It’s remarkable how you manage to create original League content after so many years in the scene. Flawless commentary, captivating storytelling and appropriate visuals (which must take a ton of editing and thinking). Great job as always.
@ChickenCast1002 жыл бұрын
A staple league youtuber! I coudn't agree more with you!
@bavo51792 жыл бұрын
RIVER SHEN !
@justinshort8152 жыл бұрын
Couldn't have said it better myself
@taylorbrown38922 жыл бұрын
Oh God if Petu likes this it must be good.
@FredCooperDaThird2 жыл бұрын
@@taylorbrown3892 of course it is. It's Gbay!
@RawBerserker2 жыл бұрын
It feels crazy how something as immense as League/Dota all stemmed from one guy making a mod. It's like a wildfire starting from the smallest spark. I'm so glad you're back from the hiatus. It's easy to say your docs have become some of the best content on KZbin.
@TheYoutubeUser692 жыл бұрын
i think he very well explained exactly the opposite! it did not stem from one guy. it was one guys idea that he made open source and allowed people to build on. fucking legend that dude!
@rajder6562 жыл бұрын
a lot of genres came from people making a fun mod for a game. Just look at battle royal
@dlugi41982 жыл бұрын
TBF that's how Pubg and Fortine was created. Or idea behind them, one zombie mode from soem Arma game.
@RicKyngs2 жыл бұрын
he doesn't mention the big contribution from icefrog perfecting dota
@SilencedButNotForgotten2 жыл бұрын
@@RicKyngs can you explain it?
@Bowblax22 жыл бұрын
if crazy to see decade old footage of league with Malphite in it and realizing that he still has the same model and animations in 2022 lol
@TubbyBubbleLove42 Жыл бұрын
They had a rock solid design!
@kimofrosty Жыл бұрын
still farming drama in 2022.
@Shaco. Жыл бұрын
Teemo, Cho, Shaco, Zilean, Veigar and many more.
@Manco1lol2 жыл бұрын
Love the rich history of gaming and league of legends. Amazing doc thank you !
@LoonaVanza2 жыл бұрын
Yeaaaa Manco sup pal
@jhun3217 Жыл бұрын
yow i always watch your teemo vids ., im a FAN . 😁
@lukebortot76252 жыл бұрын
Its Interesting that pretty much all of the biggest multiplayer games that are around today were originally community made mods for other games. Mobas (League and DotA) came out of mods for starcraft and warcraft. Tactical shooters (CSGO and Valorant) were came out of a mod for team fortress, Battle Royals (PUBG, Fortnite, Apex Legends) came out of a mod for ARMA. Its a shame that so few games have mod support these days.
@FreakzWasTaken2 жыл бұрын
also autochess
@Lukeiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii Жыл бұрын
Wasn't cs a mod in halflife originally?
@Johndoe-gd4tb Жыл бұрын
@@Lukeiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii yes
@96dot Жыл бұрын
@@Lukeiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii yeah cs is a mod from half life and not team fortress lol
@Ninjauserlol2 жыл бұрын
Gbay99 never fails to make a great documentary
@zeldaxlovexfanxd2 жыл бұрын
And he does it again! Captivated from start to finish. Gbay mate, ur a legend, thank you. Cant wait for the next part
@LoonaVanza2 жыл бұрын
So Wonderfully done, i couldn't think of anyone else to produce better documents then you did, so eager to watch pat 2 and 3 if it extends that long, so as league player who loves the game and community thankbyou for producing the doc.
@blacklight11042 жыл бұрын
Can't believe how it's been a few decades now since the first video game and so many games and changes that happenned over the years. I almost can't believe it that it all happened on my lifetime if I didn't live it. All those old games and the atmosphere back then feels like a different lifetime. The commentary is superb as always and watching how you document these things feels like history is being chronicled everytime. Thanks for the amazing content as always!
@nevercakegames2 жыл бұрын
I consider Warcraft III my favorite game of all time. I loved so many custom maps, but for some reason never liked DotA. Now I play League lol
@OptimumFear2 жыл бұрын
Welcome back, Goldbay! Been playing league since Lucian came out in season 3, been a filthy addict ever since! love your work
@santibergallo2 жыл бұрын
Even though I've stopped playing League for the third time (for more than a year), getting to know more about its story is great. Thanks for another wonderful upload, keep them coming!!
