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@Garage4age Жыл бұрын
Big thanks to James for running up the Formula Atlantic, on the garage4age dyno! Engine was built to Atlantic spec by Loynings usa. making 254hp on the engine dyno. Chassis is a swift db4 . It still gets out on the track often, which is super cool. Im sure he will jump in here, if I got any of that wrong. his channel: kzbin.info
@swiftdb4 Жыл бұрын
Huge credit to you, it's also nice to put an Atlantic on the dyno as a reference point. It confirms that the numbers you are putting out on your home builds are up there with the established big name 4AGE race engine builders.
@davegt27 Жыл бұрын
@@swiftdb4 shouldn't that Atlantic engine be reving higher then that
@swiftdb4 Жыл бұрын
@@davegt27 The maximum RPM the TRD software for the ECU allows is 10,000. Yes others do go as high as 11500, but engine life becomes non existent and the failures become spectacular. Most that race Atlantic's will shift at 9000-9500 to get ~3000 miles between teardowns (pistons tend to crack). Once you go over 10000 it becomes rebuilds every 600 miles or so.
@zerohikari2685 Жыл бұрын
@@swiftdb4 This is not what I was told by Hasselgren. Hasselgren made it clear these engines have a 1000 hour race life. I don't know why someone told you a mileage because no race engines life are based on mileage.
@swiftdb4 Жыл бұрын
@@zerohikari2685 no worries, I'm just speaking from my experience. Mileage or hours can be used for service intervals, but it is my experience that what you rev to has a direct relationship on how quickly the engine deteriorates and needs inspection for such things as cracked pistons, warped crank, bearing wear, cam wear etc etc. Just to put some maths to that 1000 hours, when racing the cars average ~105mph. At 1000 hours that would equal 105,000 miles engine life at any RPM (by what you are saying). 105000 miles is about 700 race events or 13 years racing every weekend. I've seen a couple of Hasselgrens fail well before that but that must have just been bad luck ;)
@sasha-taylor Жыл бұрын
honestly your engine looks to have more area under the curve, with just a tiny difference at the top end but a significantly earlier onset in the rev range. Extremely impressive!
@johnlewis8156 Жыл бұрын
Agreed! Any 4ag builder that gets close to a formula Atlantic engine is doing impressive work. You probably have another 5 hp in your motor anyways if you wanted it!
@BMW3.0CS Жыл бұрын
Very interesting comparison, the formula engine has very smooth power and torque curves once it gets up there but your engine appears to have much better mid range power. Nice work 😎
@ToreDL87 Жыл бұрын
Yeah 4age's are usually like that, build for absolute peak performance and that's what you get, peak performance, at cost of everything else.
@Garage4age Жыл бұрын
This is what i've been trying to show on here for the last 2 years or so. can have an engine that works at both ends of the rpm range if get it right. but most people just look at the peak numbers 🤷♂ The Atlantic is specifically tuned for high rpm as. since they would sit in the last 3000rpm there whole life
@capnthepeafarmer Жыл бұрын
@@Garage4age summed up by the previous comment too 🤣! People think the engine can only do peak power because all they ever see are engines built for peak power. It's like a confirmation bias or whatever. 😂
@SidewaysGts Жыл бұрын
@@Garage4age "This is what i've been trying to show on here for the last 2 years or so. can have an engine that works at both ends of the rpm range if get it right" Out of curiosity have you ever showed/discussed what was involved for retrofitting that VVT?
@Adam-nv9zo Жыл бұрын
Great job 👏. Truly shows how the well sorted and tuned the "good engine" really is.
@Danleyson1 Жыл бұрын
That midrange disparity is impressive
@dodenmanniskan8846 Жыл бұрын
Nearly the same amount of power and yet you way more drivability in yours. Absolument amazing !
@sepg5084 Жыл бұрын
That small amount of high rpm power can make or break a race car, which has no need for mid range power. Apples to oranges comparison anyway but still impressive.
