Gaming PC Crashes at Random - LFC

[@Adamant_IT]

Lots of people overthinking the Molex Connector here. A) When I clipped off the rear fan's molex, I trimmed down into the 3-pin connector. The trimmed ends aren't exposed. B) Molex is a bad obsolete connector. Get over it. Molex fans have no software control, no RPM monitoring, and extremely limited speed control. Just because it's functional, doesn't stop it from being crap.

[@campkira]

this is why i moved to laptop...

[@maynardcrow6447]

Amen molex is f$cking garbage!

[@js0988]

Maybe it thinks it's an Apple device?

[@kraegor1977]

Been working on computers for 30 years. Never had a molex short by touching anything. Just a quick zip/twist tie and hide it. Never clip a wire. Any condensation or dust could link a cut wire since you are now talking like a 1mm connection distance instead of a greater distance. If you do clip it, always glue or tape the end wire, never leave bare.

[@williamjones4483]

@@kraegor1977 It's not likely, but it could happen. Do you see some of the component leads protruding on the bottom side of the graphics board? I see some that could conceivably short to the Molex connector. Molex connectors are also badly outdated. Used on computers dates back to at least the AT computers. In general electronics much further back than that.

[@Byzkit]

This video randomly came up and I decided to watch it, because I've been having the same exact problem. Long story short, same end result that my memory isn't supported by my motherboard. I changed the speed to 3000mhz as well and will be ordering compatible memory. And you have yourself a new subscriber as well

[@Brodda-Syd]

Well Done mate!!

[@deminybs]

like RAM you have isn't on the QVL from MOBO vendor??? cuz my RAM isn't on my MOBO qvl and has been at 3600 cl 14 since I bought them lol

[@Byzkit]

@@deminybs I've been having exact same issues as his customer was... Pc froze on me and two red lights started blinking... I checked the mobo manual and it has something to do with the ram, but want 100% sure until now

[@machinainc5812]

Byzkit usually is. I have a X99 system with the same issue.

[@cParman9]

that's why when i just built my new PC i made sure that the memory i bought was on that list of support ram.

[@pivottech8881]

Love this channel mainly because there's little to no skipping and you go though it step by step and go through everything and explain it Keep up the vids mate

[@adamtajhassam9188]

Always something new to learn that we don't always think about :)

[@DiagolonRider]

and he actually fixes stuff, not just say," oh its the motherboard " or "its the cpu" blah blar blar blah and replaces it... most people watching are prolly looking for a way to fix their pc without replacing hundreds of dollars worth of components lol. this, hands down is the best actual Tech channel on utube imo

[@jaredmyers4250]

KZbin's algorithm recommended this channel to me several weeks ago and I cannot thank it enough. Love the content!

[@kryptoniteee]

Fuck you Jared

[@AsunderSoft]

This appeared in my recommneded videos. I have been in the information technolgy field for 23 years and have worked on countless systems during that time. I enjoyed this video very much. It is always nice to see people who enjoy what they do and sharing it with others. I guess I need to go watch some of your other vidoes!

[@weedthepeople2795]

ya i watch a lot of tech vids and im confused about temperature ....... when i worked at a shop in the early 2000s nominal temps for cpus were roughly 30 - 40 degrees Celsius......when he said 76C was "a little high" my jaw dropped......i wanna say modern cpus run a little hotter now? from watching computer vids when the temps are shown, theyre all running pretty hot to me

[@אבירםאוחנה-ו2ל]

I'm also a computer technician, a computer enthusiast, and you look like someone I would hand over my computer to! Keep up with the videos! Great content !!

[@Whatthetrash]

I'm about to build my first PC so I've been looking up videos and this one was recommended to me. Thanks so much for making a clear, unrushed breakdown of what you're doing! So many channels focus more on snappy editing than clarity of what they're doing and thoroughness of information. Thanks so much!

[@jamescollins6085]

These videos remind me of the old KZbin, I really like that.

[@ff00005]

I OC'd my memory recently and had the same symptoms when some voltage was too low or a timing was too tight. In my experience an unstable CPU configuration doesn't crash single applications - either it doesn't show or the entire system crashes. Memory is in between and can crash single applications, I suspect because it corrupts single address spaces, where errors can't propagate through the entire system. It will hit the OS AS eventually which then causes "random crashes". You mentioned one tool you didn't know the name of, I think it's "DRAM calculator for Ryzen". EDIT: I just realized your first assumption of thermal issues can cause the same symptoms. I think you did a great job and I hope my comment doesn't look like I want to explain your job to you.

