Garten of Banban 2 Is Somehow Even Worse

[@davidbraccini4770]

The funniest part is that Banban is supposed to be always happy children mascot, yet he sounds uninterested all the time.

[@MangoraHorror]

If I had to be around children all day I’d sound pretty dead inside too

[@cartwithmultiplets]

​@@MangoraHorrorI have to be around children all day everyday. it sucks.

[@redacted3876]

If I had to be part of this game I would sound the exact same

[@YkwhatIwannafuckJake]

14:54

[@robokyluver985]

@@YkwhatIwannafuckJake Can you shur.up man??? Uuggghhh shakes butt

[@Lilajade20]

Note: If your 3d model has more polygons than the ink demon from BATDR, do not implement it into the game. Another note: I don't receive notifications from youtube anymore, so I won't see this very often.

[@joaopedrofm1299]

even the god damn remote has more poligons then the ink demon from BATDR

[@dc1054]

May I have an explanation? I don’t understand Edit: thank you for the explanations, very interesting stuff

[@crowwithanxiety5459]

​@@dc1054 basically more ploygons = bad

[@The.Heart.Unceasing]

@@dc1054 3D models are made with a wireframe of triangles called "polygons", the more there are in a model, the more ressource intensive it is to render, so it's important to optimize it a maximum to have no more than necessary. the models of the game are not optimized *at all*.

[@dc1054]

@@crowwithanxiety5459 ok

[@mrNECROMON]

Regarding the 3d models I just started learning blender and I almost had a heart attack the first time i saw the polygon count It is absolutely ridiculous, you just need 1% of the polygons of a single monster for the entire cast of the game and more

[@Jimmy-xe5jd]

How many polygons were there? Iirc Dragalia Lost had their big models (Chronos, Bahamut, the angels, etc) at a modest 4-7K triangles and those looked great

[@mrNECROMON]

@@Jimmy-xe5jd not even 2b's ass has that many polygons

[@HydaGaeming]

@@Jimmy-xe5jd we do not talk about how many polygons there were.

[@Jimmy-xe5jd]

JESUS CHRIST THERE’S SO MANY POLYGONS

[@flow185]

It has allegedly more polys that the entirety of SM64.

[@hahafuni1183]

I absolutely *love* how before garden of banban came out pretty much everyone was hating on poppy playtime and then after banban came out everyone is like “yeah poppy playtime wasn’t that bad”

[@alvisigiuliano6184]

Exactly

[@getscookedcutely]

Becuase maybe Poppy Playtime wasn't even bad to begin with 💀? These guys' opinions run hot and cold fr

[@flow185]

@@getscookedcutely People hated the devs not the game. As shitty as they are thy made a decent game

[@UnknownUser_68]

@@flow185 For real.

[@mrconroy4672]

@@flow185 Hoping they do chapter 3 and beyond better. There’s potential for the concepts.

[@saltystick_99]

Words cannot describe how tempted I am to learn game design _just_ to make a actually decent horror game that isn't focused on deep lore and essentially just amounts to everything shown in game. "Is the killer a representation of a fear or morbid past?" "Nah, it's just evil for kicks lol"

[@tessenda2694]

You should do it!

[@saltystick_99]

@@tessenda2694 The farthest I've gotten with the concept is essentially "Resident Evil except the zombies are human-sized bipedal bugs"

[@tessenda2694]

@@saltystick_99 Cool!

[@genericname2747]

The real horror is there is no deeper meaning. They want to kill you for fun. That's all.

[@SableTheCrazyPerson]

The Character woke up and decided "Fuck it, I'm gonna be evil."

[@Bvbble73]

The developers blocking you on twitter is actually hilarious

[@YkwhatIwannafuckJake]

14:54

[@leonoraarocho658]

i just died of laughter bro i'm dead

[@somemadnessfan4763]

now that's what i call petty

[@Quackervoltz]

And then straight up talk shit about him behind his back

[@YkwhatIwannafuckJake]

@@leonoraarocho658 14:54

[@soleacorn1605]

I just want to point out, the ending is the EXACT same: a monster sending you down into an abyss while on an elevator

[@zafool4997]

Just like bendy!

[@jacobwebster2277]

Holy shit how did I not fucking see that

[@radpea7500]

How is it like Bendy?

[@jellyevil7163]

not really,one drags you with him and one just sees you drag your self same idea,different execution

[@tatarchan5212]

@@radpea7500 chapter 1 and chapter 3 of Batim. In 1, Henry get send tumbling down into the dept of studio by broken floor. In 3, Alice Angel sabotage the elevator and send us down below herself just to get her hands on perfect Boris.

[@NightRaiderTea]

As someone who did Game Art as a uni degree, our teachers will literally tell us that we need to keep our poly count down, and that ‘lots of polys are for movies. We are not movie makers’ etc. Long story short: the poly count stuff hurts me Edit; had a feel peeps would make jokes after I realised I miss typed xD it’s changed back to norm now

[@jacksoneustice]

Sorry you died, may you rest in peace 🙏

[@royalhydra9790]

If I have to die to get a uni degree, I’m going down swinging

[@Defa_Aja20]

Wait, you died?

