GE2020 political debate: How will parties deal with unemployment and create jobs for Singaporeans?

[@eyeswideshut8110]

Vivian doing well is expected and he delivered. But what a pleasant surprise that the 3 Oppos held their grounds so well. Impressive improvement from 2015. The attempt to divide them by buttering up to WP & PSP did not work well for sure..lol. I have to say Dr Chee's response on the elite schools is nothing short of brilliant! PSP's refusal to be drown by PMET stats is also amazing.. 😂 how does it matter when 100K educated SG PMETs remain jobless!!! Then 1 foreigner is 1 too many lah..🤪 Good job to all 4 gentlemen! The new 2020 parliament should look like that. We'll all grow well together with such civil and sensible debates . Encouraging indeed! Let's go!

[@lydialin1122]

Well said!!!

[@laiyinquan8355]

I may be only 15 (yes, I know), but even I can see the complacency our PAP ministers gained over the years they have been in power. They have gradually detached themselves from the harsh reality that is Singapore. We keep building new airport terminals, spend billions of dollars on massive projects to attract foreigners, hold summits that uses taxpayers' money, but neglect the poor in Singapore. Remember PM Lee's 'Mee Siam Mai Hum' incident? We strive to be the best in SEA, mimicking the Swiss way of a high-end lifestyle, but that only goes for the privileged. What about the elderly, those whose family has 8 members but can only afford a one-room rental flat? What about those who make just enough to get buy, not even being able to fathom the lifestyle the rich leads. Almost every facet of life in Singapore is about money. ERP, electronic parking, GST, etc. Scrimping and saving just to be able to afford a nice casual dining meal for yourself. It really is a sad reality. Foreign talents, no matter how qualified, are not helping in the matter. While it is nice we welcome these expats to our country to work, the percentage of them in the workforce mustn't be so high. Cheap hiring costs is such a good lure for companies to hire them, honestly.

[@vicomolto123]

This kind of mentality is actually the same mentality as the Malays demanding bumiputera treatments in Malaysia when they see themselves threatened by the the influx of chinese and indian immigrants and it certainly goes against one of the cornerstone of Singapore success which is meritocracy. With the influx of foreign talent, there are downside in term of increased competitiveness be it wages or etc but the positive side is it attract more opportunities and options for locals who are deserving of it. Obviously I am not talking about those undeserved who try to demand or rather robbing from those with merit. Honestly, if you are the boss of a company, for same wages, will you hire 100 degree holder or 100 diploma holder? To add on, I cant help but to notice that the above author seem to desire communism where there are no privileged and equal share of wealth for all the people irregardless of merits.

[@talkcocklikesingsong]

IF u are really 15, then good for you for being so politically aware and not buy into propaganda. See yourself firsthand on the ground what is happening to draw your own conclusions. Keeping an open mind is key. The points u make sounds so mature, I am not sure if u are really 15 . The most important observation u make about Singapore is correct. Everything is about money, how to raise money by taxing the public, be it ERP, GST, COE etc. The number of "foreign talent" will affect you when u get into the job market . It will be a lot more competitive and career advancement opportunities will naturally be lesser or u have to fight really hard for it. Unfortunately u are not old enough to vote but keep being aware of what's happening.

[@jessiejames7492]

those who come here to work do not want to share what theyve learnt. if youre so unlucky to get a job with a foreign boss or supervisor, or colleagues, they wont teach you since youre a singaporean. theyre probably thinking' youre paid more , youre local, i am paid less, why should i teach you? and if youve in an intereveiw and the person interviewing you tellsyou' oh you are very qualified, no problem, everything is in order. we will contact you' AND the persons next are people of their race and nationality youre sure youre not going to get the job! happened to me. I was in the two above condiitions. the second one, the interviewer was s philippino married to a chinese. she told me cause i asked her. while she was interviewing me and telling me all this, she was eyeing the 2 philippinas in line next. few days later i get a call' oh i am so sorry you didnt get the jo' I said ' its alright and slammed down the phone. this is the culture nowadays. ! this is the reality.

[@vicomolto123]

@Sushi Saim It is not a big word but rather this concept of bumiputera or local protectionism is actually existed and existing in many countries and forms, present and past including present America (www.forbes.com/sites/realspin/2017/05/24/immigration-and-isolationism-weve-been-here-before/#4efad40b7f3f). To start off, you are saying the bumiputera only favor the UMNO and royal elites but do you ever heard from some of your Malaysian Chinese or Indian colleagues complaining about how absurd that they cant get to the nation good university despite performing better academically back home? I am sure UMNO and royal elites will have the means to send their kids for better oversea education. Now it is my opinion but the Father of Nation became a PM is a blessing and he did hold election on 1968 after his 5 years term expired from 1963, while i strongly believed for an entity to be efficient, there should be only one leader, let the president be a figure only (i.e. Neighbouring country Malaysia only 1 PM and no president while Indonesia is one president and no PM or US 1 president and no PM). Finally thanks James Bond for highlighting basic needs like foods should be attainable if one willing to take the cheap jobs (again I am not talking about the "nice" food or "ERP", "electronic parking" the first author lamented on). P.S.: I am not sitting on high horse as what you might have think as I don't even have "ERP" or "electronic parking" to worry yet ;)

[@anoynmanonymous8304]

Pro economic policies will always disadvantage the elderly... 老了不中用了

[@Niiflux]

Good to know that every decision made is well thought out and carefully considered.

