Stephen Fry exposes real reason Musk and Bezos are trying to get to Mars ‘We’re DOOMED!’

‘Musk and Bezos and people are wanting to go to Mars, they know the Earth is absolutely doomed!’
Stephen Fry delves into the philosophy of Longtermism.
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[@spud2go]

“The planet is fine. The people are fucked.” ― George Carlin

[@suprememasteroftheuniverse]

Two фld їd їот₴ mumbling about things they don't understand.

[@davidedemurodominijanni9889]

The Earth won't even notice we mankind has departed gone, dead... By the way... technology is not the cause to blame, we human beings are and we better stop making up excuses. Mankind invented gods and religions and cults... which are the biggest excuses mankind has ever come up with.

[@bakkels]

@@davidedemurodominijanni9889 Earth, nature, or whatever you want to call it: it will always sort itself out. If there's too much of a certain species of animal, there'll be a new disease to tidy it all up. I don't necessarily applaud it, nor would I want to die from such a disease, but it's nature. You can't fight it. It's just how it is. It's just like Carlin said, Earth will be fine. It's almost disingenuous of us. We say we want to 'save the planet', but it doesn't need saving. Stopping climate change is only for our own good.

[@jonsnow3521]

atheists r that way because they havent done the research, nor explored, while many r simply 'angry' at how could god allow bla bla. This is ignorant of the bible's teachings, that humans have free will. period. Atheists believe man is the center or top. Rubbish. Thats socialist philosophy in disguise. A 100% failed ideology to boot. I have seen numerous research, & experienced more than enough 'otherworldly' things to know, not hope or wish, something bigger than us exists. And im an analyst by trade using science. Many people became a believer in an almighty once becoming a physicist, stating the probability of the immense complexity & perfection & order of this universe occurring by chance is next to impossible. @@davidedemurodominijanni9889

[@bb5979]

Its a misconception to think the planet is invincible though. We have only ever detected 8 asteroids before they impacted, we are also vulnerable to a lot of other rogue phenomena that could end all life on earth as if it was nothing. People fear mother nature but father universe is far more frightening.

[@paulmarden3301]

Whoever came up with the idea of letting the kittens do their own thing, needs a raise. Bravo!!!

[@Yourmission9]

I know! They’ve got the holy trinity going on there with the two comedic giants, kittens, and nuns

[@TheMusan970]

the nuns man the nuns 🤣🤣

[@feonor26]

@@TheMusan970 So typical John Cleese, just put something absurd in the background 😂

[@jonathansteadman7935]

2 old chaps, nuns, kittens playing, and a man in a bowler hat...........it's like there's a Python/Blackadder sketch somewhere there.

[@3lth]

Absolutely delightful watching kittens playing in the background.

[@bradcrowe668]

Who does not love these cats having a full-on brawl during this interview 😂😂😂❤

[@alanhall2795]

what's with the nuns?

[@JonDoe-zi3mh]

So incredibly cute. Love them.

[@meziahdanieljolley8842]

@@alanhall2795 Right....nuns drinking wine... inquiring minds want to know.

[@suzetteccc]

Weird pub...🤨

[@veronicastewart7239]

Is that a raccoon on the chair?😊

[@mybachhertzbaud3074]

We here in America have the importance of work, pounded into our heads even as a toddler. "What do you want to be when you grow up"?🤔

[@alanmusicman3385]

At a fairly early age I always told my kids that if someone asked them that, and they didn't have a real answer, just say "Happy". After all how many us really feel any vocation at age 10 or even 15? - many people I know (inc me) didnt find a job path they could really feel any degree of enthusiasm for until they were in their mid -late 20s. If only we could learn the basics then go out and get some life experience then do school in our late teens/early 20s I'm sure educational budgets would be spent far more effectively.

[@OlleLindestad]

I don't think that's an American thing. People ask that of children all over the world.

[@mybachhertzbaud3074]

@ OlleLindestad, I presume you are correct ,I did'nt want to comment past my experience.🤔

[@rosspfeffer5185]

In Australia, we tend to work to live, not live to work. The USA appears to have two main measuring sticks in life, Success and Wealth, which is quite sad really.

[@trevorclarey3336]

We work doing a job we don't like to earn money to buy things to impress people we don't know .

[@TheDownUnderDudes]

Damn... that statement holds a lot of truth when you think about.. 😳

[@richardmansbridge6310]

@@TheDownUnderDudes always love a bit of Alan Watts...shame it's misquoted...lol

[@SleepyRedbackSpider-rv6kr]

Some people do that(buy things to impress others) but not me

[@KuriosDiogenesJar]

You poor thing. You project yourself on others. I work to fulfil my lusts. Other than my closest people other people have no strong desires to be impressed by me. I do have a moderate interest in impressing me with me.

[@trevorclarey3336]

@@KuriosDiogenesJar oooh ! matron !

[@RogerEvans-dx4cs]

The Fountainhead- read it when I was young, it made me feel very miserable. After many decades have passed I still remembrr that and the book still sits on my bookshelf, looking at me! Loved the tsunami analogy- what a pleasure listening to them both.

[@user-BahHumbug]

Best new Programme. Thank you GB News, I thoroughly enjoyed it. More Please.

[@Gary-Seven-and-Isis-in-1968]

What a wonderfully deep thinking double act. More of this is required by those of us who need more than Ant and Dec to give us a smile and something to applaud.

[@Wearethewingmakers]

Deep thinking? Really?? After mentioning Bill Gates in a positive light? We need more of this you say? GB news are getting rid of their real journalists and now we are being left with something thats not got much more value than the BBC. People need to think, thats what we need more of instead of buying narratives from peow who arent even journalists! U need to be your own journalist

[@DS-cf1zc]

It certainly more entertaining than the current round of tripe our TV licence pays for - I wish I could opt out and just watch something more cerebral. Except - the other TV channels can only be accessed if I am paying the licence for the minimal few.

