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Dark Souls is, without question, my favorite modern gaming franchise. But doing a theory on these games requires an IMMENSE amount of explanation since every element of Dark Souls lore is hidden in things like item descriptions and design details. So today, I'm reviewing the entire Dark Souls story and setting up the pieces to unlock these games' greatest mystery -- who are you playing as in Dark Souls 3? Because when you actually put the puzzle pieces together, your character ISN'T just a nameless protagonist, but rather DOES have a lore behind him...but it's going to take a LONG time to get there. So apologies for the 2-parter, but in order to make sure everyone understands what's going on when I start getting deeper into Dark Souls Lore, I had to make sure we all had a solid understanding of the main plot and characters! And to make it better -- there's a giveaway! Huzzah!
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[@GameTheory]

Dear Angry Commenters: 1. I didn't delete VaatiVidya's comment. I NEVER delete comments. KZbin refreshes comment threads all the time to show more recent ones. His is probably buried in the 55,000 others the video has. 2. Sorry we showed Patches' head on Siegward. The editors do a lot of Google Image searching, especially for franchises they're not as familiar with, and while I thought it was weird to see Siegward's face (I didn't remember it from my playthroughs and was something that, as I was giving notes gave me a red flag), I had forgotten that Patches steals his armor and didn't fully check it out. But one minor mistake like that shouldn't discount the theory, undermine my enthusiasm for this franchise, or prompt the rage you guys are sending. 3. Yes, a lot of this is basic -- but I can't assume people know ANYTHING about Dark Souls and I want everyone to appreciate the lore of the series. The next episode gets REALLY deep, so I had to start everyone on the same level so next week's follow-up will make sense.

[@scledbcknislted8018]

I side with MatPat lol

[@hadewun9190]

Loved this video! Can't wait till the next one!

[@archer3398]

The Game Theorists thanks

[@Spellfork]

Aaaw, and I was hoping for some major mindblow due to the Patches/Siegward thing :/

[@tylerh8756]

I'm a little surprised (though I shouldn't be) that this many people got all fired up about the Patches thing.

[@doomer2electricboogaloo730]

"...99% of players will never really appreciate the lore." The entire Dark Souls fanbase: Do you even know who I am?

[@littlemoth4956]

You mean the guys that watch VaatiVidya once? Yeah okay

[@tvlivingroom6626]

@@littlemoth4956 and You think VaatiVidya is working alone to find out the lore? yeah okay.

[@sumbody694]

@@littlemoth4956 You realize Vaati has tons of videos on his version of the lore and its work that he got help with from many sources. Vaati gives the most based and realistic vision of how the lore plays out and people like it because based on what the game gives us its the most likely way the lore actually went about.

[@ILoveLuhaidan]

I am a dark souls fan and I never understood the lore so yea

[@CesarGarcia-nd5xz]

I think you seriously underestimate the souls borne community; we are one of the most dedicated out there.

[@AstonishingRed]

MattPat: I have an interesting theory about Dark Souls Lore! Vaatividya: Hold my Estus Flask

[@mariliasilva1391]

Vaatividya: let me just steal someone else's ideas and make them my own

[@AstonishingRed]

Marilia Silva Well Vaati has certainly never taken credit for making Souls lore his own. He simply expounds on it the same way Mattpat has opened up FNAF for many ppl.

[@jovan9989]

Papa Hawkshaw would have to say something about that.

[@SirDankleberry]

@@mariliasilva1391 Get out.

[@mr.whiskers6411]

What did he say

[@submarinesailor5140]

Siegward doesn’t get summoned. He just walks in with you if you did all his quest stuff

[@jmorel42]

Exactly

[@gavinburrows7891]

In defense of reptitive plot it’s supposed to show a cycle that keeps repeating but needs to end it actually does a good job of telling that if you see the story of all the npcs

[@takikarin2330]

“Why is there no long dialogue?” Miyazaki: “You wouldn’t get it.”

[@blaisepayne6404]

Taking a step into the Dark Souls community is like opening Pandora's box

[@mythoclass_]

Matpat didn’t have to look that far into hawkwood, since the item description of his weapons and armour say that he was a deserter from the undead legion

[@sirrrrrrrrr]

This theory gives me conniptions.

[@connorshort2308]

Conniptions

[@connorshort2308]

I love that phrase

[@entermyvbuckgiveaway4787]

Can’t even die right

[@dexterityisbetterthanstren8961]

Who said that

[@Bevsworld04]

@@dexterityisbetterthanstren8961 the guy who likes to talk about the abyss watchers in firelink

[@Jason-ty4dl]

Matpat that's not Siegward of Catarina, that's patches someone who is in every dark souls games and trolls u. In dark souls 3 he steals Siegward's armour who is somebody your character trusts and trolls u by that identity. You can actually find Siegward later on in the game in a hole where u can give back his armour and then later on he helps you defeat Yorhm the giant which they have a cool back story together but I'm not gonna say every detail cause this message would be really long.

[@aajjeee]

Jason hes not in every dark souls, they are different people that happen to share a first name and general manners

[@samuelshaw8856]

Barnesrino Kripperino he's in every damned one. I know from experience he is even in demon souls...

[@aajjeee]

samuel shaw they are different patches

[@NeiradNeuCifer]

Patches is in every FromSoft game as far as I know. A character named Patches anyway, and he's always a dick

[@DarthSnugglePuss]

Neirad Shiruani Patches isn't in Dark Souls 2.

[@masterklaw4527]

Say what you will about these videos, but this is how I got into Dark Souls.

[@spicecooking]

Me too

[@TrueApexMusic]

I got into it from Austin’s video on the music

[@KagekiriToriko]

Same. This theory is actually the backstory I settled on for my character. I view the corpse atop the Castle as a diversion. Whoever that turned out to be wasn't the true 3rd Blackhand in my headcanon; it was someone the King sent up there to stall the tougher Winged Knights

[@josephcirrincone9596]

Same here

[@God46400]

Same

[@drifterax7731]

I’ve done some deep thinking since this video and come to a conclusion. (My theory implies this videos theory is correct which I believe to be true so take this with a pinch of salt.) If the player is the third black hand that’s cool but what bothers me is “what was his name?” If you type “Black Hand..” into the character creator name slot you’ll notice you have 6 spaces left (1 for a gap so 5) This means the player characters name was 5 letters long. Black Hand Gotthard’s name means: “as strong as God” Black Hand Kamui’s name means: “Gods authority” Judging by this theme then the third Black Hand has a 5 letter name meaning something to do with god. I did a seriously ridiculous amount of time searching names related to god and found few that fit the 5 letters and “God’s ...” guideline, so I gave up. Months later I chose to replay Dark Souls 2 (Forgive me..), throughout the game you can summon an NPC called Drifter Swordsman Aidel. My name is Drifter so I see him as a brother of sorts, anyway I chose to google his name and it means “God’s gift” 5 letters long and means something to do with god The name of the third Black Hand and possibly the player character is most likely Aidel. This opens a new question: is Drifter Swordsman Aidel the Dark Souls 3 protagonist many years before he became a Black Hand member??? Thank you if you read this far, you’re awesome and I hope you liked my theory

[@therealviejo2516]

That’s awesome

[@gedewahyu.p]

This is a better theory, thank you.

