Game Theory: Who Would Win -- Samurai, Knight, or Viking? (For Honor)

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[@NoxMortem]

The Historical Accuracy dropped faster than the French Nobility at the Battle of Agincourt...

[@Marlfox70]

DAYUM burn

[@mohamadameen94]

Ahhh Agincourt...

[@NoxMortem]

Yeah, treating them like Pork Hedgehog was wrong.... Like this VIDEO!!!

[@morsletum5348]

But most of them survived and got killed after the battle.

[@karstencowley6303]

NoxMortem dam son

[@wargle2515]

>Extensive research >Wearing Greaves on your arms Pick one

[@kevinoneal9779]

I laughed for a solid minute at this!

[@Silver19897]

Wargle I didn't even notice omg that's great

[@idkm6776]

Wargle research

[@idkm6776]

204 likes , 0dislikes, 4 reply. S Logic

[@dionaeamuscipula6649]

I don't get it

[@realdragon]

"Viking didn't wear armour" I think chainmail is some type of armour

[@siphesihledlamini2905]

Thank you and he allowed the knights to stay even though they both used chainmail

[@jonajo9757]

In general, they had a fine assortment of armors.

[@tylerdeath3759]

Typicly gamberson aka bio degradable armour(leather being most commen do to if it was properly layered you can be shot with a long bow and not even be scratched) and what ever armour they took from rhe slain...aka chain mail, plate mail and steel weapons...compared to a samurai whos swords were never steel only iron do to poor forging techniques...and whos bows would never be able to even hurt a viking let alone scratch him.

[@jonajo9757]

@@tylerdeath3759 Yeah, this is definitely filled with misinformation. Firstly, yes, japanese swords are steel. They aren't on par with the quality of late european spring steel, but it's still fine quality steel that could be used to make adequate weaponry or armour if you were able to afford it. Plus let's not forget that Europeans of the early middle ages practiced folding steel and pattern welding. Two, that last statement depends as the draw weights of war yumi varied, and we basically don't know the actual draw weight of an 11th century Yumi. Plus the viking period had warbows which were mostly for both use for war and hunting. So you'd get bows around the 90lbs range.

[@jonajo9757]

@@tylerdeath3759 Oh, also you're forgetting type of armour worn, the distance, and other factors. For example, a foot archer is typically used at long distance whereas mounted are a lot more closer, and able to pack a bigger punch at closer distance.

[@californiaball2599]

Matpat after video: I think I did... okay. The history section of the internet: *Cowabunga it is.*

[@thefrozenwarrior2159]

Accurate.

[@goodknightunited5918]

Just a warning to anybody who watches this and isn't very familiar with Medieval military history: this video is VERY inaccurate.

[@RockerMarcee96]

up you go.

[@JBergmansson]

It's a shame that MatPat seems to value entertainment and storytelling far above the actual truth these days...

[@unlistedlife4627]

true

[@chickenxdcurry6895]

Good Knight United So who would win in your opinion?

[@konradplatt3833]

for someone who studies history mostly every sentence is a pain...

[@goliathe7654]

"he's got a bow!" "you idiot, we've all got bows!"

[@coolguydoesminecraft]

Hauberk, that is what knights used, good against swords, bad against arrows.

[@Mr-R.R.]

Spartan0941 it doesn't matter if a samurai has a bow or not. A samurai's bow wouldn't have the power to let an arrow penetrate the armor easily at all. Also, knights didn't really carry bows in battle but either way a Knight would have had the most probable chance of winning

[@Mr-R.R.]

Ilsu what is bad against arrows?

[@Lowco5]

Ilsu chainmail is good armor and even then they would wear a padded gambeso/aketon underneath that, wich if properly thickened, could even stop a longbow arrow, not to mention a 60/70lbs yumi bow

[@arx3516]

But in continental Europe there were divisions of specialized mercenary crossbowmen. Knights often profited from the covering fire of large crossbowmen divisions.

[@bullbegger2281]

so painful to watch. Sad part is people will watch this and believe all the things this video got wrong.

[@fuzi5303]

I did when I first saw it and then through this discovered so much about arms and armour throughout history

[@roujan3063]

Indeed.

[@ydi7438]

@Kalina Ann sad thing is no one will call him out for his false information and pseudoscience based videos.

[@ydi7438]

@Kalina Ann 😂 well said

[@b1oodfistgamer43]

@@ydi7438If you scroll through the comments you can clearly see literally everybody calling him out on it and many have made videos debunking this video.

[@icezem4797]

"The vikings are CLEARLY outmatched" That did NOT age well

[@coolslender9685]

You got me

[@godemperorofmankind3.091]

considering it happened a thousand years ago, its more like it cant age well. its simply incorrect

[@luistrejo1970]

The Vikings aren't outmatched, how else did they become personal bodyguards of the Byzantium Empires Emperor? Magic mushrooms can give one great insight into the weakness of the enemies strength and let me say, The Vikings were masters of the Merry ways lol xD

[@frostbitefade424]

@@godemperorofmankind3.091 he's taking about the campaigns in the game

[@magnustherad3291]

Yeahhhhhhh I think Vikings are beat when the win every faction war

[@screenvinylimage733]

i feel like matpat completely forgot that shields could be used to block arrows

[@flavorlessquark8614]

Arthayx L Yeah, but both the knight and samurai have horses, so basically all the samurai has to do is run around the Viking and strike him endlessly with arrow. the knight has a spear, so there you go, Viking is dead anyways

[@Grimjar]

Simple solution.... Stay in a forest. Horses and forest isn't a good mix. People take Vikings for some stupid cavemans.

[@PcGamerHero]

Shields and gambesons. Thick enough cloth armor can block arrows and most swords. Light armor - suck in fiction, awesome in real life.

[@skaudivee]

Even so, in that hypothetical, since range is a samurai's strong point, while of course not infinite, they would have plentiful arrows. And while the horse wouldn't have infinite stamina, it would have more than a person, as they're more often than not, a prey animal in the wild. Used to fleeing rather than fighting. even if they were to turtle mode perfectly and block, what I would imagine to be, around a hundred arrows... the time spent moving to block properly would be taxing. But this is all just speculation.

[@tardigrade4143]

Well That's true.

[@GameTheory]

Dear Comments, Let me hop down here and clear up something: Saying that we didn't do research is simply INCORRECT. Both Austin (from THE SCIENCE) and I did plenty of research into the "average" weaponry for each of these three types of warriors around the year 1000. That said, I openly welcome and look forward to watching your videos outlining your research debunking our work -- I'm not above admitting that we make mistakes. But I am sensitive to claims that we didn't research...we do a lot for each episode...but admittedly what we can teach ourselves in about ten days or reading and page hopping pales in comparison with people who have studied this material for years. This is actually a big reason why I often avoid history episodes -- not because I don't enjoy them, but because history as a study is so massive and oftentimes, imprecise depending on the source. Thanks for letting me explain myself. Now, if you'll excuse me...BACK TO GASTER! MatPat

[@DarkLink1996]

MATPAT AWAY!!!!!!!!!!

[@sheenaorten7441]

agreed! also you have to take into account history also depends on perspective. For example in wars, there are different perspectives on who's the 'good guys' and the 'bad guys' based on which side you choose will give you different thoughts of the enemy and of the allies. I love learning about history of different cultures and this is probably one of my fav theories yet. I commend your work mat!

[@commanderdestruction2690]

Hi Good theory.

[@do-re-mi-fabeat4449]

yo, mat these guys are just jealous hater bru XD

[@thatnhoxiu]

The Game Theorists tea

[@remkometkrullen]

As an archaeologist this video clearly demonstrates to me the importance of education and involvement of the public about history and our archaeological finds.

[@OverlordZephyros]

well game theory is just entertainment ... he doesnt have a degree on this stuff

[@kissme1518]

I prefer genetic research rather than word of historians.

