I love how everyone hates on the price but has no issue buying a scope that cost more than their rifle.
@jadoncampbell27404 жыл бұрын
The rule of thumb for target scopes is to have a scope at or more then the rifle price
@ndnj134 жыл бұрын
That is the most ignorant comparison. I need my scope to take the free energy of a 338 lapua mag while perfectly tracking fractions of a radius. O by the way I need the glass to be purged and waterproof and transmit light undistorted. Comparing anything bow to a firearm is like comparing a rock to a precision machine.
@jadoncampbell27404 жыл бұрын
@Phil Ward no it was stated just as a guide by Target shooters so you don't have a 400$ scope on your 5000$ long range precision rifle
@jadoncampbell27404 жыл бұрын
@@ndnj13 I didn't know you thought firearms where just rocks.
@jimmyraybeagle58154 жыл бұрын
true theyre just used to pay less for bowsights. some sort of habit.
@Bertaaaa3 жыл бұрын
I impulse bought a bow about a year ago, I'm getting pretty good with it now so it's becoming a hobby for me. Ive shot well over 200 times in the last few days. Haven't lost an arrow yet 😅
@vfonte2186 жыл бұрын
Lucas as always great information and put in a way that everyone can understand and appreciate. I always look forward to your reviews.
@Buran016 жыл бұрын
Currently are expensive and a bit heavy and bulky, but as the years pass and the competition intensifies this kind of sights will be only become cheaper, lighter and more compact, so I can see a future in which they dominate the market (at least in the countries and states in which are legally allowed). Good review.
@ArcheryTalkVideo6 жыл бұрын
It's a pretty great first step. Burris has their own version, though they took a different approach.
@wailshudar4 жыл бұрын
At 14.7 ounces, It actually weights less than a number of other sights.
@FletchedObsession5 жыл бұрын
I totally appreciate the time & effort you put into making these reviews Lucas! I know this is a Garmin review but B-Stinger just sold another stabilizer thanks to Archery Talk!
@ArcheryTalkVideo5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching. Do you like the Counter Slide? I've been super happy with mine. I don't like dealing with a front and rear stab on my hunting rig - the Counter Slide simplifies things. But I wish I ordered the longer one.
@steve88286 жыл бұрын
Absolutely the best sight on the market today! Very much worth the money.
@dwanehudson69045 жыл бұрын
Lucas in your opinion could you set up pins out to 100 yds? Is the sight window long enough to achieve 100 yds. You said you were sighted in to 76 yrds , is there room to get to 100 yrds.
@AussieBrutus19814 жыл бұрын
From my perspective: The Garmin Xero A1i is definitely the future of archery optics moving towards more reliable shot placement. The inbuilt range finder with cant compensator, no clutter FoV and multi-profile arrow storage (different game) makes it appealing. The price is justified and reasonable provided the LRF is capable of reliable accuracy to 200m (to know how much distance to close). Are there testing reports released for the maximum range, accuracy (with Std. Dev.)? If Garmin desire to push the envelope further with their archery tech, I would like to see a windage correction capability for longer range shots. Reasoning and justification: I prefer a bow over a rifle for hunting medium game (feral goats and pigs) as it's illegal to own suppressors in Aus.
@lloydwellington52716 жыл бұрын
Was going to get one, but after playing with the HHA Eotech set up, I decided to just go with normal sight. The HHA sight limits the range to 55 yards.
@jacobmortensen38755 жыл бұрын
Great info, Got mine and setup was like 30 min ;).....I noticed that the “right arrow button” did not have quite the same plastic “sound” / feedback as the others buttons do you experience the same thing? Thx
@ArcheryTalkVideo5 жыл бұрын
I’ve not noticed it. I’ll check it out when I have a chance.
@guppy19114 жыл бұрын
Great video! Saw these at my pro shop. Next year it will be on my bow
@user-bo8yt4uc8b6 жыл бұрын
They still have traditional bubble. Perhaps in version 2 that will be developed to some sort of electric function with crosswind calculations.
