Gang leaders on state care abuse

[@moronicdooshbaggery756]

This was a pretty bad interview. Kimg cobra guy had a sad upbringing and honest look at himself,,but these guys are thugs who have inflicted much harm on people. Pray for healing

[@FionaMinhinnick]

honesty from these men are the ones who can help make change. Everyone seems to forget they weren't born thugs as you suggest they grew up around & in violence sexual abuse poverty etc. To speak openly about their abuses inflicted upon themselves & abuse they inflicted is change for the better & not swept under the carpets anymore. Unlike alot of abusers who were & are still today well standing citerzins pillars of the communities who have gotten away with the harm they have inflicted upon others.

[@logicalanswer3529]

@@FionaMinhinnick Without people like this behaving the way they are, we wouldn't need to "make a change"

[@gottabesometime6632]

SICK OF THIS BLAMING THE SYSTEM...dig deeper into why kids are being born into an environment of lack of love but a pay check, when it's tit's up....BLAME THE SYSTEM.

[@henkmagnetic3103]

@@logicalanswer3529 - What comes first, chicken or egg, go figure? It's better to keep your mouth shut and appear to be a fool, than to open and remove all doubt!

[@logicalanswer3529]

@@henkmagnetic3103 So why did you reply and remove all doubt?

[@angeldark8812]

State abuse? What about gang abuse?!!! Do I hear anything about them being apologetic for their abuse? Not on your Nellie!

[@freelancerconverse4413]

State organisations full of pedophiles.

[@VariableSpring]

@Jus-Listen no more bullshit excuses, you have to take ownership of yourself and your actions without blaming others!

[@thug4lyfe]

@@VariableSpring Let me guess, you are way it...

[@dragomilosevic4823]

​@Jus-Listenif they wanna take responsibility they would admit confess to their murders they have commited and be punished for them

[@logicalanswer3529]

Professional victims.

[@Sam-vn9jm]

What about their family that abused them so bad they became a ward of the state. We're always making excuses for these people who go on to victimise our entire country.

[@StarzPopzD]

Sounds like a privileged person who had a good upbringing and never did nothing wrong

[@FionaMinhinnick]

colonization was a big factor why families abused their own back in the 1920's too the 60's 70's before going into state care then the colonized system continued too abuse them in the institutions. ie: Some were in state care for stealing milk tokens coz their baby sibling younger than them had no milk but the white European did. Some were taken into state care coz they had no shoes on their feet at school but the white Europeans did . Just a couple of examples where some were not abused by their families. Nevertheless still put in state care

[@Sam-vn9jm]

@@FionaMinhinnick Yeah like their way of life before colonisation wasn't full of violence and canabalism.

[@thug4lyfe]

@@Sam-vn9jm Show your true black raycist heart aye? Does it feel good to reveal thy true form bot?

[@George.Andrews.]

​@thug4lyfe look at your user name and have another think.

[@multitablez7825]

Children need parents. A Mum and Dad. State care fails everyone.

[@marcanderson8669]

It's more than that. Personally, I always had a Mother and Father, but never had a Mum and Dad. That bred a lot of resentment into me. Lucky for me, I realised that what I did with that resentment made a difference to the outcome.

[@kimkay2196]

No children need loving supportive parents not sad excuses of parents

[@Stormer-Europa]

Devon Stack - Don't Look Away

[@GoSouthGoodPeople]

Interview people who have been terrorised by these men and their cohorts, interview the families whose lives have been devastated by the drugs they peddle, and prepare obituaries for their future victims, nzherald is now complicit in any future crimes these men commit. Their victimhood as children should never be an excuse to their crimes as adults. There are multitudes who have had much more horrendous experiences as children and yet go on to live in a way that contributes to society rather than terrorises.

[@MrJaay06]

@Jus-Listen you missed the point, of course they could interview willing victims but the fact is they didn't, they would rather interview these former 'gangsters' to make them out as the victims. So idiots like you can continue thinking 'white man bad'..

[@lislenz670]

Please read my comment

[@logicalanswer3529]

100% correct. It's all an act anyway. Not one of them understands what self-accountability is. Imagine someone who sexually assaulted a child trying to tell you how they are the victim.

[@iwiatua6735]

What's the statistics? In regards to people being abused as children what percentage do you think goes on to become functioning members of society and what percentage of people don't. I seriously doubt the odds would be in your favor. Simple logic and statistics dictate that if you were raised in abuse you more than likely will perpetuate that abuse, to not do so is very rare. Time to start living in reality pal.

