Ford 4R75E Teardown, No 3rd Gear

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In this video, i teardown this Ford Transmission that would runaway or spin up when shifted to 3rd gear, this actually had no 3rd or 4th gear but the problem i found was with the direct or 3rd clutch drum. I replace the drum with an aftermarket drum which is ok to use. Thanks for watching. Gary

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@arturbercan Жыл бұрын

Thank you for sharing your knowledge, by passing it on to others you are improving and facilitating lives

@patrickreaves8053 Жыл бұрын

Thank you for sharing your knowledge and tips , your one of yhe only builders who post on KZbin who actually calls the trans by the correct name , other builders with 40 years experience mis identify the ford 4r70e for a 4r70w. I know they are real similar, but hey , if you identify as a master builder , you could at least identify the units correctly. Lol But your videos have given me enough guidance and courage to build my own 4r70e transmission. So thanks man.

@BenjaminBrookshire-ok8kj Жыл бұрын

Why do you all pull the pump before the valve body?

@johnnymccollum8698 6 ай бұрын

Thank you for posting this video. My 2009 F150 is free revving when it shifts into third. I pulled the pan and found a ton of metal shavings on the magnet, but no clutch material settled on the bottom. The fluid was filthy though (not my fault, I bought it this way). I bet those shavings were once the splines on the third gear drum. Watching this video saved me from wasting time and money trying to change shift solenoids to get it working. I think I'll just pull the transmission and take it to a friend who is a retired transmission builder and let him handle it.

@GaryFerraro 6 ай бұрын

Probably a lot more than splines if pan has lots of metal

@jammiedevaney Жыл бұрын

I have 2000 with the 4r70w and mine skips 3rd gear and shifts hard into OD. Any ideas what this could be?

@xdroguidrogax 8 ай бұрын

Do you fix it? I have the same problem

@Domistroit 4 ай бұрын

Tanks Gary, you are a Good person!!!

@oldschool9746 Жыл бұрын

Good to see you back Gary!

@GaryFerraro Жыл бұрын

Thanks, we are so busy i'm having trouble posting a video every week. As always, thanks for watching

@SmoothOperator2132 11 ай бұрын

@Gary Ferraro What is the Part Number for the 3rd Gear drum? I'm experiencing the same "No 3rd Gear" Issue with my 2004 Expedition.

@TomAutoTV Жыл бұрын

Thanks For Sharing Keep up the good work

@aureliojuarezolaya5856 10 ай бұрын

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@frankwrenchman4573 Жыл бұрын

What can I say good job Gary

@MrUbiquitousTech 6 ай бұрын

Great information, thanks for sharing!

@Drezonline 5 ай бұрын

19:18 looking for connector part number.mine has oil in it and i cannot find it ANYWHERE!

@GaryFerraro 5 ай бұрын

where are you located?

@JeremyHall-p2c 3 ай бұрын

Question I lost all forward drive. Removed transmission and the first set of clutch packs I believe it’s the reverse/overdrive set. Anyway there is a wavy snapping inside that broke. What are those called and where would I start looking for one?

@GaryFerraro 3 ай бұрын

That is the reverse input clutch return spring, Where are you located?

@playharder1435 2 ай бұрын

Thanks a billion, very informative, very helpful :)

@roamin-ws2vt 4 ай бұрын

Hey there, working on one of these and have a question. I had the valve body out (trans still on the the truck) for another repair and that 2/3 accumulator retainer and spring popped out. Trying to get it back in place and having trouble getting the retainer to stay put so I can get the valve body back up. Any tips on that? Can I just use some pliers to pull the tabs out a bit to get it to stay in there?

@GaryFerraro 4 ай бұрын

Do you have Transgel grease?

@roamin-ws2vt 4 ай бұрын

@@GaryFerraro Tried that. Works fine for the somethings, but I can't get enough goop to keep any pressure against the spring. Just falls out.

@GaryFerraro 4 ай бұрын

@@roamin-ws2vt may need someone to hold it in place with a screw driver or something while your going up with the valvebody

@superclarkson 9 ай бұрын

Thanks for the information. Could you tell me the reason for the lack of pressure in the cooling lines on 4r75e. Only if you briefly plug the outlet to the cooler (squeeze the hose), the pressure appears for half an hour. Then the same story. The tranny sometimes overheats I think it's about the valve body bypass valve. Can you tell me whats wrong ? Thanks

@GaryFerraro 9 ай бұрын

may have something going on with the heat exchanger in the radiator if trans is overheating. so your not getting a quart of fluid out of the line in 20 seconds

@superclarkson 9 ай бұрын

@@GaryFerraro i replaced radiator, cooler,lines. Btw i dont have thermostat so my cooler lines are straight. Fluid wont come strictly out of tranny. Certainly it runs but flow is soooo weak. When i try to block this line with pliers, fluod collects in a line and after that it flows like it should. And the cooler is warm. It lasts for 20-30 mins, and after that it returns to weak flow. I got one quart in 5 mins. This is bad.

