A compilation of the best scenes from HBO's Award Winning series Game of Thrones with the main characters discussing matters of Strategy, Politics and War. All footage property of HBO. Video compiled by Geek Clique
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@roscoe14275 жыл бұрын
Season One: "Only a fool would meet the Dothraki in an open field". Season Eight: "Robert knew me so well." ~ Cersei
@alphagamer95055 жыл бұрын
@BalFat the field of fire 2.0 even without drogon,the dotharki would won against the lannisters,they are mongols,they are the second people best at bows,only behinf the summer islands people
@nathansenters53075 жыл бұрын
@BalF Yeah, they are basically the Mongols. Martin makes a point of demonstrating their skill at mounted archery. In single combat, a given knight could defeat most of the Dothraki; but a people who's very purpose is battle will have a hard time losing against an army of conscripted farmhands, whatever banner they fly beneath.
@ryanmatthew054 жыл бұрын
@BalF Just read about the battle of Carrhae when the roman empire fought the Parthians. Romans had better armor and superior numbers, the Parthian cavalry completely crushed 7 legions.
@Luffy202134 жыл бұрын
@@ryanmatthew05 U forgot the fact that Parthians had heavy armoured cataphracts. The horse archers were mainly harrassing the legions to disrupt them. Little different than Mongols.
@stormbringer28403 жыл бұрын
@@ryanmatthew05 Did you actually read about the battle of carrhae or did you just searched " Horsemen army beat heavy infantry army " on google ? Because the dothraki can't be more dissimilar from the parthian , they don't even use parthian tactics to begin with .
@guillermorojasc5 жыл бұрын
Robert was a drunk, but he wasn't a fool.
@MHiggins5 жыл бұрын
Guillermo Rojas Exactly. He predicted exactly what was going to happen with the Targaryens and the Dothraki.
@technokokos5 жыл бұрын
He would most likely make great king if it did not went south with Lyanna, that just made him go on self detructing route.... actually no wait he was not that bad of a king, except for the debt, the kingdoms were totally stable under his rule and common people had peace.
@Tai-ey3lx5 жыл бұрын
Robert was the best king we saw. There was peace in the kingdom, the peasants were happy, and everyone but the Lannisters and Greyjoys were content. A good king knows what he does not know, and consults his advisors. Bobby B didn’t know much about politics and administration, but he got the best people on his small possible to handle it while he united the kingdom with his presence.
@sharpetutor2275 жыл бұрын
Guillermo Rojas He also wasn’t really a tyrant, he was just lazy.
@christianandreferminchong7645 жыл бұрын
I think Robert was right and wrong at the same time, Dothraki at open field will be suicide but I think Westorosi lords were too afraid of Dothraki to think for a strategy to kill them. Dothraki without horses are not really treat
@vladtheimpaler95775 жыл бұрын
"We still outnumber them" Look at Cersei, its like she didn't hear a thing Robert said. The moment the conversation moved to towns and villagers she went deaf.
@HassanKhan-sr2tq5 жыл бұрын
Well, what can anyone expect anything else from cersei?
@vladtheimpaler95775 жыл бұрын
@@HassanKhan-sr2tq I would have expected her to be a better actor and not wear her emotions on her sleves.
@brooklyn5605 жыл бұрын
Sounds like Cersei to me
@vladtheimpaler95774 жыл бұрын
@@brooklyn560 Its one thing to not care about civilian lives the way others do. Its another matter entirely when you don't even comprehend the concept of caring for small folk.
@franciscoancergomez39494 жыл бұрын
@@vladtheimpaler9577 Its true, villages and towns are the ones that farm animals and fruits. They are the people that give lords their armies. And they are the ones that house any merchants, knights, or messengers on their way to other places. The person who controls them is the one who would be king.
@himanshujain61585 жыл бұрын
scenes like these were the reason we all fell in love with game of thrones. Not because of "I DNT WANT IT" or SHE'S MUH QUEEN!
