Gauntlet Series - FINALE - Sony WF-1000XM5 vs. Denon PerL Pro

[@risingsun_gt]

This was all I needed to decide on the PerL Pros, thanks for the review (I ordered through your link so hopefully that gives you some commission)

[@ronontech]

Glad it was helpful! Those links won't, but wanted to make sure you had access to those earbuds. Thanks for the support!

[@Dozeball]

The Perl Pros, once set up properly (run through personalized test->eq the flaws->set immersion level as desired) are class leading in ALMOST every aspect, and they're fecking comfortable as well. It's going to take a MASSIVE leap in technology to beat them (NO, Snapdragon audio DOES NOT COUNT as it's device restricted)...And to think that these were originally created by an Australian crowd-funded startup (Nura, with their TrueWireless Pro), before being bought out by a PREMIERE audio manufacturer. There's just nothing better at this point in time.

[@ronontech]

They are at the top of my list, along with the Status Between 3ANCs. Great sound quality from both of them, IMO.

[@actuallyfun6698]

Do you use yours with any phones that support the lossless audio?

[@henrybtesla6529]

True the sound is really good

[@ryan1845]

I purchased both. Returned the Sony XM5s. I've been using the Denon Pearl Pros more than my Focal Stellia cans recently... Wow Bluetooth has come a long way

[@ronontech]

I can't be mad at that decision.

[@jerrymako8100]

but do they get loud enough, I've returned every pair of ANC True wireless I purchased.

[@ryan1845]

@@jerrymako8100 oh yes...

[@dadthelad]

@@jerrymako8100 Jaysus, you are destroying your hearing dude. You'll be deaf within 10 years.

[@tracer073]

@@jerrymako8100you must have damage your ears, any louder you gonna get ear damage

[@dunkdunkowitz500]

Started with the Nuratrue, before they had the pros. My daily drivers. Recently lost them. Purchased the MX-5’s. Took me less than 2 hours of listening befor my the blasting at my eardrums caused aural fatigue. At 6 hours of play, done with them. Bought the Denton Perl Pros, they came today. Far better in every and all aspects than both the nuratrue and especially Mx-5’s. Unless you’ve truly tried both, for hours, many genres, you simply won’t understand. In my opinion, the Denons rival my custom JHAudio JH-16’s, and those were $1300.

[@ronontech]

The PerL Pros are one of my top earbuds, along with the Status Between 3ANC. Thanks for sharing.

[@kazino21]

You are referring to the Sony xm5 or something else, so I can steer clear of it

[@703elee]

camera tip.....to get things in focus when bringing close to the camera, put your hand behind the earbuds and the autofocus will focus on the object right in front of the camera. Then you can remove your hand and it'll stay in focus

[@ronontech]

Thanks for the tip.

[@703elee]

@@ronontech I just got the denon perl pro...I was torn between them and the Sony. Wow, these buds are amazing

[@pablovi77]

There’s no comparison, the Denon are in an other level. Not even my AKG 400nc or my B&W Pi7S2 can compete. The Denon sound excellent and have the best features and app.

[@Goryglory0209]

Man awesome. Keep doing these so down to earth consumer reviews

[@ronontech]

Thanks! Will do!

[@yiannis550]

Great reviews! Can you compare the Denon perl pro with over ears like the Sony WH 1000mx5 sound quality wise? Which one is better?

[@ronontech]

I don't own the WH-1000XM5 headphones. I will try to get them in.

[@lilechanneltv_7825]

Hey how u doing hey we’re can I purchase a couple pairs of these ear buds the denon earbuds ?

[@michaelcampofiorito2089]

Wow so the denon custom shows that you have a flat perfect hearing for all frequencies!! Means good health!

[@audiojunkie5435]

It doesn't show hearing, just the way sound resonates in your canal and adapts frequencies to that. Just like how we vocalise, our teeth and ridges in our mouth alter the timbre of our voices; the same thing happens in the ear canal. Just wanted to post this so people don't assume this is a hearing test :P

[@stanzapalny2123]

Appreciated! I would jump on Denon PerL Pros, just a little hesitant because of the supposedly worse ANC as it's high on my priority list. I wonder which ones would better block the wind noise while cycling, any thoughts or guesses on that? You won't hear the better sound quality if it can't get through the wind noise

[@ronontech]

Sorry for the late response. IMO, although the ANC is really good on the PerL Pro, the XM5 blocks out wind noise better.

