Gaming with the 14900K under LIQUID NITROGEN - over 1000 FPS in CS2

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Outro:
Dylan Sitts feat. HDBeenDope - For The Record (Dylan Sitts Remix)
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Samples used in this video:
- ASUS components, RAM, CPU
Timestamps:
0:00 Intro
1:08 Retail 14900K overclocking on the Z790 Apex Encore
3:40 ... Cake Time
3:52 7.4 GHz = X FPS
5:10 Binned 14900K vs Counter Strike 2
7:27 Suitable for everyday use? & SSD cooler
9:41 Summary/conclusion
9:52 Outro

[@forbiddenera]

I remember being younger back when CPUs always increased in frequency every generation dreaming of 8 to 9ghz.. then we got stuck around 3ghz for like 15 years 😂

[@jamesfox2857]

3.2 on the first single core dual thread / dual core ( duo ) , and did not changee till 4 core cpu`s

[@sihamhamda47]

Well the highest clock speed ever recorded in history is not in processor, it's in atomic clock that clocks to 9,192,631,770Hz or 9.19GHz. And to achieve it, the temperature needs to be kept at no more than a couple degrees above absolute zero (-273 C)

[@eldorado3523]

Because you can solve the same problem you were trying to solve with higher CPU frequency, by using multiple cores. In terms of thermal management vs performance: "more slow cores" > "one faster core".

[@gamingwithgimel7978]

The main reason why cpus can't go much higher frequencies it's because of latency in digital logic. Those transistors need some time to change state (from 0 to 1 or vise versa) and some more time to make sure it stays in that state. If the clock speed is too fast, it might not be able to store that byte properly and will cause what we call a glitch. Thats why extreme overclocking needs a bit of luck, most of the time the computer just crashes under such extreme speed.

[@SomebodyHere-cm8dj]

​​​@@gamingwithgimel7978Also the end of Dennard scaling, causing processors to put out unmanageable amounts of heat, which is why liquid nitrogen etc are used in overclocking.

[@hydroponicgard]

This title reminded me of early-mid 2000s, where my friends told me "You should put fps_max 1000 to have your game run better" in CS 1.6. Good times :P

[@ATICrossX]

Back when 1000fps lock would make you fly on some custom cod2 multiplayer maps 😂 good times

[@enlightendbel]

Me of the late 90s and early 00s where you could do near double frequency overclocks on air.

[@andrej_sefcik]

​​@@enlightendbeleven q6600 on air 2.4 -> 3.5GHz

[@jesuschrist2284]

@@enlightendbel me in the 90s turning off textures and playing in black and white in quake cos fps

[@Kapono5150]

It didn’t take me long to realize “Stability” is way more important than “overclocking”

[@March1796]

Took me 9 months luckily I didn’t have any important data stored on it

[@fredygump5578]

Yes, you don't want to tip over your flask of liquid nitrogen! LOL

[@INFINITEShoobes]

Why not use dry ice? Maybe put on normal cpu heatsink but press dry ice against the heatsink Or just put the dry ice directly onto cpu

[@XxXnonameAsDXxX]

​@@INFINITEShoobesdry ice is not a fluid the heat transfer is bad

[@INFINITEShoobes]

@@XxXnonameAsDXxX ok thanks now i know

[@WayStedYou]

High shadows are because you can see shadows of players in cs2 if you lower them you dont get that advantage

[@silveiraalvino]

medium ambient occlusion too

[@__aceofspades]

Finally I can play CS2 without being held back by my hardware. I just need a 14900k and Derbauer to come over and do my overclocking.

[@NotAeroOnFortnite]

And stay there during all gameplay to pour liquid nitrogen kn your cpu 😂😂

[@Zvxers7]

​@@NotAeroOnFortnitechild labour exists for a reason

[@MarcYohannGaming69420]

@@Zvxers7 nah💀💀

[@EQBASS]

I have 650/700 fps with I7-13700KF [5.4 GHZ OC] & Rtx 4070 TI 😂

[@muhammadnaufalalauddin8522]

@@NotAeroOnFortnite HAHAHAHAHAHAHA🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@chrisfeaka4250]

Crazyneas!! Love watching you guys push those things to the max!

