Gauge needle removal for BMW speedometer LCD display pixel fix

[@tempest411]

This video is missing a few important details. On the gauges that have the needle resting against small 'posts', that is not to be considered the 'neutral' position of the needle. You need to carefully lift the end of the needle over the post and then slowly settle in it's true neutral position. You then carefully mark that point just away from the needle's tip in a place that won't be visible once it's together. Regarding pulling the needles, the tutorial I saw stated that it's important to take them off in a twisting motion, with the shaft held by some very small pliers. You need to not only keep the shaft from being pulled out of the motor, but also keep it from spinning so you can twist while you pull the needle off. I didn't have anything small enough to do this, so I was forced to go the melt & drill holes from the front to gain access to the screws that hold the display on. I'm currently waiting for the required T8 driver to re-fasten those screws. I got them out with the T9 I had, but no way am I dealing with trying to use the wrong size to put it together. As a side note, it's amazing how little stores have, even in a large metropolitan area like the S.F. Bay Area. I couldn't find any pliers like the guy in the video I watched use, nor did anyone have a T8 driver (can not use hex-drive bits). Amazon will have like twenty different kinds, but the local stores, NOTHING! No wonder retail is dying...

[@idokwatcher2062]

How do we put them back without messing up the calibration? Plug them in exact position they were, or, gently push them down while spinning counter clockwise and somehow resetting the stepper motor?

[@bakkeralmasri9849]

I needed this video last year. I ruined 4 motors, and I had to replace them.

[@A.tsougklinis]

I have the same problem.How did you replaced the motors and how much did they cost ?

[@MarexKai]

Great video, such a calming voice.

[@hedonisthobbyist707]

Can you show a close up of the needle grab tool? It appeared as though you were intent on preventing viewers from seeing it... ///M... Where is it available?

[@Csiboreszkudo]

Of course, but a bit later, as patent is still pending.

[@airwarrior3764]

Just did this repair. Problem with one needle (gas). Placed tool correctly, however would not release the needle. Spindle / post started coming out (tool held the gold collet attached to the spring). Had I kept pulling, post would have come out, but not the spring. Not sure if this gauge is going to work. Drilling out would be difficult. My panel has thick piece of clear plastic on top of the white plastic, and drilling would compromise the clear plastic keeper holding black overlay down. I'll work on getting pictures if you want. Other than this, its gone very easily and would not have taken long at all to fix..... The directions you send with it have great great pictures and explanations... (except for the very last part, attaching ribbon to board with lcd already attached to ribbon)... and there's a video in here for that... so should be good to go piecing it all together and with the mixed situation my particular panel presented. Your kit was super great, had everything in it.. and I'll let ya know how it comes out when totally finished.... Thanks for great save!!

[@pixelfixbalazs]

Thanks for your feedback! :)

[@3rdHalf1]

I have a stupid question: When gauge needle is removed, isn't the spring unwinding the shaft? What about placing back the needle? Is there any specific tension, for the spring, to ensure proper functioning?

[@Csiboreszkudo]

Nithing special to do. You just put the needle back to in the right position, so the needle stops at zero. Just make sure you have a gap between the face and the needle, otherwise the needle will not move, so the gauge will not work.

[@ied3vil]

@@Csiboreszkudo i believe he is right though, i managed to fabricate a tool to do the removal but the putting the needles back in was a pain in the behind... i wound them up myself, but too little and the needles are jittery, too much and maybe they don't rise? managed to get it right after like 3rd try.

[@airwarrior3764]

I have your tool and it does hold. However, it seems like over time these needles "bake on" to the spindle and are very difficult to remove. I've actually bent the tool considerably in the course of trying to remove the needle..... It holds, though literally bends as you try to remove the needle. Because all the needles are almost like 'welded' to the spindle, I'm concerned about bending that spindle (that goes into the motor), trying to remove any of the needles. I'm wondering if sitting in the sun as time goes on, tends to lock them in tighter? BTW I was able to remove all needles but one on the first cluster, this second one is a totally different story (there's about 200K miles more on the cluster). For what its worth, your provided tool might need to be a little more robust as these cars continue to age and their needles lock in more over time. (PS your instructions about drilling versus needle removal are excellent! I had to go that route because of the one needle that didn't come off and hit all 4 dead on, first time).

[@autowbar]

hi can you tell me where to get the tool or what part you have to order to get the tool or is there a link great video

[@vwpassat2507]

Hello, where can you dig out this tool for the needle, the plastic at the front and the holder at the back

[@lubuck3023]

GM, thanks for the info. Do you know where I can buy needles for a 1984 BMW, 633CSI? Thanks

[@waltercastro95]

Can you please send me a picture of the tool? I don't have to repair the display, I want to take it apart to replace the LEDs. Thank you

[@jinkly]

Hello, I'm just using your kit and the needle comes out with the shaft even using the removal tool. The spring is OK. It seems the needle is stack with the shaft. Any tips? Thanks

[@adrianbadea8746]

Can you upload a video on how to replace the motors please ?!? Thank you !

[@emmanuelkeyounya4027]

I have the same cas

[@gearoftones8585]

Where do you get the tools to remove the needles?

[@malcalamark5]

Is this needle removal the same for the 2003 Range Rover L322? This was the time that BMW owned Land Rover and there are many BMW parts throughout the vehicle.

[@Csiboreszkudo]

Yes it is. Basically E38, E39, X5 and M5 BMW, and L322 Range Rover all use the same hardware with minor modifications. The same tool fits all.