[@gilmaralves3969]

I really really appreciate this video. I was finding a video exactly like this. Thank you so much!!!

[@ronontech]

Glad it was helpful!

[@awas1977]

hi, when putting the "clear bass" at its highest on the sony app and highest on the denon, which ones win bass wise?, I'm a bass freak, I love the rumble and punchy bass, I already have the xm5 but if denon have bigger bass then I'll definitely get them.

[@ronontech]

Great question. When doing that, I would give the slight to the PerL Pro. The XM5s has great bass, but IMO, the PerL Pros bass has clearer, cleaner bass.

[@christofkowa]

I currently still have the Samsung Buds 1 Pro and have now ordered the XM5. I'm curious to see if they sound better. I actually like the Denon brand more than Sony, but in this case the Sony appeal to me more. I hope I will like the sound. Thanks for your videos. They helped me a bit with the decision. King regards from Germany

[@ronontech]

Thanks for sharing

[@tomaszazarz3781]

Dziękuje za recenzję. Pozdrowienia z Polski.

[@ronontech]

My pleasure! Glad you enjoyed it.

[@bagratgabuniia8764]

Recommend whether to choose Denon Pearl Pro or Bang & Olufsen Beoplay EX? Thanks 🙏

[@ronontech]

PearL Pro would be my choice.

[@zandercraft1168]

I’ve been using the Sony XM4’s for 2.5 years now, on my second pair. They are now having the battery drain issue. Sony is aware of it and replacing people earbuds at no cost from what I’ve read. I’d rather just get the PerL Pro’s after watching this

[@ronontech]

Yes, Sony has been replacing the XM4s with battery issues. I just went and got the XM5s. So far so good with them. Getting the PerL Pro is a good choice.

[@HemorRage-si5zk]

please help me asap Ron! Black friday is coming up and I need to decide quick which earbuds are the best in terms of sound quality. I've narrowed it down to az-80, beoplay ex, gemini 2, and denon perl pro. What wireless buds do you think is the best (in the entire market) in terms of sound quality?

[@ronontech]

I can't speak on the Gemini 2s without putting them to the test (stay tuned for that). But when I compare the others, I would go with the Denon PerL Pro.

[@lookman7047]

Using my Denon Perl Pro with Oppo Find N3 (One+ Open). Shows aptX adaptive in bluetooth menu.

[@Punisher-1]

I did a long comparison between the Perl Pro and the Status ANC 3. I ended up returning the Denon Perl Pro. Many people like the Denon but they lack in instrument separation and Soundstage compared to the ANC 3. Bass is also better on the ANC 3, i found everything more clear in the ANC 3 because of the triple drivers. So if Perl Pro is better then Sony XM5 then i guess there's no need to try them.

[@ronontech]

I have them basically neck to neck. Where one falls a little short, the other is strong at and vice versa. But I understand your point of view.

[@joncruz]

You mean the 3ANC ? If so the ANC and bass is way weaker than the PerL

[@Punisher-1]

@joncruz On the Perl Pro it sounded bloated no matter the settings i used. In the ANC³ It was punchier and cleaner.

[@causeydawg]

Is the Denon any different than the Nura? I have the Nura’s and they sound great. Form factor is not my favorite. Love them both.

[@angelaeasthom6549]

yes although they’re getting firmware updates when nura isnt so maybe they improved sound quality?

[@ronontech]

The PerL Pro are the same except for updates and better mics.

[@Kimdongmin]

They are basically same, but Denon's tunning.

[@stevenlockard6374]

I bought the Denon pearl pro they sound awesome. I just ordered the CP360 spin fit ear tips.

[@ronontech]

Nice! Let me know what you think with the SpinFit eartips. I love the comfort of them.

[@stevenlockard6374]

@@ronontech I just got them today and tried them. I noticed that the inside diameter hole is smaller than the one that come with the Denon’s. They are more comfortable and feel like they would be harder to knock loose as I wear mine at work as I weld. But I immediately noticed that the loudness was diminished and had less bass. So I like how they fit and feel but I’m not willing to give up that thump so I went back to the ones that came with the Denon’s.

[@JoeGillian0]

​@@stevenlockard6374Hi, what about passive noise isolation with the spinfit?

[@stevenlockard6374]

@@JoeGillian0 it was fine but I was more focused on the loss of bass and loudness.