[@AB-nr5je]

@@kissme1518 Aaaaand your usage of "prefer" in an issue as complex issue as this earns you the Retard Award 2023! :) Congratulations!!! YOU are RETARDED! :)

[@spilleren9173]

@@kissme1518 I mean, you gotta pick where you trust which. Genetic research is useful at times, but not when you have to find out what sort of equipment vikings had.

[@enclavesoldier8893]

“And past episodes here have shown that knowledge of cultural history can help you win games.” You don’t win much in historical games do you matpat?

[@custodianvrael6471]

Fallout tactics yeah?

[@tostbutyoutube7204]

YOU AGAIN?

[@Human_traain]

Elaborate

[@deadmen8698]

He never won any historical challenge, he thought Harold goswinson was a modern military solider

[@enclavesoldier8893]

@@Human_traain Matpat is effectively saying that knowing history helps you win historical games. In spite of this during his video his presentation and research of the history was poor, meaning he probably doesn't win historical games a lot by merit of his own reasoning that historical knowledge helps win historical games. Sorry for saying historical so much lol. Was trying to get it more in layman's terms

[@chadthundercock4982]

So kids remember. 1. Shields don't exist 2. Vikings lived in a wasteland and could not survive without raiding 3. Vikings went into battle naked 4. Samurai are the only people in the world to have used bows 5. Samurai arrows can go through machine guns and reach the sun 6. Katanas are the greatest ever and can cut tanks in half 7. Viking weaponry was put together by a drunk 4-year-old 8. Knights had swords heavier than Thor's hammer 9. Mail is basically butter 10. BERSERKERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@steveman751]

I hate that everyone thinks that large swords are heavy, the bigger greatswords are like 3kg, and can be swung almost as fast as a katana because they generate so much momentum.

[@louisethomas1033]

You are wrong on so many levels.but it's ok matpat is the one to blame ps I like him a lot but he just chose a time period were vikings practically didn't exist

[@randomstranger_3]

This made my day. And you should edit/change "guys" into "kids". That would be hilarious XD

[@Scarlet_moon.]

shield cant protect your horse from arrows,and in combat the one that stays on his horse wins regardless of weapon,true viking had cloths,mostly leather(fur) to keep them warm,but not much protection.And yea chain mail is butter when it comes to protection from longbows,in truth if you stacked paper instead of chain mail of same thickness that paper would provide better protection from arrows and i mean way better.Also if anyone thinks you can block arrows as they come then that guy is idiot,by the time warrior falls from horse and gets his balance back another arrow is already on its way.When it comes to combat,archers on horseback are superior to any other unit,why do you think Chinese built that wall?Archer on horseback are superior to even full armored templar knight,because there is no way for knight in full plate armor to ever get in melee range of archer,and reason for that is simple,archers use lighter armor which is less strain on horse which in turn lets horse be faster and can run longer.You can put all 3 of these against one mongolian archer and he would probably win.

[@Asalieri2]

we're talking 12th century here. Full plate armor came much MUCH later. Gambeson + Chain Mail is more than enough to withstand 12th century Japanese arrows.

[@ethandunn7026]

Longswords... In the 11th century??? Way wrong. The earliest ones were 13th century. They had one handed swords. 11th century knight defeated by arrows? Wrong. They wore padded armor that stopped arrows, mail that stopped everything else, and most importantly; they freaking had shields! You know, those things were specifically used for not getting hit by arrows for nearly 4,000 years? Not withstanding that their equipment was meant to stop actual warbows, with draw weights often over 100lbs, and samurai bows were very weak so that they could be used from horseback and rarely exceeded 60lbs draw weight. Samurai wearing 15th century armor in the 11th century? Nope. Vikings not wearing iron armor? They had mail hauberks, steel helmets, and even some lamellar plate! Seaxr expensive weapons? Wrong! Seax were used by even the poorest warriors, and going raiding was an upper class pastime, so they tended to be the richest of the rich, just like knights and samurai. Not so much as a mention of their swords, polearms, or padded armor? Someone failed to do their research. Still enjoyed the video though!

[@ethandunn7026]

Also, Vikings did not depend on shock and intimidation for victory. They often went against trained armies, and often won. And while he's right samurai preferred to fight from horseback while protected by their servants, they were by no means afraid to fight in a melee. In fact, they and their servants typically formed a sort of triangle, with the samurai at the front, and while the servants used pole weapons to control enemy weapons, the samurai would take them out with a spear or koto.

[@NeumaghAnon]

Ethan Dunn you sir summed up all my gripes about this half assed "theory". A cookie to you my good man!

[@fearyourweapon]

ARROWS GO RIGHT THROUGH GAMBESON LOOK UP "GAMBESON VS LONGBOW"

[@D.A.R.C.I.]

I agree completely but please for theorists sake, please correct in a matter where we have "slight(I know he was a way off)" errors and not a bumbling idiot.

[@pauliusruginis5264]

Padded armors is a lie.

[@dashl7155]

"When you start to peel back the myths and legends around these warriors and actually look at the facts around them" That one didn't age quite so well considering all the historical inaccuracies in this video.

[@randomguy2023]

Yep

[@LetsTalk-co2lz]

Man, I wonder which faction MatPat likes the most?

[@killcount4750]

Knights

[@gac7324]

Samurai

[@gun6129]

Vikings

[@dodgie]

"These warriors seem mythological but that's because mythology is all people really know" And that folks is how you DO NOT do a research

[@ridiculouslyoverpoweredsup4421]

Put it on 500 for ya. I hate unclean numbers lol.

[@jeffreygao3956]

With that logic, how can he expect anyone to take him seriously?

[@ridiculouslyoverpoweredsup4421]

Sorry but have to take that like away.

[@hobbsy7657]

what's scariest to me is the lack of comment from matpat recognising his mistake . would respect him alot more if he owned up

[@rehwr]

HobbsyYT He actually got salty about it and said he did research until he deleted the comment.

[@DrakkarCalethiel]

Robert Harden Shows how much he cares about it. He should at least fix it in the comments. The better way and probably most wanted is that he makes a update video. Or what also often got requested is that he deletes the video.

[@eduardolopes22]

Kind of lost some respect for his channel (got nothing against him personally), he does this sell out videos, and he (or his team) dosen't even do proper research. I guess Ubisofts money was better then some integrity. What a shame.

[@paradoxzee6834]

Eduardo Lopes Gee some guys in here even defent him calling guys who call him out haters. I mean really I am one of the oldest gametheory fans and I call him out when he goof up, or in this case make the whole video wrong

[@blashga27]

can someone tell me what this thread is talking about? what mistake? what deleted comment?

[@RyanElliott99]

The knight is a slow tank like fighter. Knight cartwheels towards you in full plate armor...

[@i_love_starwarshookers693]

Saw that vid to😅

[@casanovafiems1508]

Your about to be converted to Christianity.

[@picklejho69]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/p6u3qHWHo85_icU

[@gangrenousgandalf2102]

@@i_love_starwarshookers693 Loved the backflips

[@LordCaric]

I realize this video is four years old, but there's a few points I'd like to add regarding Vikings. First, take away the horse, making everyone even in that regard (if they weren't raiding, they could ride horses into combat). Wealthy Vikings used mail and swords just as often as Knights. The average Viking didn't often wear mail, but neither did the average foot solider a Knight or Samurai would be leading into combat. A Jarl and his loyalists (the same as a Knight is to a Lord) would have used mail, helmets and well-crafted swords. A Jarl paid his men well and gave them gifts. Also, a few successful raids were often enough to purchase these items. They had sturdy, solid shields and were very good at using them. Vikings used bows quite often in combat, as well as spears and javelins. The average soldier was expected to carry a bow and spear when called to war. A Viking could just as easily shoot their opponent or the horse. Good mail can stop arrows and is often worn with padding or a gambeson underneath, which is another layer of protection and better than most people believe. This video discounts the Viking as easily defeated, but I disagree. If Samurai and Knights are wealthy and able to afford better gear, then you must compare a wealthy Viking and not the average farmer going on a raid. A similarly wealthy Viking is vastly superior to what is described here. There's a reason they almost conquered England. Another quick point, Ō-yoroi was not light.