[@drifterax7731]

@@gedewahyu.p thanks man :)

[@baccea-3766]

THUMBS UP FOR PATCHES FOOLING MATPAT INTO THINKING HE'S THE ONION KNIGHT.

[@soulbiscuit6850]

Baccea - it was bothering me too. Makes me question how much this guy actually paid attention to the game.

[@Bricktor]

Actually Patches fooled the editors.

[@ThePteropterus]

don't mention it or you'll get your comment deleted like vaati imgur.com/a/9qLGV

[@BB-eg2ji]

Don't bother, he's deleting all the comments pointing out he's wrong, even Vaati himself. imgur.com/a/9qLGV

[@baccea-3766]

Wow. Is this real life?

[@thepruld]

10:50 - ouch!

[@shiroyasha7324]

Oh hi pruld :)

[@HAOSxy]

Non preoccuparti, si sono resi conto dell'errore

[@parrymegundyr]

Welcome Pruld!

[@parrymegundyr]

ikr

[@electricboogaloo6917]

WHERE IS THE THIRD EPISODE OSCAR?!

[@x-x1viiq]

Anri is actually not necessarily a she, Anri is always the opposite gender of the player.

[@jacoblister3244]

I've only ever encountered Anri as a dude, I'm not dissagreeing, just proving your point

[@1opforremaining774]

Jacob Lister Have you played as a male? Because ive played as both for different runs and cosplays and challenges and it does completely go on the gender of your player.

[@xenaioaks5363]

He voice is hot as male. The world will darken and they shall be my husband/wife/partner

[@GavinWilliamson13]

ye because of the wedding

[@peenyyt4921]

The model is always female

[@npc_N8]

I laugh every time someone says Dark Souls is hard. Then they laugh when I tell them how I'm laughably bad at Mario games...

[@_-7734]

Cant relate cuz im master in both

[@erlonbrunosouzamiranda8525]

I'm on the same boat, man

[@RandomPerson-cm2wg]

I managed to beat the dancer of the boreal valley on my third try and I can’t get pass the first zone of classic Sonic. :p

[@bungiecrimes7247]

2 completely different games with different kinds of difficulty

[@barkerbarks2537]

@@RandomPerson-cm2wg I am embarrassed to say that is the same for me...

[@monkeyman3537]

Hawkwood's shield also, ya know, just straight up tells you he is a deserter. You don't even have to look at his name or armor. Item Description of Hawkwood's Shield: "Shield that belonged to Hawkwood, a deserter from the Undead Legion. The unique swordsmanship of the Watchers does not normally allow for the use of a shield, and Hawkwood's very possession of it was telltale of his defeat.

[@Mordoras1379]

Andrew Ryan i also noticed that someone skiped a few item descriptions!!! but really though what research are you doing if you don't even read about the armor set of the character you are researching?

[@monkeyman3537]

Pretty much sums this episode up. I know everyone has to start somewhere, but this is still a pretty shallow theory. He's talking about this when my shower thoughts are questioning whether or not Aldrich ate Nito. You know, light stuff.

[@Mordoras1379]

I thought that Aldrich dreamed of nito thats how he has the gravelord sword

[@monkeyman3537]

Panagiotis Doxopoulos Probably, but I like to think he ate Nito. It makes him cooler.

[@Mordoras1379]

Yeah after all it's plural so... Maybe he ate him

[@tailsfox45]

"Magical fire" in dark souls is just called "fire"

[@mossco.2727]

Matpat: If darksouls *was* a tv show its called berserk

[@idirbouchdoug1567]

Yeah , dark souls took heavy inspiration from berserk.

[@pillbox2235]

Read the manga you heathen

[@FranTheMan78]

Put your grasses on

[@skiffy8121]

@@pillbox2235 i dont read manga but i aint watching such a butchered port of spmething i know is good

[@LordAoGuang]

@@skiffy8121 manga usually comes first. Then the anime. The anime leave out a lot of things FROM THE MANGA.

[@retrofruit_1264]

Everybody: Focuses on the dude talking about lighting a fire. Me: Why is he playing league of legends with a controller

[@cyrrusdragheskjold5573]

Theory - What if VaatiVidya is actually Miyazaki?

[@aliekexie8467]

A much better theory than in this vid.

[@jayrae17]

Cyrrus Dragheskjold who it's like you read my mind

[@parkerhix1057]

VaatiVidya is that op dark souls player I always see pwning people on streams right?

[@OnytoC]

why is Gwyndolin the god of the moon ? . . . Because hes not a very good sun *kill me

[@CJ00014]

He is not a god, he is the son of a god and was treated as a woman because he did not worship the sun, but the moon...

[@rubbishh2637]

=3 i get it

[@chromepaintaddict9787]

CJ00014 He's also the original gaming Trap

[@stefanprugnaud4719]

Realy. Dude realy BAD pun ... I Love it

[@Lucien-xy2fs]

That...That.....Was amazing

[@cimsocosmic]

I love Vaatividya. I love MattPat. It's so weird seeing people get mad about other people loving a video game.

[@izawa9211]

Lets not talk about his fnaf theorys where he uses book

[@coenx1]

@@izawa9211 Oh you mean those things that are actual canon?

[@Krispheos]

*THATS ACTUALLY PATCHES THE UNBREAKABLE BUT IM NOT TRYING TO START TROUBLE*

[@danielramirez8695]

Krispheos V1 omg thank you for saying that I was getting mad at these comments bc no one was saying anything

[@Krispheos]

@@danielramirez8695 Yea thanks for the extra sarcasm man i rlly needed this notification at 6:36 in the morning

[@danielramirez8695]

Krispheos V1 I was being fr....

