20mph: What do you Think?

[@phillipmoore8114]

I am with you all the way on that one 😊

[@suffolkandy]

Thank you very much, let's just hope things change RSMF

[@Womanwolfrider]

20mph everywhere in the future I guess, 15 minute cities next, people need to stand up and say no!

[@suffolkandy]

All I can say is they'll have to kill me before they get me into a 15 minute city. Lol RSMF

[@robsurname4054]

I love my new 20mph road - there is half the noise, it feels less hurried and it is of course much safer.

[@richardcurant454]

I take it you don't drive.😵‍💫

[@robsurname4054]

@@richardcurant454 Rubbish assumption ! I take it that you don't live on a road next to cars passing and/or you don't have children that are put in danger ?

[@richardcurant454]

@@robsurname4054 Yes I do, and have you ever tried to keep your car to 20ph and while you are watching the speedo you could hit that child,

[@robsurname4054]

@@richardcurant454 Let's figure out your disgusting deception by repeating lies as part of the 30mph brigade shall we ? Because you are travelling at 30mph instead of 20mph then you need to check your speedometer more often because every 10 seconds or so you will travel further at 30 rather than 20 - there will be more occasions where a child may step out onto the road for example. You are right, looking at your speedo more often does increase danger so 30mph becomes more dangerous. And because 30mph is far more likely to kill someone then you need to keep a check on your speed even more often. With 20mph you are less likely to kill anyone so you can relax on watching the speedo a bit and check out the road as you should do. Does that squash that ridiculous lie of yours ?

[@richardcurant454]

Totally agree with you.

[@suffolkandy]

Let's just hope they don't bring it into the UK RSMF

[@robsurname4054]

it's cheap to change signs, very expensive to treat multiple injuries after traffic accidents

[@cloudbasenirvana]

Stopping distance for an EV Car at 30mph is the same as the stopping distance for an ICE Car at 50mph. EVs are not safe on the roads at 30mph due to their excessive weight - all part of the agenda to get all to drive EV and then they crash the EV agenda world wide as it cannot be achieved. In the words of THE W£F puppet-masters of the worlds govts (Sunak, Drakeford, Khan, Starmer = all W£F C0CKPUPP£T$) - *_"YOU WIL OWN NOTHING, YOU WILL GO NOWHERE AND BE HAPPY"_* I live in Wales and now most are ignoring the 20mph Limit BS and driving at 30-35mph and most people that used to obey the 20mph school zones are now ignoring them completely. Cyclists are very worried as the drivers obeying the 20mph BS will not over take a cyclist because a car needs to be at 25-30mph to over take a cyclist and it is causing huge tailbacks behind cyclists and the cyclists are getting very scared. Pedestrians are also scared now as they cannot cross the roads as the cas are driving too close to each other where they obey the 20 mph BS - 20mph = more congestion, more pollution, more accidents (vehicles and pedestrians), more engine damage, more fuel usage. It has cost £32 million so far to change the signs and they have barely scratched the surface - road need speeds repainted also - we now have 20mph / 30mph signs on the same roads everywhere and nearly all road paintings stilll say 30mph ( next to 20mph roadsigns so very often)

[@suffolkandy]

I'm glad it's working out for you, I just hope the millions it will cost the Welsh economy won't affect you too badly RSMF

[@CalmBiker]

I think we'll see those 20mph limits everywhere over the next few years. Around here we've already seen quite a few and loads of national speed limit roads have reduced to 50mph and quite a few to 40mph. It's getting hard to get anywhere. There are places where it's reasonable but it seems overkill to do it everywhere. When I was a child they taught the green cross code. I can go a lot faster than 20mph on my bicycle. The risk of injury in an accident with a pedestrian is a lot lower (though not impossible) but because a bicycle doesn't have to have a speedo there's no specific speed limit problem.

[@cloudbasenirvana]

Stopping distance for an EV Car at 30mph is the same as the stopping distance for an ICE Car at 50mph. EVs are not safe on the roads at 30mph due to their excessive weight - all part of the agenda to get all to drive EV and then they crash the EV agenda world wide as it cannot be achieved. In the words of THE W£F puppet-masters of the worlds govts (Sunak, Drakeford, Khan, Starmer = all W£F C0CKPUPP£T$) - *_"YOU WIL OWN NOTHING, YOU WILL GO NOWHERE AND BE HAPPY"_*

[@suffolkandy]

Agree with all you've said, I do find the bicycle part a bit of a problem, but let's hope sanity will prevail RSMF

[@SteveInskip]

20mph is sensible around schools and is already in place in some cities in UK. I was In Glasgow recently and they already have it. As long as it’s localised and implemented sensibly I don’t have a problem with it. Problem for me is that you spend more time checking your speedo which is infinitely more difficult on a motorbike than in a car as your speedo isn’t generally in your line of vision. ULEZ is a bit more contentious and even Labour seem uncomfortable with the way it’s been implemented. Personally, nothing could persuade me to drive in London these days and I normally take public transport or taxis when I’m visiting London.