[@Gary-Seven-and-Isis-in-1968]

@@user-tg5mq8ky2y Perhaps a certain demographic are bored with listening to your working class woes. Troll Harder 🤡

[@mylescasey8914]

@@user-tg5mq8ky2y Each person has their unique privileges and difficulties in their life; No point in casting judgement when we know so little of each others' hardships

[@PrivateSi]

Transhumanists are the biggest threat to the Human Race because they're all Globalists who love National Great Replacement schemes, so the logical progression is to replace US HUMANS with GM, bionic, cyber-enhanced TRANSHUMANS.. Trans Rights will cement their social protection via Lefties, and corporate mass marketing will sway the masses. As a Natural Human Racist and atheist I see the greatest temptations set to become real, with life extension tech, Heaven & Hell being made (virtually) real, superpowers for superpowers. We HUMAN won't stand a chance against the TRANSHUMAN REVOLUTION unless we start going to war against it NOW.. TRANS RIGHTS MUST NEVER BE ALLOWED.

[@uddiptalukdar]

wow! the depth of the discussion!

[@moto_ronto]

John Cleese's impression of an old guy is sheer comedic genius...

[@calvinmasters6159]

I was convinced. Oh wait, he's 84.

[@Susan_F]

He’s still great.

[@BunnyDarko]

John Cleese is just pure genius 💓

[@JohnBurman-l2l]

It's the wailing laugh.

[@jd12v07]

not really, he's ancient 😂

[@MyKnf]

Two of the GOATS on GBN. goodbye MSM channels.

[@giovannip.1433]

Great show. Having news media which delivers information vs propaganda is a breath of fresh air in this world we have today.

[@jimbob-robob]

GBNews not propaganda?? 😅

[@ab8jeh]

GBNews? You serious?

[@MrPhotodoc]

Americans deplore the poor yet the poor know damn well who the miserable ones are.

[@thegrey8643]

Ethics is fine, having a ministry of truth is a bad idea.

[@PrivateSi]

Ethics need to care about our own Ethnics first and foremost or they're just more horrible ethics.. The Left's 'ethics' involve the mass invasion of a tiny island, genocidally, purposefully proudly aimed at wiping out the native population. The Left were the real Covidiots, they supported yet more policies that crapped on us English Natives of Little England. Lefty Tories into uber-centralised Authoritarian state control, in bed with hyper-corps despise the separation of State and Big Business as much as any avowed Commie (spit).

[@josephwanjiku6853]

Their truth which is lies

[@johnrobertson6280]

#1984

[@_melvonty]

Fire the false elites = IGNORE THEM!! Fair isn’t in a mature adult’s vocabulary…connect more, learn more, do more, be more for the lesser of us. If you’re Insecure/offended…GOOD/GROW

[@susansweeney1069]

I love the stage props running around attacking each other 😅

[@DuanneDames]

Stephen Fry is a treasure

[@theobolt250]

Maybe he looks the part, but he most cerrtainly is NOT: conceited! No, he's well informed, concerned and engaged as if he were still a young student. Respect.

[@Jimbo-z4l]

I think the idea of humanity going somewhere has 1 purpose. To give people an ultimate back of the mind reason to keep slaving away. In reality. We’re all working to run society so that rich people can enjoy their lives more

[@humanvideosponge4529]

Unfortunately, work will never set you free.

[@jamescareyyatesIII]

The greatest conversationalist of my generation.

[@ianjones6685]

There's no 'hold the front page' exposure over why Elon Musk is trying to colonise Mars. He's said from the start that in order to secure the future of the human race we must mitigate the risk of planetary extinction by spreading out to other planets. He also said that there are no viable options for this, all reachable planets being hostile but Mars is the least hostile.

[@PatrickHogenboom]

Where the heck is the rest of this discourse?!?!? I was just getting interested

[@IvanErstic-x2c]

Stephen Fry once said that Jimmy Savile held "great, great parties". He could talk about that, not about Musk and Bezos.

[@maximogomez6174]

We have to innovate because it is a matter of survival and quality of life for the family we create.

[@herpiegerbstick6808]

No we don't, people were just fine before cars and cellphones. A very very few of us innovate in an attempt to garner more money and power. The rest of us create that wealth for them by trading our time for the minimum amount of money they can give us to assemble their innovations.

[@pattygarcia3504]

Jesus Christ tells us in His word what will take place in this world He tells us what to do to enter into the kingdom of heaven we can’t take any of this garbage here on this earth with us not even our own body’s we are more than our body’s and our body’s are temporary our souls are eternal work for toward an eternity with Jesus Christ your gonna be alright if you know Christ you know you don’t have to be afraid if you knew even a glimpse of what awaits you in heaven what He has prepared for you you would be of no earthly good you would spend every waking moment with every fiber of your being trying to get to heaven it is that wonderful

[@stanleybuchan4610]

Jesus didn't do punctuation then? 😅😅

[@BestOpinionHaver]

Elon wanting to go to Mars to save himself/us as a species is not a conspiracy. He literally said it himself: "we need to become an interplanetary species if we are to survive long-term".

[@paulrudgley1682]

"we"? lol Look at how much money the Zionists make. $100,000 worth of fibroblasts from a single foreskin, now YOU know Why YOU don't have a foreskin.

[@changeagent228]

We probably wouldn't have flushing toilets if we lived within the limits of naysayers. Historically many things were claimed to be impossible before they were achieved.

[@snorttroll4379]

Use the word conspiracy correctly. The sausis and some others conspired to bring down the 911 towers and did the anthrax attacks against the senators that were against the patriot act

[@DreadNawght]

​@@kowmangbeltalowda7584 L

[@jeffpope7811]

Rubbish why would we leave a perfectly good planer? Mars can wait OCEAN'S CAN'T CLEAN UP THIS PLANET!!!

[@JasonJackson-wq3vt]

Love the combination of good knowledge in a nice exchange of ideas along with the humor both of these men have brought throughout their careers and lives.

[@CZpersi]

They are rich here on Earth. Whom are they going to exploit on Mars? Rocks?

[@barney992]

Michael Collins the astronaut said we go into space to see , and to discover basically. Since the first creature crawled out of the swamp we've been exploring .

[@frgv4060]

Ridiculous. No matter how we f*ck this planet, it will be always better than Mars, no matter how underground you have to be. 😂

[@justdriveon]

The “bookends” of nuns behind Stephen are a nice touch. 😂

[@chuletaization]

When John Cleese understands that smoking indoors poisons the air for others he'll understand.