@thepubliclandnomad33656 жыл бұрын
Thanks. Been waiting on a legit review of this sight.
@ArcheryTalkVideo6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching.
@DavidGutierrez-yk6hw6 жыл бұрын
The review had no cons, it’s not legit if it’s not truthful
@redneckgearheadgarage4955 жыл бұрын
@@DavidGutierrez-yk6hw what would you say the cons are?
@iT4d3 жыл бұрын
is there a newer model releasing anytime soon? i see the video is over 2 years old.
@jcpalacio6 жыл бұрын
Great review, I know there are some states in the US where it is illegal. Do you know what the status is in Canadian provides and territories?
@Bigtrain15 жыл бұрын
JCP hope they stay that way
@dwanehudson69045 жыл бұрын
The sight is nice but the view thru the plastic (glass) was not very clear to me!! I think if it was real glass it would be better. What’s your thoughts everyone?
@williambunton16015 жыл бұрын
Low light view was horrible to me so I sold it.
@milansekularac6196 Жыл бұрын
If you have ranged it before or know the distance apriori, can you set the sight to show the pin at this distance right away as you pick the bow up without prior ranging?
@ArcheryTalkVideo Жыл бұрын
The last thing you range will be your aiming point for as long as you like…just don’t range anything else. You can skis set your LED “pins” to whatever distances you like. You can toggle to those preset pins by tapping the main button.
@Canadaman4403Күн бұрын
Honestly I’m not sure I could ever go back to Pin sight after using this for the last five years, Twice i had failures one During a major snowstorm the wind was blowing sideways and it was cold the site literally froze and would not give me a range. I don’t care what anyone says taking the Guess game out of yardage right in that magic moment cannot be beat. The only other failure I had was forgetting to change the battery at the beginning of the season I got caught on a hunt with a dead battery not even used to looking at it because the damn thing will last for one or two years even if you forget and leave it on for a week that’s on me and you’re right it is pricey but when you think about it my PSE Mark 33 all tricked out is at around C$2600
@bobbydenezza77952 жыл бұрын
It's hard for me to explain this without having the sight, but i want to know how you would do a walk back tuning process and broadhead tuning process and its hard for me to envision how to do french tuning, walk back tuning and broadhead tuning with this sight because its not like a regular sight. Should you do your regular sight in process first before doing walk back tuning and broadhead tuning? Or if not, will the sight allow you to turn it on and start shooting using the pin without going through the steps for sighting it in? I'm asking this question because I'm wondering if this sight will allow you to shoot in a walk back tuning fashion to check to make sure your rest is lined up before doing the actual sighting in process?
@ArcheryTalkVideo2 жыл бұрын
It’s possible we have a different idea of a walk back tune. When I do it, I use the same pin and shoot an arrow with it every 5-10 yards. You can still do that with this sight.
@bobbydenezza77952 жыл бұрын
@@ArcheryTalkVideo So based on the sighting in process, after you get your primary pin dialed in at say 20 yards and after you get your retacle lined up, once it tells you to take a shot to make sure the sight is still accurate, then at that point you can use the 20 yard pin to do walk back tuning at maximum yardage. But as you shoot the arrows, I guess you don't answer the question that pops up on the screen until after you're done walk back tuning and you're ready to broadhead tune.
@ArcheryTalkVideo2 жыл бұрын
@@bobbydenezza7795 I'd probably get my initial mark set up first (20 yards, for example). I'd then use that pin to do all my basic tuning before sighting in at further distances. So I'd use that basic 20-yard mark before paper tuning or walk-back tuning (or anything else). Then I'd verify my 20 is still good and then go ahead and get my other yardages set. It's not all that different than using a regular multi-pin sight.
