Gamo Swarm MAXXIM .177 VS Gamo Swarm MAXXIM .22 - Side By Side Comparison

[@gladegoodrich2297]

Love my 10 shot Gamo Swarm. First bought a Umerex Octane nitro piston? After 50 shots the gas leaked out and it wouldent shoot any more. Took back to Cabela and they told me to call Umarex. Called and they said probably couldent help me. If I wanted to take it apart and ship it to them they would look at it. Put it in the corner and bought a Gamo. That's my story and I'm sticking to it. BUY THE GAMO!!!!

[@kaylamarie8309]

You're not missing with the .177, the pellets are falling out of the mag and you're shooting air. I've learned to hear the difference. I have both the .22 and the .177 swarm Maxxims as well and I have this same issue with the .177. Gamo even sent me a replacement 10X system for mine which I put on the gun and the same thing persists. The plunger in the reloader seems to be just a bit too short to seat the pellet fully into the .177's breach. I actually have a customer support entry with Gamo as of today about this and I'm waiting for them to reply to me. Look around and you'll find mashed up pellets on the ground that were crushed between the barrel breach and the rear portion of the rifle. Great video

[@davidgiles9751]

Is that just an issue with the .177 model? I'm looking into buying a Swarm Fusion 10x Gen 2 in .22 cal.

[@kaylamarie8309]

@Isaac Yoo Maybe..I just know I had issues with mine like that. My .22 swarm is fine. I still have the .177 Swarm so maybe I'll come up with something. There's probably a certain pellet that will work well in it.

[@Kornflakes12]

@@kaylamarie8309 I’m having the same problem had the same problem with my ruger air hawk but it’s only doing it with the cheap daisy pellets never with my premiere cross man ones

[@kaylamarie8309]

@@Kornflakes12 yep..some of these guns are really picky when it come to pellet selection that's for sure!

[@imgumby6378]

I had the same problem on my .177 maxxim. Figured out it was the pellets. Crosman premier piranha fall right out but the pointed crosman pellets work perfect.

[@MrPolleyr]

Really enjoyed your comparison. I’ve been trying to decide on wether to get the .177, or the .22 cal rifle. I was impressed with the accuracy of the 22 cal. Probably the slower velocity helps with that, plus it’s a bit lighter to handle. I do have some critters around my property, so I think the 22 will be the one for me. Thank you, this really helped.

[@corygrone9324]

117 will take a 60lb coyote with one snap to the head from 50 meters

[@Loiczzr]

In my whisper (177) the Kodiak 10.63 gr are very accurate. You need to buy/try bunch of different ammo/weight to see what it likes.

[@alanspring8462]

Just received my 22 caliber Gamo swarm Magnum and oh my talk about power ,it is the king of all my air rifles. Right through a spruce pine 2 by 4. Thanks again for your very interesting videos my friend.

[@badmoonrising209]

@Rolly101 177 are lighter pellets so the are faster and the 22 cal is heavier so it is slower, but at the same time it the 22 does alot more damage

[@tomblount5635]

I purchased this sir rifle for fun shooting. I installed a 22 cal rifle scope on it. I could not get good groups. I replaced it with a 3X9 variable air force scope. After locking it down and shooting groups I zeroed it at 35 yards. It drives tacks with the gamo red 17 7 pellets. I can knock the heads off sparrows at 35 yds. At 50 yards I'm penetrating slider shells. I am very impressed with this air rifle. It is very accurate!! 😍

[@brianmerryman8300]

my swarm maxxim .177 LOVES gamo redfires. they group decent. only issue i find is they are pass threw pellets, they pass threw squirrels

[@jaakkooksa5374]

Some pellets have extremely poor accuracy in my 4.5mm Gamo, the pellets might easily go 10cm off the target at 30 meters, while others are just fine. The ones that I have tried and which work well in my Gamo are Gamo Match Classic and Gamo Pro Magnum. Both are very inexpensive pellets, about one euro cent (or dollar cent) per each.

[@danielk8149]

Try crosman premier hollow point is 6 or 7 per 500 rounds usd available on Amazon . and i get great groups with the rest placed well

[@johnwooard73corvette80]

That’s crazy , my 177 groups perfect , 30 shots in one hole with red fires . Won’t do it anything else . I did have trouble with the scope . I called Gamo and they sent another at no charge to me . I couldn’t ask for more .best rifle I own .