[@Crouchy_NZ]

They are not complicit. They are doing a great job reporting on a different side of the story and allowing a voice to a minority group regardless of their associations. The only reason there is light being shed on the abuse in care, is because of who these people have become. They are not interviewing little Johnny from 7/11 who didn't go down a life of crime who experienced the same. Either way they are shedding light on a huge issue of predators preying on young people who knew they had the power and position to get away with it.

[@JWaititi]

Remember, when they say "state abuse" they're talking about the bullying and abuse they experienced at the hands of other people like them in the care homes.

[@dandelion3391]

@Jus-Listen They mean racism.

[@bobkoroua]

Well I will tell you I have been in those care homes as a subcontractor and it gave me an insight that is rare, I'm not a criminal and also not a social worker. Most people working in those places are decent people but there were also people who thought " these kids only understand the bash" and manipulated some of the kids in exactly the way this guy says they did to him. Wish I had been able to afford to risk my employment at the time and to have gone to the police. I talked to my mum about doing exactly that and she asked me one question, could I trust the police 100%, if I couldn't then I would have to think of my 5 little children. Ignore my experience, lots of facts came out at the time.

[@bobkoroua]

@Jus-Listen One day I will write a book🤣👴🏽.

[@VariableSpring]

@Jus-Listen the older dude said it himself in the video, he was a thug who beat the shit out of others.

[@OhAwe]

@Jus-Listen This is the Herald. Intended audience is lobotomite bigots.

[@unrealarsepeel8376]

A man has to take responsibility for himself at some stage in his life no matter what he has been subject to. A chip on your shoulder just holds you down.

[@jakecampbell6280]

easy to say when youve had a easy life

[@unrealarsepeel8376]

@@jakecampbell6280 Free from the oppression of grammar and punctuation?

[@jakecampbell6280]

@@unrealarsepeel8376 cant be toooooo bad i rite reports for a living ;:self emploied to

[@iwiatua6735]

Pakeha need to take responsibility for themselves, hand themselves in for the abuse they have inflicted in those boy's homes.

[@RogerPeters-d5r]

Easy to say when youve never bern through it.

[@arenaheta9610]

The greatest form of abuse is the neglect of a mother or father of their children..

[@lamidawson2063]

You lost me at we are not an organised crime gang. Lets be honest here.

[@logicalanswer3529]

Exactly. If you are going to start your story with bull, it is obvious what is going to follow.

[@N.Kelvyn]

My dad was maori and was brought up in state care , got abused , yet he didnt join no gang ,he was a great dad ,husband , this is crap these guys have to find some excuse to blame the crimes they commit , they join gangs because they think there cool ,

[@dandelion3391]

It's no coincidence that no rich people join gangs. Don't rich people want to be cool?

[@FionaMinhinnick]

not all state wards joined gangs after release, there are many reasons why that came about for them. Violent & I mean herendus abuse prior to going into state too be abused again while under care of state. Today it's about curbing & making changes for the better & generations un born.

[@VariableSpring]

@Jus-Listen Morals, values and integrity is what these pathetic excuses of men are lacking, got suckered into their violent hurtful lives because they didn't have the focus to hold themselves high in society, stop blaming other people or situations, it is their own brain what led them to harming others. And the cycle of abuse is still at the forefront for their families. Taking ownership of their own situation and working to improve got away from these dudes and they still not owning it, blame blame blame everything but myself!!!

[@kayblackmore4089]

@Jus-Listen If you break into a strangers house and assault them for no reason at all then you lose the "human being card" imo

[@15stars]

Your dad was probably just scared to get a hiding

[@AntoinetteIndiraEdwards]

Why did they become wards of the state in the first place ! Because they came from violent backgrounds and no adult role models !

[@Takinga-s2l]

@@AntoinetteIndiraEdwards how do u know they had no role models sometimes the wrongs in the system it self anti Maori koz we do it our way

[@ghostface6827]

Because they lived that life dumassss

[@bobkoroua]

Even if that was true that doesn't make the abuse in state care less damaging. Kids were put into care for other reasons as well. And do you blame the kid and turn your face away because its parents let it down?

[@VariableSpring]

@@Takinga-s2l you have to do it the right way, not our way. They had no role models as they were not guided into a successful start in life, the people around them were not focused on the prize.

[@secondchance6603]

@@Takinga-s2l If they had role models they wouldn't have become violent thugs but hey, 'not their fault'.

