

[@thatguyrock5416]

Matpat, I love you, but this video was not researched properly, the "tsunami" that you talked about happened in the OG trailer for the game (I think it's canonical, even though you don't see it in the game)

[@Payne329]

I don’t think that trailer is canon, because of the Jelly ray in the shallows and the sea emperor in the shallows.

[@thatguyrock5416]

@@Payne329 I think that was just to build up hype, and the devs didn't know where to put a major plot point in the safe shallows anyway

[@Payne329]

@@thatguyrock5416 You are correct.

[@zorienisha5287]

MatPat, Here's the thing, the player did not ask to be stranded on the ocean planet. The ship was shot down by the planet's enforcer. Players know this because of the Sunbeam. Life was taking a turn for the worst already on the planet. The Aurora was unlucky to cross into someone's quarantine zone. How did the player know. Radioactive material was already on the planet. We just added more, but we assisted the planet in the end.

[@NoirParvana]

This entire video was such a huge stretch. It assumes that everything hundreds of years in the future is exactly the same as now. Which I consider to be incredibly short-sighted in a video parading around as science-based. Yea, I know that pointing out that subnautica is sci-fi is like protecting something with plot armor, but comparing a space craft from the end of the 22nd century to how NASA is currently getting to Mars is so bizarre and ridiculous.

[@hypermaeonyx4969]

and also, WE never intended to crash nor land on the ALIEN planet, how the hell would he know that a completely alien species would suffer ill effects of radiation? hell, the ship crashed right in an ecosystem with predators loitering literally around the crash site and are still kicking... or should I say, biting YOU. And what's more, there practically 0 plastic on the ship, only synthetic plastic and the rest is literally titanium junk and blueprints, and what's more it was an alien orbital defense system that shot down the ship

[@schrodingerscat3741]

Aside from the fact that subnatica is set in the far future, making any conclusions drawn from our current technologies shaky at best, there are a few facts established in the game that throw Matt's conclusions into doubt. First, the existence of the fabricators means that food can be prepared to order without individual packaging, and that such packaging can be reused repeatedly and easily. This, combined with the fact that most small items on board the ship would be incinerated instead of released, makes his estimate of the amount of trash released by the crash laughable. Second, the sheer number of crashes that have happened on this planet without destroying it's ecosystems any more than the Karaa has puts his conclusion that the Aurora's crash is devastating into doubt.

[@nekomakhea9440]

"You killed the planet" Me, systematically hunting down leviathans and punching them to death with a big stompy robot: No, I conquered it. There's only room on this world for one apex predator.

[@Puricifier]

Me who use mods for fun : "F*ck"

[@vst6727]

Haha nuclear torpedo go brrrrr

[@monkeprostar2445]

Cringe 🥶

[@90z79]

Haha one person with a nuclear minigun go brrrrrrrrrrrrrr

[@zeeneya115]

@@monkeprostar2445 no

[@wilsonpercivalhiggsbury5900]

I’m surprised he didn’t mention the Degasi and Sunbeam, I’d imagine three giant spaceships would be worse then one.

[@evablouseblanche112]

the Mercury II neither.

[@bimlauyomashitobi421]

Cause he doesn’t know about them. Anyone with even a minuscule knowledge of Subnautica can poke a hundred holes through his theory, he’s clearly never even played the game. Or, that is to say, his ghost writer who actually made the theory never had. May himself is nothing more than a glorified voice actor, practically just a mascot.

[@phantomsgamer9169]

Don’t egg him on

[@erichdegurechaff9515]

Degasi and Sunbeam arent giant ships. Aurora was like a dreadnought for long exploration, Degasi was like a yacht and the Sunbeam was like a boat used to transport people to the real ship

[@Joshuamiller19570]

@@bimlauyomashitobi421 A ton of premises for Theories nowadays come from other people yes, But with how busy he is all the time, Do you REALLY expect him too have flashes of inspiration, CONSISTENTLY enough, For him too make THREE Theories EVERY WEEK!? No, You'd have to be some kind of moron too assume that. Besides, He still spends anywhere between 80-100+ hours on each Theory for Research purposes, It's just now that he spends that time *split* between the three channels.