@bobbydenezza77952 жыл бұрын
@@ArcheryTalkVideo Yeah that makes sense. That's pretty much what I was saying. Once I get my 20yd mark set and retacle set and it tells me to take another shot to make sure it's still accurate, I take the shot at 20 but don't answer the question confirming its still accurate yet. Instead use that 20 yd mark and walk back tune to Max range to see if you're shooting in a straight vertical line so the rest is aligned straight. Once that's done, then I plan on going back to 20yds and take a shot at a bullseye. If I hit it then I answer the question to confirm then I'm ready to do my yardages. Thanks for the help.
@ArcheryTalkVideo2 жыл бұрын
@@bobbydenezza7795 You are welcome. The set up is a little tricky the first time. But if you ever do it again, it's way easier.
@JRStallings875 жыл бұрын
What kind of stabilizer do you have on that triax
@ArcheryTalkVideo5 жыл бұрын
Justin Stallings Bee Stinger Counterslide
@redneckgearheadgarage4955 жыл бұрын
I seen this at my local archery shop, if I'd had my bow with (son was getting some lessons) I would have it on my bow NOW!
@buckstop10313 жыл бұрын
Can someone help me with a question I have. If I set my first pin at 20 YARDS, will it give me a pin closer than 20 yards should I need one? I'm afraid of a deer walking under me at 5/10 yards and not having a pin.
@kmg31444 жыл бұрын
Have you experienced any fogging in the sight? Does it do well in low light conditions?
@ArcheryTalkVideo4 жыл бұрын
I’ve not experienced any fogging, but is generally quite cold when I’m using it. Low light it’s great. Really bright light bouncing off snow...less great. Gets hard to see those lights
@nmoran20463 жыл бұрын
First review I’ve seen it answers the question of how does this work if you’ve got such varying arrow weights I would think if you compared ranging a target and then setting up with your traditional set up this would be much faster less movement at first I thought this thing was a gimmick but there might be some validity to it
@mussersbowsboatsandscience66106 жыл бұрын
like mine, but I constantly have to check my brightness on my reticle and pins, can be not bright enough or too bright in a hunting situation. The monitoring brightness throughout a hunt is a necessity as light conditions change
@ArcheryTalkVideo6 жыл бұрын
I didn't have any issue with this until after I shot this video. A few days ago I was hunting in the snow and the light changes were extreme. When the sun would really shine, the reflection off the snow was crazy and it definitely affected the LED pins.
@mussersbowsboatsandscience66106 жыл бұрын
@@ArcheryTalkVideo Turkey hunting in a blind increases the issue, during the Spring for me when I first bought it, the 9am light was much brighter than 6am. I could not range the turkey at the moment of truth, once you learn periodically to check it and/or switch to fix pins. Outside of that quirk it works great.
@elksplosive22145 жыл бұрын
How’s it perform in rain
@ArcheryTalkVideo5 жыл бұрын
So far, so good. I’ve not been in a downpour with it, but I e shot it in the rain and snow with no major issues to speak of.
@The_Rut_Funnel5 жыл бұрын
When is this going to be legal in the western states?
@Outlabyrinth4 жыл бұрын
as always great review did you mention the inner diameter of the sight view ? im not sure if the comment make sens to you ? i mean the sight view diameter ? thanks a lot
@FingonNarmolanya6 жыл бұрын
So what i get from it it's like a red dot sight, but for your bow and with archery related features.
@ArcheryTalkVideo6 жыл бұрын
FingonNarmolanya I’ve not used a red dot sight, but a quick search shows at least a similar basic idea.
@jimfield33475 жыл бұрын
And no guessing distance
@SheepdogsHeart5 жыл бұрын
Does it compensate for up or down angles?
@ArcheryTalkVideo5 жыл бұрын
Yes, it does.
@patricksnyder34464 жыл бұрын
do you shoot with 1 or 2 eyes open?
@ArcheryTalkVideo4 жыл бұрын
One.
@WS_003 жыл бұрын
@@ArcheryTalkVideo Which one? Just kidding... 🤣
@cjyt64916 жыл бұрын
Fantastic as usual
@ArcheryTalkVideo6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching.
