Gaslamp businesses sue San Diego over sidewalk vending enforcement

[@BuhodePiedra]

Other basic laws not being enforced: public bathroom usage, camping, fires, public drug usage etc etc.

[@thomasgentry6201]

BUMS the new San Diego County Norm allowed to Break Laws at will!

[@estradasp]

But they enforce the hell out of mandatory but unnecessary street sweeping and parking zones cuz it's easy money for them

[@BuhodePiedra]

@@estradasp indeed that’s true. Because the government thinks that even though all of its employees are being paid by our tax dollars to provide services, they are tasked with making a profit.. because we are living in late stage capitalism unhinged. Brave new world.

[@stevenledbetter80]

Public bathroom usage?? Lmao 🤣

[@BuhodePiedra]

@@stevenledbetter80 it’s funny until it concentrates so much in one area that you can’t really breathe as you’re walking by. Plus, we do have laws and codes around sewers and hygiene that are completely ignored here. Super funny I know. Pp pupu grow up it’s an issue 🤌🤌

[@theotheleo6830]

Illegal vendors did the same at the Santa Monica Pier and the surrounding area. They'd leave huge messes by dumping their grease and garbage on the ground for city crews to clean up. No matter how many times they were instructed to leave they kept coming back. Many interactions between the illegals and the cops were captured on video and their attitudes of defiance, contempt, and entitlement were on full display. Santa Monica had to fence off all but one entrance to the pier and hire private security to guard the remaining entrance but that didn't stop them because the guards weren't allowed to physically prevent them from entering. So, the city had to create a special task force which consisted of police, firemen, code enforcement, and county health inspectors to routinely patrol the area. After a couple of months of citations, seizures, and even towing away a couple of the vendors' trucks, the illegal vendors finally gave up and left. However, the cost of this effort was in the millions.

[@thefourhorsemen91]

Because LA and Kalifornia really don't care. That's the truth.

[@theotheleo6830]

@@thefourhorsemen91 Santa Monica is in California.

[@thefourhorsemen91]

@@theotheleo6830 It's Kalifornia. It's not california. The leftists have turned it into a socialists' utopian wet dream. So the "K" is very appropriate.

[@DSplatter]

Santa Monica is beat now. I remember the first time going there in 2014 or 15 and then I went there last year ago and there was trash everywhere, it smelled like shit and weed and it just didn’t feel pleasant anymore.

[@philvie]

The city of Santa Monica put a stop to all street vending on the pier and beaches, it took a while but the venders finally gave up when their carts were confiscated, all it takes is commitment

[@joshuacampos421]

Go away karen

[@David-xy5sd]

Go away economic migrant​@@joshuacampos421

[@mwatercress]

Commitment AND consequences, taking the carts they understand.

[@kungfupanda1705]

No rent or lease payments, no insurance or "pesky" health inspections - absolutely no protection for the customer and nothing of value put into communities. Seems like a win for the non legitimate vendor only. Make the fine/penalties as much as it would cost to open and run a restaurant for a year -

[@Super_Flea]

No tax

[@mwatercress]

Impound their equipment. Let them bail it out for 50% of its value the first time, 75% the second time and scrap it the third time. And issue a citation each time.

[@davidvarela5822]

Majority of people with street food, they are hardworking people in other side Legit Business Owners have to pay high taxes, High rents, but all this melt down is happening with the soar of the inflation, if California people keep voting Democrat people will be getting the same year after year , just chaos and financial losses 😢

[@Craigtcs]

It’s time to investigate WHY the police are not enforcing the no vending zone. I am pretty they were given written orders from the mayor’s office telling them that the street vendors are off limits. You get what you vote for.

[@thomasgentry6201]

Mayors Office? Hey wake up the Mayor TODD is the one responsible for the Soft on Crime Liberal , Woke, Demorat Policies!

[@roccosautotech]

Everybody Set up a sidewalk cart in front of your own restaurant every night, encourage customers to go inside your place next time they stop by, If the city sites you sue them to death. Selective prosecution. Fire the Mayor and then work your way through city council.

[@deeferguson9272]

Excellent idea 👍👍👍👍

[@CjE-d4s]

I saw that episode of Bobs Burgers too.

[@jrgv1566]

Make better food let it speak for it self !

[@mwatercress]

One set of vendors are having to deal with ADA lawsuits, Prop 65, PAGA, sewer fees, grease trap regulations, providing restrooms for their customers, paying traffic and parking impact fees.....They can compete with better food but they can't make it cheaper than a competitors who don't have to play by the same rules, without rent or regulations to contend with.

[@jessgarc-sd6oh]

Why don't you just take their carts away.

[@deeferguson9272]

That’s what they do in China

[@DLurch]

Cali gov not enforcing laws I’m so shocked 🙄

[@thomasgentry6201]

Happening for Over a Decade and every time the Local News is surprised by policies they support along with Todd Gloria and Greasy Newsom!