[@edwinheng833]

Very interesting political debate and perspectives provided in the comment box. Vivian's response in the debate is remarkable and gained my respect - given the fact that he's defending against "criticisms" and "accusations" from the other three parties. Jamus was eloquent in his delivery and very intelligent in his choice of words but prompted me to think, why would someone who spent a large portion of his life overseas (note that he was only back in Singapore in 2015) want to be in Singapore politics all of a sudden? I agree that a different voice and view should be introduced into parliament to prevent a herd mentality and ensure proper checks and balance are in place going forward. However, I encourage everyone to take a step back to observe not only the bad, but also the good that was done/created by the government over the past years.

[@dankam8321]

Well done WP, show rectification measures rather than hammering the other parties. PAP will speak for the sake of saying. After vote in? Tell you that we must be prepare for technical retrenchment and encourage you to upgrade and seek another job whereby the pay is lowered.

[@tanmarc7032]

Jamus Lim joined Thirdrock in 2018 as Economist from Abu Dhabi Investment Authority where he was a lead economist overseeing economic inputs underlying tactical and strategic asset allocation for the sovereign fund’s multi-hundred billion dollar portfolio. Prior to that, he was a senior economist with the World Bank where he led a number of research initiatives on long-term economic forecast, trade and finance in the Middle East and East Asia and governance and human development in Africa. Jamus, who is also an associate professor of economics at ESSEC Business School in Singapore, graduated with first-class honours from the University of Southern Queensland and went on to graduate work at the London School of Economics, the University of California and Harvard University.

[@alexchan887]

He is a powerhouse in workers party

[@DaigoParry]

He’s a globalist. That means he will be similar to PAP, just a different package.

[@lamsunyong343]

The way he talks doesn't tally up.

[@mobyservices5080]

Dr Chee proposal is really not feasible. Few people come together to do a co-op ? Business is not about a few people coming together to do. Not everyone is cut out to be a businessman and simply throwing money at them thinking they will succeed will be wasting more taxpayers money. I don't necessarily agree with PAP but in this measure at least, they are doing the right thing. PSP francis make sense too about the foreign PMETs...

[@lydialin1122]

Really too many foreign PMETs ...we issue employment passes to them like toilet paper. I feel very sad, my uncle, a HR director has been jobless for 2 years whilst my company employ a Korean senior manager - essentially a people manager jobs which I feel many Singaporeans can easily do the job! We need to scrutinised the passes u distribute freely to foreign talents

[@annamariana8140]

My son was jobless for 6 months after graduation even after sending hundreds of resumes... He was disillusioned with the government, that even with an honours degree from a local uni he couldn't even get a decent govt job...

[@vincecarlo]

Strange, According to Vivian this is not so So where is the disconnect ? Maybe Ivory Tower 4G signal not strong enuff, need to Upgrade to Huawei's 5G 🤔

[@Niiflux]

@@annamariana8140 sorry to hear that but everyone has to go through this same phase in life, that first job is the hardest to get since you have close to no experience. There are multiple reasons why someone is not selected. Applying for the wrong job or unqualified for the job. Being bad at the interview. Bad resume. Usually a combination of the above. Personally, I think he should work in a part time establishment while on his job hunt. Not working during the interim really shows his character to the interviewer. That first job may not be the industry of choice but that was how I proved my point that I am not a time waster bum. Eventually even though I was not qualified without the required 2 years experience, I got hired because they were convince of my drive and willingness to do whatever it takes. I hope your son finds a job soon though, his approach got to be different. It is only after I started working which I eventually found out how a degree is literally a piece of paper.

[@eyeswideshut8110]

I just heard CCS told PSP in the Chinese debate that we have no bargaining chips to renegotiate CECA with India. Somehow it sounds like someone is selling us on the cheap. So now I understand....how...to...vote. Don't talk about the future when there is hardly a tomorrow. The little man on the street will not take another shot for the nation...

[@user-km2bz8iy5o]

Addison Kwek I think you’re response is the best and most considered one. There are many reasons why a business might choose to hire one person over another. This knee-jerk reaction I see in many comments of “lets blame foreigners for my unemployment” just reeks of xenophobia and deflecting blame for one’s own deficiencies to an easy scapegoat - the foreigner.

[@alfianmm]

I say the new PAP with the newbies are facing an uphill battle in time to come. The opposition is getting stronger by the year. More capable candidates now sit within opposition parties. Gone are the days when u see PAP discussing with PowerPoint slides while opposition parties use mahjong papers n marker pens. I'd be worried if I'm a PAP minister, might lose my job one day!