[@benjaminjobe8100]

Hey I just wanted to post here because it's 2:40 am and you kinda acted like a donkey toward Daniel. Hope you notifications are on :p

[@JamietheEmperor]

SINCE WHEN DOES EITHER OF THEM WIELD THE STORMRULER DKSKDKSKDKKDKSKSKSKSKSKKFMEFXJFJHIHSDVIHBFSNDRIHFRS

[@cacaplastica]

In a Taiwanese interview with Miyazaki, he defines unkindled as those who: "didn't succeed in linking the fire and becoming cinder, but failed and burned to nothing. Unkindled is born out of their remaining ashes". The Ocelotte theory is nice, but considering this..it doesn't really make sense. Considering your timeline, I doubt you could even say Ocelotte took on the soul of cinder and failed. Some other commenters are rightly pointing out that Orbeck has a connection to the Twin Princes, as he can be summoned for their fight and can die in the Archives, and is probably Unkindled. eh - Vaati

[@evancosman5039]

Juan Tenorio this will probobaly be deleted too

[@seanmurphy3430]

Okay, this is bothering me: the image you keep showing for Siegward isn't Siegward. It's Patches wearing Siegward's armor.

[@chichirocket]

Thank you! It's a minor thing, but it was bugging the crap out of me.

[@sebawilliamson4987]

THANK YOU! I stated that aloud

[@ItsSkyVRC]

\*-*/

[@jermonster4718]

Yeah it kept bugging me the whole time

[@EpicJosueJedi]

yeah siegward is a handsome fella with nice hair not that double crossing rat patches

[@wyattben123]

You didnt mention that at the end of hawk woods questline he fights you with the farron greatsword.

[@PotatoeGamerLP]

I think giving the firekeeper her eyes and summoning her, that ending is strangely comforting...

[@darknessscythe1]

That wasn't Siegward... that's Patches in his armor.

[@asdman-gb2nt]

darknessscythe1 THANK YOU!

[@oskartheguy2105]

darknessscythe1 That does look like something he WHOULD look like!

[@shotgunmasterQL]

Rocky The guy I would never expected a hyena like, vaseline covered bald sly guy to sound bombastic and silly like Siegward...

[@King._crow]

Correct

[@xstonedsnailxbox]

THANK YOU!!

[@Mxnecromancer]

11:58 that...that's not Siegward. the man in the cutscene taking off his helmet is Patches pretending to be Siegward.

[@ahzidag394]

Matt probably just made the research and recorded the audio! Maybe the guy that edits made the mistake... But hey, is just a theory...

[@MrAbenavides]

Havoc Zephyr mat pat said that he played through the game at least once. I'm assuming he put the picture of patches because he just wanted a picture, while there are no pictures of seigward

[@Walou_]

The Generic An EDITINNNG THEORY thanks for reading...

[@Hotch_ip]

Matpat has a habit of pretending to like series he actually knows nothing about. He does his research, but just enough to get away with the farce.

[@BoxWizard]

StinStin you do realize that the video is edited by someone else and not Matt right? You sent really that stupid I hope.

[@overlorde7526]

I personally prefer the idea that we’re connected to Ludleth. Ludleth is always nice to us, so to be honest it’s nice to imagine. But also, he was the only one who stayed upon being reborn, similar to us, because we are the only one of the unkindlsd we see who’s goal never wavers. Much like Ludleth, we are almost a nobody, a extra, a blank slate that managed to fill a vacuum, yet will die a colossus. Also, if I’m not mistaken The Brothers aren’t technically lords of cinder in the sense of the rest, because their twisted soul was never sacrificed to the first flame. Anyway that’s my two cents, and it’s mostly based off of headcannon

[@TheBlueReverb]

I really want those damn dark souls notes

[@wegil6095]

u made me laugh man I was just thinking about that line

[@farhanisraq5102]

Nice pfp

[@dodgetruck8255]

Open notepad, turn on captions, from the beginning, copy down every line of subtitles.

[@kerkdeller822]

I'm pretty sure Mat put Patches face in place of Siegwards. In the game Patches steals Siegwards' armour and tricks the player. You never actually are able to see Siegwards' face in the game at all.

[@T9C1PSayWha]

Kerk Deller yep, they FUCKED UP

[@PsychoTech29]

Jerry Sosa this triggered me.

[@Tylergoku100]

Kerk Deller I noticed. It bothered the hell out me.

[@cordisdie1913]

Kerk Deller you can see his face through his helmet, he looks like ken bone.

[@willcarter1052]

Probably the animator, who might not have played darksouls, google imaged it, and found one of patches.

[@jaymee5610]

My theory is that you play as a guy that has simply nothing to do... He just sits on the couch bored, when one guy came up and was like "Hey, you think you can assassinate someone for me" to as which he replied with "Yeeh" and he got up dusted the Cheeto dust off his coat and left for adventure. Please Mat I'm broke.

[@brianlogan6582]

J'bril Johnson This guy right here deserves a copy😂

[@hannahkellaway]

Yo it's 2020, y'all can read the pinned comment. We know it isn't Patches.

[@brokenprogram5346]

What it’s 2020 man I did NOT know that

[@EmoRaynbo]

THANK YOU 🙌

[@dimlydumbor934]

Doesn’t excuse it

[@MrKarateHandlesYou]

@@dimlydumbor934 it does

[@carsonrobert6063]

Mat you walking into the dark souls community is great but i mean, why not go talk with Vaati and compare notes? also praise the sun \[T]/

[@turtlebomb4418]

Or just.......anyone in the community at least

[@Nem1606]

Read the pinned comment

[@littlemoth4956]

turtle bomb You both really need to shut up.

[@Freelancer837]

Idk why Dark Souls fans think everything that talks about any lore/story/theories about Dark Souls needs to be discussed through Vaati and no one else.

[@eliasgalindo5578]

@@Freelancer837 exactly. But I'm not hating on Vaati because he helped me understand some of the lore

[@kylekashi3320]

I'm sorry I "have" to correct you, MatPat, but! the character at 11:57 is NOT Siegward himself! It's actually the character Patches in disguise, after he stole Siegwards armor.

[@NeumaghAnon]

Kylekashi MatPat's favorite character huh

[@blados360]

Kylekashi You can get Siegwards armor back

[@chinkywinky7266]

Kylekashi

[@K1LL3Rm0nkay]

Blados360 im sure he knows that. but that is patches

[@Wunglebergjunior]

Kylekashi it's sad he did all this research and still messed that up.

