Gear Review: Holosun SCS

[@adrikubel]

The fact it is low profile enough to work with "stock" factory sights, without add on plates, without worrying about batteries, this is quickly approaching the new "default" pistol sight.

[@ASPextra]

I think that will help. Will help a lot of firearm manufacturers start standardizing optics cut dimensions, too.

[@Cudchuddler]

​@@ASPextrais there no way to manually adjust and set brightness?

[@Gilgamesh347]

@@Cudchuddler - yes, you can manually set brightness or let it go auto. Your choice. Sadly, it does not have shake awake technology. So I sometimes forget to turn it off but again, it'll last two years so who cares? Cheers.

[@Cudchuddler]

@@Gilgamesh347 thanks so much for the info

[@gibbynj3002]

Holosun continues to push innovation in the optics market. I will be buying one for my Sig P320 build.

[@mikegurv1818]

My friend has this optic. It's fairly small. The dot and irons in the same small window make it crowded. I can live with changing a cheap battery every 3 years. I have DPP on my P320 and it's a charm.

[@I_ammm_mojojojo]

SCS for the PDP please!!!

[@cbcastillo5681]

I have this on my Glock 19 gen 5 and it’s amazing it came with my Glock pre installed and zeroed in. Best green dot by far.

[@timkelly5205]

I recently got this for Glock 19 MOS and I love it. It rarely sees true sunlight between IWB carry and indoor range and it hasn't died on me yet. I only have a few hundred round with it, but so far no issues.

[@Spidey_Ethan]

"...that's enough of Glock..." I about died. 🤣

[@jpabe9321]

Spoiler alert: It did fine in Cowan's tests.

[@jonathanvelez4385]

Now I finally can get the vp9 tactical optics ready, I was hesitant because not a big of plates.

[@bombardier420]

Hope you waited. You probably know, but they announced bunch of new ones this year including a VP9 model lol.

[@1977Yakko]

Just added one of these to my Glock 47 and it's an amazing fit. That it sits so low and aiming it is just like aiming with the factory sights (which I can still see) makes transitioning to this optic very easy. So many other pistol optics sits just a tad high and you essentially have to retrain yourself but not with this.

[@Jawnwickk]

Fully enclosed like the EPS or 509t would be everything!

[@Swampytheroot]

I love my HoloSuns! Been skeptical about the SCS. Guess it's time to bite the bullet and pick one up. Nice presentation

[@cxsey8587]

really looking forward to a v2 or another version with an enclosed emitter and hopefully buttons to set brightness

[@bombardier420]

LMAO, ask and you shall receive! Here we are. Just preordered the DPP SCS 🤙

[@cxsey8587]

@@bombardier420 unfortunately not for MOS pattern :((

[@bombardier420]

@@cxsey8587 can see how that would suck, but I don't have any mos slides. I was actually thinking about getting my g20 slide milled in mos JUST for the SCS lol, but hard to find a shop that will do it (understandably they all mill for direct mount, the original SCS being a total oddball not needing a plate). I guess you could just use a MOS DPP plate...?? Kinda sucks, obviously you're gonna loose some of the height advantage, but I bet it's still lower than damn near anything else on the market with SCS/no removable battery situation 🤷‍♂️ 🤔.

[@CaptainInvis]

I pray they come out with one for the Sig p365XL

[@aaronchampagne8631]

So awesome! When will they make them for other guns?

[@bombardier420]

In approximately 7 months from your comment 😆😆 ;-)

[@bertito43]

Can’t wait for this one to come for the 365X

[@FakeNews953]

I like the solar idea but I prefer to always have a battery as backup

[@ASPextra]

If the internal battery has a 2-year life, I am not super worried about it.

[@FakeNews953]

@@ASPextra maybe I misunderstood. Is it 2 years worth of power total then it’s useless . Or 2 years on a single charge?

[@ASPextra]

2 years on a charge. It recharges from the solar panel.

[@175dan]

Basically, it has a battery that's not user replaceable similar to modern cellphones. You'll have to send it in to replace the battery.

[@russdennis7026]

Man I sure hope they make one with the RMR footprint??? Last year I bought a brownells G19 slide with an RMR cut and not having to replace my standard height Trijicon hd's would be nice.