[@JoeGillian0]

@@stevenlockard6374Thanks, i am also keeping my Denon Pro they are some of the best or at the very least pleasingsounding tws to my ears

[@OxydaFosf]

Good video, I just noticed that you have camera focus issues, when you introduce them you cant really see details

[@ronontech]

Noted! I have corrected that since this video was released.

[@elnathan2930]

Hey Ron, new to your channel, I wanted to ask would you recommend still getting tidal HiFi over using spotify with the Denon Perl Pro as my phone can only support aptx which is 16 bit audio so is it still worth getting Tidal HiFi with the Denon Perl Pros

[@ronontech]

Welcome to the channel. Sorry for the late response. I have started using Deezer recently. I find the sound better than Tidal.

[@argonaut5520]

Hi Ron, How would you compare the bass on Denon Perl Pro vs Souncore Liberty 3 Pro?

[@ronontech]

IMO, the PerL Pro has cleaner bass than the L3P.

[@icecorebaby]

My denon perl pro left earbud doesn't charge anymore, any suggestions?

[@ronontech]

Have you tried resetting them?

[@icecorebaby]

The earbud is completely dead, no power.

[@thatchinaboi1]

I wonder how the Denon Perl compares to the Philips Fidelio T2 in terms of sound quality.

[@ronontech]

I'm trying to get the T2s in but I can't find anywhere to order then other than the UK.

[@thatchinaboi1]

@@ronontech Let me know when you got them in to review. I would like to exchange opinions regarding sound quality and overall performance.

[@vilmantev7831]

I was waiting so long this compare 💪🏻😋

[@sspipeqfbueu7072]

Hi bro, Could you please help me with my decision regarding Bose Earbuds Ultra, Denon Perl Pro, Az80, and JABRA Evolve 65..(o maybe you can suggest other ones). My Top priorities are Phone Calls/MIC, in the GYM, and Quality in noisy environments/windy as well. Even more important, they should work without issues. Thanks in advance :)

[@gabe8138]

I'd like to hear the answer as someone pickin lmao although I do feel he might pick denon Perl pro

[@ronontech]

@sspipeqfbueu7072 Based on what you're looking for, I would go with either the Bose QC Ultra or the Denon PerL Pro. You get great ANC from both, and they both have wings, so they will stay in ear while working out and sweating. But when you throw in phone calls on top of all of that, I would go with the PerL Pro. They have the better mics, IMO.

[@sspipeqfbueu7072]

@@@ronontech Thanks Bro! Lovely ;)

[@sspipeqfbueu7072]

@@@ronontech Hi bro, finally I have the Perl Pro's in my hands. Just would like to enquire which is the proper app for this. l will be happy to make a personalized setting, that's why. I have installed the Denon Headphones but through this am unable to do that. Could you please assist? Thank you so much for your assistance...

[@ronontech]

@@sspipeqfbueu7072 Download the Denon app for the PerL Pro. You will do the personalized hearing profile immediately.

[@BlackJack-ev3ko]

Hi ,Are they both good in combination with an iPhone, I mean the sound quality only?

[@ronontech]

I believe they are. Too bad the iPhone doesn't support LDAC or aptX.

[@NahImSte]

I don't know if its just an EQ problem, but I honestly think i prefer my xm5s over perl pros and galaxy buds 3... I have done the masimo test thingy butni thin the sound os really tinny still...

[@ronontech]

Thanks for sharing.

[@NahImSte]

@@ronontech perl pros turned out 1000x better

[@thomaslamanna8125]

Hi Ron, sorry to bother you, I'm Thomas from Italy, I saw your wonderful reviews on my Denon pros. I noticed that you use different silicone tips than the originals. I wanted to kindly ask you where I can find them? A thousand thanks

[@ronontech]

It's no bother. They are the SpinFit OMNI eartips.

[@thomaslamanna8125]

thank you so much great man. Order now because I would like to stabilize the Denon Perl Pro more. so they dance a little in my ear and aren't exactly solid. Thank you and I will continue to follow your reviews. Happy New Year

[@som3ascope196]

Would u help me to decide between this one and the new Bose comfort ultra?

[@ronontech]

Between these two and the QC Ultra, I would go with the Denon PerL Pro.

[@whatsuphelp]

Hi Ron, thanks for the comparison. I had the XM4 before and I liked them but they had batterie problems which couldnt be fixed. So I bought the Xm5 and I wasnt happy with the Sound Signatur (V Curve) so Im gonna go with the Denon this time

[@ronontech]

Have you tried the Find My Equalizer feature in the app? I have and it makes them sound so much better. Thanks for the support.

