Another thing that the July 2016 patch did (that I’m surprised wasn’t touched on actually) was his damage drop off range reduction. It’s only a small 5m reduction and it doesn’t sound like much, but with how it is calculated, this effectively meant that in order for bbq corn to hit his maximum damage, you had to be near enough point blank range, or you were being affected by damage drop off. I think it’s this, along with the harsh nerfs of the november 2016 patch that hurt his performance the most, since he now only gets 10 meters to his his full 4.5 damage per shot, before it gets reduced to a measly 3.5. Also appreciate me comment being shown!
@tankpea2 Жыл бұрын
Blud got that gw1 commando pea balance (also lt when is the cobinator build video coming ?)
@LtDarkRing Жыл бұрын
@@tankpea2 I will admit, I’ve been struggling to find the synergies of that build, along with what purpose it fulfils. You mind elaborating on what the build exactly is designed to do?
@tankpea2 Жыл бұрын
@@LtDarkRing so its pretty much an frontline/flank build , designed to surprise ennemies from an angle and eliminate pushes with the rb + mob cob strat (or alternatively just another good ol aggro build good on small spaces , oh yeah also reaping leap actually isnt required but its arguably the best option for that slot
@filipeferreira5085 Жыл бұрын
I still think bbq corn is a decent pick. It doesn't deal as much damage as some of the other variants, but I've always liked fire variants (and always hated dying to fire damage) and it is so similar to regular corn that i just kind of feel like I'm playing corn with added fire damage
@GatoChick Жыл бұрын
I Completely agree
@justfriccoff3363 Жыл бұрын
I completely disagree
@GatoChick Жыл бұрын
@@justfriccoff3363 then can we agree to disagree, Completely?
@TwilightChomperEnthusiast Жыл бұрын
I bet you’re one of those pricks who camp with him in the back of every objective of you think he’s usable. Up close he’s completely carried by his abilities. Low C-tier character when playing him properly, and mid C-tier when “sniping” at the back of the map.
@Perci5tance Жыл бұрын
@@GatoChickI Agree Completely
@balazsmejzer4213 Жыл бұрын
Most fire characters have something to balance out their fire damage. Drake imp, welder, and cricket star have awkward ballistics which make long range fights very hard or outright impossible, paleo has low health and is not so good up close, fire chomper and drake mech have limited spray range, fire cactus and flameface have more severe damage dropoff and limited ammo which means they cannot sit far away, fire rose, fire pea and fire flower have slow projectiles that are easy to dodge at range as well. In comparison, bbq corn is almost hitscan, has a lot of ammo in a full auto weapon and good accuracy meaning he can sit quite far back, 150 health which makes him way tankier than he should be, and 3 instakills that he can spam when someone dares to approach him. The end result is a character that can repeatedly set the entire zombie team on fire while having 150 health which is hard to chip down from afar with most zombies, and the worst thing is almost every lobby has one idiot camping in the back with him.
@TwilightChomperEnthusiast Жыл бұрын
That idiot is usually some master that’s either >1000 rank or max rank, with no in between. BBQ is more annoying than EP in my opinion.
@ihavebraindamage4445 Жыл бұрын
Fire cactus is literally the most broken thing in the entire game fym
@alejandroelluxray52983 ай бұрын
@@ihavebraindamage4445I have killed enough Fire Cacti players to deny such claim
@ihavebraindamage44453 ай бұрын
@@alejandroelluxray5298 yeah and a bunch of 10 year olds play the game. anyone with a brain knows how to use fire cactus insanely effectively.
@wilbo1868 Жыл бұрын
I was the party corn on zombopolis that danced with you lmao it was great seeing you ❤
@sound249 Жыл бұрын
I can't believe we made it to main channel
@CoralReaper707 Жыл бұрын
I feel like the Rose class as a whole is a very close contender for "most unfortunate character". They literally gutted her to the point of being absolutely horrid, with the patches she later received being essentially a band-aid for her short comings
@ahmahti1334 Жыл бұрын
I was binging your videos, and then this showed up! Couldn't have been a better timing. Love you're videos.
@OoBlekandOoBleklan Жыл бұрын
I will admit, I am a sort of new player as I bought the game back in 2019 stopped playing, and came back on in 2021, I didn't even know about the nerfs of bbq. But the minute I unlocked him he was my favorite to play. I had people in the lobbies I joined call me a "hacker" for being too good. He was my very first variant to master and even with controller drift and a history of bad aim in cod, I don't miss a bullet with him😎. Maybe unpopular opinion but fire variants are the best.🔥
@Larry Жыл бұрын
Dropping nearly 100 points is a ridiculous nerf.