@GaryFerraro 9 ай бұрын

somethings wrong, maybe a problem inside the trans or valvebody. It shifts ok?@@superclarkson

@superclarkson 9 ай бұрын

@@GaryFerraro it shifts great! No slipping, nothing wrong with tranny. I found f095 valve by sonnax. I think thats what i should replace.

@homerdodd4264 7 ай бұрын

Gary: WITH YOUR ASSISTANCE, I did a soft rebuild two years and 10K miles ago on my '04 F150, just wondering if I should change the fluid again, since the new clutches have worn in now........THANKS

@GaryFerraro 7 ай бұрын

10K miles to early, how does the fluid look? should still be clean

@nosamstop674 4 ай бұрын

I have an 04 expedition Eddie Bauer 5.4 i swaped the trans with a used one. For 3 weeks i had no issues all of a sudden it would not shift passed 3 i replaced all the sensors in the pan, filter, fluid and TCM no change. Can someone help me please. Also after it's warmed up there is a delay once I put it into drive I have to tap the accelerator a bit for it to kick into gear and then once I drive it it only gets first and second if I slow down too much it as if it goes back into neutral.

@GaryFerraro 4 ай бұрын

so instead of shifting to 3rd it shifts to neutral?

@LC8FTW Жыл бұрын

Here's a symptom from an '09 Towncar: WIth the shifter in D, after coming to a stop a light, when attempting to take off again it gets no forward drive. Engine rpm's go up, but no forward drive leaving the traffic light with shifter in D. When the shifter is moved down to 2, the transmission does engage and drive forward. What might be the cause?

@iankinsella8465 6 ай бұрын

You obviously lost first gear.

@gtvanderwood Жыл бұрын

My 07 f150 neutrals out shifting into 3rd. With overdrive off it just stays in first and second and doesnt try to shift past 2nd. I checked the valve body and overdrive servo but that all looks fine. Not sure what to do next. Maybe attempt whats in this video?

@GaryFerraro Жыл бұрын

If this neutrals in 3rd, your direct clutch is no good

@TheJh2007 Жыл бұрын

Hey, great video, experiencing a similar issue with mine. Car has a slight hissing/ticking noise in 2nd and either spins up slightly or has a hard shift when changing to 3rd. Dropped the pan and found some very fine metal shavings. Any idea if it could be the clutch pack going or something requiring a more in depth rebuild?

@GaryFerraro Жыл бұрын

could be a few things, the 2-3 accumulator in the case, the direct drum clutch pack, even seen the separator plate crack where the 2-3 accumulator top hits the plate

@aeylxb3472 Жыл бұрын

I have 2005 crown vic with 140k miles and it hesitates to shift from 2nd to 3rd once I slow down back to the 2nd gear and accelerate again it neutrals out. So often times I have to slow down further to first gear and accelerate again for it to change to 2nd and then 3rd with no issues. I changed the control solenoid, the TCC solenoid, and I also checked the 1-2 accumulator springs just in case and they are all fine and I still have the issue. So I'm thinking its most likely the 2-3 accumulator spring that's broken. My question is how does the 2-3 accumulator cover hold the spring if it has no retainer clip. Also, from a complete stop the car accelerates through all the gears just fine. Its also a bit slow shifting from any gear to Drive. The car is a p71 but was never used for police work as it is a detective car, so I don't think it was driven hard to the point where the transmission has to be replaced. Another thing is when I pulled down the transmission pan the fluid was still fine but there was no magnet inside the pan where it should have been.

@GaryFerraro Жыл бұрын

The 2-3 accumulator cover is held in place by the valvebody, may want to check the 2-3 accumulator piston to make sure it is not debonding

@aeylxb3472 Жыл бұрын

@@GaryFerraro Cool, I'd have to check it out. Thanks for the reply.

@nicholaslong8570 Жыл бұрын

I have this transmission and am having a wacky problem. It doesn't shift from2nd to 3rd in norm drive. I turn the overdrive off and shifts perfectly fine. What are your thoughts?

@GaryFerraro Жыл бұрын

I would think you have a problem on the 3-4 shift not the 2-3 shift if it works ok with the o/d turned off, the o/d band is probably no good. Sorry for late response

@tim9430 9 ай бұрын

My 2004 Expedition seems to go into neutral when shifting into 3rd(?) gear around 25-30 mph. If I turn off the OD it doesn't do it, but by the time I get to 60 mph the engine rpms are way up and I obviously can't drive it that way. I pulled the valve body and the only problem I found was the 2-3 accumulator piston was broken in half and the separator plate looks like it might have some tiny hairline cracks starting where the accumulator hits it. Many of the valve body parts look new (to me... a novice) and I'm wondering if there's ever a chance that just fixing the valve body and accumulator could possibly fix this problem. I just bought this vehicle used so I don't know what's been done to it already. I'm a bit intimidated at the idea of getting into the transmission case. Anybody know the answer to that. Even the other accumulator pistons look okay, the rubber still flexible and not hard or brittle feeling. Am I wasting time/money to rebuild the valve body and replace accumulators w/o going into the transmission too?