[@The360MlgNoscoper]

Samurai didn't even HAVE chainmail. They didn't have the metal for it.

[@jeffreygao3956]

@@The360MlgNoscoper The existence of Kusari-gosuko would disagree.

[@Neil-wz5do]

@@jeffreygao3956loser

[@jasondads9509]

wait wouldn't Vikings and knights have shields?

[@juicemight1259]

you're right! Knights have shields but not too sure about vikings.

[@NinjaTyler]

MuumiLimu Vikings used shields as much as knights did

[@juicemight1259]

ok. thanks!

[@lyallkins1507]

Viking's shield were pretty durable because of the wood

[@SergioAzamuth]

He got the armor part wrong too, for the Vikings at least. I'm something of a fan of those guys (don't ask why I just like 'em) and researching about them had me learn they DID in fact wear chainmail. And although they did thrive in intimidation, they were adept at warfare as much as any other "warrior race" out there.

[@buddythebeastman]

We've got some serious alternative facts going on here...

[@jenprovo9940]

Sverdhugr Kveykva hilarious, but not true

[@Drace90]

Ugh! "Alternative facts" is just a better word for intentionally misleading lies. The worst you could say abut this video is that it's honest but inaccurate. There are worlds between the two terms.

[@thehollowlingwin]

@Drace90 Dude you are trying waaay too hard to defend Matt. You can't even call the video honest cause he claims this is a historical analysis and there are MANY details that are just wrong and don't make sense.

[@JaySevyLP]

Just because its wrong doesnt mean its dishonest. If I honestly believe 1+1=3, then me saying 1+1=3 is not a lie.

[@buddythebeastman]

Jen Provo because Gods not real you freakin mormon!!!

[@alexweh]

Matpad: its unfair to compair a 15th century knight in full armor with a viking Also: 11th century knight with longsword.

[@Unknown_Meliodas]

So you’re not gonna mention at all how much stronger and heavier knights swords were? Or that they wore helmets like the samurai? Or that many had kite sheilds that covered from the torso to the knees. The whole reason a shield exists is to protect from swords and arrows. You also disregarded the shield for the Vikings.

[@fransthefox9682]

Knight swords are actually light...

[@fransthefox9682]

@@Monterey96 The majority of knight swords are pretty light.

[@Unknown_Meliodas]

@@fransthefox9682 they really weren’t. Swinging 40 inch 4 pound pieces of metal is pretty hard especially with the greatsword which weighed 10 pounds with armor. Katanas are shorter and weigh 3 pounds. Also most knights didn’t even carry Longswords they’d carry maces which usually weigh 10 ibs and are about 3 feet long which is still longer than a katana which is a huge advantage. Also the weight is also a huge advantage. Katana weren’t even used by the samurai they’d use long bows and spears which still wouldn’t be able to get through the shields of the knights or armor

[@conor6607]

@@Unknown_Meliodas Except most longswords are 3lbs on average, with a little under 3 and 3.5 being an acceptable range. Very few actual longswords are 4lbs or higher. The heaviest sword is the Zweihander, and it weighs at most 7.5lbs. Furthermore, this video is comparing the three groups as of their 11th century variations. In which knights were using arming swords which are somewhere between 2-2.5lbs. Maces don't weigh 10lbs and are usually much smaller than three feet, in fact I can't recall a mace at three feet so I would be very interested in the one where you get that number from, so send me a source/link if you can! Lastly, the main weapon of a knight, throughout their existence but especially in the 11th century, is the lance. Knights are like Samurai in that they are elite cavalry usually whom can fight on foot if needed. Maces, swords, rocks, battleaxes, warhammers, and other weapons are generally sidearms to be used once the lance is out of reach, broken, or no longer effective due to range. Now, I do agree with you that swinging around a sword of any size or make is incredibly exhausting. This is coming from someone who trains and practices with real swords frequently. However, the Japanese and Europeans really wouldn't be very different from each other strictly due to sword strength. Cheers!

[@Unknown_Meliodas]

@@conor6607 although this is true the long sword and even arming swords are leagues better than the katana. Arming swords were double edged and and still longer than the katana. Arming swords were used with shields which is an even bigger advantage.

[@NoOneLt]

This video is paid off by the rich samurai

[@Sid_Black]

Special thanks to Ubiso....samurai for sponsoring this video.

[@sdsdfdu4437]

This video is brought to you by the Weeaboo Foundation for Misplaced Japanese Youth (jk they're american but don't say it to their faces they get all creepy and angry)

[@fluffthesergal7640]

Totally. Mat is smart but got a little ignorant.

[@genocidechild9150]

Ov Wall a little?

[@fluffthesergal7640]

Over all, yeah.

[@MrArmystrong85]

Skallagrim and Shadiversity: I'm about to ruin this mans whole career

[@1990tcyta]

Metatron join the chat

[@billyng8482]

They destroy this man career with the pommels

[@wintrydolphin36]

For real

[@zankyono8467]

Burger Power they will do it rightly.

[@hammer8339]

And they did good prediction

[@northstar1727]

Matpat: and the winner is the samurai Historians: allow us to introduce ourselves

[@tostbutyoutube7204]

please dont

[@sat_gaming5025]

"And past episodes here have shown that knowledge of cultural history can help you win games". Matpat would loose every fight with his bias of samurai, they aren't faster, and knights aren't slower.

[@picklejho69]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/p6u3qHWHo85_icU Proof knights can be fast as hell

[@hatskeleton635]

This video's logic: Vikings - Clueless bandits with no tactic or combat training. Knights - Wear metal armor for no reason and shields that are useless. Samurai - Invincible dragon warriors who use swords that are more effective than cannonballs.

[@michaelbrankin9392]

Hat Skeleton! Honestly people forget that Vikings actually wore armor they weren’t running around naked and Knight steel plate armor is hardly limiting at all and they where layers or gambison and chain mail that can stop arrows plus a shield and they trained from age 7 so basically this battle is complete bs and the samurai would not win in a land slide if anything I’m thinking a knight would definitely win

[@Liamvshobos]

And other people are forgetting this is a video game channel. xd you sure you aint just salty you picked the wrong class?

[@jouburt9545]

liamvshobos why would he be salty about that? You can change at any time unless your half brain dead. Also he was trying to prove who would win with true historical facts but got it all completely wrong.

[@adogwhoapparentlyknowshowt4391]

Michael23 Brankin29 Yeah But Samurai secret weapon is Running away with his fast horse

[@lolwhosjayden217]

Hat Skeleton! I known right

[@Aero3691]

Did...did Matpat forget that SHEILDS exist?

[@livinglifeform7974]

+Black haxoros Not in the timeline they're in. Samurai would have had poor armour back then.

[@livinglifeform7974]

+CobaltBlue The katana was a good sword, it's just not the god of swords like people make out. It had a really good cut, in some cases reported to kill in 1 hit and take down many people with GUNS! But it has many downsides, no handgaurd, no pommel, quite comberson, can't stab and rather short.

[@sinister6929]

Living Lifeform katana can stab

[@Xenolaothe67]

sinister 692 Katana can stab...but can it stab through a kite shield?

