We Fire the Wrong Calibers Through The Wrong Guns

[@KentuckyBallistics]

I feel like I’ve seen this somewhere before, but I can’t seem to put my thumb on it 😂

[@NihilusTheGreat]

It's not a .600 nitro express revolver...but it'll do for now

[@farmered6085]

You mean, you can't put your thumb in it.

[@fell9654]

When are you going to visit Idaho? 😆

[@Nadaters]

🤔🤔🤔

[@RealMTBAddict]

I just hear the whip sound lol

[@demon13doc]

There is an ATF agent somewhere trying to figure out if firing a .50 out of a 12g is a felony and if not how they can make it one.

[@Nurse_Xochitl]

The ATF's goal is to make firing anything a felony, including firing a .22 out of a .22.

[@silvermainecoons3269]

@@Nurse_Xochitl 🙄

[@Starside79]

@@silvermainecoons3269 yeah but you know he's right

[@silvermainecoons3269]

@@Starside79 I’ve never had any encounters with the ATF so I’ll take your word for it.

[@LogicAndCompassion]

​@@silvermainecoons3269 Consider yourself lucky.

[@GeneralAwesome1204]

I work at a gun range and a guy put a mag of 300 blk into his 5.56 which destroyed his upper and magazine. An hour later in the same lane, a guy found some ammo on the ground and put it through his 5.56. It was ammo from the first ar that blew up that day, so it also blew up his rifle. 2 rifles blown up in the same lane an hour apart from the same box of ammo.

[@mrkeogh]

Nice 👍🏻

[@gavinrobinson8925]

how can people be so dull-edged to try and shoot a fat bullet in a skinny barrel, just because it fits.

[@pjdj]

@@gavinrobinson8925 how can you be so stupid to just use ammo on the ground either??? Like both people who got their 5.56 blown up definitely need to get their act together.

[@Sammie1053]

That second guy really, truly learned that actions have consequences

[@1r0zz]

Why pick up ammo from the ground and shoot it? It could be a dud and they are kinda dangerous…

[@HellbirdIV]

4:18 Fudd's Life Hacks: Load the last (first loaded, last to fire) round of your AR-15 mags with .300 Blackout, that way your gun will automatically eject the magazine when you fire the last round.

[@UnknownGamer40464]

Tarkov tip: keep a 300 blackout mag with a few 556 on top so whoever kills you suffers

[@ValdVincent]

@@UnknownGamer40464 Not sure if that works in Tarkov, but it'd be super sound. Guy takes you life, but you take his too.

[@nickjohn5455]

@@UnknownGamer40464 no way they added that detail in lol that would be hilarious

[@lol-ct7xw]

@@nickjohn5455 the gun jams if it has the wrong ammo in it

[@InstructorRandy]

Not the first time you've stuck something where it didn't belong....

[@Wooddsman]

Real

[@Dr.PeterSpielberg]

That one's for the brown stuff to come out

[@UnknownOps]

Speaking from experience?

[@InstructorRandy]

@@UnknownOpsyes!

[@AllenGuthrie]

No such thing as a wrong hole with the right woman

[@Metalhead0283]

You should’ve had a ballistic dummy in front to see the lethality of the 50

[@dannnnnno]

This

[@drshoe8744]

I don't think it would be lethal, it will probably just bounce off, but ballistic dummies are pretty soft in summer.

[@ItsCrap97]

If it fits it fits

[@anubisfox5765]

​@drshoe8744 i think youre crazy lol its still a round fired out of a gun and though slow it was still getting it in slo mo

[@clownworld4655]

If it’s even lethal you’d likely be better off just using .22lr. There’s essentially no chamber pressure behind the round (if there was the shotgun would blow up Kentucky ballistics style)

[@Motoboo_Marine]

The reason the .50 and the 8mm didn't blow up the guns is because the projectiles were smaller than the bore, so all the excess pressure simply escaped around the bullet through the front

[@STMUN]

yep, the gun was just not exposed to those higher pressures the cartridge was designed for because the chamber was not sealed around the projectile and like you said, the gas can expand around the bullet, wider chamber and wider bore

[@Dh4v0c]

Honestly, they're probably just acting surprised for the views.

[@CoreyandCrew]

​@@Dh4v0cyea I think anyone who understands why how a cartridge engages with a bore would know this

[@ethanshipes4786]

lets put some duct tape around the projectile so it is a perfect fit

[@petejones6827]

@@ethanshipes4786 electrical tape would be superior in this application

[@winner200playz3]

"unfortunately for this gun, many things fit into it"

[@robertkubrick3738]

I had one of those Winchester 12ga, 60 years old, we built stuff back then.

[@J.I.R.A]

Video idea: I think it would be interesting to see how much damage a 50 bmg (maybe even 338 Lapua) can cause on a ballistic dummy when shooting it at long ranges (1 mile, 2km, 2 miles, 3.5km record sniper shot, 3 miles, etc). Perhaps you could calculate a rough speed at which the bullet would hit the target for each distance and try to emulate it by loading it with less powder so you can easily take accurate, repeatable shots at short range. Maybe even test how effective different types of armor would be against big caliber rounds at such long ranges. Love your content, take care!

[@Fischer56]

That would be an awesome video

[@DonutVIP]

Oooo that's a much need to watch

[@fell9654]

Wonder if he has 10 miles of gun range or so, to test a "how far Is a 50 bmg lethal" video

[@escaleator]

Was just thinking this the other day. Add 20mm and 25mm to the test!

[@martinsonofwar395]

The actual record shot is 4.4 miles (7.08km)

[@24934637]

I'm incredibly impressed with the build quality of that Henry .410! Massive credit to the maker!