[@Csiboreszkudo]

Yes it is

[@MrTallatron]

I tried that with the exact same tool, shaft still came out, needle was stuck solid to the shaft, even after the shaft came out it was near impossible to get the needle off of the shaft.

[@dadembira]

me too

[@marius3666]

Hello, thank you for the informal video. I have few questions: How do you put on the needles back and position them to 0 position? And the second question would be how could I remove the needles on bmw e91 EU gauge? I assume there's different construction of the gauge and the motors, and some videos on youtube shows that you just simply can remove them like you removed consumption needle. Hoping you will see this comment and help me out, thanks in advance and good luck with upcoming videos!

[@pixelfixbalazs]

Hi, this is the best way to put the needles back: set the big gauges to zero: kzbin.info/www/bejne/naXPqoWMbMZ-abM set the small gauges to zero: kzbin.info/www/bejne/e3KUfnp8irameJI I am afraid I do not know E91 speedometers, sorry. Balazs

[@BimmerFix]

Whats the name of the tool? Any links where it can be purchased?

[@cespaillat11]

My E39 instrument panel ABS and ASC lightd do not work, is this a panel problem or should I look other components first?

[@victormercedes2667]

Cuando quitaste la aguja del rpm lo dañaste, eso mismo me paso a mi con el de la temperatura

[@omrie83]

We're can buy this tools

[@kevinsampson7401]

Thank you for posting this! Is there a video in this series that shows the removal of the old LCD/Ribbon prep for the new one?

[@Csiboreszkudo]

There is no such video, but it is rather simple. You just peel the old one off, and clean the residuals off with acetone and qtips. You need to make sure the pads are 100% clean, otherwise the connection between the silver ribbon cable and the panel will not be good enough. I hope it helps.

[@ANDYW031084]

Where to get the tools sir ?

[@ivailo1993]

Hi Csiboreszkudo can you make a video how to make this tool becouse i use nose pliers and its a little dangerous for the circuit board.

[@Csiboreszkudo]

Hi, this tool comes free with the cable so no need to make this.

[@Csiboreszkudo]

Not really, but the good news is that it comes free together with the silver ribbon cable kit, just like the torx screwdriver.

[@jokerjok9866]

where you buy this gauge needle grab?

[@technik333]

are you able to do a video on how to replace the stepper motors?

[@yoyo-rd5xj]

How do I take the black back body of speedo off

[@adrianbadea8746]

Hi Csiboreszkudo. I have damaged 2 of the motors and i would like to change them. i have a another speedometer cluster from where i can get 2 mototrs swapped . can you fix it? how do i get in touch with you !

[@Csiboreszkudo]

Hello Adrian, I guess you wanted to repair the faulty pixels of your LCD display. No worries, it can be replaced, if you have a second hand unit you may simply remove the motors. You may contact me on www.pixelfix.net/eng [e-mail]

[@astroboyyo612]

very good video mate thanks

[@pixelfixbalazs]

Thank you!

[@Csiboreszkudo]

You are welcome. I hope it helps you to remove the needles safely and fix your BMW speedo LCD.

[@bartoszkotowski8281]

Can you please tell me where to get this tool from? Thanks

[@pixelfixbalazs]

Hi, you can order the kit with ribbon cable or LCD display + ribbon cable combo.

[@Adrian_The_Great]

does this apply for the e34 gauges aswell or is it just e39 gauges?

[@Csiboreszkudo]

No, E34 is completely different!

[@Thr4sh4lot]

i did exactly same as you did in the video but now the gauges wont work probably. i had 50L left on my gastank but now it shows only 15 and the speedometer show less aswell. is there a way to fix this or do i have to replace the motors?

[@Csiboreszkudo]

Didi you use the grab tools? If not, then you will damage the motors, and need to replace them. It is available here: www.diyspareparts.net/gauge_motors_gears.html the one in the bottom

[@meassokha]

Csiboreszkudo where can I get the grab tool? The video doesn't show clearly about the grab tool

[@byronmontes3746]

Do the gauge needle remover tools come with this kit?

[@Csiboreszkudo]

Yes the gauge needle grab tool and the torx screwdriver are also included in the repair kit!

[@berkeleydojah]

where do you get those tools from? i just bought your pixel kit. does it come with that blue tool?

[@pixelfixbalazs]

+omar k Hi, yes, you will get the tool in the package!

[@berkeleydojah]

should i also replace those 5 bulbs?

[@pixelfixbalazs]

Well some cases the bulbs go out too, that case yes, but it is not always neccessary.

[@AlexAnder-zs5ht]

It's possible to buy only the tools?

[@pixelfixbalazs]

Hi! The tools are available only together with the cable or the display.

[@ardalanshabestari3437]

does this tool come with the silver wire thing?

[@Csiboreszkudo]

Yes it does. Silver ribbon cable with or withour LCD, as you wish.

[@emmanuelkeyounya4027]

Please how too remplace the motor

[@anthonyphan5194]

0:34 hi I would like to know what you said I can't hear you clearly because of your accent no offense I just want to know what you said please respond back if you can thank you

[@Youtzushka]

"you killed your motor"

[@ГеоргиНичев]

you are genious

[@6767den]

Thank you very much!!!Best info!!!

[@anthonyphan5194]

0:31

[@johnjohnson6032]

Da!

[@rodd33]

I sent you an email