@oscardeltoro898 Жыл бұрын
Great comparison. The Atlantic shows you more of an old-school approach at tuning back then where it was all or nothing. Showing with continuous data, research and development you can obtain close to a better average. The trick now will be to find the best cam that you can turn with the VVT. Depending on how difficult it would be to replicate these could have tons of potential. Many 4AGE are running the wrong cams for their setup and everyone could benefit from VVT.
@Garage4age Жыл бұрын
Yep, a lot of engines out there running mismatched parts, not just 4age. Thats where the power is had, getting it all working together properly. vvti setup is up and running on good engine with the best cam combo out of my pile of cams. was short on time when testing which would work the best. so didn't record any of it. but will do a video of said combo with the vvti when get time
@manitoublack Жыл бұрын
So awesome. The Atlantic is also likely to be down a few kW because those wide slick tyres always sap a little power.
@AmirPomen Жыл бұрын
Both were the best engine ever! 1 for the circuit Another 1 for the street 💪💪
@TRDKhanbrothers Жыл бұрын
Awesome Atlantic setup there, those are true and rare machines,this is one isn’t as insane as the others I have seen in Japan or Ausi, Wish I could gather all the parts to build one as I would love to own a 1900cc 4age 16v Your 4age is also impressive, not built like the Atlantic but the power is there and also very aggressive motor
@jareknowak8712 Жыл бұрын
His engine is even more impressive than Atlantic, as a street engine, bc there is more mid range torque. His engine has wider usable power band.
@TRDKhanbrothers Жыл бұрын
@@jareknowak8712looking at this video again and comparing to his new video with his high comp 16v, yes you are right his motor is stronger than this Atlantic 😅
@stanley4290 Жыл бұрын
YEEES! my 4age research lead me to atlantic, and now you upload this. im stunned. i want one of this engines
@spinnetti Жыл бұрын
Funny that I just commented a couple days ago that your engine was practically an Atlantic engine. I like you got your Pegasus shirt too... long a provider of racing bits.
@BigCarKilla Жыл бұрын
At 10k it just sounds like it’s pissing it in. Love it.
@nick_parker Жыл бұрын
Wow! That definitively shows how well sorted your 'good engine is! I'd love to see what tweaks you can come up with to push the performance envelope further.
@Garage4age Жыл бұрын
I'll be focusing on fattening up the midrange going forward. but should be able to hang onto most of that top end if all goes to plan!
@luisramonrecarey Жыл бұрын
Very impressive numbers on yours
@Chris-pn1dx Жыл бұрын
“Rev it to 11,000 RPM…” BABY MAKE UP YOUR MIND FOLLOW YOUR DREAMS UNTIL THE NIGHT IS OVER
@themr2guy Жыл бұрын
The G4A good engine is definitely a beast! Very well done for sure and making all that power while fitted in the confines of an actual road car. The Atlantic car has the benefit of fitting those smooth bend long tube headers so I expected more from it in the midrange. Very excited to see what you have in the works!👍
@sepg5084 Жыл бұрын
They won't tune that exhaust for mid range, that race car probabaly won't use mid range rpm during a race.
@themr2guy Жыл бұрын
@@sepg5084 the term mid-range is relative…
@MrEosmit Жыл бұрын
I like to see these tests, find the results to be close to a CA18De with 4 port head. Keep it up
@perrosdemaiz7 ай бұрын
If I’m not mistaken, I remember these Atlantic engines need rebuilding at around 700 miles. You don’t get a super long life when you’re pushing 240HP. I saw a lot of holes in blocks.
@Garage4age7 ай бұрын
Yeah, its mostly the revs not the power. the guys that run them these days tend to limit them around 9500rpm. Which makes them last alot longer, for a little bit of a hit in usable rpm range. Back when budgets were high and super competitive racing it would have been worth using the extra rev's.
@Bluterus Жыл бұрын
IMO Yours is pretty close and would make a much better street car as it makes bucket loads more power in the mid range. The formula Atlantic is clearly made to run in the top end on a circuit. Pretty impressed by how close yours is and I bet it didn't cost as much.
