Why You Should Stop Cutting (I QUIT!)

[@rogerserra4300]

Social media is trash. Just workout, eat healthy, repeat.

[@jyeprice9382]

100 percent agree. Balance.

[@muadack3972]

Not that simple

[@mannyomega713]

spot on ..people make it wat more complicated than it has to be

[@Shinar11]

Also, getting the rest you need too!

[@impabloalonso]

Social media is a tool or a distraction, depending on the user

[@SeboHyatt]

The style of video is leading me down a series of this journey. This is actually quite entertaining. I wanna see how this turns out.

[@michaelm8188]

If you stick to the bulk for years I actually believe you can get a 24-25 ffmi at around 5’10-11 200 lbs lean maybe not shredded but quite lean. You got this I’m proud of you 🖤

[@coolbasedgigachad6820]

FFMI is important

[@drmvp21]

Naw he's an ectomorph. He can probably hit 23 realistically. 200lbs lean isn't possible with such small bone structures. He'd be hugh A/F if he could make it to 200lbs and still be lean. 180-185 and somewhat lean is realistic for him.

[@michaelm8188]

@@drmvp21 We’ll see but whatever happens the bulks will help. When I say lean I mean within the 12-15 percent body fat range. 200lbs 5’10-11 15% body fat at the absolute minimum should be a fairly reasonable goal. There are many “ectomorphs” that made it to around 24 ffmi from like gvs, alex leonidas and natural hypertrophy.

[@drmvp21]

@@michaelm8188 in a lean state none of those guys are over 23.5. And Leonidas has a thicker structure then this guy. 200 lbs isn't possible naturally whike being lean and of average height. 180 lbs at 10 percent puts him at 24 ffmi. 200 lbs is possible but for what?? His bodyfat will be high for no reason. His ffmi is already near 23. There's a reason Leonidas isn't going back to bear mode.

[@lematechreviews8355]

@@drmvp21honestly brodie might make it that big who knows can’t wait to see what finna happen ‼️

[@lematechreviews8355]

I bet you’ll be surprised how much progress you finna make. Austin finna get hugeeeee.

[@Meraj_1983]

This dude dropping bangers lately

[@Austindunhamfit]

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[@RegisSouthern]

I like the recent content with your new style of editing and mini clips

[@3istheanswer]

Part of being natty is accepting you have muscle mass limits

[@Branden-vl9sl]

But the ceiling is higher than people think. They don't bulk long enough.

[@gsftbeast9761]

Depends on genetics bro some people can pack on like double the amount of a average person

[@3istheanswer]

@@Branden-vl9sl bulking is also not as effective for natties because we don’t have the enhanced muscle protein synthesis

[@3istheanswer]

@@gsftbeast9761 that’s also true

[@WayneCoolin]

I think there’s some truth to what Greg Doucette is saying. Just lift at a body fat you’re comfortable at, maybe 15% or higher / lower, and just stay consistent. I think so many people are fake nattys that we’ve forgotten what a great natural physique looks like and how long it takes to get it. Just eat right, train hard, and enjoy the journey.

[@yricistsglobally]

Agreed 100% and I don’t like the idea of body building without functionality! Body build and show us what you can do other than lift heavy weights!

[@Tomasthe1st]

I just got off the stage yesterday and placed second in my class for Men's Physique at a local show for NPC. I totally agree with what is said in this video. This is bodybuilding. You should continue to build muscle and make progress year after year and not just to look lean. Social media influencers who have never stepped on the stage and hear from real judges critiques. They will place low if they go on stage and see how much muscle others have packed on.

[@InspirationOverImitation]

I was just about to say, "watch he make a video on why you should start bulking" or "why you should stay between 12-16% body fat". I knew you were going to make this video. I just didn't know it would be today 😂. Glad you realized it sooner than later.

[@SeanStaxxMusic]

0:18 "But then I realized something, I really don't have a lot of muscle" As the video footage shows an absolutely yoked and athletic individual....smh social media really warped everyone's perceptions. Austin has body dysmorphia if he believes what he said.

[@mardigbidanian7119]

I weighted in at 22.4 BMI at 14.3% at 177 cm, according to Fittrack. I will cut down 2 more Kilograms and I'll go on a lean bulk. SInce May 2022, I dropped from 30.7 BMI to 22.4 BMI today, a weight loss of 57 lbs.