[@robbyoung69]

The Herald is truly lost. Still not quite as bad as TVNZ One

[@lislenz670]

Unfortunately I have been a victim not just once but twice by prospects. Terrifying isn’t the word… SMH

[@gamingsuperun]

These men will sit and sook about their treatment in their youth but take advantage of young men that have been through the same to get them to do their dirty work. Absolutely no shame.

[@Tootrue40]

When trying to make a positive change for the better wouldn't it be fair to say the abused joining a gang experiencing more abuse is a conversation that wouldn't have been had when trying to blank it out or not wanting to properly talk about it or thatvthere was no law there or representation to get ultimately solutions as per those that led an average life and still had to wait many years for acknowledgment while been abused still by partners huabands or whoever I stead of been classed as liers because how could the system ever be wrong when they are law.

[@HemiLenoel-je3lx]

I'm ex military simular back ground as these bs muppets. Wen I left my service I approached government to help finance a programme for troubled youth teaching behavioral and life skills coupled with out door bush skill, mind moulding offering safe secure environments and skills for decision making future planning goal setting, building morals values, self estem, self value, self care etc... The government didn't want to know about it and put up so many obstacles it was so disappointing because it wasn't going to be a Maori focused programme this programme was for all our youth all creeds all colour, all back grounds, all ethic groups I do not see color in our nation I see kiwis I see all our people's are equal. My blood is Maori but I am Kiwi equal to all and all is equal to me.

[@moronicdooshbaggery756]

@@HemiLenoel-je3lx agree bro Maori mum,pakeha dad but I felt I had best of both worlds growing up. Proud of both my heritages and don't subscribe to everything having to connect to the maori world. This is the real world with real problems for our men .they need the help you offered This interview was looking for blame and reparations almost

[@HemiLenoel-je3lx]

@@moronicdooshbaggery756 bruv there are so few us. My mate willie ex military as well tryn to start a similar prog but yet again facing government resistance and massive government regulatory obstacles that the programme looks nothing like the original consept to the point it's been suffocated by red tape and burricratic bs. It real simple we got the boots on the ground we all know our responsibilities and expectations and goals the logistic steps to provide an effective life changing environment. Governments all about agenda and narrative that works for them not youth. Thanks for your korero bruv, u take care now.

[@karenrhodes9973]

Oh cry me a river. YOU make your own choices in life, life doesn't make choices for you. Everybody has the ability to change. EVERYBODY.

[@dgm2593]

Why are Maori forced to be pakeha????

[@dragomilosevic4823]

​@@dgm2593who is forcing who? Are there people painting their skin white?

[@secondchance6603]

@@dgm2593 Why are Maori blaming everyone but themselves for their own failings?

[@karenrhodes9973]

@@dgm2593 Why can't Maori stand on their own two feet like other races struggling in NZ?

[@dgm2593]

@@dragomilosevic4823 they call it colonisation take over

[@rhettcottle9013]

Everyone has pain and trauma. Not everyone blames the world for it tho ..

[@kikimarama6652]

Not everyone's pain and trauma is as extreme as what happened to children in state care in NZ.

[@Bebedollie]

​@@kikimarama6652there are alot of childern that went through traumatic years in state care in America and its still going on. Every day in the news you hear about it.

[@dezstepz2427]

​@@kikimarama6652Not all of us in State care let the things we were subjected to get to us that bad that we couldn't function. It's easier for a lot of state care people to just blame something like trauma.

[@kikimarama6652]

@@dezstepz2427 Depends on how extreme your trauma is.

[@_.Marz._]

@@dezstepz2427 Thankfully, you don't get to measure other people's experiences. If they're blaming their trauma on state care...maybe they're genuinely traumatised 🤷

[@lynetteoneilll-ip4jf]

Kids who are brought up in trauma and taken from their families because of that should be safe in State Care not traumatised even more by people who are meant to be helping them. That is the point of what they are saying.

[@HighMaintenancePS]

Hats off to these two men working in such positive healthy direction and putting themselves out there.

[@Daniel-po3pf]

I was a twenty year forestry worker, maori treat one another like shit

[@kikimarama6652]

I'm Maori, I don't treat other Maori like shit, and Maori I know don't treat me like shit. Stop making sweeping accusations.

[@J67844]

You are part Maori and yes he is right. Stop lying. ​@kikimarama6652

[@kikimarama6652]

@@J67844 Another failed psychic. Stop lying to yourself.

[@cheeks7050]

@@kikimarama6652 You have no ability to think statistically.

