GAUGE THE ISSUE: There May Be Regulations!

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[@Terrier55Stepney]

For a long-term project I've been developing, this insight was exactly what I needed. Cheers Chris And-I'm-Here-To-Gauge-The-Issue.

[@FlyinBlaney]

Hi Chris-And-I'm-Here-To-Gauge-The-Issue, I'm dad!

[@Napicsonic]

NANI Stepney

[@icklebean0365]

I was a lad of the early 2000s but still watched Ivor and old thomas, educated me well I think

[@FlyinBlaney]

Me too!

[@thetiredscot7821]

Me three

[@tardis5179]

I Was Born In 2008 And I Have Watched Ivor And Thomas For 7 Years!

[@LunaIsOnYoutube]

Me too! I have Many of the old Thomas on DVD I still watch it sometimes lmao

[@ijmr2005]

Same here. I was born in 2005 but thanks for Ivor and Thomas im a proper railway entusiast. And I still also like Ivor and Thomas.

[@AnimatedIsaac]

I adored Ivor when I was younger. Was really glad to rediscover it earlier this year! Excellent editorial as always Chris.

[@AnimatedIsaac]

@Michael Barnett Read the pinned comment from my Thom video.

[@AnimatedIsaac]

Michael Barnett I’d much rather talk about this on my channel and not clog Chris’ comments if that’s ok, but- 1-No, because that’s expensive 2- No, because I have a job now and KZbin cannot take priority. 1- I’m not an expert, just a generic version of Thomas. 2- Well then, there you are.

[@AnimatedIsaac]

Michael Barnett so why did you ask?

[@FlyingScott]

"... Unless you lose focus and go ridiculously over budget," *Lone Ranger* "... Or lose the point entirely." *Dumbo* Damnit Chris, stuff like this is why I love your work.

[@TotoDG]

Pshh-t-koo. Doesn’t that bring back memories.

[@exveefan]

I didn't even know there was going to be an Ivor the Engine Movie. (At one point I had thought about making a Fake trailer to go with my Thomas and Casey Jr ones)

[@ivanthevaluable2559]

Maybe, AusRail can make a CGI IVOR THE ENGINE Trailer, along with more episodes of Rolling Stock.

[@OwenConcorde]

I've heard of Ivor since I came across the show on KZbin years ago even though I'm from America which is mostly dominated by the Thomas franchise. I do think the Ivor film is going to come out as a response to not just Paddington Bear, but also the recent film adaptation of the German kids train novel, "Jim Button and Luke the Engine Driver" (2018) which featured a small steam locomotive named "Emma".

[@michaelwelsh1899]

I have somehow ended up with three copies of the complete series of Ivor the Engine on VHS which provided wonderful relief from exam stress during my A-Levels last year.

[@railduskchaser2617]

Brilliant stuff. Loved Ivor the Engine. The only fault I could ever find with it was that Ivor was not a nice little Quarry Hunslet - or perhaps a Penrhyn MainLine type, ha ha :) Excellent editorial on it, hopefully it will spark some more memories.

[@pollygardiner5669]

'Do you know Land of my fathers?'

[@CharlotteWilliamsBuzz]

As a Welsh girl I’d kind of be up for a live action Ivor.

[@TheCreepersGood]

It sadly looks nothing like Ivor at all, it’s being filmed on the Snowdon Mountain Railway.

[@bluefoxy6478]

@@TheCreepersGood didn't they get ivor right in his engine styling? TBH, i don't know what kind of locomotive hes based on besides a 0-4-0 with a short wheel base.

[@TheCreepersGood]

Blue Foxy eh, but it kind of looks off. The fact that he’s a mountain engine in the movie doesn’t really suit the fact that he’s kind of a branch line engine. Check out the other irl version of him, that’s more like him!

[@RockyRailroadProductions_B0SS]

Ahh yes! Ivor has been one of my biggest inspirations for animation, Postgate made some wonderful series.

[@railfan475productions3]

4:31, at the bottom of the screen is a budgie railway engine toy

[@shirokumaotaku]

Thanks ^^ I always wanted to know about the Train I was hoping if Bagpuss would ever do anything with it but of course he never did

[@TankEngine75]

Yeah I was gonna comment that

[@DarkAAB9]

Back before I first joined youtube this was a series I came across and was hooked I remember the movie announcement! Seems it's still happening with Eddie Izzard and Cerys Matthews involved

[@julyleonard]

One thing about Ivor the engine, he's now the #8 engine of The Fantasyland & Fairytale railway traction company limited!

[@josephbroom829]

I only started watch a few of these episodes on KZbin and I have fallen in love with Ivor the Engine. Like you said, there’s just so much charm to it and I just want to live in a place like that. Thanks for sharing Chris!