[@megastick9324]

My bull whisper loves the red fires also. 30yds, no wind, cover them with a nickel on most days, a quarter any day. As to the scope, I replaced mine with a BSA with AO and and a better mount. it’s night and day different.

[@geason77]

That 10 shot clip is life changing. I have the 22. Cal Gen 2. Super fun.

[@jamesb1988]

I have both versions of the Maxxim Gen 2 Rifles, and they are both deadly accurate, especially the .177. I would recommend swapping out the Gamo scopes for Hawke AO 3-9x40 scopes, they are about 110 USD a piece, but they are far and away the best budget scope you can get. Also as far as the pellets, I would recommend either domed or hollowpoint for best accuracy.

[@milesstover3724]

if you get a magnum Gamo , id recommend not putting any variable magnification scopes on it. My 2 magnums have destroyed 4 scopes between them now. Ive switched over to fixed magnification scopes for those, and now it seems to be ok

[@abelflores3752]

I’ve never had much luck with accuracy in break barrels, that is until I bought a Ruger 22, it does pretty good

[@james44mag31]

Now i've got two rugers both terrible

[@chaiyang4092]

The best pellet for the air gun .177 which I like is the flat heads only. It’s most accurate for shooting birds squirrel and rabbits. If you don’t want to miss your shots please try this

[@dmo848]

Dome also here

[@waltershumate5777]

I had an 890 Hunter in .22 and it always liked Crossman pellets.

[@lutherrhein7697]

one thing must be considered and that is what type or brand of ammos you gonna use with .177 or .22. you gonna need to try several brands and will see that actually .177 may be better than the .22 in terms of accuracy and range as well as the kill.

[@davidedgar2818]

Light pellets tend to stray especially.177 I use the heavy Ruger blacks in my.177 Gamo they do great. I use them in my.22 Benjamin and can pick dove size bird targets at 75 to 100 yards standing shot no bracing.

[@specialed1942]

Gamo owes you. I bought the Maxxim and Magnum G2 .22. I’m really loving that Maxxim because of the ease of cocking but there is nothing like the slam of the Magnum. Thanks for all the vids you do.

[@ravenshield7823]

I love those targets, 5 separate bulls eyes, I like to shoot the diamonds around the bulls and you have all the 1 inch squares to shoot and line bisections to target as well. it's at least 100 targets in one, the numbers on the border. My favorite.

[@Rucksack57]

always check the screws before shooting. Make sure every thing is tight. The breech screw also.

[@XJOCK69]

.177 Swarm Whisper (Gamo) here!!!! Large green Iguanas”E.Boca Raton Fl”. Mike Barone 👍👌💪🏻🎯

[@timmsmiithgm557]

Cool to see how much fun you were having. Thanks for sharing. The reason for the first sub-800 shot with the .177 is that it might have a leak - you did talk a bit longer before firing that first shot than the others.

[@milesstover3724]

havent heard much issues of leaking gas ram or gas piston components in these types of guns, ever....not saying it wont happen ive just never heard of it and i read about air guns a lot

[@chrishenning8829]

Im betting accuracy would be a bit better with JSB's or H&N pellets.

[@cc9z]

i bought a 22 cal whisper and this video answered some questions i had i wanted to kill starlings at the bird feeder and i hit the feeder and blew it up after killing sight starlings

[@tonycontreras9578]

The .177 cal weighs 0.2 lbs more than the .22 cal because the barrel bore on the .177 cal is smaller, thus the barrel has more material. The .barrel on the 22 cal is bored out larger, and thus weighs less.

[@kcender3771]

Considering a new Gamo over my existing one in .177. My shots need to be kill-shots for ground squirrels to limit suffering. Makes me reconsider purchasing a Gamo Swarm as much as I like the price point. Definitely going with a .22 cal though and appreciate the velocity data. This video was shot in 2019, so maybe they have improved.