[@midlbrwn15]

No pressure was built because .410 is much larger than .324 (8x57). Same with 50bmg VS 12ga. Most barrels can withstand much, much more pressure than the saami rating... Which is kinda the point.

[@MR-backup]

I guess the saying is true: They don't makem like they used to!

[@G19Jeeper]

@@midlbrwn15exactly. Same reason the .50 didn’t blow up a 12 gauge.

[@kylejheard91]

@@midlbrwn15 the 410 barrel/chamber probably can't handle a full powder load of the 8x57. But the 8mm bullet diameter is smaller than the barrel diameter of the shotgun chamber/barrel. So you get all that gas escaping past the bullet itself relieving a lot of the pressure. Same goes for the 50bmg in the 12 gauge

[@thomasdahlgren1985]

@@midlbrwn15 Cant tell if the case wasn't fully fireformed or if that slight remaining taper is from the forcing cone.

[@aidanacebo9529]

I love how the .50 in the 12 gauge worked. the fireball came out and then the .50 projectile was like "Wait for me!" and came out chasing the fireball like a fat kid chasing an ice cream truck.

[@TheTdw2000]

Makes sense, it doesn't have the pressure seal you need to get a high velocity.

[@mlgtactics9911]

Maybe thats why the guns didn't blow up. If the gunpowder was able to pass the bullet so easily, it probably means the pressure level in the barrel/chamber was reduced.

[@jwwt4]

lol

[@midlbrwn15]

@@mlgtactics9911 yep. 12ga is .73 and bmg is much smaller. The pressure produced by that round wouldn't even come close to detonating that barrel. According to some digging, pumpaction shotgun barrels likely won't even explode till 55k psi. I say likely because not all manufacturers are the same. You can easily push 20k in a shotgun

[@SafeRemain]

@@mlgtactics9911 probably. i wouldnt be able to think of another reason

[@TheAwast2]

The thing with the .50 is its a bottleneck round but in the shotgun the case blows up and looks like a shotgun shell after shooting, so by blowing up the case the pressure is probably waaay less than in a proper weapon for that cartridge

[@danielhowell2075]

Almost like firing it without a barrel... nothing to maintain pressure behind the bullet after it leaves the brass so the force just dissipates in the void around it. Wonder what the difference in chronograph readings would have been?

[@herbert164]

@@danielhowell2075 i am pretty sure it approaches non lethal speeds.

[@Literally_A_B-52]

​@herbert164 one way to find out

[@agentbullwinkle991]

This is why the .300 Blackout was the only one to blow up. .300 caliber = 7.62mm > 5.56mm

[@robertkubrick3738]

@@herbert164 I bet it would be lethal. I fired a .223 from my 7.62X39 AK and recovered the mushroomed 55 grain bullet with no rifling.

[@joshuaspicer8454]

Micah, your dad advice was on point. Time spent with our kids when they're young is soo precious. It goes by way to quick

[@brantonioj1098]

Too

[@asherwoodrow7471]

@@brantonioj1098 that was unnecessary

[@user-vg3yc6gk5f]

Yeah, it was only a 45 minute visit to Planned Parenthood...... it literally flew by. I should have taken more pictures....

[@dickJohnsonpeter]

​@@user-vg3yc6gk5fDid youtube just arbitrarily change your username as well? I had Nordic runes in unicode and now mine is "user-blahblahblah" like yours.

[@warden8573]

The thing about the .50 in the 12 and the 8 mauser in the 410 is the fact that the projectile was so small comparatively to bore diameter that the pressure vented around the projectile which prevented overpressure. its super cool.

[@jeffhutchins7048]

EXACTLY!!!

[@NoblesTx]

I think the cases not splitting also probably helped a smidge

[@MichaelMcGinnes]

I’m kinda shocked they don’t know that.

[@brucekendall9873]

Yeah man. It's a metal tube, and it's slightly smaller, but over pressured 2+2=4. Super cool tho

[@TheMouseCop]

I bought an ar-10 from my ex-wife recently. Came with a loaded mag, I found out when I took it out to the range later on that her new boyfriend doesn’t know the difference between .243 and .308. The rifle shot the round successfully but was wildly inaccurate. It took three attempts to discover that .243 will fire but not cycle through a semiautomatic .308 system. The lesson learned is that if someone, even someone competent, hands you a loaded weapon, always clear the breach and check the rounds.

[@GR-cf4qh]

I've seen .308 fired out of a Moisin Nagant. There were ejection issues, but it did fire. I actually wasn't surprised by the 410 or the 12 gauge not blowing up. The smaller bullets wouldn't seal with the bore and prevented the cartridges from developing their full pressure.

[@wraithwyvern528]

Russian 7.62s (7.62x54R/7.62x39/7.62 Tokarev) are usually around .311 diameter not .308 so it shouldn't blow it up from creating a bore blockage like the .300 BLK does, but the inverse might create some problems if you chamber it.

[@Bruno-cb5gk]

yep, you can even see unburnt powder getting shot out of the barrel

[@johns1625]

You can also fire 30-30 Winchester through a Mosin. Learned this back in they day when I started reloading. Tried it myself and case gets stuck sometimes but that's it.

[@foxmcld584]

Brandon Herrera did it with a Saiga 12g knockoff and a 50 BMG. Same result, and then he put in some 3D printed inserts to make a better seal. It then became a frag grenade.

[@romainpapelier9457]

@@Bruno-cb5gk also you can see the blast before the bullet

[@calvinweese]

These are my favorite type of Garand Thumb videos. Just fucking around, safely, seeing what works, what doesn't and why it does or doesn't.

[@m3m3lina47]

The chemistry between Mike and Micah made me NOT skip the ads. Comedic gold.