[@iStracchino]

a single addres error in memory don't crash single application but freeze windows, i have that problem with one of my ram stick :(

[@TobyIKanoby]

I have had unstable cpu configurations causing crashes in single applications, quite often actually. Games like ac: origins and Warhammer 2 for example, after giving the cpu a little bit more voltage it was fixed (happened to me on both Intel and AMD). It is tricky though because they tend to be seemingly random crashes and not replicable with common testing/benchmarking software. It took me quite a while to figure out what was the cause.

[@ArcaneSurreal]

After 20 years of building my own computers, I've learnt a few golden rules. One of them I was reminded of immediately before I clicked on this video. Incompatible memory is the first thorough 'go-to' which should be investigated with random crashes. Be it the brand and / or the speed.

[@griz7366]

how do i check the speed? my pc has been crashing really bad lately and i have no clue abouts computers

[@neilvincent5571]

Thanks to KZbin and thanks Adam, I have the same issue, same cpu and motherboard. Most of the time system is ok but randomly shuts down. I thought it was because I upgraded CPU and mobo without reinstalling Windows 10. Your manner of explanation is so thorough and a pleasure to listen to. You obviously enjoy what you are doing . Thanks Adam and well done.

[@SmarkDepper]

I was searching videos to treat my dead HDD... now I learned something that might prevent me to spend hours of troubleshoot in my upcoming upgrade. Man, you are awesome!

[@veganovus]

Really appreciate your comment at 9:58 about not changing all parts and actually wanting to diagnose the problem. Every time I've logged a support call for servers with Dell, they've sent out new DIMMs, motherboards and PERC controller and then never actually been able to tell me what the problem was. This time I put my foot down and told them only to send 2 DIMMs and I'll replace them myself - it worked and now I know there was an issue with 2 DIMMs.

[@reggiedixon2]

Great video, I like the methodology rather than the instant armchair diagnoses in the comments 🙄

[@u263a3]

💯

[@12thejsm]

Ah Yes, I can see the problem right here. The main game being played here is fortnite.

[@frozen_owl1493]

I was thinking the same thing

[@flamesgamingcommunity8624]

I hate rockstar juice

[@frozen_owl1493]

&Flam3z Clan good for you

[@barrybena1336]

Dude, it's a 1050ti. What do you expect?

[@ShainAndrews]

@@barrybena1336 I've played it on far far less. Machine never locks up.

[@torsson2]

Love your videos. You even made me tidy up my cable management after seeing how you take pride in your work and do things properly

[@DaleDix]

Consider yourself lucky, he's got me hooked on rgb.

[@torsson2]

@@DaleDix yeah soo. I have 4 RGB fans. RGB memory and RGB liquid pump... Probably Adams fault as well 😂

[@CharlieQ7400]

@@torsson2 You guys care for RGB ?

[@torsson2]

@@CharlieQ7400 it looks nice. Depends where the PC is located of course.

[@HuntersMoon78]

@@torsson2 My 3 PC's all have RGB fans, RGB Lighting strips. Ryzen has 10 RGB fans. Xeon has 7 RGB fans and RGB on the front of the case.. Opteron has 5 RGB fans and RGB on the front of the case.

[@ronkrantz2957]

In my PC building experience, I've found the mobo manufacturers do not test higher speed or higher amounts of RAM but the memory manufacturers do. So, after exhausting the mobo QVL, I do check the RAM manufacturer's compatability list (as they test their higher volume and higher speed RAM against these same motherboards). G.skill allows you to start with a cpu & mobo and see what they support - which I consider acceptable as I'm going back to the RAM manufacturer anyway if the RAM doesn't perform.

[@MattBruzdziak]

My new favorite tech channel. The humor and brutal honesty is great

[@qzorn4440]

hey kid and dad suff

[@randomxaos]

this is hilarious. My 2nd time here and I subscribed

[@DanielsGameVault]

I do not agree with snipping off the molex connector off the fan. As a client, I would not like that...

[@mass1985]

Yea, i would ask first.

[@pckiddy]

Could you some day do a video about your software toolkit ?

[@fragalot]

He did a video a three years ago where he does a routine service on a well-used (older) PC and attempts to tune up an old PC by using diagnostic software on his USB stick as well as going though windows settings to clean up the bit-rot. kzbin.info/www/bejne/jIWwn4efetSiqbM

[@technoklutz]

I can relate to this situation a few weeks back. Different motherboard and different sets of RAMs. All I can say is that always check manufacturer's QVL portion to avoid getting incompatible memory for your motherboard of choice. And as much as possible always check for warranty of the RAM and other components, make sure that there is at least a 2 week outright replacement warranty for any factory defects or whatsoever.

