Gas Ram vs Steel Coiled Spring

Displaying the Walther Parrus 22 and Diana 350 Magnum N-Tec Classic 22.
Why I like a steel coiled spring rather than a gas piston.

[@springpistonriflefeverlone9611]

Spoiler Alert: The RWS 350 N-Tec Classic smashed the Tasco scope my next outing.

[@TheWeaponizedHippie]

Spring for sure 👍

[@patrickbolthouse7354]

The worst scope eater out has got to be the Hatsan 125 TH. I put a Hammer scope on it and it got hammered. UTG is still going strong. In my opinion One eyed Joe ( Cyclops Videos Joe W Rhea) is the top dog on scopes. He don't like UTG but He agreed with me that they don't come any tougher . He likes Bushell AR models. I have read that Bushnell scopes will stand up to air rifles. As a final note, you folks looking to buy an air rifle for the kids, Hatsan Alpha. I have gave away 5 and have 1 myself.

[@springpistonriflefeverlone9611]

Not sure about Joe. Earlier he was bashing Leapers and recently he was talking about how great they were.

[@BackyardDispatcher]

I have shot enough to notice the difference to when it comes to cocking, Back in the day they bragged that you could leave a gas piston cocked and they wont wear out like a springer I say marking fluff , I hope you have a good day Chuck. Thanks for the upload

[@springpistonriflefeverlone9611]

Thank you 🙂👍

[@krislambert6625]

you actually can leave a gas ram compressed for a very very long time,they are designed to be that way..like the hatchback of your car usually stays shut and hoods on woodworking machinery are left shut sometimes for weeks where i work.

[@nicepojos8766]

Such a blessed Sunday, partly thanks to your dedication to our sport. Your 4th vid I'm watching in a row. Still lov'n it. God bless you.

[@springpistonriflefeverlone9611]

Super, that is great to hear. God bless you too 😀👍

[@kurthenze2900]

Wow, thanks for that vid! I asked you that question yesterday, and you answered me. And now a new vid! How cool! The industry seems to want to push us into the gas ram i think. Maybe they think the technology is what we want. Kinda like the car industry. When I'd be happy with basic 1960's. I favor the spring, I was thinking maybe I am a little weird and anti tech. It's nice to know I'm not alone in this topic. Thanks again!

[@springpistonriflefeverlone9611]

You are welcome 🙂👍

[@willytheekid]

...and so much more tuning options with a spring setup😉

[@springpistonriflefeverlone9611]

Yes 🙂👍

[@petegower2031]

Absolutely, but pop bottles and heavy tar is not tuning!

[@nickallen8333]

Gotta go with my spring pistons! They are my favorite kind of air gun. Very rewarding to master and very reliable.

[@springpistonriflefeverlone9611]

Me too Nick 🙂👍. Think the RWS 350 N-Tec Classic 22 has taken a nother victim scope yesterday. I have got to replace the gas ram or sell the rifle.

[@skullairguns5156]

Great comparaison my dear friend! Have a beautiful day 💀 👍

[@springpistonriflefeverlone9611]

Thank you so much 🙂👍

[@skullairguns5156]

@@springpistonriflefeverlone9611 You're welcome 💀👍

[@KathleenBeckinsale-qp1vo]

Good to see you again chuck nice video short and sweet but put the point over i thought i might be missing out and fancy adding a gasram to my collection but you help confirm what others try to say thanks alan

[@springpistonriflefeverlone9611]

Thank you Alan 🙂👍

[@lounaticlouie]

I have a tuned HW 90 with a 12", .20 barrel. I love it. It is tuned to 20fpe. I also own a number of spring guns, all are fantastic, especially after tuning. As for triggers, the TO6 is right behind the Rekord, if tuned properly. Two of the best triggers out there. I use PTFE for my piston sleeves. Anyhow, good video.

[@springpistonriflefeverlone9611]

I guess the T06 on the gas piston rifle is different than the old style?

[@tk1850]

fun fact , hatsan uses regular air, insted of pure nitrogen. who knows if they remove moisture from air in those pistons...

[@springpistonriflefeverlone9611]

Yes, I have heard that. I also have heard that Hatsan has a high failure rate with gas spring's.

[@LowkeyAirgunner]

This is an hard one for me ! I think id give the gas ram a slight advantage for the no twang feature BUT the parts are twice if not triple the price and reliability is not the same as a cheap coil spring. I am not sure to believe any of the claims that they make on the gas pistons but they usually allow for a different/ firmer hold which is easier to master for someone coming from firearms

[@springpistonriflefeverlone9611]

Actually, I have been doing better lately with a firmer hold and very light trigger pull with my springers lately.

[@LowkeyAirgunner]

@@springpistonriflefeverlone9611 *Consistency is the key!* _If you shoot badly but always do the same bad move/ jerk it the same way the pellets should land together anyways Haha_ There is no real magic hold you only got to find what is the most comfortable and repeable position for you with a specific rifle

[@springpistonriflefeverlone9611]

@@LowkeyAirgunner I still think hold makes a big difference. If I continually lose sight picture after I shoot, my group is more wild.