@JesseSpec Жыл бұрын
Nice one! Always nice to have formula/prototype cars on the Dyno! The other day I did a bike engine proto, the revving is insane hahahah
@T90isback Жыл бұрын
A bit of difference in top end horsepower, a huge difference in mid-range torque, that's cool!
@arlomacrorie4533 Жыл бұрын
great video! very impressive work with the G4A, cant wait to see the next steps you take with it.
@Vapourdave Жыл бұрын
This is the ultimate flex
@sotirispolitis4617 Жыл бұрын
No words. Just utter awe.
@MaggieCat83 Жыл бұрын
Wow! That close! Love your work.
@seekerofthetruths Жыл бұрын
Was definitely hoping for some details and close ups of the formula Atlantic clone
@Garage4age Жыл бұрын
its 100% atlantic spec, as far as i know. built by loynings usa. cool piece of kit. there is a link to the owners youtube in pinned comment at the top. maybe you can ask him nicely and might have some more details
@cloutdrilla8786 Жыл бұрын
This is the most legendary 4age ever
@martinb2262 Жыл бұрын
Interesting comparison. I guess it comes down to what you want the car for and what you want it to do. A road car you want lots of midrange to make it punchy and useable. Race car spends most of its time WOT and at the top of the rev range. Peaky delivery at the top of the rev range would be a nightmare as a daily
@jareknowak8712 Жыл бұрын
Impressive! You never cease to amaze me!
@bsiccs Жыл бұрын
That thing sounds bananas!
@shxtbox Жыл бұрын
Ever thought of doing a video on a best “bang for your buck “mods for a big port 4AGE? 256 cams, good exhaust, keeping standard intake? Be interesting to see
@Garage4age Жыл бұрын
I have videos building them up from close to stock if haven't seen them already. There no real best bang for buck mod unfortunately
@dvtc8u Жыл бұрын
best bang for buck is a honda k24
@butziporsche8646 Жыл бұрын
That would be a great engine for an old Lotus Europa.
@pandemik0 Жыл бұрын
Actual racing with space saver tires I would love to watch.
@dutchsailor6620 Жыл бұрын
I remember seeing the Renault F1 team coming to Zolder with cast motorcycle wheels mounted, so the cars would fit in the transporter. After unloading the correct wheels came on and Prost c.q. Arnoux where off to do their testing.
@aergaetrhethaergertha2099 Жыл бұрын
Would love to see some forced induction testing soon! Haven't seen the lux in over a year ): im sure the 4age community would eat up some sc12/14 testing
@Garage4age Жыл бұрын
my car did have a sc14 on it for a few weeks about 10 years ago haha. kzbin.info/www/bejne/gqi0fKGVopaebMk
@aergaetrhethaergertha2099 Жыл бұрын
@@Garage4age sounds so spicy was this with the good engine setup? Surely it would've had some crazy mid range
@Garage4age Жыл бұрын
@@aergaetrhethaergertha2099 was a different engine. Had itbs and cams. Probably made about the same numbers as good engine
@joharibaharuddin Жыл бұрын
Dope, love you work
@urvanairhorn7156 Жыл бұрын
Nice healthy 4age
@jakeb84 Жыл бұрын
the sound of beauty 👌
@3800S1 Жыл бұрын
Funny that. My next street (actually country road) car engine is based on a Formula race car. I have the cam for it that will form the basis but I am taking beyond what the Formula class was allowed by running a larger throttle (class ran stock 60mm) of 69mm (nice!) and much higher comp of somewhere between 12 and 13 where the class ran a very low 10:1. Also mine will have the factory intake pipe which adds somewhere around 5-10 Nm across the entire curve, the class ran straight throttle body with filter which results in a loss across the broad from my dyno testing. Mine will also have likely head improvements as porting has improved in the last 30 years and slightly higher ratio rockers. Not sure on what gains but I hope for at least 20hp over the 340hp they got in the early 90s but more is possible.