[@mste456]

awesome vid Roman! you remind of the excitement i used to have for when water cooling and tec cooling came out ghetto in the late 90's, good times

[@StatsGam4er]

I love your videos bro. And I love you !!! Keep it up !

[@ghdsds]

Great vid! i'd love to see some benchmark scores

[@jay_tarantula899]

Im holding back tears rn. Beautiful truely. 🥺

[@Glerox]

awesome video thanks!

[@floodo1]

That liquid helium run with the house fan blowing a solid white stream looked so funny (-8

[@JayzBeerz]

Thanks bro.

[@mrbenmush]

The irony of watching this video on my old overclocked XPS M1710 laptop make me happy. Liked.

[@itsdeonlol]

Cool benchmarks!

[@DarkPST]

8:13 Capoo is a popular cartoon character here in Taiwan and there are lots of collaboration product. Never thought I’ll see one on your channel though.

[@Alex.The.Lionnnnn]

Finally someone has made counterstrike playable! 😂😂

[@StaticVapour590]

Cannot wait to see benchmark scores

[@ironmaiden5658]

I remember when it was cool to get 75fps to max out the 75Hz CRT.

[@jakeman025]

Huh? Most of us were playing 1.3/1.5-1.6 on 100fps and 100hz on our CRT this was in like 2001-2004 I think what you meant was 75hz LCD which was like 2006/2007-2011/12 era then the first gen 120hz LCDs started coming out.

[@ironmaiden5658]

@@jakeman025 You must be young. In the 90s it was all about a 75hz CRT.. 85hz if you were really showing off.

[@HenrySomeone]

@@ironmaiden5658 Yup, in the 90s CRTs maxed out at 85Hz.

[@ironmaiden5658]

@@HenrySomeone Yep. I had 17"s of glory. haha.

[@jakeman025]

@@ironmaiden5658 oh my fault I thought since it was a counter strike video you were talking about monitors in correlation to that. In 1999-2001 I was on an 85hz CRT but like I stated in my comment around 2001/2002 is when I got my 19” black viewsonic that I played on 100hz but could actually go all the way up to 160hz

[@nicknorthcutt7680]

9 ghz is just bonkers, congrats to the Asus team

[@blackbirdpctech]

Great video … does thermal cycling with liquid nitrogen impact chip performance over time? So does the max overclock you can achieve go down with each attempt?

[@papac6831]

By Jupiter man thats Amazing, well done all.

[@marekciostek1458]

Now we need 1000Hz monitor :D

[@yamilmontes1365]

Okay this is something I think is really important for people to understand. Ring Cache clock on intel chips are kinda important when it comes to frametimes/frame consistency. The higher your ring cache clock, the faster your CPU can load/process data which means your frametimes will go down. Sometimes even gaining a couple FPS AND retaining the lower frame times. Overall it's definitely recommended to OC your ring cache to squeeze some consistency out your games.

[@damir3668]

Tell me more please. I oced my 14700k to 5.8 with 7000 mts ram on 34 44444 80 timings, but cache max I could go is 5000 mhz with +0.025 ring voltage offset this gave me more stable 1% lows, but I want more😅

[@yamilmontes1365]

@@damir3668 The i7's of 12, 13, and 14th gen are just shitty i9's. 5ghz ring is the max you can do

[@damir3668]

@@yamilmontes1365 so you think I9 with ecores disabled could go over 5 GHz LLC?

[@yamilmontes1365]

@@damir3668 If you disable E-Cores you *may* be able to do 5.1Ghz ring bus but it would take ridiculous amounts of voltage to do. Plus ring bus can crash in light loads easily

[@ideeAMxCC]

I don’t understand the funny names and numbers mentioned in this discussion.

[@legendarycinematics3091]

This is what I like to see I always wonder what the actual gaming performance of extreme overclocking is

[@LCTRgames]

Cool use of proprietary OC tools....such as the "Bugcat Capoo"

[@BansheeBunny]

Sometimes you just have to know how fast it can go. It looked like you were having fun. On the other side, I found a 9 year old 4790k with the stock Intel cooler and got a R23 score of 5262, for shits and giggles. It would be interesting to know the SP# for an average 14900k.

[@nono-oz4gv]

it's funny how the k version is often priced at more than double the regular version used.