[@michaelm8188]

I believe men continuingly build muscle until their t levels drop from older age. There are diminishing returns but gains never fully stop until you hit a old age and even than it’s maintainable. I.e. Even if someone lifted for 7-10 years and got most of their gains if they continued for another 15 years they will look quite notably better.

[@con8723]

Maingaining only works if you're a beginner to resistance training. After about 2-3 years, you will stop and will need to increase caloric intake to grow those muscles

[@HardTimesSurvival]

You still eat in a small surplus when you main gain

[@legendarydestiny9437]

Main gaining is surplus of 150-200 calories surplus

[@runnerboy_7]

Bro definitely watching greg😂 dw we know ur natural

[@itsbeyxnd]

Yeah diet is the hardest part from me. Fucked up my appetite from years of vaping and weed at a young age but now I think I’m quitting for good and once my appetite recovers, I’m gonna try and eat more to gain muscle

[@danny.chulo.]

Notice it’s always the people already at 10% and lookin their best who tell you not to cut

[@shookn]

Very true

[@malone4735]

AD Team 💪💪

[@kennethbowie1828]

People always say I'm skinny. I'm 150 pounds at 5 foot 8. I'm built like a feather weight or lightweight boxer. Crazy low body fat, broad shoulders, and tiny tiny waist, a 29 inch waist. I know I have to bulk to really start building, but I'm not gonna eat 3,500 hundred calories a day. Just other things I wanna do. I already spend enough time planning my meals

[@davidaleksic8381]

Have you guys heard about natural limit?

[@VivaLaFamous]

I’ve been skinny/ slim my entire life! I just started going to the gym a lot. But I want to be toned & lean. NOT big like The Rock or something. More so a swimmers or track & field body. So should I focus on weights or on cardio?

[@TokyoXL]

hit the weights hard, no matter how hard you train you wont look like the rock

[@foxolibre5457]

The rock on PEDs

[@foxolibre5457]

​@@TokyoXLtru that 😎💯💪🏽

[@animekingdom4918]

The rock is literally on PEDs

[@chrisxfitness]

My BMI is 29.5 Overweight But im overweight because i have alot of muscle mass i think its time to get ripped and see how good i look like

[@slidecounter]

Cutting is the best way bro especially off of fasting

[@DanielNogy]

i have never had a cut, i am bulking for 6 years now, from 119 pound , to 185 pounds now ! I am going to start my first cut next year, to cut from 15%(now) , to around 11% and cotinue lean bulking!

[@coachingconfidant2785]

i dont believe you have been bulking thats bullshit you cant bulk for 6 years and only be 15%. 1 year of bulking is enough to get to 20% you would have been 30% by now

[@hot_guy997]

What’s wrong with cutting first before bulking?

[@JaapSchouten-m1j]

You look good,dont worry about it and stay natty,iff not you will regred it later in life!

[@blitz3727]

So do you have a bulk diet video

[@stephentaylor5169]

Getting the diet part down feels almost impossible to me like how tf do you eat so much food

[@TheMastermind729]

consider liquid calories (juice, smoothies) barring that... use more oil

[@fl676]

Hope your excuse to say u bulking is not to use peds and then say it was from bulking 🤦🏻‍♂️

[@Austindunhamfit]

def not

[@butchurbear8059]

I'm a muscular skinny guy and I was 133 lbs last month at 5'9 then a month later going on a bulk along with 5 days in the gym I went up to 148 lbs. I'm doing progressive overload but I've noticed that as I gain weight and still look lean it's becoming harder to do the same amount of reps I'm use to. I'm a hard gainer so I could eat 3000 calories in a day and might not gain the weight. Any tips?

[@andrewreed1329]

Are you deloading?

[@butchurbear8059]

@@andrewreed1329 I’m actually gaining weight again. Went from 148 lbs to 155 lbs now. I guess I just needed to wait. It seems like I’m mesomorph because my additional calories with protein and carbs just add to the muscles instead of turning into fat. I’m so use to eating one meal a day which I know is crazy due to stress but when I finally did research into the proper gym regiment for me and proper diet to compensate I believe I’ve been making crazy strides. The one pit fall is I’m not as fast as I was when I was 135 lbs but I’m stronger. Started with 30 lbs dumbbells and now I’m up to 50 lbs.