[@richardbuckingham4329]

Any idea whether the Denons sound as good when paired with an iPhone? All of the testing I’ve seen is has been with android phones.

[@ronontech]

I beieve they would. They support Apples AAC codec.

[@twocom592]

What is your personal top 10 on wireless in-ear Buds in comperrasion for soundquality and ANC?

[@ronontech]

Stay tuned to the channel. I will be doing a series of Top 10 videos.

[@nAcolz]

​@@ronontechsubscribed, looking for TWS earphones to replace my nothing ear 1 and can't decide haha

[@ashtonthebasshead]

Which sounds better between the Sony Wf1000xm5s and the Soundcore Liberty 3 pros?

[@tracer073]

Sony

[@ashtonthebasshead]

@@tracer073 interesting

[@ronontech]

IMO, I would go with the XM5s. I will have to do a comparison between them. Great question!

[@franzbustamante6699]

I only have an iphone and ipad daily. Is this good for apple products? Or should i get airpods pro 2? Or what tws earbuds can you recommend for me if sound quality is my top priority (bcs i always wearing earbuds outside or not and when going to gym). Thank you and i also subscribed!

[@ronontech]

For the best results, I would suggest getting the airPods Pro 2. They would work better within that ecosystem. Thanks for the support!!

[@josecervantes1339]

Hey bro would you help me decide on earbuds for the gym? My preference is audio quality as well as noise cancellation quality -Sony Xm5 earbuds -Perl Pro -AirPods Pro -Status Between 3anc

[@ronontech]

For the gym, I would go with the PerL Pro. They have the wings that give you a secure fit for the exercising. The noise canceling is really good, but not on the level of the XM5.

[@josecervantes1339]

@@ronontech appreciate the response king !💪🏼 thanks for the feedback this solidified my choice with the perl pros !

[@ozanaktas8064]

Thank you for the review. I was waiting for the new Jabra Elite 10 to replace my Jabra 85T. Do you think this Denon Pro is good enough to pay $100 more for the music sound quality? I am all looking for the sound quality.

[@ronontech]

Yes, absolutely. I'm waiting on the Elite 10 myself.

[@ozanaktas8064]

I got the Denon Perl Pro few days ago and I don't think I am going back to any of the Jabra's anymore. I am just extra happy with the sound quality of these Denon's.@@ronontech

[@REN-em4ww]

Que tal Hello!! Tomorrow I'll receive the Elite10. I'd like to know about your experience! Are they finally your daily headphones? Regards.

[@casvar5680]

Hi man, Until now what is the best earbuds (only sound) for you ? last year i bought the Nura True Pro but now it's gone so I'm looking for the new one, What do you thing, I just wanna buy the best sound instant Nura thankyou and I'm a Bigfan of your chanal

[@ronontech]

Right now, only sound, IMO is the Status Between 3ANC. Thanks for the support!

[@AlejandroGonzalez-mk4kc]

Bro help AirPods Pro 2 or xm5 or technics az80? /: and best overall over ear headphone? AirPods Max xm5(overears) xm4 or crusher anc 2? Or any other I want good bass loud and good anc and transparency features too /: and the last question I have is clip4 or xb100 or wonderboom3? Or other mini loud speaker recommendations?

[@ronontech]

Right now, I can only answer the you first question honestly. IMO, the best overall would go with the XM5s, then AirPods Pro 2, then AZ80s. I hope that helps.

[@joshchacko7729]

What is the song you play when you play the music? So catchy. Name please.

[@ronontech]

The title is Hot Chocolate by Aves.

[@joshchacko7729]

@@ronontech Thank you!

[@oilwings]

I have both of them and love both.

[@tracer073]

If you had to pick which one would you pick

[@youandwhosearmy6339]

@@tracer073 DEnon

[@andreasrheindt8606]

Thanks mate

[@Patrickmathieu0482]

What??! Denon doesn't deliver in my province (Quebec)??!! They deliver in the entire canada but not in Quebec! Wow i am speechless! 🤨 amazon don't sell Denon pearl pro...Ron do you know where i can buy those earbuds?

[@angelaeasthom6549]

steal them

[@ryan1845]

Get them delivered to a friend and pick them up

[@Patrickmathieu0482]

@@angelaeasthom6549 🤣🤣

[@tonan8606]

They are not released yet.