[@Iyx0]

i’m scared, if you died how did you post this comment......

[@havvomusic]

The uni student from beyond the grave

[@Abblecrunk0795]

The thing that annoys me the most is that they label them as sequels when they should be labelled as chapters instead

[@ContraMasta]

They probably only called them sequels and not chapters, because that might get them sued by the poppy playtime devs, because of how on the nose the "inspiration" is.

[@Tulip_bip]

@@ContraMasta poppy playtime doesn't own the rights to the word "chapter" lmao. they also didn't come up with that idea, they did it because of bendy

[@Banana807]

​@@Tulip_bipand bendy didnt make the chapters thing either

[@Sylvia_Corvidev]

And if their justification is "Oh well we made minor changes to the drone between """games""" so it has to be a sequel!" they should talk to the changes in the battle system and ui from Deltarune Ch1 to Ch2

[@YourLocalCommenter0]

Honestly idk why they just don't make the chapters as DLCs for the main game instead like Poppy Playtime.

[@SuperGamingAli]

The developers found out what polygons are and fell in love 💀💀💀

[@hasnonamelol]

"with more polygons, comes more people who can't get a refund because their pc exploded"

[@elchuchooofin3807]

@@hasnonamelol lol

[@Phantoms3Dzone]

For me, I like designing Aircraft and I gotta say that's right XD more is not better

[@YourLocalCommenter0]

​@That Leo Yeah but i don't think a rectangle with a red button and stick needs to have more polygons than the entirety of Super Mario 64

[@ARCHIVED9610]

@@Phantoms3Dzonechecked your channel and :OO

[@Dreigonix]

The fact that Banban gets attention while garmentdistrict’s Strange Town/Of The Killer series languishes in obscurity is proof that justice is a distant memory.

[@bluerockcandy8344]

oh my god I love the 'Killer series, such an absolute gem

[@Dreigonix]

@@bluerockcandy8344 Yes! It needs more attention. I’m actually managing a wiki for it too: the Wiki of the Killer.

[@mrlaz9011]

could you give me the full name of the series? I'm trying to look it up

[@bluerockcandy8344]

@@Dreigonix ah right on! This series always slaps a smile on my face every time I see BB pop up in a new adventure ^^

[@Dreigonix]

@@mrlaz9011 Okay, I’m apparently not allowed to say “Gamejolt” without my comment getting blocked for spam.

[@brackern3967]

This game seems like my sleep paralysis demons had a meeting about everything that makes me tick...dialed up to 10...and smacked into the middle of a kindergarten lmao

[@whyiwakeup6460]

?

[@YkwhatIwannafuckJake]

14:54

[@liviwaslost]

Unlike garten of Banban my sleep paralysis is actually scary

[@whyiwakeup6460]

@I Can't Think of a Name it was worded weirdly and I thought they were defending it

[@brackern3967]

@@whyiwakeup6460 Sorry for the confusion! (Definitely not defending it lmao)

[@thebigidiot12thebiggestidi12]

I’m scared to see how many polygons a cup object has in this game

[@yomomma6559]

It has ♾️ polygons 💀

[@noveltyman6723]

The same amount as a toothbrush model found in Yandere Simulator.

[@eylon-wallstain]

Oh God. I can imagine my computer catching on fire already.

[@thebigidiot12thebiggestidi12]

@@yomomma6559 yeah i bet

[@TheBonkleFox]

The same amount as a flowerpot in final fantasy xiv 1.0

[@angelsartandgaming]

I haven't done 3D modeling in over 10 years and I'm behind on the tech, and I still was horrified by the polygon count!!

[@TheCrimsonElite666]

As someone who studied 3D modelling for a college course, looking at that remote's polygon count makes me irrationally angry.

[@airplanemaniacgaming7877]

@@TheCrimsonElite666 Nono, I'd say your anger is quite rationalised. You studied 3D modelling for a college course, so you know how this works. The models in-game show that the Quebecois Cuntphoric Brothers have no idea what the hell they're doing and just want to make a quick buck and thus made a cashgrab game.

[@iateastar]

I nearly had a heart attack when I saw the polygon count-

[@vtellal9198]

No lie, Banbaleena's voice actress has pretty great delivery. It's weird writing and certain sentences that stopped it from peaking.

[@maas1208]

Her Voice Actress deserves better.

[@davidbraccini4770]

Who could have guessed that the euphoric brothers would have rushed the development of Garten of Banban 2 to keep their franchise relevant?

[@neneenenejrkerre1828]

cant wait for ban ban 3 : coming out yesterday

[@Phoenix_Blader_93]

tbf these youtubers are keeping the game alive by constantly talking about it

[@Phoenix_Blader_93]

@LlEUCU. BEAU× yet the game is so bad that it needs to be milked

[@WhoAmIHmmm]

​@Your_Mom498 only sheeprampage have pointed out that aspect so far lol

[@scavor5iq149]

​@@WhoAmIHmmm everyone knows that KZbinrs keep it relevant but it's still funny to talk about and I guess everyone wins. No one is harming eachother

[@hazar6662]

This game is great because I no longer feel like a complete failure knowing someone made this game and thought it was worth 5 dollars

[@Dr.Oofers]

It’s one hell of a mood elevator.