[@eldawii]

Eat less. At 133 lbs 5'9 your BMR is around 2300 cal which means you're in a 700 calorie surplus. The maximum amount of lean muscle you can build per month is about 2 lbs which means you've gained almost 12 lbs of excess fat. The reason you still look lean is probably because you has a very low bf% to begin with.

[@14_carbon_blkghost]

Bro, don’t you already have a video out saying why you should stop Bulking??? I’m confused🤔

[@enixgreatness]

l’m skinny fat this is a good advise surely going to help thanks Austin

[@eminye1]

Austin try the Arthur Jones Mike Mentzer method.

[@_wciv3820]

I know it’s not a pendulum on the desk by the KZbin plaque but what is it called?

[@JohnnyBlaze_616]

4:16 “Sorry for the weight.” 😂😂😂

[@NazeemSpencerJoles]

I'm 26 BMI lean. 5'10" 185 lbs

[@oscarchs2239]

You cut to build lean muscle or to compite , is body recomposition

[@francissellerdude]

the thing is is that you seem to have good ab genetics. i'm cutting until i can see a six pack. I'm like 12 percent bdf and i still can't see a six pack, everything else looks great tho, i think i have lousy ab genetics lol

[@Kidlynno]

How much muscle u want bruv

[@user-ch1jg7mq6v]

At this time last year I was 165 lbs (I’m 6 ft). I was SHREDDED. Since then between life and stress, I’m 180. Still “lean” but nowhere near as vascular and shredded I was last year. This shit is tough to maintain. And it’s even tougher to get back to what I once was.

[@zen4915]

hey, can I ask how much muscle you had at 165? like did you have a decent amount or were you just a skeleton? im curious lol because im actually just like u, 6 feet and 180, and ive been considering going on a cut to 165. im at like 20% bf rn.

[@Nathan-Higgers_13]

@@zen4915Absolutely dont cut, just eat alot of Protein and train hard

[@zen4915]

@@Nathan-Higgers_13 thats what ive been doing for a year, and ive packed on some really good size but at the same time i just feel like shit some days when i wake up due to some gain in body fat

[@Nathan-Higgers_13]

@@zen4915 What are your numbers on bench and squat? Are you skinnyfat?

[@tonii4673]

I totally agree. I was shredded last year and 160 lbs, 5'10. This year, life hit and for the love of God I cannot get under 170lbs. As soon as I get close to 170lbs something happens and I gain weight. I am still relatively lean at roughly 170 lbs but I would like to get shredded again

[@nabilsyed248]

But you just posted a video around 2- 3 weeks ago saying “ don’t bulk do this instead” outlining how you should cut to 10% body fat before clean bulking? I was about to start doing that… did you change your mind?

[@Othusdragonreviews]

i'm never cutting, i will just grow naturally while trying to eat as healthy as possible, don't care if i don't ever have a 6 pack.

[@junade]

Your body is a dream for a lot of us. I thought you were going for the type of body and look that appeals to the female gaze. So doesn’t getting bigger sort of appeal more to the male gaze? Unless that is the direction you are wanting to go to now?

[@itsbeyxnd]

I think he could put on a little more muscle and still look fine to women. It’s those vascular huge bodybuilder guys that turn most women off(some women like that shit tho)

[@loosecannon6142]

This guy has passed the natural limit and still wants to put more size on?

[@AgentwillyBanksbabay]

Aye I should show pictures I’m 6”3 215lbs I wonder if I’m overweight 🤔

[@rari2xx]

Gotta lose these love handles bruv, once I do I’m going to max out every machine at my gym building muscle ‼️

[@Reppintimefitness]

Lean bulk for a year

[@favouriyiola1825]

you have the frame / work ethic / genetics for a lean 200 LB brother! you might even go higher once you see yourself at 200 .

[@KudaMan]

Nah he doesn’t. He’s basically maxed out his muscular potential and he’s like 5’10 with a thin frame at 170 something lean. At 200 he will be chunky as hell

[@favouriyiola1825]

look at russwole for example ..He sits around 200 and hes only 5'6 . Imagine Austin@@KudaMan

[@KudaMan]

@@favouriyiola1825 russ is a full blooded west african. He has way more legs than austin and just has an overall thicker frame. Maurice jones drew build. Plus he’s not really lean, just has such developed muscles that he can hold body fat well.

[@energyzer_bunny1913]

0:03, Never say never.