@h8f82 жыл бұрын
Reinstall you won’t
@ilypo2 жыл бұрын
LET'S GO GBAY IS BACK BABYYYY
@Hadrian1172 жыл бұрын
Enjoy while it last
@jonsmith4302 жыл бұрын
Hey great to see you back man! I love the analytic/ documentary videos like this!
@AWanderingSwordsman2 жыл бұрын
I do love how league is the perfect counterexample to corporate game design philosophy. It's incredibly dense with mechanics and depth to the point that you could play 200 matches that average over 30 minutes, and still basically have no fucking clue what you are doing and be worse than bronze. That's more than 100 hours and you still suck so bad that pretty much everything you are doing is wrong. It's also hyper competitive and people can really go very hardcore into playing it and trying to improve at it. All that, and it was for a time the most played game out there and is still one of the most successful video games of all time. It's proof that you don't need to sand off all the edges of every game to be successful.
@aoisora14452 жыл бұрын
remember this game is free to play, but still makes tons of money on cosmetics
@kristiandy2386 Жыл бұрын
@@aoisora1445 its not free to play at all, you need to pay with real money or your times to unlock all the champ
@lolfelixlol Жыл бұрын
I remember trading my LOL beta key for a HoN key because I thought LOL had sanded down Dota too much 😁 (I still agree with your comment, just a thought that made me smile while reading it)
@lefroste6370 Жыл бұрын
league is inherently very addicting as a model even if you dont know what you're doing,the sheer amount of variables and constant new stimuli will make you enjoy playing it even if you are trash at it,but some people get weeded out because they quite literally have no idea what theyre doing ,but that's just their lack of reading
@AUniqueHandleName444 Жыл бұрын
@@kristiandy2386 tard tier comment
@lukkettscali2 жыл бұрын
Seeing a video of yours pop up in my feed is such a Serotonin rush. I’ve loved every single video since you’ve made the switch to do more documentary-esc videos and it’s like waiting for the next video is like waiting for the next season of a show you love. Stellar job 💙
@math709e2 жыл бұрын
Awesome and well written video Gbay! For someone who first started playing and learning about league at season 7, I found it extremely interesting to get a deeper look into the creation and early days of league. You hit the nail on it’s head with this one.
@williamroy52692 жыл бұрын
Honestly! Thank goodness youtube did something right and recommended this video. I had all but forgotten about my favorite LOL review channel. Awesome video. I hope the rest of your viewers get to see this on their home page.
@Chickensea102 жыл бұрын
This video was awesome! Some other things that made league so amazing back then were the special gamemodes like:ascension, doom bots, legend of the poro king, black market brawlers, hexakill, etc. Login screens were always so hyped to see and hear, we had more community videos showcased by riot like: stickfigure spotlight, summoner showdowns, how to be annoying in league of legends series, etc. Its so crazy where league has come and gone to! One other map thats not in this video was a special, magma 1v1 map!
@VarsVerum2 жыл бұрын
He's back.
@TheBigAngryHobo2 жыл бұрын
I WANT THE NEXT EPISODE. Damn Gbay you’re still an incredible content creator.
@Jroach0210 Жыл бұрын
For real, I got goosebumps at the end.
@MrLolguy932 жыл бұрын
I started playing League when Cassio came out. That was also the day I discovered I had a thing for Monster Girls. Thank you, Riot Games
@philipp57562 жыл бұрын
What’s your opinion on Bel‘Veth?
@Kyrari222 жыл бұрын
too based
@MrLolguy932 жыл бұрын
@@philipp5756 dat Bel'Vussy got me acting strange
@SaSo-mk6yh2 жыл бұрын
...
@Rex2Riches2 жыл бұрын
🤨🤨
@Silverdaay2 жыл бұрын
So cool to have a new documentary !
@Kevinterell2 жыл бұрын
IT'S ABOUT TIME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! GLAD MY BOY GBAY IS BACK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@praetorxak53612 жыл бұрын
I was literally just talking about how you are my favorite KZbinr, and how I was so sad that you haven't uploaded in forever just to see you upload a video the next morning!!!
@jasonp74232 жыл бұрын
Your channel deserves so much more love Gbay. Your work is amazing.