[@hasnonamelol]

vampire survivors hailed as one of the best $5 games of all time: 8-bit 2D graphics are good enough banban 2 which also costs $5: WHY DON'T PEOPLE LIKE THIS GAME? IT HAS 200000 POLY MODELS!

[@kronalord3764]

@@hasnonamelol yomi hustle is the new goated 5$ game

[@HeathRat]

​@@kronalord3764Changed.

[@Yjg-malaeouron.-uhfn]

For 5 dollars you could have gotten any of the three Parascientific Escape games, which are fantastic escape room style games exclusive for the 3ds. Ps: i hope they get a steam/switch port because i like that series alot

[@valozzy]

As someone who struggles with meeting the poly count for VRC, the topology for these models are terrifying. The game looks so basic otherwise, but I would doubt you'd get good frames on anything other than a high end computer. Retopology takes a tedious amount of time and a lot of care, and the fact they put a godamn RAW SCULPT in their game really shows their passion.

[@valozzy]

Also literally I think I could model that remote in like 10 minutes and have like a 10th of the poly count. The cylinder for the button has an ABSURD poly count, and how it's shaded to look basic as hell it clearly doesn't need it! Like, just add a little beveling or something!

[@yeetoz8763]

Fun fact. The creators of the game “ranted” on Twitter about refunds of the game being that bad and called it scummy behavior and just went after random people who refunded. Like damn if you want to make it non refundable make it a dlc so people can’t idfk

[@dimolasic820]

fun fact: banban's model has more polygons than the entirety of super mario 64

[@Hitlercumslurper]

Im not sure I should believe this

[@DreamyTime_]

@@Hitlercumslurper actually it is confirmed

[@Hitlercumslurper]

Dam thats crazy

[@genericname2747]

I thought it was the remote that had more polygons

[@williamtheNWRS3class]

oh my g o d . i am flabbergasted by that fact omfg-

[@shannonrobbins59]

The title went from “It’s that bad” to “It’s that awful” Amazing character development

[@CrippledJokerlol]

People really need to ignore this game if we want it to go away

[@headcrabking9054]

thats usually how stuff dies off, through obscurity. If you really hate something, doom it to die alone. I feel like most fnaf youtubers forget how popularity works...

[@IMSAYINGNO7864]

​@@headcrabking9054fr fr i just made a comment about it please dont make any videos on it then

[@HenryTheCringeGuy]

i agree. the bad part is garten of banban 1 doesn't even have any single effort. but they treat it like high quality that should be mentioned

[@shreyatries2animate]

that's mostly what I've been trying to do. The key word is try

[@headcrabking9054]

@@shreyatries2animate it's easier to do when you're a content creator, as by the time you factor in the script and edit, you'll be dedicating hours to something that should be ignored. For all of us commoners, we're exposed to far less of this garbage, so when we pay attention to it, not only are we usually showing it to less people, but also for far less time.

[@vaehtay]

My biggest garten of banban 2 hot take is that I actually really, really like Banbalina’s voice acting, even if it’s good unintentionally. It’s amateur, but the non-seriousness of it gives Banbalina a sense of immaturity- like she has no clue what she’s doing while teaching, she’s just PLAYING school. It feels like she’s just imitating what she thinks a school environment is like. Especially with how nervous she sounds when she apologizes for getting things wrong, and with her yelling about how she was “actually trying to be a good teacher this time!”, or whatever. She’s sweet. I hope she shows up again.

[@ZhoYoo]

i can assure its not that deep, shes literally just decent

[@vaehtay]

@@ZhoYoo Oh, I assure you that I’m very aware of that. I never said she was an amazing voice actor, just that her voice actor fits the character very well.

[@marcantiojo7703]

"The way that the bird follows like a real predator is honestly terrifying"

[@ZhoYoo]

@@marcantiojo7703I get you

[@ZhoYoo]

@Vaeh Tay yall be hyping everything, can't believe that in this day and age a garbage game like that one gets attention, the voice actress probably just read her lines one time in the mic and they called it a day. it's so fucking cringe hearing the dialogue "I'm going to rip you into pieces" she says it like an edgy 13 year old who's trying so hard to get you to think she's scary. this shit is an absolute garbage of a game that's only made to steal your money by being cheap and mediocre, but props to them I guess since people like you still like it

[@chesvap]

I remember watching some Russian streamer playing garten of banban 2. He completed the game in less than a hour, only dying twice in chase sequence. Edit: next day he refunded the game while streaming.

[@Dr.Oofers]

Epic

[@blastbot7339]

Based

[@bluedragonfly8139]

Sounds like a shitty thing to do. Why would you refund a game unless there's an actual problem with it? (No, 'but I didn't like the game' isn't a problem with the game.)

[@blastbot7339]

@@bluedragonfly8139 did you even watch the video?

[@blastbot7339]

@@bluedragonfly8139 did you even watch the video?