[@horvathbenedek3596]

+Living Lifeform You are almost as bad as Matpat in terms of accuracy. I will say it ONCE as a sword enthusiast and mechanical engineer-in-the-making: 1) Taking down people with guns as a swordsman is not the quality of the sword, but the wielder; or more likely, the incompetence of the gunners. Practically any sword can kill in one hit, if the opponent is not wearing armor. 2) It has a handguard, it doesn't have a crossguard; this is important because many European longsword techniques rely on the use of the crossguard for leverage. 3) Not having a pommel means absolutely nothing in quality. It means the sword is not peened, and that the point of balance is not affected by the pommel. For this exact reason, the katana's point of balance if relatively off to the tip, and the blade behaves a lot like a stiff, two handed machete. 4) Cumbersome? Dude, it weighs at most 1.2 kgs! If you meant its point of balance, you are right. But it is by no means heavy. Generally weapons are light. 5) Can't stab? Bullshit. 6) rather short - first time you are completely right! It IS short. Now, what was the ACTUAL problem with a katana: It was made out of pattern welded high and low carbon steel. However, low carbon steel can't be heat treated, which is a process that ultimately makes the blade harder, more resilitent, and most notably, spring. I don't want to go too deep into metallurgy, the point is, the katanas's high carbon edge was neither homogenous (is was fitted inside the softer socket like the maya's obsidian swords - small pieces, one at a a time), nor able to ensure the required elasticity of the blade. So, in short, the katana BENDS when sideways forces apply to it (which is about any strike onto hard material, like dirt, armor, other swords, shields, etc). Modern katana replicas are homogenous steel, and thus don't suffer from these shortcomings, but historically, it is not unheard of that a katana breaks or bends irreparably during a duel, simply due to shitty forge welding or bad materials.

[@Randomdudefromtheinternet]

*WARNING!!!!* The next video contains misleading information, only watch it as a mean of entertainment.

[@DystopianDustin]

It’s only off by a bit, but it was unbalanced cuz the Vikings weren’t as poor as MatPat said, the Samurai got a horse, and the Knights were correct. In reality, the Samurai would die first, followed by either Vikings or Knights. It would go either way.

[@jimbeam8338]

@@DystopianDustin No, it's actually of by quite a bit. There are multiple videos debunking this video, dude lol

[@anglosaxaphone672]

Matt REALLY needs ta get his historical gnosis in check. all of them would be pretty evenly matched.

[@olimpiacookiethrower]

"In partnership of Ubisoft"

[@alexanerose4820]

Unless Ubisoft told him to make the samurai win, then no it was not.

[@KS-ro7lm]

the legitimatly may have told him to dismiss the vikings, I mean from what i see, most of the youtubers and streamers go viking, and in game its had a big effect on the battle with vikings winning 66% of the time on the map

[@Jack_Arbor]

DunkMaster Funk what game were you playing where there isn't a sea of green?

[@anthonyolander1065]

so shields dont exist, vikings inhabit an unihabitable wastland, knights don't own horses, and the game isn't set like it is, unless you're a samurai

[@Haos51]

I find it funny how in the game proper, Knights and Vikings are seen with horses, and the Samuai aren't. What's more it appears that they live in a swampish area in the game so they probably don't have any horses with them.

[@clb9935]

Haos51 camargue lifestyle amiright.

[@AdamAnouer]

Well the thing this theory really underestimates is just how dangerous axes actually are in combat. Battle axes in addition to being able to be wielded with only 1 hand could EASILY deliver enough sharp force to seriously damage chain mail armour and it could easily grapple shields leaving those using a broad shield especially vulnerable to attack. Samurai's and Knights would use swords but I guarantee they would not rely on them in battle, if you use a sword your main aim is decapitation (or to cut flesh, not armour) so your primary weapon would be a polearm or spear variant such as a trident. Then there's the addition of Crossbow's which were extensively used by knights while shortbows were often used by Samurai. To put it simply... The Viking has the means of doing the most damage but the other 2 combatants are capable at keeping their targets at a distance with their primary weapon choice. Between Samurai and Knight the final factor would be a matter of endurance and stamina from the Knight vs Mobility from the samurai but either way it''s likely the looser would die to multiple internal injuries after such a battle.

[@imgunnafuckingkillmyself5151]

vikings also had spears and bows, and their bows had much greater range. they used chain-mail too.

[@Darksky1001able]

Actor Adam Anouer there's a video that shows a person in full plate doing somersaults and cartwheels. There's a lot more mobility in plate armor than people believe. But what I think it and agree is that it does boil down to stamina, luck, the individual fighter, and just who knows how to hit where. A samurai is awesome, I love the knight for I crusade for Holy God, and I admire the Vikings. But as Skallagrim says, there's so much to take into account. You'll never really get a solid answer try as you might.

[@thetalantonx]

Watching Skal's, Shad's, Meta's, and of course The Sword's Path's videos about this has been fantastic. So I guess this served some purpose, even just as fertilizer.

[@senatorarmstrong8960]

“He’s got a bow” “You idiot, we’ve all got bows”

[@bumbumbimbam99]

"Even Skyrim got it wrong" *The entire internet shows up at his house*

[@GenericUsername-qp1ww]

this entire video is Matpat grasping at straws to make the samurai seem better and that statement was the final nail in the coffin. Call me crazy but last time I checked an atlas of Earth, Skyrim wasn't shown on there. Maybe due to it being a fictional country

[@brightflamed_crusader1452]

Skyrim is a fantasy game. The nords are based off of vikings but they *aren’t* vikings so they can wear horns because it’s fictional.

[@ratboyoftheratrealm5844]

This was probably one of the weirdest things in his video, actually made me mad

[@rederen3350]

I don't want to go r/iamverysmart, but horned helmets would've just made it easier to get knocked off, or if they were attached something nice to hold on to as they slit their throat. Also, there isn't any evidence of horned helmets anyway, so...

[@ratboyoftheratrealm5844]

@@rederen3350 Yes, there usually isn't evidence of fictional characters doing things. I don't want to go r/Iamverysmart, but fictional means not real. Maybe it would be a disadvantage, but it is heavily implied in Skyrim that those iron helmets are a traditional nordic thing many of their warriors have had.

[@akifaiman7388]

So a knight - Shadiversity A viking - Skallagrim And a samurai - Metatron Walk into a bar Matpat: i got all facts wrong

[@GenericUsername-qp1ww]

MatTwat will never admit to his faults, in fact I think I remember not long after being called out he actually insulted the ppl who called him out on his historical accuracy before he quickly deleted the post so as to not look like the uninfomed immature egotistical moron he is

[@theapproachingstorm2133]

@@GenericUsername-qp1ww Then we have the other egotistical pricks like you, he got stuff wrong oh well, why do you think it's called a theory

[@samasterchief]

@@theapproachingstorm2133 matpat being factually incorrect is not the problem here. What is really bad is that apperently matpat couldn't accept that he was providing false facts and therefor lashed out on people who were trying correcting him. Its embarrassing how childish matpat initially handled the issue.

[@theapproachingstorm2133]

@@samasterchief Yeah, but it's also childish to deal with it in the manner you're dealing with it, in the end none of it matters, he made the video, for debunked, was a bit childish, so what? It legit doesn't affect anyone

[@samasterchief]

@@theapproachingstorm2133 oh definitely. This video was 2 years ago, most people don't really care much anymore about what happened in this video and just joke about it. I was talking about your statement and tried to justify why people didn't like how matpat handled the situation.

[@SuperSizeMe]

Funny how after this video three different channels made different videos each debunking the inaccuracies for each of the 3 cultures.

[@celtic7029]

Matpat: vikings only had shields and axes as weapons The ulfberht : am i a joke to you

[@amartyabiswas4972]

You're the first person I've seen in the comment section, who mentioned about Ulfberth

[@celtic7029]

@@amartyabiswas4972 yeah well I've done my homework about history

[@amartyabiswas4972]

@@celtic7029 same here. This theory was disappointing

[@celtic7029]

@@amartyabiswas4972 heh Tell me about it

[@amartyabiswas4972]

@@celtic7029 I'm mildly disappointed that he is just portraying the Vikings as mindless brutes, while the Knight doesn't even gets much of mention. And then starts fanboying over Samurais. I almost started laughing at the end of the video.

[@Alonzoflaco]

Obviously the knights would win. Only in Europe did they have unscrewable pommels

[@visionplant]

What? But my 20$ cheap katana's pommel just pops off which means it's clearly better than any European sword. You'd have to unscrew it off which would take like 10 seconds and by that time my catalog katana already cut through your knight's plate armor, the chain mail underneath, the gambeson underneath that, and space and time because that's how katana's work.

