Replacing bushings with bearings - how does that affect the suspension?

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Garage 54

Garage 54

Күн бұрын

If anybody is looking for a Russian way to make their car better riding and more fun to drive.
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@thehomelessproject3784
@thehomelessproject3784 3 жыл бұрын
These guys are actually genius answering questions nobody's ever asked but realise we all should have 👀
@janeblogs324
@janeblogs324 3 жыл бұрын
Um 90% of drift and race cars already have bearings instead of rubber bushes
@HalfdeadRider
@HalfdeadRider 3 жыл бұрын
@@janeblogs324 I doubt they change them all to bearings for drift cars (maybe some, I don't know a lot about drift car setups), definitely not for race cars (doubt they do at all), makes zero sense, as you see the results, not good for handling in the slightest. Usually you change them for stiffer bushes for better handling.
@lidge1994
@lidge1994 3 жыл бұрын
@@HalfdeadRider You mean the Polyurethane one? I just learned today that they give you more control, but increase the noise and vibrations, so I guess you need to choose which you prefer, before I thought that they were just an upgrade everyone should do..they're not!
@HalfdeadRider
@HalfdeadRider 3 жыл бұрын
@@lidge1994 oh no they are not something to put on a Rolls Royce Phantom 😂 Tuners used to always use them, some still do, and yes the ride will be rough, especially on the road.
@lidge1994
@lidge1994 3 жыл бұрын
@@HalfdeadRider I'm not very well versed in the mechanics of a car, but I'm slowly learning more, basically it's only to be done for performance, 90% of the time for track/drift/off-road cars and not for comfort, correct? For comfort you can replace them all but should get quality rubber ones?
@aseheavyindustries798
@aseheavyindustries798 3 жыл бұрын
i HIGHLY doubt that man was actually saying "holy cow"
@FangBlah
@FangBlah 3 жыл бұрын
Aye, you know it was a holy four letter word. :D
@PrayItForwardAGAPE
@PrayItForwardAGAPE 3 жыл бұрын
RUSSIAN so you know he said BEAR.
@ElAnikilador001
@ElAnikilador001 3 жыл бұрын
More like Suka blyat!!!
@BotijoRural
@BotijoRural 3 жыл бұрын
Holy shiiiitttttt
@ellenorbjornsdottir1166
@ellenorbjornsdottir1166 3 жыл бұрын
translator is urod
@mikeanthonybrooks
@mikeanthonybrooks 3 жыл бұрын
I can imagine this guy's mechanics showing up to work and wondering, "what the hell else is he gonna make us do besides actually fix cars today???"
@archangel3237
@archangel3237 3 жыл бұрын
I imagine the youtube money pays their salaries quite well
@mor4y
@mor4y 3 жыл бұрын
You sometimes catch a view of some very nice cars being worked on in the background..... i suspect this garage actually does quite well from normal car work, and this is maybe just some great advertising for their crazy skills I mean if loads of garages say "we can't do that, sorry", the one garage that *can* do anything will come to mind 😉
@TheAsheybabe89
@TheAsheybabe89 3 жыл бұрын
@@irgant how did they get money for all of this equipment then? Is this a front for da mafia!?
@grzegorzzawadzki3693
@grzegorzzawadzki3693 3 жыл бұрын
Garage 54 next month: "Inflating tyre with accordion".
@robmarrin6720
@robmarrin6720 3 жыл бұрын
😂😂😂👍❤️Great comment for a great video,
@boodro2122
@boodro2122 3 жыл бұрын
"Inflating tire with accordion while playing National Anthem of Russia" lol "over inflating with Rammstein"!!! Lol
@mumbles552
@mumbles552 3 жыл бұрын
They've already done it using foam!
@elvine2149
@elvine2149 3 жыл бұрын
For one time, this lada doesn't look too damaged, the interior is clean, the paint is OK, just need to replace the front bumper.
@jonwaterbury3312
@jonwaterbury3312 3 жыл бұрын
You obviously are a Lada aficionado...
@station240
@station240 3 жыл бұрын
Give it 3 or 4 episodes, and it will be a rusty junker somewhere.
@simpleinverso8628
@simpleinverso8628 3 жыл бұрын
@@station240 give it 5 more and it will probably become a homemade rocketship
@renfrewdashcam1177
@renfrewdashcam1177 3 жыл бұрын
They do look fun in the snow being rwd and super simple repairs you could just rip it and if it breaks who gives a shit fix it and break it again
@mohabatkhanmalak1161
@mohabatkhanmalak1161 3 жыл бұрын
Thats the early type Lada, I like it too, very Russian. If one came on the market, would grab it.I also like the Lada engines, very rugged and simple.