[@wolf73371]

Dude, their twitter is such a mess today. I am glad to see you going about everything happening very maturely though. With them blocking creators that don't like their games, I don't see much improvement in their future. They've blocked Pastra after his statement of people shouldn't waste money on Banban as he isn't buying them either. It also looks like Phisnom was blocked as well for giving Bendy and the Dark Revival keys and telling people to play something that the creators actually seem to care about. It probably wouldn't be so bad if they took the criticisms received to heart instead of essentially saying "there's nothing wrong with our game, you're just mad it's successful." It's not the first game that's blown up that the majority of creators I've seen call terrible. I mean, just look at Hello Neighbor. Even after all that, they shouldn't get threats like they're saying. I don't care how bad the games are or how childish the creators get defending themselves, it should never escalate that far. At that point, the best thing to do would be to ignore it if the creators aren't taking any critism. Guess we'll see if they learned anything in 2 months when Banban 3 predictably comes out.

[@chaosinc.382]

Phil did what?? Hahahahaha Thats fuckin funny

[@johnathanegbert9277]

Don't be like Yandere Simulator, people. You already know why.

[@maas1208]

BanBan 2 also killed Phil's Wifi Router

[@gracekelley2907]

The most stressful thing about this was watching Phisnom's stream and being worried he wouldn't be able to refund the game. When someone can speed through the game in about an hour just to refund it... you know you've got a bad game

[@zafool4997]

I’m concerned they’re going to make the third chapter even longer so that even if it’s speedran, It can’t be refunded.

[@ShenDoodles]

Length isn't the problem. A longer game isn't necessarily better. The problem is that it's shit.

[@shookengie370]

Well idk man a short fun and game is pretty good Except this is a short and painful game

[@laurenjones8196]

that was literally my same concern when i played it 😭 especially at the end, with the Roblox obby with the fucked-up momentum physics, i was getting so flustered i wasn't sure if i'd be able to meet the under 2-hour quota to refund this awful experience :')

[@gracekelley2907]

@@ShenDoodles That too.

[@sltrskid]

i still cannot wrap my head around the fact that i, someone who has never touched blender past the default cube, could probably make better optimized models than the ones in garten of banban

[@njackson6807]

There's no way the remote should be that poorly optimized right? It should be like 4 shapes I would think: big gray rectangle, red cylinder, and then like 2 more red shapes for the antenna

[@defaulted9485]

Bro, I've seen people makes more optimized 3D Model with 0 modelling experience... IN 3D POVRAY for university passing grade. That program broke when someone put more than 5000 lines of code, and I'm baffled how Euphoric Brothers made a worse model than that.

[@BoopaKing]

@@njackson6807 If I were to hastily recreate a not-melting-potatoes version of the button (next to no Blender experience) I would use a box, a cylinder for button, and two cylinders for the antenna, and then dent the "wire" of the antenna by pulling in some vertexes. Not even a fraction of a fraction of a fraction of their button, let alone their _antenna_ should appear anywhere near any kind of remote in a videogame. And that spider is just a crime against software.

[@Damian-cilr2]

i could probably recreate it in like 5 minutes.but then again i forget the shortcuts for everything in blender so easily that i dont exactly know tf to do most of the time

[@laser_uhhhh]

its literally 5 boxes, how do they make it have 500000 polygons, like you need to WANT it to have that many polygons its physically impossible to do it by accident

[@charliekicinski9536]

Wow I can’t believe the gap between Garten of Banban 1 and 2 is smaller than Poppy Playtime 1 and 2. Didn’t think it was possible

[@nexus3756]

agreed its phenominal development work. theres no way they made an entire game and cut it up into say idk like 3 - 5 parts. that could never happen. they wouldnt cut the game up into say 3 - 5 parts and then release them over maybe like a years time just about to drive shit merch sales. never would I ever think that.

[@tibi5033]

No no

[@youdarnweebsgetoffmylawn]

Looking at how the game looks and how so many assets aren't even made by them, it's not too surprising that this game was made in around 2 months

[@damienearl8302]

I'd say "all jokes aside", and was about to when I saw this comment, but when I saw the *absurd* polygon count in their models...yeah, how did they get it out this fast?!

[@YkwhatIwannafuckJake]

14:54

[@AlexDayz]

When Banban said “it’s Garten time” I felt that

[@loganentertainment1814]

You aren't wrong. Also, UniqueGeese did an amazing job remaking the first game, and he did it in a week with no experience at all.

[@JRexTheKing]

The worst part is they try so desperately to take advantage of the Steam Refund time limit. We were so close to missing the window on Phisnom’s streams. Thankfully we made it.

[@Damian-cilr2]

even then you can still convince steam support to refund even if you dont get to refund it within the 2 hour time limit (atleast i heard that its possible,dunno if it is but idk)

[@Dr.Oofers]

The fact that there’s people out there that get mad at you for beating a game and then refunding it is genuinely sad. If I didn’t enjoy my time throughout, I should still refund it.