[@ryan1845]

In his region?

[@ramonpollacco1231]

What are the best true wireless buds if I prioritise sound quality and mainly listen to pop music, please?

[@ronontech]

There's so many to choose from. Any on my Top 10 list would do a great job.

[@ramonpollacco1231]

@@ronontech thank you for taking the time to reply ☺️

[@nightfire2015]

I dont think my phone supports the lossless mode of the denons, is the lossless mode really needed for these buds?

[@ronontech]

It only works with devices that support it. I think they sound awesome without it.

[@alvinamana1459]

If you buying these get a phone that supports it. If not the Sony better choice cause your phone would support ldac an you get the. Best of it. I'll say do research an make sure your phone supports it you'll get the best bang for your buck

[@djtc1979]

How high the XM5s are on Yours list ? 1a or below?

[@ronontech]

Below. If I were to do my top 10 now, they would be in my top 5.

[@RenatusChristoph]

Solid comparison!

[@ronontech]

Thanks.

[@joshchacko7729]

Thanks man. Subbed.

[@ronontech]

Thanks for the sub!

[@joshchacko7729]

@@ronontech You put in the work. Half self, half god.

[@Dawudtru]

Which earbuds has the most bass that you have tried ?

[@ronontech]

Bose QC Ultra, Sony XM4/XM5, Denon PerL Pro, Status Between 3 ANC, Devialet Gemini II, Soundpeats Opera05 right off the top of my head.

[@kazino21]

How are the perl Vs perl pros, assuming lack of spatial is going to make the largest difference?

[@ryan1845]

Go pro bro

[@ronontech]

I would suggest the Pro

[@dadthelad]

Lower quality driver, Bluetooth 5.0 instead of 5.3, no aptX Adaptive or aptX Lossless, no Multipoint, no spatial audio, only 2 mics instead of 4 (2 bone conducting) per ear, no aptX Voice. Pros: lighter weight at 7.1g vs 8.6g.

[@kazino21]

@@dadthelad thanks for your response, sound wise what % of the Pro did they manage to retain (as I don't want to spend that kind of money on the pro)

[@dadthelad]

@@kazino21I don't know mate, I'm just quoting the specs on their website. I've just been researching which buds to get myself, so took notes. Tossing up between Perl Pro, Sony XM5, and Sennheiser Momentum 3. Perl Pro is the clear winner on sound quality at least.

[@robertprzybylak7387]

Super recenzja BARDZO DZIĘKUJE NIESAMOWITE 🇵🇱✌🇺🇸

[@ronontech]

Glad you enjoyed it! Thanks for the support!

[@Mianejaz-7799]

Which is the loudest earbud you have?

[@cap2666]

Oneplus pro 2

[@ronontech]

Good question. I'll have to get back to you on that. I have a LOT of earbuds.

[@terryjones3018]

I just purchased the denon perl pro's & the only thing they have going for them is the sound quality. But that's still not worth the $549 aud price tag. Below are my complaints. I cannot get them to charge up on their first charge. ( I heard that you have to use the denon usb-c cable that comes with them. You cant use any normal usb-c cable as I did. So what happens when the denon cable finally dies. If you a bloke with short finger nails, you can't get them out of the charging case without using something pointy, like a pen, etc. They are so big, they hurt your ears after a few minutes of wearing. The set up process using the denon app failed a number of times and I had to restart all over again. I am waiting for JB HIFI to open in the morning, so I can call them and advised that they are being returned for a full refund. Nothing But over rated, over priced rubbish.

[@ronontech]

Thanks for sharing and support.

[@terryjones3018]

@@ronontech I took them back for a refund and was going to request a refund and they had one set in stock, so I said open them and test them and if they are working fine. I will exchange them. It appears my set was faulty. 2 of the 3 leds on the front would not come and the ear buds would not charge from the case. But the case was fully charged and that was the reason the case would not charge from plugging into a power supply. I swapped out the ear pieces and found the 2nd set of ear pieces with the little wing on them fitted into my ear much better. The ear piece that comes fitted from factory is what was hurting my ears. They also connected to the app first go this time and set up without any issues. So I have now sorted out most of my issues with the new 2nd set now and I was probably a bit harsh with my first review. But I must say, they do sound sweet. I dunno if they sound sweet enough for $549.00 aud. If you can get them on a special price drop. They are worth buying. The only complaint I have now, is the issue of trying to get them out of the case with your fingers. You need to carry a pen or something thin and pointy to get under them to pry them out of the case. They are magnetic, so you cant tip them out either.