[@happylittlestore200]

1:40 How about the big companies? 3:10 Didn't really answer the question. Talked about taxes. 4:10 Good methods to tackle unemployment. Even offered a plan or the unemployed. 8:10 Various schemes mentioned. One needs to look it up to fully comprehend what it is.

[@6168lucky]

If government tackle well. This video will not be in KZbin!

[@jesuslovesyou1921]

I partially agree with your stance. I think 4:10 made a good solution. Stop bringing in the foreigner workers and encourage the unemployed to start businesses. That's a good plan. The worst plan was from the worker's party. And concerning 1:40 it is SMEs that are responsible for 70% of the employment according to that man. So SMEs should be the main focus according to him, since big multinational companies can survive without government interference.

[@reimondo3329]

Thanks.

[@rlsh1234]

I am disappointed that Mr Lim Tean is not invited to offer his party's perspectives of Singapore problems.

[@cliffxen5418]

there'll be more debates to come

[@ivanteo1973]

@@cliffxen5418 Suppose to be a debate and not a chit chat, isn't it?

[@ivanteo1973]

@@悟空-n5n Evidence?

[@vincecarlo]

@@ivanteo1973 New Fake Acc only 10 hrs old 🤔

[@desaturated6049]

are kidding me? Lim Tean!? this dude need to solve his own financial issue before talking about caring for Singapore.

[@jazztan9917]

If Politicians say they are out to serve the people.. pls don’t enrich yourselves w Gigantic salaries..

[@lamsunyong343]

Please their pay comensurates with their responsibilites and capability, not excessive at all.

[@sgfuture9472]

Yes! Yes! That's the way! These are the VOICES we want in the parliament! Dr Chee, Dr Jamus Lim and Francis Yuen, ALL THE BEST this coming GE! 👍👍👍💪💪💪

[@alexchan887]

Good job man i support those two also

[@albertla3331]

@Tay Jui Chuan Dearest Mr Tay, i would trust people with their heart and soul helping Singapore into a world class nation with serving the people first, there is always calculation of risk and reward and this risk is worth to be consider. after knowing WP mindset and objective i will take the risk.

[@TyroneBeiron]

As long as it is 'cheaper' rather than more costly for businesses to hire foreign talent, it simply makes economic sense for lower cost talent to be hired... The key thing is for Singaporeans of any age, especially if they are older, to retain their careers or remain employable. No one wants to hire a Singaporean who's 45 and above in spite of tax incentives, which hasn't really worked. VB is talking about something else altogether. His definition of 'unemployment' is from IRAS based on manpower in transition during a six month window before being classed as 'self-employed'. SG United hasn't proven how it has protected Singaporean opportunity for good jobs. An 'attachment' (his example) is actually quite 'exploitative'.

[@eyeswideshut8110]

It is NOT always cheaper. The key problem is, it is TOO EASY to get employment passes esp for hirings in MNCs. Unlike Australia which demands applicants to state in writing what knowledge or benefits they are bringing to Australia. Down here is free for all.

[@Paulabusa]

DR Vivian, you said the government launched the covid support grant to help Singaporeans and yet you put a household income cap of 10k (before lost of job) as a requirement knowing that pmets are the worse affected. 2 pmets in a household will easily hit this cap. Why do you look at income before lost of job instead of income after lost of job (which means more sense). As a pmet, I was retrenched and yet unable to receive the grant. Sometimes I wonder who came up with these requirements and have they thought it through before making these policies. You mention about keeping reserves for rainy days and yet when it's raining, we do not receive the support.

[@ElvinYeo]

Just out of curiosity why some 1 min 30 secs and one 4 min 30 secs?

[@chewiedecks584]

i think is cos 3x 1.5 opposition so the 4.5 mins is to address the points raised by the opposition as well as give his own stance

[@eyeswideshut8110]

This is not a good format for it did not draw out the best and worst of each representative.

[@Dragon-gl1rw]

It is like that, one eye is big one eye is small. Why waste time in such a debate? It is not a debate at all, it is a gather suggestion for the govt, good one copy, bad one later can know how to taruk the oppo.

[@wongfamily4013]

Dragon52. Well said. All animals are equal, BUT some are MORE EQUAL than others.

[@hemangsurana8736]

@@wongfamily4013 lol animal farm legend

[@lionnmaxi1278]

Singapore is not PAP and PAP is not Singapore and let's make this very clear. From past experiences, when you're unfortunately retrenched (more accurately your role is being replaced) , can PAP told the company to return you to the job or immediately find you another comparable job? Therefore, the life, jobs and future of Singaporean belong only to Singaporean and not PAP. Again this must be clear. Only Singaporean can make Singapore great again especially the life, jobs and future of Singaporean. Pioneer Singaporean have make Singapore great and current generation will strive to continue to do so.