@hungrymusicwolf2 жыл бұрын
11:21 "This was a genre built by a collective group who were just trying to make something fun" - and that nails what I used to love about league, and the lack of which made me stop playing 3-4 years ago.
@Draxxuzownzu2 жыл бұрын
Still a fun game for me and I still love it, been playing since season 1 :)
@francisgiann17412 жыл бұрын
@@Draxxuzownzu true, i feel the game didn't change (been playing since season 4) but i do agree that league is more fun when you don't know what your doing
@beachlemon4845 Жыл бұрын
You just cant take the heat of the competition. Its ok guy
@hungrymusicwolf Жыл бұрын
@@beachlemon4845 Who're you talking to?
@minartson2 жыл бұрын
FWhile DotA lans were happening, it was hard to find a single DotA game inside TFT, combing through countless NvB, Angel Arena, GTD and Footman Frenzy lobbies. Granted in a long run they were more fun to play. Most fun part about DotA was the -wtf -a game mode, basically URF with random champions in League. It was a game of honor because whoever got Zeus, was flamed until he rerolled a new champ. It was fun watching 9 people cry while you have a global Karthus ult with 1-second cooldown.
@Dandy4ask Жыл бұрын
Here after the “to be continued”, a master piece. Love your editing style and videos.
@PeachezXu2 жыл бұрын
So happy to see you in my recommended feed!!!
@michalhrdy577 Жыл бұрын
there better be a continuation! that was so enticing, i had no idea about the LoL development, very appreciated bro
@dawson30892 жыл бұрын
Hey buddy, glad to see you still at it! coming up on 8yrs since I started watching you.... crazy
@toast4952 жыл бұрын
The legend returns!
@speedy1gram2 жыл бұрын
The ending got me hyped! Keep up the amazing work, sir, you are one of the good ones!
@SuperBeckham99 Жыл бұрын
has to be faker right?
@deadbug95772 жыл бұрын
WOAH WAS NOT EXPECTING GUAM TO BE FEATURED ON THIS!! LOVE FROM GUAM GBAY!
@sameioffs2 жыл бұрын
Brooo! This cliffhanger, oh my god! Cant wait for the followup :) Good job Gbay!
@josemanuelalonzoflores8576 Жыл бұрын
I was missing this kind of content, the fact that you left that cliffhanger at the end caught me off guard. Keep it up Gbay, I'm a fan!
@811misanthropy32 жыл бұрын
Glad to see Gbay99 in my recommendations again, haven't seen on of your vids in ages
@Jvit172 жыл бұрын
Glad you're back GBay. Been watching you for years and you're truly on one of the best creators
@ItsTheHaos2 жыл бұрын
Love seeing a Gbay99 upload!
@seanhayden77762 жыл бұрын
The moba craze in 2013-2014 was so much fun. I miss games like strife, dawngate, and heroes on newerth
@jackalpwn422 жыл бұрын
You can have a bad time before a Gbay video. You can have a bad time after a Gbay video. But you'll never have a bad time DURING a Gbay video. Keep at it King, you're the best
@umbranight16282 жыл бұрын
HES BACK! Welcome back my boy i will be watching every video. i searched you up no less than 5 times during ur break to make sure the algorithm wasnt hiding you from me and im glad your back- and with gusto! Cant wait to see whats next
@Gothrein2 жыл бұрын
Glad to see you back marking documentaries!
@Abdulaziz.Abdullah2 жыл бұрын
Wow what an enjoyment this video was, legit didn't feel 16 min go by, cannot wait for part 2
@Watermellowed2 жыл бұрын
Another banger. Watching this flooded me with so much nostalgia for the early days of MOBAs. Looking forward to what's coming next.
@eucas74032 жыл бұрын
Another banger by the most consistent LoL documentary maker. Cant wait for the “to be continued” video
@KALMAMV2 жыл бұрын
Im honestly upset this didn't come up on my recomended for over a week. I have been STARVED of my Gbay99.
@7mikeyortiz72 жыл бұрын
How!? I get goosebumps every time you put out a documentary! Thank you for this one homie
@PoptartGunman212 жыл бұрын
This was great! You have always made some great docs. I'm really looking forward to seeing the rest of this series!
@nhiamoua5816 Жыл бұрын
i made some food, sat down ready for some long form league content from gbay99 only to realize it was a 15 min video. gah damnit i was excited.