@cjyt64916 жыл бұрын
Always my pleasure...
@trevorstrutt16 жыл бұрын
I have it..it freezes even with upgrade ..its heavy ..gotta adjust pins all the time for brightness etc ..
@backmountainoutdoorproduct34916 жыл бұрын
Check out the back mountain outdoor products hands-free Rangefinder. No calibration needed in is not on the bow so it's legal in all 50 states
@davekamphuis12096 жыл бұрын
I love your videos Lucas, but you gotta turn up the juice to your mic. I've got kids man, I need more volume, lol. Keep 'em coming!
@ArcheryTalkVideo6 жыл бұрын
Duly noted. I will punish the video editor.
@DavidGutierrez-yk6hw6 жыл бұрын
A review with no cons? What are downsides besides price..
@ArcheryTalkVideo6 жыл бұрын
David Gutierrez Price is definitely the big one. Weight may be an issue for some, but I wasn’t bothered by it. That said, I’ve not had to lug it around for miles and miles in the mountains. And you need to keep an eye on pin brightness. As light conditions change, you need to adjust your pins.
@sicsempertyrannis32512 жыл бұрын
I wish it had a string or limb driven range activation.
@jamessonger36 жыл бұрын
Thats awesome.
@Canadaman4403Күн бұрын
I should’ve mentioned there is one other issue the bubble on the bottom of the site is so small I cannot see it at full draw now I’m 59 years old and my eyes aren’t great anymore but that bubble should be four times the size just saying
@maineoutdoorsman6776 жыл бұрын
How about the peglum sight sight in at 10 yards good out to what ever u feel comfortable shooting no batteries
@ArcheryTalkVideo6 жыл бұрын
I’ve not had a chance to use the TruGlo Pendulum sight. Looks interesting.
@pahuntnut6 жыл бұрын
on one hand i thought wow, were is the challange of bowhunting and is this fair? On the other hand, how many of us mis-judged yardage and wounded an animal? I can see this being the wave of the future once the competition comes into play and drives the price down.
@ArcheryTalkVideo6 жыл бұрын
pahuntnut I think not having to gap pins will lead to fewer wounded deer. Should have discussed that in the video
@matthewpolicano89066 жыл бұрын
It's really no different then ranging a deer and using a 1 pin sight the only difference is this sight moves the pin for you
@patricksnyder34464 жыл бұрын
Is their a maximum range distance
@ArcheryTalkVideo4 жыл бұрын
Sort of. There is a finite amount of vertical space in the scope. I shoot a 475-grain arrow and usually get about 80 yards or so. A lighter arrow should get more.
@craighiggins23734 жыл бұрын
What is the max range youve been able to shoot?
@ArcheryTalkVideo4 жыл бұрын
My archery club's range is restricted to 70 meters (76 yards), so that is about as far as I've gone. But there's definitely room for more on the site.
@MickyMouseLimited4 жыл бұрын
This is a really nice sight probably the best . In theory this could cost around 500 $ but it is going for a 1000$. Is it something people would buy it is really hard to say. I am guessing if someone can use this sight and prove he can be a better hunter with it then a regular sight range finder combo then people would really consider. By the way the range finder part in this sight is not going to measure up to 400 $ traditional range finder. This has to be proven in the filed where it will count not on static target practice .
@waynemaster27526 жыл бұрын
Does it work ik the cold like 10 or 0 degrees in Minnesota it gets cold
@ArcheryTalkVideo6 жыл бұрын
Wayne Master -7 Celsius is the coldest I’ve used it so far. No problems with the sight at those temperatures.
@jmclfrsh6 жыл бұрын
It does not fog as both sides of the glass are the same temperature, but the coldest I’ve shot mine is 20 degrees. It’s the coldest it’s been on Ohio so far this winter. It was worth the money to me, months later.