[@UpcomingJedi]

I just got an ad blocker since i come here to look at videos, NOT ads. Unless i search for old 1970s ads.

[@gsst4013]

@@UpcomingJedithen don’t watch the ads… you can just skip through them

[@GC_Mars]

I literally NEVER skip ads on GT channel because you never know what he’ll come up with 😂

[@jessewrigley5664]

The fact Micah can barely hold a camera, but is somehow trusted holding a baby is insane to me.

[@Rich45464]

😂😂😂

[@RyuusanFT86]

The fact people tolerate his character at all is even more appalling

[@jimmyrustler8983]

​@@DW133_Trained magpies.

[@reanukeevesau]

​@@RyuusanFT86why?

[@emissaryofelohim1431]

He ain't bad at a Bill drill. Probably better than most parents. Apple Sause ain't Rocket Surgery.

[@matthewhenry6276]

The dad advice is spot on here. Have three boys 11,6 and, 1. I feel like my first sons infancy was over in an instant and I didn’t get to take advantage of it. With my second two and as my oldest has gotten older I’ve learned to take full advantage of all stages of their lives as they come. Congrats Micah on your second.

[@MR-backup]

" Faaauuuuq! Am I that old?!"

[@ericvanswoll4611]

That was some seriously sound dad advice. The only thing I could add to it, is use your camera, it's already in your phone, doesn't cost anything, take advantage, you won't regret it.

[@randallrogers8183]

‘I can’t live without you’. He put everything he had into that line. Hilarious.

[@lukebrock3816]

The relationship between Micha and Mr. Thumb is amazing. The chemistry they have in front of and behind the camera is top notch. You can tell Mr. Thumb is happy that Micha is back and working the camera after paternity leave.

[@uselesschannel51]

"Mr Thumb" 💀

[@DevinTHXC]

bro they are not gonna have sex for you. just letting you know now.

[@tejdz1337]

chemistry behind the camera? how do you know ? sus

[@ThePhrog714]

@@DevinTHXChow do you know they won’t? 😏😏😏

[@jameskirk3]

You can try, but you can't kill a natural born bromance.

[@deusvult6695]

I absolutely love how over the years the white lab coat has gone from pristine white to stained af 😂

[@blackout3133]

Same with Slow Mo Guys

[@quadblaster69420]

It's like the invincible title card!

[@johnbearjunkyard]

That’s how you know real science is happening

[@Daves_Not_Here_Man_76]

first of all lower your voice

[@brianparker9924]

I suggested that they should never wash it. Just hose it off so it wouldn't stink.

[@stevewhisperer6609]

Neat video guys, thanks! Having worked at a large AR manufacturer years ago, one of my favorite customer-induced failures we'd receive were the guys who fired .300 BK from their 5.56 AR. Of the ones I worked on, the bullets were always still in the barrel, ( though a couple were close to exiting, ) and then a special few individuals figured they could shoot the stuck bullet out of the barrel. DON'T ever do this. The damage to the AR was impressive. The 12ga/.50 test was the most intriguing and impressive.

[@agentoffortune74]

That just underscores the importance of identifying the caliber of your AR if you have different calibers. Mine have different color upper receivers.

[@waynejohnson1786]

“Oh there’s an obstruction in my barrel, I’ll just fire another round and push it out. That definitely won’t turn my gun into a hand grenade.”

[@stevem4783]

I'd like to think most gun owners are reasonably intelligent and responsible people, then I see a statement like "figured they could shoot the stuck bullet out of the barrel" aaaaaaaand...

[@DDDYLN]

Apparently I'm old, because I still take my 357 magnum to the range. I thought it was common knowledge that 38 special fires out of a 357 magnum. Since my 357 magnum is an 18.5_oz S&W Scandium frame, titanium cylinder "Mountain Lite", shooting 357 magnum loads start to hurt your hand after awhile. I can shoot about 2 boxes of 50, before my thumb muscle tells me to switch to 38 special. BTW, S&W no longer sells that revolver.

[@krazylegswp]

its honestly surprising and impressive that the 300 blackout round escaped the barrel altogether if yall could have recovered it it was probably nearly 3 inches long after being essentially extruded through a 22 barrel the quality of that barrel is good

[@XxBigDAWG22xX]

Odds are it’s probably left a good amount of material in the gun chamber. I’d say the bullet was a little longer but very little if I had to guess. The others didn’t surprise me. The are higher pressure in a correct chamber but when you increase the space and the bullet doesn’t create friction the pressure is significantly reduced.

[@Argosh]

​@@XxBigDAWG22xXyeah, there's little force when you don't have a pressure seal.

[@keppawolf]

reminds me of squeeze bore cannons lmao

[@johnskiffington9117]

a .30 will never pass thru a .223. I mean, c'mon. No wonder the bottom blew out of the receiver.

[@XxBigDAWG22xX]

@@johnskiffington9117 you can see it pass through in slow mo. Not saying some isn’t left but some did exit

[@nicholaskelley0922]

I’d like to see if .380 +P would cycle the 9mm pistol. Also, I think the shotguns survived because the excess pressure was able to escape around the sides of the bullet since the bullet is smaller than the barrel inner diameter. The wad usually holds the pressure behind shotgun slugs/shot.

[@irodwen]

bingo

[@JustinTheMan369]

I would imagine if you were to put a much weaker recoil spring in a 9mm handgun you may be able to get the .380 ammo to cycle the action and rechamber.

[@sarahwilliams6058]

Justin

[@Gottiline_Ace]

You Definitely can, especially with a lighter frame and slide. Though they still don't like to feed well without a custom mag because of the casing length and spring tension differences.

[@POTUSJimmyCarter]

You could also presumably handload .380 to be a bit hotter, as well.

