The omission of both the ASRock 870E Taichi, and especially the 870E Nova almost completely invalidates this entire listing of "Best 870 Motherboards"
@GamerDad-0072 ай бұрын
Yeah this is rough lol
@squeezemaster10642 ай бұрын
I guess we know who sponsered this one.
@dominicmarratta99442 ай бұрын
agreed add in the Taichi lite as well
@cochinada012 ай бұрын
It depends on what you require from a motherboard. None of the ASRock supports more than one M2 PCIe 5.0, which for me it's a no no.
@GamerDad-0072 ай бұрын
@@cochinada01 I only need one at that speed for gaming, but I can see others wanting more for multimedia/server purposes.
@carlosclara47592 ай бұрын
None of these boards can beat the Asrock x870e nova. In everything, period.
@chellor20182 ай бұрын
Most underrated board
@marshal79692 ай бұрын
350$ motherboard destroys everything else
@jedimaster15412 ай бұрын
Asrock Nova X870e is the best , and 350 bucks .Nothing even comes close.
@tomaszrzeznik34442 ай бұрын
Wait... Nova is better than taichi ?
@mauriciob82602 ай бұрын
@@tomaszrzeznik3444 The only difference the Taichi have 6 Sata ports, the Flck feature and a quiet bit better VRM ,
@MSaFuVaN642 ай бұрын
Why reject asrock motherboard
@timcluttonАй бұрын
Why have you got the X870E Taichi as your main image with an X on it but you didnt review it in the video?
@mauriciob82602 ай бұрын
Hello!!!! how possible you didn't included the Asrock Gaming Nova X870E , for only 349.00 us dollars on Neweeg USA it have everything the other manufacturer charge you for 200 even so 300 dollars more ,The Nova , Taichi Lite and Taichi are the only boards that no compromise at all the x16 speed pcie line , you can install all the ssd nve drivers you want , also have a killer VRM much better than the Asus Hero , black plate, digital post code and so and so for less than 400.00 us dollars
@aXDroptimus2 ай бұрын
100% agree!
@krisanalfa2 ай бұрын
They’re sold out, “reviewer” can’t review them.
@squeezemaster10642 ай бұрын
@@krisanalfa I just got one from Central Computer ( if you're looking)
@carlosclara47592 ай бұрын
@@mauriciob8260 And $20 rebate from Asrock, can't beat that.
@cochinada012 ай бұрын
I beg your pardon? You can install several NVE SSD's for sure but only one will be Gen 5.
@Madness8012 ай бұрын
If you have a b650 E or x670/x670E then dont waste the money and get them, if you are building a pc for the first time then get whatever is cheaper
@prestonvarner6112 ай бұрын
Worth it for better ram support. Much higher speeds.
@lazylemymaitland69962 ай бұрын
But… the NZXT x870e looks sooo good, I’ll just make a dual system build because the board I have is a itx
@3rd_PhaseSmith2 ай бұрын
"DON'T BUY X870/X870E Motherboards."
@Madness8012 ай бұрын
@@3rd_PhaseSmith you seem like the type to get the 5090 when u got a 4090, its ur money im just saying you dont need to upgrade cuz you'll get the same results no need to be cringe
@JimmyChino552 ай бұрын
@@prestonvarner611 most 600 series boards already do 8000MT, not that it really matters on Ryzen.
@phillipgosson28852 ай бұрын
I had to get a new motherboard my x670e tomahawk broke (my GPU release switch broke and my GPU was not seated firmly) so I ordered a MSI x870e carbon it will arrive on the 8th of October. Hope all goes well I have an 7800x3d 7900xtx
@SHWT1M32 ай бұрын
Nice
@PeterLFC962 ай бұрын
How did your switch break? Was it a mistake you made or faulty board? Did you get a refund or have to pay for 2 seperate boards? @phillipgosson2885
@D3VAN36918 күн бұрын
Saw Lots Of comments Praising Asrock Taichi and Nova ? Can someone tell me why they are preferred more ?
@spartanshadow1317 күн бұрын
If you want more Gen 5 ports those lines are shared. The main PCI Gen 5 x16 gets speed reduced to x8. The asrock motherboards offer less PCi 5 gen ports but leave the main GPU PCie lane alone.
@D3VAN36917 күн бұрын
@ thank you for the reply. I bought gigabyte x870e for my white pc otherwise I would have gone for the taichi. Anyways I now only use 2 gen 4 nvme so shouldn’t be a matter , 4tb sn850x and 1tb sn850. Might go for a 4tb gen 5 or 8 tb gen 4. Appreciate the reply
@PHDarrenАй бұрын
Sapphire has also entered the AM5 motherboard market, just with ITX boards but it's nice to have a new option.