[@kikimarama6652]

@@cheeks7050 Your statement has no context, nor does it flow with the thread of the conversation. You have no ability to converse concisely or coherently. I'm not interested in gibberish...try harder.

[@hohepatewhiu1818]

I myself was abused in the state ward system by the people who looked after me from the age of eight it did not drive me to any gang . But there are people that Joined the gangs from places like Owairaka, Hokio, Kohitere, Waikeria . Some Joined for companionship, not being brought up by their family no home and being abused by adults. These days people Join gangs for drugs and money it's not about abuse these days. The 50s to the 90s are over can't smack a child without being arrested these days.

[@EuropeanImpact-r8q]

Totally agree, these new kids joining gangs are nothing like the ones you see 15+ years ago, humans need basic companionship, and that's why people joined gangs, however these days its over stimulation, need more drugs, more money, more action.

[@LiveinPeace1-u6f]

As an aboriginal man this is why we need to be there for our children to protect them and teach them we should not let other races do it for us the children are our future they’re the ones who we will look after us when we become elders our job is to lay down the foundation for them to build on much love and respect to my Māori brothers and sisters I see you and share your pain and hardships

[@DanNelson-uc3sx]

I was raised with nothing but abuse and violence ,never turned me into a bully boy though. I wonder if these gangs are going to pay compensation to all of their victims. Course not ow!

[@Bebedollie]

Exactly 💯

[@lamidawson2063]

Quite the opposite. 7:56 It looks like these gang members have their hands out again. Blaming the world for their choices.

[@dbdxrdo6433]

They pay the price with jail time if so an as said nit all of them are doing criminal activitie and criminals an the numbers show the evidence is there. Also did you get raped ? Did you get your head kicked in ? Did you go state ward my mother suffered tremendous abuse in there how disgusting bro for you think everyone after mkney as said proper measures an help put in place for the trauma done by the government so called protectors ?

[@dbdxrdo6433]

Not just shut up money

[@dbdxrdo6433]

Uce you went to church an got a hiding for not doing dishes that's different 😂 . U didn't get traumatized

[@scottgresham6759]

Prayers for healing and ongoing support and integration for men and women who are survivors of a trying state care system that in many cases struggles to accommodate them properly.

[@KiwiKaosAgent]

Life is hard, what gives them the idea that it is any other way. The rest of us don't resort to what these fools do. Stop looking back and start looking forward with a more positive attitude at looking at the things you can do to improve your situation.

[@oldkiwibloke]

And just yesterday Herald published the gang females railing against the "horrific rapes and beatings they are subjected to by their own. Cry me a river.

[@xoxo98808]

you couldnt walk a mile in my shoes

[@oldkiwibloke]

@@xoxo98808 I couldn't walk a mile. 🙁

[@VariableSpring]

Those pathetic excuses of men are the problem and they trying to blame something else than themselves.

[@floppa3c]

do these people even realise they're not black?

[@MarkWhippy]

Why are you more worried about that than the subject they're talking about

[@Stormer-Europa]

It's a financed global geopolitical agenda with it's key mechanism being the privately owned central banks.

[@chairmybowl835]

Point………Missed😂

[@floppa3c]

​@MarkWhippy it's just quite ridiculous seeing all the 'black power' shit that seems pretty racist in itself. they are related to Thai aborigines, are they black?

[@seanodwyer4322]

@@floppa3c they watched too much U.S.A. television programes.= brain- washed

[@BigSaus]

Need more of these stories put out there to understand why people are the way they are

[@Lukejb2Butterworth]

bullies all ways have an excuse , shame on NZ Herald giving these thugs a voice

[@AutumnNapia-yc5oe]

thugs ? ahahaha human being

[@secondchance6603]

@@AutumnNapia-yc5oe Human beings who are thugs.

[@Motivez91]

I'll give you my Addy come say that in person

[@Sam-m6o3j]

@@Motivez91Tryna prove their point?

[@moronicdooshbaggery756]

@@Motivez91 you proved his point exactly, Call a thug a thug to his face,and he will show you he is indeed a thug. No self awareness there

[@Longtack55]

Whatever excuse for poor adult behaviour works for you guys... In my experience you are victims of your own ethnic cultures. Spider Sadlier laughed at Maori who blamed the State for anything.

[@Jannfndnanakid]

No sympathy

[@brentmarshall928]

Clean up your own backyard,.. ...before you start blaming others. sorry guy's your rhetoric does not wash.

[@sjm1408]

That is how nothing changes but, they are brave enough to expose these truths. Only then can the discussions and better solutions can come about then healing begins.