[@6216ryn]

stfu

[@carsontroeh127]

r/mallninjashit

[@ec2838]

Alonzoflaco end him rightly

[@willherondale6367]

Alonzoflaco Best comment 😂😂

[@siarlses]

Matt: The vikings die instantly Vikings: go on to win every single faction war

[@arontuske9348]

@Demiclea But majority of them

[@chewbaccazmzach2752]

This video aged like the Samurai do in faction war

[@rocatiusmatautia-solomona1314]

I figured out the faction war schedule of who wins, firstly knights win less often than Samurai's despite their large presence, a high number of Samurai players play Knight characters however so it's quite random to figure out or pin point knights specific victory frame. Samurai's have more chances of winning faction wars much more during a holiday or weekly/monthly event or around the end of the year, i don't know how. But my theory is that Knights and Viking players are played by people with less time on their hands during the holidays compared to the Samurai's. Vikings commonly win everytime.

[@melissamacdonald7330]

Yes

[@thelistener1252]

It actually how you play the game an how good you are so it doesn’t matter because I win more when I play samurai

[@rados1aw]

Pretty much every faction at this stage wore chain mail, which was hard to prenetrate anyway by slashing. So vikings did have armor. They weren't these people with no chest plates on winter. I think overall Knights were the best. Best technology at the time. Especially with the castles.

[@gregh4150]

Oof 1. Vikings used mail armor 2. They also had shields (That were good) 3. It wasn't a cold barren wasteland 4. They had horses, good weapons, amazing hand to hand combat, and if rich actually got a sword 5. The weapons were notably made of some of the best steel found. 6. They bows 7. They varied from size 8. Have a good day

[@Sb_Antimony]

This video: *exists* Skallagrim, Shadiversity & Metatron: So you have chosen death...

[@sirhoward.]

I see your a man of culture

[@razvanel9731]

@@sirhoward. Indeed

[@custodianvrael6471]

Check matt eastons video, thats a beatdown from hell

[@AliAsghar-cv3og]

Not once did he bring up the pommel throw, 100% bullshittery and beta

[@commandergree]

Uhm all Historians

[@Kopa_Malphas]

But the Vikings had some of the most advanced crucible steel swords in history, and iron ringmail hauberks like 11th century knights. Dude, you really need to take some time to read if you dont understand something. Also good job ignoring the fact that a Knight is the European Equivalent of Samurai, they were nobles.

[@jaret217]

Yes sir, yes sir! The Scandinavians had some of the very best metalurgical processes in the world at the time, and may have been the original inventors of case-hardened steel. They were quite a bit more intelligent than they were given credit for. Probably because the majority of their histories were written by people butthurt about getting their asses kicked. The author of this video for some reason just decides that they didn't have good steel because their countries were too cold. Which is stupid on top of stupid. On top of their helmets (minimal) armor and weapons being made of very high quality steel, their bows were quite powerful for the era, and their shields were one of the very first examples of composite materials being used by anybody for anything. The shields were designed to catch the blades of axes, spears and any kind of thrusting weapon like a short sword or dagger. This would essentially disarm their opponents who had to choose between trying to wriggle their weapon free or ditching it altogether. They were also very large, providing an excellent defense of vital areas from archers.

[@richardkertscher8807]

jaret217 true, but matpat is right, not during the 11th century

[@miltongam5870]

jaret217 "The Scandinavians had some of the very best metalurgical processes in the world at the time" Yet i'm swedish and my metal foundry malfuncioned a bit and went up to around 3000 degrees celsius and there poured out lava and molten metal from its parts... you can see my fail on my channel

[@derpymcderp2022]

That's because you're not a true Scandinavian, Milton

[@RockerMarcee96]

Before anyone saying Ulfberht is wootz. Ulfberht swords lack tungsten and vanadium in content but it has high amounts of phosphate inclinations in it. So there's that. Also this is Damascus under the microscope: www.tms.org/pubs/journals/JOM/9809/Verhoeven-9809.fig.1b.lg.gif This is Ulfberht and other Frankish swords under the microscope: www.tf.uni-kiel.de/matwis/amat/iss/kap_b/illustr/ulfberht_frankish_microstructure.jpg From what we can see here is that the crystalline structure is more homogenous in the Ulfberht, but it is made from the same steel as the other Frankish swords. The homogenous crystalline structure is due to correct quenching and tempering methods, what we see on later High Medieval European swords but without the phosphate inclinations and instead we see a far more homogenous steel base. From what I have seen is clear evidence that they used the same forging methods as seen in other Frankish swords, with the same steel but the quenching method was different. We know sand and oil was very common. Water quenching makes harder steels as it cools faster. But Ulfberht swords aren't very hard, at most 550 Vickers at the edge but it varies from 200-550 from sword to sword. Maybe wet sand? Now the wet sand is just a hypothesis (which MatPat confuses for theory).

[@thisiscoral]

Cant believe it's been 4 years. Matpat, stick to film and game theories. Leave historical accuracy to the pros.

[@atombossd952]

This video: exists Historians: so I see someone has started to fanboy over the samurai

[@bladedoodle]

Mat, you have Metatron, Skallagrim and shadiversity calling you out for inconsistencies. It's not just us nit picky viewers anymore.

[@thechugdude]

bladedoodle just watched all their videos... awesome..

[@markvigaming3648]

bladedoodle they're just nitpicky viewers with small channels, your point?

[@thechugdude]

Mark VI Gaming Nitpicky must be another phrase for historically accurate.

[@markvigaming3648]

gladomi OP used the phrase pal, not me. Besides, if you internet warriors are gonna call someone out for something, call them out on something that matters like the theories he does on science, the world of technology and more recent history that still matters.

[@thechugdude]

Mark VI Gaming He's generally not incorrect when it comes to most of his videos so no one can "call him out" on those. When someone gets their facts mixed up then yes it should be corrected as to not spread falsehoods.

[@ianfreeman2807]

The fact you said "Greaves" and pointed at the Samurai's hand just proves you have to do a little bit more research, my man. Greaves were armor that covered the shin, not the hand. Come on man, you're better than that.

[@Quincy_Morris]

Ian Freeman one could say it was a greavous mistake

[@milkduds1001]

.......... Thumbs down for the awesome pun.......

[@maskedmisery4319]

Hard to believe he plays medieval games and has not once noticed the difference between gauntlets, lower arm protection; and greaves, lower leg protection. Could google it and you would get the proper answer.

[@K1ngF1sher]

You appear to have spelled "up" wrong my dear sir.

[@jyrgenruut]

No, actually, he is not. I have not seen a single video where actual historical facts are presented or calculations are correct for about 1.5 years now from him :(

[@kingdice2578]

5 years later and I’m still waiting for a follow up video, taking the characters as they are into account - and also now including the wu lin

[@TheBluePhoenix008]

Ah yes, the dark age of The Game Theorists.

[@mylifeisacomplexpastiche7901]

Remember when MatPat used empirical evidence and not stereotypes? Those were good times.

[@Ezio999Auditore]

i member

[@JimGiant]

Yeah this was before he became Ubisoft's bottom bitch.

[@TomatoBreadOrgasm]

No. That never happened.

[@westy229]

pepperidge farms remembers...

[@panicpillow6097]

indeed, his logic has always been scewed and his premisses have often been straight up false

[@IronDruids]

You really should check out Skallagrims reply to this video, along with others like him in the historical arms and armour/historical combat youtube community. You brought this channels conversation into their wheelhouses and they've brought up some really interesting points that kinda disprove this video. Again, you should really check him out and through him the other youtubers that are also replying.