[@gontzi7]

Could you leave your usb drive with the testing software in like a zip folder or something? Looks kinda useful

[@ZeroLifts277]

yes u can

[@HuntersMoon78]

Google the software and download them.

[@RWL2012]

@@ZeroLifts277 not what was meant

[@ZeroLifts277]

@@RWL2012 sorry my bad

[@Straiferdt01]

@Green Eyed Bali Bule gimme link

[@sweedenburg]

Jesus. This is my first recommendation and it's 217? I've got a lot of catching up to do. This is EXACTLY what my inner IT guy needs to watch to relax (and fun to troubleshoot with you as you go!) The explanations are involved enough to keep me interested, but the fixes are still simple enough that I could comfortably direct friends and family to specific videos when I'm too busy or annoyed. Perfect! Also, anyone still hanging onto Molex (or defending it) should be ashamed.

[@Scuba_Bro]

I love this channel! So glad I found it and YT recommended it. Interesting and it’s good stuff to learn. Greetings from Boston, MA, USA

[@RVail623]

A check for a bios update should have been the first item on the "to do" list. The PSU appears to be oriented incorrectly: upside-down. Should be sucking fresh air from outside the case (if possible). The customer's two extra 120mm cooling fans attached to the PSU are also oriented in reverse direction, and are likely completely unnecessary: should simply be removed. Might also want to double-check the condition of the CPU thermal grease, since it appears to be a "home brew" machine.

[@klaasklapsigaar1081]

10:45 The way you unscrewed that fan while speaking so calmly has me in stitches. Meant no offense, I'm just a simple man. I love your videos!

[@nukeum9535]

in addition, my ocd on lobbing off the molex fan connector. we dont see covering the now semi-exposed wires that are just shoved in between the fan and case. better off tapeing or zip tie the molex up out of site.

[@spacecy]

lmao :D

[@sgt_retiredcharlie4102]

Adamant, Thanks for the in depth-ness of your thought process. I was glad that you told us which software you were using. I just checked my OLD Laptop's memory and GTX1060 GPU as well as the i7 CPU with some benchmarks and the stress test. It's still performing adequately, although old. Just wanted to thank you for your expertise. I used to have CompTIA Net+, Sec+, A+ and CCNA back in the early 2000's while I was in the Army, but I no longer do any of that stuff. I prefer to just watch all you youngsters doing it on YT. LOL

[@DJ-Daz]

Wow, it's nice to see someone else as professional as I was back in the 90's and 00's. All that tidying never solved a problem for me, but tidy cables and systems DON'T cause them either. I also like how you said you won't run memtest, then you change your mind. That's how fluid diagnostics has to be. If you aren't fluid then you've already made up your mind before you start working and you're almost certainly wrong. I worked with quite a few guys who thought like that, and their repairs always bounced back. I repaired thousands of PC's and only ever had 4-5 come back with the same fault. I had lots of people come back and ask for me though.

[@calvitocalvon1711]

Thousands? One a day for at least 6 years straight?

[@DJ-Daz]

@@calvitocalvon1711 lol one a day? I wish. More like 2-5 per day for 12 years. Multiple benches, multiple repairs.

[@calvitocalvon1711]

@@DJ-Daz jeez tons of experience, tell me some anecdotes!

[@DJ-Daz]

@@calvitocalvon1711 The longest repair was because it would lock-up after 2-4 hours. Before that it was fine. It took nearly a week to fix due to the length of time between lock-ups. It was the soundcard in the end. We had a batch (bloody hundreds of the buggers) of Maxtor HDD's (40GB) that had dodgy firmware and would corrupt the fat. Updating the firmware worked but the number of returns was huge. I've NEVER bought a Maxtor HDD because of it. Strangely it took weeks to months before the fat was destroyed. I spoke to a guy and removed 2 pins from a phone cable (RJ11) because it would cause all the phones to ring as soon as it was plugged in. I promised him it would work fine now. He was polite and insisted he just wanted the cable to work, then just before he left he gave me a business card... He was also called Darren and worked at the regional Trading Standards office. He called me back the next day and said it worked and thanked me again. I once had to go to court over a laptop that wouldn't run a TV repair database (worth hundreds), the owner was told several times this cheap-ass laptop would struggle with it and even the company that made the DB software told him it wouldn't work. We called them too. He wanted a refund. He got a refund and compensation to buy a better machine! I have never, and I mean NEVER heard of anyone ever using the CDROM tray as cup holder. There's a lot more I'm sure, but it was nigh on 15 years ago.