[@Teenagegoogoomuk]

We'll be talking to heads in jars in the future.

[@RobKandell]

They want to go to Mars in order to emulate their hero, Vilos Cohaagen.

[@danremenyi1179]

Yes. The earth is doomed. That must be right. But doesn't everyone know that already.?

[@mikebrown834]

Cats, nuns, a nice rug. And a bit of a chat.

[@Andy-we9fe]

God bless Darrien

[@jemormaypa4005]

Wait, am I wrong or is that the guy who played Lancelot in the movie Monty python and the holy grail??? Hahaha

[@Chad-k8i]

When stealing everyone's tax dollars fails to impress the public; tell them all a big scary lie to keep them in place...

[@Taegreth]

"The real reason" as if it was kept secret? Musk has already said that's one of the reasons. Partially because of the looming threat of nuclear war. No matter how you spin it, it just makes sense to try to pursue inter-planetary sustainability for humans, if you want humanity to have its absolute best chance at avoiding extinction.

[@elmafudd9703]

Don't keep your eggs in one basket.

[@richardextall2002]

No species lives forever. They come and they go.

[@plebjames]

"Work is more fun than fun" - I guess Noel Coward wasn't an Amazon driver

[@seattlegrrlie]

Yes, but 90% of the jobs are things we don't like to do but need be done and we should be compensated for it and have time off to do enjoyable things.

[@oldtimers6460]

Two individuals that they have tried to silence because of their keen insight on what is happening.

[@truthseeker7794]

I think you mean two idiots who don't know what they're talking about.

[@guymercier627]

Beautiful exchange... can't get enough

[@doyourownthing]

Great conversation to be part of

[@sids48]

Bill gates a thoughtful man😂 yeah THOUGHTS 💭🤔 on how to kill us😂

[@madcow3235]

I feel you man, one big tsunami of advancement and we will ether raise or fall. Thanks for speaking about it.

[@SteabhanMacGR2]

The best part of this new Holodomor is when these people realise they are joining us..

[@noutram1000]

…at least someone’s thinking ahead about potential ‘humanity showstoppers’ and doing something about it, not just talking.

[@georgianasalter]

They wont invest in their own earth, they invest in Mars-?

[@wildmanmike100]

Love it. And isn't all tied together by busy work, which John observed and relates to Puritanism. Is it a surprise that all the big tech companies are American? If only they were taught how to enjoy the present, perhaps the world is a much happier place?

[@JohnDoe-uk6si]

Humans ain't going to Mars

[@chrisjessee9789]

Nuns and cats, how could this be more British?

[@chrisMthepoet]

The real problem is not work but leisure. Top executives in the USA get two weeks holiday a year and take 14 long week-ends. As a senior vice President of Lockheed once said to me "If I took 5 days holiday together, my desk would be cleared when I got back. They would figure if we can do without him for 5 days we can do without him altogether!" And the Americans think they abolished slavery!!

Given that he was a senior vice President of Lockheed there can be little doubt that they could do without him altogether.

[@coolioso808]

That's a problem of capitalism and private business. Their goal is to max profits for shareholders and infinitely grow, even the higher up management positions who don't hire themselves are forced into being hyper productive or risking being let go. In a sane world, Lockheed wouldn't exist because they are a military equipment war machine company and should be obsolete in a peaceful world. But any other useful company would be a worker co-operative, co-owners from top to bottom, so each person is a contributing worker and has a say in how the industry runs. If businesses aren't worker co-ops, they could be government funded, but locally administered sectors like for healthcare, education, infrastructure and energy.

[@MarkFarm]

If they think that they they abolished slavery then they are wrong on many levels.

[@janetpattison8474]

I agree, Slavery is not abolished by a longshot. I gave up 25 years of my life to nonprofits were nobody actually gave a hoot, & lactually CEO’s didn’t ycare to know what I did. A coworker in the field said “no good deed goes on punished. At demanding jobs, I ignored my health for years , w/ zero time for self-care. So yes, we all become slaves of corporate America in order to have the nice car the nice house, the nice clothes and money in the bank and impress the neighbors perhaps for many people.

[@TimothyCHenderson]

@@janetpattison8474 Checkout nonprofit boss if you haven't already (Nicole Daniels). She does a great job at bringing the horror to life.

[@sassulusmagnus]

The good news: "Yay, we made it to Mars." The bad news: "Being here totally sucks."

[@CamMcGinn1981]

Technically, if the dome is breached, it totally blows. 🤣

[@davidhollenshead4892]

Colonizing the moon makes more sense as at least the soil of the moon isn't poisonous....

[@josevilas4927]

Bad news too: No everybody is allowed to go there. So we better take care of our lovely earth. It is worthy.

[@mozzy76]

Mars is like a desert, and the bad news is that there is no oxygen at all. I prefer the "doomed" Earth

[@particle_wave7614]

That’s why Mars is the backup plan, not the main plan, for survival

[@Rossboe1]

Problem is 80% of people are forced to spend most of their week for most of their lives doing something they do not like at all.

[@Probabilityislife]

That's capitalism and consumerism someone has to do it.

[@Rossboe1]

@@Probabilityislife Yep so opt out of consumerism and live minimal.

[@Probabilityislife]

Why are you telling me that lol, My reply hardly warranted instructions for life ? I know for a fact I am living more minimal than you here in Phuket, Thailand. @@Rossboe1 So if you're going to say what problems exist, try providing some solutions.

[@Anicius_]

Like studying for college or ar universities? I guess this is why they march in ignorance with the jihadists

[@tarawaukeri8928]

​@Probabilityislife the solution was provided. Apparently you don't like it

[@jackbotman]

"We are building sand castles with our backs to the sea" - Stephen Fry

[@JamesPickering-s2l]

Brilliant!

[@philbutcher6959]

He is full of such cliches that say nothing, true.

[@thedukeofnuts]

@@philbutcher6959 A cliche is something that is not original.

[@philbutcher6959]

@@thedukeofnuts Do you often type unsolicited dictionary definitions? Thanks, I suppose.