[@DoktorWeasel]

Yeah, it's a bad time to be putting out poorly researched stuff like this and claim it's a historical analysis. There are actually people who really do understand this time period. There are several major KZbinrs who do exactly this kind of thing. So they can point out all the bad information in here (as can their viewers). I don't know what it is about medieval arms and armor that makes every gamer think they know what they're talking about. No. For people who actually know this stuff you can check channels like Scholagladiatoria (my favorite for swords and weaponry), Knyght Errant (the best for armor), Skallagrim (the most popular), Metatron (I'm not as familiar with him but he does some good work on Japanese arms and armor).

[@logansmith2703]

Iron Druid Shadiversity debunked the knights skallagrim the Viking and Metatron the samurai

[@IronDruids]

+Logan Smith Thanks for letting me know. I bookmarked them already and will be sure to give those video's a watch when I have the time :)

[@IronDruids]

+DoktorWeasel I completely agree with that, and if someone is ever thinking about doing a video on these kinds of subjects it would only be smart to consult/chat with people who know their stuff forwards and backwards. And thanks for introducing me to Knyght Errant, I'm going to be checking him out later :)

[@logansmith2703]

***** Yw bro

[@MrGecko-dm9kh]

A weeb with no historical knowledge? That’s a bad combination

[@MisterAcker]

5:00 "the mythology is all people really know" You included, clearly lmao

[@zach7372]

Nah he doesn't even know mythology, only the stereotypes.

[@THEDARKMISTT]

And there you have it kids, almost two million people misinformed about the Knights, Vikings and the Samurai. Then again the only ones who were really misinformed were the sheep weren't they?

[@DarthMalnu]

Optimistically though, the amount of fact checking in the comments is refreshing.

[@diegokaqui60]

he was acurate you know...

[@Xaxp]

Its almost kinda fascinating...

[@ArkBlanc]

Yes Diego, accurately misinformed!

[@JamSessionsEX]

No he wasn't. Knights and Templar's outclass Samurai in every way. Even Vikings could have taken Japan easily. The weapons and armor of knights far outclassed the samurai's iron sand and wood. The steel from Japan's iron sand is extremely weak and fragile. A Katana wouldn't cut through ring-mail, let alone chain-mail or plate armor. Knights would have broken and bent the weapons of the Samurai with ease. Quality and Quantity over having poor equipment at the start.

[@jaketaylor804]

I started laughing when he said that Vikings only wore cloth armour and then he put a picture of a Viking wearing mail and a helmet with a big round shield :) :)

[@68Layers]

Yeah that's the 1% of viking warriors

[@stestudios2544]

Plus that pic wasn’t accurate to the timeline he was talking abt

[@jacobjucker341]

@@68Layers knights were the 1% of Europeans and samurai were the 1% of the Japanese. An English peasant won't have mail or plate armor either.

[@68Layers]

@@jacobjucker341 okay??

[@jacobjucker341]

@@68Layers there's no point in mentioning that most vikings didn't have that since we're comparing the top warriors from each culture.

[@warlord6579]

1)Knights were also the 1 percent. 2)SHIELDS! 3)You forgot to account for the Japanese Great bow and how low quality of iron they had.

[@TheJosiahwolfe]

This needs a remake with better research lol

[@Quincy_Morris]

I've been a huge fan of this series but seriously matpat you need to publicly apologize for all the misinformation in this video.

[@alexanerose4820]

People here think they know whe none of us know for sure. It's all one big fad at this point.

[@rossowinch69]

He says 'I know that we live in a day and age, where people are afraid to be wrong' to say thank you to people who apologized to him about the Gaster video, but never once even mentioning this video and its inaccuracies.

[@RockerMarcee96]

We may not know for sure everything, but we know a lot. And MatPat got every single thing wrong in his video that is approved in academia or martial arts communities.

[@Strifegar]

Yep, I have to agree. While he said he did research, its obvious that he didn't.

[@thelordpotatoesorjtswagste1945]

he needs to make a video crediting the people who corrected him and make a new verdict

[@sold0ut210]

"Hey guys, the knights only have Hauberks because proper armor costs money. That's why the samurai win, because they somehow have money the knights don't have. Also the knights don't use shields." Okay MatPat.

[@terribleauthority]

i think im going to have a stroke, lmfao.

[@darekbaird]

I know right! He never even bothered to bring up Kite shields or the fact that Knights wore some light armor under their chain mail (forgot what it's called but still come on Mat Pat!)

[@pawhunter340]

Darek Baird they wore gambisens under there chainmale which combine with chainmale can stop arrows people under estimate chainmale a sword can't cut through it its impossible

[@njoYYY]

A sword cant even cut through a well made wooden shield. lol

[@alexanerose4820]

Charging in, falling with great force, supposedly dazed, then shoot in the face. Yeah, mobile firepower beats this guy.

[@davidstears7037]

So... MatPat doesn't know history?

[@christinahoelscher9029]

You gust mad 😂

[@For_Honor_Kid_With_Honor]

​@@christinahoelscher9029 insulting but can't spell is sad

[@For_Honor_Kid_With_Honor]

Matpat knows history he just had alot of inaccuracies, so soft you are...

[@WankersCramp69]

MatPat: "Samurai would win" Lawbringer: "Allow me to introduce myself"

[@F16Jacob]

viking dies in battle viking goes to valhalla viking wins every time

[@dosken756]

sounds like islam...

[@denaz5000]

It is.

[@huahujpo4097]

kinda

[@enzantakeshita8838]

Because it's Europe-islam

[@justalittleturtle5600]

valhalla isn't really a heaven. It's an endless war for vikings to enjoy, but do you really think endless dying is wining?

[@AdrielClaflin]

I can hear Skalagrim screaming from here.

[@bcn1gh7h4wk]

you mean you can hear him.... battlecrying.

[@shrapnellove2224]

The Pommel!

[@AdrielClaflin]

That's what Mat forgot! The age old technique of ending him rightly!

[@ArmouredProductions]

I hope Skallagrim, Shad, Metatron, and others rip this apart. Bout time Game Theory was taken down a notch

[@naoura4939]

My ears are already hurting from it...

[@Genghis_Khaan_]

Weeb and fanboy don’t mix well with this subject.

[@walledsand]

To everyone whos mad about the outcome "Remember that's just a theory a film theory thanks for not raging

[@Richard_Nickerson]

I hope I'm not the first person to point out how completely and factually Shad of Shadiversity destroyed this video.

[@roberte.o.speedwagon5811]

And Skallagrim as well

[@zombiejaba3935]

Exactly

[@-shura-5515]

Don't worry, you're not.

[@captaincaribbean9792]

We have nearly the same profile pic

[@Richard_Nickerson]

@@captaincaribbean9792 We literally do have the same profile pic, mate. They're just centered differently.

[@ArcaneSunset]

so accurate the first 3 vids I see in the suggested videos are debunking videos by historical YT channels, Skallagrim, Metatron and Shadiversity for respectively Vikings, Samurai and Knights. Sorry Mat, this is a mess.

[@chrispy_091]

Not sure I would trust their information anymore than Mat's, except maybe Skallagrim, if only because he uses common sense in the actual function of these weapons and armor than any actual knowledge of how this stuff worked a thousand years ago.

[@JacquesdeJef]

they do better resarcg, they know their stuff their aire hisory geek

[@ArcaneSunset]

Christopher Flores that doesn't make a bunch of stereotypes any more credible. Shadiversity and Metatron have given a verifiable take on the argument, as did Skallagrim. I've studied medieval history and those claims that Matpat made on knights made me cringe so hard... Vikings and samurai too, but my knowledge there gets a bit less accurate and only driven by personal research.

[@ArcaneSunset]

JacquesdeJef well, yeah, pretty much. There is verifiable material one can consult to test those claims and they clearly know a lot of it.

[@chrispy_091]

What is this resarcg you speak of?

[@johnstuartkeller5244]

I was going to give this an honest shot, but when I heard of the Vikings, "Their weapons were garbage," I quit and hit Dislike. You are an authority on video games and pop culture, sir. If you want to talk history, try this thing called research. Up to date, non-pop culture, actual historical research.

[@tulipalll]

DAMN straight.