[@mwatercress]

California enforces laws on the law-abiding citizens who aren't judgement proof. Scofflaws not so much, vagrant scofflaws not at all.

[@Surferdude965]

They are everywhere in SD county! Even outside of Target! Don’t forget about the fruit and flower stands on most street corners now. Tijuana street vendors are envious

[@kingpickle3712]

They shut down people doing yoga on the beach though.

[@thumperjdm]

This is what happens when D.A.'s will no longer prosecute anything.

[@thomasgentry6201]

Todd Gloria, Greasy Newsom and yes the DA are all Left WIng, Soft on Crime Nuts!

[@samuelg3586]

Keep voting blue

[@Nostalgiasitcoms]

So you don’t support voluntary capitalism? Commie

[@Greenskies321]

It’s not the dems fault police don’t do their jobs dip 💩

[@tl1533]

Stop being ignorant

[@socaljarhead7670]

Ignorant? That the straight truth. Only one side if the political spectrum allows this nonsense.

[@MH_6160]

@@tl1533 Stop being a simp for lawlessness and the indigent.

[@mr.fantasticbaby1831]

The hot dog can cost 10 dollar or more that need to be cheaper since Most of the food vendors don’t even pay taxes . Money goes to other countries to support their family or buy cheap property when they retired . I don’t mind they do their business just do the right ways pay taxes , get permit, help community like donate homeless and get business insurance in case customer get sick etc . Ofc clean water !

[@2choosewisely2]

good that there are laws so you can hold the city accountable for destroying or ruining your business by not adhering to enforcement of regulations. this is why it is important to vote and to vote good folks into office you can't just plow over the citizens and act like it's not your business to protect their companies their incomes and their livelihoods

[@SirGriefALot]

They should sue the city over the bums and violent crime.

[@thomasgentry6201]

FACT and Greasy Newsom in Sacramento!

[@ceceliamoreno1845]

Good. About time!!

[@LoveGodOutloud]

People eat from those??? That's just traveling trash. Nothing clean

[@OrlaSanDiego]

We need Pete Wilson for Mayor and clean out our City Council who supports these people over the legitimate businesses.

[@thomasgentry6201]

Voters are Delusional, Woke, Demorats most educated at Local Liberal Colleges?

[@supercia1]

Maybe does business food prices are to expensive maybe they should lower the prices.

[@NEVERHAVEHIGHEXPECTATIONS]

As long as these businesses stick together and keep the pressure on the city they can force their hand. Mayor Flood is running again and this is not good publicity

[@JoeyRiz]

It’s messed up but the only way to deal with the street venders is to have people tip over the carts. That will force the police to do something.

[@Napoleon-xp3sm]

This is the way.

[@dennydude]

No way, the whole street would have the vendors back. Then you just have a hospitalized Karen and no witnesses. Not very smart.

[@JoeyRiz]

@@dennydude I said "have people" not saying Karens should do it lol. Your business is losing money because of an illegal business running just outside. Cops won’t do anything. Hey look I found the guy that has no spine lolol.

[@dennydude]

@@JoeyRiz lol where did that last line come from? But you are really thinking a hot dog stand is putting a 4 star restaurant out of business? People seeing dirt and hair in those dogs and still thinking, better than the restaurant. Capitalism is crazy hu?

[@JoeyRiz]

@@dennydude the last line came from the fact that you must enjoy being walked on. You proved it again by advocating for criminals. Yes the venders here are braking the law. The law exists to stop these people from taking away revenue from tax paying businesses.

[@yessicagonzalez5723]

No one steals your business, if someone wants to buy other food they will regardless.

[@Dezil]

They pay no taxes and don’t follow the sanitation restrictions required to sell food making it unfair to businesses that follow the rules

[@thefourhorsemen91]

Its been going on for 9 months. The city doesn't care. Get used to it. They will take alllll your tax monies but they will not help you at all.

[@octavius9685]

I support ANYONE willing to go out on the streets and hustle for their money. That shit ain't easy and ill always respect any man or woman willing to grind.

[@deeferguson9272]

I support businesses who pay rent & employ people, not scam artists who overcharge & work around the law

[@10MM-MAGAMAN-420]

All they do is stand all day big whoop

[@10MM-MAGAMAN-420]

​@@deeferguson9272do they even wash their hands I wonder ?