[@calvitocalvon1711]

@@DJ-Daz hahahahahah this was amazing to read ! Id love to hear more add me on discord Calvo#4120 oh man

[@keithwhisman]

I’m surprised you didn’t reseat the memory modules and graphics card. Reseating is something I always start with. I must admit I was expecting a clogged up cooling system. I had a customer tell me his computer wouldn’t run for more than a couple minutes. I took the panel off and found the intake fans fully blocked by dirt and hair. The CPU HSF was clogged with dirt and hair as well. A little cleaning had his computer up and running. Had to give him a class on cleaning his computer.

[@gweedo2009]

doing a bios update. will probably fix it cause they update the qualified memory list

[@brad68]

It was already on the latest bios.

[@stuartm5745]

At 29:56 you said "It's a shame we don't have a counter to see how far we've got to go." IntelBurnTest provides that information while it's running the tests and it's strange you don't see it. At the same time stamp (29:56) on the top bar of its window it says "23 of 100".

[@Eaglesky1]

He is more worried bout the fixing.. than the counting.. : ) .. wish is kool.. exacly what i expect from a "tec.".. * * * * *

[@stuartm5745]

Repairing is about observing and taking notice of what is in front of you.

[@StefanHolmes]

3200MHz on a lower end board with Zen+ is definitely hit and miss. If this were a Ryzen 3600, I suspect there wouldn’t have been any errors.

[@yotoprules9361]

I had the same problem even on X470 with Zen+.

[@devilmaster73]

I had the exact same issue. Random crashes, and a few google searches brought me to this vid. Gigabyte 450 M board, Gskill 3200 ram that was on the supported list. Did the mem test, got the same results, dropped the profile to 3000 and no issues since. Thanks for this vid!

[@saintuk70]

50k subs by tomorrow or early in the week. Well deserved.

[@lnteI]

Great video, i would strongly suggest to always check QVL for new builds, it can prevent a lot of issues, especially with XMP enabled.

[@jackwhitman9278]

When I built my PC, XMP was causing game crashes but no bluescreens. I ran a USB boot memtest and found tons of errors with XMP switched on, it ended up being that I was using slots 1 and 3 instead of slots 2 and 4. I thought that the memory sticks just had to be offset for dual-channel, but it turns out that the slots can matter too!

[@marko2262]

Same problems :)) but i put IT in 1 and 3 slots , in 2 and 4 IT crashes

[@budgetking2591]

Putting in the CPU power cable is sometimes the toughest thing of the whole build, there is just no space with certain combo's of case+mobo's, can be very frustrating.

[@yotoprules9361]

Especially with large air coolers...

[@tripsix2186]

Great video and troubleshooting, takes me back to my days as a computer tech. Thank you!

[@snarkymcsnarkles3493]

MDSCHED works perfectly fine as a windows memory tool

[@zomaardan]

Homeless guy trying to learn a job just finding your uploads and i love them. Thank you ill be supporting you where i can.

[@teardowntherapy9666]

I am grateful for your videos, keep up the good work :) I know it is not easy to record and especially edit a video.

[@MrHowardMoon]

I'm having this issue when I play games on my PC. I thought it was the PSU, but after looking into my motherboard QVL, my single 8GB Samsung DIMM is not supported and is running at 1600MHz. I've switched the DIMM to run at 1333MHz which is what a lot of budget 4th gen boards used. If this doesn't work, I'm leaning back towards the power supply.

[@MrHowardMoon]

Looks like mine is having a PSU issue as running the memory at 1333MHz didn't work.

[@Arek_R.]

Can you make a video on your toolkit pendrive, what you have, what each program is for and what you use it for, some examples which one might come in handy etc. I want to make one myself as I often find myself download programs too often and would be nice to have it all ready on a pendrive especially that I have 256GB EDC.

[@tiny789]

love your enthusiasm i didnt' understand most of what you were talking about. but you have a great demeanor awesome to watch an expert at work.keep it up

[@sd1rager]

I was having issues once with updates not taking and instability. Turns out my memory wasn't seated 100%. After I fixed it and figured it out that feeling is amazing.

[@cliffharrington6500]

Thanks Adam, very helpful video, I'm starting to get my head around computer tech a little better these days thanks to content like this.