@heisenberg5212
@heisenberg5212 3 жыл бұрын
You guys do things that no one else thinks off, that's why I love this channel 👍
@jasonbay13
@jasonbay13 3 жыл бұрын
but i'd thought of doing this before while replacing the suspension on my car. was thinking if this is supposed to rotate, why not use bearings. and here i thought it was mostly cost and that you want a little flexibility for dampening hard impacts to keep from snapping something.
@BobMonkeypimp
@BobMonkeypimp 3 жыл бұрын
@@jasonbay13 Where's your video?
@LucasMp
@LucasMp 3 жыл бұрын
I'd just like to take a sec and appreciate how hard this man is sending that in a car without either bushings or shocks...in the fucking SNOW.
@lahoozer6694
@lahoozer6694 3 жыл бұрын
Someone sponsor these boys a set of king coilers and triple bypass shocks... Baja Lada
@leemilica
@leemilica 3 жыл бұрын
Bada
@boodro2122
@boodro2122 3 жыл бұрын
Has a nice ring to it. "Baha Lada". Nice...
@hobojesus9817
@hobojesus9817 3 жыл бұрын
Lajada
@tomtheplummer7322
@tomtheplummer7322 3 жыл бұрын
Just add stiffer springs and shocks, then it’s off to the track and g testing on the skid pad. 🤷‍♂️
@Sak-zo1ui
@Sak-zo1ui 3 жыл бұрын
It would destroy the dampers though.
@robivlahov
@robivlahov 3 жыл бұрын
@@Sak-zo1ui alot of race cars have uniball suspension bits my brother's clio has its whole front suspension on bearing s instead of bushings , and with nicely setup kw v2 it handles superbly
@Sak-zo1ui
@Sak-zo1ui 3 жыл бұрын
@@robivlahov they are called heim joints.
@wobblysauce
@wobblysauce 3 жыл бұрын
Yep, needs a different damper/rebound.
@rkstreeter
@rkstreeter 3 жыл бұрын
@@Sak-zo1ui also aircraft joints .. Spherical rod end brgs
@johngaltline9933
@johngaltline9933 3 жыл бұрын
First half of video, Me thinking 'alright, lets see how it does with stronger shocks to make up for the loss of resistance from the bushings. Garage54: Let's remove the shocks.
@AgneDei
@AgneDei 3 жыл бұрын
Very good idea. Those bearing bushes work like super low resistance racing metal bushings (those also have zero play, no dampening effect, and way less resistance than rubber bushings). Those would work great with super hard springs (170-200% of factory tension), and high end shock absorber's with regulated negative rebound dampening (that fixes the suspension knock, and usually offers a bit more travel). Additionally on racing versions of suspensions for normal cars generally the suspension arms/wishbones always get reinforced with additional welded metal plates to make them resistant to twisting and breaking in weak points). One last thing to get a complete suspension package is addition of hard anti-roll bars with hard polyurethane bushings (due to the way they move even on racing cars those usually don't get metal bushings). At the end of the day you'd end up with a tarmac track ultimate driver's machine lada, epic :D
@vincentrobinette1507
@vincentrobinette1507 3 жыл бұрын
They're called "Heim joints". They allow rotational movement on any axis, but don't have any longitudinal play whatsoever. The only reason they're not used in street cars, is that the couple road noise into the cars chassis, making a very noisy ride. The do, however maintain suspension geometry, and would make it handle like a sports car.
@ragingking1424
@ragingking1424 Жыл бұрын
Do u think a dual rate coil would fix the knock or would u need new coils and shocks?
@klaytonpavlik
@klaytonpavlik 3 жыл бұрын
The amount of work these guys put into this channel is crazy
@snap_oversteer
@snap_oversteer 3 жыл бұрын
It still surprises me that Ladas have double wishbone suspension lmao
@dietznutz1
@dietznutz1 3 жыл бұрын
Lol you’d expect it to be leaf springs and a torsion beam or whatever (I know nothing about suspension)
@viper3997
@viper3997 3 жыл бұрын
They're derived from the good old fiat 124 that was quite a wonderful car back in the day, it had all of these tasty choices and also four disk brakes
@SwapBlogRU
@SwapBlogRU 3 жыл бұрын
@@viper3997 the rear disc brakes they replaced with drums when converting the Lada 2101 for its duty in the USSR, apparently they were better suited to those harsh conditions.