[@gordonburns8731]

I remember watching the first episode in 1959... I was 7.

[@22Tesla]

Having grown up in the USA, I never knew about this little series and when I first did as a late teen, I honestly wasn't too impressed with the style of animation.... almost as I went back later to watch ALL the Ivor the Engine episodes on youtube. Now it's another favorite old show of mine. Wonder how they would make the movie, that's what I'm interested in. XD

[@984francis]

Perhaps at the time you didn't know how it was made. Google Smallfilms. If it doesn't leave you moved, well, that's a bit sad.

[@thomasmardy8362]

I love it it’s so good I’m from Australia and I think you’re videos are the best use of such good reasons and facts

[@alexfogg381]

Weirdly enough I hadn't actually ever heard of Ivor the engine until the second half of 2017, when by chance I found it on KZbin. A very interesting series.

[@thebardofshale304]

Personally, I love a good slice of life show. Not all story lines have to have an antagonist or suspenseful conflict. Sometimes its best just to watch a show about people (and engines) going about their daily Life. Also 100th Comment!

[@TheTrainMaster15]

I’ve personally never heard of Ivor, which made this quite interesting to watch.

[@eshanthetrainlover5178]

i LOVE Ivor the engine! I didn't know that it might go live action!

[@edwardreed67]

Good ol’ Ivor. Perfectly summed up the show :)) FLYING SAUCERS! (Reference)

[@steamie98]

Finally I’ve been waiting for something to do with Ivor on gauge the issue

[@thestarlightalchemist7333]

I just recently found out about ivor a month ago and I'm just amazed at the pure charm of the little green tank engine. Honestly, I wouldn't complain if Fisher price slapped a face on him and put him in T&F. Thomas would be at least 10% better if that happened. Cheers from Canada, Chris!

[@HoyeGraphics]

That was very sweet, Chris. I will definitely be checking out the original Ivor.

[@folksinger2100]

I watched it BW, I always feel that comfortable feeling when watching it now and from day 1.

[@aifrench14]

Good video mate :) I never knew there had been plans for a film version! I wonder if Postgate had been inspired by the Titfield Thunderbolt somewhat to create this rural charm effect? I always used to wonder what the point of Jones The Steam was seeing as Ivor used to drive himself and never seemed to need firing? I also found myself rewatching the first colour episode sometime ago, which opens with the line "not very long ago in the top left hand corner of Wales there was a railway" which to me implies it must have closed, been lifted, Ivor taken for scrap and Jones and Dai Station must both be on the dole... Ps, Barney was a legend!

[@highpath4776]

the closest, aside from say the cambrian ? railway in standard guage is the Corris Railway, which was independent (owned by the slate quarry company) then (inc quarry) GWR, then BR - closed as passenger services transferred to the Crosville Bus company ( which was part owned by the GWR). Locomotives ended up at the nearby tall-y-lyn on start of preservation control of that route.

[@TankEngine97]

Definitely a classic. I remember a live action movie of Ivor being announced years but nothing else has come about of it. Maybe it got cancelled or something.

[@parkerproductions4546]

Cheers for this GTI video, Chris. First time I've heard about a live-action Ivor the Engine film! Let's hope it's done properly and not be another Postman Pat movie...! Been a while since I've watched the Ivor episodes themselves. Time for a dose of nostalgia!

[@callumk5]

The soundtrack is available on iTunes and includes tracks with Oliver and Peter messing around with sound effects. It’s a glimpse behind the scenes but somehow the magic and charm are only enhanced.

[@WhitehouseFilms]

I've heard about the Ivor film but as you stated, hasn't been any word regarding its progress. Maybe the budget was too much for even Mrs Porty to fund. LOL. But there has been a film made recently featuring a fictional train (Not Thomas BTW) called Jim Button and Luke the Engine Driver. It had several TV adaptions but I've only seen one of them. Might be worth doing a GTi about someday but that's up to you. Maybe have it as a way to return Train Now Starring but who knows. Also, in relation on your talk with the 70's Paddington series, I think that the reason most of the cutouts were in black and white was perhaps to allow Paddington to stand out more to the audience while everything else blended into its surroundings. The Ivor Wood Blog holds some cool BTS info on the making of Paddington as well as Ivor Wood's other works in stop motion animation. Check it out when you have time free, it's a good read.

[@markmiddleton1772]

wow a blast from the past and yes loved watching Ivor . reminded me also loved watching the flockton flyer any one remember that

[@andyaccount]

Yes I saw this as well, which may have got me into liking the Great Western. I saw the actual locomotive in Minehead on the West Somerset Railway many years ago, although it is now apparently on the South Devon Railway

[@markmiddleton1772]

Brought dvd of whole series for 2 quid n enjoyed rewatching it @@andyaccount

[@thomasm1964]

How apropriate and relevant this video seems just over a year later.