[@watchthemaster5906]

just diesel em

[@danpaul2989]

Multi shot break barrel air rifles before the maxxim. Mendoza RM2000 Mendoza RM2800 Gamo Shadow Matic Other magazine fed springers Theoben SLR Diana 300R Daisy(Milbro) 130 BSA Goldstar I'm sure there are others, that's all I could think of offhand.

[@joedokes8641]

I have the .177 caliber . It shoots the super cheap Winchester pellets (4.99 per 500 ) and loves them. My scope didn't last more than a hundred rounds if that ( the reticle was rotating ). No other issues so far , magazine works flawlessly. Seems to be a tad bit hold sensitive .So many people say they don't like Gamo's but i think they are good for price. I have 3 of them ,22 accu , .177 Hunter Extreme , and my Swarm Maxxim .177 . None of them have the original scopes , they all failed in one way or another.

[@ShootingGearReviews]

You got it. The scopes are not that great and they can be hold sensitive but they are great guns, especially for the price.

[@Jpgaps]

What scope should I get?

[@joedokes8641]

@@Jpgaps You always hear , buy the best you can afford ? Hawk scopes a probably the best option , they have a glass etched reticle and seem to hold up very well . Make sure it does . Some of my break barrels have UTG scopes on them and some comment that they are junk . But personally never had one fail yet . A 3x9x40mm or so should work fine , that's what I use .

[@marcnissen578]

Shot placement is everything I have no trouble with my silent cat.177 taking squirrel and rabbit best break barrel I’ve ever owned neat to my gamo shadow 1000 and my hatsan air tack all iron sights

[@coba83]

The first were BSA. It was they who developed the multi-shot spring rifle. Then Diana. Gamo uses BSA developments as an owner. At the same time, BSA continues to produce excellent rifles under its brand.

[@robertrobert175]

I think you need to try a wider range of pellets in the .177 . Try a Crossman 10.5 gr. Faster is not better, most of the time.

[@ShootingGearReviews]

I’m going to redo the video soon.

[@andrewblakesley4202]

I wonder if sub-12 ft lbs guns (UK limit) are always more accurate. I have lower power airguns (Weihrauch, Gamo, BSA, Walther, Air Arms in .177, .20, .22 & .25) that will connect at 50 yards far more accurately than the US spec air rifles reviewed here.

[@hunter100t]

Bought the .22 version for one of my farmers son because he took an interest in what I was doing around the farm and fields, pest control for pigeon, rabbit etc and he loves it, I matched his barrel to Eley wasp pellts and its pretty accurate out to 35 yards. difference in weight in the .177 and the .22 ? they are the same barrel in size but the .177 is a smaller bore so more steel. good vid, I showed it to the lad.

[@ShootingGearReviews]

That is so cool to hear that you are passing on the love and enjoyment of airguns to the next generation. Keep up the good work brother.

[@catlady8324]

The break barrel community is a wholesome one.

[@2ndAveScents]

Absolutely

[@Joshua-gz3cp]

I have the Shadow Whisperer in .177. I have NO problems taking down rabbits and squirrels. I think it's more of target location of the shot than the actual round caliber for a humane kill.

[@jasonsgrowingtree5764]

Your the first person I’ve seen talking about a “ humane kill”. That’s awesome man, that comes from your heart. 99 % people I see on these comments thrive on completely destroying and mutilating animals for jollies.

[@ronholtz4882]

I have the .177 Swarm Maxxim Gen 2 10X and I am using Crosman Premier 7.9 gr. hollow point pellets. I also use the included scope and at 30 yards, I am grouping at 3/4" average. I really like this rifle and plan on getting the .22 version of it sometime in the future. The build quality is very good and accuracy is also very good. Lots of fun. Ordered 2 extra magazines so I'm not reloading so often.

[@chemicallust77]

My .22 Maxxim really likes H & N pellets....the Crosman hollow points do ok in it too...and they're cheap enough for plinking

[@dalehammond1749]

Been trying to decide between the .177 or .22, I'll go with the .22. Thanks

[@pointnozzleaway]

awesome info, as a backyard shooter with maybe 20 yards ... I'm liking the .177 . Thanks

[@cliffb.2416]

Try the JSB exact monster 13.43 gr in the .177 cal swarm. I'm getting 1/2" groups @ 30yds. Not sure what my fps / muzzle energy is (need to get a crony). I'm surprised the .177 is that slow shooting a 8.4gr, guns rated for 1300 with a ultra light pellet (8.4gr is pretty light) Thks for the video!