[@benuten3907]

SP rating isn't really indicative of what the processor can do, it would only tell you the voltage it operates, which can be the start of your overclocking journey.. I have 2 samples of 13600k SP 84 and 85 respectively and the lower SP clocks better than the higher SP rated chip..also the IMC is better on the lower SP rated chip..

[@HifeMan]

I was able to get 4.8 ghz stable on my 3570K on air with a Noctua. :)

[@halflife82]

SP = 97 on my new 14900k. 6.2ghz all core with AI on the P cores and it’s crazy fast. Custom water loop

[@roidrage4897]

How many watts did the CPU draw?

[@fabrb26]

14900K is around 1.8fps per watt stock, 1.9 overclocked with power limit removed, but that still 5.5Ghz all cores on chart i found. Let's say we double that since it's 1000+ well 4fps/watt. ... 250Watts maybe 300 or 400 worst case

[@robertlawrence9000]

Pretty cool! I wonder how much better the KS version will be. It would be interesting to see that too.

[@ExperimentalKana]

derbauer is back

[@shaneseward7139]

Nice! 10GHz here we come! Thanks for the excellent content as always. :)

[@pimpchimpin3472]

Hell yea we should be able to reach 10 ghz if intel releases 15th gen with the 2 nm architecture although it will still have to be very good silicon. People think 14th gen was a bad generation but it wasn't for extreme over clockers as the 14900k reached 9044 mhz which is 510 mhz faster than the 13900ks record.

[@chadharpicenjoyer8591]

Now i can finally play that cake baking game Lets goo

[@n.p_frm1000]

What a bummer this was filmed before 14900ks

[@spencerwaters5962]

Am I correct in noticing you had hyperthreading and the e cores active whille the cpuz results shown for asus getting to 9.0 shows hyperthreading and e cores disabled? Look at the cores and threads readout on cpuz

[@hezilahmed5518]

bro im feeling cold 🥶

[@Darkwhisper441]

Very surprised your not using your frame on the motherboard. Seeing how they make a difference.

[@88luda88]

Imagine a relaxing 4 hour liquid nitrogen League session after work. -45 system hangs -House frozen -House on fire

[@sergentboucherie]

It’s not even 8am here and now I want cake

[@custume]

9 Ggz, jesus that is high, your score is also really good Roman, nice work

[@ChrispyNut]

8:56 I'm probably not the first and certain won't be the only, but .... IT'S OVER NINE THOUSAND!!!! 🤯🤯🤯

[@LA-MJ]

It's over 9000!

[@RocketRenton]

Phenomenal

[@EyesOfByes]

So... With 8Ghz, can we finally play OG Crysis 1 level Ascension in 120fps?

[@nono-oz4gv]

lol no

[@ICANHAZKILLZ]

Tested this exact thing last year, my friend was pouring ln2 while I tried to run ascension on the 6950X. Hit like 96fps iirc then the 4090 hydro'd lol (it's fine now)

[@Apollo-Computers]

​@@ICANHAZKILLZhydro'd?

[@velo1337]

couldnt you lasso obs to the ecores?

[@phobos1963]

Don't forget to vent that room. Liquid N2 isn't disappearing, it's still here, replacing O2

[@hayleyxyz]

I love BugCat Capoo! 8:10

[@AyroZz]

How did you manage to OC your 14900k to 6ghz with an AIO ?? Can you make a guide guide to do that please ?? =)

[@pirojfmifhghek566]

This is probably a dumb question, but has anyone been able to build a vacuum chamber with an LN2 pot on top so that no humidity builds up on the motherboard and socket? I know a lot of components are designed to be naturally air-cooled, and the vacuum would make that problematic, but if the top plate with the LN2 pot covers the entire motherboard and makes contact with those components through a combination of thermal pads/thermal grease and non-electrically conductive substrates, maybe there's a way to make such a thing into a repeatable, adjustable design? Seems expensive, yes, but this is extreme overclocking we're talking about. I just think it would be interesting if overclocking to this level was no longer limited by the ice buildup.