@Sapient-Meatball4 ай бұрын
It’s crazy seeing Larry here
@TwilightChomperEnthusiast Жыл бұрын
Despite BBQ being a dogshit character now, it doesn’t stop 4/5 players (mainly max ranks) from camping at the back of the map with him and ability spamming/running when confronted. Combine that playstyle with high projectile speed, good accuracy, Corn’s stupid kit, and above all, fire damage, you get one of the most obnoxious characters in the game. He’s honestly more annoying than EP in my opinion.
@Flareguy Жыл бұрын
I’m max ranking corns atm and bbq was very annoying to level up just cause of how little damage he does
@TwilightChomperEnthusiast Жыл бұрын
@@Flareguy Seriously though. He’s one of the most unfun characters to play as while simultaneously being one of the most unfun characters to play against. I honestly have no clue how PopCap was able to achieve that. When it comes to grinding BBQ (and corns as a whole), use Bigger Better Butter, play solo against Cozmic Overload on the Zomburbia map (easy mode), and use the following strategy: Run cobs blazing into the objective, trying to get the attention of all of the bots. Let them crowd around you and damage you until you have ~15 health left. Then launch your airstrike and let the bots kill you. The butter will kill all of the bots on the objective, and you’ll get +50 exp for the bot vanquish, +100 exp for the capture vanquish, +100 exp for the revenge from the grave *per vanquish.* You’ll average ~5 levels per round with this method, way better than having to slog though playing actual PVP with BBQ Corn. This strategy also works with the Peashooter’s bean bombs (preferably sombrero). Hope this helps with your max rank journey!
@w4976. Жыл бұрын
@@TwilightChomperEnthusiasthe’s one of the most unfun characters to play as whilst simultaneously being one of the most unfun characters to play as?? Isn’t that just the same thing?
@TwilightChomperEnthusiast Жыл бұрын
@@w4976. I will admit, it can be fun to dominate lobbies with EP, Toxic Brainz, Captain Cannon, etc. BBQ doesn’t do that, because it gets frustrating only hitting 3’s and 4’s at point blank. On the flip side, you can get sniped from the other side of the map by some idiot camping with him and have to suffer fire damage for the next few seconds, all because you got within their line of sight for 0.008 seconds. It’s even worse when you confront them, because all they’ll slam their Cheeto-stained fingers on the husk hop button and cheese the fight entirely. EDIT: I just realised my mistake lol, I’m gonna fix that real quick :D
@ALazyPenguin Жыл бұрын
@@w4976. unfun to play as and unfun to play AGAINST, he said
@jaden_makes_music Жыл бұрын
This is a great idea for a series, excited for more
@Terminator-Plays101 Жыл бұрын
A forgotten gem of a game
@SUPERLEAF026 Жыл бұрын
That reddit post at the beginning of the video made me snap. I've realized that my favorite character has become what you can only find in herbal assault (when building a teleport)
@RuneTheWagon Жыл бұрын
When my and my teammate were playing in a previous tournament (which we got third place) he was playing bbq corn and I was playing metal petal and fire damage did more then enough to make bbq corn a threat to enemies, I can only imagine how op he would be if he never got nerfed. I will say however reg corn is just better overall even if bbq corn is better at chip damage since, yknow, fire.
@Filenga Жыл бұрын
Great video man! Good to see some GW2 content nowadays. I would only suggest to you to add more gameplay cuts, they bring a lot to the video. But the informations given were perfect :)
@diobrando7774 Жыл бұрын
honestly there should be some community driven balance mod that corrects the balancing and strives to better the underused and nerf the overpowered characters
@imselfaware419 Жыл бұрын
It would require a custom server to avoid issues, and fans haven't even figured out how to make custom servers, besides just using private play.
@RedstoneAceTheSecond Жыл бұрын
Nice, a new main channel vid!
@gobblegobble207110 ай бұрын
haha, jokes on you, i main him and i use husk hop wisely
@seaweed_eater Жыл бұрын
He's essentially the plants version of Tennis Star.
@thesecondcomingofjooiceman Жыл бұрын
Respect for putting drg music in the back
@Monsterpuffers Жыл бұрын
Wow a new vilehyperion video
@Drakez15 Жыл бұрын
Alot of people say that bbq corn is the worst corn but when i tried him he is pretty average tbh
@lCoutts13 Жыл бұрын
Babe wake up VileHyperion uploaded
@Dragon_14 Жыл бұрын
BBQ still is a good character and I'll always use him
@6P06 Жыл бұрын
i miss old bbq corn, one of the first characters i maxed out in that game along with toxic pea
@tvcat5096 Жыл бұрын
Wow, a main channel upload.