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[@julioleo1078]

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[@ARS-fe5wc]

I have the .177 and my groupings are really good out at 45 yards. It’s weird that your shots were all over. I have had mine for over a year now and still has good groupings.

[@richarddixon146]

Do you use the factory scope?

[@ARS-fe5wc]

@@richarddixon146 not anymore. I did for a few months. I had nothing wrong with it, I just wanted to get a new scope.

[@richarddixon146]

@@ARS-fe5wc sweet, which one did you switch too or which one would you recommend getting?

[@patrickbarrett5790]

That was a fun video, i really like your comparison vids! My buddy just got a Gamo Swarm Maxxim in .177... Great Rifle!

[@rdgsupafli]

Ordered a gamo swarm maxim on amazon and went into Walmart today saw a swarm whisper in .22 for 149 immediately picked that one up went home mounted a old simmons scope with a utg mount I had laying around and I gotta say besides the mag being a little finicky to load I use another pellet to push the other one in. But man with some cheap cross man hollow points 500 rds for 6.59 think is dead accurate only shooting up to 20 yards right now. But I mean laying holes on top of holes. 👌 👌 👌

[@scottcarl3086]

I prefer that style stock vs pistol grip. Unfortunately I wasn't able to buy a swarm magnum .22 without the pistol stock. Lucky as hell.

[@gabepettinicchio7454]

Perhaps the weight difference & the .177 being a little heavier is because more steel material must be removed from the .22's larger diameter bore. Anyhow, wonderful job, as usual.

[@Double-xposure]

I just want to know if the transfer port size is same

[@rdaugherty52]

I like the terrain is that New Mexico? Got a Gamo wild cat in 22 coming can't wait to get it sighted in. Got it for survival purposes may need to take some squirrels or rabbits without anyone knowing. Thanks for the video.

[@nattybumpo7156]

I ventured into break barrel world for the same reason. Self contained weapon, and ammo is cheap and easy to lay away in quantity. Suppressed means discrete. There is unlimited small game in my neighborhood. A man could feed himself if he can make the shot.

[@gmanneod8085]

Nice shooting Ben. With the engineering Gamo pulled off. Here is what I think should be Gamo's next engineering improvements!!! The best nitro piston air rifle Gamo could make with their existing technology would be called "The Gamo CFR Swarm Maxxim or Magnum. Gamo should take their under lever cocking CFR and engineer into this rifle a 10 shot magazine into it making a .177 and .22 calibers. The Gamo CFR has amazing feature in its stock and are incredible accurate because of their fixed barrels. These rifles will not suffer from barrel droop over time like all the break barrel rifles. also there would be no magazine interference with the sights on the rifle because the magazine and loading mechanisms would be internal. Ben do you have any experience with the CFR??? What do you think of this combination?

[@ShootingGearReviews]

The Umarex Synergis is basically what you are suggesting here. I will have one later this week! OH YA! The video with that one will be coming out soon.

[@willgibbs7754]

The .177 definitely has the wrong pellets.

[@theoriginalmungaman]

The weight difference is most likely the smaller hole in the .177, less metal removed from the same barrel.

[@fisheyeguy]

I don’t shoot a .177, but I’ve found heavier pellets just shoot more accurate. I don’t even mess with anything under 15 grains. I’ve got a tin of 14.3 grain pellets, and they don’t shoot near as well as the heavier pellets out of any of my pellet rifles.

[@milesstover3724]

177 is just a nightmare...i always try to sell myself on it, "oh it will fly farther, faster, etc" this kind of nonsense. in my opinion , other than very low power pellet pistols and guns where 177 might be appropriate, I just think 177 pellet is just obsolete. with .22, .25, .30, .35 and more pellet calibers, messing with 177 where you have no power, no dependable accuracy, no shot stability, I just cant understand why people would buy 177 over minimum .22 in pellet rifles these days

[@fisheyeguy]

@@milesstover3724 I have NEVER liked .177 caliber air rifles, for the exact reasons you mentioned. The pellets are just too small and light to be constantly stable. I’ve never worried about speed when shooting an air rifle, and why would you? I want them to NOT break the sound barrier to be quiet and stealthy.