@siraff4461
@siraff4461 3 жыл бұрын
@@SwapBlogRU Probably a good decision. Drums don't suffer as badly from rust and don't fade so easily if they get wet. If the climate is cold and they aren't going onto a race car drums make a lot of sense.
@petermolnar8667
@petermolnar8667 3 жыл бұрын
@@siraff4461 I prefer drums too, they last much longer. Btw Ladas also got a raised suspension (compared to the Fiat)
@icommandoi145
@icommandoi145 2 жыл бұрын
It sounds like a great improvement for ride comfort, and to make it work better you just need stiffer springs to absorb the additional movement. Maybe even upgrading the shocks to something better would do magic to this setup. You're onto something :D
@januarioqueiroz3122
@januarioqueiroz3122 3 жыл бұрын
This guy is full of a good humor, certainly a very good fella.
@leethomas9549
@leethomas9549 3 жыл бұрын
I have to ask myself why I'm watching a Russian mechanic video translated by Kermit the Frog on a Friday afternoon.
@BigGreezyJake
@BigGreezyJake 3 жыл бұрын
Ahahahaha!!
@jamescrud
@jamescrud 3 жыл бұрын
Now I can't unhear it. Thanks.
@grifinorange
@grifinorange 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah that cant be unheard
@MRTuning704
@MRTuning704 3 жыл бұрын
I can’t Unhear it you asshole xD
@drivewith_jon
@drivewith_jon 3 жыл бұрын
Currently
@warrior8154
@warrior8154 3 жыл бұрын
Lmfao they never fail to impress me
@civicsr2cool
@civicsr2cool 3 жыл бұрын
Seriously, I’d have ran out of ideas by episode 3 lol
@GhostOfDamned
@GhostOfDamned 3 жыл бұрын
Same lmao
@warrior8154
@warrior8154 3 жыл бұрын
@@civicsr2cool XDDD
@forbiddenera
@forbiddenera 3 жыл бұрын
Right? This ones actually pretty creative. I wouldn't have thunk it
@D.H038
@D.H038 3 жыл бұрын
Episode with lead inside the wheels makes my cry 😂😂😂😂 best hilarious thing i saw so far 💯
@SantaClaw
@SantaClaw 3 жыл бұрын
New Springs and new adjustable sport shocks, would be interesting
@BuildSomethingAuto
@BuildSomethingAuto 3 жыл бұрын
As someone who just finished replacing the bushings in their radius arms with heim joints (similar concept), this is actually very informative!! My takeaways are that if he had proper bump stops and limit straps set so the shock wasn't bottoming out or overextending, and if he added a bit more damping with some more serious shocks this would have worked incredibly well. The way the wheel was able to cycle up and down so rapidly on the small bumps resembled something with MUCH more serious suspension then that little thing (8:03). One thing he didn't mention though is that I'm sure it would transfer MUCH more road vibration, clunks, rattles, to the cab since bushings dampen that as well. Guess that was the least of his worries on a road like that haha. Never seen this channel before, thanks for bringing this guys antics into english for us! 👍
@MathCuriousity
@MathCuriousity Жыл бұрын
I love the way this guy breaks things down for beginners so we can both enjoy the content and understand how cars work!!! I also love the genuine happiness this guy gets from his experiments.
@TheBonsaiZone
@TheBonsaiZone 3 жыл бұрын
That's a cool Lada, I actually like it!
@adibbarrirulyanto736
@adibbarrirulyanto736 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah same
@TheAmericanUhate
@TheAmericanUhate 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah I like that one a Lada too
@chrissanders2562
@chrissanders2562 3 жыл бұрын
I have an 81 chevette that reminds me of a lada.
@krzysztofwyszkowski1
@krzysztofwyszkowski1 3 жыл бұрын
thought the same, was hoping they would not destroy it.
@Chris-yy7qc
@Chris-yy7qc 3 жыл бұрын
I like it too! It looks like the cars I drew when I was a kid. 😄
@HotRod16
@HotRod16 3 жыл бұрын
Host: Yey yey yey, omg help me, I'm crashin. Translator : That's pretty cool.
@joe125ful
@joe125ful 3 жыл бұрын
Ahahahahahaha:):)
@ATEMOFFROAD
@ATEMOFFROAD 3 жыл бұрын
I’m here for the awesom Mods and the performance testing! Nice edit, cheers
@WHATSUPWATSON
@WHATSUPWATSON 3 жыл бұрын
Beautiful car. Try maximum Toe in/Toe out and see how long tyres last.