[@david-468]

@@POTUSJimmyCarter.380 +ppp at that point lol

[@StirlingQShagnasty]

I reload 9mm. I also have a calibration spring set for my 9mm. I'll have to try the lightest recoil spring and load some 9 with a 380 load to see what happens.

[@TarmanTheChampion]

That's a nice CZ, they're such a pleasure to shoot! I found it easier to be precise & consistent with compared to many other common handguns.

[@armyofshea7941]

Expanding gasses from burning powder do not care where they go, they are just pushing against everything. In the case (pun intended) of the 8mm and the 50 cal, the brass was the easiest thing to push. Once it pushed it into the chamber wall there was an easy route around the bullet and out the bore. Cool stuff.

[@zee4265]

13:48 Great advice! I had an old man give me the exact same advice when I first became a father… you just need to appreciate who they are at any given time

[@xxxlonewolf49]

The "wrong" caliber is pretty 'safe'ish' to fire when it's not tight enough to hold the round and MAKE the pressures. Such as the 50BMG out of a 12ga. It's loose enough to let the pressure push past.

[@GodsGladiator]

This!!!!

[@knwright89]

I should not possess this information bahahaha

[@midlbrwn15]

Slight correction. The pressure isn't necessarily slipping past although what pressure does exist will as was evident. The main reason it doesn't explode is because the pressure won't build in the first place. Not to mention shotgun barrels from a decent manufacturer can easily withstand 20k psi. I've read someone testing a Remington pump the barrel didn't even buldge until 50k and exploded at 55.

[@TBendez]

Brandon exploded a weapon doing this, I expected the same thing here!

[@aitwar7670]

@@TBendez Brandon, however, had correct barrel for the round, so the shell didn't fireform and there was pressure build up.

[@JessicaHonaker-y7m]

I love you grandma thumb

[@skilletfan932]

"Time is the most precious resource of your life". Well said Micah!

[@Ed-wu1xy]

8:55 I've heard of several people mixing a few .380 into their 9mm rounds so they can practice clearing jams/malfunctions.

[@elementalist1984]

Yeah that was probably one of the least dangerous ones they did, tied with 38 spl out of a 357

[@craigsteinkamp12]

That dad advice sections was on point, nice Micah and congrats.

[@Hawthorne-x9u]

The cutscene at the start 😢what a masterpiece

[@ASMRConservative]

In the right situation, the wrong caliber in a gun can actually be the right solution to a problem.

[@dylanlewis0509]

Imagine sleepy Joe tries it because we know he loves his shotguns

[@huckwild6464]

@@dylanlewis0509 its the 9mm blowing the lung out the body that you gotta watch out for

[@MR-backup]

Seems to be true for the Henry 410 and 12Ga PAS.

[@magscorch7706]

the right caliber in the wrong gun can make all the difference in the world, so wake up, Mr Mossberg, wake up and smell the 290 grain

[@cfreezy45]

Best dad advice yet. My first baby is 9 months old now and I've cherished every single minute possible with her. Crazy how having a child changes your outlook on life and what is and isn't important.

[@rabbitcreekadventures]

This episode brought to you by the intrusive thoughts we’ve all had at the range.

[@jonathantaylor2584]

But now I'm home and want to pattern 50bmg out of a 12ga at my local indoor range

[@Mister_Clean]

@@jonathantaylor2584 you won't do it

[@Maxsteel_4014]

​@@Mister_Clean *_Bet_*

[@reanukeevesau]

​@@Maxsteel_4014you won't do it, you're Scared!

[@Sneeezzyy]

why does garand thumb look so different??

[@elijahjackson1140]

I think I know what’s happening here. The AR blew up because the bullet diameter was larger than the diameter of the barrel. This caused excess pressure, in addition to already being hotter, and that’s why it blew up. But with the shotguns, the diameter of each bullet was smaller than the barrel. So after the initial pressure curve, there would no longer be any friction to hold back the bullet, and all pressure would drop significantly. At least that’s my best guess. Anybody else have some ideas? Edit: grammer

[@3ountyhunter]

You are correct about the 300BLK. There was no way to let the gasses escape since the 30 cal projectile sealed the barrel. That meant it blew out the case and into the action. Good thing about an AR is when they blow, they normally channel the force out of the magwell and ejection port so the shooter is generally lightly impacted. For the larger rounds, It's not friction. Much like detonating a shell outside of a barrel, if there is nothing to contain the explosion, then the powder won't burn. In this case, since the 50BMG was barely supported by the body of the case and the neck was free floating, then the powder never had enough time to burn. The case gave way and fireformed to the chamber almost immediately. Very little of the powder in either round ever ignited which meant a dramatically lower chamber pressure.

[@montebrodie4086]

You spelled Grammar wrong, but it's ironically funny. Thumbs up.

[@dudeinanofficechair7662]

Not only is there no friction holding back the bullet, because the cartridge is bottlenecked there isn't even a seal around the bullet so high pressure gasses can just bypass the bullet. You can see with the 50 in the 12 a puff of gas comes out before the bullet does

[@theThinkerator]

did you notice the bullet did indeed come out the muzzle?

[@zchris87v80]

Was waiting for a .45LC in the .410 (if it would even chamber)

[@MINONIVEK1]

Had a customer that fired an entire box of 38 super through a charter arms 38spl. Brought it in because this "weird metal" stuff was coming out of the revolver. Spoiler the weird stuff was the rifling from the barrel. Still amazed that a charter managed to survive that.

[@jacktheaviator4938]

I call bs, the 38 super bullet diameter is slightly smaller than 38 pecial, It would have zero effect. Sell your fiction somewhere else.

[@MINONIVEK1]

@@jacktheaviator4938 sure bud I made it up for the clout...