[@milesstover3724]

@@fisheyeguy right , it doesnt get much more inconsistent than supersonic 177 pellet!

[@richarde1355]

Many a ground squirrel went to squirrel heaven via my BSA springer 177 back in the late 70’s. A LOT.

[@MrRockstar1968]

You need to trial as many different brand, weight and variety of pellets to get the perfect pellet for any rifle. I had to trial 30 different brands and weights to finally find the best suited most accurate pellet for one of my rifles.

[@yankee7664]

I have use 177, 20 and 22 and my hunting choice 22 , 177 is fast but some times has wind problems , also neads more ponching power for hunting, 20 is fast and has some good ponching pawer for hunting. but 22 is slow and heavier for a good hunting ponch ( depending on the tipe of pellets use ) that's way I like 22 Cal ( mi personal opinion and expirence over many year's ) your opinion is also accepted and that's ok

[@jimn1968]

I use Crossman pellets with the same .177 and I can shoot the narrow side of a key dangling from a string.at 30 yards consistently

[@beebop9808]

I just got a 177 and my group is better than what you got there with the 22 and that's with Rocket pellets. My problem is the mag and scope are junk. I get miss loads and the scope is maxed out on adjustment. It made it to center but there's nothing left.

[@JohnLadouceur]

If pellet weight is like archery weight vs power it is important to match weight to power. if arrows are too light they wont give you a good group specially if it is at a high velocity. I have a fast shooting pellet rifle and proved my theory. all my light pellets went all over the target but when I used heavy pellets they were more stable in flight and got a better group.

[@stevengoberdhan8480]

I think similar weight pellets should be used when testing accuracy across the two calibres.

[@megastick9324]

Actually, to get good comparisons one should shoot the most common weights in each caliber. Stepping one way up or down to make the weights the same is a faulty comparison. The 22 shoots almost double the weight of the 177, that’s not a good comparison. Select pellets in the range normally used and compare accuracy of each. Comparing a .45 with a 230gr bullet to a 9mm that would shoot 115-147 gr and asking either to match up would be the same idea. One will be way out of its zone.

[@johnberry2877]

When I was a kid my dad gave us all Gamo tube fed 177 rifles. I could literally shoot flys off leafs and birds from over a block away. Decades later purchased a new Gamo 177 with a scope from Gander Mountain. However, it was terribly inaccurate. No open sight option and the scope was complete garbage. Therefore, I have been burned by Gamo and am very reluctant to ever give my cash to them again. Gamo optics are literally trash.

[@artimusprimetcg]

.177 does just fine with small animals like rabbits and such. My .177 happens to be more accurate than my 22. I hardly shoot my 22 anymore because the .177 does the job.

[@stevejohnson1797]

I agree with criss reilly. Us in the uk hate gamo pellets too!! Air arms, h&n and the no.1 are Jsb. For us..

[@martinskovby8856]

In my opinion the results were not overwhelming but I'd like to thank you for this comparison video! Best wishes and happy shooting! Martin

[@dufferdude1205]

The gamo rocket works better for me than the redfires with a 22 whisper fusion. Not by much but better. I think the rocket likes higher velocity.

[@gasmandl]

Try changing out the scope. My rifle came with a defective scope. I was all over the paper. Bought a higher end scope and problem solved

[@leahpancho2153]

how tight do i tighten screws on clamps that are holding scope? Im afraid if i tighten anymore it would crush the scope

[@skeetermcswagger0U812]

@@leahpancho2153 I just tighten it until the screws squawk a little bit

[@skeetermcswagger0U812]

So you bought a rifle with a defective scope and you didn't bother to go back to get the scope warranteed out or just do an exchange? Then you just went and bought a new scope for know reason at all, so how do we know that the original scope wasn't any good if it wasn't effective from the beginning? I get the feeling it wasn't the scope that was defective.🤤

[@artsmith103]

@@skeetermcswagger0U812 There's not much difference between defective and needs to be replaced with those Gamo scopes. I put an entry quality 3.5-10×50mm mildot 30mm tube scope on my 0.177 Gamo Swarm Maxim. Huge improvement and I think the original was working normal. Next thing I did was adjust zoom to 6x and eye relief to focus from 10-50yds with no adjustments. Zeroed it to be +/- 1" from 10-40yds and will never adjust the scope again. Optics and pellet rifles are kind of challenging.