[@petervasz3739]

Lol you don't realize the community you just walked into.

[@nickkeller9143]

For real tho

[@apolloniuspergus9295]

Git gud

[@negativitronprime]

Oh man i had to go to the comments after that one😂

[@Error0101]

@submalevolent grace It's a closely knit fanbase

[@PhoenixDemon94]

MatPat walked up to the community, shirtless and with open arms... only to get punched into oblivion by a giant mushroom man

[@jetset3199]

That wasn't siegward, that was patches in seigwards armour

[@PotatoeGamerLP]

Lol 😂

[@mattischastan7967]

6:24 When you now know that it's not your character on Dark Soul 1 jacket.... but Artorias himself.... Cannot be unseen....

[@boulderblockOD]

The picture of siegward that he used is a picture of patches!

[@weirdlyfroggy]

he also used the cutscene of patches after he stole siegward's armor and then takes off his helmet and waves

[@Vattsu]

Siegward your favorite character? Good job not even realising that's not him

[@i3670]

Hey, you're not a cleric are you? There are some trinkets that I'll share with you in that hole. Friend.

[@scrub-lord]

And Patches has fooled yet another one, just more loot to add to the pit I suppose.

[@bugraaltuntas9047]

I want to give him a high five because of that... with a chair.

[@oranweaver3033]

+VC12x I don't know how people still don't know this, but MatPat doesn't edit his videos. It was most likely an editor's mistake, especially since they used Artorias from the DS1 box art as a stand-in for the main character.

[@bng4516]

Can we have metal gear theory's? Like there's so much things happening and theory potential

[@lilflax0396]

6:52 Aldrich's design is a bit misleading. The editing here makes it look like Gwyndolyn is Aldrich when it's actually the sludge monster that he's stuck in.

[@FormantVEVO]

>Siegward of Caterina *YOU JUST GOT PATCH'D*

[@joshzeller808]

“My favorite character”

[@fishteo4297]

I hate these unbreakable patches

[@Blasted2Oblivion]

Squidward of the cafeteria?

[@scaredandconfused2743]

Patches helped you you Dark souls 3?

[@Keroseyn]

Lol

[@christopher6632]

I'm curious to what VaatiVidya wrote now.

[@parrymegundyr]

VaatiVidya would hate this video.

[@bagusariiq]

@@honeycrisp3084 now i know

[@libertyprime7448]

Makes you wonder, why matpat don't just collap with the famous people of the specific niches. Here with Vaati and for the for honor 1v1v1 fight with stallagrim. Would've eased the nerds and the normies wouldn't've cared either way.

[@Alexander59059]

Above you

[@captainbongwater7790]

Vaati says "yikes."

[@peepock7796]

I feel the need to point out that the age of fire continuing is against the will of the gods, it was supposed to move onto the age of dark but Gwynn worried about the fire dwindling and sought to rekindle it, thus committing the first sin.

[@HereticalCustodian]

I feel like I should say this so.... the reason hawkwood deserted the abyss watcher(BTW my favourite boss) was because they laughed at him for using a shield instead of fighting with the more fast paced and crazy fighting style they adapted after drinking the great wolfs blood

[@malander9124]

cough cough* The picture you used for siegward isn't siegward. it's Patches in siegwards armor.

[@josephpersaud9]

Sammy G glad im not the only one who noticed

[@theabyssobserver7025]

Sammy G finally someone noticed

[@shujinkydink]

yeah...roasted

[@phannyphanntom1733]

siegward has a mustache plus that's the cut scene where patches betrays you 11:57

[@SugarWolf211]

bro matt is a dark souls poser. anyone who has ACTUALLY played the game would know

[@JamuThatsWho]

Interesting theory, except there's one NPC you've forgotten about. One that could be seen as opposed to Lothric and Lorian. A Scholar, not unlike the ones who tutored the young Prince, who was perhaps sent to make amends for the mistakes of his peers by helping you subdue the final Lord; Orbeck of Vinheim. All of Lothric's family are steeped in Sorcery; Oceiros is attempting to follow in Seath's footsteps, the Grand Archives are geographically located atop the old Duke's Archives and Lothric himself uses a unique form of Faith-based Crystal magic. He shares a physical resemblance to Priscilla, Seath's crossbreed daughter with Gwynevere from the first game, who also represents a melding of Faith and Sorcery. What you first meet Orbeck, he has set up a makeshift study in the swamp, and immediately after finding him, you encounter the Crystal Sage boss, an enemy later found in the Grand Archives. The Crystal Sage seems pretty out of place in the swamp, unless it was attempting to track down and stop Orbeck at the behest of the other Scholars. When you meet Orbeck at Firelink Shrine, he says; "No matter the victim's stature, every killing has a consequence..." He specifically mentions that the victim's status doesn't matter, whether it's a commoner or even a member of the Royal Family. He also confesses to being more of an Assassin than a Sorcerer. His armour, the Clandestine Coat, states; "These were covert agents who excelled at manipulating sound", maybe hinting that Orbeck's aural Sorcery and training as an Assassin makes him a prime candidate to kill the largely handicapped Royal Family of Lothric; Oceiros is blind, Lorian is lame and Lothric is frail, and all of them have their eyes obscured in some way, meaning they would most likely rely on sound, something Orbeck can use to his advantage. It's also interesting that the only fight you can summon him for is Lothric and Lorian. Further, Yuria of Londor, who wants the Fire to fade, tells you to kill Orbeck, perhaps because it was Orbeck's task to subdue the Prince, just like it was Anri, Siegward and Hawkwood's task to topple their respective Lords. She goads you by telling you he threatens your position as Lord of Hollows. If you trust Yuria and kill Orbeck, that's perhaps one less person to persuade you to link the Fire, allowing Yuria's, and by extension the Lords of Cinder's, plans to come to fruition instead.