[@MINONIVEK1]

@jacktheaviator4938 also I'm thinking the double the pressure had way more to do with it than the one one thousandth difference in bullet diameter lol

[@jacquesb8927]

Can a Rossi 38spl safely fire 357 mag?

[@MINONIVEK1]

Don't know. Might not even chamber it. I also don't want to be first in line to try it haha@@jacquesb8927

[@TeSolycMandalor]

So the .410 and the 12 gauge did not blow up because the projectiles were smaller than the barrels. This allowed for gasses to escape around them, dramatically reducing the pressure in those firearms. Watch the .50 come out after the blast 8:18.

[@Knightlyfrog]

Seeing that .300 fly out of the end of that .22 barrel was unreal. I've heard of squeeze bore guns before but those were made to function as such.

[@themoss7115]

It was more likely cut from the .300 projectile rather than squeezed. Would be nice to see remains of the chamber after the shot.

[@user-mn8lz7gf6d]

the squeeze bore is also gradual

[@mdbizzl]

Too bad they didn't have some kind of backstop to catch the bullets for analysis. Like maybe a big old plastic water tank?

[@chaseman113]

If it fits, …it shoots. Wicked vid, thanks for staying safe and getting a video out.

[@wtmf80]

That 410 really surprised me. Can't believe it handled it as well as it did.

[@TheRealRusDaddy]

I have an old single round 410 its always fun going and buying ammo and occasionally getting confused looks

[@White000Crow]

The pressure goes right around the bullet if it doesn’t seal well.

[@christophermitchell7925]

I had no idea 410 would fire 8mm Mauser

[@dylanpalmer5200]

You can literally see it tumble as it exits the barrel

[@stormy9196]

he also still had a choke on it too, you can see it at the end of the barrel

[@LeeThule]

5:50 You need to try to trap some of these projectiles. Because the barrel is oversized to the projectile in most of these matchups it is shocking how weak a material will catch the bullet. Spoiler: A 5.56 round when shot out an SKS (7.62x39) will bounce off a plastic water bottle placed 1ft in front of it. EDIT: My lawyer advises me to advise you that only persons recognized as doctors in the state of New Jersey should try this at their home, ranch, or dwelling house.

[@WeatherStone]

#oddlyspecific

[@christiansvideos]

I would like to see the rounds with ballistic gel also.

[@ColdHawk]

As a person who would probably be recognized as a doctor by the State of New Jersey, I would advise against any of these activities unless your attorney is the one pulling the trigger, in which case, go to it.

[@kiritotheabridgedgod4178]

The other point of note, is that manual action (Be it lever, breach loading or pump) are going to also be a lot more anticlimactic if they do get destroyed by a round, if you want an interesting destruction go with gas operation.

[@johns1625]

30-30 WIN will fire successfully through a 7.62x54r, but not the other way around.

[@sarge1178]

Fun fact: the 9mm Makarov was designed to chamber and fire .380 ACP in case the Cold War became the Not-So-Cold War

[@therookie5714]

I want one

[@quint3ssent1a]

I don't think Makarov designed it like that on purpose, he designed new ammo in tandem with his new pistol, and since pistol was simple blowback, to reduce weight of the slide a bit he made his 9mm ammo a bit shorter and less powerful, thus similar in dimensions and ballistics to .380 rounds. Doubt that he had any data on .380 rounds, though.

[@VndNvwYvvSvv]

​@@quint3ssent1ayeah, seems unlikely. It could have just been designed around a more common round which could be manufactured anywhere.

[@Strafprozessordnung]

​@@VndNvwYvvSvvso its just Fun, no fact

[@armedtexan8373]

Makarov diameter is 9.27mm .380’s diameter is 9.00mm. They are not compatible.

[@sotarro9969]

8:10 love the slo-mo hip thrust

[@GnBdud]

I was searching for this comment dude

[@CGR89]

I know that some police departments have used .380 for training purposes in their 9mm pistols to induce malfunctions. It’s fallen out of practice but it has been done in the past.

[@Saanonymous80]

That's actually a good idea. I'm going to incorporate that.

[@ghost.of.aleksz.salad.]

@@Saanonymous80 why dont you just get a good gun

[@handroids1981]

@@ghost.of.aleksz.salad. wHy DoN'T yOu JuSt GeT a GoOd GuN ???????? ????? ????????

[@Nightshade31401]

​@@ghost.of.aleksz.salad.....Even the best guns malfunction. Not every round is going to be perfect.

[@ahappylictor3214]

"why dont you just get a good gun" - noguns

[@triton302]

Micah, thank you for the dad advice you are absolutely correct. I did the same thing with my first kid who is my almost 6 year old son, and I regret not slowing things down to spend more time with him when he was an infant until 2 or 3 when he could really start doing fun stuff. Spend as much time as you can with your kids from the moment of birth until your time on this earth is up, because those moments you spend with them carry on to when they have kids of their own.

[@ricksmith7232]

Great dad advice!

[@39KHall]

Truth well told.

[@sarahwilliams6058]

@@39KHall Kenneth

[@christopheranderson9215]

I actually expect the shotguns to work since most of the gasses are going around the bullet since the barrel is much larger, allowing alot of the pressure to escape. Hints why it exited the barrel so slow. In the barrel of the right caliber it can't escape from around it causing the pressure to build. The longer the barrel the longer that pressure is behind the projectile causing it to have more fps(go faster).

[@paulstewart3665]

Big thumbs up for Micah's advice at the end. Thank you!

[@savatrocityc5238]

So glad to see Micah back. Cant wait to see all three(Garandthumb, Charlie and Micah) of you guys in another video again.

[@stephenjohnson6841]

Congratulations Micah! Solid dad advice! Very interesting video. Thanks!