[@megastick9324]

I put a BSA with AO on my .177 bull whisper and a better mount. World of difference. Groups tightened up tight. For backyard plinking I guess the package scope is ok, but for actual hunting and pest control, a better scope is a must have. I probably spent close to the same for scope and mount as I did the gun, but it’s a keeper now.

[@forrestcrabbe]

The .177 barrel should have that much more metal in it on account of the smaller caliber. Y'all have a badass day 🤘

[@corygrone9324]

My Swarm Whisper 10x .177 at 80yrds with the reds does great

[@dejanperkolic2761]

Great video! Try Gamo BLACK CAT 1400 .22 . I am very satisfied with accuracy and great power.

[@bricmabesa1877]

More steel is removed producing the rifling on the ,22 which results in the slight weight difference.

[@2ndAveScents]

For plinking and target, you can’t beat the .177. You get way more pellets for your money, they’re accurate and flat shooting. But for killing anything, the .22 is where it’s at.

[@juniusvindex769]

Not quite. I use 22 and 177 I have used 177 for hunting using heavy magnums better than most 22 regular pellets. 22 with slower speed need a medium weight pellet to be effective.

[@taneyadasmandal1901]

Can u guys review the nx200 athena its a 15 foot pound rifle in 177 cal It shoots 7.8 grain pellets at 900 fps Tested through chrony Its a lovely gun I own as a 13 year old

[@feminator100]

I thought GAMO has these rated at 1300 FPS. Why are you getting around 1/2 that speed?

[@ShootingGearReviews]

1300 FPS is with super light non led ammo. Besides 1300 fps in a break barrel is utterly useless because the pellet is not stable at that velocity. Slower speeds make them WAY more accurate. not too slow but not 1300 fps for sure. Also, FYI the high FPS claims made by the manufactures are just marketing hype to get people that dont know any better to buy the air rifle. Experienced airgunners know better ;)

[@section8austin469]

Thank you for the explanation! Any recommendations for a subsonic air rifle?

[@ShootingGearReviews]

I really like the Gamo Maxxim. If you want to get something with superior quality the new Sig ASP20 is something to consider for sure. It costs a little more but the quality and accuracy are awesome.

[@paolovitale9948]

Weihrauch period

[@supremeautomotive6749]

15.4 or whatever it was for .22 is heavy that's why it was 660fps

[@geraldwolfe3414]

Thanks, Ben, enjoyed the video and I really like your "Backyard"! I was thinking like you from the begiinning and bought both!

[@antwan2469]

Which one is quieter?

[@ignacioarguellol.244]

looks that the .22 has been updated and works better with the 10X magazine (as read in the comment section) I have been looking for a reliable air rifle for pest control in a shrimp farm (bird predator in long ranges) Which one would you recommend for my situation? would the .22 would work just fine? target are less than 60 cm and are in a range from 20 mts to 80 mts

[@humor62]

Do you know if there's any difference between the Gamo 177 in this video compare to the Swarm Whisper Air Rifle.177? Nice shooting by the way, nice vid, thank you!

[@MrRockstar1968]

Gamo were not the first to manufacture a multi-shot break barrel rifle, there was a multi-shot break barrel rifle manufactured many years ago which I seen footage on a documentary about this, unfortunately I can't remember the name of the manufacturer. The reason they didn't become popular at the time was due to too many glitches in the mechanism. I believe Gamo are probably the first to manufacture a successful multi-shot break barrel rifle with very few if any glitches.

[@fva299]

I love these rifles! I have the .177. I am able to hit a cigarette 35 yds away.... Once you set these sights right you wont miss..!

[@thedude7726]

I just got one also. ive been really impressed so far with accuracy and the sound levels.

[@artsmith103]

What pellets are you guys using? I'm thinking of getting the 0.177 this weekend.