[@ellissmithjr6599]

Sounds good... Wonder if it will fit my XDm compact Elite 10mm?

[@vincentc2466]

Thanks for this one John. I bought to replace my 508t and i love ittt

[@timelliott6036]

Which pistols are they going to fit?

[@scottlin777]

I am a new owner of a sig p365 and want an SCS. I wonder if they are on back order already

[@maxpizano]

These JUST today are available. Bought on Optics Planet for $350.

[@rodneyhobbs6507]

Hi adam. I just bought new holosun aems the one with the solar panel. Reticle seemed so clear at the gun store.

[@johndelagarza361]

I'd like a smaller one for a Hellcat, I'm sure the P365 guys would like one too.

[@noah.s95]

Those already take a Holosun 407K/507K/EPS Carry directly or with a very thin plate where the optic directly threads into the slide.

[@johndelagarza361]

@@noah.s95 yeah but I'm interested in this thing which has a lower profile.

[@noah.s95]

@@johndelagarza361 that makes sense, though the 407K/507K is also tiny and works with standard low irons.

[@matthewbeaver5026]

So i just ordered an OR replacement slide for my vp9. It comes with tall sights. Are they going to be to tall and interfere with the only direct mount option available for the vp9?

[@ASPextra]

You know, I am not positive on that. I might use an optics mount.

[@tolem9793]

Make this with the Vulcan reticle please.

[@infidel24]

I wish holosun would make a big glass pistol dot.

[@dangerousfreedom4965]

How’s it sit on a Glock 48?

[@MrPerry61]

hope they make one in the DPP/R1P footprint

[@overworked30]

sage dynamics puts it through its paces and it doesn't break several drops

[@ASPextra]

Every time I see Aaron drop a gun on its optic I cringe SO HARD. I am glad he does it, but it makes me cry.

[@lamoscapeluda]

Purchased one that lasted about 3 weeks, and 50 rounds before it mysteriously stopped working. Shipped it back to Holosun just to find out that their warranty dept is backed up 1-2 weeks+15-20 day turnaround. Should have stuck to the proven RMR.

[@timunderbakke8756]

Will there be an adapter for mounting to a pic rail for certain rifles with low iron sights such as Scorpions or AKs using a rail?

[@terrypayne3369]

Almost every rifle rds made will do that now with just a low mount.

[@adama1294]

The problem is that if it designed for particular guns, can you use it on lesser known guns

[@PopBubbleWrappable]

That depends, will lesser known as well as better known companies start standardizing footprints? Only time will tell.

[@aesbj9228]

Duct tape

[@GuNz_N_ShIeEt]

I was about to pull the trigger on a trijicon rmr for my Glock 30s but honestly I think I’m going to go with this! Never was a huge fan of how the holosuns looked per say, but this thing looks very clean! Definitely going to go with this over the rmr just because I won’t have to upgrade to suppressor height sights.

[@bwofficial1776]

Holosun is better value for money.

[@artimla492]

Please tell me there was a PDP model on the show floor?!?!?

[@framefilmstudio]

do you need sun light for it to charge or will it charge with incandescent, fluorescent and LED lights? thx for the video❤

[@keyoflife24]

I saw another video where the rep said LED light will charge it.

[@rich1958]

When will this be available for glock 43 or 48? When are non Glock options available?

[@Donovan.A.Daniel]

Anyone know when Holosun is releasing the SCS for the VP9?

[@roymercer1417]

At the end didn’t he say release date qtr 1 or qtr 2? I assume that means within the first half of 2023?

[@danoneal9816]

So you showed the SCS on an HK VP9 where did they have the optics cut milled or where do you get an SCS to fit the VP9 optics cut?

[@ASPextra]

They haven’t released the VP9 model yet.

[@johnspartan3405]

Have one on the way for my walther pdp

[@chuerta916]

When are we going to see these released for h&k vp9 and sig p320?

[@CharliePR93]

How long you think the battery will last if i always leave it on?

[@ASPextra]

They measure it in years so I’d say a couple….

[@totljag1]

I need this

[@tacdad]

CZ P10 series PLEASE??????

[@Scashod]

Want!