[@josh2748]

Ah shit I’m 24,8 bmi and lean asf so I’m good?

[@AgentwillyBanksbabay]

It’s simple science fellas. Let’s say you weigh 180 and your height is 6”0. You want to look muscular at 200 so you eat the calories it requires to have the weight of 200 and you workout. Don’t go over or less and you will maintain your muscle and weight without compromising muscle. Also if you want to stay at 180 and be muscoeasy eat the calories you need to keep your weight at 180 while lifting weight.

[@gadeyeye6268]

Being muscular is nice but it slows you down so much and to maintain those over decades is much harder than thin athletic build but to each it's own. I prefer performance over aesthetic.

[@wavestation999]

Many would argue that the atheletic/performance build is actually more aesthetic than just chasing pure muscle size. I'd rather also rather move well than build excess msucle for no reason, but that's only really a problem for those of us who have been lifting for years and are happy with where our muscle mass is at

[@HammersOverStrikers]

Agreed. In my 20s i chased the muscular for no reason physique. Now going into my 40s… its all about just being athletic, healthy and functional as possible.

[@HammersOverStrikers]

@daveh71 wrong.

[@recon1154]

There's some videos when I here something people are not doing right I go even hard in the gym. Today I heard and I've noticed too people go to the gym for months and still look the same makes me want to eat one more extra egg, drink one more extra protient shake.

[@Siegbert85]

"I really don't have a lot of muscle..." get outta here

[@fl676]

Lol u doing exactly what greg says to do 10% was too low , stay at 15% bodyfat for u

[@hitormissjt4898]

Anyone notice Myron from fresh and fit in the back at 0:24?

[@idkyolo988]

Been bulking for life I cannot just not cut😭

[@professora1213]

Bulk harder until you reach desired weight then maintain it simple.

[@idkyolo988]

@@professora1213 i meant Im fat

[@Reppintimefitness]

Im 7%

[@Ronin-kk4bt]

I used to be that low I was shredded but didn’t like it strength and test level dropped tremendously I feel and look way better and fuller at 15%

[@Reppintimefitness]

The way I did it I maintained most of my strength muscle and energy But I've definitely done traditional style cuts where I lost everything The way you train and diet is key Hit me up to see what I did

[@Kawaii_factory]

only thing i like about a cut is the facial aesthetics n i cant grow a stubble

[@FromTheWombTotheGrave]

im 5,9 75kg aroubd 16/17% bf currently cutting to 12-13%

[@JMusaATM]

Bryson Tiller 0:36. Lol but good video g

[@Lilgirl-qs2qc]

I like how you exercise

[@scottastel181]

You look great. Looks like maingaining has done you well. I think I have gone up and down in weight with weightlifting. Bigger stronger and then drop weight you become ripped and much weaker. I don’t think there is much difference with bulking and cutting weight and maingain. Maybe you look better conditioned with maingaining. Basically your not trying to gain bodyfat, but gain muscle. Gain a pound with the least bodyfat possible.

[@scottastel181]

I guess go between maingain and lean bulk. Kind of the same. Trying not gain bodyfat while gaining muscle. Maingaining you are trying to gain muscle with the least amount fat. If you are gaining a pound then you were in a calorie surplus during your maingain regardless. Could be a small one if gaining over a long period of time

[@scottastel181]

You look great regardless.

[@TheBcoolGuy]

15-17% is fluffy to you? and 20% is genuinely overweight? Maybe when you go by the terrible estimates many men (including myself) make in the earlier years. I'm probably around the bf% you are here: 3:18 and I know I am lean. You have visible abs in that shot, bro! The only reason to cut before 25% bodyfat is that you don't want it to take too long to get back to the low-point of your range. I'm still cutting because I want to try to maintain a range of 12-18%, but man. If you have noticeable muscle development and you lift regularly and earnestly, even more so if you are somewhat active beyond that, you'll be healthy, perhaps even at 30% bodyfat. Assuming, of course, that you're eating real food and not garbage.

[@brobob52]

5'7 150 17% body fat. I still look very cut and lean but I need to get back down and work harder.

[@gokugotop]

i’m the same height 160 shit is making me small af i cut down 15 pounds with austin’s help least amount of bodyfat ive ever had

[@TheMastermind729]

I'm the same height as you and at 165 lbs right now, dunno what my body fat is but I feel really small and I'm going to keep bulking, at least till 170, hopefully I can keep going till 180.