[@phildad4900]

What he's saying is we are building our civilisation with little awareness of its impanding destruction. Insightful and original.

[@EnglishPolishOnline]

I love it when John's eyes light up when he's listening to Fry - there's some childlike joy and curiosity in John that's inspiring. Both these guys are awesome and they inspire me to read a lot - it's so much fun!

[@johngriffin3309]

It's like he's the opposite of Jimmy Fallon

[@ichangedmyself4362]

Childlike, oh my yes.

[@archbishoprichardforceginn9338]

Yes

[@francoisbouvier7861]

Cleese's mind is going a million miles a minute. We can't even imagine what he could be conjuring up. Just a simple carpenter feasting on their wonderful conversation.

[@zerogo40]

It's like they attended a university for smart people, funny that.

[@danjeory3659]

What an astonishing video. I wasn't expecting a discussion of humanity's impending doom to be complemented with kittens or nuns. But then again, it's peak Python.

[@natmanprime4295]

thats right

[@IncompleteTheory]

Yeah I kinda missed the astronaut and the viking ;-)

[@jinz0]

Where are they lol?

[@mumiemonstret]

@robertstallard7836 There's definitely a mongoose in the foreground at 6:11, but probably ferrets or something on the table... Anyway, the most British talkshow anyone could imagine!

[@krashd]

"Eeee, I want to buy some cheese, like!"

[@briang9356]

2 brilliant old school gents.. THIS is whats missing in society...one speaks..the other LISTENS.. No screaming...no shouting down...no patronising..no threats of cancelling... Its a pleasure listening to these two 'old boys'...

[@macswanton9622]

When John and Stephen chat, I perceive the generation gap as it was in the 60's. They're great pals, quite past airing their differences. I'm a month older than Mr. Fry.

[@dappatrades]

100% sir

[@carolleenkelmann3829]

I can remember when these two old codgers were young.

[@myriamickx7969]

And they are both well read and have education.

[@BrianSmith-vl7xu]

​@@carolleenkelmann3829fry and Laurie

[@KarmaKittyFubarZen]

Kittens and nuns! What a fabulous compliment to Stephen and John philosophizing. Delightful!

[@jonaseggen2230]

What a good band name

[@WhoAmEye_WhoAreEwe]

@@jonaseggen2230 Nun's Kitten(!)

[@donaldbesetting5408]

Complement* But, yes, the kittens and nuns are jolly good fun!

[@Paul-kn4ez]

Pretentious.

[@fw1421]

People that love their work are so lucky. Most people don’t love their work,they are just doing what they have to to make a living.

[@TheMagnusGaming]

Lucky yes, but there is far more to it than that. I love what I do, but it took years of college (Which i paid for and worked throughout), years of doing jobs I hated, tons of developing my skills and learning how business and work truly work to end up where I am now. IT was no easy road. I imagine most people do not want to or cannot expend that much time and energy to get the reward of a job you like/love. EVERYTHING in life is a tradeoff.

[@senben9180]

I love my job, super healthy, pleasant, my own boss

[@ove1knobody495]

Happiness is simply a state of mind. As a young soldier I was bullied into cleaning everything. A corporal once kicked a scrubbing brush out of my hand as I wasn’t scrubbing the floor hard or fast enough, he replaced it with a toothbrush and told me once I had finished scrubbing the floor I should scrub the toilets and cubicle panels as well. Several hours later after the corporals final inspection the corporal complimented the quality of my work. As a reward I only had to run 5 miles before breakfast instead of the usual 10! This kind of military brain wash conditioning left me with a sense of worth and pride over any task (no matter how demeaning) I have ever undertaken in my successful life. The main reward has been good physical and mental health, wealth and happiness. The best discipline is self discipline. Happiness comes from within one’s self. Any sad dark dirty corners in one’s life can be cleared, even with a toothbrush.

[@DaveSimkus]

It doesn't make sense that a human born into a modern society, against their own will, doesn't have guaranteed basics to always fall back on. We should have a guarantee of some sort to have a little money and a simple place to live no matter what the circumstances. A welcome package for being here, as a human.

[@senben9180]

Amen, took words out of my mouth. Wouldn't cost nearly anything but will never be implemented because 99% of people havd no heart including the socalled lefties that are in charge of cities worldwide, they're all the same conserv lefties libs

[@Cirothecarius]

I can't imagine our American celebrities having a conversation like this. I don't even know if our intellectuals talk like this anymore, either.

[@sevendegrees]

Stephen Colbert, John Stewart, Meryl Streep and Cher are both very intelligent.

[@bvm3925]

There are many many American celebs who are intellectuals, like Steve Martin who has a philosophy major from Cal State. But would you rather sit and listen to him talk about the nature of reality, or would you rather watch him do a hilarious stand up routine?

[@LaPtaVerdad]

Look at peterson and musk Is similar with weird accents and some interrupting between them My theory: ego is way too fragile nowadays

[@littleripper312]

I think that says more about you than the Americans.

[@SimonClementsHawes]

​@@sevendegreesFour people are both intelligent?!

[@jamesbarbaro2080]

What a jewel of a conversation. It adds weight to the argument that good comics are the best observers and analysts of society. I would love to see a regular podcast of these two.😄

[@holeshothunter5544]

but I'm bored to death with podcasts. I don't want more They're the return of Radio.

[@JamesPickering-s2l]

I love the part where Fry paints his picture with his Tsumsmi metaphor, and casting humanity as beach dwellers then Cleese cuts to the chase with 1 statement. Briliant!

[@aliwaheed906]

@@JamesPickering-s2l Oh that was just superb, i'll be using that metaphor everywhere I go

[@CCCoNeTiMe]

Are you serious? Fry is an esatblishment shill of the highest order. An utterly reprehensible individual.

[@personal-qs6dz]

@@holeshothunter5544 what are you talking about? radio was great

[@MrSkunky2009]

The true essence of where we are is simply this... Greed of the few... Power in the hands of maniacs... Lies to the many !!!

[@demogorgon4244]

greedy people get shiz done. lazy people watch disasters happen. will happened before, will happen again. this is the norm.

[@MrSkunky2009]

@@demogorgon4244 Avoidable though...