@daffillenco Жыл бұрын
Love that you included Grasshyren at 9:01
@user-ni2tp6ey6l2 жыл бұрын
Amazing video! Can't wait for the intro of part 2 to finish rolling, only for a very familiar looking 5'6 250 tank-top wearing screaming behemoth to show up
@MissZerglot Жыл бұрын
The addition of challenges this season renewed my interest in the grind, and it has me coming back time and time again. I love URF but the lack of URF-specific challenges is what keeps me from playing the gamemode continually. Gamification works, and a lack of achievements or leaderboards for the other gamemodes that aren't SR or ARAM only contributes towards their failure to remain interesting over time.
@LitoSi2 жыл бұрын
Wow this was incredible to watch, thank you. Looking forward to part 2
@hikokaplayer90902 жыл бұрын
dude i genuinely MISSED you !! like ... i just love it when you post
@chessex2602 жыл бұрын
YEAH BABY NEW GBAY VIDEO THATS WHAT I'VE BEEN WAITING FOR
@krkirill2 жыл бұрын
Hooray!!! Welcome back:) Thank you for another interesting introductory video.... NEED MORE...
@Technosoul22 Жыл бұрын
IDK if you read your comments Gbay but I gotta say you do an amazing job and I appreciate you. I don't understand how you aren't a 5 mil view average with this content.
@RelyksLegacy2 жыл бұрын
Babe wake up, new GBay video dropped! As always, amazing video. Can't wait to see part 2!
@cry94382 жыл бұрын
I learned alot today about the history of DotA. Thank you. I played DotA every single day in my high school for years until 2nd year college when it died because of DotA2. I was ecstatic to play DotA2 but when it came out it didn't click on me, probably because I believe even today that Blizzard's character design, animation, voice lines, sfx, game engine and details that are the body of DotA is so freaking legendarily good that I felt so disgusted in the Dota2 animation and design it turned me off. Probably because I know how to draw and animate so I felt really bothered by it while trying DotA 2. Then my classmates have me tried League of Legends that for me was really ugly at the time I didn't get hooked until they updated the graphics of the game 10x better especially the map, one day I saw one in net cafe playing a limited game mode in LoL where it's the same game but with less cooldown (80% cooldown reduction), I was like "Hey that's like -wtf in DotA! Except there still a little cooldown on abilities" there and there, I decided to give it a try because of one game mode. Now my LoL account is Level 400+ with 400+ skins with complete 5 ultimate skins (mind you I never directly bought a skin in my life all are from chests/events/fusing but yeah I still have spent money).
@Mr.DISRESPECT Жыл бұрын
if you don't mind, what's your IGN??
@cry9438 Жыл бұрын
@@Mr.DISRESPECT ĐriX in Garena server Philippines
@nomooon Жыл бұрын
Agreed. Dota 2 art design is worse than war3. War3 remastered also worse art than original. Lol art not bad in comparison.
@durbek4389 Жыл бұрын
@@nomooon how it is worse. I also used to play Dota 1 and still play Dota 2 and LoL. I just can't understand. It is like saying uncolored movies of 1900s are more colorful than todays movies lmao.
@nomooon Жыл бұрын
@@durbek4389 it's design style. Dota 2 character designs have less personality and creativity than the dota 1 designs, which came from Warcraft 3.
@StUcKwithmUsIc2 жыл бұрын
Glad to see you posting, goldbay
@Wellnow1231232 жыл бұрын
just the other day i was wondering when the next gbay video was! nice to see you back looking forward to it
@xNickJones Жыл бұрын
Glad you're back with more fresh content. Hadn't seen one of your videos in too many years but glad I searched for one. I was gonna pause and listen to the basshunter song and probably go to sleep but when you posted the clip of it I kept watching (paused to laugh my ass off) and thoroughly enjoyed learning so much more about a genre of game I've been playing for over a decade. Thanks gbay for the years and years of content. I hope your life is good my dude.
@alciozc3591 Жыл бұрын
I do not understand how watching videos from early 2000s gives me nostalgia seeing as I did not play any videogames then heck I was barely born
@jacobfox44272 жыл бұрын
Fantastic!! So glad to see you back at it. Can't wait for the next video.