[@kylemeredithjr]

Micah was dead on with the dad advice. Time IS the most important thing.

[@Xphinity]

The sounds are so feaking good and super unique, must love to the editing team!

[@GarandThumb]

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[@MikeA817]

I'm surprised Demo Ranch isn't the sponsor of this video

[@rhu1429]

Nah

[@austinalba4453]

Do a supplemental video on the one you missed I was curious about the other day: 5.45x39 in 5.56x45.

[@deanrutledge6660]

Or what

[@brachslap]

You forgot to pin this

[@ryanpoulson6544]

Fun fact: you can get revolvers with moon cuts that will allow them to chamber auto round. For example .357/.38 when cut for specific moon clips will fire 9mm.

[@DH-xw6jp]

I've seen a few Webley mk 4 (in the .455 chambering) cut for moon clips that allowed you to fire .45acp

[@JohnPublic-dk7zd]

.32acp another that will work...

[@horacegentleman3296]

​@@DH-xw6jpreally shouldn't fire .45 auto through a webley

[@DH-xw6jp]

@@horacegentleman3296 i never said it was a smart idea, just that i have seen it done.

[@horacegentleman3296]

@@DH-xw6jp lots of boomers abusing webleys they got cheap that way; just trying to spread the word. .45acp standard pressure is higher than the PROOFING pressure used on .455 webley

[@literallyfutile428]

Thanks for the tips guys, my grandma hasn’t been this suprised shooting a rifle in over 60 years!

[@handroids1981]

She stopped yelling yet?

[@kimmyworld2118]

2:45 when it starts

[@SRR-5657]

Hero

[@AJCsr]

As far as being a dad, I did the same thing, always looking to the next step my boy was going to take. On the second one I learned to be in the present, and enjoy every moment of both of my baby's experiences... lots of pics and vids too. ❤ Now my little guys are 20 and 22 !

[@MR-backup]

"..The first kid is always a little F ed up " :)

[@madhtrr]

You guys should do one with the wrong powder / overcharges in reloaded rifle cartridges. I'd be curious to see the results.

[@jasonbrown8944]

I'd love to see what a heavy charge of Retumbo would do to a 5.56....

[@outcast_performance]

Just ask Scott.

[@allenmills7940]

Iraqi veteran 888 did this years ago

[@RexApplegate]

Indeed. Eric and Berry did this much, much more extensively quite a few years ago.

[@65coupestang]

The results of Overcharged powder in a rifle are one of two things either a bruised shoulder or a blown up rifle😫😤🙄😡🤬🤦‍♂️👎👎AURRGH/ERRGH SMFH..!!

[@draskuul]

Thankfully the only accidental mixup my usual group has had was when my brother mixed up my .44 mag lever action with my friend's .45/70 and put a .44 through it. We only realized what happened when we found the brass from it afterward. Both modern models though so no pressure worry.

[@sstritmatter2158]

You guys are a blast - did things we all wanted to see but did not dare to do.

[@Supremebean303]

I love how this channel was informational with tongue in cheek humor with a serious tone of reviewing and informing the masses about firearm culture which it still is but more based meme edge lord now. I’m all for it🙏🏼😤❤️

[@AllAboutSurvival]

It's not only a great reminder of the importance of matching ammunition to firearms but also showcases the engineering behind each gun's design. Your high-speed camera shots captured the dynamics so well.

[@MrGsteele]

The .50 BMG never generated high pressure in the shotgun's chamber, because as soon as the pressure in the cartridge was high enough to distend the case neck around the bullet, there was only minor further containment of the pressure remaining to provide any further increase - enough to fire form the case - and there was a .510" bullet waltzing down a .729" diameter barrel surrounded by a lot of unburned and burning powder. It would have been interesting to fire it over a chronograph to see what the muzzle velocity was. Firing an 8mm in a .410 is likewise a .312 bullet dribbling down a .410 bore. An interesting side note is that it's actually a "thing" to fire form a .303 Enfield brass case in a .410 chamber and then use the brass case for reloading .410 ammunition, after annealing the mouth of the case, by crimping the case mouth lightly over a paper wad to keep the shot in. The very low .410 (67.62 gauge) chamber pressure (13,500 psi) barely taxes the .303 brass, which was designed for a chamber pressure of 49,000 psi. The rimmed case fits nicely in the .410 shotgun chamber once fire formed, and lasts - especially if periodically annealed - practically forever.

[@edgetopointramblings1093]

I am curious if the brass on the .50 would do the same thing in th 12g. Could you use the brass to make full brass 12g loads??

[@MrGsteele]

​@pointramblings1093 A .50 BMG case head is .804" in diameter, whereas a 12 gauge shotgun chamber is .810" in diameter at the mouth. The .50 BMG case could be cut at the 3" case shoulder to fit lengthwise in the 12 gauge chamber, but the additional .006 clearance of the case head - .003 on each side - which, being 6 times the clearance of a 12 gauge cartridge from the chamber wall, would likely prevent a sufficiently tight gas seal. Moreover, the .50 BMG case is rimless - whereas 12 gauge shells are rimmed, and headspace on the rim. 12 gauge chambers have a gradually tapering forcing cone - not a fixed internal step like a straight wall, centerfire, rimless rifle cartridge chamber would, so there's no ridge to headspace against for the cut down .50 BMG cartridge mouth. There are, however, brass 12 Gauge cases - from Buffalo Arms, for example - so that is a far better route to take if you are interested in experimenting with brass cases. They are expensive, of course, but they last essentially forever. Brass cases, though, are kind of a pain to deal with, because you need to crimp and/or tightly seal the case mouth - there's no bullet in the case mouth like there is with a conventional cartridge, nor a provision for a roll or star crimp like a conventional paper or plastic shotgun shell. One note on a different subject - firing sub-power rounds in a semi-auto, as done here with a .380 (9mm Kurz) in a 9mm. Although the .380 was insufficiently powerful to cycle the 9mm's action, Officer Greg (OG's Danger Show) has demonstrated firing .40 S&W in a pistol chambered for 10mm, with perfect functioning, including ejection and feeding. Sort of a more powerful version of .38 Special in a .357 Magnum revolver.