[@radugrigoras]

Can’t do liquid nitrogen in a vacuum, it would boil way too quickly and your vacuum would now be very pressurized. Just so much easier to grease the mobo, more satisfying as well to lather it nice and thick. Have to remember these are for world records with freely supplied parts, it’s like top fuel drag racing, the expectation is that something or everything will be broken and garbage when you’re done. If it ain’t, you didn’t go hard enough.

[@ClaytonMacleod]

What happens with that Delta2 cooler if you actually run workloads using all cores? Does it just heat soak very quickly and just go into constant thermal protection? I wish someone made one with enough capacity to max out the CPUs.

[@theb4r138]

Next gen of esports one person plays while the other pours liquid nitrogen. Let’s go!

[@richardgarrett2792]

Did i miss the power draw numbers? Thanks in advance.

[@s1ngularityxd64]

Solange man auf die Wärmepumpe wartet, muss die Bude ja irgendwie warm werden 😁

[@iliasiosifidis4532]

So do we NEED a "Bugcat Nvme gen 5 cooler" or not?

[@Keebz.G]

is hyperthreading off during this kind of overclocking ?

[@JosephLachh]

Cooling my computer: *liquid nitrogen* Cooling my SSD: *Tiny Fan with a cute little cat on it*

[@GunzGunzGunz157]

can you ln cool and overclock a gpu?i know that a lot of them are oc locked but with the right equipment could you oc the cpu and gpu at the same time?

[@poonsdxpfodpf814]

Yes

[@427cidpower]

What kind of power consumption did it have?

[@crispyone2564]

Your video showing how weak the corsair pumps were really opened my eyes. I also noticed that their radiators have weak flow because they dont have end tanks. I took them out of my massive custom loop and went up 25% on flow. Why don’t they have end tanks?

[@GeekRock65]

When can we purchase the MYCRO DIRECT-DIE for the 1700 socket??

[@Orthaluminox]

Alright I wanna see that thing under full load with every setting maxed out at 4K. How many frames I need to know

[@robinfr93]

What about condensation caused by air forming ice crystal, its gonna turn to water when melted and ruin the components, right ?

[@uputku]

id love to have this as my normal performance pc lol

[@Haleskinn]

where can i download the shamino work tool?

[@OneCosmic749]

I want to remind people once again that you still benefit from high Hz monitor even if your system can't reach such FPS, also you benefit from running the game at higher FPS than your monitor Hz even if it's a 360Hz monitor because you are reducing input lag either way - most people run monitor unsynced

[@feltZi]

i had in csgo around 500-700fps with my 12600k which was nice since i have 360hz monitor it worked out well, but now that cs2 is out or has been out for a while, im doing like 200-300fps mostly hovering around 270, i had to order new cpu :D had itch to build all white system so imma do that now aswell

[@TheChiro2000]

Yeah cs2 cut fps in half...

[@Eduardoae4318]

G.G

[@laserspike]

Hope those rooms are always well ventilated when doing the LN2/LHe runs! 😉

[@dandnub149]

Do you think you can over clock an intel 14 700kf to 6ghz ?

[@user-gx8qm4mn2x]

Why weren't the graphics settings shown?

[@qT_p13]

No cats. This video is therefore non-canon.

[@yulpark9299]

what hardware monitoring software is he using?

[@EinSwitzer]

Showed cpus are on their tails right there almost peak usage both ways

[@DIYTech21]

Just a question if we remove all the stickers from nvme would it help lower temps. Considering its like a small blanket over everything

[@juku619]

Nah, they transfer heat

[@mystery_1101]

@@juku619 inside the sticker has thermal pads...

[@Lucasbrlvk]

Wow

[@jordanmntungwa3311]

I'm imagining a scene in a movie where a group of gamers find themselves trying to take down an evil corporation and its evil plan of world domination but they have limited hardware so they have to overclock their CPU's with liquid nitrogen in order to get enough computing power to hack some super computer inside the evil HQ and disable the launch of the evil products about to distributed around the world to unsuspecting tiktokers

[@peckop1793]

That's actually a decent plot

[@redsnow846]

der8auer , can you do a video with a 14900k with a really good memory controller that can do ddr5 8000 and compare it to the best samsung b-die ddr4, like some dual rank 2x16gb 14-14-14-30 4000 gear 1. Like go all out and see where it leads? The 14900k is the last K SKU CPU that will be capable of using DDR4. Please and Thanks.