@daymianhogue16342 жыл бұрын
A Gbay video? We need more of these.
@Bilbomon2 жыл бұрын
YAY MORE GBAY YAY. I remember watching your art of war video way back in 2013/14 you hooked me further into league than anyone other KZbinr. I’ve made heaps of friends from it. Cheers gbay. Ps. You also got me into American football lol
@gbay992 жыл бұрын
Good man :)
@nicksaia3754 Жыл бұрын
I have two comments on youtube (this is one). This video is so well done, captivated every second. The music, editing, way you present information. 10/10 content
@markocurcic63142 жыл бұрын
Off topic but I gotta say it, I thought of you a couple a day ago and here it is a new video, dope no doubt, but I went back to see the first Road to Diamond series you've made. To this day that is the best and most fun league content made. 6 years went by if I'm correct and nothing's changed. Thank you and cheers man!
@gerrymilgarcia73002 жыл бұрын
Why is the video so short? I want more! Please release the next video soon. Also welcome back it’s good to see you again.
@brammutje152 жыл бұрын
the amount of research you put in videos is insane. this video reminds me of the " High Score" docu series on netflix very in depth research filled with nostalgia and footage. you are a great gaming storyteller gbay
@gbay992 жыл бұрын
Thanks man I appreciate that
@Elizabeth-bk9vm Жыл бұрын
Yeah and they even went as far as to include the voice of mario as the narrator
@DruNature Жыл бұрын
I played starcraft when I was 10 years old in 1998 and I played Dota on WC3 before league was a thing. Then I played League in S1 and S2. I played some overwatch when it came out and I was watching Gbay since 2015! It's crazy how things change, Im about to have my first kid in March. I cant help but feel very nostalgic watching these last few Gbay uploads. Oh I wanted to say how much my friends and I played 3v3 and Dominion, definitely the most fun I had ever playing league. Poppy was so OP at 3v3 back in the day, solo 1v2 all day!! I even played the new twisted treeline when Elise came out, man I love elise in 3v3!! and olaf... man i digress.
@mihamelavc98702 жыл бұрын
A new vid from Gbay99? This is how you know it's a good day
@PvtPikman2 жыл бұрын
Me, 2 days ago; "Wow I haven't seen a Gbay video in a while, wonder how he's doing?" Gbay, 3 days ago: *posts video* Glad to see you back, my dude.
@DrJimmy932 жыл бұрын
He's back! Missed you lad, hope you're well
@metiupapluch Жыл бұрын
The crazy thing is that despite all the mods released in these games, the mod that managed to become a standalone game is just a fan's work created in dota2 editor - Dota chess, which became Dota Underlords, and which Riot turned into Teamfight Tactics
@THEPINGPONGPLAYER17 Жыл бұрын
You should make a doc about the journey of Start Horn Royal Club/Royal Never Give Up and their mad ups and downs. Such an interesting one, would love to see it as a video of yours!
@DoctorHoatzin2 жыл бұрын
It's good to see you posting again.
@mortercl56722 жыл бұрын
damn that cliffhanger at the end, you've done it again Gbay, yet another great video.
@Tri7on2 жыл бұрын
Absolute banger. Been watching you since season 6 :3 not all your docs hit my interest but they are all extremely well done!
@Gone_rogue2 жыл бұрын
Glad to have you back OG League KZbinr.
@lombiolof2 жыл бұрын
ayo why did this not appear on my subs or recommended until now? cmon youtube its a new banger from gbae99
@benjaminknode62682 жыл бұрын
I am on vacation for the next full week.....I shall watch this when I'm back. A Gbay video is always welcome.
@TheGarfield1337 Жыл бұрын
I remember Bloodline Champions. This was soooo good! Extremely underrated imo
@catinho97052 жыл бұрын
This deserves million views
@G0Ri11a2 жыл бұрын
GBAY happy to see content from you
@julyyyyifyable Жыл бұрын
that one League ad at 6:39 is savage
@vincenta18862 жыл бұрын
It is amazing to see the process from game back then to the game nowadays, from graphic to device u play on
@hunzea22 жыл бұрын
Nothing quite stimulates me like a Gbay99 upload +1 Like
@username-ql8ox2 жыл бұрын
There's also one small bit of information that helped League become incredibly popular and that's them coining the term "MOBA" Before League, during the DotA days, people didn't really know what to call the exact experience you get from playing it. The closest people can get to explaining it is a "single unit ARPG". That's also why the term "MOBA" or "Multiplayer online battle arena" doesn't quite literally fit the League or DotA experience, because it was mostly a marketing move. But it helped! With it's own genre name it helped a ton in spreading the word
@E_Clip2 жыл бұрын
Well there was no need for such a term, Dota was the name of the game and the genre at the same time. Obviously that changed as more similar games started popping up because it necessitated the need for a name of the new genre. When the term Moba started getting popular around the time LoL came out, Valve tried to insert their own genre term but it didnt catch on: ARTS or Action Real-Time Strategy.