[@MrKruger2]

How does it turn on, automatic or manual

[@bwofficial1776]

Holosuns are always on. They'll go into sleep mode if it's not moved in a set amount of time but will immediately wake up when moved. You can turn it off for storage but then all you need to do is push one button.

[@timbenham516]

Please make this sight for the 43x 48 mos.

[@syncprism6283]

When he says "milled for individual guns" how does that work when I purchase an SCS? So it'd be a "customized" item and I just tell the seller (maybe directly from holosun only?) what my pistol is and have it milled?

[@ASPextra]

More like they’re going to make it for the MOS pre-milled guns, and make it ready to mount to that milling.

[@syncprism6283]

@@ASPextra So if I have my slide milled in RMR mount there is no way to directly mount it?

[@ASPextra]

You'd have to get a new slide.

[@sab35263]

will this work for the California P365?

[@ASPextra]

Should.

[@cdegenova1761]

So you need 7 days worth of light every two years? Seems like a lot of it’s kept in a safe. Might have to turn the optic off if storing.

[@ASPextra]

Doesn't seem too much to me, really.

[@makoyilocano]

I want one !!!!

[@AGC828]

Does Holosun have a SCS for the Beretta M9A4's? (and the A3...)And if it fits the A4 it should be fine for the 92X Tact mount... Tood to see some Chinese companies stepping up and upping the quality of their products. Not just making cheap knockoffs. They CAN make quality products (better than US companies even...as far as RDO go)...musical instruments but I digress...heh...). Though, I'd stil do my research before buying any Chinese product. I think Holosun is Chinese owned but manufactures in the USA???

[@ASPextra]

There's no SCS on the market yet, so no. :) But hopefully.

[@enlightenedbythesouldevour1412]

what light is that

[@TheStoerenfred]

I guess it is their (Holosun) new Pistol Light. They make Lights now too.

[@tn6504]

So, will this optic make the VP9 with stock high sights too high because it's low profile and no plate needed ?

[@ASPextra]

Too high? Not sure what you mean by that. It uses standard height sights as a lower third cowitness.

[@tn6504]

@@ASPextra I have a VP9 OR with high sights so will this optic still work ?

[@ASPextra]

If you already have suppressor-height sights on the gun I would not choose this optic.

[@Gilgamesh347]

I've bought four of them. All green. Yep, that's right, LOL.

[@ASPextra]

For four guns, or did they break on you?

[@Xpnential999999]

Does it have the 32 MOA circle?

[@Xpnential999999]

The answer, if anyone is wondering, is yes. That is awesome. That large circle is a game changer.

[@fbodkin1]

So this optic is always on? No shake awake and auto off?

[@ASPextra]

Correct.

[@fbodkin1]

@@ASPextra I feel that I have made a huge mistake in purchasing this for an EDC CCW weapon. Why they wouldn't put a shake awake feature on this is inconceivable.

[@ASPextra]

I think it's good. 20,000 hours of battery life without worry? That's a long time.

[@algoodger]

@@ASPextra Is it like their other options in that the 20,000 hour rating is dot only ? If you have the circle on, or the circle and dot you cut the hours in half or more ?

[@evanduhon4353]

So what really matters will they make this for the walther pdp? What is this guys deal with the vp9 it’s a good pistol but definitely not the best. Walther pdp is very similar to vp9 but more affordable, better trigger, better grip texture, better slide serrations, higher capacity, and all models come optic ready. So what am I missing? Is it just a name thing?

[@asdfghjk2933]

VP9 is the same or better in every way except the trigger (which is very debatable). Mine literally came with 20 round mags, plus you can do some basic work on the trigger to make as good or better than any PDP trigger out there. Mine has a much crisper and shorter break with less overtravel than my buddy's PDP (even with the performance trigger upgrade). It also has a 2.7lb pull weight and feels like a damn 2011 trigger. Seriously, although the PDP has a nice trigger with a pretty short pull, it has a ton of creep too. Reminds me of a glock with less travel in that respect. It's not objectively better than the VP9 trigger. Both have pros and cons. Stock VP9 trigger has a longer reset, but the stock PDP trigger is much mushier and doesn't even have a defined wall. Overtravel and take up are about on par, stock vs stock. Not to mention the PDPs weirdly high bore axis. It's one of the few 9mms I've fired that feels like a damn .40 cal. It's also kinda ugly compared to the VP9. Something about the build quality isn't up to par either. It felt like a polymer toy compared to the VP9. How's the reliability on the PDP? My VP9 has literally gone for 3500 rounds without cleaning and I haven't had a single malfunction. Sorry Evan, but you should get your facts straight before trashing a super nice gun. I'm not saying the PDP isn't great - it's a hell of a lot better than any glock out there and ONE OF the best strikers, but better than a VP9? There is a reason it's cheaper, and it's not just because of the HK vs Walther logo.