[@alexsvt5904]

13:51 great advice i needed to hear that from someone else

[@Riven1974]

My grandfather used 44-40 in his 410 all the time. Worked remarkably according to him.

[@derekmonroe3691]

.444 Marlin also fits, wouldn't suggest shooting it.

[@Riven1974]

@@derekmonroe3691 444 would definitely push the limits. I'm hoping to try fire forming some 303. Much easier to find empty brass to use compared to 444.

[@derekmonroe3691]

@@Riven1974 They can'y have my .303 emptys. lol

[@keaganairey1413]

Thought I'd learn some new gun stuff but ended up getting some solid dad advice. This channel never disappoints. 😂

[@christopherduthu2452]

Brandon Herrera’s video on specifically 12 gauge shooting .50 does a pretty good explanation of what’s happening. When the round fires the brass fire forms and gives a lot of the gasses that form an avenue to escape without blowing up the gun. If you stick a dedicated barrel for those calibers onto the gun that’s how you turn it into a hand grenade (also a Brandon Herrera video)

[@jasonshults368]

It isn't just the brass fireforming to the larger chamber that reduces pressure to safe levels. It is the absence of a bore that matches the diameter of the projectile. There is nothing to allow the pressure to build. Smokeless powder isn't explosive, and needs some method of containing pressure in order for it to build.

[@greenirez2798]

My old roommate had a S&W 686, we used to love shooting that thing at the range. But being cheap 20 somethings at the time, we would always buy boxes of .38 spc instead of .357. Very fun practice round to shoot.

[@Sound_Stable]

With the price of .410 shells these days, we need pioneers like you brave gents to find alternative loads to repurpose our .410's.

[@pkbltz5272]

If you're looking for cheap ammo, I think you may be disappointed with the rates 8mm Mauser runs at :(

[@alexwalker2582]

@@pkbltz5272 Oh, is THAT what he shot? I couldn't quite tell. Yeah those are....oof.

[@leviwoodring6101]

.45 long colt fits.

[@jrussell76]

I bought 9mm ammo and one of the boxes had missed marked 380acp in it instead. I was using an ets mag loader so didn't realize the difference when loading. I shot a few mags through a Shadow Systems MR920 flawlessly before I had a double feed. I cleared the double feed like you are trained to do, and finished the mag. Afterwards, I wanted to find out why it double fed. So I looked and found all these 380acp cases that I had shot. I checked the barrel, especially the throat of it where the bullet would leap before hitting the grooves, and it was flawless. Man I love that Shadow Systems!

[@miketyson8933]

Yea its all Shadow Systems lol the .380 is literally lined up and even if it did anything a slight edge deforamtion but that's why steel is harder then a jacketed lead round Ooooo Science....Not Shadow Systems

[@LAHFaust]

I'm pretty impressed with that AR. I've seen ARs where the upper receiver split open after a .300blk through a 5.56

[@Estavejacob]

And a palmetto at that. Impressive 👍🏻

[@SuperXrayDoc]

This is an intended feature of the AR. When there's a blockage in the barrel it redirects the gas downwards into the mag so it doesn't blow up in your face

[@user-hk1fx4in6c]

I've never seen so many ads on a single video in 15+ years, including Superbowl ad compilations

[@farinafranqui]

cope and seethe

[@user-hk1fx4in6c]

@@farinafranqui nah

[@DFloyd84]

I've seen a photo of a .300 Blackout squib that was extracted from a .223 barrel. The bullet was squeezed down and looked like a crayon and the case was fire-formed to the chamber.

[@blankblank9117]

His face at :34 cracks me the hell up. The intros for the science episodes get better each time. Love watching this channel grow. Cheers brothers!

[@ThomasBarth-gr1sz]

this makes one realize how much detail is behind the making of each gun. They need to fit extremely precise calibers and specifications to work properly.

[@jamiejohn1382]

Not going to lie. That intro should be nominated for a freaking Emmy

[@jamesparr1579]

Brandon did a video of this on the 50. The 12 gauge doesn’t give the round enough room for the powder to pressurize the chamber so it won’t detonate. He had to spin a 50 barrel to fit on a saiga knock off and because it had a 50 chamber it detonated the shotty. Love your content man

[@TheIntellectualSlacker]

its the opposite, no support on the case (because its a 12ga chamber and not a 50bmg chamber) so it just expands killing most of the pressure.

[@themoss7115]

12ga barrel is also wider than .50 projectile. Gases have easy way to escape (around the projectile and out of the barrel). 300blk is the opposite, it is an obstruction in the barrel (that almost always ends up with explosion). Gasses go through the first thing that cracks to the pressure - usually a mag well (pistols and semi-auto rifles), bolt action rifles will probably shoot a bolt to your face and if similar type of accident happens to some weird one shot .50 BMG rifle, you'll end up with a thumb in your neck (if you're lucky).

[@R2debo_]

"If you've ever dumped all of your money on an expensive rifle but cut corners on everything else, go ahead and hit that subscribe button."

[@hamzarajraji5284]

The best intro I’ve ever seen on this channel ❤

[@oldspicey6001]

6:00 bro is losing his hair perfect for a HIMS hair care ad

[@XR171]

Its good to know what your weapon can do in an emergency with no other options.