[@benro6564]

It is so unbelievably sketchy that the sequel is put on steam immediately when the games release. Imagine if at the end of fnaf 2 (when Scott was already aware of the series' popularity), he put a big "wishlist fnaf 3 now" button at the end of the game. I think the reason why they do it is to manufacture hype. They spend so little time on the games, so the sooner they release the trailers, the less apparent it becomes that they are rushed out. It could also be that they have to keep kids invested in the series, otherwise they will forget in between entries and move on to the next trending mascot horror game

[@tylern6420]

hi benro

[@K3N0PSIA]

They really did try their best to voice act, but banban sounds like hes gonna start crying lol

[@gh0stgarbage]

The funniest part of this is how many people tried to finish the game before the time limit so they could refund the game

[@animated_finn]

Honestly my favourite piece of voice acting is the snail (Slow Seline). It fits so well and I love it so good like actually. Even the sort of echo effect helps it

[@HyakuyaFutaba]

the thing i hate about the drone is that you could literally just press the button

[@xenmysterious5062]

Nah. Are you saying humans have arms. . ? I thought you had telekinesis like everyone else.

[@error-try-again-later]

The deep lore is that the protagonist has T rex arms.

[@alansmith6310]

the way the snail slowly approaches like a real predator is honestly terrifying

[@amistake165]

This is definitely the most scary part of the game . It’s only surpass by purple bird thing staring at you and the attacking you

[@alansmith6310]

just incase; THIS COMMENT IS A JOKE, I AM NOT A CHILD CLAIMING A SNAIL IS TERRIFYING.

[@dittoflareon]

snail would have been scary if it was more obviously blind and followed you based on movement/sound, but the design is slightly unnerving. (also yeah i know this comment is a joke)

[@Ze_eT]

I loved watching the Pyrocynical stream just for the Snail. First, the snail kills him before he even enters the snail room, because he walked against the wall next to the snail room, and the snail then teleports into him. Next, he takes a couple of times until he guesses it's a RedL-GreenL gimmick. Finally, on the second to final attempt, he gets through the door he is supposed to, and then dies _after_ the door closed behind him, with Stream Chat claiming this is "not supposed to happen".

[@damienearl8302]

@@alansmith6310 The fact that this is exactly, *by the letter* , what people said about Opila is what clued me in-

[@aboy-xu9ri]

you know, there was a part at the baby opila bird section where i randomly stumbled into the corner and somehow died to slow seline, which made me respawn at it's hallway and let me skip the entire baby opila bird section despite this, i still wasnt able to beat it in time to refund it

[@Alfe5]

The scariest thing in Banban is the god damn poly counts and auto UV unwrapping. It actually pains me.

[@Blonder_Studio]

wait did they actually do that? didn't they put a seam somwhere on banban and manually unwrap him? damn

[@bukachell]

As someone who's done 3D modelling of characters for a while now, seeing the topology of the models is killing me

[@doran2003]

Garten of Banban somehow feels like they used an Advanced AI that can do everything from writing a Story to Coding, 3D Models and everything else, and gave it every Horror Game in Existence, and told it to "make a Mascot Horror Game with a Gadget as a Gimmick but it should be Child Friendly with Puzzles" and the Second time they used the same Sentence but added "with more Puzzles and somehow longer" at the end.

[@johnathanegbert9277]

As far as I know, no such ai exists.

[@themyofmy]

​@@johnathanegbert9277no one said it did???

[@theultrafinder]

I was actually thinking that if you beat the game, they wouldn’t let you leave until the timer hit 2 hours and 1 minute so you couldn’t refund

[@bowldawg4394]

i doubt they would even know how to program something like that into their games

[@atrane365]

​@bowldawg4394 well, even if they could, i have an alt and f4 keys that can counter that argument

[@randomcharacters0]

I speedrun this game, and I love this game because it's way more broken than the first game and its super funny. It does still suck though lmao. You can skip the entire class sequence and get flung by walking into a random piece of floor after the Nabnab chase... if that doesn't show how broken this game is idk what will

[@tomdragamer]

As someone who has a diploma for 3D animation and VFX, it physically HURTS seeing those models. Even we were instructed to be careful with polygon counts because Maya and ZBrush would lag and crash if we pushed it too far.

[@wilesnailspower9781]

As someone who’s learned 3D modeling the number of polygons on those models started giving me Yandere Simulator flashbacks. You don’t need to subdivide that many times to make a nice, detailed, functional model.

[@ChiliPeppor]

Garden of Ban Ban is such a good game it has cured cancer, saved lives, solved world hunger, and made world peace I hope they make 37 more

[@garrettmurphy2447]

Are you serious?

[@ChiliPeppor]

@@garrettmurphy2447 lol no

[@theRealmcMoonBall]

At this point they might lol

[@cosmicklampzy1222]

cant wait for 2029 when they make garten of banban 58

[@FlameyClockspeed]

(not a joke) my brother actually thinks this 😭

[@santino7470]

The way the game cuts off at the end makes me see this chapter and Chapter 3 as more of 2A and 2B. Just was so sudden, and on an elevator AGAIN.

[@strawberryshortpup3655]

The polygon count is scarier than the games themselves.