[@truthiscensored]

In business, people buy what they want, need, desire and that fit their budget. Can't get mad at the consumer for spending their money with your competitors. Research your target market, see what they want and Figure out a plan to get customers. Serving a brunch of high price food when all the consumer want is a hot dog....Got to do better research Can't make people buy what they don't want With all that said the vendor should at least respect the businesses and the zones for non-vendors

[@dennydude]

True. All true. I'm guessing the restaurant can't do that because their rent is so high, that luxury food is the only way they can pay. (On paper)

[@mwatercress]

How many ADA bathrooms are the vendors supplying for their customers? One set of businesses are being allowed to operate in DeFacto libertarian regulatory environment and the others are in the People's Republic of California where are businesses are assumed to be guilty and evil.

[@tankyouverymuch1726]

They can enforce a yoga ban on the beach they can stop this

[@omarvaquero4672]

They come back.

[@davidvarela5822]

Majority of people with street food, they are hardworking people in other side Legit Business Owners have to pay high taxes, High rents, but all this melt down is happening with the soar of the inflation, if California people keep voting Democrat people will be getting the same year after year , just chaos and financial losses 😢

[@truth815]

Gaslamp district used to be so beautiful ... Now it looks like a third world country outside ! I feel bad for the businesses.

[@merlinawakend]

it's wild, the city wont crack down on this, but puts art. street performers, and expressive activities in little 4 x 8 foot boxes...

[@nicholaspetre1]

It is such a mess going on in San Diego. Authorities basically do nothing to make this city better.

[@TravisDoesKayakFishing]

How is any different than a restruarant moving in next door. Never once have been going to a sit down place and said oh look dear, let's go eat from that van instead.

[@dennydude]

Because the vendors don't have to use 60% of their earnings to pay taxes. I could be low balling that too.

[@metroman8185]

Illegal Alien venders can do business anywhere!!

[@officialtoastyy]

A $10 steer dog is threatening your business? Maybe sell food that’s actually edible and not priced at $30+

[@AlexGarcia-zn2oo]

another blunder from the mayor look at santa monica

[@thomasgentry6201]

No Criticism of Todd Checks too many Liberal, Woke, Demorat Boxes!

[@bombaybeach208]

And which laws do they actually enforce at all?

[@thomasgentry6201]

Very Few! Soft on Crime Democrat policies!

[@thomasgentry6201]

My Favorite Gyros spot in Gaslamp and now selling Tacos? Shame Tacos El Gordo a few Ft away over priced? Doners was a Terrific restaurant and Food great , Large potions and Nice employees! Well Alexs Gyros in Hillcrest very Good and Value. Bums have taken over Gaslamp anyway!

[@jordansiqueido2101]

THE SOLUTION IS SO SIMPLE. SD NEEDS "STREET VENDOR YOGA" GROUPS WILL BE BANNED WITH VENDORS SERVING PICNICS ON THE BAY

[@mikester6192]

Stop jacking up the restaurant food prices. The people should sue the restaurants.

[@shawnda8069]

You really are stupid aren’t you! Inflation is real you dumbass.

[@shawnda8069]

What’s it like for you being the dumbest person to comment here? Inflation is a real thing.

[@shawnda8069]

You’re not so bright are you?

[@voiceofraisin241]

Unemployment insurance, rent, business insurance among other expenses not incurred by a street vendor, all add to the price of finished goods. That is why it costs more inside. Doesn’t take a genius to figure that out.

[@Cmon-Man]

You haven’t a clue how commerce, industry, retail actually works do you? Everyone gather around, this leader of industry is going to sue all the restaurants. 👍

[@48laws45]

See how business wants to pit employees aginst each other to 'compete' for our wages but they start crying woes of indignation about the businesses having to compete with other businesses..hypocrisy is thy name

[@Numba1hunna83]

These aren't real businesses.

[@dennydude]

Yup, capitalism doesn't care about laws. Can't use child labor in America? Not a problem, we can outsource that.

[@lovelove-er9lq]

Artery clogging food not healthy any way . Hot Dogs.Getting away with selling on healthy foods an taking business away from the Gaslamp Businesses

[@Ronald-hk6fk]

Good!

[@michaelspellman6264]

I love me a good glizzy, but these downtown businesses have so much stacked against them these days. I don't think it's fair to call people Karens for recognizing that. The yoga thing, however, is a bullshit interpretation of the ordinance.

[@Krixsix]

lol if a restaurant is losing to a hot dog stand theres gotta be something wrong with the restaurant

[@dpharr100]

Maybe they can set up a hot dog stand in your front yard

[@dennydude]

Yup, the outrageous property tax is making the restaurant pass that to their customers. Ask the stores what their biggest expense is, it isn't going to be labor or supplies.

[@Krixsix]

@@dpharr100 are u dumb or just clueless?? they operate on public property. cry more

[@Krixsix]

@@dennydude sounds like politician steals business tax money while increasing tax to hide the theft and "represent the peoples tax money" the system makes us fight each other while they take from us.

[@dannyn.3539]

Yeah, the restaurant got rent, workers, taxes to pay. That is what’s wrong with the restaurant.