@jasonbay13
@jasonbay13 3 жыл бұрын
and gas mileage
@shawn7889
@shawn7889 3 жыл бұрын
I feel like the tie rods will go before the tires.
@Volksoner619
@Volksoner619 3 жыл бұрын
They wouldn’t last long, But too much toe in makes it hard to drive. When I do spindle lifts if I don’t eyeball the toe before driving the truck to the alignment rack it feels really unsafe. You wouldn’t want to drive the tires to failure just because it drives so sketchy.
@madmax2069
@madmax2069 3 жыл бұрын
Lmao when they removed the shocks it reminded me of uncle bucks car.
@albaanisissi702
@albaanisissi702 3 жыл бұрын
You know, round lamped lada like that is around 2000€ in finland...
@woofgbruk5947
@woofgbruk5947 3 жыл бұрын
I love the "what if we . ." factor of this channel!
@oxulucozcan4923
@oxulucozcan4923 3 жыл бұрын
10:32 "why is this thing so darty?" I haven't got something to say. I just wanted this nugget of a line to be acknowledged by the future generations.
@Bob-Whiting
@Bob-Whiting 3 жыл бұрын
You guys should have replaced the shocks, with heavy duty versions.
@lahoozer6694
@lahoozer6694 3 жыл бұрын
King adjustable. BAJA LADA
@mrmoola3970
@mrmoola3970 3 жыл бұрын
Doubled them up..even better
@Bob-Whiting
@Bob-Whiting 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I think the real reason they don't use the bearings everywhere is A: they cost more/less profit and B: there's no real way to seal in the grease. So you would have to use the sealed bearings raising the cost even further.
@modarkthemauler
@modarkthemauler 3 жыл бұрын
@@Bob-Whiting google "johnny joint" Offroaders like em.
@Bob-Whiting
@Bob-Whiting 3 жыл бұрын
@@modarkthemauler Fuck yeah bro, Thanks! one of 'em looks like the type I would need for my upper control arm on my 4x4! Thank you.
@UsmanShahidMahmood
@UsmanShahidMahmood 3 жыл бұрын
Fit so many gear boxes in series and make slowest and powerful car
@sc0tte1-416
@sc0tte1-416 3 жыл бұрын
This might be a good idea
@toto29620
@toto29620 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah great idea ! Just put 3 or 4 un series instead of the driveshaft and put all the lever one next to the other
@terminalfx
@terminalfx 3 жыл бұрын
Garage54 + WhistlinDiesel collab = epic
@jonwaterbury3312
@jonwaterbury3312 3 жыл бұрын
You sir, are now an american hot rodder, russian style! Love your videos, you guys always amaze and defy!
@Felix-bj9et
@Felix-bj9et 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome video! Actually, I once had the chance to take a very close look at a Porsche GT3 Cup and guess what, Porsche replaced many (if not all) rubber bushings by bearings because it gives you a more direct behaviour and a more precise suspension movement. Greetings from Germany!
@MrBEA-wp2pf
@MrBEA-wp2pf 3 жыл бұрын
Awsome experiment! Always amazed (and appreciative of) the amount of work you guys goto for these experiments!! This one was a bit of a surprise to me because the suspension motion/geometry isn't usually so linear or in one axis as the motion of a bearing. Really cool stuff!
@davidhumpherson4904
@davidhumpherson4904 3 жыл бұрын
So glad you removed the shocks. I was shouting " Throw away the shocks!" Thanks for the content guys😀👍
@tootsitroll9785
@tootsitroll9785 2 жыл бұрын
Man this channel is strong ! It has a strong concept this could be a production on t.v. It’s like junk yard wars…. Ok now since I made that comparison this show is f$&@) awesome ! They need to do something more with this. Has all the hallmarks of a good show.
@MrFredscrap
@MrFredscrap 3 жыл бұрын
"it does better on jumps" Rally Drivers: WRITE THAT DOWN! WRITE THAT DOWN!!!
@psycocavr
@psycocavr 3 жыл бұрын
I drove my old Jeep CJ7 without front shocks for a while and the biggest problem I had is it would start bouncing up and down and the only way to stop it was literally to stop the vehicle
@hillaryclinton2415
@hillaryclinton2415 3 жыл бұрын
Welcome to death wobble
@jfv65
@jfv65 3 жыл бұрын
Some Citroen cars had ball bearings in the control arms from the factory. It creates a lot less stiction and less friction in the suspention movement, just like on the Lada. That really improved the way the hydropneumatic suspention worked.