[@ClamChow]

If I had a nickel for every time someone mentioned Pizza tower in a Garten of Banban video I would have two nickels which isn't a lot but it's weird that it happened twice

[@botbuster8841]

average banban fan average pizza tower enjoyer

[@meatloafer2762]

@@botbuster8841average banban fan: 🤓 Average Pizza Tower enjoyer: 💪

[@Definitely_a_Fox]

Okay so, when sculpting a model, it will have a stupid amount of polygons, but you're supposed to go back over the model and do a process known as retopology on it. Retopology is when the artist manually goes over the sculpt and basically creates a more optimised, lower poly version using the original sculpt as a reference. I'll admit, the idea of retopology strikes fear into my heart, and that's why I only ever use other methods of 3D modelling that already result in a lower poly model, but if a 3D artist is going to sculpt a model, it's a necessary evil. HELL, If they wanted to be lazy, Blender has a modifier that can automatically lower a poly count of a 3D model. It won't be perfect and it'll be jank, but anything would be better than having a model with more polygons than an entire level should have!!!

[@nexus3756]

they made bird up even better this game. I expect part 3 to have an entire bird army.

[@fylvidz]

Learning that not just the Banban developers are french canadian but also freaking Smike of all people is the most surprising thing I heard all day (because I also am french canadian and somehow never knew)

[@Kirbbo]

The game would of been better if BanBan ended the game by saying “Erm… Well that just happened.”

[@remyrichardson8614]

*walks into room* banbans right behind me isnt he

[@airplanemaniacgaming7877]

@@remyrichardson8614 _Studio laughtrack, as the Seinfeld theme starts playing_

[@remyrichardson8614]

@@airplanemaniacgaming7877 *ICarly scene change sound* Man, I can’t believe Jumbo Josh won’t go out to prom with me! What should I do?

[@ARCHIVED9610]

@@remyrichardson8614I CANT BREATHE THANK YOU AGAHSHAJ

[@remyrichardson8614]

@@ARCHIVED9610 thxx

[@kitcat4053]

the scariest part of ban ban is the frame rate

[@airplanemaniacgaming7877]

@Jacob Hingst The Billion Polygon Spider ate your PC.

[@kittesereten]

pour être honnête si il avait pas beaucoup de polygon les graphiques seront aux niveaux 0 et ça sera plus nul

[@ryuzxa]

Bro that polygon count gave me major flashback about that toothbrush

[@ladypangaea4801]

I know nothing about 3D models at all, but I find it baffling that Banban has an absurd amount of polygons for how simplistic his design is. Nothing about that fact adds up. That aside, yes I will join your Nabnab club. Nabnab stans unite! 🕷

[@IreSketch]

the models being too much polygons kinda reminds me of the fact huey from paper mario color splash has more polygons than the whole mario 64 map, the whole map

[@johnathanegbert9277]

Dude. Huey is a sprite. Not a model. Sprites do not have triangles, only pixels.

[@andrewaftontheandroidhedge2780]

@@johnathanegbert9277 i think he means when huey gets an actual model like at the start end of the game

[@milkforever]

@@johnathanegbert9277 WELL TECHNICALLY 🤓Sprites in a 3D environment can be squares with a texture slapped on them.

[@foamy999]

Considering garten of ban ban takes place in Quebec, it's almost certainly based on a true story.

[@lastchanc3stars]

Elaborate.

[@foamy999]

@@lastchanc3stars Making a Kindergarten that has a huge complex underneath, and that also has living characters that are made from injecting some random green juice into them is the most Québécois shit I’ve ever heard in my life.

[@kittesereten]

quoic-

[@enstrobia]

I actually do some 3d modeling from time to time, those models can be fixed easy by using un-subdivide, the raw sculpted one could also be fixed with it, but it would be a bit more disfigured and would need work

[@Blonder_Studio]

yup, or using the decimate modifier in Blender, or straight up retopologizing (its also not that complicated as it seams, just add a plane, shrinkwrap it to the mesh, add a mirror if you need to, and just rebuild the mesh with the planes you added and make cuts where you need to)

[@bobbybooshay5388]

"Sir! We already sub divided the model 3 times. We ca-" "More." "But Sir." "MORE!!!"

[@jellyknight7448]

Why Banban has a monotone voice is because he is actually a random doctor. I’m not gonna say more

[@Dr.Oofers]

No no, tell us more.

[@lastchanc3stars]

He's actually Red from Rainbow Friends, isn't it?

[@jellyknight7448]

@@Dr.Oofers and his experiments are made because of the same reason

[@rosemary3029]

Bro my doctor had more enthusiasm than ban ban

[@InternetFanatic]

The current state of indie horror and mascot horror right now could just be described using “in the virtual” by Linkin Park “I tried so hard and got so far but in the end it doesn’t even matter” representing how you don’t have to try hard to make a profit “I put my in trust in you” representing the kids feeling betrayed by the sheer disappointment of them and FNAF SB being bad and even let's players being disappointed “What it meant to me will eventually be a memory” represents the forgetabilty of mascot horror as they’ll just end up being a popular that happened by the time the final chapter comes out and the kiddy audience will not think about it fondly and remember it as something that happened Now I have an idea of an sfm animation where Freddy and a Crying Child which represents kid fans of Mascot Horror singing the songs

[@johnathanegbert9277]

Oh, FNAF Security Breach was nothing compared to this, because at least they tried there. Admittedly, a little too hard, seeing as it was delayed several times, and it was too big a project for that small a studio, but still, they tried. They didn't try here. Also, please do not make porn of this, because this game is supposed to be about a kindergarten, not a freaking strip club.