@xTonicWaterx2 жыл бұрын
Holy this is gonna be a big video I can already tell. I've been watching you since you started practically, first video I saw was your 10 Tips and Tricks video for League of Legends and then your art of war Video Just wanted to say I'm so glad you found your niche after so many years and you stuck with KZbin, thanks for the content and good luck in the future PS: When I think of you, Yorick is the first Champion that pops in my head , not Irelia
@Rxelik2 жыл бұрын
god i missed you. Welcome back!
@kingflumph59682 жыл бұрын
It always feels kind of surreal looking at the history of League of Legends and other things of similar age. It feels like league has existed for so long, but all this was happening while I was in elementary and middle school, and I'm not that old haha. Crazy to think that something so big and influential is younger than me. As always, love the content Gbay!
@abunja2 жыл бұрын
What also helped the genre to shape as a MOBA we all know today is that hero arena mods are popular back then, be it FFA PvP or Co-Op, as well as mod pop culture character models. Be it from anime, cartoon or comics. So it's to no surprise that the iteration of AoS in WC3 which is DotA is ironically focused heavily on hero battles rather than "defending the ancients."
@nickfleiwer52722 жыл бұрын
I honestly cried when he mentioned the 3v3 map 😭😭😭
@21Light122 жыл бұрын
Omg i cant believe he brought up the adventure time moba i remember playing that on cartoon networks site and it was a banger
@theedgiestofcircles58102 жыл бұрын
love seeing you back man
@QuangMinh-kd1bn Жыл бұрын
League of Legends is not just a game, it’s a whole universe with very rich lores and interesting characters
@samisuhonen9815 Жыл бұрын
A huge part I think is the cinematic side, and the E-sport scene. I think league is still relevant because it managed to adapt and stay appealing. Like no joke, KDA, Arcane, and the seasonal trailer animations have gotten SO MANY new players into the game. I personally know three friends who never would have touched league, but one of them, a KPOP fan got into the universe through KDA. Two watched Arcane and wanted more of the universe, so they binged all Riot cinematics. And after that they downloaded the game. The E-sports scene is also super hype and very healthy. Pick 'em is a huge thing that makes people also more interested. Predicting the outcome of the games and competing with your friends over the best luck and predictions. The trailers and songs they make for the worlds? So hype it makes non-league players get chills. Like any time I have quit League, I get a youtube recommendation for the worlds or seasonal trailer... and I'm back to patching LoL. And I think the draw of league is really in the name: legends. What draws people to football? Messi, Ronaldo, Zlatan, etc. It's legends. Little boys wishing to be like those legendary players. And league has that. When we played as kids, if someone made a huge outplay, everyone yelled shit like "FAKER WHAT WAS THAT". If someone went to do a desperate backdoor play, everyone called him xPeke. A sick Lee Sin play? That was Insec. What makes League so hype, is the possibility of huge game changing outplays. The adrenaline and recognition. You can play 10 games of absolute misery, just for the huge rush of carrying a game and outplaying three people alone. Especially when you play with friends and everyone who is dead is watching in suspense and starting to cheer louder after every juke, skillshot, and kill. League also made a huge learning curve and new player improvements. They did this by improving their casual game MMR and smurf detection. I'm saying this because I have friends with at least 5 smurf accounts that all end up playing against other clear smurfs and plat+ mmr enemies. Meanwhile a friend's girlfriend made a new account and got the cutest noobs in her games. Right until we decided to join her and brought our MMR enemies into the game. Also all the comeback mechanics? Objective bounties, shut down bounties, decreased gold gain from stomping, catch up experience. All of that makes the game less snowball.