[@Codyfarmer]

Thinking about trying this one. Did you test it out yet?

[@ASPextra]

No, not yet.

[@jwj011576]

Will there be a SCS MOS Green for Single stack Glock MOS pistols wife to 48 MOS?

[@Jutube777]

Any updates on a release date for the vp9?

[@ASPextra]

Not that I am aware of, but I don't have insider info from them.

[@Direwolf1166]

They can keep going during a zombie apocalypse? Interesting. Will they repair your car ears if they get damaged in a zombie apocalypse too?

[@windygail3071]

I ordered one from optics planet in green for 349

[@rich1958]

If only I saw this before getting $350 optic cut on my CZ! lol

[@garoristic]

Not sure about this

[@redeye8526]

make the damn walther pdp version already !

[@johnspartan3405]

Did you get yours yet?

[@Shadow__133]

@@johnspartan3405He did but can't comment on it because... he got into a shootout without charging it in the sun before and died 😂

[@tm8747]

will the sight fit a springfield armory xd9 4"

[@ASPextra]

I don't think they make an optics ready version of that gun, so you'll have to have it milled. I would think the more commonly available optics would be better choices.

[@tm8747]

yes your right it has to be milled down to fit and , so im having the area milled down and purchased the sight thank you for the info, and the viewing

[@garyjustgary5059]

No shake awake feature though and that’s the deal breaker for me.

[@ASPextra]

It really doesn't need shake awake. The battery will last a year in a safe.

[@garyjustgary5059]

@@ASPextra So if I were to use it as a home defense setup then I’d just leave it on all the time? I couldn’t imagine having to locate and press the button under stress in a dim to dark environment with limited time.

[@ASPextra]

It doesn't have an on switch. All common optics for defensive purposes are always on these days.

[@garyjustgary5059]

The SCS does have an on/off switch. I had one in my hands today. On a side note, I really like your channel. I appreciate all the lessons you post daily. I must say your channel is one reason I’m on KZbin.

[@ASPextra]

It's a multi-function switch. Again, unless it's just being stored, leave it on.

[@Defossion1]

Has anyone ACTUALLY TESTED how well this unit holds a charge and how long it takes to charge it up?? I know what Holosun claims, but what is happening the real world? Who has left this in a dark drawer for 3 months, and what happened?

[@ASPextra]

I haven't seen any reports.

[@Defossion1]

@@ASPextra Thanks. My buddy has one and is getting nothing close to the battery life claimed by Holosun (data sample of one). He's sending it back under warranty, but I was wondering if anybody else had a similar experience.

[@rlpennell]

SS 2023 and still waiting…

[@ASPextra]

HK has them inbound, check out today’s video!

[@LuisGonzalez-rx1nl]

Wow

[@LL-tz8lo]

nice ad

[@aesbj9228]

There's no battery. Wait, then how does it- ...except the internal battery. Oh right. 😂

[@rlpennell]

Still waiting…

[@ASPextra]

Yeah I can't make them sell the thing lol

[@deez2glocks]

This thing is never going to be released

[@schweeb9113]

First!

[@silentanddeep]

This red dot SUCKS. Big time Sucks. The only way to turn it ON/OFF is using a pin punch. I can not turn it on using a finger (sometimes successful using my fingernail). I will never be able to turn it ON in an emergency. Holosun - go back to the drawing board and come up with something NEW and BETTER. Maybe shake it ON, and automatically turn it off after a few hours ?

[@ASPextra]

It's not designed to be turned off, Howard. It's designed to be left on and charged via solar occasionally. Do not ever turn it off.

[@SS-tr5ru]

Hard pass without replaceable batteries