[@themyofmy]

​@@johnathanegbert9277john egbert *CANONICALLY* HATES SEX /j

[@InternetFanatic]

@@johnathanegbert9277 You’re f*cking right I was so lost in the trolling ideas I forgot this was a kindergarten

[@ARCHIVED9610]

oh god what happened here

[@kittyjayway]

I was actually really excited to see BanBan in the sequel at first because I thought there was some element of mystery to him based on the fact that he didn't appear outside of wall art in the first game, not to mention his strange "sharing" message. I actually thought the whole concept of this kindergarten and even just BanBan himself was kinda something if actual effort was put into it. But Ban's VA immediately made me so upset to the point I cared more about the snail with one line and the toad character who once again, was only seen as wall art. I wanted desperately to see an underdog story with BanBan as very tiny things about the games have some sort of spark to me but BanBan 2 is a joke and the devs don't care at all.

[@Dr.Oofers]

Fun fact, Ban’s VA is voiced by one of the devs.

[@kittyjayway]

@@Dr.Oofers Yeah, I know that's what makes it WORSE.

[@ProtoBlueGaming]

I've never seen someone tear a game to shreds like this.

[@charmyzard]

Using the Opila cry as a censor sound was actually really funny.

[@SoMNoMW]

I'm so glad I made the Garten of Banban subreddit because the Euphoric Brothers gave the second game to me for free

[@Dr.Oofers]

Glowing brained genius.

[@erickpenate3038]

banban 2 is basically banban 1 with extra steps

[@inky___4402]

honestly its a cash cow at this point, somehow it got ITS OWN RIP OFF 💀💀

[@yomomma6559]

No way a Rip-off of a Rip-off 💀💀

[@Dr.Oofers]

Ladies and gentlemen we are witnessing our first ever double rip-off.

[@sml2k186]

What makes it worse is if I’m not mistaken, the rip off is BETTER than this shit

[@themyofmy]

​@@sml2k186THATS SO FUNNY HELP

[@genericname2747]

What

[@crystalgoddess4085]

The whole polygon count thing reminds me of one funny thing in Final Fantasy XIV 1.0, there was a plant pot that had more polygons than the player model did.

[@Android2751]

7:35 on the American money thing. Here in Canada, depending on how close to the border you are, it's rare but not unheard of to run into the occasional bit of American cash in circulation. Plus I get the feeling these developers didn't want to take the extra time to retexture the money to the proper currency.

[@randomgamer625]

You could also say that America took over in that world

[@garyflaherty6495]

This game is just beautiful, I think everyone needs to bird up. I personally believe that we need to give this game the game of the year award I also believe we need a opila bird cult 😂👍

[@The_real_shockwave67]

I agree I love this game

[@YkwhatIwannafuckJake]

14:54

[@flow185]

Forget about Pizza Tower. This is our goty

[@headcrabking9054]

Fun fact: if you don't give attention to something, the less people look at (and give money to) it! Doesn't matter if its as negative as possible, attention is attention, all press is good press. That's why the suicide rates in Las Vegas casinos are lower than expected, nobody reports on it when it happens, which lowers the number of people who do it.

[@bruxtle]

I seriously don't understand why people are even talking about this game. It's not even so bad that it's interesting, it's just a dogshit game.

[@headcrabking9054]

@@bruxtle true! People should be taking about dikatana or something

[@serhumano3692]

​@@bruxtle probably because the firsy game was so bad it was funny. Now this one is so bad it is rotten.

[@bruxtle]

@@serhumano3692 the first game was the same shit though.

[@neoqwerty]

@@headcrabking9054 Forget Daikatana, even Virtual Hydlide deserves more attention than this game

[@Bofrab]

That’s actually the Ink Demon from Dark Revival, which makes it even more mind blowing that Ban Ban has more polygons!

[@Legoguy9875]

14:53 That remote model is especially horrendous. I can somewhat understand the high polycount for the character models (though it's still absurdly high for how basic they look), but how do you manage to make a basic one-button remote have more polygons than the entirety of Ocarina of Time? I'm a beginner at modeling, and even I could make that same model in 5 minutes with the same amount of detail but with hardly a fraction of the polygons. I get it, the developers are two brothers in high school, they're obviously still learning, but it's a wonder that they didn't see how these models would be an optimization nightmare.

[@Xiiki]

12:17 you can joke that it’s a Roblox obby all you want, but that texture is literally a roblox diamond plate texture, you’ve gotta be fucking kidding me.