[@Rapture_Ready_Rabbit]

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[@distortedreality3116]

If gang life was an outcome of abuse then how on earth can it be said that gangs are not part of the issue. Healing starts with accountability on all fronts. Prayers sent to all those suffering. ✌️ ❤ 🙌

[@CrimeBeanus]

There are plenty of people that suffered who went on to become success stories in their own right. It's not just a state issue, it's an NZ culture issue too.

[@mitreswell]

Rather than blame the 'State', find the individuals that actually were responsible for any abuse and hold them to account. Would be interesting to learn what race they were too.

[@kikimarama6652]

State care in New Zealand can be traced back to the 1860s, when the State first established industrial schools for children and young people. Most children and young people who were in State care in the nineteenth and twentieth centuries were placed there by court order after committing relatively minor offences. A minority entered care after having found to be abandoned, neglected or otherwise abused by their families, or when their families were unable to care for them. This was for many different reasons, including poverty and the illness or death of a parent.

[@sjm1408]

Racist!

[@loubliss7471]

So glad they are speaking up, my son won't and he suffered miserably.

[@j3m638]

Simply fueling more resentment, division & anger against everyday kiwis who are NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR THIS!

[@N_Richd1]

They didn't say everyday kiwis were responsible for this.. Or are you paranoid.?

[@multitablez7825]

Can you imagine the US media running stories like this about MS13 gang members?

[@kikimarama6652]

You mean the U.S who have effected regime changes in South America that ensured despot dictators ruled over people leading to more poverty and violence. Yeah imagine being like those hypocrites.

[@J67844]

Yes I can. Misery media love this stuff.

[@peter-yy5qy]

They want excuses. These folks are not intelligent enough for self-reflection.

[@mykesunnyvale]

He's the president of a feared gang and your a nobody commenting on KZbin Who's the intelligent one here I think you need self reflection 🤷🏽

[@iwiatua6735]

What's your excuse for your kind? You hypocrites are a laughing stock and are always playing the victim now you wanna ban patches because you lot are so scared, harden up!

[@MarkWhippy]

Its a look into what caused them to become what they became.

[@michaelmarama-de4gx]

Your right Peter, these thugs and great menaces to our society need to look in the mirror and tell them selves, I'm a thug and I can't change 😂

[@MickyReeves]

@@MarkWhippylow iqs will do this

[@petakarini7567]

every kid born automatically becomes a ward of the State through your birth certificate cause as soon as you parent registered you you became a ward of the state because as soon as you REGISTER anything it belongs to the corporate govt,..thats why we are always told we muster REGISTER everything but you dont,have to,. registration is not a Law,. its voluntary,..

[@mareeauld5778]

Why don't they blame their culture??...

[@peter-yy5qy]

They want excuses. These folks are not intelligent enough for self-reflection.

[@kikimarama6652]

State care in New Zealand can be traced back to the 1860s, when the State first established industrial schools for children and young people. Most children and young people who were in State care in the nineteenth and twentieth centuries were placed there by court order after committing relatively minor offences. A minority entered care after having found to be abandoned, neglected or otherwise abused by their families, or when their families were unable to care for them. This was for many different reasons, including poverty and the illness or death of a parent.

[@seanodwyer4322]

'''Pride.''''

[@gavincarey4782]

The Herald fawning to these mentally ill story tellers

[@AutumnNapia-yc5oe]

ahahaha come face mate you’ll get your shit rocked

[@charlieb9064]

Professional victims. When it's time to change their ways they always blame the system, their abusers or lack of "cultural awareness". What you never see is them taking responsibility for their own behaviour and saying sorry to their victims.

[@jobird354]

When media only gets funding for Maori stories. Pathetic!

[@secondchance6603]

Imagine being so oppressed that your oppressors allow you to have your own flag, TV station, radio station, rugby team, schools, doctors, political party, a 10% discount when being sentenced in court for 'cultural' reasons, special voting rights and a separate section in the NZ Herald... oh the suffering!

[@N_Richd1]

You guys butthutt or something?

[@seanodwyer4322]

@@secondchance6603 Victim Support- Sean O'Dwyer.- number 136- 140 Hobson Street.- Auckland City. 1010.- new zealand./ maha aotearoa.'