[@demogorgon4244]

@@MrSkunky2009 evil greed eventually wins. avoidance is possible only temporarily. see history of human kind.

[@FosterZygote]

One of the common myths taught to U.S. schoolchildren, and still believed by far too many adults, is that the Puritan Pilgrims who settled in Plymouth were seeking religious freedom. They may have been seeking freedom from other Christian groups, but they had no interest in tolerating religious beliefs differing from their own. Only four decades after the establishment of Plymouth Colony, Puritans in the Massachusetts Bay Colony hanged four people for the "crime" of being Quakers.

[@Monkey-fv2km]

This holds true across many aspects of society, many people seemingly standing for freedom only do so because their own freedom is restricted, and what they really want is to be the ones on top telling everyone else what they can and can't do.

[@timecowx]

The Puritans of old are the Fundamentalists of today. Fundamentalists don't want religious freedom, they want religious dominion, and they have cleverly just used the term "Christian" and leave the word fundamentalist off of it most of the time. They want people, especially Christians to believe the fight is for all Christians, (in the US) and that all they want is freedom from (manufactured/imagined) persecution, when they are in fact trying to make THEIR flavor of Christianity the official religion of the US and turn us into a Christian Saudi Arabia. Look up "The Wedge Strategy". They are playing a long game, getting fundamentalists into high up positions (for example the Supreme Court) and slowly turning their backwards beliefs into the law of the land. My own belief is that the Corpos who are truly in control of the country encourage this, largely because fundamentalists are anti-education and anti-science, leaving most of their adherents very uneducated, easily controlled zealots, I.E. the perfect workforce willing to accept their lives at or below the middle class. Religion is a cancer on the species, but people like Musk, Thiel, Bezos, and perhaps more importantly the ones who's names are rarely heard behind oil, pharma, etc., they are the aggressive malignant tumors. Even saying it sounds like conspiracy nonsense, but I can't find anything that shows this to be wrong. A very few wealthy people at the top are willing to let the world (literally) burn just to increase their already obscene amount of wealth, and religion is happily helping them keep the masses quiet. Now if you will excuse me, this tinfoil hat is starting to chafe...

[@millepill]

@@Monkey-fv2km And that is the fundament for fascism.

[@faysitler1211]

No I think you're the one that's wrong my friend but you keep telling yourself that. They did leave for religious freedoms but then they got here and turned into assholes

[@FosterZygote]

What evidence do you have that the Puritans ever wished to establish freedom of religion for all? That's a rhetorical question, because there is none. One of their biggest problems with living in Holland was that they found the relative religious liberalism among the Dutch to be a threat to their own fundamentalism. They may have been fleeing religiously intolerant assholes who had more political power, but they themselves were very much religiously intolerant assholes in their own right long before they set out for the American continent.

[@pmleffers]

The more I watch this interview the better it gets, "oh look Stephen Fry and John Cleese!, oh look nuns!, oh look cats!, oh look kittens!!! oh look a stuffed ferret!".... it just keeps going and going...

[@TiagoCavalcanti-ji6hu]

Exactly my thoughts, lol. Cheers !!!

[@sarahcourtney8066]

Yes! What’s with the nuns etc, where the heck are they? The mystery!

[@jinz0]

Wtf lol

[@ShannonRamos]

Show me your friends and I will show you who you are. Shoutout to the Transhumanist, the WEF, and UNSDGs! They both basically made the Yuval Noah Harari sales pitch for depopulating humanity and then hiding out in a luxury bunker.

[@commandingjudgedredd1841]

But no Norwegian Blue Parrot

[@luarfurness]

Corporations are not focussed on ethics; this is ludicrous! It's profitability that matters, make no mistake.

[@thaipixie]

Yes and they hire liberal arts BS'ers to push DEI and ESG drivel which helps them get "unethical investors" which ups the stock price and the Bonuses...

[@hans-joachimbierwirth4727]

Fry's superficiality has always been astonishing. Never understood how such an idiot can have fans.

[@Showmetheevidence-]

Yup!

[@zedooncadhz]

They're actually very focused on diversity equity inclusion because of investor ratings. You must have noticed this? They're still profit driven so they say all these things but still fire people at the drop of a hat in America when things get bad. You'd think they'd want to work on workers rights if they're flying these flags about caring about people. The problem is, you've got Facebook and Google wanting to censor hate speech which is wrong because of the question - WHO DECIDES WHAT IS HATE SPEECH. So hearing Fry talk about it in such a calm and affable way is mildly terrifying to me whilst the major corporations are deciding what we're allowed to talk about

[@brigwood7658]

I had a philosopher friend who left her lecturing position to work for a major corporation (big money too) as the supposed 'resident ethicist'. In the initial brief she was told her job would basically be to 'present the ethical pros the cons of given position', the best arguments for both sides of a given dilemma, and where possible, provide them with 'the most ethical course of action' - all things considered. After which they could then made their 'big decision'. And so much for that. Firstly: nearly all the issues presented to her rarely required an 'expert ethicist' i.e. at best, they simply warranted little more that an 'intro to ethics for dummies' overview of the the positions presented'; and in the rare case where the issues were more complex and/or demanding on their time (requiring genuine effort on their part to 'fully appreciate and get their heads around' ), then it was seen as 'her failure to sufficiently communicate' the position in question. But, she told me, for the most part the supposed 'ethical course of action' was essentially a 'no brainer', clear from the outset, if even an issue to start with! Secondly: When she did provide her assessment, even if it was a 'no brainer'/'clear form the outset' (etc), it turned out to have 'little to no' bearing on their actual decision! I.e it was had already been made (was never up for debate to start with), the wheels already in motion - after which they would wheel her out to 'do her thing', they could then 'tick the box' and then say "our decision on such matters is ethically informed". Needless to say, she left the 'real world' and returned to the tower.

[@s10m0t10n]

Musk and Bezos are welcome to their fantastic adventure to Mars but seem to have missed the obvious: So far, this planet is the ONLY one on which human kind can live, so every breath of oxygen, morsel of food and drop of water has to come from Earth. Maybe their fortunes would be better spent making this world better than trying to colonize another.