[@mit4c]

wastn that northwood celeron also OCed to 7ghz something more than 10 years ago :D

[@DabbinDosa]

I have no idea but it seems legit 🤣

[@MerkDolf]

😄 👍 👌

[@21stcenturypleb]

Finally I can use my 1000 FPS screen

[@sannyassi73]

We'll soon be in the double digits Ghz wise with Liquid Nitrogen. It'll be neat to finally see 10Ghz, that's kind of nuts to think about.

[@abelolsen9656]

For cooling the CPU, do you have to pour liquid nitrogen like that? How about attach a pump from the container, that you pour out from and let it pump slowly or with 3 second pump and 5 second hold interval to maintain consistent flow of liquid nitrogen?

[@Dixxi]

Can't pump it, it will freeze anything it touches.

[@AxTROUSRxMISSLE]

Pressure buildup is also a factor if I had to guess

[@utubekullanicisi]

Kingpin used to do it, and he overclocked the GPU at the same time, it was a completely integrated system and you only had to change the LN2 tank once it ran out, and it was designed to be able to run for hours without condensation issues There's a video of it on KZbin.

[@radugrigoras]

You don’t need to pump it, it pumps itself out of the tank, you could have the hose right off of the tank pouring into the pot and control the flow with the valve, but it’s less fun.

[@shelby_raj]

i just searched for how to overclock beginner guide

[@jimbodee4043]

Very important to have overclocking cake 🍰😅

[@dcdenton6859]

CPU cooling before 2010: air coolers CPU cooling 2011-2024: water cooling CPU cooling after 2024: liquid nitrogen

[@ChairmanMeow1]

When I was a kid I overclocked my shitty Cyrix CPU from 200Mhz to 266. Silly yea, but it really started my love of computers and overclocking

[@ekspatriat]

coming from only knowing so much is it possible to unlock a 4090 and rig up liquid nitrogen cooling for it too?

[@yourlocalit1701]

Volt limited by nvidia so you can't

[@tonep3168]

May I ask why you use OBS to capture and not a hardware solution? Surely you would gain the same level of extra performance from going to hardware capture than from tweaking memory sub timings?

[@sebilsever8961]

I was thinking the same. He is trying to get more performance by using ln2 and also using obs lol :D

[@fuzzydark1395]

44°C on a 4090 at 100% load is crazy

[@paulhellyer4518]

AMD Fluid Frame Generation over the top of that would have been quite amusing :)

[@samohraje2433]

Ah yeah peltier cooling. I was running on peltier modules actually. The loop was simple straight forward, i was using two 240mm copper radiators and where the inlet for the cpu block was, there were 4 allu blocks connected in series with 8 peltiers 100W each. I was so concerned about this that i pour an antifreeze solution in the loop but i7 4790K running at 5.5GHz get 60c max and actually it was way too much and i killed that cpu within a few months of using it like so. I bought another one cpu and another 2 blocks for peltiers and peltiers itself and temps are looking pretty good this time.. 1200W of peltier cooling is too weak for the even more power hungrier cpu. And that's where the RICHTIG klimaanlagekompressor kicks in and even two gtx 1080Ti plus i7 8700K under load 15c max.

[@Hito343]

Alright we need a GPU nitrogenblock haha.

[@MrGeesikser]

Its time to put 4090 under LN.

[@EinSwitzer]

Why don’t we overclock the e cores

[@acaglia1]

hi there, someone have those .bat ? like the "move_cvf" and "kill_services" I want to read the lines and what it has inside, thanks

[@InternetListener]

Can it beat an RTX 4060 at Blender?

[@MO-ue4mu]

Haha thus video is fun

[@Kruk1975]

So technically we don’t need new CPU’s we just need new coolers that can run 9ghz normally and keep the processor cool

[@jalllaaavg]

I always have a big grin throughout these videos, just look at 8:50 remind yourself that this is about delicate tinkering and not some Frankenstein monster powerup

[@jalllaaavg]

Come to think of it that might be a better descriptor

[@Apollo-Computers]

Ehh not as delicate as you would think. I was a bit scared the first time I did ln2, but it's a blast and nothing really to worry about.