[@eyeswideshut8110]

@GABRIELE EA your point pls?

[@悟空-n5n]

@GABRIELE EA Do You know how much other govt TAKE AWAY your CPF as "Taxes" and never give back to you ??? At least you still get to take back and use to buy house, I used some of my CPF to buy house and some keep to buy shares and these are not tax! There is no country in the world that can run a country so well like Sg with such low tax rate. I U are facing the stress of living in Sg it is not becos you pay too much CPF or income tax but you are in the wrong line and making a wrong living in Sg, go change a job or country lah, most of us are lving very well. I do pity you but you need help from within and not by PAP or other rich Singaporean to feed you.

[@Dewderp]

Adrian Lee ur making 0 sense lolll

[@dominicwee3237]

Thanks ..

[@miguelconstatine2014]

In response to an increase in unemployment rate among Singaporeans during this depression, we need to cut off foreign PMET and allow Singaporeans to fill up that gap with trainings and other essential aid to gear them for the position. Therefore, we should give others a chance to rule Singapore. If we don't try, we'll never know how good the oppositions are... No harm trying for a change. If not up to standard, we can always vote PAP back to reign over Singapore.

[@horsehorse3590]

to add a few oppo MPs will not affect PAp +80 out of 93... pappy dun try to scare off people in voting oppo...

[@eyeswideshut8110]

Sorry bruh...you are not getting the right definition of the PMET crisis...Singaporeans are squeezed out of their roles not due to lacking in skills but because it is TOO easy to get employment passes, esp by MNCs. Then they bring their entire village here and their spouses get to work here too for those in MNC positions

[@intentbillion2479]

I think VB did mention 60k foreigners lost their jobs meanwhile local unemployment rate rises by 0.1%

[@eyeswideshut8110]

@@intentbillion2479 The right question to ask is always...60k jobs lost in which segment and at which level? This moniker PMET is in itself a joke. P can earn hundreds of thousands and T can earn 10% of that. How is this a category? Employment data ranges from 20+ to 60+, how to read such data?

[@miguelconstatine2014]

@@悟空-n5n huh?

[@t.c9081]

Vivian claims he understands how demoralizing it is to be unemployed for long while! Really? What is worst than being unemployed is asking professionals to re-train in other fields at age of 40! Does he even knows Comcare only throws loose coins at the needy! Many are needy and poor in Singapore not due their fault either! As a doctor is he not aware mental illness or visible disability also an hindrance in securing a job here?! Vivian at one point says "We are all migrants" and then stated "We are all Singaporeans" . These two groups are akin to night and day! Being intimidating aggressive is as same as bullying! My vote is the party that wants to restore humanity and compassion in my Singapore, which have been lacking for decades under current party and Vivian did not convince me that is the core principal of his company either!

[@susanngin3481]

Tats why many young sporeans including old feel stressed n need to see psychiatrist at IMH. Feel stress in school work n workplace too.

[@CITYZEN.]

Ya but how are you sure that WP is gonna succeed in their policy?

[@CITYZEN.]

Some things just don't work out nicely

[@Joelhzy]

Life doesn’t revolve around one person, the world is always changing, and if ur unable to adapt to changes, or lower ur pride and re-educate urself for a better future. Then don’t go blaming others for it. The opportunity is right infront of you, and if u don’t seize it because of your own ego, that’s on u.

[@litai5013]

HALLO, he is paid $50k a month to "understand"

[@tanmarc7032]

we need this kind of voices in parliament , thus we need to send more Oppo candidates into Parliament

[@susanngin3481]

Tan Marc.....well said

[@rethoric3923]

pls dont destroy Singapore

[@personal1]

One need to watch out is Dr. Chee sharpness in his presentation, and Dr Jamus is his responses in tackling Vivian Balakkrishnan attempting to manipulate his speeches, and finally Mr Francis maintaining his position in tackling straight to the point. To sum up; SDP/WP/PSP is really a threat to PAP team.

[@supercritic100]

Agree with everything except Mr Francis feels like he's there for a coffee chat. So underwhelming.

[@personal1]

@@supercritic100 Somewhat ... maybe he is reserving his bullet for later use. 😀

[@azroyrinho]

I support dr. Chee

[@eyeswideshut8110]

His best performance to date

[@Nerismores]

Those saying how they're being biased to PAP for giving Balakrishnan more time, pls don't be so shallow ya. That's how a proper, formal debate works. First 3 speakers given time to make their stand, last speaker will rebut all 3 speakers before him and then state his stand. (Am not being biased to PAP, just speaking from my knowledge about debates)

[@da0kia]

Hi, do you have other examples of debates that are in a similar format? The ones I seen in UK debates and US presidential are pretty equal in time given to all party leaders, or even interschool debates.. As mentioned, no malice just really never seen this form of debates before

[@pacothesheep]

in a proper, formal debate, the speakers are allowed to rebut one another until there are no rebuttals to make. balakrishnan got 4.5 minutes to dissect others’ arguments, but not the other way around. it makes it seem as if his stance was the most valid, because it’s not contested. hence, uninformed viewers will be swayed to PAP’s side. this is how propaganda works.