[@shookn]

It’s all about what you want for goals. If you want your best ability to get females then you should get down to 10-12 percent body fat as that’s gonna get you the best results. But if you do want to be a big dude that intimidates other dudes and you like the way you like being bigger than yes stay on a constant lean bulk

[@yricistsglobally]

Your GOAL is the main thing! And that thing should be to be healthy most importantly. One should start with being healthy, fit and strong. Just being a MUSCLE head is stupid! Have functional muscles, these body builders cannot do many things because their muscles are too tight, and bound together, stiff!!! They can’t run far jump high or do anything that requires endurance. Plyometrics over everything.

[@MJ-qb5ph]

For pity sake just eat right meditate be respectful and work out in a balanced way

[@Mylovelyhus]

People keep on underestimating what Alpha destiny have advocated all these years.

[@juni039]

Maybe a tad nit picky are we

[@Lilgirl-qs2qc]

Hey ❤️❤️❤️❤️

[@SniffingOutPharisees-DanielP]

Males can naturally gain a maximum of 50Ib of pure muscle in their entire lifetime, shows you how slow the process is.

[@burgundyskinned]

Fuck cutting. Eat as a lifestyle, of what your gonna eat on a regular basis. Cutting is short term.

[@cbrobinson10]

BMI is not a factor when building muscle. Most bodybuilders have a high BMI due to having more muscle than "normal". Just keep your body fat low and you'll be fine at whatever weight you want to be at

[@AlexEats]

You can still cut while eating massive amounts of food

[@AJ-jo2ub]

He gon start the juice lol.

[@Terry-nr6gi]

Facts

[@armani2377]

He’s at his breaking point

[@Austindunhamfit]

nah man natty for life

[@GawdTy]

For what? I feel like even though Austin obviously in shape for himself, his main body goal is the one women find the most attractive. After a certain point you just building muscles for the bros not the hoes.

[@armani2377]

@@Austindunhamfit gang gang

[@deruneldembal5048]

Pretty much agree with most stuff but 15 and 16 percent are definetly not really flully lol. At about 20 percent i think u should stop bulking.

[@HardTimesSurvival]

Maingaining isn't a lie lmao

[@kennethbowie1828]

Just found out my BMI is 22.8 and body fat percentage is 9.8

[@Memesdotcom]

damn thats amazing bro!

[@AldinBacevac]

I’m not cutting i gain muscle and lose fat at the same time and i have fucking good results

[@PuvanLifts]

greg doucette response incoming

[@professora1213]

Yup 💀

[@lokey987]

Dude said didnt have much muscle lol

[@Dil5150]

Médium Brolic is the way

[@joshsauverwald]

Hey Austin, I just had 2 back to back cheat days. Should I fast to make up for all the calories I ate?

[@N.ate4444]

I dont think so

[@Austindunhamfit]

no just get back on track

[@kamarmclean5518]

No, you should slow. Lol 2 day wont make a massive difference

[@godotblendno107]

What is your goal right now? Are you trying to cut, maingain or bulk? I'll give you an example of how you could proceed: If you went 500 calories over your goal in those two days combined and you have a goal to hit your target weight in like 20 days, then reduce your target calories by 25 calories/day for the next 20 days. 500 surplus calories / 20 days = 25 calories/day. Keep in mind that TDEE is very difficult to estimate, TDEE absolutely does fluctuate over time and you have no clue if you really had X amount of surplus calories in those 2 days. This is just a ballmark estimate of what you can do. I think its counterproductive to adopt the mentality of "I went over 500 calories in those 2 days so I'm going to go under 500 calories today." If your calorie deficit is too large, you run more of a risk of losing muscle mass.

[@joshsauverwald]

@@godotblendno107 I am trying to cut right now

[@davidgoldenberg9450]

Most people after 3-5 years won't really gain more muscle naturally and also stay lean. There's a natural breaking point where to be 9-12% body fat you will always return to the same muscle amount. Social media all makes people think they need more muscle than they do.

[@gainzcreed6613]

You should just start dropping red pill content on this channel since it’s way bigger than the other one

[@lancerevo9747]

Bulk for 5 days, intermittent fast (20+ hours) for 2 days. That's a theory I had, but I haven't done it long enough to notice results. My reasoning is based on the fact that HGH released during intermittent fasts protects the muscle while you dip well into your fat stores.