[@josephmarrison4606]

I love Ivor. You summed it up really well Chris.

[@VT29steamtrain]

When I was little,.I got into trains by Thomas the Tank Engine, a book called Supertrains and a show called There goes a train. Ever since, I have been fascinated with real locomotives!

[@bskorupk]

"There goes a train" I haven't heard anyone mention that one in years, I recently found that it's now on KZbin! (I'm assuming this is the same one?) kzbin.info/www/bejne/jqi8Z4iilL6kY7s

[@retrogamelover2012]

I thought there was a bit of a political reference to the decimalization during the 70s, in an episode of Ivor, regarding the gas power volcano, as well as that whole "status quo" thing.

[@cogidubnus1953]

The nostalgic cartoon style, though not the sole charm of this series, is surely Ivor's U.S.P...

[@ronineter1]

Well, the idea of Ivor the engine going live action might be a reaction to the live action Jim button that was released recently.

[@JamesSmithStudios]

Live action Ivor the Engine? What was that person drinking. Next time they’ll say that they want to remake The Titfield Thunderbolt and bring to the big screen again (I’d doubt Lion would be up to it).

[@kingofthepod5169]

In America there was a dumb law about how when a locomotives brakes made an emergency application the dynamic brakes were disengaged. So if you hit the emergency brakes the train could go faster. This changed after a runaway on cajon pass, but the law was still stupid and likely made by someone who didn't understand what they were regulating.

[@jacobjcb8883]

Actually Ivor did have some friction like Bagpuss, The Clangers and Noggin The Nog to it in "Mrs Porty's foxes and "Retirement" which show Postgate's view of animals being hunted or captured by humans. This is also shown in the episodes "Snowdrifts" and "The Cuckoo Clock" where Ivor is shown not to want to harm any creature that strays on the line. The message is that we should respect all creatures great and small. Another bit of friction in Ivor worth mentioning in the episode "Juggernaut" Where Ivor's more modern replacement's brakes are quite faulty and it runs away. The message which I Imagine Postgate was trying to get out to the viewers is that a new invention can be quite revolutionary but only if designed with care, This could be throwing a jab at diesel locomotives being rushed into service with little testing, resulting in poor build quality during the 50's

[@shug831]

Got the DVD but they are on utube anyway. Would love to see a film of it.

[@jamesvanderlin7525]

I would like to see you do a discussion about if Thomas and Friends should return in cinema screens from the proposed World War 2 film that was supposed to come out in 2012.

[@barryosullivan5255]

I've heard many people ask what engine Ivor is, though given his sentient nature its obvious he's a Stanier 8F

[@bskorupk]

Hallowed be the Steam Atomiser! ;)

[@TankEngine75]

Nah he's a SR U

[@barleyarrish]

three cheers for oliver postgate

[@williampulfer-melville8536]

It would be Awesome if they used Captain Baxter as Ivor

[@williampulfer-melville8536]

Well theirs a Captain Pugwash movie in the works so i would love to see a Film of Ivor the Engine

[@audreehalcomb8462]

I was just watching some ivor and saw this wow

[@TenShine1productions]

My grandma and grandad had a old VHS of Ivor the engine and had at least the dragons and the new engine episode..mmaayybe the elephant episode but I do definitely remember the dragons. Was a really nice show but I can't see how it can be made a live action film

[@JintySteam1]

This is the first time I have heard that they are making a live action movie and I'm dreading it because it won't have the charm of the original. I love Ivor the Engine, it had such heart and good story telling. I kinda think it's funny how look upon the animation as being good when the show is what you would see on KZbin in terms of simplicity. But I'm not saying it's bad, I love the animation but it is simple, but that's also what I love about it. The art is also amazing.

[@CoasterKeegan]

Could you do a slip on the LMS Crabs?

[@Flyingscotsman44724]

Ivor is owned by Southern railway just because that Ivor has SR Green

[@CoalChrome]

I would like to see someone make a real life functional Ivor, it obviously wouldn't be exactly the same, any steam engine that short in real life is liable to be doing a perpetual wheelie, but a real Ivor would be an amazing engine to see.

[@petman515]

Well I'm 2 years late but there are the y7s class and a few others that are shorter then dirt.

[@bluefoxy6478]

If ivor is now 60 years old, wouldn't it be in the public domain at this point which would mean every episode of both black and white and color would no longer be owned by universal and thus they would give us all the episodes because of the copyright laws? If not, how many more years do we have to wait till it IS in the public domain?