[@Nerismores]

paco and that’s because he is representing the ruling party. He is replying and rebutting the 3 opposition parties, who are all pointing against him. And now this is why I’m saying singaporeans shouldn’t be so shallow, so quick to judge. Everyone is questioning and fighting on how it’s unfair PAP has more time. But truth is, it’s 3 against 1, of course 1 should have more time to rebut against all 3 of them.

[@pamela3134]

Nerissa Tok exactly!

[@laiyinquan8355]

@@Nerismores But the way it is formatted is like what paco said; made it seem as if PAP's arguements and rebuttals make the most sense for they were not countered by the Opposition and made it look as if they were wrong in their criticisms, ideas, concepts, etc. I rather they let an Opposition party representative speak and allow Dr. Vivian reply to said representative with the same amount of time and so on. It would make it seem more impartial and not seem as if PAP is making it seem they are right through by passing the last judgement, in that sense.

[@6168lucky]

Maybe it's me who don't get MR Vivian points. Job, jobs, jobs? Letting so many so called FT. singaporean upgraded through courses to complete? Jobs taken up by so called talent. Upgraded still no jobs. More FT coming in. I personally feel that is not the answer. PMET for FT. young singaporean graduated work under FT. Singaporean upgraded skills still work under FT. Question is how to help singaporean jobless get jobs. Street smart people, young graduated, old experienced. ???? Upgraded skills??? It's professional, Manager, executives and technical taken up. What upgrade? NUS AND NTU SINGAPOREAN CERTIFICATE NOT BETTER THAN CERTIFICATE FROM OTHER COUNTRIES? STOP TAKING IN FT. THEN CONFIRMED MORE JOBS FOR MANY TALENTED SINGAPOREAN AND STREET SMART SINGAPOREAN. GOVERNMENT IS HELPING FT REALLY RETIRED AND ENJOY LIFE IN THEIR OWN COUNTRIES. WHAT IS THE POINT? PLEASE SOMEONE ADVICE ME!

[@gha9543]

Singapore used to thrive as a Freeport for most goods on its way around the world from spices to silk is now a global centre for foreign talents to have equal opportunities in educations and career growth. Equal opportunities for all and equal wealth distributions for none.

[@aliciatung5059]

A jamus lim fan right here

[@mariamkarim8285]

The government bring foreign companies to Singapore but are they aware that these foreign companies only employed people from their countries, india company employed indias from india, phillipines company only employed phillipines and singapore companies also employed foreigners, malaysians and so forth - where are the jobs for Singaporeans? We can upgrade and reskill but what's the use when most of our jobs are given to foreigners. Singaporeans welfare are taken off - all those splendid places in singapore, I can only admire it via photos or sight-seeing and not even be there physically as it is too expensive and those places are only for rich Singaporeans or foreigners. We are poor citizens in a first-world country

[@Ccb88888]

Why did the last guy get 4 and a half minutes whilst the others got 1 and a half?

[@kamaruddinsahabudin3378]

That's because he belong to the govt party while the rest are opposition. Actually he vs the rest

[@tommyt6035]

PAP decides the rules

[@Rossotinga]

if they say last guy gets 1 hour, he will get 1 hour, because he is wearing white

[@albertla3331]

Because he is 1 party answering to 3 party question, 1.5x3=4.5

[@lifeisshortpeace7783]

That shows Singapore is not a fair and equality society.

[@compassion7243]

Foreigners are very important ...citizenship given out...tis foreign talent working in massage centre...once 5yrs they vote for u know lah ??? Ten years hand over citizenship...go back counting Singapore money...and laughing at Singaporean...pls Singaporean wake up...tis pap is not the old pap...i miss the old man...if he is around things will be different...

[@ashunknown9728]

Ya me too I miss lky pap

[@kneegear5123]

Would be nice if you could write in proper sentences and make sense

[@blegys]

@@kneegear5123 then you should improve on your reading skills, he may not have structured his words correctly. However, it's not that hard to understand.

[@annamariana8140]

@@kneegear5123 why do people think that they can become educators on a social platform... even a simpleton has a right to have a voice right?!

[@compassion7243]

Me primary 2 drop out...but i got love for my country...i am 60 yrs old...and i have contribute to singapore...what i get my CPF LOCK DOWN...SO HAVE TO WORK TILL I DIE...Maybe u are living in comfort zone...u don't understand the poor...

[@geraldinelee2184]

See who avoids the Foreign competition factor, should we be surprised or alarm ?

[@zmsaifollah]

Why opposition only given 1 min 30 sec? Everyone should be given equal amount of time to put forth their idea. This is not a true debate.

[@nicktasteless360]

pap had to answer the 3 of them

[@captaindecade4705]

This isn't really a debate but suggestions to the government.