[@maryfiaola3686]

You dont get lead into gangs , its a Choice you make.There are Lots of people in this world that have been through so many problems being brought up in families, doesnt mean they go and join gangs or cause trouble in society. JUst like some maoris who think because their life has been rough they go and abuse innocent people in society, and when they go to court they play the maori card ....that they have had a rough life so they decide to go abuse people because they can. The same thing in america, there are black americans who cant stand other blacks who cause problems and play the black card. Everyone knows what is good and what is bad . Its ok to make mistakes and straighten your life out but Many people Choose not to.

[@jimothytimothy5109]

At one some point early on in adult hood, you cant blame your trauma for inflicting more trauma on others instead you get to a point of realization your past doesn't control your present self and that only you are responsible are for your actions

[@devinmcgregor5687]

Thank you for this report

[@ruakerehond7700]

To Feke and Puks I can't speak highly enough of your mahi. There has to be change and healing before things get better. Don't pay attention to all the haters and knockers who spout more of the same old put-downs and brainless trash talk of bigger prisons and heavier punishment as the solution, like that has ever worked. Yes there is such a thing as trauma that leads to further traumatisation of others. Changing a single life towards a path of being well and feeling well leads to acting well and is change for generations. You and all of your rōpū taking on this challenge have my (and numerous others) total support 100%.

[@sjm1408]

Same here. I totally agree!

[@Creatress-b3q]

Well said, encouraging words for healing.

[@KINNZ94]

What is the point of this documentary?

[@OhAwe]

Rile up their audience. They know who their base are.

[@Sam-vn9jm]

@@KINNZ94 To push their anti white agenda

[@rt-we5bc]

@@OhAwe incorrect

[@OhAwe]

@@rt-we5bc People like you 🤣.

[@nope1083]

big bodies, little brains

[@sjm1408]

Big hearts and brave enough to expose the truth.

[@nope1083]

@@sjm1408 sorry for being bigoted, a Maori pushed me last week

[@UndisputedP4P]

​@@sjm1408what truth ? Stop being vague

[@OhAwe]

Everyone involved with the Herald should be entirely ashamed of being involved in such a heinous brand. Look at the audience you've created, intentionally. Divide et impera for your masters. Doing your utmost to make the world an objectively worse place.

[@viaaustralia5388]

Totally agree- Disingenuous bias that creates division for profit.

[@vexisvibin]

I see most people think this interview was terrible, but I disagree. There’s a pretty distinct difference between giving context and trying to use that context as an excuse. Not sure which one these gang members are doing but surely the Herald and the average Kiwi can make that distinction.

[@Annon-sp7kl]

A product of British colonialism

[@sjm1408]

Great answer! 💯

[@Creatress-b3q]

I hope we all heal, unite and show love for each other to the things we talk about and do not talk about.

[@thecongenital3035]

Our pacific men need to find God again. Men are supposed to lead their families to God, not a patch.

[@aleshatohiariki4824]

Everyone who’s commented so far just look like you were raised in good homes with good parents and went to good schools, I’m not a gang member but I know half these people wouldn’t even handle boys homes let alone jail, ONLY GOD CAN JUDGE

[@mareeauld5778]

Why were they put into the state's care to start with? Because they were so value and useful??!!

[@bobkoroua]

I know someone who was placed in care because their parents were locked up for growing weed. You sound like you would turn your face away from that innocent kid. They were my school mate and were the pride of my primary school for their art and their smile. They ended up abused and wrecked by a repeat offender on the staff.

[@petervanbeek752]

Very bad journalism, no form of accountability of any of these ....!. Blaming everyone but themselves!! Not an organised crime group? No it's a chess club! Bull!

[@tagaEskinita]

I thought gangs are a Knitting club.

[@moronicdooshbaggery756]

@@petervanbeek752 it's actually a pottery club

[@josiahpulemau6214]

Society lacks God fearing men who lead their wives and children according to scripture. A perennial truth for all ages and culture. True peace is found outside of the human race. True peace can only come from He who created all things, the Lord Jesus Christ. Repent and believe and turn from your love of sin. Christ is King 👑

[@moanaleva]

Gratitude is the remedy for resentment.

[@mauriceupton1474]

Single parent families are the problem.

[@lynetteowens946]

I hear the Aboriginals speaking about their past, move forward. I'm actually embarrassed when friends say they're going to NZ for a holiday. What I saw when I went back😮 humiliating

[@peterm3964]

The STATE makes a poor parent indeed .

[@brianoliver521]

Unfortunately the majority of abuse within people of part Maori decent occurs within the family. Up until about the 1960's their was not a problem. When the DPB came in there was a explosion of single women raising children without fathers. The family structure had broken down. We as a society now pay the cost. The Maori being at the bottom of economic ladder were affected most. If the mobs want to do something to help their members then they should start by outlawing family violence. Insist that if they get a woman pregnant that they live with them and be a father to the children and not expect the state to raise their children. What has happened in the past cannot be fixed but the next generation can be helped.