[@RilgoHodnda]

Alternative title: matpat fangirls over the samurai for 16 minutes

[@badday4885]

This video: All Vikings: armor too expensive All Knights: good armor too expensive All Samuri: only THE MOST EXPENSIVE ARMOR

[@lurg5049]

here why don't I throw in an extra thousand for the Apple horse armor.

[@junyibiolasion674]

Im guessing he just thought you could only be a samurai if you had these sorts of luxuries, but in reality, many samurais didnt actually fight nor were they wealthy by any means

[@Hades-1021]

All Knights: only buy shields and swords

[@dontme6152]

@@Hades-1021 they had a spear for cavalry

[@AkGamerRo]

Knights were GIVEN the BEST ARMAMENT and TRAINING their lord could afford in exchange only for their loyalty. No need to worry about the price of a sword when your boss buys it for you.

[@kevinoneal9779]

First came Shad, and in his glory, he stood with the knights of old. Then came Metatron, with his discipline and skill, he stood with the samurai of legend. Hark! Upon the horizon! The mighty bearded leader of the savage northmen! *Skallagrim* *****and also Snap, Shad's young squire. He was there too.

[@Chatedh]

Skallagrim wielding 1000 pommels!!!

[@diarmuidbalfe7264]

Kevin O'Neal Hehehehe! Classic!

[@reniorjd]

Kevin O'Neal poor SnapJelly, so easily forgotten.

[@finn87632]

He shalt end them all rightly like the icelandic sagas foretold!

[@kevinoneal9779]

**and also Snap, Shad's young squire. He was there too.

[@tehziountrain8584]

Alternative: the knight gets back up and says “dis is but a scratch.”

[@kyhtus6593]

"Before Twitter, truly we are I. The Dark ages" Bruh an age with Twitter IS the Dark ages

[@xenoherder6491]

Skallagrims gonna be pissed

[@Qaosbringer]

Who cares. I like his videos but I really bored from Japanese hater "History specialist" KZbinrs. You can't expect Vikings to win everytime...

[@spamhonx56]

somehow, i don't think skallagrim would expect vikings to win here either. as pointed out, it's raiders versus professional, richly equipped soldiers. the knights, as depicted in for honour, would win hands down, just because the armour in the game is fairly good plate armour, though not 100% historically accurate.

[@Fanta69420]

lol what i was thinking

[@guldrev]

true, but you can expect him to get their armory right, vikings had access to mail, the same as the knights and fairly good swords, now if all of them had the money for it is something completly different.

[@jackscott1218]

See his FB post? This is gonna be good. I've always wanted to see him roast someone like this.

[@MadM0nte]

Wow. Just wow. This I've never seen so many misconceptions put into a single video.

[@masterchief3007]

MadM0nte I have...

[@cinderwood3218]

The problem I have with these videos is it's always "the best potential Samurai (who is already the pinnacle of his nation's warrior caste)" versus the generic European soldier/raider that we'll call a knight/viking

[@thesyndicatebruh]

So, this theory basically doesn't matter because all he did was simp for the samurai.

[@FabioYesYes]

FACTS

[@CheddarMannn]

4:47 This video in a nutshell

[@felixsilverberg2611]

Did buzzfeed do your research?

[@joris4235]

Felix silverberg BURN

[@512TheWolf512]

Felix silverberg oooh, so good

[@mikaelv4484]

that would explain why the only non white male won the fight

[@Flansey]

ay lmao

[@imnotcreativeenough7208]

whoever wants medium rare can turn around now cus this is a full on roast BOO YAAAAAAHH!!!! good one mate

[@boreman_rides]

matpat: vikings didnt wear armor documented proof of viking mail armor: am i a joke to you?

[@witchhunter6755]

Yes, you are

[@boreman_rides]

You just had to be that one guy didn't you 😂😂😂

[@witchhunter6755]

@@boreman_rides Deus vult

[@boreman_rides]

@@witchhunter6755 ?

[@witchhunter6755]

@@boreman_rides yees?

[@pestilence7394]

Love how incorrect this is on every single point

[@assassinsgod8159]

You know if a samurai was using his katana he was desperate that's the last resort

[@tripthethird3605]

Knights' armor made them slow? Phillip Augustus was pulled off his horse at the battle of Bouvines by enemy infantry and beaten by their weapons (which couldn't pierce his armor) until his men drove them off before, in the words of a contemporary chronicler, "with his great strength, (launching) himself back onto his horse."

[@RockerMarcee96]

Well if they would have hammered him for long enough (for about 10-15 minutes) he might have died. But it was pretty much required for any knight to be able to vault upon his (or any) horse in full harness.

[@tripthethird3605]

That's my point exactly. Armor is much lighter than you would think. Watch Shadiversity's video on it.

[@RockerMarcee96]

Sam Whoreston I practice HEMA I have worn gear for normative combat (though not mine but it fit me anyway oh and normative combat gear is a good 5-10 kgs heavier than actual field gear) and it's bad in the first few hours but it didn't feel heavy at all. It's hot and uncomfortable but hey it protects you from death. But for example we read Giacomo Di Grassi's opinion on what feats a knight should have we see such as to be able to run fast and for long in harness, vault upon horses, be very quick both on foot and on horse and in general be well exercised. Not necessarily strong as an ox but to be as fit as possible.

[@Legiro]

Are you actually suggesting that a man having a well distributed weight of 15 to 25 kg on his body could be capable of such feats in Medieval times? What a blunder! Next thing you'll say is that modern soldiers are carrying similar, if not bigger, weight and are still expected to walk more than 3 miles without complaining. And even if you do, surely you understand that 15 kg of armour obviously weighs at least 30 kg. Because its armour. Its heavy. And never was designed with ability to move your joints and perform any kind of physical feats. Because knights only fought on tournaments, tied to the horses so they didn't fall. And occasionally died to Black Plague.

[@tripthethird3605]

Legiro [citation needed]

[@asharkydude]

The knight section was so painfully short, this whole video felt like matpat was fanboying over samurai

[@witchhunter6755]

That would be because he was

[@tangedy]

yeah I thought so too

[@garthfrench3528]

Ye

[@CornerOfJudgement]

Ima be honest. I'm a samurai main

[@jamiejames416]

plate armour is superior to lamellar armour, and in some cases is lighter.

[@bjorn2110]

Vikings Chain mail. (If wealthy) Dane axe. Ufberht sword. (If rich) Possibly gambison like armor. SHIELD THAT CAN STOP ARROWS IF MADE PROPERLY. 2 handed spear. Bearded axe. Did not fear death. Jomsvikings. Berserkers. Vikings had their own fighting style. Vikings trained in this fighting style from a young age vikings trained in weapon combat from a young age. The only thing this guy got right was average vikings were 5'7

[@Deucces]

Not only did knights apparently not own horses, but they also didn't have as much money available the samurai? I mean its not like knights served right under or even were lords.

[@XxSparZanzAxX]

Bro, do you even history?

[@anatolemerrifield4888]

PFCSnafu i now right ?

[@cjkavy2299]

PFCSnafu I think it's a bit sensationalized and discredits a bit but overall I agree with him, look at the Mongols, they took archery to an extreme and smashed villages to bits with their bows on horseback.

[@1CrypticNC]

What you fail to see is that the Eastern Asian countries were rarely depicted with any kind of traditional sheild equipment, they had plates yes but the why they are descriped a well place arrow would go through them due to their functionality. Vikings and Knights were all about sheilds and sheild walls and defensive formations, and they also had bows its not like they would be caught off guard by seeing a bow. If the Mongols were the ones int his situation then that mite have some truth to it, while the Samurai were mostly fighting eachother, Mongols were fighting everyone around them, and would pick up more on their Gurella [[cant spell]] Warfare in order to combat them.

[@Caedus696]

Except that if you go watch Skall's video on the topic the best he could find in reference to samuri era bows their range teetered out at around 50m while viking longbows had a range of almost 200m. Also vikings used shield wall tactics while in open battle.