[@Bearcove-ml5rr]

MatPat: It’s just a game theory, his famous last words before quitting😢

[@nightinvestigations5273]

Now I don’t know a lot about the science behind this but I have played Subnautica. Now first off the bottles are metal not plastic. And our character didn’t solve the Kharaa virus the aliens actually did they couldn’t communicate with the sea emperor the one able to give the recipe for the hatching enzymes in order to hatch the sea emperors eggs. The emperor also mentions that the architects hurt it in some way and after not being able to communicate actually stopped trying because it held a grudge on them and refused to help them. The architects set up the peeper system to heal the wildlife to keep the planet alive. The Aurora wasn’t the first ship to crash land on the planet. And they didn’t crash on purpose because the architect laser made them due to the quarantine on the planet. And the area that you play in is actually a volcano and is a crater. It is clear that is isolated from the other parts of the planet and their ecosystems. And even though companies don’t have a good track record with caring for the environment the company that made the Aurora is designed for space travel and exploration you don’t hear any lore about other planets they have visited but I am sure with all that they have made they have learned how to affect the planet in the most little way possible even if their ships land and leak radiation everywhere. This is a Sci-fi game don’t critique it on the tech we have today. If you want to hear a good critic on this game and the flaws that it has I would recommend to watch Joseph Anderson’s critique on it. Because he at least went a little deeper into the lore of the game before giving it a critique like this.

[@biosaber585]

little right little wrong, the Emperor actually specifies she couldn't communicate with the Architects (likely due to their bodies not being organic like ours and thus their consciousnesses not being within her reach telepathically) and they were unable to force the incubation, They never hurt the Emperor but also didn't actively help the situation either. The peeper system also was NOT done by the Architects, the system the peepers use is for water cycling like for air and the like the peepers which are within game lore rather smart actually, just realized they could also use the system and the emperor used them to spread what little help it could.

[@redrock5817]

You be thor and ill be odin You rodent am omnipotent

[@nightinvestigations5273]

@@biosaber585 Your right in the sea emperor didn’t get hurt and I knew that she couldn’t communicate with them maybe I forgot to mention that. But I know do remember where I got that they hurt the sea emperor they took one of the eggs and forcibly hatched it. I am pretty sure you can find the body in the last base. I have always seen this as why she doesn’t give the recipe for the hatching enzymes. Because she states after opening the teleported that she gives you the secret that the others couldn’t force from her. This to me makes it sound that she couldn’t communicate with them but could at least somehow give them the enzymes idk just my theory on the situation. And I had no clue about the vent thing so thank you.

[@biosaber585]

@@nightinvestigations5273 no problem. You're correct they did forcibly hatch an egg however I never took her to be malicious over this act, maybe its just how we all interpret things.

[@nightinvestigations5273]

@@biosaber585 I definitely think it’s up to interpretation because the game is kinda unclear with it. And both outcomes are totally viable in the story.

[@peregrinus524]

"Happened to crash land" *Gets shot down by alien Anti Space laser*

[@potatoman9872]

Seriously like play the game first then go over the lore

[@ravioliravioligivemethefor3131]

@@potatoman9872 ikr

[@DudeGuy032]

While I'm sure The Aroura crashing would be devastating to the eco system, Karra had already destroyed most of the planet and would destroy the rest of it if left uncured. The Architects however, they actually let Karra escape and are the ones who shot down many ships trying to keep it from spreading destroying the planet faster.

[@tripwire3992]

They never let the virus out intentionally, the architect thought he could contain the sea dragon leviathan in that destroyed containment facility (I think its in the lost river if I remember) because he failed to properly contain it, he feels remorseful for his mistakes

[@ruben0222]

@@tripwire3992 not singular buddy, the architects are a whole species

[@MoistCrunchy]

@@tripwire3992 the architects are a species. Not a person. Also the sea emperor leviathan and the sea dragon are different things. The sea emperor leviathan is the final giant thing that talks to you. It wasn't hostile. The destroyed facility was researching sea *dragon* eggs, and the sea dragon broke it open to rescue its young.

[@tripwire3992]

@@MoistCrunchy by he I was referring to Al.an which is the specific architect we find in game

[@MoistCrunchy]

@@tripwire3992 he wasn't in the first game though

[@wololoman]

mat pat: “you killed the planet!” me: “well i’m sorry we got shot down by an alien enforcement turret, my fault”

[@michalbochenski4329]

Game Theory: You killed the ocean in Subnautica Ghost Leviathans: are you sure about that?

[@thestrategistbrit]

what about the dugasi, he didnt even mention it

[@kuparisiipi5173]

The Ghost leviathans hatch and grow within the cave systems, then move out to the dead zone once they grow too big, so that cycle would be disrupted as well.

[@michalbochenski4329]

@@thestrategistbrit the Degasi was a very small ship. It carried only 6 people.