[@iIIuminious]

Fr, im pretty sure the sand is also the roblox sand texture

[@KelpClown]

Maybe the real Garten of Banban 2 was the friends we made along the way. #iheartbanban

[@hauntedlemon]

as someone who spent the last semester studying 3D modeling and rigging, those models put me in a cold sweat. 1) the render time would be so fcking long 2) that many polygons makes it harder for the mesh to move right when rigging and weight painting oh my god the overlap 3) how many times did they push the smooth button?????

[@ARCHIVED9610]

smoothing 37 times must make it the BEST quality huh

[@ChezburgerGuy]

The reason the game is so much worse is because… they actually tried..

[@AriaKyuKyu]

Actually my big problem with BanBan, is that this is supposed to be a Kindergarten, but looks like a big laboratory test

[@andrewsfamily8173]

I remember showing up to the latter half of the live stream, the most investing part was watching uhyeah refund the game.

[@Huxley_Day]

Great, now I can't stop thinking of Smike voicing Stinger Flynn.

[@aleph-nil]

the state of mascot horror games now is really sad

[@Hemogg1]

Plz just play more games

[@Boyfridg]

@@Hemogg1 bro wth do you mean like the only new decent horror game is Sons of the Forest i guess 💀

[@aleph-nil]

@@Hemogg1 top 10 actually scary, good and famous mascot horror games that came out in 2020-2023: thank you for reading my top 10 list!!!!

[@Hemogg1]

​@@Boyfridg That is exactly why you should play more horror games

[@youdarnweebsgetoffmylawn]

What you should be saying is the state of Mascot horror games is really sad. The horror game genre as a whole isn't bad right now, just the Mascot horror subgenre.

[@skelatongamer4476]

Apparently the remote has more polygons then the ENTIRETY OF SM64

[@Duck-Confused]

This shitty ass 4 blocks has more polygons than an entire masterpiece?

[@Sakura_Bloom27]

Garten Of Banban is literally the reason why I'm studying Gaming Level 3 in September. The gaming community needs more *actually decent* and *playable* games

[@willyzsafe-roomu9435]

The funniest part about Developers blocking you on twitter is that in one of their videos they said that "they are happy about the memes" and other stuff, hmm...

[@Tng-o391]

The fact you used jumbo Josh’s “I’m jumbo josh bruh” line from zamination in this video is so clever and I don’t know why.

[@DustD.Reaper]

Watch how Jumbo Joshs jumbo ass will be a bigger asset than entire Hello Neighbour house in the next chapter

[@maas1208]

I'm dead 💀💀💀

[@kirbykraftgames]

Banban looks like the kind of game that's made as a franchise killer, and not in the good way

[@marhola100]

That 3D model part killed me. I have OCD and my models are always as optimized as I manage to.

[@shibainu2528]

14:15 I'm not a game developer, but you know you did something wrong with optimization of your models when your "Wireframe" mesh, showing the outlines of all the triangles (AKA polygons, tris), looks more like a tinfoil mesh or a texture that would be placed on the model to make it look like a shadow creature.

[@shibainu2528]

There is this one youtube channel I recall, showing how many polygons that game characters have over their game series. Mario from Super Mario 64 for example has a couple hundred, around the amount that the exterior of Peach's castle has.

[@olafguenther8235]

yo i work for a company that does 3d visualisation in commercials and cinema. those models and polycounts are like something from my first month at the design academie i studied at. i am impressed that those models dont break and crash as hard as they should in animtion.

[@itzflare]

bro I clicked this video at the speed of light. Love these videos. Keep up the good work :)

[@nightmare_68]

This is probably one of the few times I've watched an UhYeah stream and heard him angrily CUSS OUT the creators at the end. Also..those 3d models are such a huge yikes

[@Nebulia]

my favourite part of garten of banban 2 was when ban ban came in, said "it's banbaning time" and then banbaned all over the place. brought tears to my eyes

[@Cupdev]

for the blender newbs: *including you euthroic brothers* goto the modifiers tab on the right bar, find the modifier called decimate, then make the model have less polys. simple as that. how they never knew this and they've made games for what seems like at least a few years is baffling to me

[@UntaperedLeech]

The story, the emotional scene where nabnab said "its nabnabbin" time and nabbed all over the place. truly an emotional masterpiece.

[@mallermart]

Fr😭 We have been waiting for him to finally make the decision for 4 whole seasons and now he did it... his character has grown so much over the years and now that his arc has come full circle I don't think I see the world the same anymore...😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭

[@Popgurliess]

Bro y'all nabnab is so spooky guys dude

[@Ven0m.snak3]

Was there for the stream. Can confirm you are the biggest bird

[@Nightcrawler-zv1hx]

Remember when this kind of games were unique?

[@HeirofDacia]

You know what would have been slightly better than that snail of a drone? A toy crossbow with a plunger and rope attached. Hell, just let the player throw rocks or whatever at the buttons, since literally anything would be faster and potentially more fun that what the developers decided to use.

[@newman_real3079]

I'm still recovering from that "creepy" fnaf animation episode. Thanks uhyeah (love you ❤️)