[@cliffxen5418]

@@nicktasteless360 in other words: pap was given the chance to rebut the opposition but not vice versa

[@kneegear5123]

Nicktasteless But he didn’t reply/rebut them, instead he answered the question given in the beginning, 0:01, same as everyone

[@alexchan887]

Exactly what kind of treatment is this. But lucky got dr chee the thanos and the jamus tony stark

[@graceyh4201]

So many foreigners . And so many Singaporean cannot find jobs .. the local unemployment rate will continue to increase .

[@nobadragoon6499]

Am I ignorant or is this the only debate where one participant gets more time than the others?

[@yapnyukling9326]

I don't see we are bringing up and bringing in talents! We are too economically oriented. No balanceness in development in this country

[@henghengheng9416]

I am not interested in the argument posted but the watches worn by the speakers.

[@rashidkhan-xr5xu]

Jamus You The Men, sadly I am from Pasir Ris if I have a choice, I will humbly vote for you. 👍👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏😥👋👋👋👋👋👋👋👋👋👋👋👋👋

[@alexchan887]

Jamus my grc my man. Haha

[@horsehorse3590]

they hv to excuded jobs that Singaporean PMET could do from FT...the portal two months posting be4 company could go hire FT is not effective...company managed it by posting 3 months ahead..and go hire FT after 2 -3 months siting no suitable Singaporean available...to be effective MOM should classified FT by job category...only bring FT on what we dont have...no employment pass should be given out to FT on those we can do with with Singaporean...

[@user-km2bz8iy5o]

But how do you determine that in practice? Only the business itself can decide what is best for their own business. Is the Ministry going to have to be inserted into the recruiting departments of companies and picking and choosing candidates?

[@jeffreyng3351]

In the sixties the help of foreign investments created jobs. Both the govt and citizens worked together. The govt hard sell Singapore and the citizens worked hard.

[@supercritic100]

And when foreign companies build a branch here, they bring over managing directors and some other high ranking officers from other countries. They offer Singaporeans executive roles as well but likely on a lower paygrade. So now do we turn them away because they want to bring foreigners in, or do we accept them since more jobs are being created for locals at the end of the day?

[@biozymeasia]

PAP has 4 and half minutes. Thats unfair. They shd be given 1 and half minute too. PAP is an unfair goverment

[@wilsongoh690]

lmao. PAP had to answer 3 opposition party dumb 🤦🏻‍♂️

[@wl5305]

Bruh 1vs3 bro

[@ashunknown9728]

I really have tears I miss lky .. Now he have lhy in PSP that's make me happy. Singapore is for Singaporean not foreigners

[@marcustan5868]

Okay la don't emo

[@TyroneBeiron]

You missed a Lee, but all this while after Goh, we have had another Lee.

[@lamsunyong343]

He will not like a racist party like PSP

[@khalidmuhammad7102]

100,000 of jobs jobs jobs created by sg united for sporeans such grab food , food panda, deliveroo and others delivering apps or join PHV and choose good driver's ride hailing apps and those jobs comes with incentives

[@bobbyng6436]

Yes.....Grab jobs that pays so low but the cost of living is so high. And yet our ministers draw millions?? Why do we have such suppressed wages.....if we a first world country?

[@user-km2bz8iy5o]

Couldn’t you solve the issue of employers hiring foreign PMETs purely because they are cheaper by using the US H1B market wage testing requirement: “Employers must attest to the Department of Labor that they will pay wages to the H-1B nonimmigrant workers that are at least equal to the actual wage paid by the employer to other workers with similar experience and qualifications for the job in question, or the prevailing wage for the occupation in the area of intended employment - whichever is greater.” Can someone more knowledgeable let me know if this has already been implemented in SG? If not seems like a fix that has precedent overseas

[@randyho905]

Common lah. those self employed or registered company no matter they running their business or not gets $3000 X3 mths for those low wagers gets $1500X2 mths and support grant $800X3 mth! Mr lee said no one left behind as a singaporean! How abt the blue collar singapore citizens workers? you ppl need Documents this and that for the support i can tell you ppl the only way to proof is they bring you guys to their job site to proof that they really work. you gov transforming schools and factories to new dormitories when under circuit breaker those working day n night workers making you guys great are all singaporean the blue collar and also those you ppl have left out! think about that!

[@shellyannegoh6054]

How come the last guy got more time to speak? Is that correct?

[@jasonlok4535]

在80年代 很多新加坡人民说 政府乱花新加坡人民的钱 建造地铁 但过后也没有人说是对的 现在每个人买屋子都要靠近地铁。 那时候 政府 说做工要进 公积金 很多人说政府 没有钱 要拿人民的钱 但过后 有人拿到钱 没有人说政府替他们存这么多钱 但是很多人 拿了钱不用5年就花完 政府又要改 人民又说这是他们的钱 反对党 又说政府做错了 人民 把钱花光 是要找政府还是 反对党

[@yusofmohamed3072]

that's is correct way think about Singaporean

[@swedeturbo666]

Vivian is like Thanos...LHL has given him the stones..... but........ your new candidates reek of elitism since the 90s and we have the Ng Ling Ling exaggerating her resume.