@nothajzl5 жыл бұрын
When you’re playing as Jon and dialogue choice comes up: “X” - i did it to save the North “Y” - i love you “A” - YOU’RE MY QUEEN! “B” - i don’t want it
@Chris-ve1st5 жыл бұрын
AH NEVUH WUNTED ET. SHE'S MUH QUEIN. THOSE ELEPHANTS... I WANTED THOSE ELEPHANTS. FOCKIN CASTLE! BLOODY COCKSUCKERS I AM THE THREE EYED RAVEN I AM NO ONE. MY DRAGONS, I WAS BORN TO RULE THE SEVEN KINGDOMS. repeat, and u get season7 and 8
@Chris-ve1st5 жыл бұрын
also I FOCKED THE QUEEN
@Priyo8665 жыл бұрын
Option E - "You'll always be my queen"
@michaelanderson38133 жыл бұрын
Absolutely! Amazing dialog
@firstlast98465 жыл бұрын
*Jorah discusses the importance of Armour* *many seasons later* *Is killed with blunt knife through solid armor by a zombie wearing a fur coat*
@seen2035 жыл бұрын
RIP good writing.
@MrRDRII5 жыл бұрын
Shay Michael Exactly. Thank you 🙏🏻
@FULANODETAL5 жыл бұрын
well whigts are 3 times stronger than normal humans
@seen2035 жыл бұрын
@@FULANODETAL Then how could regular humans hold one down on multiple occasions?
@serioushamster5 жыл бұрын
@@seen203 plot muscles
@Superunrealfighter4 жыл бұрын
Honestly that 5 and 1 speech by Robert is genius. Just the metaphor when he uses his clenched fist.
@thegreenreaper66602 жыл бұрын
Its quite fitting to society nowadays: Society itself is fractioned, splintered, almost every town and village having its own different problems.... where the Government is united as ONE....
@HbVki2 жыл бұрын
@@thegreenreaper6660 and thats why they keep on winning.. while we fight in comment sections.
@daegunbong8487 Жыл бұрын
Robert knew the Dothraki would just deathball every single opposition and either run around taking whatever they want, or eventually fighting their way to the Iron Throne.
@MrEtamsorojam Жыл бұрын
But I thought paper beats rock...
@maestroclassico5801 Жыл бұрын
In Season 8 when they were showing the previous season they showed that scene. Robert was prophetic.
@loquaciousjango42143 жыл бұрын
The real tragedy is that a lot of these scenes were not present in the books. When they actually had strongly defined characters and a well-written plot to lean on, those two could pen some damn impressive dialogue.
@swirik83642 жыл бұрын
Yet when they still had a well written plot like dorne and strongly defined characters like doran they still ruined them
@shanouboubou2 жыл бұрын
Actually true. In anger, we were many to say D&D can't write, but they wrote some pretty strong dialogues from S1 to S4. One of my favorite was the conversation between Tywin & Olenna in S3 when they discuss Loras & Cersei's union. Those two on screen trying to outplay each other was amazing to watch.
@Nemesis_T_Type2 жыл бұрын
D&D's mistake is trying to cram in everything that GRRM is planning to write about like Bran becoming King or Daenarys going mad instead of creating a more sensible alternate ending.
@SteelBallRun18902 жыл бұрын
@@Nemesis_T_Type Honestly, I think DnD were hoping that by the time they were in S4 GRRM would have at least finished Book 6 and was writing the final book. Look where we are now, we're in 2022 and GRRM still hasn't come out with Book 6, if GOT held back and stretched out the show to be as faithful to what little left they had in the books as possible they'd still be entering the phase of running out of material by now.
@Aswar2112 жыл бұрын
You really think those 2 wrote most of those "impressive" dialogues and not George?
@jettisone5 жыл бұрын
Robert was right about everything
@wokeaf13375 жыл бұрын
especially about going drunk hunting
@erosennin2115 жыл бұрын
@Fox Unix I was almost positive they added something to the wine to make it stronger, figure you'd have to to truly get a veteran drunk like Bobby B smashed enough to lower his reflexes.
@Drakhesh5 жыл бұрын
@Fox Unix Most likely the wine was discreetly fortified with pure spirits - something like vodka - as it does not change the taste of the wine all too much, while making it drasticly stronger.
@dclark1420024 жыл бұрын
Being right without the discipline to act on it is not much better than being wrong.
@sarangt44484 жыл бұрын
I really hope the prequel will have a young Robert strong,lean and smart. Cause I honestly think Robert is the Thor in endgame
@delydn5 жыл бұрын
Jorah: "But a man in full plate, the Arrak won't get through the steel. Season 7 Dothraki Blood Rider rips through Lannister armor like paper
@RustCohle0725 жыл бұрын
Dan Weiss: "Continuity? Bah! How's the prep for our Star Wars coming along, Dave?"