[@rijaja]

"hey i had a molex connector hanging out of my fan after plugging the 3 pin too!" -me, when it was pointed out "wow that psu tray looks kinda familiar" -me, seconds later "lmao that looks like the aerocool logo" -me, a little bit later "oh we have the same case" -me now

[@johnDingoFoxVelocity]

Ok I gots lots of questions. 1. Most DDR 4 ram is labeled 1.35v so isn’t under voltaging your ram going to damage the ram and slow down performance 2. Windows 10 update 2004 actually causes certain main boards to crash with ryzen and not function at all this includes gigabyte and asrock boards as well. 3. After updating did you try to run a program to verify if the problem truly went away because with the new 2004 windows update the update causes gpu failures parked platters on peoples hard drives and even worse damages ram as well.

[@zx8401ztv]

From the start i mistrust memory, i would have put one strip in only (if it allows that) and do a test, then swap for the other one. The usb double up was unbelievable, what a stupid mistake. I know nothing about modern super wizzbang gaming machines, i'm an old git :-D

[@seldom_seen_kid]

I just built my first pc for FS2020 after a break of around 12 years so obviously YT has recommended your channel, after the fact I might add. Great content, wish I had discovered your channel sooner. Anyway, I thought I had done quite a good job but I realise now that you'd probably think otherwise. The hanging molex connector is a case in point. Maybe that could be a series theme where you critique people's builds in your brutally honest way. It would be an interesting learning experience. 👍🏻

[@omgilovesteak6484]

I have one of my extra fans connected to a molex. "shrug" it is fine for that one i have.

[@Matlockization]

I'm surprised at how methodical you are at fixing these computers. I originally had a Gigabyte mobo then switched to Asus.

[@neokhan22]

hi, can u disclose ur toolkit? i need to download, can u give us link?

[@Adamant_IT]

It's a hecking mess right now, filled with loads of random stuff I don't use anymore... but I think a good tidy up is in order. I'll stick it on my video ideas list!

[@steso8979]

@@Adamant_IT btw, u can see how far it got in the Titlebar of Intelburntest.. 23/100 30:00 (when its running)

[@stebrad123]

You spent some time on that machine Graham !! , very thorough diagnostics /testing. I've also found XMP causes many issues, especially on Gigabyte boards. I don't get many actual failures on Gigabyte boards but they've been twitchy with the XMP feature for donkeys years. I like watching your videos and analytical thought process. Good to see there are some fellow techies out there with the same very professional approach to the role as me. Keep up the good work, good guys in this industry will always build a successful business and good loyal following.

[@Those_Weirdos]

“Nobody uses Molex for fans”->plans to destroy customer property->discovers customer uses Molex for fans.

[@Straiferdt01]

If he was a professional he would've called the owner to inform him

[@SuperLuigiGuy64]

@@Straiferdt01 But he is a professional. Everyone makes mistakes.

[@steve64464]

Thinking im gonna go chop off all my molex fans now to see if that improves performance.

[@r100curtaincall]

Yeah in no world should have ever cut that off. There are plenty of other solutions.

[@steve64464]

@@r100curtaincall I prob would of put some heatshink around it and secured it with small zip tie or something, Permanent damage/modifications to components are not good. plus if the cut is not entirely clean you may have a small bit of exposed copper at the end of the cable which could be pushed up against case body or components that are pointy in shape.

[@nhguapo]

Nicely done video - subscribed. Nice calm voice. I love no loud music. Easy to hear. Easy to follow. Seems like Ryzen builds are always having an issue with RAM. I tried dropping 3600 mhz into my B350. It took a while to diagnosis the issue - could run XMP, but had to drop it back in click to 3533. After that it was stable.

[@tobiasit1743]

sometimes you need higher voltage on the memory for xmp ✌🏻

[@TobyIKanoby]

Yeah, I have had an issue where for some reason I couldn't save the right voltage, it always defaulted to 1.20, very annoying and a lot of restarts and power cycling. In the end some how it did save 1.35. Anyway, I did some research about this particular board and RAM problems, and a common solution for XMP problems seemed to be giving it a little bit more voltage. I didn't need it in the end, so I am not sure it works.

[@spakentruth]

@@TobyIKanoby XMP is better disabled if you're running into issues. A lot of games like red dead redemption 2 on PC and applications that are memory hungry dont play well with XMP

[@TobyIKanoby]

@@spakentruth I don't have issues with XMP, my motherboard had because it didn't want to save the right voltage in the BIOS, for some reason it eventually did and everything works just fine now. Do you have any references for "a lot of games" having issues with XMP? Because that sounds like BS to me, at least in the way I buy games, 1 or 2 years after release, when they have a reasonable price and the game is actually finished and optimized.

[@RJARRRPCGP]

@@spakentruth That's a symptom of the RAM being unstable. It may be due to Vdroop for the VDIMM.