[@susanngin3481]

Whats the use of having rainbow 🌈 qualifications or scholarship if one cannot produce good outcome to improve the society n people's livelihood. Real life happenings with compassion n experiences are way more important than just a paper qualification.

[@manutd8390]

OMG... You call this a debate.. More like a Q&A. Oh btw.. My office town hall with big boss is more exciting than this.. C'mon CNA.. Do a real debate.

[@6168lucky]

Lim tean against 4 minsters.

[@jimw8615]

Agree

[@lamsunyong343]

@@6168lucky haha, is it a joke?

[@rashannike2087]

PMETs are not the only ones out of job.

[@黄金山科技]

Singapore shall be matured enough to represent national globally, kept on maintence the Singapore standards from public secured, safe, clean, healthy, friendly environment, all levels trusted and honest to be respected with long life learning and improved together, more saving for lower class, less gambling, our Singapore dollar currency continue stay strong globally stables for tradings and infrastrueture supply chain actively good with standard services, remain first class Gardens-City, clean & green environment UV (Universal Design) developed. Less expensive more saving toward the lower class workers, boost and recover tourists business, generatioms gaps of retraining to replace important tasks management and skills.

[@budithibhanuraman143s7]

👍👍🙌🇸🇬

[@emmanuelyap6796]

Why did he get 4:30 when everyone else got 1:30

[@79chgoh]

This is a complicated and nuances issues. 1. Stop discrimination of people of bosses that lost their business, mid career job seeker, people with checkered academy careers, aged workers and etc.. 2. Resilience in work and live attitude in resisting changes. Too much bad attitude, create blockage thus decreasing productivity 3. Shorten work hours, most PMET work are spent reaffirming each other than real work anyway

[@billhong4216]

On the one hand, PAP dishes out all kinds of schemes purportedly to help Singaporeans to find jobs. But on the other hand, stubbornly refuse to review our labour law regarding the employment of foreign PMETs and minimum wage. What an irony. Get to the root of the problem and fix it !! Simply put, it's a lack of political will. Period.

[@supercritic100]

If having foreign PMETs make them so unpopular, why would they continue to welcome them. There must be some sort of underlying benefit right? It's not like their wages increase everytime they hit a new foreign PMET quota anyway, so why not just do away with thousands of them to make the people happy? Ever thought about it?

[@loshakhun8832]

Singapore without foreign PMET will be like Batam and all MNC will just relocate to HK. SG losing its competitiveness is really good news for Shanghai, HK, and other potential hubs.

[@太叔公]

许顺全 你到底知道失业的症结点吗?你参选这么多年 难道不知道是很多新加坡人很挑剔 有很多工作都不愿意干吗?我不想一支竹竿打翻一船人 当然也有许多刻苦耐劳的 新加坡人已经习惯了外劳 就连人口不够也进口 要解决这个问题得从根本去检讨 不是你所提出来的那些咋听下好像是解方 但非常不切实际

[@6168lucky]

We are not talking about jobs that needed you. We are saying many TALENTED SINGAPOREAN can do PMETs. Are you working as PMETs? What job you are in? I wanna work and complete with you! See who can do much better job with profit results. I got confident once I wanna resign. Your boss sure ask me to stay. I am singaporean. I work with passion, commitment, responsible to company's interests. Now I am driving grab. 8am till 9.30pm. Can you drive such long hours? If you are capable and got the right to criticize DR CHEE. you would be commenting in KZbin. You will be sitting in parliament with them. If you really are capable. Your government sure would not let you come to Singapore. Stop thinking that singapore will fall without you. Respect and be humble my friend.

[@colinchia5318]

Singapore is not flooded with FT.Its just ponding once in 50 years.

[@farizahasim729]

Dr Vivian has more than the given time it was unfair

[@PC-rh6kr]

PAP has tangible plans to address the problem. All 3 opposition parties spent most of their airtime talking about the problem (which everyone knows) or criticising PAP's plans and were unable to clearly articulate their own proposal. It is clear who we can count on to deliver

[@eyeswideshut8110]

You might want to practise listening again or were you munching on chips and cola with 1 eye on K drama while they lay out solutions? Im not crazy about Oppo BUT let's be fair and give credit when credit's due. They have next to no real data, you sld try working out a solution while blind folded.

[@horsehorse3590]

🙈🙉🙊 puppy 👍

[@JT-vz6oo]

Not sure if you've seen the full video before commenting, all oppositions were given 1.5mins of air time to summarise their proposal whilst Dr. Balakrishnan was given 4.5mins to refute them. While i agree the representative from PSP spent most of his time criticising the PAP, Dr Lim of WP and Dr Chee of SDP gave a clear and articulate SUMMARY of their proposal. Dr Balakrishnan still did not address the foreign workers problem, in fact he totally dodged the question, which in fact is what most singaporeans are angry about.