@trumpetlad1232 ай бұрын
lol love how you added the asrock to the list but no feature of the mobo. might need to make an additional solo feature
@aXDroptimus2 ай бұрын
How did you not include ASRock.
@scottr7683Ай бұрын
I find this suspicious when the x870 rs pro is great
@alex50212 ай бұрын
Sorry, I have to say this, but almost none of the X870 and X870E boards can be recommended. When you present such motherboards, you should also mention the weaknesses. Most of these boards have serious weaknesses, which especially with the high price, are simply a NO-GO! Please mention the STUPID LANE SHARING of the boards, otherwise this is not a serious presentation. These are certainly not "top choices". Most of the 600 boards are simply better connected and also cheaper too. It's your responsibility to be fair and honest with your viewers, which means not recommending overpriced rubbish!
@LANPOCALYPSE2 ай бұрын
Asrock Taichi/lite is the only board worth getting...
@alex50212 ай бұрын
@@LANPOCALYPSE Yes, that's right. Unfortunately, it/they don't have an independent extra PCIe slot for add-in cards. Only a x8/x8 configuration with the 1st GPU slot. Otherwise it/they is/are okey and the best board/s I've seen so far from the 800 series.
@LANPOCALYPSE2 ай бұрын
@@JimmyChino55 Nova looks good too!
@cochinada012 ай бұрын
Yes, lane sharing is a problem with the X870/X870E. Only a few X670E on the market allow connecting 2 x M2 Gen5 and still keeping PCIEX16 slot with all 18 lanes..
@christopherramsay5517Ай бұрын
All motherboards have problem mostly due to AMD and Intel cutting lanes want good old days 40 lanes.
@sportislife40122 ай бұрын
I am getting a 7950x 3d.... should I get a x870 eagle or the x870e aorus elite?
@MrAnimescrazy2 ай бұрын
Whichever one fits your requirements.
@cvd12 ай бұрын
You should wait for the 9950x3d. 7000 is very inflated right now
@GeekaKid2 ай бұрын
Great video. Love the Vids❤
@davidfrisbie82162 ай бұрын
Which manufacturer/board have the best BIOS? I want something that makes sense and also not too difficult to set up the CAS Latency on my ram etc.
@Edgar-u8v9m2 ай бұрын
Is the asrock Phantom gaming wifi x870e nova any good
@JimmyChino552 ай бұрын
Probably the best X870E for price and features + build quality.
@Edgar-u8v9m2 ай бұрын
@JimmyChino55 also is the x870e aorus master any good
@JimmyChino552 ай бұрын
@@Edgar-u8v9m Its a good board but a bit pricey imo
@Edgar-u8v9m2 ай бұрын
@@JimmyChino55 is the x870e aorus master any good
@lucaromanovanetti65942 ай бұрын
I don't understand why x870E has so many restrictions about storage, as x670E had not... The most interesting boards are asrock riptide/nova, as they only disable the second/third pcie slot (not many people uses them, right?)
@cvzone2 ай бұрын
Because USB 4.0 took PCIe Lanes that are not available to storage slots anymore.
@dmax23442 ай бұрын
Why no taichi? It and the lite actually seem like some of the best price to performance of the whole lineup. You kinda just come across as an ASUS shill
@GuGam-np3fs2 ай бұрын
I feel RogStrix X870 is the most beautiful in the bands , so i'm building RogStrix x870 . About GPU , i like Aorus Master because i impress with RGB near fans
@Rtx2060super8gb2 ай бұрын
Is asrock x870 pro rs good?
@renshizz272 ай бұрын
is it okay to buy a two 1x16 Ddr5 ram and put it in dimm slots 2&4, will it run the same as dual channel ddr5 ram?
@YIYIYI2Ай бұрын
I want to build a PC with a Ryzen 7 7700x, Radeon RX 7800XT & Asrock x870 Riptide Wifi. Will I have any issues using a x870 motherboard or should I just go with a B650?
@YoCruceSis2 ай бұрын
do i need a x870 board to use the newest cpus ??
@Madness8012 ай бұрын
No you just need to update the bios, 7000 and 9000 seriese CPUs can work on b650/b650E and x670/x670E if you have any of those then just update the bios if you want to use the new gen
@kpmlinhoАй бұрын
I find it crazy how often the video talks about the good price-performance ratio. Manufacturers have almost tripled the price of motherboards in recent years. There is hardly anything with a good price-performance ratio as long as we accept these prices, even call them good, and continue to buy early.