[@bacardimonk]

Must thankyou for this video @Adamant IT . Built this ryzen 2700x system last Dec and been having intermittent shutdowns pretty much from day 1. at first I thought it was ram, then Power supply, then the Old GPU. replace all 3 and still had the same thing happening. Turns out it Was incompatible Ram for the CPU/MOBO combo. Had never tried the Intel Burn test before, tried it this evening and it immediately crashed the entire system, turning off XMP allowed it to do 4 passes before the system rebooted. checked with MSI and discovered that there were 4 revisions for my Bios, so downloaded the latest bios and updated it, and my computer just did the full 100 passes running in XMP set at 2933mhz on the incompatible Corsair Vengeance LPX memory, and although rated at 3200hz I am happy its working now, but when I get payed next month I will invest ion some ram that IS compatible with this CPU/MOBO . and I found this out just by watching your very useful video so again tyvm

[@RidinWithMyLocsOn]

7:47 "I have not installed anything" -- Yes, you installed the .net 3.5 framwork.. Not having the frameworks installed might be something that could be the reason games are crashing the computer :P

[@Snowcrash777]

Valid observation but a false conclusion. Not having the proper .NET Framework would even just bring you to the dependency screen he got. It's the "magic" of Microsoft's "compatibility" lol! If you need a .NET Framework it's supposed to be checked for by the games you install that have .NET dependencies. It won't crash a game without it but it will keep a game from even executing.

[@FullMetal-Tech]

Actually with today's CPU's having the memory controller built in, the FSB runs at the same rate as the ram. So anything that is above the CPU's FSB ( 2933mhz ) is essentially overclocking the CPU. So to work around that you need to increase the SoC voltage, but not by much at all! OR! manually set the ram speed to match the FSB of the CPU.

[@RJARRRPCGP]

For Ryzen, that would mean an Fclk and Uclk of 1466.5, which I'm not sure that AMD supports, while AMD does support 1500, which if sync, the RAM will be at 3000.

[@Adamant_IT]

Lots of people asking for my Software Toolkit - it's currently a mess and not really fit for sharing, but I'll get it tidied up and do a brief video on it to explain what I generally use. Keep an eye out!

[@andrewpeacock8762]

I would say, instead of sharing 'Your toolkit', you would do better creating the video you mentioned Saying what you use and why you use it, but then providing links to the websites where viewers can download directly While at the time of releasing the video, Its likely any package you put together will be up to date, any viewers who find this video later down the line may end up with out of date software, Giving links to the software websites ensures your viewers are getting the most up to date version. For Example, Most Tech folks will have a set of Graphics Drivers in their toolkit, These can at times be updated weekly, and therefore any 'packaged up' sets will get old real quick!

[@Rithius3485]

I would love to know about your toolkit! I do fix computers on the side and have a small toolkit of my own, but I'm always looking for more, and I like the looks of the things that you have in yours! Can't wait to see that video.😀

[@guily6669]

I think Hiren's Boot will cover almost everything you need.

[@ronguin7062]

YES! all us closet geeks want a peek at your batman utility drive!

[@rickjohnson2115]

@@guily6669 And yet it hasn't been updated in over 2 years.

[@theelegantred4264]

This video fixed my problem as well (out of the box my mobo was OC'ing my CPU to 4.76 Ghz ) and I wouldn't have found/fixed it if not for Adamant IT. THANK YOU!!!!!

[@sevigon]

Is no one going to talk about the power supply's fans blowing directly into the PC? Is this The Verge's PC?

[@rickjohnson2115]

No. And if you think (really) about it: it's not worth talking about.

[@donixion4368]

If you see an error on memtest 86, it is always always always a good idea to spend time checking the Ram modules. First, reseat modules then try new modules. Even if you solve the failure by disabling XMP, it can still signal a ram issue that will pop up later.

[@mynameisray]

Only 7 minutes in and I already know the problem.. He has Epic Game Store installed...

[@oddity4650]

Yes Fortnite closes a lot

[@williamfernandez5170]

In was a a bench tech in my younger years, 1000s of computers under my belt. This is money well spent, great job.

[@randomxaos]

huh?

[@NoRRyRaMpaGe]

what the heck are those 2 fans doing on the shroud? dragging in air from no where haha looks like the screws were drilled into the shroud aswel xD

[@mctooch]

Maybe they extra? Lol i have no idea either

[@thegreatoutagesign9204]

Yeah, came with the case. I did the same thing, just so my drive has that extra bit of cooling because they get pretty toasty.

[@gorjy9610]

many cases have mounts for fan(s) there. They obviously can't move air directly from outside but idea is that since lowest fan on front side push air under shroud these fans will move that air up to graphics card and/or (depend of card length) chipset, ram or disks.