[@suffolkandy]

Totally agree with all you've said and as for the ULEZ, never going to London again. Not going to lose a lot of sleep on that one lol RSMF

[@robsurname4054]

Spain, France and now Wales ---- all 18mph or 20mph in Wales will be more widespread because they make sense

[@cloudbasenirvana]

Stopping distance for an EV Car at 30mph is the same as the stopping distance for an ICE Car at 50mph. EVs are not safe on the roads at 30mph due to their excessive weight - all part of the agenda to get all to drive EV and then they crash the EV agenda world wide as it cannot be achieved. In the words of THE W£F puppet-masters of the worlds govts (Sunak, Drakeford, Khan, Starmer = all W£F C0CKPUPP£T$) - *_"YOU WIL OWN NOTHING, YOU WILL GO NOWHERE AND BE HAPPY"_* I live in Wales and now most are ignoring the 20mph Limit BS and driving at 30-35mph and most people that used to obey the 20mph school zones are now ignoring them completely. Cyclists are very worried as the drivers obeying the 20mph BS will not over take a cyclist because a car needs to be at 25-30mph to over take a cyclist and it is causing huge tailbacks behind cyclists and the cyclists are getting very scared. Pedestrians are also scared now as they cannot cross the roads as the cas are driving too close to each other where they obey the 20 mph BS - 20mph = more congestion, more pollution, more accidents (vehicles and pedestrians), more engine damage, more fuel usage. It has cost £32 million so far to change the signs and they have barely scratched the surface - road need speeds repainted also - we now have 20mph / 30mph signs on the same roads everywhere and nearly all road paintings stilll say 30mph ( next to 20mph roadsigns so very often)

[@davidsanderson1891]

Hi Andy. Hope the 20mph doesn't come in funny but I went out early Sunday morning. Deliberately stuck at 20 .1st/2nd gear OK Apart from higher revs.3rd gear terrible car felt it was going to stall..I'm at that age now I would get rid of the car if it came in law Stuff the hassle. Then you've got insurance. ..just renewed mine. (Been driving from 18 /66 years old now ) NO driving faults AT All its gone up £100 .and yes that's looking on the different sites.ripp off ..that's my little rant 😅 old dave

[@suffolkandy]

My car didn't like it at all. As for the insurance increases, I have been told it's to do with EVs and the cost of repair, it's forcing up the costs of normal insurance. P.S. Just a load of greedy bastards RSMF

[@SuffolkZX]

Suffolk community leader Robert Lindsay has already been shouting the virtues of a 20mph limit for Suffolk like there is in Wales, given all the previous decisions re traffic in Ipswich I can see them being front of the que to bring this in.

[@suffolkandy]

This to me is very worrying, will be watching this one closely RSMF

[@Burgoyne1777]

In Montreal the current administration has increased cycling paths to the detriment of parking spaces, so they'll kill off businesses that survived Covid. Speed kills, yes, but 20 mph limit in Wales will tempt drivers to look at their phones instead of the road. Nice video, Andy!

[@suffolkandy]

Here in the UK, most of the town centres are now dead. Parking is very expensive and road changes making it impossible to get around. So it looks like it's the same all over RSMF

[@TomBartram-b1c]

They ran a tv campaign in the 80s urging cyclists to use lights and reflective clothing but don't bother any more cuz they can't get revenue where there's no number plate.

[@suffolkandy]

That's so true lol RSMF

[@stephencarter3625]

Top man you are right i ride a triumph thruxton 900 can not get out of 2ed gear and if i go into 3ed it will not do it so when i go 20 mph i have cars up my ass is that safe for me NO IT IS NOT love going to north wales love the roads and the people but sorry to all the people in wales will not be coming back shame not to do 20 mph no fun is that for me you have MR dickford to thank for that to all the the head working people in wales work your week and when the weekend come just stay in and save your cash and when there is no money coming in then they will star 😢 😢

[@suffolkandy]

Mr Dickford in my opinion is a complete twat, people didn't want it but he done it anyway. As far as I'm concerned, what's the point in voting or having a voice and they take no notice? RSMF

[@teggsy2165]

Spend money teaching kids and adults how to cross roads by first of all removing mobile phones from their heads and ear buds out of their ears while crossing roads !

[@SteveInskip]

Ah, the scourge of the modern pedestrian. I just love dodging people who aren’t looking where they are going!

[@suffolkandy]

Totally agree with all you've said, let's teach the kids at school to cross a bloody road lol RSMF

[@julieblackstock8650]

I'm against 20 mph unless its near a school or care home. I do think some of these narrow country roads which are meant to be 60 mph and single track bendy roads is madness. You probably know The Strand in Wherstead is 60 mph and accidents galore inc deaths. I think that should be 40 mph. Agree ULEZ is rubbish, Hate London anyway.

[@suffolkandy]

Know the road well along The Strand, wouldn't have any problem with a 40mph. It does make me wonder why some of the smaller roads are still 60 as if you did, you'd definitely kill yourself lol RSMF

[@joules531]

The improved braking of modern cars is a good thing, but you must remember that many drivers, who kill or seriously injure people, don’t even apply the brakes before the impact. If people are looking at their phone, or fiddling with the screen in their car, or suffering from dementia or poor eyesight, and reluctant to give up driving, or drunk, or on drugs, it’s much better for those people to be driving at 20, rather than 30. And it’s worth bearing in mind that, in Wales, in 2022, more than 2,000 people were either killed or seriously injured in a 30mph limit. If your X3 is shuddering in 3rd, at 20mph, you need to get it looked at, because this is not normal. Probably either needs a transmission fluid change, or you’ve pressed the 20mph limiter button and you’re trying to exceed 20mph.

[@suffolkandy]

Thank you for the advice about the car, I will look into that RSMF

[@robsurname4054]

Paedophiles and Speedsters who would hurt our little children should be locked up. You know very well that little children do wander into the roads sometimes so why on earth would you want to risk them serious harm for such an innocent mistake ?

[@joso7228]

Seek help.

[@robsurname4054]

@@joso7228 spit your dummy out and stop whining

[@suffolkandy]

I can see where you're coming from on this one

[@DjNikGnashers]

If 'little' children are wandering around on roads, where the fk are the parents and why are they not being supervised ? How about parental responsibility for their 'little' children's safety ?

[@robsurname4054]

@@DjNikGnashers blaming the victim .. presumably you are a "real" man who thinks he can push around a 30kg child that has made an innocent mistake Psychopath