@MsJavaWolf4 жыл бұрын
In reality a broad sword doesn't go through armor either, you have to go for the gaps.
@huntersw24 жыл бұрын
@@MsJavaWolf why jorah emphasised the point
@Th3D4rkPho3n1x4 жыл бұрын
@@huntersw2 Yea but he said it is designed to pierce plate, which is simply not true, maybe in one in a million tries you will pierce plated armor with a broadsword...maybe but I still doubt it, but yes going for the gaps would be the way to go if you have a sword with you.
@huntersw24 жыл бұрын
@@Th3D4rkPho3n1x agreed i just assumed he meant the gaps in the armor not exactly peircing through properly forged armor
@JBrander5 жыл бұрын
Season 8 needs the dialogue stretcher! Now!
@haze32145 жыл бұрын
D & D run to search but never find it
@XiyuYang5 жыл бұрын
Nice
@anthonyortiz31425 жыл бұрын
@@haze3214 They "kinda forgot" to run.
@hitrapperandartistdababy5 жыл бұрын
God damn I love Robert quotes, Gods they where strong!
@vaibhavraj69545 жыл бұрын
Season 6, 7 & 8
@Immagonko5 жыл бұрын
I loved that Dothraki guy from the first scene He was super chill :D
@sonofjack62864 жыл бұрын
Rakharo
@nkl73453 жыл бұрын
Was a blood rider of Daenerys too so he was loyal and attained higher status
@Lite7273 жыл бұрын
Rack harp was underrated
@stevenhancock28223 жыл бұрын
@@nkl7345 He's still alive in the books, grew a few more inches, and now all of Danaerys' handmaidens argue with each other about who will get to sleep with him. Dude has become a badass. Another quality minor character so easily disposed of by D&D.
@nunyabiznes333 жыл бұрын
@@stevenhancock2822 he really cute
@alexanderward52864 жыл бұрын
“What’s the bigger number 5 or one?” “Five” “Five *raises 5 fingers*” “ One *Raises a Fist*” (I’m going to use that from now on)
@naadde3 жыл бұрын
Hopefully not for rock paper scissors
@killowatts69763 жыл бұрын
@@naadde owch
@DDD-qm1nj2 жыл бұрын
Fist is a 0 tho. Lmao
@jmathieson152 жыл бұрын
@@DDD-qm1nj a zero?….or 5 united 🤔
@DDD-qm1nj2 жыл бұрын
@@jmathieson15 lol. Hand symbols are for arithmetic means only. If someone asks you to "signal five", you make an open, extended hand to do it. NO SANE PERSON would make a fist and then say, "oh this is a five, but united". If you're doing this, then congratulations! You're the first of your kind in the REAL WORLD!
@berserk____18785 жыл бұрын
seven hells, I really missed these kinds of conversations between characters
@seen2035 жыл бұрын
Ironically, the best part of Season 8 was the small council meeting at the end of the last episode because it gave us just a tiny glimmer of Old School Thrones.
@krzysztofpiasek56825 жыл бұрын
@@seen203 Ph fucking gods no, it was terrible ending that totally destroyed what Martin was trying to show all this time. It gave no answers, it sets up stage for another civil war. Giving us instead of good ending a joke suitable for mere sitcom followed by another unfinished joke and a slow cut to Jon fucking off with wildlings. The master of the coin is a cutthroat that wanted to sell life of Hand of The King for a castle and that doesn't know basic rules of economy, followed by maester who broke his sacred vows with Gilly *two times* once for maesters vows and second for Nights Watch vows, then we have the only sane choice in all this shit being Davos and half of the small council not being named yet. The Reach is being rulled by Bronn, a lowlife cutthroat with no heritage. Great, they will be at open rebelion next Monday. The Stormlands are ruled by Gendry, not acknowledged bastard of Robert Baratheon legitimized by mad queen which burned a city and then died, for all they know he could be a random smith from flea bottom. Oh look, now there are two of them. Give me a break, that is a piss poor ending and a piss poor scene being final slap in the face saying *nothing* will be resolved.