[@revingtosh]

Great channel - i love the content. Im a professional repairer myself - if theres some weird hardware fault going on, then i usually zoom in on ram firstly and rule that out. Failing that, cpu, heatsink & fan & paste normally follow when theres something dicky going on which seems heat related. Bios and drivers are a give too. Good luck with your expansion plans - i work full time in IT looking after data centre stuff (AD, Sccm, VDI etc) im lucky enough to have space at home to run my repair side gig with little overheads, so i feel your pain mentioned in the other vid. Best of luck for the future!

[@BDz-ho8lg]

This PC looks just horrible... Jesus Lord have mercy...

[@markjones2349]

Not everyone is loaded. Probably plays fortnite and minecraft.

[@unnamed715]

Seriously? Aside from the hack sawed exhaust fan it looks pretty clean to me compared to the absolute gems I've seen lol I've seen people mounting their liquid cooler radiator on the _outside_ of their case! xD

[@johnhanson4795]

im 58 and have been a hardcore pc gamer since the mid 80s.I have always built my own stuff and has cost me a fortune and alot of girlfriends over the years not sure that was a good decision closet full of old stuff but love your videos and the focus you have on fixing computers.

[@IamUzyf]

Found the problem: FartNight EpicGayStore fUplay

[@shaggystarlord4740]

Just an amateur here, but very interesting to see how you work and good that you explain how you think. My new favorite channel.

[@crazy8sdrums]

I would have stress tested it initially with the side panel on. The way those fans were set up would have resulted a dead air area right at the CPU heatsink. Having the panel off would have actually made it easier to breathe.

[@samorisystems6604]

Just by reading comments without even going through the video I removed the ram sticks and it worked, Thank you!

[@0Wayland]

Asrock B450M Pro4 has been a really solid budget board for me. Micron E-die runs 3600 Mhz at tight timings and they've been really good with BIOS updates.

[@wilwordsworth]

Given the sloppy build I would have inspected the ram modules for corroded sweaty fingerprints. I would have remounted the CPU for the same reason. Oh and put a magnifying glass on the back of the obviously forced 8 pin EPS connector looking for dry joint ring of death. Anyhoo you did well for a yung'un. Well done.

[@johngoard8272]

Very informative about the XMP settings as I never could work out what was meant by it all.

[@martinglasgow1219]

I methodologically went through all the rudimentary checks and even reprogrammed the BIOS chip and eventually found the culprit to be a faulty case reset button so I just removed the reset connector from the front panel header pins, job done.

[@kainenable]

Nice video, I have been building computers for over 20 years. I like that you include your tools. I probably would have checked hardware, bios update, then other. You have more patience and experience than me.

[@stevec5586]

Excellent video. Just subscribed. I would have re-seated the memory modules, just in case a bit of contamination on a connector pin was affecting a signal. There's less safety margin at the top end of the performance range.

[@rickjohnson2115]

Contamination on a connector? What does that involve? A 100 year old computer in a post-nuclear war? Ugh, you people!

[@CaptainHightop]

I'd try bumping the ram voltage a little bit, up to like 1.4v. See if the 3200Mhz would be stable with the increased voltage.

[@hylomane]

Don't hate on molex connectors! They're better than the lousy SATA that gets loose over time and loses connection or bend and breaks bricking your hard drive.. Squeeze the wires sideways when plugging in molex connectors, they go in much easier.

[@haddz42]

I had the same issue with my Ryzen 5 2600 not supporting my 16gb 3600mhz RAM. Had to down clock it to 3200mhz until I could upgrade to a 3000 series ryzen. Love the content man. Keep up the great work 👍👍

[@paulius2107]

About the memory problem - if xmp setting wont work, you have to downclock it, and you know that the ram kit isnt working - increase the SoC voltage. Had the same exact problem, had to increase SoC voltage, it fixed. By the way, memory problem wont necessarily result in BSOD's.

[@themurphy8797]

New fav channel, came across it at random, I enjoy listening to logical thinking and someone who actually knows what they are doing , I approve

[@geraldeh7291]

Love these videos. I started building PCs back in the old 386 days. Much simpler back then but still always felt the cold hard sting of Murphy's law mess me up. I just started acquiring parts for a new build, purchased several new pairs of underwear and subscribed to this channel. lol

[@bigshmoneyRick]

Really happy YT decided to randomly recommend this to me. new sub inbound

[@EvilTurkeySlices]

Budget cases have molex on their fans because most budget motherboards only have one chassis fan header. I have also had no issues leaving the molex loose on these, if you are really worried, just put electrical tape on it.