@timrensen850 Жыл бұрын
Thanks
@Tyks_ Жыл бұрын
I’m here for asking video of how did you do vvt pulley mod on 16v age its so cool because I haven’t seen anybody else did it
@yeahgoood Жыл бұрын
The good engine is a true street car engine.
@theangel540 Жыл бұрын
Really great job! seriously! secret weapon for the last HPs ? DLC or Nikasil treatment ? Good rings tiering for best compression (180° between first and second ring not aligned on the pin (45°) and 90° for the oil) ?
@Blenzo480 Жыл бұрын
My dad had a black super seven with a Cosworth BDA formula Atlantic engine in it back in the 80s. I wonder if that car is still around.
@mondaymaniacs2256 Жыл бұрын
1.6L making 222? freaking awesome
@vctrsone Жыл бұрын
Are you in Auckland bro? Would love to come get a dyno run in my Yari Ive been building up! Just about to buy/build headers an exhaust, i already put 2008 jdm RS brakes and instrument cluster in. Be cool to find some other toyota heads. Not sure you mess with 1nzfe tho!
@dadeftones7 Жыл бұрын
You build good engines
@madxp9668 Жыл бұрын
your exhaust might be slightly more restrictive on the top end but u nail it at the lower end
@stapernazza Жыл бұрын
....you have to analyze the gear ratios and the engine rpm range you will most use..... may be that your engine is best if need mid range power (usually in rally car and street racing). For sure in track racing they can optimize gear ratio to have always top engine revs between the corners.... In these case their high revs engine is better.
@Garage4age Жыл бұрын
Yeah, as have said in previous comments. both engines are in the best place. my engine in the atlantic car would be slower, since would never see sub 7000rpm in race conditions. mines more of a all rounder. i also intend to trade a little more top end for more midrange
@feral4mr2 Жыл бұрын
Man I'd love to have a drive of that thing on the track, Lakeside park! Weeeeeeeeeee
@benhowe2087 Жыл бұрын
I wonder what internal mods have been made for more efficiency. Oil pump and passages, crank case evacuation, crank scraper, water flow through the engine and pump mods. Oil drain back and evacuation. Small power gains here and there.
@Garage4age Жыл бұрын
for sure, all the little bits add up. the dry sump setup probably helps a little bit.
@benhowe2087 Жыл бұрын
@@Garage4age there is definitely power gained by evacuating the crankcase.
@suzukisport1 Жыл бұрын
Hilux has been on a serious diet I see
@Garage4age Жыл бұрын
was a touch heavy still
@justinwilliams1333 Жыл бұрын
I’d much prefer your midrange over the power loss.
@wiltse0 Жыл бұрын
video idea, make an exhaust using nothing but a bunch of different resonators
@needmoreboost6369 Жыл бұрын
I’d like to see your engine in one of these on track it could see some advantage in acceleration
@Eduardo_Espinoza Жыл бұрын
The sound reminds me of a nfsu2 Dyno session.
@bobawatsit Жыл бұрын
Just a couple of things - is the Atlantic on carbs and ign management system ? I bet the Atlantic is a straight cut gearbox , probably more rolling resistance with the Atlantic tyres - so +/- for true comparisons ..... but a good result ! Just out of interest, when the Ford Cosworth DFV entered the arena in 1966, almost 60 years ago, it produced 157 bhp / lt with 3 arc cams ! gradually moving up to around 170
@Garage4age Жыл бұрын
Its a later version with the trd efi system circa 1989. still runs the original ecu
@jonathanduplooy9503 Жыл бұрын
Dude your 4age mid range destroyed that formula motor, you are a 4age Titan... I wish you could tune my 20v man.. I'd have so much better numbers.. Well done dude
@TomoReso Жыл бұрын
Well thats interesting, and impressive. I wonder how would the comparison look like with swapped exhaust headers. Formula ones look wider and longer.