@user-or9ey2ld6s
@user-or9ey2ld6s 3 жыл бұрын
I didn‘t know bushings were so important to the suspension. I really learned something here! Thanks.
@El_Chompo
@El_Chompo 3 жыл бұрын
What a cool idea to replace the bushings with bearings. It was very interesting how it improved the performance over the rough road like you said, except it was just a little too soft since normally the bushings resist the movement so the shock has to do less. It sounds like if you just put in stiffer shocks to make up for the bushings being bearings, it might actually be a good upgrade for cars in general for high performance handling over rough roads at least if not also for racing and everything. It would make sense because you would have such more precise control over the car suspension travel and you could really tune the shock to perfection without having to take into account springy rubber intermediate parts affecting the suspension tune. I wonder how it works for cars with the aftermarket poly hard bushings. Then it's basically just a journal bearing at that point?
@generalelectricmotor9084
@generalelectricmotor9084 3 жыл бұрын
This is how a Lada would preform in a cartoon🤣
@janisbibers
@janisbibers 3 жыл бұрын
There's a good reason why bushings are used in street cars - reduced noise, vibration, and harshness. Bearings are used in race cars where it doesn't matter ... for a long time.
@kevinacla8291
@kevinacla8291 3 жыл бұрын
Man, they are the best gurus here in terms of an experiment in cars, keep up the good work sir.
@Mckhus
@Mckhus 3 жыл бұрын
Find huge industrial bearings and replace front wheels with set of those with hub welded shut
@kennethsamson1759
@kennethsamson1759 3 жыл бұрын
That moment you realise the front hubs are already turned by an industrial bearing
@oxulucozcan4923
@oxulucozcan4923 3 жыл бұрын
@@kennethsamson1759 he talks about bypassing the hub and using a big bearing "instead" of the wheel.
@kennethsamson1759
@kennethsamson1759 3 жыл бұрын
@@oxulucozcan4923 fuck maybe we should glue a piece of rubber around it so it dont bend and bust too easily eh?
@kestans
@kestans 3 жыл бұрын
the moment of microsecond he could lose his hand
@frank1990007
@frank1990007 3 жыл бұрын
I used to laugh at safety, Now they call me "Three-Finger Joe"
@_justsomedude
@_justsomedude 3 жыл бұрын
Shake hands with danger
@clintchapman4319
@clintchapman4319 3 жыл бұрын
Love that real world testing! That's a good way to learn how a car's suspension works!
@dezsovoros3663
@dezsovoros3663 3 жыл бұрын
This is the best channel ever I'm in the kitchen next to the fridge at 22:50pm drinking diet pepsi
@dezsovoros3663
@dezsovoros3663 3 жыл бұрын
That's how u know its great
@JoaoPedro-zq8me
@JoaoPedro-zq8me 3 жыл бұрын
TRY REAR WHEEL STEERING ON A LADA !
@iansexpiramentaion5286
@iansexpiramentaion5286 3 жыл бұрын
I had an idea I remember the wood pistons, I don't remember the wood you used but, I was wondering of iron wood might last longer. I had a pipe once that was made of iron wood, It was very hard wood and it's very resistant to fire
@dickJohnsonpeter
@dickJohnsonpeter 3 жыл бұрын
Oh yea that grows around here. It's rare to find one of those trees though. Someone was telling me about this tree in South America where the wood is so hard it makes ironwood seem soft. I wish I could remember what it was called.
@BobMonkeypimp
@BobMonkeypimp 3 жыл бұрын
@@dickJohnsonpeter StainlessSteelWood.
@240sxRule
@240sxRule 3 жыл бұрын
Need lignum Vitae
@dickJohnsonpeter
@dickJohnsonpeter 3 жыл бұрын
@@BobMonkeypimp titaniumwood
@Todd_G_FPV
@Todd_G_FPV 3 жыл бұрын
Can smoke all day and do dumb shit to cars lol sounds like a good day
@baileyrivers636
@baileyrivers636 3 жыл бұрын
It amazes me so many people have no idea how to correctly pack the bearings with grease .lucky they lasted as long as they did
@bellakorty1334
@bellakorty1334 3 жыл бұрын
Those Lada's will never die.