[@gkw9882]

If humanity is to become a space faring civilisation, then someone has to make a start.

[@s10m0t10n]

@@gkw9882 Who decided that humanity needs to go anywhere else? We haven't yet proved to be anything but mediocre stewards of this planet which, as I said, is the ONLY one we know we can live on. Establishing a colony on another planet is well beyond our reach for the foreseeable future and the billionaires engaging in their expensive p*ssing contest is not helping.

[@mr_koko2070]

Well, if a giant asteroid hit Earth - that would be it for humanity, if nobody settles somewhere else. Besides, you need to start somewhere, like how do you imagine that this could be someday achieved without even trying and starting somewhere?

[@mr_koko2070]

And there is a lot of Co2 on Mars, which you can convert to oxygen (have no idea how, chemistry is not my thing, but you can). And there is plenty of water in the poles and underground. 🤷

[@Mr_G_in_Alba]

"The earth will shake us off like a bad case of flea's" said George Carling; and as Billy Connolly put it; "the earth is fine, its us humans that are fkd"

[@bradkaral1188]

Yeah, lovely. Except the research is showing that if all of us die, the earth will die as well. So much for that theory.

[@stanleybuchan4610]

​@@bradkaral1188What research?

[@Mr_G_in_Alba]

@@bradkaral1188 Humans, we have that tendency.... To over evaluate our own significance..... That was George Carlings point.

[@IchGukNurZu]

@@stanleybuchan4610CO2 if the CO2 level falls below a certain level plants will die.

[@mikimoto99]

I think you mean George Carlin.

[@graxxor]

Pure class... Could listen to these absolute gents for hours without tiring.

[@curtisrobinson7962]

True, but I would need a potty break.

[@philbutcher6959]

God help you.

[@curtisrobinson7962]

@@philbutcher6959 I can take a wee all by myself, thanks very much. I mean what is God going to do, help me shake it?

[@graxxor]

@@philbutcher6959 ">> god help you." Any particular god you've got your mind on? Amun? Nanahuatzin? Thor? Chup Kamui? Set? Perun? Ares? Sarutahiko? Mars? I'm not particularly partial. lol.

[@AntithesisDCLXVI]

@@graxxor How about Love (1 John 4:8, 1 Corinthians 13:4-8)? Don't worship Power (1 John 5:19) like the rest of this Deceived world.

[@LuzdoSol00]

Have i just saw two little cats playing ? Or i need my glasses. 😂

[@johnrandall125]

Nah, you saw 'em OK. Did you notice the nuns?

[@parjau4554]

@@johnrandall125 Or the bowler hatted bank/business types from the 60/70s?

[@frankyyaggabot6222]

Oh come now; they were at least pretending intelligent discourse. Be generous!

[@readmore4342]

Just seen

[@haughie61]

Just seen

[@brianbozo2447]

So great that John has done this show and given voice to intelligence , fun and good conversation

[@StevenHaze]

I just found this and as a middle age Aussie, these two are some of my favourite UK celebrities. I want more!

[@ichangedmyself4362]

Intelligence? Which? Where? What part?

[@DeeJay-sk6ue]

It doesn’t take much to impress the vaccinated , they watch corra!

[@kellydalstok8900]

@@ichangedmyself4362 whoosh

[@andydufresne8034]

I'm a 48 year old American who's been working since I was twelve. I've hardly lived a life outside of work. All I've ever done is work, and not because I'm a workaholic. The oligarchy rules and the oligarchy mandates that you work yourself to death. Eight years ago, my company hired an American who had lived in Berlin and he told me of the wonders of work/life balance in Europe. I've been planning my escape ever since. I'm hoping to move to Germany, Denmark, or The Netherlands in about five years once I've saved enough to do it comfortably and be able to sustain myself while learning the language and establishing my new life there. Screw the oligarchy. They've already robbed me of my youth. I will have leisure if it kills me.

[@angelwingz892]

They are modern oligarchs. Corporations in the US are the US oligarchs. We work, they live.

[@deepwinter77]

12 year olds working a big problem in America is it ? I'm not skeptical at all. People use these terms like oligarchy and never defnine what they mean by them. It can't be politicians they're by definition voted into power. Then they talk about Corporations, most people work for small to medium businesses. Yes here in Europe there are more work benifits, but we still have corporatrions the same ones you have over there, & there are plenty of professions where you have laong hours and little time off, when i worked in construction during my 20s and 30s the standard typically work week was 59 hours, and often there was overtime on top of that. 80 hours was not an uncommon occurance. There are pros and cons living in Europe vs the US. There is no Utopia and there never will be because a Utopia for one person is hell for another. I'm 47 I "worked when i was a child 14 on, but it was summer jobs or part time jobs totally optional, I wanted to work and have some extra money. I don't think there's anything wrong with that. I live in Ireland btw, and also worked in different EU countries, like the UK, Spain, Germany and Austria For what it's worth there is still plenty of emmigration from Ireland to the US, Canada & Australia despite Ireland being a pretty wealthy country these days.

[@bassafarside6071]

I left the USA for western Europe 30+ years ago. You have a MUCH better chance for work-life balance over here. MUCH better.

[@deepwinter77]

@@bassafarside6071 Depending on what country and which industry, but I'm happy you are enjoying western Europe.

[@timetraveler43]

@@angelwingz892 Perfectly described.

[@fhoughloftnposdu2641]

Two of my favorite old timers. I could watch them all day discussing the idiotsyncrasies of American culture, philosophy, and the humorousness of life and humanity. Get me a link with a couple hours of them and I'll open a bottle.

[@therealbushmanpat]

Idiotsyncrasies!!! Hahahaha, I love it!

[@basilbadd1150]

Stephen Fry, John Cleese and ….. kittens- perfect 🤩

[@MrDoyley35]

Nuns too for some reason!

[@mechanic6682]

Oh wow. I didn't even realize it was him. I would have ad soon as he laughed.

[@namesake-mx9nl]

Two of my favourite Englishmen , absolute national treasures , always entertaining and interesting .

[@neesense258]

weird

[@SamuelBlack84]

I'd love to see a conversation between David Attenborough and Professor Brian Cox

[@user-DANWALKER1066]

I think this planet needs serious attention not blooming Mars!