@Garage4age Жыл бұрын
probably one of the biggest differences between them power curve wise, is the headers & exhaust. going by other setup's i've tested on my engines. The atlantic setup would make my power curve look pretty similar. lose a stack of bottom end and possibly gain a touch up top. I didn't measure but the atlantic look to be similar length if not a touch shorter and diameter is bigger.
@Mike-ry4ti Жыл бұрын
It's cool but these days one can build the same level, or better engine in your garage and you have shown that👍👍👍
@ricardosingh3706 Жыл бұрын
The Atlantic engine has less drive train looses as well no propsharft
@mrcrafcik4013 Жыл бұрын
Hi, I am writing to you for help. You are able to advise on how to set the ignition on a Fiat 1.4 16v engine. The engine is controlled by the speduino. I have a preliminary map to send. The engine is stock, I would like to add some power to it. I would be grateful for any advice. I am waiting for a response
@subiekoala5026 Жыл бұрын
Hell yeah, that is crazy, tbh imo for the difference in peak power of 6hp your engine would be better since got more mid range
@subiekoala5026 Жыл бұрын
15kw or so difference atleast at 5000rpm
@BigCarKilla Жыл бұрын
The Atlantic has a smooth as butter power curve from a bit over 7 to the high 9’s, where your motor is all over the place in comparison. Are those peaks and troughs noticeable on the road?
@Garage4age Жыл бұрын
mine has had the big cams thrown at it without much tweaks or anything to smooth it out. kinda a non issue as its all getting changed. the bump right at the end is a dyno issue
@BigCarKilla Жыл бұрын
@@Garage4age good to hear - will be keen to see what’s next!
@Jamaniak Жыл бұрын
Fuck yes!
@DatBlueHusky Жыл бұрын
wow thats crazy! I thought the atlantic engine was 300hp
@Garage4age Жыл бұрын
Internet myths. its borderline not possible to make 300hp with 10000rpm on any na 1600cc. would have to hold the peak torque it makes at 8000rpm (which is right up there with whats possible to make per liter on a na engine) to over 10000rpm before it would make 300hp at engine.
@dtengineering1 Жыл бұрын
Respect! Thanks for sharing
@ianvital8834 Жыл бұрын
Well now how did Bunta from the Initial d got to hold them formula 4age
@therealmudafuka7200 Жыл бұрын
Oh yeah, now we're screamin'
@ToreDL87 Жыл бұрын
Not to take (too big of a) jab at Loynings, but anyone can tell if it was 2 identical cars side by side at Tsukuba or something, that motor would lose out to yours. Peak numbers aside they're outright losing to a shed-built motor with half the money put in it, if even that 😂 Let us know how the BC rods are holding up when you've got some hours on them, I've been on the fence about those! Rebuilding a Gr.A motor and want at least as good parts back in it as it had when it exploded (by a previous custodian).
@Garage4age Жыл бұрын
Engine already had 2-3000km on it from when it was previously in the car. wasn't reving it quite as hard though. The atlantic would be quicker in its intended purpose. since would be in those last 3000rpm pretty much the whole time. something like a rally car mine would be the pick.
@ToreDL87 Жыл бұрын
@@Garage4age 2-3k KM's at the pace I think you're putting on sounds *very* respectable! Reinforced beefier ARP bolts or did the 2K suffice? And yeah, I was thinking something like N2 AE86's, which actually has and is happening, guys putting in either FA engine swaps, or the TRD catalogue, and lost/losing out to privateer built Toda motors for that exact reason, better mid-range. Of course didn't mean to be utterly unfair, for one that car is t h i c (and well cared for, it found a good custodian), and for Toyota Formula Atlantic, up against it's peers, I reckon that Loynings motor would give *anyone* a run for their money! 😁
@Garage4age Жыл бұрын
@@ToreDL87 rod bolts are whatever the rods come with at the time. the engine was built about 3 years ago. has been in storage for a got part of that. mains and headstuds are arp
@samdemond1 Жыл бұрын
Bet that exhaust manifold flows a tad better than yours. Shows how good your tuning is. Be nice to have an atlantic car.