[@LowkeyAirgunner]

@@springpistonriflefeverlone9611 sure does! But if the rifle favorite hold is too hard to replicate for you consistently... a different hold might be performing better for you anyways at the end of the day! _if it works it works_

[@airgunnostalgia4210]

Great video, two gorgeous rifles! I have also found the T06 trigger on my 48 rather soft and not as crisp as the rekord... Been playing around with it a bit and it's definitely better, lighter pull weight than the rekord but not as predictable... Probably need to shoot more and get used to it.

[@springpistonriflefeverlone9611]

Thank you Anton. That Diana 48 is really nice 🙂👍

[@johnnybbgunner2136]

Good morning Chuck.🤠☕️

[@springpistonriflefeverlone9611]

Good morning Johnny 🌄

[@MrSilvervw]

Fantastic content 👌 👏 👍

[@springpistonriflefeverlone9611]

Thank you 😀👍

[@petegower2031]

Maybe not all

[@paultowns9880]

Great video Chuck with some interesting points. The last rifle i bought was a Theoben gas ram and it feels great so i guess i like spring and gas ram. I hope your strength training is going well. Take care.

[@springpistonriflefeverlone9611]

Thank you Paul. It's not that I hate the gas spring, but I like the steel coiled spring a little better. Lifting is going good. I'm getting back to my roots with high rep training. Think I'm building a little muscle 💪 too. I will plan on sharing some lifting soon 🙂👍. BTW I hope that all is well with you too.

[@paultowns9880]

@@springpistonriflefeverlone9611 Looking forward to your new training videos Chuck. They are a great inspiration. Thank you.

[@kenfan5666]

Hey Chuck, Great seeing you again. Hope you do a before and after conversion penetration and accuracy video. I learned a lot from some of your "how to" spring sleeve installation video. I think that the holding technique and the skill of the shooter are not the only factors that really matters, but the weight of the steel coil spring and violence of the double recoil would make a big difference. If you hold using a vice like strong tight grip, versus the artillery hold/slightly held/guided recoil hold. Maybe if you do slow motion profile shots of the gun being fired from padded table vice versus a gun stand/sled and pull the trigger using a string, you could show the difference in the recoil of the steel coil versus the gas ram recoil, and it would be more obvious to the viewer. Stay Safe. Be Well. GOD BLESS.

[@springpistonriflefeverlone9611]

Thank you for the suggestion Ken.🙂👍 I don't think that a camera will capture the effects of what the recoil has on a scope or the shooter. I don't have a shooting sled either. I see no need for a shooting sled, especially since it will not help a person in the field.

[@airgunspestingch.8426]

👋🏾sup brAh! Spring for me braddah👊🏾😎

[@springpistonriflefeverlone9611]

Oh yeah 😎👍

[@TCJKUKI]

I love Springer than gas ram.

[@springpistonriflefeverlone9611]

Me too 😃👍

[@TCJKUKI]

@@springpistonriflefeverlone9611 ❤️😂 m from India sir

[@bobdefiglio2.045]

Like the t-shirt. 😉

[@springpistonriflefeverlone9611]

Thank you. I listened to LT on Rumble 🙂👍

[@bobdefiglio2.045]

@@springpistonriflefeverlone9611 me too

[@Relaxbadkneeadventures]

Why don’t you use recoil mounts then?

[@springpistonriflefeverlone9611]

I have heard mixed reviews of them.

[@Relaxbadkneeadventures]

@@springpistonriflefeverlone9611 i have on my hatsan 65 the expensive diana recoil mount 11mm (60 euro) and on my other 2 i have the mizugiwa ones 11mm and a 22mm one (17€)

[@JohnVentarino-ey5ln]

What's the best scope you have for all your airguns.

[@springpistonriflefeverlone9611]

Either the Hawke Airmax 3-9×40ao or Leapers 3-9×40ao. Personally I like the Leapers better for hunting.

[@JohnVentarino-ey5ln]

@@springpistonriflefeverlone9611 thanks buddy for answering .

[@Laoveyn]

Hey, buddy, do you think a spring or a gas piston is better? :)

[@springpistonriflefeverlone9611]

I like the steel coiled spring better, especially if the spring guide is tight.

[@Laoveyn]

@@springpistonriflefeverlone9611 thank you for answer :)

[@nobs8124]

The gas ram will need more maintenance?

[@amitmukherjee1065]

Gas rams are zero maintenance

[@springpistonriflefeverlone9611]

Only if they break. But along the way they will break plenty of scope's.

[@Chief_Handler_is_better_than_U]

What am I missing? Recoil, super-hard kicking, breaking scopes? These are pellet rifles. What?

[@springpistonriflefeverlone9611]

Yes, pellet rifles with an extreme reverse recoil that eat scopes like candy.🍭🍬

[@FirstStateAirgun]

I am 1 for 1 with scopes. 1 springer and 1 Ram got eeem

[@springpistonriflefeverlone9611]

I have lost 4 or 5 now, ouch, lol.