[@vesper180]

Yes, there are those that have propagated and stirred up all these current "issues" that people are spending their time fighting about today, so that their backs are turned while the actual important things are going on behind them. Lesson for the Day: Snap out of it and Pay Attention.

[@lemonborn]

yes and no, some the things we are fighting for ARE the important things ;) are you aware this entire time there has abeen a LARGEST GENOCIDE happening on over the course of human history that NOBODY IN THE BOOKS talks about? LARGEST IN HUMAN HISTORY nobody talks about it why? 6 million jews 7 million non-jews you knew about one of these not the other! 20 million killed in war by axis 20 million killed in war by allies up to 80 total if you can streach it a ww2 up to 80 million in total says woakee paedoa wikia 60 million for da man that is stal lin.. for time? 100 million mao, all by himself! no the black book UNDERREPORTS communism dummby! [not you maybe;)] 100s million CRUSADES of CATHOLIC empire and MUSLIM WARS mind you they did "crusades" too called it something more dif in ARABIC i guess up to 200 million just for the JIIIIIIIIIIIII HAAADS! ~400 million just in marxism wars in 20th century! but PUT IT ALL TOGETHER and it is NOTHING TO COMPARE TO THE LARGEST GENOCIDE IN HUMAN HISTORY well it is like ha 500 mill so about 1/4 or way less it is IMPOSSIBLE? to guestimate exactly but estimates are from 10,000 bc to now and 500 years ago 500 years ago to now probably 2-4 BILLION ded 10,000 - nowey an we are talking about MISSING HALF OF ALL HUMAS WHO LIVED MAYBE EVEN WITHOUT ALL WARS wowwee do the math, if those babies hadn't been murdered the ones who would have reproduced would have so on.. we could have 16-34 BILLION PPL RIGHT NOW! cuz it is compounded expoential esstial LARGEST IN HUMAN HISTORY ppl think they are better than their ANCESTORS ancestors had slaves and some also did genocide but nowadays people defend this genocide possibly EVEN more than in the past wowwee you are worse than you ancestors quite possibly all of us are.. woww AWAKEtotheCYCLE.com?p

[@CleverGirlAAH]

All of those "what we call ourselves" problems came to affluence to end the Occupy Wall Street demonstrations, and then were mysteriously embraced by Obama who changed stances on the matter. We've been dealing with it ever since. Hmmm. Almost like it's the biggest distraction while controls of things that matter go unchecked.

[@bluebellbeatnik4945]

explain then.

[@FOURTEEFIVE]

@@bluebellbeatnik4945 pick a day of the year

[@johnadams2197]

Or invest in a rear view mirror for a 360 view!

[@rockintigger]

All I can say is, I’m glad I’m not a teenager (77) what have they got to look forward to 😔

[@corsoedisspysik2781]

Yeah thanks for the mess bro

[@lunsmann]

@@corsoedisspysik2781 the mess has nothing to do with ones generation. Old people are just as fucked as young people. The real, and only issue is one of wealth. The very rich are the only ones to blame for the shitfuckery we all experience every day. The cost of living crises, the housing crises, the unemployment crises etc. It's the same throughout the developed world. Many of the worst excesses I have seen are coming from Gen X and millennials, most who have inherited their wealth.

[@thewotsit]

@@corsoedisspysik2781 Yes, someone born in 1947 had a world paved before them, not a mess in sight.

[@edp3202]

​@@thewotsitchildren today don't interact person to person anymore.

[@bernielongshanks2039]

With this exciting new dawn of technology we Great apes either adapt and evolve alongside or get left behind.

[@littlecatfeet9064]

Nice to see intelligent men talking. The set is crazy, kind of love it.

[@TheNewTechnology]

Because it makes a mockery of Christianity without even bothering to make an actual joke about it. ROFL COPTER. They're soooo clever. Life of Brian, this is not.

[@littlecatfeet9064]

@@TheNewTechnology and people have the right to mock Christianity. My great aunt was a nun and would have laughed herself silly at the nuns taking shots.

[@larion2336]

@@littlecatfeet9064 That would be fine if people had the right to mock other religions. Particularly the J (who I can't even name since they have me tagged for shad0wb/ s) or the Muslims, both of which are treated like a protected class half the time.

[@Irishstew6969]

They're not that intelligent.

[@littlecatfeet9064]

@@Irishstew6969 well, where are the giants of the British intelligentsia then? The Labour Party?

[@jonathanbrowne8849]

What a joy to see these two real intellectuals converse.

[@upon-fe2720]

One intellectual. Nobody has ever thought Cleese is an intellectual, he's literally daft as a brush, always has been.

[@adamborowicz7209]

Cleese is not an intellectual. Making funny face expressions does not amount to being an intellectual.

[@DougieL]

@@adamborowicz7209 I would say that Cleese may not be considered a traditional intellectual, in the academic sense of the word, (although his initial degree at Cambridge was the same grade as Stephen Fry's BA at Cambridge.....) Cleese does however possess incredibly strong and mighty verbal and social intelligence, which has enabled him to write and co-write many important and groundbreaking pieces of comedy that have quite literally paved the way and evolved the way as humans, we look at the world. The satire and nuanced takes on politics and religion in the Life of Brian as just one example of a film, so important that it rings true today as it did when it was released. To say that Cleese is famous for making funny faces, tells me you are not up to speed with the work of John Cleese? He also lectured at Cornell for many years and was very highly regarded when he was there. Intellectual in the traditional sense, maybe not? Genius; yes.

[@AA_21861]

Yea, those two cats were really at it.

[@forlornhope7121]

Would be a pleasure to sit in and maybe add a word or two.

[@markmcallan973]

Im a boilermaker and i still love it! Im in my fifties and i love going to work! I love the problem solving the trade brings to me, the geometry the logistics problems and also the people i work with!👍👌😎👊

[@kevinmcinerney1959]

I admire a lot of people - mainly musicians. But I really envy Stephen Fry. He's at times a movie actor, tv actor, superb comedian, director, game show host, narrator. He is a brilliant debater, a campaigner, a director of a football club., has a production company, makes documentaries. He is an author both of fiction and non-fiction books. On top of all this he seems to have read everything. And he is still steeped in popular culture. Where does he find the time?