@GaryFerraro 9 ай бұрын

well, very possible your direct clutch clutch or Overdrive band is no good

@tim9430 9 ай бұрын

@@GaryFerraro Yeah, I'm watching a bunch of complete overhauls on yt and they always seem to find a lot more than just what is in the valve body. I'm really hoping to be the exception...

@bengreed302 Жыл бұрын

Спасибо,что делитесь опытом👍🤝🇷🇺

@hunter103165 Жыл бұрын

Thank you

@wadepatton2433 Жыл бұрын

I'm digging for the temp sensor, under the car on gravel. Now I see how, but I'm going to have to work around the shifter stuff you yanked right out. I've got a solid 300F reading coming from the sensor (or a wiring fault) after a very slight impact. Maybe I don't break it.

@GaryFerraro Жыл бұрын

what year is the car?

@wadepatton2433 Жыл бұрын

OH, here's the answer: Rock Auto does not list the harness for any Crown Vic, but that the hard harness was used from 1998-2008. Oreilly's shows the right part at 2006, but not for 2007 or 2008. I don't have the right part and nobody in town that's open on Sunday does either. I'm done. ZIP it up and work on it next weekend. Ebay HAS the parts! Also it's part number: F8AZ7G276BA (from the internet. I'm going to make a pic before I slap the pan back on and go fishing.

@wadepatton2433 Жыл бұрын

@@GaryFerraro and thanks for the quick reply. My reply above was before I saw your response. I gotta get back to it. Have a good rest of your Sunday.

@GaryFerraro Жыл бұрын

@@wadepatton2433 So it's a hard wire harness, they are all the same, all years

@wadepatton2433 Жыл бұрын

@@GaryFerraro AND after determining that I had the wrong part and was going to have to pull the pan again later when the right parts gets here (it's on order), I refilled the tranny and went to warm it up to check the level of juice. The problem went away. I'm going with "She just needed her belly scratched". It's a wonderful thing to not have high-speed electric fan all the time! But also I'll have the part in case it returns. I wiggled all the connections and put in a new filter and some fresh oil, perhaps the accident jarred something loose and I got it back together. Success!

@mikehanlon9773 Жыл бұрын

Great video Gary How much would it cost to rebuild my 2003 4r70w has no reverse.Thanks

@GaryFerraro Жыл бұрын

Are you in the New York Area?

@derekkchung 5 ай бұрын

Gary, I have a 2011 Ford E350 with 4R75E tranny that slips in D when running at 30-40 mph. When I shift to 1 or 2, it drives fine. Can I get a 4R75E from an older E150 or even F150 like 2006-2008? Or better off staying with newer one with low mileage? In another word, a 4R75E is a 4R75E right?

@GaryFerraro 5 ай бұрын

2009 and up is what will fit only. 06-08 is wrong unit, may bolt up and look the same but the electronics are different

@derekkchung 5 ай бұрын

@@GaryFerraro Thanks. I wish u were in my area.

@derekkchung 5 ай бұрын

Gary, forgot to ask. It has to be for the E150, E250, E350 van. I cannot use one from F-150 or other models, right?

@derekkchung 3 ай бұрын

I ended up taking down the tranny and rebuilt it myself. I bought a full rebuild kit and while everything was apart, I ended up needing to replace the reverse drum and sun gear shell. It is all good now. Thanks to Gary's videos.

@rcgarage2045 Жыл бұрын

Hello Mr. Gary, I got a 2009 335i. I have a code 4f85- gear monitoring clutch e whenever the car is in operating temperature and sometime it overheat once in a while. I was think on doing tranny fluid and mechatronic sleeve. Any more issue you believe it can possible have?

@GaryFerraro Жыл бұрын

Hello. Sounds to me like a worn rear stator bushing. I don’t feel a fluid change will help you fix this issue

@d4rizob Жыл бұрын

What do you consider to be be a good tight clearance for forward and direct? .050-.060?

@GaryFerraro Жыл бұрын

yes, around .050 or you can use .010 per clutch

@aureliojuarezolaya5856 10 ай бұрын

Bien expricado mi maestro

@fhuber7507 11 ай бұрын

Sounds like exactly what is going on with my 2008 F-150, 6 cyl. 2WD. Zero 3rd. just spins the engine when it tries to shift from 2 to 3. Debating trying this myself or finding someone who would be as thourough as you in Texas.

@samhughes1938 11 ай бұрын

Have you tried running it with the OD off? My 06 expedition just started doing the same thing and i found it will shift into 3rd with the OD off.