[@michalbochenski4329]

@@kuparisiipi5173 well it wouldn't have a big effect on them because they hatch in the lost river which is 600 meters down.

[@goldh2o543]

@@kuparisiipi5173 not to mention that they are filter feeders, so with microorganism populations disrupted the ghost leviathans would be hurting

[@muffinboi4134]

The problem with this theory is you assume this civilization has made no advancements in manufacturing technology, also the whole map in subnautica is on top of a island in the middle of a massive super deep ocean. The most that would be hurt beyond the island is a few ghost leviathans.

[@luciacriscuolo9379]

I mean, i See no contamination agents in those alien tech things.

[@haku8135]

The entire planet isn't ONE crater (That's where you play, inside a crater, not an island) and then just an infinitely deep ocean full of NOTHING but ghost leviathans. That's what's IMMEDIATELY around the crater. Beyond that is other ecosystems and lots of life. And they have made advancements in manufacturing, obviously. They can now make plastic bottles in the field as well. So..... yeah, don't pretend Alterra CARES about the environment.

[@Groovemonkey-pd4ht]

And the theory doesn't even account for most of the planet being water - greatly diluting the radiation.

[@colinsmith1495]

@@Groovemonkey-pd4ht Heck, he doesn't even account for the nature of the radiation leak. All the evidence points to a leak of ACTUAL RADIATION, not radioactive materials. That's worlds different and he should know better. He even glossed over the key evidence as if it were nothing (You seal up the reactor and the radiation disappears).

[@Ravenousjoe]

@@haku8135 AKA a Caldera

[@bonesinabag]

The batteries/power cells and water bottles we find around the Aurora were actually kept safe in boxes, so nothing could've leaked out.

[@bluehat3580]

Exactly

[@CityWokChicken]

@@jebblottin92 Nah they aren’t just made like that everywhere in the games universe. It’s the elements within the mushrooms that the fabricator utilizes. I mean the best example I can think of is the enameled glass, it uses stalker teeth. Stalkers don’t exist on earth, well not these kinds of stalkers. But the fabricator breaks down the raw materials, and utilizes those for the production of new materials.

[@micravinxenos3047]

What are the boxes made out of then?

[@pishka3]

@the golden doomslayer True, Technically the reapers near the aurora didn't seem to suffer much damage from either the radiation or the explosion itself, as well as the fact that the radiation that spreads from the reactor explosion doesn't seem to affect fauna in the nearby biomes either, so it seems likely that the fauna generally is immune to radiation.

[@phoashleyenixblack1232]

And the water bottles have no confirmed material

[@JeremyTheBluespottedCornetfish]

This is maybe the only theory that Matpat got absolutely wrong, yes, the crash maybe did do something bad, but this video released when we already knew about Below Zero! And that game proves the planet is much bigger!

[@stardust7186]

I have to heavily disagree with this it’s not the player’s fault it goes back further than that, you forgot to mention a few things. The Aurora would of never crashed if it wasn’t shot down by the “Quarantine Enforcement Platform” made by the what GameTheory called “The Architects” I’m going to call them the “precursors” because that’s what I’m used to saying. Okay anyways the Aurora never would have stopped by planet 4546B the planet subnautica takes place in if the Degasi spacecraft before was never shot down. The Aurora’s primary mission was to construct phase gates, but it’s second was to search for the survivors of the Degasi years earlier similar to how Sunbeam tries to rescue you in the earlier parts of the game. Similar to Sunbeam and the Aurora the Degasi was shot down by Quarantine Enforcement Playform which was made by the precursors. The precursors made the facility to prevent any incoming and outgoing spacecraft from carrying the Kharaa Bacteria outside the planet. So technically it’s the precursor’s fault not the player’s fault also how would the player be at fault for the ship crashing? Technically the Quarantine Enforcement Platforn never would have been activated if the Kharaa bacteria never escaped from the Disease research facility made by the precursors when it was attacked by a sea dragon leviathan and then collapsed to the sea floor. That might make you think that no, it was that leviathan’s fault, but actually no. The precursors took one of the leviathan’s eggs and then leviathan was trying to get it back and ended up realizing the bacteria, forcing the precursors to activate the Quarantine Enforcement Platform leading to the events seen in the game. Sorry if that was a long one.

[@vitoremanuel4374]

Perfectly explained

[@Sly-Moose]

MatPat really didn't do his research. 🤣

[@heartlessnobody1143]

Soooooooooo blame the stupid xenos?