[@bambumpret]

JamuThatsWho the crystal sage you found at farron keep wasnt there to kill orbeck it simply there because one of the crystal sage is siding with farron undead legion (you found the other one in grand archives) its stated in the coal you found in farron keep (forgot the name of the coal). also orbeck is too minor for a character to influence lothric.he was a sorcerer but not a scholar (it is stated in some item that the one who influence lothric is a scholar from grand archives) orbeck said this himself

[@JamuThatsWho]

I remember seeing something about the Sage teaching Sorcery to the Farron Legion, but it's not the Farron Coal description, it's the Soul of the Crystal Sage, which says he allied with Farron. Also, that doesn't necessarily mean he wasn't also there to stop Orbeck as a secondary mission. Perhaps he even taught Sorcery to the Farron Legion to help stop the Ashen One and Orbeck? Since none of them want the Fire to be kindled. He isn't an Archive Scholar, but perhaps he was sent by Vinheim, since maybe the end of the Age of Fire means the end of the ability to study Sorcery.

[@eyedeebee_4394]

JamuThatsWho I was going to read this but then I clicked "read more"

[@JamuThatsWho]

I don't blame you honestly.

[@thecorniestlemur7969]

JamuThatsWho Okay, but why would he suddenly decide "Yep, I want to kill him and link the fire now?

[@bucket9144]

That opening segment was funny. Good job to whichever editor worked on this episode.

[@nathanchristman6660]

On the subject of hawkwood the deserter i have something to add to the theory. Remember in that boss battle how the abyss watchers will attack each other (usually only one "friendly" abyss watcher that aggros the main body or the other abyss watcher. ) i think that may be hawkwood the deserter. While else would the abyss watchers attack each other and with him being unkindled he can come back from the dead.

[@KaneTBane]

Showing a picture of Patches when talking about Siegward...damn matt you fucked up

[@diaspcd]

the video was cool and gave me some tidbits I didn't know about but yeah...the picture fuckup with Patches being rubbed on my face over and over and over again really put me off this episode.

[@FilmAcolyteReturns]

Especially when you can clip the camera through Onion Bro's helmat.

[@thespycrab8305]

I could not stop screaming in my head.

[@aina.iv6]

Its not patches either

[@KaneTBane]

Of course it's Patches what are you talking about? The picture used in this vid is from the cutscene when Patches traps you in the Catheral of the Deep. Qick google search will prove it to you

[@kristerslogins1374]

my theory: youre actauly drunk at a party next to a fireplace and you fell asleep. boom its just a dream

[@christophernorth1400]

Krixx L 'Tis but a hunters dream all along...

[@ladyjoker6897]

Well in the promotional material in the game the Ashes One appears to be wearing the Knight Set and is Male and wielding the Long Sword and Knight Shield When you create your character the default preset is commoner and the default class is Knight instead of Warrior unlike the previous 2 games. Although I think the default class is Knight for the other 2 games. It's how I see it.

[@killerkrab7709]

More pls this is one of my favourite theories as a suggestion I would love to learn about the mystery of who solaire is and what his tragic tale is, I know this video is extraordinarily old but Mat Pat if you see this I must know. Link my knowledge Mat Pat, for the lords of cinder... for the game theory

[@themaddhatter8157]

The main character is obviously Bill from accounting.

[@codyh4486]

No it's Jake. From Statefarm.

[@jzargo4866]

The Madd Hatter: no it's flo from gico

[@cinnamonswerl7456]

No it's the Gieco lizard

[@judem1807]

its bill from state farm

[@brazen_categories9755]

Cody H damnit you beat me to it

[@betterwithage3864]

Who would win The entire dark souls plot line Or Sum wood

[@Mitchtits]

@Kyle Fratini wood, burning, kindling, lighting the fire

[@willdeschane6206]

Wood

[@willdeschane6206]

Wood

[@willdeschane6206]

Wood

[@dragonslayerornstein2361]

Wood

[@LordEmperorBoss]

You should do more theories on this series. Just any part of it. Whether or not the Theory holds water, I think it’ll be entertaining. Or...maybe you could give Bloodborne a try. It’s a theorist wonderland in From Software games.

[@professorsquiggles924]

you can fight hawkwood when you do his hole quest he is a abyss whatcher

[@DVDMurder]

Hey, MatPat. That picture you have of Seigward is actually Patches, reoccurring dillweed and merchant, wearing Seigwards armor.

[@thereare2genders155]

Dont bother, he's deleting all the comments pointing stuff like this out. Even Vaati himself. imgur.com/a/9qLGV

[@juanb201]

There are 2 Genders wow seriously he is going that petty

[@Paladin_Ryan]

Wait did he actually delete Vaati's comment?

[@Bricktor]

Blame their editors, Matpat would've known better.

[@niallmul97]

"Siegward is my favourite character" >Shows a picture of Patches

[@videogeek33]

*Gif of Jim looking into the camera from The Office*

[@sMAXtie]

Did he even play the game?!

[@videogeek33]

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[@lindelanintshingila207]

sMAXtie lol. probably not

[@justrightgaming3333]

He's not the one that edits the videos so it's possible the editor doesn't know the difference between the two; I think matpat only does the voice-overs

[@WHITENITEHERO]

14:11 this was an editing mistake, you said siegward is tied to yhorm but you have him above aldrich?

[@imnullandvoid1224]

2:06 playing LoL with an xbox controller .... interesting technique XD

[@frelancer8640]

BoxBox did it with a Ps4 controller so its possible

[@a.m.6138]

Ha, you haven's seen chile's news channels.

[@uberdiabarb]

must be a yassuo main

[@ismaelnehme379]

Lol try using a mouse and keyboard

[@PeachyBunz]

This a god tier comment

[@zhuang4804]

After a scanthrough of the lore of the dark souls universe (Vaati videos), I have concluded that the identity of the ashen one does not matter. In fact I would argue that the identity of the ashen one is deliberately left anonymous by Fromsoft to enhance the immersive atmosphere of Dark Souls. Take into account the description of the starting classes you choose at the start of dark souls 3. The Knight reads: "An obscure knight of poor renown who collapsed roaming the land. Sturdy, owing to high vitality and stout armor." - Source: Fextralife wiki (since I didn't pay attention to the class descriptions when I chose my class and instead looked for best armour). Aside from this all other information that directly links with the player character is in the descriptions of the starting gifts, and they are even more vague than the misc. items you discover throughout the game (Worker's trousers has more lore than these). Hell, even the NPCs of the souls games belittles the player character, take into account Eygon of Carim. When you first meet him he is not even remotely courteous to you, instead saying things like: "All you faceless Undead, behaving as if you deserve respect." By giving us little lore about our own characters and giving so many hints and references to the bosses we slay and the npcs we meet increases the opressive atmosphere of the game and raises the presence of the bosses. That is unlike games such as WoW, your character is no hero, and no chosen one. Rather than being told you are great you start as the bottom feeders of the barrel that is the souls universe, and you claw your way up and when you finally beat the challenges the game throws at you, it just feels that much sweeter. -Note to the people you clicked read more: Oh you poor souls, don't read it, it doesn't make that much sense. I'm gonna re-write it when I feel like it. Are you cold? Oh, good hunter. And Patches isn't OnionBro, what is this blasphemy? Do you even praise the sun?