@scottr7683Ай бұрын
You can buy an a620 board if you want to, for 70$ We just have increased power consumption, memory trace, and bandwidth.
@ahmadgaming6571Ай бұрын
When you refuse Asrock, you seem like an influencer, because you only talk without displaying your version of real testing data
@AZmedia92 ай бұрын
What should I go for ? Msi x670e gaming plus wifi or msi pro x870p wifi
@mamatadas24692 ай бұрын
Same question?
@niadh59132 ай бұрын
What about sata connectors. I have 4 4tb samsung 870 ssd. How many of these board have sata connectors for these?
@atomikbhai2 ай бұрын
can you make a montech XR case build
@nunoarruda2 ай бұрын
There’s another 'small player': Biostar, with their X870E VALKYRIE.
@nikolaypatov42052 ай бұрын
Can i use 6000mhz ram with my A620M Pro RS WiFi motherboard?
@Edgar-u8v9m2 ай бұрын
Is the x870e nova any good
@Makarov-sl9xk2 ай бұрын
Yes ofc it is the best motherboard in this price range which is 350 dollars and what it gives even makes the more expensive boards feel shit and i mean shit not bad not not worth it they feel shit and it gives a lot better value than the motherboards that are 50 to 60 dollars less
@robbrown1493Ай бұрын
MPG X870E Carbon/7900x/4080 or 4070ti/ would this work? looking for a audio gaming/music build-plz reply
@icemangtr1Ай бұрын
I wait my msi mobo in the next few days to arrive ❤
@icemangtr1Ай бұрын
7900x is decent cpu but if you want more fps prepare your wallet for x3d cpu
@icemangtr1Ай бұрын
Instead of 4070 buy 3090 better choice I go 3090 or 4080
@robbrown1493Ай бұрын
@@icemangtr1 i really wish i could have 4090, but here in canada prices are really high! you should make video pc build for canadians?
@speedstar198816 күн бұрын
That’s why I went with x870e Taichi ❤💪🏻
@wogozyt2 ай бұрын
I am disappointed, I feel like manufactures are holding out on us. These motherboards look exactly the same as the last 2/3 generations. It’s good see the half handful quality of life improvements but at the same time the boards have almost exactly the same features. USB 2.0 in 2024? You can basically only use them for keyboard and mouse (which most of them are Bluetooth anyway) and yet you still find so many of them. Give us more usb 3.2 and usb Cs instead that we can actually use them. SATA ports? Nvme have gotten cheap enough that you can buy severals and if you need more space DAS and NAS are affordable nowadays. Board sizes? ATX and E-ATX cost more then the high end CPUs and only a handful of people buy them which are either enthusiasts or people who know nothing about PCs and end up not even using half of the extra features anyway. Why are M and I motherboards offering still low? What about back connectors motherboards? Where are they? I think it’s time for manufacturers to step up or people will soon realising that there is no point in upgrading unless your good cpu is over 10 years old.
@ilaion112 ай бұрын
Mate, you left out Asrock, the best selling AMD platform boards on Newegg! What's wrong with ya?
@JosephKarthicАй бұрын
I bought asus x870e-e yesterday, is that bad?
@Rem0n89Ай бұрын
No good high end board, little expensive because of the ROG Tax, but it is a good mobo with a lot of features, enjoy it.
@reinsein5182 ай бұрын
ur not even taking the screws out on the hero for the video?
@MdMaruf-ts4qf2 ай бұрын
Great video
@smugboi471427 күн бұрын
i have to say it would be good to have more usb ports on the back since i use up all 11 usb ports on the aorus x570 xtreme and upgrading to a new hardware i would have to sacrifice almost half of them i also want to see more 90 degrees plugs for the 24, 8, 6 pin and for more cable management over all they are all good motherboards
@greendro64102 ай бұрын
Great video 🙂
@DennisRodriguez2 ай бұрын
Are they compatible with the upcoming RTX 5090 and Ryzen 9000 x3D?
@Madness8012 ай бұрын
The rtx 5090 is still using pcie gen 4 so you can use it with almost any mb and amd mb b650 b650E x670 and x670E can use any 7000 and 9000 seriese cpu you just need to update the bios if you have it dont waste money on the new mb
@DennisRodriguez2 ай бұрын
@@Madness801 Thanks 🙏🏻
@themarketgardener2 ай бұрын
@@Madness801 No the 5090 and 5080 uses pcie5.0 but it still is compatible
@deadchannelfrom20182 ай бұрын
No offense, but if you’re asking this, you probably don’t need a board like this.