[@edbob6463]

Blame the Xenos

[@daktotathecolossus7404]

@@Sly-Moose never does

[@joecatsination9629]

If you want a reason as to why the aurora’s crash isn’t as devastating as it should have been potentially the voice log of the captain would explain that as his last log is him saying “I’m attempting a controlled descent”

[@alduinfr]

exactly

[@hypergamer254]

actually it was the paul torgal (correct me if i said hi name wrong) that said it but the captain did try to make a controlled descent

[@blackmesaenjoyer]

​@@hypergamer254pretty sure unknown worlds just reused voice line

[@hypergamer254]

yeah maybe

[@ClarksCars]

16:03 this is actually explained if you DONT fix the aurora. When not fixing the aurora it says "if the aurora is not fixed in a couple days the ecosystems surrounding the area will be affected by radiation" so even tho the size of the blast and radiation is diled down WAYYYY to much it will still do the same thing it would irl

[@Dedelblute3]

"Lifeform readings in this region are sparse. The Aurora's radioactive fallout will have devastating effects on the alien ecosystem if not contained within the next 24 hours." If you wait for a day to pass in game time NOTHING HAPPENS. Also, Subnautica below zero retconned this whole thing.

[@Astrojox_]

Wait you could fix the aurora?

[@ClarksCars]

@@Dedelblute3 in the game nothing will happen but I'm saying in technicality

[@ClarksCars]

@@Astrojox_ ye it gets rid a radiation around it

[@Kempkept]

And plus does the first game take place in a “bowl” and it’s has giant creatures in it around it

[@your_fav_-neko6219]

Did anyone notice that at 1:28 mattpatt says a video of what mister beast isnt telling u in the aclground was he warining us?

[@ThatOneCorvusKing]

My all-time favorite game gets a theory, and it's a ill-prepared one on the initial events of the game. (Mild spoilers for both games) It's not how Margarite survived the kraa, or if the frozen leviathan can escape, or whether the sea dragons will go extinct because the aurora crash ruined their path to the surface. You could talk about ALAN, and collective consciousness, or how the emperor can produce enzymes, or whether a sea dragon could really break a progenitor (architect) structure. You could talk about whether there is a Gargantuan Leviathan in the void, or how the creatures got their "arctic" variations, how the stalker line evolved differently in the different environments, how the Emperor can use telepathy to talk to you, etc. There is so much theory-worthy material on 4546B, you don't need to answer questions that nobody asked. No hate, I love your channel, but please, *please*, do a video on Subnautica that's more of a theory and less of you trying to fit your Collab. I support TeamSeas, but do a theory on Raft and global warming, or something else that is more comparable.

[@alt1763]

thats below zero, not subnautica itself there is some lore still

[@kokz6.poschodia456]

I think he wouldnt have done a video about subnautica in the first place if it was not for that collab. Also raft would be a lot more suitable for this topic. He just found the first game that had water and garbage in it, masked it like its actually a full fledged theory video, only for it to be an advert of some sort. EDIT: Just realized that metal wreckages might not actually be "garbage in the oceans" so he just found the first game with just water.

[@thelegendofmidna88]

I love game theory so much support, but damn I agree it kinda hurt for such an amazing game to be given a theory that makes not much sense. I'm glad awareness is given but such an amazing game should be given More love and accurate theories than that. I'd buy matpat the game if he'd like so he can understand how this planet is not gonna die out from one ship (infact there's multiple) where gargantuan leviathans used to roam.

[@red_crownn]

Marguerite surviving the kharaa is actually lore worthy as the disease killed the architects,almost all wildlife on the planet and maybe the frozen leviathan and I'm not just gonna go out here and say that the emperor making enzyme or ALAN being a being that is 1,000,000s of times advanced than us isn't worthy of being lore.The point that I'm getting at is that the leviathans,the Architects,sea dragon are all worthy of being lore because of their terms of power and size.The fact that the sea dragon could break something that is fully attached to the ground is very impressive and a creature that produce enzymes that can cure the most deadly disease in the universe is phenomenal as hyper advanced aliens couldn't solve it themself.

[@red_crownn]

@@thelegendofmidna88 Gargantuan leviathans were most likely killed of the super low temperature in the void or the acid eating away at them in the Lost River

[@IrradiatedNova]

"Believe me, There was a lot of diving and searching involved." So, uh fun fact, Diving goes down to around 60m and Deep Diving goes to around 120m. MatPat love you bro, but you went down to 10m in a game where you can go 4000m+ in and called it a day. The amount of lore (which I'm sure the comments told you alot of already) is well, quite a bit, Honestly I would love to see you play this on GT Live or maybe make a Food Theory out of it. Hope you come across this game again soon.