[@majorsick]

Its the memory controller on the 2600 chip. The ram speed above 2133 is the actual issue. We use CoreTemp , Prime95 on small FFT, and Heaven bench for the graphics all off USB drive :)

[@crylune]

Weird, I just helped someone on Discord who had a Ryzen 5 3600, 16 GB of DDR4 3200 MHz same kit as in the video, and the same B450M DS3H motherboard. We tried setting lots of different timings, voltages, multipliers in the BIOS, and nothing worked. What we ended up doing is setting the timings and frequency in Ryzen Master and what do you know, RAM is finally running at 3200 MHz stable instead of 2133 MHz.

[@garycarter2522]

wow... I know very little about computers, so really informative and not to over the top with tech as I see in a lot of channels like this.

[@Viaexplore]

Sometimes it is just a memory controller which can't keep up under the hreavy load with bad BIOS auto voltage set up. Found out that in some cases rising the SOC vcore voltage from auto to something like 1.2V-1.25V fixes the issue with XMP fails. Sometimes it is also caused by LLC.

[@jonh1958]

Good info, got a similar issue. PC freezes up (usually when gaming) then screen goes blank. Going to work my way through these steps and see where I end up. Thank you for the pointers.

[@armedbobery4879]

Wow I haven't looked this up at all but follow a lot of tech channels and this came across as something I may like. Fate or something brought me to this channel! I use the same cpu and have a b450 msi gaming plus board and had the same issues. I have 3200 memory sticks installed and had a blue screen error all the time so I timed them back to 3000 and it stabilized but still crashed after about an hour or 2 playing mostly anything. I ran this burn test and found mine had the same error when running on xmp 3000 though. I toned it back to 2800 and it stopped but I wanted to try better. I found my bios was still on the original version so I updated and thankfully am able to at least run at 3000 now stable and passed this text 5 times now so I am satisfied. Very lucky to have you make videos like this and that I came across it. Keep it up!

I have an ASRock Fatal1ty X370 Gaming K4 that doesn't support DDR4 RAM speeds over 3000. BIOS updates haven't removed that limitation, it seems to be a hardware/memory controller limit. First gen ZEN motherboards were iffy when it came to RAM support, the 400 series improved a lot in that sense.

[@thiscouldntblowmore]

On my personal experience, XMP at 1,35v seldom is stable, at 1,4v they work fine. Ive had and have Ryzen computers with 1600, 2200G, 1700, 2600, 3600, 3900 and 3950 CPU's doesnt matter if its B350, B450, X370 or X570 MB and ive had bunch of them from ASUS, MSI and ASRock.

[@datguydim]

Good videos! What webcam is that in the case you use for video in the pc?

[@willaimkazer9754]

On the memory issue, You can test 1 memoey module at a time to check if one memory module has a issue. I was having issues with BSOD on a old DDR3 FX system. I isolated the one bad module with a version of memtest86 that was packaged with a Linux distro. I was able to find the bad module out of 4 of them with memtest86. This takes a lot of time.

[@xeanluxcrille6847]

In my case the PC shuts down when I'm NOT playing games. It runs completely fine as long as I keep Genshin Impact running in the background. It's so weird. Sometimes it restarts on its own, sometimes it shuts down completely, but most of the time it just hangs. One moment I'm browsing through KZbin, the next second, I find that the mouse is no longer moving. No input gets transmitted either not even from the keyboard. The screen just freezes there like a random screenshot. So when I noticed how it NEVER seems to get interrupted when I'm playing Genshin for 10 hours straight, I figured it probably has something to do with the gpu usage. I'm still not sure. Right now I just launch Genshin and lets it stay on the login screen while I go do some other stuff on the pc. But I cannot watch videos because Genshin's soundtrack overlaps and it's a pain to keep changing the game's settings for when I play and when I just run it in the background.

[@CasualRaz]

I've not read through all the comments but if Zen+ was like the original first gen Zen CPUs the Memory profile overclock would also put an overclock on the internal CPU SoC, it probably just needed a slight voltage uplift to the SoC specifically to land in the stable range

[@burnouttx2415]

Had similar issues with my AB350 Gaming mother board. It was fun figuring it out since my computer is a bit of a frankenstien to begin with. Parts from older machines cobbled together to make it work. Ended up that the system freezes and blue screens I was getting was due to memory errors from a bad stick and the BIOS battery was going bad and not storing the configuration when it rebooted. I had to keep on telling it what hard drive to boot from.

[@SquireLaet]

2 years old today!!! still rewatching this