@Kapono51502 ай бұрын
Been absolutely loving the X670E Hero, but try to find it on sale, don’t pay 599
@nickyjeanty43512 ай бұрын
I've been rocking a gigabyte ds3h matx since 2018 never had any issues with it until recently when I realized I didn't have enough space to add a WiFi card once I got my 7900gre, few hours ago I ordered the gigabyte x870 $289 with a 25$ discount thanks to thermaltake not including two pcie cables in their sfx psu
@MrRoro5822 ай бұрын
Are there no 800 series M-ATX boards? I have the Asus X670E ROG GENE. Also, I only see one ITX motherboard from ASUS, which is not the X870E version like the previous X670E itx.
@icemangtr1Ай бұрын
You gotta wait 11 months
@jwar21636 күн бұрын
After my horrible experience with Asus Crosshair Extreme X670E and the Asus RMA process and getting the MB back and still experiencing stability issues and usb disconnects. I am done with Asus. Not to mention that the EA anti cheat software crashes Armoury Crate and makes all EA titled games unable to be played on an Asus MB.
@nlbsunwolf6075Ай бұрын
What a joke--you leave asrock boards out. How much is ASUS paying you? The Nova and taichi crush everything on here from a price/feature/perf perspective.
@koraykorac54632 ай бұрын
Soooooooooooooooooo where is Asrock x870 Steel Legend and Pro RS. Best price motherboards for x870.
@MTheConquerorАй бұрын
Guys this guy has no clue of what he is talking about, ASRock 870E Taichi, and especially the 870E Nova are "Factually" the best choices right now...
@mauriciob82602 ай бұрын
The ASRock Gaming Nova WiFi X870E was restock few days ago on Amazon and Neweeg if you want to get it at retail MSRP price but guess what , already sold out again people are buying these board like hot bread 😅
@bonesnaps27 күн бұрын
Needs timestamps
@justatim81432 ай бұрын
Gigabytes was always My #1 chose but they made all their X870e boards with 6-layer PCB, Mid Loss signal vs 8-Layer low loss signal as even their B650 Elite boards came with 8-Layers until they cheeped out on their Ice Boards and on all their new boards except the Master for $500. To me the best is the Asrock NOVA for $350. I can no longer buy Gigabyte and Asus quality went down but they still charge you just for their Name.
@jessiewarlock9342Ай бұрын
At 3:55 a compatible ROOTER you mean a router
@goalieman2062 ай бұрын
I hope that these manufacturers didn’t make too many of these boards. The only people that are buying these are super high end Overclockers and if they’re that big into it then they’re buying the Rog board as it’s the “best” for overclocking. These boards are not gunna sell at all.
@deadchannelfrom20182 ай бұрын
Tell us you know nothing about productivity, without telling us you know nothing about productivity. 💀
@goalieman2062 ай бұрын
@@deadchannelfrom2018 no one cares about productivity. The market for productivity is much much less than gaming. That’s why Ryzen 9000 was a flop. The productivity was great but the gaming wasn’t good enough for the price.
@deadchannelfrom20182 ай бұрын
@@goalieman206 “no one cares about productivity” okay lmfao.
@christopherramsay55172 ай бұрын
Asrock x870e Nova wins. Still interested in msi godlike see what it does.
@bruce3579Ай бұрын
Asrock nova is the best board so far
@jamesp22182 ай бұрын
Question: What is max no. displays (4K @ 60Hz) which can be connected to these X870/X870E boards, to be driven from iGPU on 9900X? I understand all these boards have 1x HDMI and 2x USB 4 (supporting DP over USB). In principle, each USB 4 port could output to two 4K displays @ 60Hz (using an MST USB-C to dual DP adaptor). So I wonder whether it might be possible to drive FOUR, or even FIVE 4K @ 60Hz displays from the iGPU via X870/X870E Mobo? (of course, another limitation is max no 4K @ 60Hz displays supported by 9900X iGPU itself, I heard this might be a max of FOUR, but unconfirmed?) I am planning new build using Ryzen 9900X and an X870/X870E Mobo. Will not be used for gaming, for productivity only. I won’t install a discrete graphics card, will rely only on integrated graphics. I wonder if the answer is the SAME for all these X870/X870E Mobos, or would some of them allow to connect more 4K displays than others?