@tomaspinto7079
@tomaspinto7079 3 жыл бұрын
You need to do a really nice suspension lada , like a rally spec suspension
@lahoozer6694
@lahoozer6694 3 жыл бұрын
BAJA LADA
@tomaspinto7079
@tomaspinto7079 3 жыл бұрын
@@lahoozer6694 I think we are onto something here
@digitalchaos1980
@digitalchaos1980 3 жыл бұрын
I love this idea, great video! Now it's time to replace all the bearings with bushings. Wheel and axle bearings, carrier bearing, etc 😄
@cats4hir3
@cats4hir3 3 жыл бұрын
Now I know what the bushings are there for! Fun and informative videos
@Honey_Daddy
@Honey_Daddy 3 жыл бұрын
When he was mobbing through the snow between the garages and the car was rolling from side to side, i was so nervous that he was going to roll and bounce too hard to either side and smash into one of the garages. Thank god that didnt happen. It was a very stressful situation to watch xD
@that_lil_roadster
@that_lil_roadster 3 жыл бұрын
*Never forget to change your exhaust bearing,it's very important ಡ ͜ ʖ ಡ*
@hdezn26
@hdezn26 3 жыл бұрын
and piston return springs lol.
@TymphaRedbreaduwuowo
@TymphaRedbreaduwuowo 3 жыл бұрын
i have one on my c clasp. if there is none, there is rattle. yeah i can replace the whole pipe, but im not money, im tympha
@thefreedomguyuk
@thefreedomguyuk 3 жыл бұрын
I usually get that done when my car is in for the indicator fluid replacement.
@GonzoDonzo
@GonzoDonzo 3 жыл бұрын
Never forget the blinker fluid
@jordonberkove7438
@jordonberkove7438 3 жыл бұрын
Don't forget to grease the Johnson Rod
@linardskinard8199
@linardskinard8199 3 жыл бұрын
The town he is driving around in reminds me of Queens ,NYC
@derekchauvinisahero2010
@derekchauvinisahero2010 3 жыл бұрын
Nope , no liberal tree hugging pole smokers in Russia
@TheAsheybabe89
@TheAsheybabe89 3 жыл бұрын
@@derekchauvinisahero2010 haven’t heard of Pusyriot I take it? That brand of Leftists are everywhere in varying amounts.
@jeremypike9153
@jeremypike9153 3 жыл бұрын
Dirt track racers install bearings or solid sleeves throughout the suspension on racecars. It helps keep suspension geometry in spec while providing smoother articulation. Dirt cars concentrate on weight distribution and movement to get the traction needed on dirt.
@useitwice
@useitwice 3 жыл бұрын
Haha that looked so dangerous hopping around like that without seatbelt, headrest or airbags! Good thing youre a good driver 👍🏼
@Tomyp89
@Tomyp89 3 жыл бұрын
I've known that spherical bushings are used but actual bearings, damn.
@paddlesaddlelad1881
@paddlesaddlelad1881 3 жыл бұрын
make a car's suspension stiff, in fact remove the springs and replace it with a solid piece of metal edit:guy below has the link to this but its in russian
@bsod4144
@bsod4144 3 жыл бұрын
they did that
@paddlesaddlelad1881
@paddlesaddlelad1881 3 жыл бұрын
@@irgant english?
@rohanpatel4863
@rohanpatel4863 3 жыл бұрын
i always had a thought of replacing suspension bushing with bearing... thank you for testing it out.
@victorsteerup4582
@victorsteerup4582 3 жыл бұрын
Street rodders in America used metal or plastic bushings a long time ago, and found out that the rubber bushings did about 10% of the shock absorbers job.
@donatkurshumlija5664
@donatkurshumlija5664 3 жыл бұрын
11:25 How to remove the springs, THE RUSSIAN WAY
@MegaSockenschuss
@MegaSockenschuss 3 жыл бұрын
12:15 How to amputate a finger or hand, THE RUSSIAN WAY :D
@oli_g_98
@oli_g_98 3 жыл бұрын
KACHOW!
@matsopelle
@matsopelle 3 жыл бұрын
Where can I buy the merch? I need that coffee mug. Edit: on their Vkontakte page, holy crap the mug costs $5 😂 I'm getting ten.
@totalrecone
@totalrecone 3 жыл бұрын
No option for postage to ɐᴉlɐɹʇsn∀ . Booo. The Land Down Under is turning into a 4th World country. I want to move to Russia.
@ryanworkman5229
@ryanworkman5229 3 жыл бұрын
@@totalrecone and here I thought I was the only one watching this. I need to learn to speak Russian, just to watch the originals when they are not so old.