@IsaiahRichards6924 жыл бұрын
“We should have a standing Army loyal to the Crown, trained by experienced soldiers, instead of a mob of peasants who’ve never held pikes in their lives!” -Joffrey’s one GOOD idea, and it’s shot down like an enemy plane!
@77777Spooky3 жыл бұрын
Actually, he had a point about dealing with Dany's dragons earlier too, when he was being owned by Tywin. Even a broken clock is right twice a day.
@TimeAce3 жыл бұрын
Meh it’s sorta right but the problem is that they’re medieval so they don’t have enough money to sustain it and what use is there for the standing army? they don’t fight people in essos and insurrections can be put down by the armies lords loyal to the crown provide
@thegreekdeal47473 жыл бұрын
It was a good idea at the wrong time so a bad idea. Cuz youre in the middle of a war and millions in debt how are you gonna pay for thousands of extra men and armor and training and housing when your city is overpopulated and starving. Imo it shows how out of touch he is.
@IsaiahRichards6923 жыл бұрын
Ask the US Army: they managed to pull it off somehow!
@rouskeycarpel14363 жыл бұрын
Not a good idea since in Westeros they don’t fight outsiders;only themselves.Westeros hasn’t been invaded by outsiders in 300 years,neither does the crown attempt to conquer other places in Westeros.The regions fight each other and as a result the loyalties of the soldiers in that standing army would be moreso towards their regional lords than to the crown.You also have to factor in that regions like the north,the iron islands and drone aren’t too fond of the crown like that.
@phrophetsamgames4 жыл бұрын
A broken clock is right twice a day, in this case Joffrey is right twice: “We need a standing army, loyal to the king.” “What of Daenarys Targaryen and her armies?”
@mysteryjunkie98082 жыл бұрын
Yeah the Byzantine Emperor Basil II did that when he created the Varangian Guard and it worked wonders for him.
@fiddlesticks72458 ай бұрын
@@mysteryjunkie9808 The Byzantines already had a standing army. The Varangians were a massive mercenary force that SUPPLEMENTED the pre-existing army.
@MrJustonemorevoice5 жыл бұрын
Ah, back when it was based on GRRMs story. "Gods the writing made sense then"
@brandonmooneyhan45085 жыл бұрын
bro would you fuck off im here trying to watch got clips and your whining like a bitch
@kurttyyduzit5 жыл бұрын
@@brandonmooneyhan4508 if you're trying to watch a video, then why are you in the comments? And why are you replying to statements not directed at you? You're the only one whining like a bitch.
@dannytheman6095 жыл бұрын
Thus brandon guy sounds like a bitch bitching about comments
@jtamiing5595 жыл бұрын
@@brandonmooneyhan4508 holy shit, a normie who dosnt respect good writing
@MXD14445 жыл бұрын
"broadsword...designed for piercing plate" *writing made sense*
@conmanreloaded42496 жыл бұрын
I hate to say it but Joffreys royal army idea actually makes sense
@mrneutral84235 жыл бұрын
Centralised levies belonging to the crown. A standing royal army makes sense, but Cersei was right in showing Joff how his mistakes fucked that idea up.
@SkepticalChris5 жыл бұрын
Cersei isn't stupid, but granted she's no genius either. When George RR Martin wrote her, she was cunning enough to survive. When HBO/D&D started writing her she just became dumber and dumber and always seemed to get her way despite doing stupid things.
@TheAireaidLord5 жыл бұрын
In a way, the Golden Company filled that role. Granted, they were lured by gold, but in concept that's how it would work.
@KarishmaChanglani5 жыл бұрын
It does but it would need to be fostered years decades even generations. You cant start something like that right after forcing taxes on your strongest vassals
@subutaynoyan53725 жыл бұрын
Idea is stupid enough. Joffrey obviously read about the unsullied or something. Thinking his kingdom should have a standing army. But standing armies are monstrously costly. They don't have too many wars in the seven Kingdoms, and their medieval economy can't support such an army. Standing army will also be unable to defend the counties and parishes. People won't be following any particular law but their own purse. There is a reason feudalism worked for ages.
@jdawg62735 жыл бұрын
These are the type of dialogues that made me fall in love with this story. Not the mythological aspects of the show, but the realistic and complex medieval politics, especially displayed in seasons 1-4. I miss it dearly
@janellejulianajoy4 жыл бұрын
Exactly. Honestly I saw the decline after Tywin died.