@Garage4age Жыл бұрын
Exhaust setup is one of the main reasons why mine makes more bottom end. using the atlantic setup on my engine would make the power curve look very similar to the atlantic's
@SidewaysGts Жыл бұрын
Y'know, with that comparison at the end- when you factor in drivetrain loss...
@Garage4age Жыл бұрын
Haha i dont like to guess. but his atlantic made 254hp on engine dyno when built. so showing about 11% less on my rollers. which are the numbers I usually guess for mine to get to engine hp if someone asks
@kenninsantana Жыл бұрын
Im just curious can Hasslegren make a 4age Formula Atlantic for street use obviously without the race internals. Just to get like about 200hp or 220hp at max. Because doing rebuilds is no fun. I have a ae86 and would love that in the future. Pure goals
@Garage4age Жыл бұрын
imo if change anything from the "formula atlantic" spec. its not a formula atlantic. but thats not a bad thing. my engine has zero parts in common with the atlantic engine, other than the block itself. plenty of off the shelf parts out there now, to build something more suited to a street car.
@IIIRotor Жыл бұрын
damnit... gota get my dyno going again...
@rimka11 Жыл бұрын
It looks like you are reaching the limit on your 4age. Or are you going to eventually make more power on your engine than the formula spec one?
@Garage4age Жыл бұрын
I'm happy with the peak power it makes. but will be adding to the midrange power. its at the point going for more peak is going to hurt the mid range, well at least the easy way to do it will.
@Doogleraia Жыл бұрын
The spare wheels though 😂😂
@Dane33781 Жыл бұрын
I have wanted to know how yours stacked up to one of these for a while. Where you able to learn anything new from the formula atlantic engine that could be used on yours?
@Garage4age Жыл бұрын
Not really, everything on them is tuned to work at high rpm. Wont work for what im trying to do. smaller cams and vvti is the next move
@Dane33781 Жыл бұрын
@@Garage4age I thought the "good" engine had vvti. I just assumed it did because of the fantastic numbers. I would be more than happy to make ar cones for your exhaust runners if you would try them out at some point. What's your primary tube diameter? I've seen gains on the bottom and mid range before especially on setups with lots of overlap. You might be able to keep your current cams but improve your curve anyway. I would predict that the strange dips in your curve would be improved. I'm not trying to sell anything either, I just want to see the gains. Let me know please.
@Garage4age Жыл бұрын
@@Dane33781 only my test engine has had vvti. The 318 intake cam is a no go with vvti. Clearance issues and only works over a small window of cam timing. I've actually already come up with a cam combo that will work with vvti, that comes on 500rpm earlier. Not really concerned about the wiggly power curve. Will sort itself out when have vvti. Some of its lack of airbox and the way the intake is tuned. Also the bump right at end isn't the engine.
@maxsinventions8913 Жыл бұрын
Are you ever going to release a how-to or a kit to add vvt to the 4a? Yes or no thanks. 😆
@Garage4age Жыл бұрын
All of the above. Yes, no and maybe. Working on version 3 at the moment.
@Very_Low_Team Жыл бұрын
No bad, no bad
@AlexAlex-pm1jt Жыл бұрын
Что-то с моментом не понятно. Полка больно уж красивая))) а цифра маленькая
@sugizotakuro Жыл бұрын
Your engine looks to jave more usable power in the mids
@ryandull6581 Жыл бұрын
so your engine has cams, coil on plug, better blow by venting and deleted distributor I imagine is that everything? also what ecu/wiring harness do you run
@Garage4age Жыл бұрын
I put the test engines spec list in description, you'll have to go back to my previous video to see it. i didn't put it in this one. but in short, most parts in my engine aren't stock. but at same time all different to what the atlantic runs
@James_Maguire Жыл бұрын
Would you ever consider making and selling exhaust manifold? I'm building a kp60 starlet right now with a 4age 16v and I would love to have a similar proven setup .