[@kikimarama6652]

State care in New Zealand can be traced back to the 1860s, when the State first established industrial schools for children and young people. Most children and young people who were in State care in the nineteenth and twentieth centuries were placed there by court order after committing relatively minor offences. A minority entered care after having found to be abandoned, neglected or otherwise abused by their families, or when their families were unable to care for them. This was for many different reasons, including poverty and the illness or death of a parent.

[@rg1876]

So glad I left NZ.

[@morgan-5171]

So glad you did 🤡

[@FionaMinhinnick]

@rg1876 & worse abuse where you are now.

[@robinbanks610]

Same sexual abuse and beatings is state care, foster care, by churches of young people here in australia been happening since forever. How does anyone think young kids anywhere in the world subjected to all that shit is going to turn out? Then there’s juvenile detention and prison and the screws and some other prisoners treatment make people worse and they come out of prison worse.

[@jessewilson83]

I dont know much but that fulla has a mean moko. Hard out.

[@goldfromtheamazonforest3630]

tough guys feeling sorry for them selves, maybe if they lived in 3rd world countries , they might understand how lucky they are ,mate, looking for compensation that's all ,,cry babies .still in the stoner age .instead of looking toward the future , to ride the milky way highway.

[@FionaMinhinnick]

@goldfromtheamazonforest3630 that's just it we not in a 3rd world country but certainly leading that way with 3rd world problems poverty, thuggery, political corruption, milliatary terrorism rape, unsolved deaths, raising gangs etc. Thank goodness these people see that change has to come both with themselves State & religious hypocrites. Thank goodness they see a better future meaning hard work too make a difference. I don't see the third world countries even coming close to change

[@dr.tinalight5115]

They are brave to face and reflect on past and walk on the path of healing as well as bringing awareness. 🙏❤️🙏

[@ChristurnbullllubnrutsirhC]

Yeah real brave being gang members. Your stupid

[@tboyz1]

I agree it takes courage despite the ignorance shown in the comments and society.

[@viaaustralia5388]

You think other people have not had it hard, that's your ignorance.

[@secondchance6603]

'Brave' LMFAO!!!!

[@dr.tinalight5115]

@@tboyz1 💯 it is sad that the level of self reflection and empathy is so low...

[@arvindlal6035]

Disgusting, any excuse to justify terrible things they do to others. There are soo many out there who come from broken families, abused as children they come out to be law abiding people.

[@N_Richd1]

Shut uuuup...

[@Tight--LiNeZ]

Some very naïve journalism, with only 13 seconds of non-pandering.

[@GaryTaueki]

Ward of state!! Sucked😮

[@VillaMatakiEua1]

Get out of my face 0:59

[@ELDESTLILITH]

Are you my dad

[@paytonruss55]

No one is perfect we all search for a place of belonging and if people find that in a club then there's nothing wrong with that. If some play up on their own accord then that's an individual thing not a club thing in my opinion.Organised crime? Politician's are the worst organised crime syndicate known to man stealing off the people in broad day light every bludy day that's much bigger than what clubs are doing!!

[@martynhoward4287]

Who gives a damn what gangs think

[@MrBrandomized]

how about we sort out the root of the problem so that these people dont need state care!!!

[@pirrracy]

AI will spur on a new era of Eugenics; gene editing, C.R.I.S.P.R. etc. Nobody will be producing defective offspring the likes of these people. Relax.

[@thug4lyfe]

Agreed, decolonise and follow the New World Order!

[@dgm2593]

The root problem is - The pakeha cheated lied and frauded a peace treaty to steal land wealth and resources from Maori which left Maori absolutely nothing. If pakeha crown did the right thing by Maori as partners within the treaty we wouldn't have these colonial extortion issues we are having today! Its like forcing a wild animal into a circus colonial system that they dont belong too!

[@dgm2593]

Yeah i agree. Give there land wealth and resources back so they can look after themselves instead of relying on a british pakeha colonial system that Maori dont belong to!