[@luisvazquez6491]

Love you video keep making more that's what I do Shutting targets just for fun I have a prowler set just for that all shots one hole with the red fire

[@CaptTurbo]

Darn now I'm nervous. I just ordered a Swarm Maxxim in .22 and I sure hope it shoots better than what you did in this video. Hell I have a 30 year old RWS Model 48 in .177 that will do one hole groups consistently beyond what you were shooting here.

[@_Andrew._]

Have you received the rifle yet? How does it shoot?

[@CaptTurbo]

@@_Andrew._ Yes Andrew. I have only spent a few hours with it. I also bought the Swarm Magnum in .22 which arrived a week or so later due to back-order. So far I'm very impressed with the magnum. More so than with the Maxxim. I intend to put more time in with the Maxxim to see if I can get a better opinion of it. To be fair, I need better optics for it.

[@_Andrew._]

@@CaptTurbo Hey, thanks for the reply. I am looking at getting an air rifle, but being in France, I am limited in power and models (especially since I do not have a hunting licence). I think I have finally decided on a 22, so now the search begins for a reasonably priced, good shooting one. As the "better half" has control over the finances, I am really limited :( All the Gamo models seem sooo similar that they are basically the same, yet so many people have different opinions on each and every one. I guess the search goes on. ;)

[@CaptTurbo]

@@_Andrew._ I think the magnum does stand out as being more powerful than the Maxxim but I have no doubt the Maxxim is plenty strong enough to take small game. The one thing that stands out to me about the Maxxim is that there are no fixed sites on it. You will need a scope or optics of some kind. I'm 60 years old now so I do better with optics anyway but a young person with sharper vision might well value open site capability. Good luck in your decision making. I don't think you can lose with any of them. Oh wait, the magnum does take some muscle to cock. I need to use both hands to do it.

[@DaveSquibbSr]

Great video as always, thank you and keep up the good work.

[@richarde1355]

Thanks for taking the time to do this video! A lot great information here! Where are you located? I grew up in NE Nevada, my sister and her lives in Utah, and the rest of my family live in Boise. The background where you are shooting seems very familiar.

[@392nightrunner]

I ordered the swarm maximum .22 cal, bought a fusion mach 1 .177 for target practice

[@bobswinehart3646]

Good video. Kept cathching myself holding my breath. Like i was shooting. .22 for the win. Gamo =great quality.

[@iqbalm67]

BSA had a multi shot break barrel with the Goldstar over 25 years ago.

[@jeffycump523]

I usaully shoot my Gamo Mag. Around 100 yrds at the range i use the Gamo rockets they work Great

[@motorboater5099]

Great vid man, huge help.

[@DaveSquibbSr]

I finally got a MAXXIM .22 cal. I love it.

[@anthonyware4033]

I have the .177 and i love it. Im using it to get rid of squirrels around my house. 1 shot and they are dead. The squirrels are destroying things and chewing up my gutters and trying to make a nest in my chimney.

[@WoodomainJeremyBroun]

I thought the .177 markedly disappointing against the .22 in your tests. I have a .177 and rather wish I'd bought the .22 for hunting.

[@ShootingGearReviews]

You should watch my newest 177 versus 22 video the 177 cal showed much better I believe. kzbin.info/www/bejne/iZeQknivjLmobck

[@Chayim55]

You didn't take consideration about wind condition... There was a slight breeze, with 177 that is enough to affect the flight.

[@dalton6786]

Not with my swarm maxxim .177 it doesn’t even get affected

[@Chayim55]

@@dalton6786 you forget the law of physics... Weight is affected by gravity and external forces like wind, rain atmospheric pressure. So Velocity depends on the projectile. I reckon those pellets are lighter which are faster but is lighter and carried by the wind than your usual slugs which are heavier more stable and true.

[@grod1036]

No iron sights, no rifle. That is the deal killer for me.

[@426superbee4]

I use my 1077 to shoot Crows, Carpenter bees. I love watching the Carpenter Bees explode when there hit ~ Its FUN FUN FUN 😁

[@bassmaster8197]

Use to do that as a kid fun stuff.. Watch the BB hit them..I used 880 daisy first gun. But I borrowed my friends red Ryder for awhile n that was really fun shooting bees n cans.