[@AJ-jo2ub]

Hey man, I can tell you right know that it isn't going to work that way. The protein you eat divided through the day is going to help a lot more than the negligible increase in HGH. In case you want more info: Even large amounts of HGH build so little muscle that it isn't worth it for most bodybuilders, which is why you only start seeing GH use at the higher levels of bodybuilding competitions.

[@lancerevo9747]

@@AJ-jo2ub I thought the HGH increases were much larger than that, in the neighborhood of 2000%, and it's the testosterone increases that are negligible.

[@ισηραητα]

​@@lancerevo9747so i use this strategy: i lean bulk on healthy foods all month long then i take 4- days of the gym in which i dont eat . Made considerable progress in just 7 months and im lean all the way trough I might try your idea tho

[@AJ-jo2ub]

@@lancerevo9747 that 2000%* is somewhat of a "graphs missinterpretation" I belive, but now I'm not sure. Even then, it's not about testosterone, gh, or any other hormone, it's more about the building blocks of muscle. I'm sorry for another long explanation but here it goes. Feel free to not read this: Trying to use that increase in hgh for muscle growth, specifically, is like building a house, but spending the materials-money on more workers to get the job done faster. Yes, you have the workers, but now you don't have the materials to build the house. And since hgh isn't stored anywhere, but rather used within 24h of it's deployment, you can't use the protein you ingest the day after. Oh, and the same goes for protein too, there aren't any substantial storages of protein in your body to build muscle in those 2 days. At the end of the day, it isn't about the increase in hormones or its significance, it's about the lack of building blocks to build muscle. Also, I don't want you to think that I'm dennying the benefits of fasting. I do believe there are other health benefits to it, it's just that muscle growth isn't one of them.

[@IconML]

Dude u don’t need to cut lol you’ve been lean even while “bulking”

[@Dil5150]

You still can add 15-20lbs on your body Austin

[@S1mpski]

0:18 huh?

[@Jolar]

LETSGGGOOO

[@AgentwillyBanksbabay]

For newbs you should eat 500 calories over maintenance for 3yrs straight while working out. Go on a cut for 4wks in may and by June you will be looking like a fucking gorilla. Don’t cut after that maintenance is key for the rest of the summer but after that get back to bulking

[@CleverWorkout]

I end my cut this week 7% Body Fat, then bulk up to 13-15%

[@nobreveren5264]

You're definitely not 7% bf, that's stage lean.

[@stemratex]

You not 7% homie

[@unknownMaster24]

Lol you are like 12-14% lmao

[@CleverWorkout]

@@unknownMaster24 this photo is not 7%

[@Jerry_TheFitnessMessiah]

I’m bulking at 15%

[@genbtc]

.5-1 lb a week is way too fast. that's 52 lbs in a year. mostly fat

[@keithbacchus1840]

You looked leaner than 10 percent like 8 to 9 percent.

[@ikanmasin]

0:04 African God🤤

[@beyondcalisthenics]

Stop cutting Stop doing weighted dips Stop doing pullups Stop running Muscle are overrated Stop following what these so called fitness gurus are saying. Find something that works for you, do it till you die.

[@Austindunhamfit]

i will never say stop doing pullups

[@Dil5150]

Pull up is the top 3 exercise ever

[@beyondcalisthenics]

@@Austindunhamfit but if you say something & dispute it after two years then you would have misled your followers. Your content is very good & it's one of those that made me to start calisthenics!

[@ryandeffley7652]

I think guys make the mistake of not bulking initially for the first 1-2 years with newbie gains. Just build a base, get strong at basic lifts, etc. When they do eventually cut, they have muscle to show and a strong core from compound lifts to let abs show. The trend of "get lean first" the last 7-8 years has really hurt strength levels overall. I mean, guys now are acting like 225 on bench is the new 315. It's weird too how so many guys are bragging about cutting down to 135-150lbs. 🤣

[@Ignasimp]

Not everybody has the same goals though.

[@ryandeffley7652]

@Ignasimp - The one common thing in getting lean though is having a muscular appearance with low bodyfat. But you can't have a "lean" look if you don't have muscle initially to show when you lose fat. If you cut first, you just look skinny fat.

[@Don.2001]

🤝🏽

[@danielhole8164]

cutting is only cool for the photo,