@ryanworkman5229
@ryanworkman5229 3 жыл бұрын
@@irgant Yes I understand that, I only speak English, but have learnt a little from other people, and there are several differences in languages in the way sentences are constructed, but I'm still willing to learn.
@matsopelle
@matsopelle 3 жыл бұрын
@@irgant I have been studying Russian on Duolingo and once you learn the cyrillic alphabets the language is surprisingly straightforward. My native language is Finnish though, and it has some similarities with Russian. I think that's why it feels easyish.
@matsopelle
@matsopelle 3 жыл бұрын
@@irgant Спасибо вам большое, брат! Ваш родной язык очень красивый. Я признаю, что финский язык - непростая задача.
@Mavrik9000
@Mavrik9000 3 жыл бұрын
Oh wow! I thought he was going to spin out and hit one of those garage doors. 10:00. I wanted to see them test it with stiffer shocks.
@JP-gw9ts
@JP-gw9ts 3 жыл бұрын
This channel is surprisingly awesome!
@90ForLifeTeam
@90ForLifeTeam 3 жыл бұрын
I wonder what would happen if you added extra shock absorbers to the experiment?
@hdezn26
@hdezn26 3 жыл бұрын
I think thiers a video where they did just that . . .
@JoeBidenIsNotMyPresident
@JoeBidenIsNotMyPresident 3 жыл бұрын
I wouldn't wanna have to setup preloads on those bearings. That would be a pain in the ass.
@freshfrij0les
@freshfrij0les 3 жыл бұрын
Is that sarcasm?
@JoeBidenIsNotMyPresident
@JoeBidenIsNotMyPresident 3 жыл бұрын
@@freshfrij0les No
@martinda7446
@martinda7446 3 жыл бұрын
I was thinking the same, I guess you just tighten till it stops wigglin' and add a fraction of a turn. I thought they really wasted the test badly. This demanded a nice road so you could test the chassis. I bet it would have been a pretty fine feel with the steering.
@jonathontaylor8861
@jonathontaylor8861 2 жыл бұрын
One of their more interesting and practical experiments.
@AllDayBikes
@AllDayBikes 3 жыл бұрын
6:10 You know you've got a good translator when he does the force behind the push haha, nice.
@filiphart1067
@filiphart1067 3 жыл бұрын
Okay, two questions: Where can I buy the merch? I absolutely need some of that stuff, you guys are simply unmatched. Seconldy - how's the background music in the end of the video called? I like it and I can't find it.
@truthsmiles
@truthsmiles 3 жыл бұрын
Not sure how helpful this will be, but this is an “English translation” channel. The real Russian channel will probably have more info.
@jimmyvaught
@jimmyvaught 3 жыл бұрын
Depends, are you in europe?
@jimmyvaught
@jimmyvaught 3 жыл бұрын
This english channel is way behind so lots of new stuff to watch on the main one.
@s.m.g.9320
@s.m.g.9320 3 жыл бұрын
Like someone else commented, they have merch on their vkontakte page, and as the guy above said if the link ain't on the English channel it might be on their Russian channel
@tommysanders7414
@tommysanders7414 3 жыл бұрын
I wonder how well it would've performed with a heavier rate springs or a stiffer shock or perhaps both
@ejb5034
@ejb5034 3 жыл бұрын
There's a reason to use rubber bushings. They can deform when non-pivotal forces are applied to them as in braking, cornering and acceleration. The only bearings which can do what is needed are spherical bearings that allow movement in 360 degrees. They didn't use spherical bearings or the difference in the ride and handling characteristics wouldn't be so noticeable.
@isickofit
@isickofit 3 жыл бұрын
Swapping nylon bushes for roller bearings in the swingarm pivot of my Honda 750f1 was a life saver.
@benjaminpedersen8110
@benjaminpedersen8110 3 жыл бұрын
These guys are gonna run out of ideas when Russia runs out of ladas.
@PapiDoesIt
@PapiDoesIt 3 жыл бұрын
No, they'll carve one out of wood and keep going.
@Tarmo1998
@Tarmo1998 3 жыл бұрын
russia won't run out of ladas because they are still manufacturing them with that same design😅
@Monni95
@Monni95 3 жыл бұрын
If Russia runs out of Ladas, they just import Euro-Ladas from Finland ;)
@sc0tte1-416
@sc0tte1-416 3 жыл бұрын
The only way they run out of Ladas is because he has destroyed them all 😂
@Jeesus353
@Jeesus353 3 жыл бұрын
@@Monni95 how much are ladas in finland?