[@There-Is-No-Virus]

You ask the question and give no answer or even reply to your question. Easy to fake knowledge when you dont give it!

[@jehocho1163]

BadPat strikes again with lack of proper research. I guess the hollywood tropes got to his head. >Implies that Vikings went into battle nude right after mentioning the Scandinavian climate >Forgets that gambeson exists (BadPat calls it "quilted fabric", also longbows cannot penetrate gambeson so I'm pretty sure samurai bows can't either) >Also forgets the Viking nobility wearing chain mail >Also forgets Viking shields >Also forgets that the Vikings were not exclusively raiders, but farmers as well. >Ironically points out the misconception about horned helmets but gets 70% of the rest of the facts in the video incorrect. >Knights did not come with castles, but knights came with the feudal system. Stone castles did not exist until the 13th century, only stone keeps. >Longswords did not exist in the 11th century. >Knights sometimes wore head to toe chain mail, not only hauberks >Gives samurai the best armour because they are rich but doesn't give the knights their plate armour even though they are also wealthy landlords? This is emphasised by the fact that BadPat said that plate armour was expensive, so many knights could not use it. >Medieval armour is about even in weight compared to samurai armour, so the slower knight argument is invalid >Forgets about squires and other men the knight employed in a defensive role, but only mentions the samurai version of the tactic. >Sad deathbattle reference as they are in no better state research-wise than BadPat is right now. >Forgets about barding for the knight's horse (barding is mail or armour in general for the horse) >The knight apparently does not have a kite shield, which was a standard for knights in the 11th century >Knights don't just wear hauberks, they wear gambeson under it, which can stop arrows.

[@99smartperson]

Jeho Cho Lets have good hearted debate, ok? >Later in the video states that vikings also wore light armour. > Was that made durring the 11th century? >I think Matpat tries to use the avg. viking warrior in this battle. >Sheilds can only help so much when double teamed. >Irrelevant within the context of this battle. >Yes on the horns. >Irrelevant within the context of this battle. >Never said the knight in the arena used a longsword. >Still had a hard time against a repeated arrow strikes >I think Matpat tries to use the avg. knight in this battle. >Weight payed little factor in the battle. >The samurai never brought their body guards to the battle. So why should the knight? >Superman always beats Goku. Kirby beats everything. >Average knight most likley could not affor armour for their horse. >The knight fell off of their horse. Probably lost their Shield when they fell. >Repeated arrow strikes

[@jamesdracup6719]

Jeho Cho also matpats equivalent to plate mail for the samurai was made of wood

[@yorkshire_tea_innit8097]

99smartperson He says the wealthiest viking used leather and the average used quilted fabric whilst showing a picture of a viking in a long sleeved T-shirt. Where in reality the wealthiest used mail and the average had a mix of mail, gambeson and leather. Also not every broad category of armour is equal, mail was used for over a thousand years and there were large developments in metallurgy, and armour design throughout the ages. As for metallurgy the Japanese were over 400 years behind the west in the 11th century, so maybe their "plate" is worse than good quality mail. It isn't like the west couldn't make plate, the romans had it 1000 years prior. They just preferred mail for whatever reason.

[@icedragon769]

The difference is that, in the 11th century, "knight" wasn't a term of nobility. That sense of "sir whatever" being a special title didn't come until the late 12th century or thereabouts. At the time of our battle royale, "knight" is basically a synonym for "mercenary", "servant soldier". The sense of "knight" to mean "mounted warrior" doesn't come about until the Hundred Years' War. Samurai, on the other hand, was already a title of nobility.

[@lisquidsnake]

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[@user-nk8zx1yw8s]

I think it’s obvious that knights would win without a doubt. Simply because of much superior armor and weapons.

[@mariagonazalez295]

Did Matpat forget that knights also have bows?

[@Arkanthrall]

presentation and editing: 10/10 content and accuracy: 0/10

[@pungivergiverofpuns3611]

eh I'd give him a 4/10 maybe a 5/10 at least he got the part about Samurai being mainly archers correct. Most people go 'Katana oh mer gerd!"

[@reniorjd]

Darkgeasss Nope check metatron's video on this.

[@pungivergiverofpuns3611]

reniorjd I have

[@pungivergiverofpuns3611]

reniorjd metartron has stated in multiple videos hat the samurai were bow users. I'm not saying that matpat got many things right, but he did have he presence of mind to realize that samurai did use bows

[@iLlamas1]

He got ONE thing right, how is this a 4/10?

[@jackstorm1014]

I think you forgot to do your research Sir Mat

[@jumpscaretimesanddimension5827]

jack storm I don't understand the hate on this video. (I haven't seen the whole video yet)

[@ATMOSK1234]

Alot of historian youtubers came forward to point out that almost everything in the video is wrong.

[@shadowhunter240]

well, i believe it does get intense when youtubers, who study history get involved. personally i don't know a lot about samurai or viking culture or knights, but i do study medieval weaponry and A) people didn't go bare chest in a fight. especially with the raiders. Please let it be noted, that i love matpat and his vids, but as a guy who studies history and myths, this was one of his worst one. No offense, my fellow fans.

[@BloodyValentineJoke]

he didn't forget it. he saw that it didn't serve his purpose and slowly but steadily killed it by burying it alive.

[@jackstorm1014]

BloodyValentineJoke i like this guy, this guy is nice

[@iko8809]

I just got for honor after all this time and decided I would come back to this video. still amazing

[@GBGBGBGB]

I like how we get mad when we have to do presentations in school, but to this channel its kinda the point

[@mornemauvais5873]

Underrated comment for sure!

[@Baron_Alice_Stares]

did you just forget that shields exist or what?

[@redeagleprogaming8182]

Jay Red you don't use shileds on horses

[@davidbodor1762]

Of course you use shields on horses wtf is wrong with you? You even have special shields designed for better mounted combat! Not that you need a special shield to be honest because almost any shield will do, especially the king of all shields, the kite shield which was used by both mounted and dismounted knights.

[@intellectualhybrid2]

redeagle pro gaming that's why you have armoured horses

[@Gabdube]

Pretty much everyone in the world that used cavalry also used shields prior to the development of early firearms. The only historical period when professional warriors who weren't archers did forego carrying a shield was the european late renaissance, when bows became obsolete after the refinement of full plate armor. For Honor does not seem to be inspired by renaissance-era warfare (except for the samurai armors and european longswords).

[@connorb3306]

Knights used shields on horseback

[@malcolmwright5793]

"The wealthiest vikings wore hardened leather." Mattpat. Where did you do your research?

[@pawhunter340]

Malcolm Wright ikr rich Vikings wore gambisens with chainmale and shield and they even had swords

[@malcolmwright5793]

There is absolutely no evidence to suggest vikings ever wore cuir bouilli, and the wealthiest of them tended to wear.. you know. The armour of the time period. Mail. I don't actually understand where the idea that they wore hardened leather even comes from, because the materials certainly would not survive long enough to turn up as archaeological evidence, and we've had a hard time finding *any* examples of widespread use of leather as armour. I legitimately want to find out what he researched that he could come out the other end with that kind of misconception.

[@legionnairewizeman4604]

Matpat meant the Viking FROM 11 century

[@malcolmwright5793]

Who historically wore mail and carried swords at their wealthiest, rather than being so poor as to barely be able to afford a seax, which by the way, being knives were rather ubiquitous at the time. The idea that leather was the height of their armor is pretty laughable considering almost no one historically used leather as armor, and that there is no evidence to support that assertion.

[@unknowndane4754]

The 11 century is near the end of the viking period so at this point they've already spent 200 years fighting the european, so it would be insanely weird if they didn't know and follow the common military trends of the time

[@dantezefanyaaryasulang9642]

Knight armor/plate and chainmail would make the katana mostly useless against knights or vikings (yes vikings also used chain)

[@spectralknightgaming8364]

So he just forgot the Knights and Vikings *BOTH HAVE SHIELDS*