[@retro777br]

Food theory: the dangers cured spadefish can cause to your heart

[@MSKofAlexandria]

@@retro777brOr the water bottles, would like to know if fish cellulose could actually make a water bottle, although I can research that on my own

[@theradioactiveplayer3461]

On thing, Mat: a terrestrial boat doesn't usually have an ocean entry speed in excess of mach 1. It's entirely possible that the Aurora skipped across the surface of the water (owing in part to the fact that, according to the lore, the ship's captain was still alive and driving until the end) and only then ended up landing in the raised, volcanic crater we all know and love. Alternatively, if the cutscenes/trailers are to be taken as gospel, the ship may have traveled for some distance entirely underwater, producing all the effects you describe, excepting the fact it would have been in the "ecological dead zone", and because of the relative incompressibility of water would have little visible effect on the game location, which is an unspecified distance from the theoretical initial point of aquatic entry.

[@ukalistaxd9464]

Let's not forget that Subnautica takes place in the VERY FAR FUTURE where Human Technology is so advanced that they have fabricators that can make literally anything and build structures and vehicles without manual labor. I'm sure they already found a way to make biodegradable plastic and batteries... I mean water is literally crafted from just Bladder Fish alone, which means no Plastic was ever used! And the radiation thing we as the player literally go inside the Aurora to stop it's radiation plus let's not forget that these are alien lifeforms that may or may not have tolerance/immunity to the effects of radiations.... (Reaper Leviathans ahem... ahem...) And another thing The Aurora wasn't the only ship that crashed in the planet, there were 2 others the Mercury II and Degasi and that was many2x years ago yet the ecosystems was still fine proving that the creature of this planet are more durable than what we have on Earth And lastly the Aurora and many other ships before us only crashed because of the Alien Containment Weapon that shot them to contain the Infection so If anything this is obviously the Precursor's fault...

[@LixabL]

bro is the new MatPat

[@TheLastBacon]

Subnautica on The Game Theorists channel?! Yes please! :)

[@Вэрилшер]

*That's where THE ORISTS has gone:* kzbin.info/www/bejne/jYSTe2qAm8hnha8 kzbin.info/www/bejne/jYSTe2qAm8hnha8

[@Вэрилшер]

Hi

[@iamacar1017]

fancy seeing you here :) i like your content btw

[@dfprod.]

@@iamacar1017 same

[@Jespoe14]

Glad to see I wasn’t the only one waiting for it

[@JazzXO]

I was excited for this one because Subnautica is one of my favourite games. It just feels weird though, using earth standards on an alien planet with very clearly different conditions and lifeforms, and a spaceship with future technology. I would love to see another Subnautica episode with theories about what happened to the other lifepods after the crash, but unfortunately this one was quite lackluster :(

[@gooquestione]

This

[@AbstractWacky]

Well not every lifepod made it into the crater, some might of not even made it into the planet and were stuck in space, others could've been completely destroyed upon impact or worse, landed in the void

[@micravinxenos3047]

true its another planet and animal life = may not be harmed by our usual pollution, but who's to say what was dropped wasn't even more harmful than what hes guessing? Could go either way

[@minimineconsp6876]

Not to mention his theory does not add up with subnautica below zero because as you can see in subnautica below zero

[@lilychang6527]

Same!!! I waited sooo long for a theory on this but I was so sad when it wasn’t good

[@bodakin]

Subnautica’s PDA never says their is any packaged food, it actually said that you could eat stuff like nutrient blocks as well as fruits and nuts

[@Dinonuggies-dy1zt]

There is a kitchen in the aurora that serves other foods

[@Joeceanography]

Tsunami formation is so cool in hydrodynamics the tectonic plate slips making a sudden drop below a large body of water so the water shifts down, all the water moves towards the drop and swells back in a big wave

[@generaldurandal3568]

The water bottles might be made of iron. You just need 1 bladder fish to make a bottle of water. No plastic needed in crafting, meaning the bottle is made up of something in the fish's body. Perhaps a amalgam of calcium and iron.

[@xenomorphoverlord]

Or that's just to prevent it from looking like we're straight sucking water out of the bladder fish

[@augustomoreira7441]

or the fish's skin

[@alwintka]

mabye the leftover bones

[@mrbreadcat9969]

The bottles actually made of a thin steel

[@tsukirei4135]

@@mrbreadcat9969 if its made from metal it would be rather titanium than steel