@darius2640
@darius2640 3 жыл бұрын
what would happen if you installed aftermarket coilovers with custom really hard springs, like 15-20kg that some drifters like to use, maybe it would compensate for lack of resistance from bushings and it would ride kinda properly if very harsh at that
@eduardobranco5455
@eduardobranco5455 3 жыл бұрын
Greetings from Portugal. You guys finally did it! Cool experiment.
@typicallyvisible1718
@typicallyvisible1718 3 жыл бұрын
I also hope everyone understands the amount of work and effort for this one guy to get other people together to help him make one youtube video, seems like a lot of effort for him... anddddd he gave us almost a myth busters episode amazing, these types of ideas i would never see anywhere else
@Boostiverse
@Boostiverse 3 жыл бұрын
Stiff springs and it would be a “good” track car
@blasterTC
@blasterTC 3 жыл бұрын
would it be the same if shock absorbers and springs on both sides were replaced with accordingly stiffer ones to compensate for the lack of bushings?
@jhsevs
@jhsevs 3 жыл бұрын
This
@dustintunis9347
@dustintunis9347 3 жыл бұрын
It could probably be made to handle very well (for what it is) and extremely consistent, until the bearings fail which some of them would pretty quickly taking hits like that.
@misery13666
@misery13666 3 жыл бұрын
I actually always wondered this. It wouldn't be reliable, but freeing up articulation should always be a good thing. Never thought that the bushings might actually be part of the process, by limiting articulation. Better shocks, or better yet proper hydraulic dampers, might make this work short term for say...a track car. zero unwanted rebound or deflection, and fully smooth articulation would be a boon on a track. Might need better antisway bars too.
@jbcowherder6210
@jbcowherder6210 3 жыл бұрын
that's actually the reason for going to urethane bushings in 4xx4 suspensions. the urethane bushings hold up to the rigors of heavy duty suspension working and allow for a "bearing" type of movement without the need to totally seal out water. solid rubber bushings are great for suspensions with less travel and the need for more precise alignments.
@bitkarek
@bitkarek 3 жыл бұрын
this is like a race suspension.
@jjohnston94
@jjohnston94 3 жыл бұрын
Yep, right down a narrow alley with brick walls on either side is exactly where I want to drive a car with marginal control. 😲
@kasuraga
@kasuraga 3 жыл бұрын
AND in the snow lol
@mileybadman
@mileybadman 2 жыл бұрын
by far the funniest video the intro had me dying and the stupid grin on his face when he was showing us the bearings like he already no its going to be a bad idea
@Xaevi
@Xaevi 2 жыл бұрын
i Would love to see this setup with the bearing bushings with slightly stiffer springs, heavier dampers and stiffer anti roll-bars. I think it would handle even better
@10010Linus
@10010Linus 3 жыл бұрын
lift the suspension taller, keep the suspension with shocks and bearings and you have a rally lada or well, something close enough IMO
@GhostOfDamned
@GhostOfDamned 3 жыл бұрын
The simple way how to turn your car into a lowrider
@mjones3596
@mjones3596 3 жыл бұрын
Make more videos as they are great, you always have great ideas that makes people laugh!
@stevenleslie8557
@stevenleslie8557 3 жыл бұрын
You guys always come through with something! 👍
@UncleDon226
@UncleDon226 3 жыл бұрын
"we lost the front spring" Bro, you almost lost a hand!
@N1withaskillet
@N1withaskillet 3 жыл бұрын
12:16 *hand almost gets crushed by car* 'Right, that was nice.'
@villesoinine9634
@villesoinine9634 3 жыл бұрын
I think this is the first experiment from you that makes sense
@zlendabz4975
@zlendabz4975 3 жыл бұрын
Gloves on for no reason, gloves off for quick weld. Love it 👊
@robmarrin6720
@robmarrin6720 3 жыл бұрын
He's a genius, and with all the subs he's a you tube oligarch in a good way, I love this channel,,, bigger tyre's treads and you have a sand dune buggy 👍
@MauroPereira1000
@MauroPereira1000 3 жыл бұрын
Awsome video! Brazil love you guys!!!
@wills.5762
@wills.5762 3 жыл бұрын
7:27 superb slav squat from the cameraman
@2103i
@2103i 3 жыл бұрын
Wow, nice experiment! I was expecting the rear to be broken as the rods are rotating around two axis as the wheels are moving differently. btw the front track was widened during the action by wheel spacers or similar. Normally you can not see the ball joints on Lada. Keep the good ideas! Put twice as long wishbones!
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