@juppimm3927 Жыл бұрын
I knew you were cooking up something good!!
@MixaCat Жыл бұрын
This is the first corn I mastered. And it was after nerf. I honestly thought that corn was the most awful class before one LTdarkring video
@progamerdgd943 Жыл бұрын
nothing can be worse than don sabugone no matter what you say
@wrath7646 Жыл бұрын
BBQ corn used to be my main. Needing him was quite unfortunate for me
@wrath7646 Жыл бұрын
*Nerfing
@DnD_Robb404 Жыл бұрын
Same with him and Electro Brainz
@leaivv Жыл бұрын
I still love BBQ Corn.
@sirstupid5857 Жыл бұрын
At least he wasn’t born garbage. I will never get my time back from chomp thing
@MainCookOfTheCapybaras Жыл бұрын
electro citron be like: (i know you said he was op but he honestly got done the most dirty) but seriously uhh great video
@yxngakx8261 Жыл бұрын
I was wondering why I felt so bad with my BBQ corn. Had 2k Vanquish on him come back to the game after about 6 years and can’t even get 1 vanquish
@ihavebraindamage4445 Жыл бұрын
I never understand why BBQ corn is as popular as it is today. He is mid at best and only ok when you have damage and fire upgrades
@Niffler-ro4hu Жыл бұрын
nice have you considered doin E citron
@gnom3r Жыл бұрын
Encoutered a bug today where none of my characters will load, except the default ones. Restarted game multiple times didnt fix. Charcters are bald and guns are missing
@ibby6034 Жыл бұрын
VileHyperion I played with you in a game in PvZ GW2 remember?
@TheSilliest_Ozzie8 ай бұрын
Where did you go?
@CilantroSandro Жыл бұрын
Can we get a video of the most unfortunate ability. Turbo Twister
@heon9519 Жыл бұрын
if it wasn't a mian channel vid I wouldn't click
@assimilationsynthesizer Жыл бұрын
Coming from a max rank, I have no idea why many of my fellow max ranks play BBQ Corn. I personally find him more annoying than good. His primary may be accurate and can hit decent with fire damage, his base damage is still not as good as stock or party, and the fire gets negated by healing. Not to mention Astronaut hard counters him...
@TwilightChomperEnthusiast Жыл бұрын
About 80% of max ranks the most annoying characters in the game on purpose to bully the lower ranks. It’s sad, but those sweats are ruining lobbies and make playing against them more of a chore than anything. Whenever I see one of them, I find it easier and less mentally draining to just quit that game and try another lobby.
@thomassummers249 Жыл бұрын
Because he was the character I loved the most as a kid. He’s not brilliant to use anymore but I’ll often play him for the same reason I find myself playing the entire game: nostalgia
@capercrusader712911 ай бұрын
Like Nbrio in Crash Team Rumble 😢
@thefoolwise262 Жыл бұрын
And despite all this he's still a strong tournament pick
@leaivv Жыл бұрын
What Tournements are we talking ?
@poochthedog1 Жыл бұрын
He sure does not feel the most unfortunate character when fighting him in multiplayer also still really fun
@eggbertegger1st307 Жыл бұрын
ROCK AND STONE!!!
@Sinizster Жыл бұрын
He’s not bad it’s just the direct damage that’s bad
@piggyboi8375 Жыл бұрын
What servers still have plagers cause all the oceania servers are dead?
@chickenforhood Жыл бұрын
Citrons next please
@pelino146 Жыл бұрын
To bad they did not nerfed bbq corn otherwise he would of been a power house
@chasicleso496311 ай бұрын
why didnt u do variant instead of the word character in the title. i pretty much got click baited
@hello_its_me583 Жыл бұрын
When I liked it had the jackpot number (777 likes)
@smiley6229 Жыл бұрын
Bbq corn is soooo good😊
@leonchameleon Жыл бұрын
you use a ton of DRG music in this video and credit none of it in the description, why?
@leonchameleon Жыл бұрын
thanks for adding it
@Afish8me2china Жыл бұрын
yeah I still like him
@Th3RazieI Жыл бұрын
I don't know what that purple and black screen is you use literally every 10 seconds, but holy fucking shit is it annoying and painful for the eyes