[@gurglejug627]

Incredible that these people seem to believe that employed ethicists are more than shills - nothing i've seen shows anything but corporate aims for profiteering, in practice.

[@JimC]

Ethicists are the _least_ trustworthy people because they know where all the loopholes are.

[@charlenequigley5557]

Corporations continue too profit, whilst reducing actual goods and services available too the general population. But they have to be seen to do it meaningfully, sustainably, ethically; because customers get really brassed off with virtue signalling, wokery and EDI prioritising. As long as the corporations continue too enforce their ideologies and agendas onto us, they will call their company policies any name that will supposedly calm/hoodwink the customers and keep the public on board.

[@gurglejug627]

@@charlenequigley5557 well said luv (joking) - what's 'odd' (or maybe not) is that even when people stop buying a certain product, even en masse, because of this wokist carp, they don't change anything... makes one wonder...

[@charlenequigley5557]

​@@gurglejug627It seems too me that it is part of the greater agenda, that businesses that provide "enjoyment and affordability" for the average consumer; are happily messing with the goodwill of their customer base. Is it part of a drive too erode our reliance on consumerism. "You shall own nothing and be happy". With this ideology, surely businesses have to begin winding down. But how clever too create consumer driven decline, boycotts/shoplifting/looting/ramraids etc. So you have the populace causing businesses too close down. It's not the corporations... They didn't want too lay their staff off and begin trading online put of a warehouse. It's the "over"/general population that brought about their demise. Their hands are clean and consumer choice and freedom shrinks.

[@veronicastewart7239]

We think all corporations are individuals, but people are becoming aware that they are all under one big corporation. While we're boycotting one, the other is scoring. They never lose, ever. They maneovour us to where they want us to go

[@markadams2667]

Nuns doing shots in the background 😂🎉

[@natashawatson385]

Subliminal right there

[@Leathal]

Fry living up to his ethnic background

[@ianlawrie]

Stephen Fry and John Cleese in conversation. There is hope for us GBnews.

[@Deontjie]

And then you read Hitch-hikers guide to the galaxy. Then you realize who will be allowed onto the space ships. Not the people you thought would be. Another comparison is Bill Burr's similar plan wit cruise ships. This is the only way to save humanity. Idiocracy and Falling Down tried to warn you.

[@oliverholmes-gunning5372]

Two of my favourite human beings on the planet; I feel spoiled...

[@jeffoleg4881]

​@@oliverholmes-gunning5372😂

[@skyw4278]

whoa...that was john cleese?. can he move his jaw?

[@martinez8290]

@@skyw4278 That's so cheap... One day you'll also be old...

[@elishmuel1976]

We definitely have our backs to the sea. What a great analogy, Mr Fry.

[@johneeeemarry34]

Men generally have their backs to the wall when Fry is out and about.

[@veronicastewart7239]

The tsunami will take many, but plenty are heeding the warnings to evacuate and are moving to higher ground

[@C.A.MARSUPIAL]

It's lucky Stephen Fry is so interesting because he can talk without taking a breath or pausing for hour's.😊😊

[@RasMajnouni]

Tie me Marsupial down?

[@Sammasambuddha]

Cocaine?

[@kingdomfor1]

Im 73 I haven't really ever gone to work, I was a builder , still do a little now for myself, I always maintained building houses was my hobby, it still is.

[@alanserjeant4947]

A great quote. "Work is anything you are doing when you would rather be doing something else".

[@Sammasambuddha]

Buddah says, "Hey! That's my job!"

[@johnkean6852]

Work is what you do to enhance and improve others' lives at the detriment to your own.

[@alanserjeant4947]

@@johnkean6852 Nonsense. Work you enjoy gives you a sense of purpose. It doesn't have to be for other people.

[@davidstuart4915]

isnt that then a hobby, the income being more immaterial than material?@@alanserjeant4947

[@philcollinson328]

Two of the finest gentleman on this planet were an absolute joy to watch having a chat.

[@michaelginever732]

A couple of admirably intelligent old chaps. Love it.

[@markparkes9377]

2 intelligent men conversing. Omg no diversity 🤔interesting.

[@dropperknot]

@markparkes9377 There is no such thing as an intelligent human being, clever yes, very clever. But no intelligence.

[@markparkes9377]

@@dropperknot elon musk entered the chat😁

[@markparkes9377]

@@dropperknot Jordan Peters on joined

[@madeleyinc]

They are playing the game, they are clever at devising distraction.

[@RyanStillGames]

I always ask, how are we going to go to Mars a planet which practically requires terraforming to become livable, when we can't even handle earth. We have a functioning earth that we simply need to take care of. If we can't make it work here, in an ecosystem perfectly set up for us, do you really think we're going to live on... Mars? Like come on people... 🤣

[@Mastermind12358]

A base that will hopefully develop into a colony. It'll force us to invest in technological development which will help all of humankind. Much like the Apollo era created a whole generation of scientists and engineers. A Mars mission will do the same. The average age at NASA when we went to the moon was like twenty six, think about that. The technological development that will come from creating a base and a colony on Mars will help us hugely here on earth. How to learn to live on Mars will help us greatly to live sustainably here on Earth. Space exploration is the future and it is sad how people, even today, can't see it. Despite the huge gain we've gotten from it.

[@NedKelly1967]

Great chat gentleman. Nice to see a real discussion for once , the cats were the icing on the cake 😊

[@lynnhubbard844]

baby kitties!

[@alexhamsterdam]

The kittens are beautiful!!

[@judex3226]

Fry, speaks nonsense so eloquently.

[@GrandmasterFerg]

What nonsense are you referring to?

[@latenightlogic]

I look forward to seeing your philosophy on KZbin getting millions of views soon.

[@jenA9026]

I respectfully disagree with you.

[@bear1245]

Let’s hear about your MA from Cambridge 😂

[@judex3226]

@@bear1245 You can’t learnt common sense. It appears it is something you are lacking

[@SirPaulMuaddib]

Is there more with these two guys? I would love to see and hear more.