[@MrBrandomized]

@@dgm2593 because that would solve everything ah..... give me shit and ill be happy..... classic

[@FionaMinhinnick]

tautoko ahau enei korero o nga morehu. historical limitations of claim against was the focus of the crown why those were unable to speak against their abusers in state care. Polictical law Acts upon acts a reason why it was easy for those to dismiss such claims against. No amount of money can ever give back too the survivors what was taken from them as a child while under legal guardian of care & safety under the superintendent Ministry of education Act 1925, later known as Development of Social Welfare then Child youth & families know known today as. My point here is you can change names as many times over generations however the same Act of 1925 still exists today, with variant amendments which created limitations to challenge or speak out against of historical abuse claims. Arohanui kia tatou. It took generations for the Government Crown too get it wrong & cover up their wrong doings so will it take too correct & validate all survivors then & now. Compensation will not ease the burden of all of us who have gone through that system but will certainly help big or small in raising differculties as we all are experiencing in today's economics .

[@katherinewells6973]

Was awsom to see you Feke in the cab from Wellington, i look forward to seeing more of your journey with survivors. Kia kaha ehoa

[@bolobolo7928]

Second guy is a joke!

[@henkmagnetic3103]

@bolobolo - Sounds like you can relate/on the same level!

[@bolobolo7928]

@@henkmagnetic3103 just because your whole family is black power doesn’t mean you get forced into it… didn’t let it keep me down but it is what it is, everyone’s different but yeah take some responsibility for yourself and your own life

[@davidbinnie9513]

The abuser should be held accountable to the full extent of the law maybe even further, trouble is where do you draw the line when the abused becomes the abuser? You will also end up prosecuting the victims until it reaches the end of the line, for it to be effective it has to be an even hand with emotions taken out of the system and do what is right and just. No shelter given to anyone no matter their standing in society, race colour or creed, everyone hurts, and some hold it in all their lives, but until there is resolution and these dirty deeds covered up nothing is achieved there is no closure.

[@user-tx4io7fk4o]

Such horrific treatment of these kids 😢😢😢

[@nnaheim.]

Garbage interview, media seems to celebrate these fools

[@garethkirby3904]

It's terrible they got abused in state care. It's also likely they would have ended up in gangs because there's a reason they ended up in state care in the first place. Their own families were abusing them first.

[@Jun-pr6li]

Maybe the Maori should declare independence from the western colonial power.

[@Purgatoryson123]

Boot camps are state care

[@AminYaMum85]

Crying victim again.Sob story.

[@ELDESTLILITH]

Your a Koko... 😮 She look like koko

[@anauanau1229]

I was there at that time 😢it happened i told my social worker at the time system turned blind eye 😢😢

[@Kodes275]

Will always have aroha for you Puks 💯✊🏼 always had the upmost respect for you brother..

[@MG-fr3tn]

You perpetuate suffering, mostly for those closest.

[@neilstuarr2278]

Just cut all state care. Make a decision .

[@Stormer-Europa]

I would encourage anyone to listen to some of Devon Stack's work. He did one called "Don't Look Away" which is still on YT.

[@TeAwhenia]

This is a winz application lol

[@bigman1942]

Who are the kuki squad? Never seen them before

[@SirGregg]

The State is a Public Trust that administrates the estates of 'dead' 'persons'. Person=corporate sole, a legal entity created and owned by the state. Person=persona=mask=actor=fiction. The birth certificate is evidence of a share in a sole proprietorship. 'Person' is a govt owned business, a state owned slave. TOMBSTONE, the report generated for a security at its maturation date, it shows the details of the transaction and the issuer. Blacks law Dictionary. The ALL-CAPS full legal name is the issuer of securities. A bonded debt slave by deception and citizen-ship.

[@MrBrandomized]

citizenship gives some pretty good perks though, if you go full soviren you wont even be able to use the health system if needed

[@furlough2327]

@@MrBrandomized "Everybody knows you never go full sovereign" 😂

[@MrBrandomized]

@@furlough2327 hahaha this comment made my morning!!!

[@bobkoroua]

Did you knight yourself then? I'm going to king myself and make you pay fealty. Bow to your sovereign 👑

[@gordonfreeman-g5w]

These gangs haven't evolved since the medieval ages.

[@dgm2593]

Maori never wanted to be pakeha. Its colonial extortion? Its like trying to transform an eagle into a duck ?

[@gordonfreeman-g5w]

​@@dgm2593 Sorry, my comment was toward the Black Power, and in fact all gangs of all races and nations around the world. I don't like any of them. The way they treat their members and people outside of their organization.

[@WhitecloudQligdhu]

Yes and more mental health counseling in this country nothing done hush hush wonder why these crime hate

[@Takinga-s2l]

Native maori not organized crime whanaungatanga,... U speaking for the mob really