@ramos2086 жыл бұрын
It’s just a way to make us archers lazy. Time at the range will be shorter and more time on the smart phone, by the way the volume is fine.
@hunterjones79096 жыл бұрын
Mission mxr review soon?
@ArcheryTalkVideo6 жыл бұрын
It's on the list. Have a bunch of videos to clear out first.
@morkovija4 жыл бұрын
Has somebody tested the $200 chinese copy?
@rupertmedford39013 жыл бұрын
Is it not possible to make.this technology without having to push a button to range?
@RICK-fs6yi6 жыл бұрын
Ive been bowhunting long enough to have learned. Keep it simple. Last thing i want is another peice of tech shitting itself on a shot of a lifetime. My sight of choice a spotthogg hunter set and forget. Never lets me down. Plus this thing cost $1,400 here in australia my Mathews triax cost me $1,500. Ill leave this one to the tech heads.
@ArcheryTalkVideo6 жыл бұрын
I’ve had a Hunter myself for almost five years now. It’s an awesome sight that is pretty much bulletproof.
@RICK-fs6yi6 жыл бұрын
@@ArcheryTalkVideoYou said it brother bullet proof thats what i love about it. Ive had mine for years aswell. Has never let me down.
@hairutheninja6 жыл бұрын
Im more of a no sight guy when it comes to bows but this is hella cool
@ArcheryTalkVideo6 жыл бұрын
If nothing else, the technology is fun to play with.
@jeremymcclanahan23896 жыл бұрын
1000 bucks though....no thanks
@JM-sj4wj3 жыл бұрын
I don’t know if you can be totally objective after going hunting with Garmin before your review
@chrisao19875 жыл бұрын
Good Lord they have made bow hunting complicated.
@ninjagodzilla64024 жыл бұрын
U got that right buddy.i dont want all that crap.i just want to.hunt!
@grunt4lfe11b6 жыл бұрын
Where is it LEGAL. That's the real question.
@georgegiesbrecht82246 жыл бұрын
I want one
@fredericroche81486 жыл бұрын
George Giesbrecht i sell mine
@Hudson44265 жыл бұрын
I don’t even own a bow... why am I watching this?
@ArcheryTalkVideo5 жыл бұрын
I don’t know...but it’s probably time to get yourself a bow.
@Hudson44265 жыл бұрын
ArcheryTalk i like the idea but until I can get game consistently with a rifle there is no point in attempting to get closer 😂
@ArcheryTalkVideo5 жыл бұрын
Hudson It’s just fun to go and shoot. Join a club. Participate in league nights, shoot some 3D. Plus, archery people are almost universally nice.
@Hudson44265 жыл бұрын
Meh I’m not opposed to it and attempt to rifle hunt like a bow hunter... I’m sure I will progress that way sooner or later
@ArcheryTalkVideo5 жыл бұрын
Hudson Archery is also a great way to get rid of unwanted money. So many fun things to buy.
@ninjagodzilla64024 жыл бұрын
Up next from garmin!!! The all new guided arrow.just aim youre bow in the direction of the deer, relese & the arrow is guided like a missle & will follow youre animal thru thickets & limbs & make direct contact to the vitals! No worries on tracking.the arrow also has a gps tracking compomet that inserts in the knock so you can easily retreive youre game!
@iT4d3 жыл бұрын
im looking for something that can also butcher and cook the meat for me sorry
@TheBowdoc15 жыл бұрын
Pope and Young eligible? I would think no.
@ArcheryTalkVideo5 жыл бұрын
No idea. But that’s never been a concern of mine.
@FletchedObsession5 жыл бұрын
$200 to save arrow profiles, give me a break! Garmin should have just stuck with 1 overpriced sight.
@wafflecougar-online6 жыл бұрын
Is he really quite for anyone else? I'm at max volume on my phone
@HookSettinHooligans5 жыл бұрын
To large and bulky for where I hunt. Perhaps Garmin will make a more affordable, smaller one eventually. Until then the sales will be small.