[@abefroman4953]

You get mayhem when you vote for mayhem.

[@jordansiqueido2101]

OTHER WAYS SD CAN FIGHT CRIME. "SMASH AND GRAB YOGA", "PORCH PIRATE YOGA", OR "HOME INVASION YOGA"

[@mikester6192]

$15 for a hot dog or $5 dogs

[@jonnyfendi2003]

$2,000 hospital ER bill when that damn worker making your unregulated hot dogs haven’t washed their damn hands for the entire day

[@Cmon-Man]

TJ isn’t far, go there

[@Napoleon-xp3sm]

Street vendors are asking 10 dollar for a hot dog.

[@omarvaquero4672]

I'd seen vendors smoking cigarettes and then handling food or while they're selling food. Even in tijuas, they do that.

[@Napoleon-xp3sm]

@@omarvaquero4672 I've seen the typical obese "fruitas" vendors scratch/pick their wedgie of the leggings while preparing the drink. I'm even afraid to eat at most tacquieras now as the cooks are mostly illegal aliens who don't care about food safety.

[@jerrywilliams9208]

Scared of a little competition forcing you to have competitive prices they only go to Street vendors cuz they're cheaper everyone has a right to make a living why would anybody go to a restaurant serving hot dogs they don't want to pay for your building they just a hot dog

[@mwatercress]

They have a whole row of competition playing by the same rules. And then they the sidewalk in front of their businesses not following ANY of them. ADA bathroom? Prop 65 compliance? Traffic and parking impact fees? ....Competition is great but for it to be fair, they should be playing by the same rules.

[@TheUsername217]

Bro, that’s gross. Who buys street dogs? Lmao

[@phillipgonzlez8635]

And we have the highest tax’s…

[@NajkiiThomas]

Interesting news! Najkii Vershawn Thomas United States Navy RET

[@karinaarredondo1329]

Well vendors are better lol the food is better and cheaper 🎉

[@waterbaby7808]

The street vendors are not taking away customers from the restaurants. The prices of the items in the restaurants are pushing customers away.

[@tl1533]

Yes they are. These restaurant owners have to pay a lot of fees, taxes,, & follow health department with food safety rules & regulations. What these street vendors do? They hijacked the customers without being penalized for failing to follow the city ordinanances.

[@dennydude]

Yup, customers would rather risk food poisoning than take out a bank loan for a hot dog.

[@albertramirez797]

Hilarious don't lose more business

[@Thebay49]

Keep voting democrat

[@jmseipp]

Excuse me! There’s no H in the word STREET! Please stop mispronouncing the word!

[@dennydude]

The root of the problem? Restaurant rent is so high that they can't be profitable. But illegal small business that have no government regulations/ taxes are thriving. Is that not capitalism? It sucks that playing by the rules means you are going to lose.

[@michaelcherniss166]

Forgive me if I misunderstood your comment. But... Obviously there are many profitable restaurants and committing crimes is not how capitalism works. You absolutely can and should "play by the rules." It definitely doesn't mean "you are going to lose" if you do. You sound frustrated about this, I'm 100% with you on that!

[@dennydude]

@@michaelcherniss166 I think I see the disconnect, yes there are profitable restaurants but there are not a lot in the gas lamp district. In that specific area where taxes are too high, there are more empty stores than active businesses and that trend is getting worse. I'm championing the ancient Republican idea of "don't tax a business to death". Long story short, just because it's a law, doesn't mean it's right. Aka Jim Crow law.

[@2breal91]

Also let’s raise taxes on everyone else while these vendors pay no taxes so we can give the operators of the tax free carts more public assistance since they don’t have a job on the books. We live in crazy world these days.

[@CrabFiles]

California clown town :P

[@FatLu-zu2fb]

😮

[@bobcratchet3736]

No justice, No peace or prosperity.

[@danieldavid9887]

Those street dogs do slap though 😫😋

[@Ronald-hk6fk]

Melt in your mouth seeing how they use the cheapest dogs 8 for $1

[@Joshuaganter]

I will stop going to any business that doesn't support the sidewalk dog. Those are the most exceptional glizzies imaginable. I am willing to fight for this cause until I die. I stand with street hotdogs!!!!!!

[@joshuacampos421]

A bunch of karens in these comments. If theyre stealing your business its because your overpriced and overrated. Get over it. Dont hate the player hate the game.

[@Mr.Happy7ODSubscribe]

What happened to free market capitalism? Can't handle competition go to your mother's basement. Capitalism is ruthless I repeat Ruthless. Money doesn't sleep

[@deeferguson9272]

If the restaurant owner has to pay rent to be there, why should an illegal vendor not pay rent for the sidewalk ? The government cannot play favorites. ( Cough cough Newsom Panera Bread )

[@dennydude]

​@@deeferguson9272crime does pay. Look at our senators.