[@1AAbraham]

13:16 Micah, these are probably the most valuable words you've said. I know your usual content adds humor, but this certainly added value.

[@jondawg116]

Totally agree!

[@nathanskupowski4726]

Ya know, always wanted to see this kind of test done, never really found anyone crazy enough to do it… until now😂

[@direraven6277]

Demo ranch didbot awhile ago as well.

[@robertsmith4681]

i remember one video made by I ,think iraqveteran8888, who basically threw anything that could fit in a chamber trying to see what one could get away with and what plain didn't work. As i recall as long as the projectile wasn't oversized the gun would not blow up..

[@Centermass762]

​@@direraven6277 Demo Ranch has done this quite a few times. I think he did a video on it again like a week ago.

[@ryanhamstra49]

I mean, I would do it if someone sent me enough money to cover the guns…. No way I’m doing it with my own!!

[@partybowl69]

Kentucky, Demo and Plinking all have done it. Mike just explains the true detail behind its speeds pressure and effect

[@mr.techaky7655]

Lol, fire forming .50 bmg brass in a 12 gauge is how the first "12 gauge from hell" rounds were made. Then, if you knew anything about chamber pressure dynamics, you would've known that the .50 bmg in a 12 gauge builds very little chamber pressure... Due to the fact that all the gasses immediately escape out from around the bullet.

[@Christian-fg3we]

We The People must have paid a ton for the sponsorship because I bought one and the claw broke on the first day, then at the end of the day I realized the form was so bad it was incredibly easy to fit my finger inside and pull the trigger while the gun was fully seated in the holster. Went to ANR Designs after that and its been fantastic.

[@willieetcheto5211]

That hip thrust sequence was gold @8:10

[@PlayerPaul]

True

[@justsomeguy922r3]

I hope you do more educational content soon. The becoming deadly with your gear series needs more videos. As does becoming deadly in the mountains .

[@GarandThumb]

That's the plan!

[@damianwilliams7401]

@@GarandThumb- That’s awesome to hear! I really enjoy that genre too. My brother in Christ, God bless you and yours!

[@sirrellex]

​@@GarandThumbI wanna know how to become deadly in Florida 😅

[@RedVRCC]

The .50 cal in the 12 gauge works without blowing it up usually because the smaller bullet allows propellant gases to squeeze around it and let off a big portion of the pressure.

[@j4s0n39]

Before I added a .380 case test to my reloading process, I loaded a few "9mm" rounds in .380 cases. They would actually fire just fine in some guns. Mine had full 9mm powder loads, so they'd even cycle. I did have one pistol that would get light strikes. If the extractor holds the round against the breach face with enough force, it should fire just fine. If not, the firing pin can bump it forward, since it's not headspacing on the case mouth correctly.

[@KevinSmith-gh5ze]

I put a 308 in my 30-06 once by mistake. I had grabbed a stack of boxes off the shelf, and I didn't realize that one of the boxes must have been put up in the wrong spot. I was a new shooter, and it was the first round of the day, so I didn't notice they were a bit short.

[@gavinrobinson8925]

so what happened

[@Neutercane]

I saw this happen once quite a few years ago. We had arrived at our shooting spot and I noticed that one guy had a box of .30-'06 ammo as well as .308. I brought multiple firearms and figured he had too. He touched off a few rounds from his .30-'06 and then began looking strangely at his empty brass. When he showed it to us, I knew exactly what he'd done. That .308 brass was beautifully fireformed to its new straight wall configuration and looked absolutely undamaged.

[@KevinSmith-gh5ze]

@@gavinrobinson8925 recoil felt a bit light, and the round hit way low, but it passed through the barrel fine. It fireformed the case. I checked the barrel for obstructions and moved on with my day.

[@KevinSmith-gh5ze]

@@Neutercane yeah, the case looked pretty interesting. Everything cleared the barrel fine, so just checked the barrel and moved on, this time with the right box🤣

[@mdgcwood]

The pressure is significantly lower because the casing can completely open up. This means the explosion can dissipate into a much larger space compared to the smaller rifle chamber and narrower barrel the rounds are normally fired in. This is why it fire formed to the shotgun.

[@frenchonion4595]

Wonder if you could wild cat the expanded 50 shell and fire a homemade safari slug out of it LOL

[@patrick1675b]

Love your guys videos, just kills me when you don't explain why the rounds are doing what they're doing in the wrong chambers. The reason the firearms aren't exploding is because the projectile isn't sealing up the chamber/barrel and trapping all that over pressure. It's just released through the barrel. The 5.56 was destroyed because the 300blk is larger than the 5.56 barrel and it trapped the pressure and it had to go somewhere.

[@RockModeNick]

This is the correct explanation. The bottleneck cartridges don't seal the pressure in on those two designs, so most of it is discharged harmlessly around the rounds rather than creating pressure between the bullet and receiver through the length of the barrel.

[@labrat810]

The 8x57 fitting in the .410 was new to me. Legit, looks like a way to fireform .410 fullbrass hulls. Other ill-advised suggestions are .45 Super in a .45 ACP, .444 Marlin .454 Casull and .45Colt in the .410, and 3.5" 12ga in the 2-3/4"-3" chamber 12ga.

[@IndependentVFX]

Your editing, production value and general watch-ability has gone through the roof! So cool

[@jknewb6276]

That's a bad ass belt buckle!! The only reason I would see them not getting rid of em is because they wanted $150 for one but if you get one for buying a Henry lever action then it's going on a mantle!! Btw your guy's editor is doing excellent work!! 😎🤘👊

[@The_Archer132]

7:04 yeah, definitely spotted your Glock, because WTP holsters make CCW print like morning wood in briefs when you’re trying to hide it from your extended family staying at your house for the holidays.