@SamudroEntertainment Жыл бұрын
Mark Addy didn't have Robert's towering physique but his booming voice is what I always imagined hearing when the King spoke.
@acoupleofgsanrandaneaniandann5 жыл бұрын
"place your catapults right at the front of your lines, even ahead of your defensive ditch" ~ NO ONE EVER
@UliaAB5 жыл бұрын
Pretty sure those were trebuchets, so it's actually even dumber. Catapults would have probably been more effective, though.
@frodobaggins66845 жыл бұрын
"Put your sunflowers out in front of your pea pods in Plants Vs Zombies"
@brent84075 жыл бұрын
Don't forget to send in your whole cavalry to die while you still can't even see the enemies yet.
@syedferoz21885 жыл бұрын
@@UliaAB trebuchets were effective at sieges though i possibly couldnt understand what it was doing in a pitch battle with the rocks just falling at one place if they had greek fire or an oil shower then it would be fine
@UliaAB5 жыл бұрын
@@syedferoz2188 Trebuchets were mainly for offense in sieges, though. They usually were used to wear down structural defenses. They also have a huge dead zone where they can't hit due to their minimum range, and the army they were facing was entirely made up of infantry. Smaller catapults loaded with flaming pitch or something similar would have been the obvious choice. Yeah, I also thought that the complete lack of burning oil on their walls against a bunch of ice zombies was pretty bad writing too. Nothing in that battle made much sense, except for the flaming trench, I guess.
@Noouuuuu5 жыл бұрын
"But a man in full plate, the arakh won't get through the steel" another thing D&D forgot.
@scottgrasser97375 жыл бұрын
yea it because to movie magicy in the end were armor is pointless i always think of return of the king were orcs rusted arrows and blades were somehow able to go though steel plate
@MasteringJohn5 жыл бұрын
In real life, longswords wouldn't pierce plate either. They could be angled into gaps, or the hilts could be used to bludgeon the enemy via half-swording, but ideally one would use hammers or poleaxes to deal with plate. There's a reason why armored knights on horseback were regarded as the tanks of the day.
@PwnZombie5 жыл бұрын
John Masters also how 90% plus of the troops would have only leather and cobbled iron
@syedferoz21885 жыл бұрын
@@MasteringJohn armored knights were too slow they could be killed by pikemen or halberds even by archers through armor piercing arrows or bodkins
@majungasaurusaaaa5 жыл бұрын
@@scottgrasser9737 It looked so silly having all these heavily armored gondorians slain by orcs armed with scrap metal.
@The2KXperience4 жыл бұрын
All these tiny moments of brilliance. Joffrey's idea about a royal, united, loyal army. Robert's brilliant war mind not fading even after decades of gluttony. None of these characters were perfect, but all had the ability to surprise us. What happened? Where did this show go? So many months later and I still can't believe we were brought so low from these incredible highs.
@alexanderchristopher62374 жыл бұрын
The2KXperience Under OUR conditions, the idea of a standing army would be great. But Joffrey lives in a feudal system. The Lords and High Lords are too strong compared to the king. Not to mentioned that the country is practically bankrupt at this point. Who’s gonna you for this army? Without pay, they’ll disband.
@user-uf9lz5wz4n Жыл бұрын
Robert has driven the country into debt. Joffrey had no money for the regular army. Do you think it never occurred to the Kings in the Middle Ages to create a regular army like Rome? They didn't have money for it.
@shadowofhawk55 Жыл бұрын
@@alexanderchristopher6237 The general idea of having a core of skilled and equipped fighters wasn’t bad, he was just thinking too big of a scale. Couple thousand young men from the crown lands outfitted with a decent helmet, a cuirass, a crossbow, a shield and a spear with either an axe or mace as a back up weapon drilled and trained for 6 to 8 months is a lethal unit when put up against the levies most other factions would raise.