[@steffrouen]

Denon perl pro Better than devialet gemini 2 ?

[@ronontech]

Check my channel for that video.

[@simonwilliams5871]

Could not get a good fit on the per pro. Weeny ear holes and massive weight is a bad combo. Tried for two days. Sound excellent but no seal equals rubbish anc. Swopping for diavialet gem 2. In for a penny.. Expensive stuff..

[@ronontech]

Agreed. Sorry they didn't work out for you. You won't be disappointed with the Gemini 2s.

[@Rose_19911]

hey man, can I ask if i’ve got an iphone, why would their brand be better? (think you mentioned it in a separate comment)

[@ronontech]

You would be able to enjoy all the features available within the Apple ecosystem if you went with their products. Earbuds included.

[@SkylerMusic-b4c]

Nice!

[@ronontech]

Thanks!

[@assassinsbrother]

Hey man, can you help me decide the better earbuds to get? Great content you're creating, helping me a lot to make a better decision. The most important factors are the sound quality and ANC/Transparancy mode. * Denon Perl Pro * WF-1000XM5 * Sennheiser MomentumTrue Wireless 3 * B&W Pi7 S2 * Technics EAH-AZ80 Thanks in advance :)

[@ronontech]

My choices in order considering your factors are: Denon PerL Pro Momentum 3 WF-1000XM5 EAH-AZ80 Pi7 S2 (I never purchased them) Thanks for the support. I hope this helps.

[@assassinsbrother]

@@ronontech Thank you very much, I really appreciate it!

[@cenkiconkiconk]

Bose Earburds Ultra

[@MrVricolaks]

@@ronontechYou got my like and subscribe for that answer above. Can I ask you the same? Devialet Gemini 2, Perl Pro, Az80, JBL Tour Pro 2. Sound and ANC are top priorities. Phone calls/mic quality in noise/windy as well. Even more important, they should work without issues (like sony, bose, etc). Prev. Ive tried Klipsch. Sometimes only 1 bud connects, other time they stay connected to the phone even after I put them back in case (and drain battery). Sony 700n buds - I could hear every footstep I took. Beats Fit Pro - they pick up SLIGHTEST wind noise. I mean, I couldnt feel it, but I could hear them in buds. BW 7s2 - no volume control on the buds. Momentum 3 were OK until they got stollen. They did pick up a bit of wind, but all in all good earbuds. All those brands do fancy codecs, transparency mode, adaptive this and that - but cant nail the basic. Connect, stay connected, isolate sound and sound good.

[@ronontech]

@@MrVricolaks I just got the Gemini II and Bose QuietComfort Ultra earbuds in (literally just arrived). Stay tuned for their unboxing vids and their Gauntlet Series.

[@muhamedminkov774]

THANK YOU FOR LISENING TO ME UNLIKE MY FAMILY

[@ronontech]

No problem!

[@Damir-FXDomination-Horvat]

I dunno why do you make a reviews like this, There's nothing special in those soundstage wise. None of them are audiophile earphones, Real audiophile earphones are IEM's. Fiio FH3 and are 100 light gyears in front of them not to mention Shure SE846 or Truthear Hexa

[@ronontech]

Thanks for the comment.

[@charleswilliams6961]

@DamirHorvat-nw7wm Ron is comparing true wireless earbuds…Not wired earbuds buddy.. Of course wired buds would sound better.. No comparison 🙄

[@Goryglory0209]

You might be a fan of Chinese copy products like Fiio

[@killaforma]

I have the Hexa and they won't sound anywhere near the sound of the Denon (not even the 80% of it) I also have the Kato, the IE200, the Dusk, the S12, out of all of them the only one near is the Dusk but the Denon has way better bass and treble and imaging, not counting that if you want to make the Dusk (or any wired iem) sound good you'll need a good source/amplifier like the Q5 or the BTR7 which together they cost way more than the Denon. I have the BTR5 and few more wireless iems that the Perl just blow out of the water.

[@Damir-FXDomination-Horvat]

@@Goryglory0209 Fiio ia not a copy of anything. It's his own brand that defeated 50% of all of the other brands "fancy" brands out there by giving value for money. And to be clear Fiio products are not cheap.