@Garage4age Жыл бұрын
I made a batch of them awhile back. If things get quiet i may do another. not looking like thats going to be anytime soon though
@James_Maguire Жыл бұрын
@@Garage4age if you were to do it again would it be announced here or is there any other social media I should keep an eye on
@Garage4age Жыл бұрын
@@James_Maguire I put them up on my Instagram last time
@tiitsaul9036 Жыл бұрын
Sick. Does the formula have less driveline losses? Why doesn’t the formula have the dip at high rpm?
@swiftdb4 Жыл бұрын
I'd pick the Atlantic has less driveline losses being a transaxle, but the same time it has some packaging constraints for the inlet and exhaust. So it probably all ends up about the same.
@Garage4age Жыл бұрын
hard to say. the atlantic car has a transaxle bolted straight to engine. so should have less loss that your standard rwd. but the slicks probably have a bit more rolling resistance than my road tyres. im also running in 4th gear which is 1:1. input shaft locked to output. the weird stuff at the end of runs on my car is the dyno starting to have a mare. doesn't like going that fast. you can assume it just starts to taper off slowly after 9500
@mikemikeyee Жыл бұрын
Same dynos as well?
@abrayprasetyo9067 Жыл бұрын
Wow
@mickaeldometille8916 Жыл бұрын
Concerning the cylinder head on the base of this atlantic 4age it's a big port (early) or small port ? What specs ?
@swiftdb4 Жыл бұрын
Big port with normal Atlantic specs
@TurbineResearch Жыл бұрын
Now imagine it with a turbo 😍
@REDLINEBECKONZ Жыл бұрын
Ill take the garage 4age built one... What management is the fa running?
@swiftdb4 Жыл бұрын
Running a bespoke TRD ecu made by EFI USA circa 1989.
@NEGATIV-MI16 Жыл бұрын
this 1.6 atmo? what kind of fuel is used?
@swiftdb4 Жыл бұрын
Avgas and 1598cc
@scottallpress3818 Жыл бұрын
Looks like they need a vvt upgrade ……
@Shreyaasreyli Жыл бұрын
Make sure to rev it up to 11000 rpm 💀
@charade993 Жыл бұрын
Hi!
@Garage4age Жыл бұрын
hi
@uncleputes Жыл бұрын
Seems your engine would be heaps better at delivering tofu than the Formula Atlantic
@Garage4age Жыл бұрын
This is true
@tomasgustafsson1811 Жыл бұрын
A think the "good engine" will outperform the other at the track....look at the power gains at 4700-6200rpm range...out of the corners...;) ....and remeber there is 2 corners on every straight line !
@swiftdb4 Жыл бұрын
Shifts are 7500-9000 between gears which is where most of the time is spent. The car only weighs 450kg so is more grip limited than power limited in the slow corners, by the time it hits the exit curb its up over 7500rpm.
@Garage4age Жыл бұрын
As James says, the atlantic engine would be quicker in its intended purpose. since will be sitting in the last 3000rpm pretty much the whole time. street, rally, drift. my engine would be the pick. so both best where they are
@tomasgustafsson1811 Жыл бұрын
@@swiftdb4 fast tracks ! ;)
@wanmuhammadfakhrullahwan8078 Жыл бұрын
👍👍😁😁,,
@Clickyman_YT5 ай бұрын
Ae86 anybody?
@dicksandballsnshit3856 Жыл бұрын
Ok but when are you going to show us the content we REALLY want to see?
@jacksonbermingham2168 Жыл бұрын
I USE MY PRIMARY FOR DAYS...
@simond7582 Жыл бұрын
11000 RPM to get Buntas respect
@sublunacy Жыл бұрын
basically slower then miata. 75ftlbs
@Garage4age Жыл бұрын
you are looking at the power scale. its 140ftlb at 8000rpm or probably 155 ish at engine if added driveline loss