[@Nagonif]

MultiGunner Ng I agree with this it makes much more sense to leave it as being unknown as if the character is whoever the devs want it to be

[@aa391212]

you have obviously got this all wrong especially this section "By giving us little lore about our own characters and giving so many hints and references to the bosses we slay and the npcs we meet increases the oppressive atmosphere of the game and raises the presence of the bosses. That is unlike games such as WoW, your character is no hero, and no chosen one. Rather than being told you are great you start as the bottom feeders of the barrel that is the souls universe, and you claw your way up and when you finally beat the challenges the game throws at you, it just feels that much sweeter." it us sounds like rambling, of course the main character(s) has a level of importance in the game because if not, you have to ask yourself, why did Oscar pick you? you meant something to the world of lordran in order for him to select you to carry the torch.

[@zhuang4804]

psst, the point is that it makes no sense

[@eliasgalindo5578]

@@aa391212 Technically,Oscar didn't choose you. He just picked whoever was left in the Asylum.

[@malym9494]

You should say don't read at the start

[@shiebert1]

Excuse me sir, The face you keep using for Seigward of Catarina is actually the face of Patches. Patches appears in previous Dark Souls game as 'the character that always tricks you' and he also appears in other Miyazaki games. Just making sure you are aware.

[@MeMoTie]

that's definitely his editor's mistake not him

[@cameronguyote4240]

Josh Ringling I noticed that too, dude. Minor mistake in my opinion. It was the closed you could get to a face for him.

[@CoralPallet]

Thanks for the awareness, but I think thats the point. In dark souls 3 Patches tricks you into thinking he is Seigward, same as the editor here. (Or maybe Patches made a fool of the editor, that would be sooo fiting).

[@albertstinchcomb6493]

Sooo about that video on the daughter of crystal kriem???

[@LithiumBC]

Kriemheld*

[@lootizin8068]

Well he did poke a hornets nest here. We already have vaati to cover basically all of the lore and mat's theory just points out the obvious for hardcore dark souls Fans. I guess this theory is good for new people to actually try the game it makes it interesting if you have no idea of the game yet. But I was just like meh I know all this. And then there are mistakes he made like patches being shown as siegmeyer.

[@owyemen9367]

Still waiting

[@thehollowedone5459]

@@lootizin8068 It's Siegward, my dear. :/

[@himanshuwilhelm5534]

5:33 They also move like they've go rigor-mortis. **coughs up salty water**

[@MegaZapptv]

My theory is that once I get this game, I can play it and come up with my own theory.

[@crockpotstadium7887]

LOL

[@millios3592]

Megazap22 good attempt

[@gbot7438]

Remember to roll

[@Cpg443]

CrockpotStadium w

[@Cpg443]

You CrockpotStadium a

[@Sebastian-wv6uw]

Not Important but that wasn't a picture of siegward that was patches

[@CLopez_CL]

Sebastian Pott that was patches

[@catiex8826]

hmmmmmm...

[@NobuTea]

This bothered me so much T.T

[@SoulShrowden]

Gives me conniptions.

[@CLopez_CL]

Someone call vaati

[@garrettgriffin3877]

Confusing as it may be, the lore for dark souls so cool.

[@hugow3266]

Also when you complete few Side quest and collect the Shining dragon Stone torso (path of the dragon posing at the end of the Arch dragon peak) and talk to andre he Will give you Sword Grass thingy and once you go back to the abyss watchers sanctuary you Will find hawkwood claiming to be true dragon he Will fight you WITH the abyss watchers greatsword Performing the same attack patern as if you were wielding the weapon. Once again proving he was an abyss watcher

[@Shade400]

I wonder how many people will point out that you showed patches not sig.

[@tformerdude6788]

Too many to count. . .

[@AJ-lw9kp]

I found that when he mentioned that all three unkindled have bosses related to them, he swapped Yhorm and Aldritch.

[@liamjobark53]

i would if i didnt see this comment

[@jacobpatton1737]

a lot

[@Spookiec]

Sieg* you filthy Zelda casual

[@enclavesympathiser8388]

So why exactly did you use a picture of patches for siegward?

[@TheSleepJunkie]

Enclave Sympathiser because he doesn't know what he's talking about, hence why he hasn't done anything with it before. ...but Austin's video was a hit, so gotta tailcoat his success.

[@MegaMrSpaz]

@TheSleepJunkie, sorry dude but could you do better?

[@GRaudya]

I doubt he can.. but everything MatPat told us in this video already been told by another souls lore hunter like Vaatividya, DaveControl, The Ashen Holow, and others and theirs are more deeper than this.. I'm coming here hoping there're something I miss from watching them, but nope.. it all still the same..

[@tophatstudios9069]

the face used in this video for siegward is actual patches he steals his armor

[@Xynoune7242]

14:10 Who saw the editing mistake?

[@Doss3332]

Me

[@clancy9774]

I did

[@justsomechairwithoutamusta8275]

Oh god I didn't notice that well I did but I didn't think it was a mistake I thought he did it on purpose

[@ds2isntbad]

@@Doss3332 me

[@wagtatou]

14:10 GOD DAMN IT EDITOR, YOU HAD ONE JOB!

[@adamstaubin8708]

Potatou-san hahahahahah funny 😂😂😂

[@fredwilson1448]

what?

[@arafathossainadib7731]

i dont get it too

[@declang2684]

The lords of cinder are not correlated to the correct NPCs.

[@olivierhutter5074]

lol

[@aresgodofgaming2309]

I like how you parallels from hawkwoods armor and name, but just playing the game will tell you for certain he was an abyss watcher and you fight him at the abyss watcher bonfire

[@willdeschane6206]

Me: Why can’t I summon Anri for Aldrich Anri: X_X

[@yolo-senpal4520]

I love the link to his singing, it’s definitely better than I can do.

[@MrSkyerGaming]

The Main character of Dark Souls 3 is me, because I am also dead inside.