[@426superbee4]

@@bassmaster8197 You know how family get togathers are some time boring. unless you got games like horse shoes ect. So i made a bunch of big fly swatter out of a ice cream lid and a scrap flat stick for the handle . Talk about FUN👍 Bad mitten the carpenter bees butts around ~ i got all the kids doing it , and the grown ups ~ The funny thing was ~ 1 of the kids was bad mitten bumble bees and got stung ~ i told them one with the white dot on there head to bash around. Every one was getting into it, even me he hee fun stiff

[@michaelb.42112]

I LOVE seeing a new target, as well !!!! I love my Gamos, too.

[@Username-vn1wx]

I jus got one and I have nonidea how to use it lmao

[@alanspring8462]

Love your attitude and demeanor my friend and looking forward to more videos

[@MrBloodraw]

I love my gamo 22 I killed its my first ever rifle I never hunted a day of my life but the gun is so accurate once you sight in the scope I killed my first squirrel today and a bird I was shooting just normal cross man pellets i don’t know what’s the best pellets if anyone know please tell me but I wished they had added a feature letting you know you already had a pellet in the barrel

[@Adam-rw4xk]

What did periods do to you that made you swear off of them?

[@frednel4326]

if u not gonna eat it then dont shoot it man

[@ChildofYHVH]

My .177 gen 2 with Crosman 10.5 ultra domed magnums is a tack driver at 25. Dime sized groups all day long!!! With the same repeated hold. If you change your hold your impact point will change.

[@davidnikulka1437]

Air pressure between the two guns could be different . Try bottled guns at 3000 psi.

[@almighty3372]

Oh my God! They are HUGE!!!!

[@richarde1355]

at 14:05 "the .177 cal is a better suited for those of you who want to shoot cans..." I grew up in NE Nevada, and shot/killed many ground squirrels with my piston .177. My BSA .177 did the job on those little guys.

[@dwindew]

I have the .177 and I've tried lashing the thing down to my Caldwell to minimize PRE-coil hoping for tighter groups and better accuracy, to NO avail. The pre-coil is just inherent with this type of discharge mechanism in the .177and nothing can be done about it. It looks like the "lighter" .22 doesn't exhibit the same issue though as your video comparison shows. I'm stuck with it being what it is. Maybe premium pellets would help but probably not much since the problem really seems to be the discharge mechanism and is a rifle problem, not the pellets. Thanks for the video.

[@greekveteran2715]

Try some heavier pellets and Im sure, If you get it tuned, you can remove almost all the recoil and shoot way more accurate.

[@dwindew]

@@greekveteran2715 not familiar with tuning an air gun! What do you mean?

[@greekveteran2715]

@@dwindew You can get it to someone or to a gunshop, to get it tuned! You can make it shoot with more accuracy, more power, or make it easier to cock. Most people that are into the sport, tune their Air rifles, to stage 1 or stage 2. you can search the internet, for more info on that subject!

[@dwindew]

@@greekveteran2715 Appreciate the information! I'll check it out. 👍

[@greekveteran2715]

@@dwindew The difference can vary from , noticable, to a completely new rifle, that will have huge difference, than the gun it was before tune.. Just get it, to someone that knows what to do and what kit to choose! It's not very difficult or time consuming to add a kit, but the man that will add the new parts, has to be experienced. Also, you can search the internet, for opinions on pellets. It doesn't have to be very expensive ones, just the pellets, that you barrel likes! That means, that you have to experiment, on target shooting and with different pellets. (a fast internet search, on what pellets, your rifle likes more, can make things work faster and for the better).

[@Uriel77200]

I shoot gamo 177 red fire accuracy from my Crossman legacy 1000. Lubricated and a little wd40 down the barrel and I'm hitting the 1000 fps. Nice for pesky squirrels in my backyard

[@JJ-jt4ji]

I get 1" groups @ 35 yards using the swarm mag gen 2 .117 cal, shooting H & N pellets.

[@james44mag31]

I haven't found a tack driver yet . I have 2 rugers. A Benjamin prowler. Hatsun edge