[@TERRYBARTLETTRAILMAN28]

Thats a great show Ivor the engine is nice issue Chris

[@c4m3r0n]

Hey Chris!

[@hauntedholmes6954]

If this film does become reality, what engine will they use for Ivor and what railway will they use?

[@thomashambly3718]

Probably Andrew-Barclay 0-4-0 on the great central or north Yorkshire moors, or lakeside and haverthwaite railway.

[@barryosullivan5255]

well, if they need an engine to move by itself then an 8F surely

[@JackCavie]

My ultimate guess is the engine would be CGI with a full sized static prop model for cab shots and close ups. They might use a rural/light railway for filming as well, but this could be any number given the UK has some very nice scenic heritage railways :P

[@barryosullivan5255]

@@JackCavie alternatively, they may build a working saddle tank. Probably not to difficult compared to a H1, Patriot or Footballer

[@bskorupk]

I have a method that would do give two wanted sights at once: Overhaul and temporarily Repaint Furness Railway No. 25, as she's barely distinguishable from Ivor, being an inside-cylinder, 0-4-0 saddle tank www.furnessrailwaytrust.org.uk/bhsco17.htm

[@thomasandharry5199]

Dai station would approve of a live acton ivor film.

[@user-mp2el7ln1n]

Where did you get the footage, there not on KZbin

[@ChristheXelent]

They're on DVD and soon to be re-released on BluRay

[@naturespecialist1489]

Someone made a working model Ivor

[@samuelfarris1949]

In regard to Chris's point made toward Ivor being fairly low key, thinking in retrospect of it and the other Smallfilms productions now (as of 2023 when I updated this), I can see that Oliver Postgate evidently felt more enlightened with conveying the themes that endeared him in his other work. Setting a piece up about a railway, and the things that happen around it being usually not directly railway-related, kind of underlies how Postgate was uncomfortable delving too far into a subject matter that he was not as immersed in as the likes of the Reverend Awdry, who was a railway fan at heart and thus knew all the complicated mechanics going into his stories. Ivor in the grand scheme - even against Bagpuss and The Clangers, which both benefit from establishing a clear dividing line - comes across as a hodgepodge of story ideas anchored somewhat loosely around a backwater environment. This is ironically the one thing I also find rather deviating about The Titfield Thunderbolt, and a lot of other railway-related media (let alone the Thomas & Friends reboot) being given to writers who are not necessarily railway experts. It is nice though that Postgate appreciated Ivor's fans despite the apparent deviation, and delivered the goods anyway. Regards, Samuel Farris.

[@FlyinBlaney]

I mean, the dragon tho?

[@lordmelbury116]

I’m a bit nervous about posting this comment as it is a request and I understand that youtubers are bombarded with requests and they're not something that you should be expected to do for free, so I am perfectly cool if you decline or even don’t see this comment. But anyway with the recent completion of the restoration of the big boy locomotive I thought it would be rather interesting for someone to do a review of a anime science fiction (that I won't name) that is a cult favorite of mine.

[@Northerner_Transport_Hub]

I'm annoyed cos universal took down Ivor episodes

[@parkerwasnotavailable]

Insert *first* joke here

[@draz8302]

abara kidabara your mum is gay

[@Bugster42]

chris youve donenewbuilds youhaven't one the holdeneth holdenf5 who seem to keep a low profile

[@adrianrosenlund-hudson8789]

I really hope this NEVER gets off the ground. Repeat the original episodes, by all means, but there's already enough rip..er, I mean remakes. Program and film makers display a huge lack of talent or imagination, or even interest in those ideals. Leave Ivor alone. Think up something new instead. CREATE

[@mihaelalaber2084]

i'de rather get lost in wales cus it's the best country of the UK!

[@jacobrealsponge.o2436]

mm

[@TheNightmareRider]

So, you're telling me that the only reason Ivor's railway didn't "modernise" away from steam traction, was because the local community was running their own independent railway and wanted to keep steam? If I've understood correctly, aside from the wealthy donor helping fund everything out of the kindness of his heart, that's not too far off from socialist philosophy. Don't get me wrong, I'm not trying to get preachy about a children's cartoon from the 1970s and it's supposed political views, or lackthereof. I just find it kind of interesting, and a little bit surreal, how the creator's may have accidentally played into some aspects of socialism, without even knowing it! Kind of funny how you can attribute political theories to almost any form of entertainment when you break it down enough, eh? I mean, it's almost like we live in a society, or something! :P

[@highdownmartin]

Kindness of her heart

[@TheNightmareRider]

@@highdownmartin Thanks for the correction! My bad.

[@c4m3r0n]

1st

[@legospaceman_]

Cool