@coyrichard25775 жыл бұрын
800 dollars um no sir
@GIboy19906 жыл бұрын
I've never understood why people bow hunt with more than 2 pins
@ArcheryTalkVideo6 жыл бұрын
So we can be more accurate at longer distances. Generally not as huge of a deal to those of us that hunt in the thick woods where shots tend to be shorter. But western open-country hunters tend to have to stretch out a bit more and two pins might not cut it.
@GIboy19906 жыл бұрын
@@ArcheryTalkVideo I understand it's to reach out further. What I mean is I dont understand why people bow hunt like that in the first place.
@japples68526 жыл бұрын
Same as the Indians had. I mean I’m all for advancing the sport and technology but at some point I think we go too far for hunting. Where do we stop? Does anyone think this is a bit much? Remember when you had to judge yardage? I’d be all for using this at a 3D shoot or something but I’ll stick to my pin for hunting. Great review of product. Thank you.
@donwilson3506 жыл бұрын
You know what I realize that it is a really well-made in a really nice site but that is way too much money for a site for compound bow come on thousand dollars $800 for a site Garmin got to be out of their mind only the guys that get paid the big dollar that are on the Outdoor Channel would be able to afford that your average archery Hunter is not paying 800 to $1,000 for a sight unbelievable
@ArcheryTalkVideo6 жыл бұрын
I don’t think Garmin expects the majority of archers to buy it. It’s definitely a niche product. But for people who are dropping $1500 on a bow, it may be an option
@pahuntnut5 жыл бұрын
Your average hunter is not paying $800 for a sight. But they are paying $200 - 300
@rebel1sniper5 жыл бұрын
Why wouldn’t your just buy a whole other bow I’d rather have a better bow than a better site
@ArcheryTalkVideo5 жыл бұрын
You can certainly do that. But I’d suggest that the move from a 2017/18 flagship bow to a 2020 flagship bow will have much less effect on a hunter than moving from a regular multi-pin sight to the Xero.
@savageclonetrooper90706 жыл бұрын
Oh hell no I went on amazon to but this it’s 900 hundred dollars.
@5jjt6 жыл бұрын
So? What, are you poor? Jk
@savageclonetrooper90706 жыл бұрын
Justin noo because I already have a good scope that cost fifty dollars and it is perfect to shooting to 75 yard
@5jjt6 жыл бұрын
@@savageclonetrooper9070 I was kidding. Shoot, I would have to think long and hard before spending $75 on a sight.
@savageclonetrooper90706 жыл бұрын
Justin lol I know I was just picking. It was a Christmas gift so I didn’t ha e to worry so much on the cost
@itscork6 жыл бұрын
Is that American dollars? Or pesos?
@aznsushi414 жыл бұрын
aimbot
@bricenray79974 жыл бұрын
"Another second or two" well youve unspld me, i thought it was cool but id rather use a 3 pin sight and save $1k to save those two seconds😂
@martywhitt25396 жыл бұрын
This for someone who got more fuckn money they do since
@wadeh.78615 жыл бұрын
Buck of a lifetime is under your stand. Dead battery. Crap...
@ArcheryTalkVideo5 жыл бұрын
Or...you can make sure you put a fresh battery in before hunting season begins and not worry about it again for 6-12 months. You are far more likely to forget your release aid than run out of battery.
@ShootStraight846 жыл бұрын
That rain or melted snow in that glass.... no matter what you say it will not work it will affect your view. And for $800 base!!!!!! Get out of town lol
@ArcheryTalkVideo6 жыл бұрын
You’re suggesting I abandon my practical experience in the field with the product and go with your theories based on (I’m assuming...always dangerous) a product you haven’t used? Sounds good to me. That’s just good science.
@ShootStraight846 жыл бұрын
ArcheryTalk no, I’m not suggesting anything. You post a video people comment their opinion what you do Is yours to decided .