[@annamariana8140]

@@悟空-n5n woww after Lky is gone, you want to introduce high handed politics again... Just be democratic will you, just becoz you support pap, oppos are evil... You are the evil, dangerous n malicious hate promoter

[@annamariana8140]

@@悟空-n5n I think you're the one that should be inside...spreading lies n hate. What are you so scared of? Don't try to shove down our throats with pap propaganda..we are not living in the past with the old man... Times have changed, people are wiser and smarter.... With social media, it's as different ball game.. people are not scared or intimidated by threats like yours... Why are u still here, shouldn't you be out there putting up pappy banners?

[@RuiTuition]

How does not raising tax help the unemployed?

[@jameslim6865]

Vote PAP=9% GST

[@loshakhun8832]

Fake news.

[@janelau7297]

The crisis is already ignited when the government influx Singapore with foreigners since more than 10yrs ago. Wake up your ideas! The crisis does not started now. Singaporeans have been suffering from the crisis caused by the government. We are not like you, getting big salary from your without the need to compete with the foreigners. How about that, allows the foreigners to be MPs of the Singapore

[@ziggyelliott8094]

1) HR managers must be local Singaporean/ PR capable to articulate HR strategy and not HR administrators only 2) headhunters cannot keep giving excuses, but work harder sourcing local to keep their employment agency status - headhunters who only cream off non locals will not get EP approvals for their candidates. 3) MOM must have a department analysing and actively rejecting work passes and field local with similar skills to be interviewed and not have "passive" approaches with careers.sg etc which I do not believe is working - the cosmetic system can be gamed. 4) Singaporeans must reskill, be articulate and rise up to outperform their counterparts - and cast away that "work to time, work to rule, work to scope" reputation we are stuck with. Earn our place in the workforce - it is not an entitlement. I support Singapore having a critical mass of FW / population which is necessary for to keep Singapore's competitiveness but we need to address this festering issue of unfettered approvals of FW work passes which has been festering for 10 years but never addressed beyond the cosmetic which somewhat was not very effective so Lim Tean voted in could help MOM - hint hint

[@ckleong3949]

Every individual should be given an equal time of 5 minutes each.

[@erictan4455]

All are good n great fantastic but Jamus Lim did not let d pap giant minister intimidate him I think all are clear that pap cannot go about intimidate whether candidate or not it has been long that pap think all folks are foolish n I m not that intelligent but I HV decide that pap themself is foolish not me I m Singaporean why HV that evil n wicked mind think that all are not wise only pap best wishes

[@abdrazak8310]

Singaporean getting small Foreigner getting bigger.....

[@Utube1024]

Come on CNA do a proper debate 30 minutes each. Even foreplay need more than 10 mins to get it fire up and running..

[@oo-oe4km]

v did not address the issue of foreign pmets and creating good jobs for singaporeans. its just jobs jobs jobs

[@wl5305]

PAP STILL.

[@gha9543]

Singapore must move on from a tourist hub for travellers and tax haven for foreign offshore investments. Singapore must reform its financial tax shelter for foreign entities doing trade and business in Singapore.Pioneer status for foreign corporations to avoid paying capital gains tax on personal assets be removed and those in favour of foreign resident to shelter their wealth in Singapore. Singapore has been accused of being a foreign tax haven and shelter for foreign corporation based offshore for tax purposes.

[@derrickg91]

Singapore don’t seems to have strong opposition leader. It’s obvious in this video. Opposition side need more talent, a strong leader to bring forward all parties and consolidate into one, strong opposition party like what they did in Malaysia in the last GE there. Or else small, fragmented opposition parties warlord-like strategy will have no treat to PAP.

[@jessiejames7492]

jamus speaks like a foreigner. cant catch the accent .. but interesting :)

[@kamaruddinsahabudin3378]

I'm disappointed with Dr Chee

[@ashunknown9728]

He really impacted whole debate LA.just simple question haha .. He Is legend.. They say flasehood but online artcle publish it not his fault .. But that really impacted that pap would not increasing to 10 million so now Singaporean has relief now.. We need more Oppo .. Vote him in parliament we need this kind of strong leader. More,voice n question more they will scared to implement. .morever Dr Chee have even not won single vote yet haha.. 20 over years been in politics he was not given a chance I feel pity to him ..

[@littlefish8642]

Dr Chee , Well speaking tonight, unfair to hv only 1.5 mins to him, very dirty game terms in this debates, they are not opposition, they are performing alternative voice and policy , well done!!!

[@garfieldandfriends1]

It isn't the best you have seen from a candidate, but it's the best he has done so far himself.

[@alexchan887]

To me dr chee is very direct and point blank. He knows his stuff he definitely not those softy politician kind of guy he wants to change the society to be better. And with regards to PMET that is a big worry for us locals. Even the three parties are kind of like joining hands and saying same langauage in directly