@blackw9262Ай бұрын
All three ASRock X870E models beat the rest, msi godlike is NO.1 but not for regular users, apparently asus is the most over priced brand
@fightinirish73kk2 ай бұрын
700 euros for crosshair hero only 2 pci no pci for sound card and capture card asus is taking the piss wow
@motomeraktv9482Ай бұрын
prime vs pro mag vs tuf aynı kalsmanıdamı yarışıyorlar . mag la pro yu karşılaştırsaydın bir nebze okeydide tuf ve pro birbirine muadil dedğil
@cochinada012 ай бұрын
Actually there isn't one single X870 motherboard on the market that supports 2 x M2 PCIe 5.0 and an expansion slot PCIe 5.0 x16 all connected at the same time. They will always share bandwidth and when 2 M2 are connected, the PCIEX16 slot operates at up to x8 mode. The only boards that don't have this restriction to my knowledge are paradoxically based on X670E. 3 are from ASUS, 1 from GIGABYTE and another from MSI but that's all.
@RaizuYT-vb5sv2 ай бұрын
Get a 870 Steel Series for the low price. Enjoy.
@Mrkek-sp3ug2 ай бұрын
No asrock ... you serious
@simplysimon9662 ай бұрын
Hardly any content makers talk about lane sharing with the GPU. If you use 2 x m.2 pcie 5.0 the GPU runs at x8 not 16. That concerns me. The Asrock Tichi and Nova don't. Wifi 7 is useless unless your router supports it and hardly anyone's does. USB 4.0, all my gear connects with older type usbs so you need adaptors. I will buy a 5090 and a 9800x3d they won't be inserted to any of these boards I'm afraid. Gave you a thumb up though :)
@wrcupz86852 ай бұрын
Nova vs Taichi Lite the rest is 🗑️
@3rd_PhaseSmith2 ай бұрын
X670E = X870E B650E = X870 800 series = waste of money.
@deadchannelfrom20182 ай бұрын
You must not know anything about overclocking or productivity. 💀
@minhtthach77542 ай бұрын
Yeah, for a person who doesn't know what mobo does
@MSaFuVaN642 ай бұрын
Promotion video This Asus and msi
@semtexxl40232 ай бұрын
Sponsored by Asus......
@grouikr7742Күн бұрын
Fishy YT channel
@Demonoid19902 ай бұрын
Getting anxious to see reviews for Intels new stuff. Hoping Arrow lake can bring back some competition. I'll be curious to see what the prices will look like, and if we'll see the efficiency improvements they're claiming. Ordered a pretty beefy air cooler rated at 280w TDP in preparation, along with the ASUS ProArt PA602 case. Should be little to no RGB, no water, and gonna try out Thermal Grizzly's Kryosheet graphene pads. Keep maintenance and cleaning simple and easy.
@nicholasmarshall31912 ай бұрын
You sound like the Gordon Ramsey of PC parts assessment. I mean that as a compliment.
@RalfJosefFries2 ай бұрын
Thanks to PCIe-lane-sharing by ALL X870E MoBo´s when you install an modernd 16 lane GraCard, you MUST let the upper PCIe-5 M2 Slot empty - or the M2 intalled there will "Steal" 8 of the 16 PCIe Lanes of the GraCard.... And even better: When you want to use USB-4 then you have to let a second M2-Slot empty! So in reality you have at best 2 M2-Slots for SSD + USB-4 + fast GraCard OR 3 M2-slots + fast GraCard but only slow USB OR 4 fast M2 Slots for SSD, only a "half-speed" GraCard and no USB-4 and the REALLY funny thing is that all those nice Producers of MoBo´s are mentioning the facts about PCIe-lane-sharing only in the most hidden parts of their documentations.... X870E - the worst new highend-chipset for motherboards for years....
@andr3w19852 ай бұрын
That's just not true. Ryzen 7000 and 9000 CPUs have 28 available PCIe 5.0 lanes. 4 of those lanes are reserved for the CPU -> chipset connection. Another 4 are reserved for the USB4 controller and are not shared with anything (MSI Godlike _may_ be the exception but we won't know for sure until they release the manual and block diagram). That leaves 20 lanes to share between M.2 and PCIe slots. In all cases (at least for the currently released boards) the first M.2 slot gets 4 dedicated lanes leaving 16 unadultered lanes for the GPU. For the currently available X870E boards, those 16 lanes are only shared if the board has an additional x8 or x4 PCIe 5.0 slot or if the board has a second or third PCIe 5.0 M.2 slot. In the case of the ASRock boards there is no lane sharing whatsoever between the main PCIe slot and the M.2 slots. The X870E Taichi, for instance, can accept 4 M.2 drives whilst supporting USB4 and providing all 16 lanes to the GPU. The X870E Nova steps that up a notch and can accept 5 M.2 drives whilst supporting USB4 and providing all 16 lanes to the GPU (although that fifth M.2 drive is limited to PCIe 3.0 x2 or SATA).
@nathanv95622 ай бұрын
Except for all the Asrock boards. They don’t lane share.