[@thegreatwolf4526]

MrSkyerGaming XD SAME BRO SAME!!!

[@jeffjeff1717]

F

[@loaf7061]

The main character is actualy Dovakin from Skyrim.

[@joseph1142]

Lofarian S. Illuminati confirmed

[@shebehere2452]

Lofarian S. lol

[@doctorc8852]

Lofarian S. no its the link from majors mask

[@PropaneAndAccessories]

Lofarian S. Half life 3 confirmed.

[@itsmymiddlelane7046]

I was about to say that

[@restaurantworried8031]

It's funny that you don't mention the abyss once

[@littlemoth4956]

The Abyss is irrelevant in Ds3.

[@hughmann9568]

@@littlemoth4956 excuse me? The abyss is an ever present threat. There are plenty of item descriptions mentioning it. One of the lord's of cinder are the ABYSS WATCHERS. So no it isn't as prevalent as DS1/2 but to say it isn't relevant just isn't true.

[@Rozwarty]

@@littlemoth4956 It doesn't play as significant a role as DS1 and DS2, but it is there. The Abyss Watchers are corrupted by the abyss (which is why they're fighting eachother),you fight Gravelord Wolnir in an Abyss-like place and you can buy Abysswalker Artorias' armour from the shrine Handmaiden in the untended graves, which are a version of Firelink Shrine in the age of dark.

[@overlorde7526]

@@Rozwarty I agree, I didn’t play ds2 but I know manus’s abyss most likely has a big role in key events in dranglaic, and ds1 had a LOT of stuff around the abyss. In ds3 honestly it’s not more important then Quelana is in ds3. They’re both mentioned, but you don’t really see them (kind of, sort of)

[@toadztongmainchannel1039]

I thought Hawkwood being a "deserter" was just misleading wording on part of From Software. They use misleading wording or loose translation on purpose to throw us off sometimes. I think this because, from my understanding; Hawkwood (rather than desertion) was exiled from the Abyss Watchers because he preferred to use a shield in combat, which is quite different and rather frowned upon by the Abyss Watchers. His sword may also have something to do with this, but I don't quite understand why it would because the bastard sword he uses is still a greatsword. I actually don't know why he uses the bastard sword seeing as it is inferior to the Abyss Watcher Greatsword. Maybe is has to with the weapon art and the parrying dagger when wielding with both hands. Or maybe he cast his sword on the throne with the others as a sign of respect, shame, resignation, etc... I really don't know. I'm just kinda speculating. let me know what you think.

[@Havoc_279]

If you follow his quest line he actually uses the Abyss Watchers GS. The way I see it he is a deserter because he was afraid, not just of linking the fire but being part of the legion in general. And I dont blame him, their lifestyle wasn't a dream. Their fighting style was reckless and didn't suit Hawkwood's expectations I guess

[@joshiifive]

Obviously its Samurai Jack

[@zeno8094]

Josua Thurnheer no dude its Genji

[@FandomEnforcer]

Josua Thurnheer I thought he can't die anyway.

[@FandomEnforcer]

Corrupted Xeno Does that mean we might see Mercy resurrecting him?

[@capnz15]

he finally learned to jump good

[@coloneljihad7874]

My theory is that your character DS3 is your character from DS2. If you look at the ending of scholar of the first sin, your character, an undead, decides to leave the kiln behind (based on the new ending added by SOTFS edition) and chooses instead to walk away seeking a more permanent solution to the undead curse, essentailly becoming the Dark lord (the one who brings about the age of Dark, which is meant to natrually follow the age of fire, before gwyn created the cycle of having to relight the fire, which basically broke the balance of nature by keeping the age of fire going and creating a loop in which no progress could be made as everything was in a state of constant and unnatural creation and destruction). Whats the third ending of Dark souls 3 that also involves the undead? (not unkindled, difference is very important for those who havent played the game). Wresting the power of the flame from the kiln and taking it unto yourself, becoming the Dark lord of the Sable church of Londor. But if we go back to what the video says, unkindled are those who failed to link the fire and essentially burnt away. Your character in Dark souls 2 goes on a long journey to try and find answers. He/she obtains three crowns and in the process gains the knowledge to show them that linking the fire is not the correct choice as it just keeps repeating the cycle. But, if you dont link the fire, some other undead who was resurrected likely would, as they would have no knowledge of the damage they are causing, thus restarting the cycle and burning away your character. But the unkindled are those undead brought back, with all their previous knowledge intact. SOOOO if your character from DS2 is brought back, he/she would know that linking the fire is bad, and with the flame as weak as it is, then they would know to accept the dark sign they were free of by being reborn as an unkindled back into themselves, making them a full fledged hollow again, and this time being able to take in the power of the first flame as they are now a being of both fire and dark (two sides of the same coin, yin and yang basically), and can thus let the age of Dark come about as there is LITERALLY NO FLAME FOR ANY OTHER UNKINDLED TO RELIGHT. The only way to do it would be to maybe kill your character and make a new kiln out of their corpse using a coiled sword. But considering how God tier strong your character would be by then, having slain all the Great Souls of Drangleic and then being reborn to slay the Lords of Cinder, along with having an army of undead, including anri, at your service and two of the three sisters of the Sable church as well? Nah, I dont think anyone, gwyn included could, espescially considering you basically killed gwyn by beating the Souls of Cinder boss (his last form is Gwyn mode). So the age of fire dies, and you go off with your wife anri (who you "marry" to get this ending), forming a new kingdom of Londor and ushering in the age of Dark. There, rabbit hole thoroughly jumped down.

[@1Nostrand1]

ColonelJihad I hope you're one of the winners, one of the more comprehensive theories I've seen.

[@TheAceswilde]

So... You're saying it's yah manz?

[@theboommaster1447]

ColonelJihad this, by far, is one of the best theories I've ever seen about Dark Souls 3. Bravo! 👏👏👏👏👏

[@jonathangeter6614]

It's a solid theory with a good foundation and a lot of thought put into it, but one thing that you may have overlooked is that DS2 is not a canon part of the same timberline as DS1 or DS3. Most people who played the first game would wonder why your character from the first game isn't in this one since they were able to link the flame, but they are in the game. The character you play as in the first game, if you choose to link the fire becomes part of the final boss of the third game(The soul of cinder), guarding the dying flame. Almost nothing from DS2 is in the third one, the main thing from the second game I could find is Gilligan's body in the Profaned Capital surrounded by gold and silver. I'd love to be proven wrong, and I do hope your theory is right if I am.

[@collinbradford8866]

the only missing link for the theory is whether you succeeded or not in linking the flame in dark souls 2

[@damiencouch1204]

I thought it was clear that Hawkwood was a Abyss Watchers. He wields the sword when you kill him

[@Ruhrich92]

Aldritch-Anri/Horace Yhorm-Seigward AbyssWatchers-Hawkwood What about Ludleth of Courland? Lothric Princes were not revived by the bell-they never linked the flame to begin with. So no ash would rise against them. Ludleth however, HAS linked the flame, and also has no connected unkindled. Is there something missing? Where is Courland anyway? I dont recall hearing of that place in any of the 3 games.

[@jackrubino1916]

Talking about siegward and showing patches makes me die a bit inside

[@jackrubino1916]

Also it's a wide known fact that Hawkwood was part of the undead legion, he says it himself. Where's the theory in that? what's the breaking news?

[@kianellis7440]

Jack Rubino same

[@andrju3916]

Jack Rubino A lot of the things in this episode were pretty easy to know through just playing the gamr

[@TheAnimeProducations]

i feel u bro :}

[@Jaydaniellewis]

Jack Rubino same

[@daytoncasper2400]

Why does he keep useing patches instead of seigward as the pic for seigward

[@ThelncomeTaxes]

it was bothering me too

[@destoryerchris]

Warlord Of Fnv i thought i was going crazy but he did make a mistake

[@ZenoMBleu]

Warlord Of Fnv that's a scene where he disguises himself as Siegward to fool the player. I think he didn't find the right picture for Siegward without his helmet, since it's only possible to see his face in-game by modding the game

[@ZenoMBleu]

Warlord Of Fnv We can also say he used the wrong picture for Aldrich, since he's focusing on the part of the body that belonged to Gwyndolin

[@joshtrue6521]

Warlord Of Fnv because matpat apparently didn't play through the game himself to know that patches stole his armor

[@battlepans1927]

Am I the only person who casually thought hawkwood was part of the abyss watchers?

[@benjaminjobe8100]

I think he was wanting to know if anyone made that connection themselves on the first play through. Really it didn't seem like a secret to me either... at all... unlike literally 90% of the rest of the lore that I'd have probably never known without vaati

[@matabishippuden6965]

It literally says so in the description of his shield so I don't know why matpat is going full blown inception on the deserter part of his name lol

[@jacoblister3244]

Yea, same, if you follow his questline he shows up in the abyss watchers boss room wielding their weapon.... It's pretty obvious

[@lefteron6804]

I mean he is wearing their armor and his shield's description pretty much spells it out.

[@legomanwhohateskpop1532]

The way I figured it out was by looking at his outfit.

[@Grey-The-Skeleton]

10:48 "Siegward of Catarina" **Shows Patches**

[@eclipticdemon8429]

Damn it Marat. That's not siegward, that's patches. C'mon man.

[@ruudklepper]

Sebastian Blackheart Damn it Sebastian. That's not Marat, that's MatPat. C'mon man.

[@sovietsock]

why did he put patches for seigward?

[@TamTroll]

No real face reveal for Seigward probably. He's wearing the Catarina armor in the shot, so it's an easy enough mistake to make.

[@Driur]

I dunno but it made me cringe a little

[@CountSpartula]

TamTroll We do actually have a model for Seigwards face.

[@emmettkogan8006]

He could have just put his camera in an optimal way to see through his helmet but Matpat be savage

[@massdefection]

In his defense I don't think they ever show Siegwards face in the game, so at least using Patches gave him a face to work with. Though obviously the smart choice would be to just use his onion helm for recognition.

[@Seinari]

Currently I'm playing DS2, I just killed the Giant Lord...and I still have no idea what's the reason for doing all of this

[@superextremehappy]

Dark souls 2 is an oddball, 1 and 3 very clearly line out why you're in Lordran/Lothric (link/snuff out the flame), but in 2 you're on a totally different quest (figure out how to get rid of your undead curse) and basically every person who has an idea of the greater plot tells you "there's no reason to be here homie, you're not gonna solve your problem here." There's no motivation for the player character to do anything...

[@Seinari]

@@superextremehappy thanks, even after beating it I really had no clue of what happened.

[@firecannon20]

i still cant get over how he put a picture of patches as the picture for seigward

[@lefteron6804]

It makes me question if he even played his quest really.

[@xenaioaks5363]

He's not the one editing 🤦🏽‍♀️

[@jasperb2493]

Sasha Blackbird it happens like 3 times and you even see a part of the cutscene where he betrays you. Him not editing it shows that he didn’t do his research correctly and instead just did one play through probably not even finding siegward

[@dbgvhtcfrxd]

Lefteris Panagopoulos in the cathedral he acts like seigward and then betrays you so it kinda makes sense He also dosent edit his videos so Yeah

[@YodelyDodely]

Am I the only one upset with the Patches face as Siegward?

[@umbertozucchino8640]

Disgruntled Sloth no you are not

[@shadowedsaint]

I came down to the comments to say the same thing, and was scrolling through to see if I was alone.

[@rickfaesen3299]

Timothy Morgan me too

[@scarfaceone-phoenix3474]

Disgruntled Sloth Nope, I am quite triggered right now

[@rateros9006]

Disgruntled Sloth Its patches after he stole siegs armot

[@dukeofanchor]

Why use an image of Patches instead of Siegward?

[@iphonz1137]

Captain MacMillan thank you so much

[@TeamKhandiKhane]

this bothered me so much every time it was on screen.

[@bananaspritzer9215]

I felt the exact same way

[@dukeofanchor]

Good to know I wasn't the only one.

[@darcyscout]

Captain MacMillan siegward actually looks that way you can put your camera in his helmet in game I know it confused me too at first

[@megafrost9960]

This game franchise looks SOOOOOO INTERESTING! Medieval era is always extremely interesting to me, so this fantasy game lore has definitely peeked my interest! On to the next theory!

[@syedali-rs8cj]

Wait so these heroes what are they some kind of "Suicide squad" ?

[@CoasterIdiot802]

No they're zombies made out of ash, someone that tried linking the flame but failed

[@Kwatcher100]

Roll credits.

[@cjkelly7536]

* smacks lips *

[@owyemen9367]

@@CoasterIdiot802 so resuicide squad

[@CoasterIdiot802]

@@owyemen9367 yes