@lordsathariel4384 Жыл бұрын
@@shadowofhawk55 and the thing is his idea would be a good one since realistically tywin should have done this but for the lannisters not the king because all of his men are paid or fear his house same with joffrey no one fights for them but if tywin at some point had put the effort into a small trained elite fighting force he would have been better off and so would joffrey it's like bron said alot of the kingsguard after barristan left are very soft for solider's or guards to the point bronn a cutthroat sellsword who is very pragmatic and thoughtful about who he is willing to fight was prepared to take two kingsguard which if the kingsguard lived up to their reputation he would never have been willing to escalate. so i think joffrey while a cruel idiot was reasonbly smart in terms of ideas but he lacked the understanding of things to execute his ideas properly. like imagine if unstead of incompetent the kingsguard were like say the Sardaukar from dune or the disfavored from the game tyranny they have small numbers compared to everyone else but their skill is around 10 leagues above everyone else similar to the kingsguard before all the good members died or were forced out
@shadowofhawk55 Жыл бұрын
@@lordsathariel4384 The Core of the Lannister army were actually regulars and career soldiers. The idea itself wasn’t stupid, Joffrey’s wanting to use all of Westeros as his core demographic was stupid. What I would’ve done is gone to the hill tribes and bought kids from them. Give them over to warriors like the Hound for drilling and Joffrey himself to teach the use of the crossbow (cause he is damn good with that weapon) and drill and drill these savage hinterlanders into warriors loyal only to Joffrey. Kinda like Daemons Gold Cloaks but from better warrior stick.
@abhishekshah115 жыл бұрын
Season 8 was a disgrace to the legacy S1 built.
@vortix19745 жыл бұрын
where you even born when season 1 started?
@edalkarvel58655 жыл бұрын
true
@vaibhavraj69545 жыл бұрын
Same goes to Season 6,7 & half of season 5
@playea1235 жыл бұрын
That's what people don't get. The show set its own standards. Seasons 5-8 were a massive departure from those standards.
@921Ether5 жыл бұрын
@@playea123 george rr martin set the standards^^
@carlosmartel46463 жыл бұрын
Strategy: Robert Baratheon Politics: Petyr Baelish War: Bronn Bull$hit: season 8
@saasproductions30533 жыл бұрын
With Bronn I say he was more aware of the gritty reality of the world, not war in general, just what the commoners go through in war and what lengths they would go to survive or profit.
@4645283 жыл бұрын
Bronn was just a skilled thug, not a war expert. He was just recycled the last seasons for fanservice
@gerardcollins803 жыл бұрын
Hotel: Trivago
@saifuddin44943 жыл бұрын
For war, i would say stannis
@drzoidberg46013 жыл бұрын
Strategy: Stannis Politics: Renly War: Robert
@BooN8773 жыл бұрын
The shock on Roberts face at hearing the mad kings last words. No one ever asked, Jamie never told. The death of a king and no one asked any questions, they made up their own stories.
@whittpond88039 ай бұрын
There's an old saying "History is a set of lies agreed upon." Attributed to Napoleon.
@borris37685 ай бұрын
Cringe
@Xylarxcode5 жыл бұрын
Robert basically predicted exactly what Daenerys ended up doing. She united her armies behind one single purpose. Take the Iron Throne for their queen. They even saw her coming from miles away and did nothing to stop her, aside from a few unsuccessful assassination attempts. While Dany was creating her single army, united behind a single purpose, the armies of Westeros grew ever more fractured and scattered and gradually reduced in size until there weren't even enough men left to defend King's Landing. Cersei had to hire the Golden Company just to be able to match the numbers of Dany's army. And keep in mind, this is AFTER Dany's army has been cut in half from fighting off the Night King. Had Dany been able to use her complete army, she wouldn't have needed Drogon to burn the place down. She would have been able to easily overwhelm them with sheer numbers.
@ashkara86525 жыл бұрын
She could have sailed directly to King's Landing on the first episode of Season 7 and taken the capital in a single day.
@boyarkabya40005 жыл бұрын
Ashkar Ibne Awal She kinda forgot tho
@OmsoiTekken5 жыл бұрын
I agree with everything you've said though I do believe Dany would have used Drogon regardless of the amount of troops she had.
@GoranXII5 жыл бұрын
If Drogon alone could collapse the red keep he could sure as hell have collapsed every gatehouse they wanted to go through.
@tbeller805 жыл бұрын
In early season 7 she didn't have the emotional baggage of two dead dragons, Missandei dead, Jon being a rival, her advisors giving her bad strategies, realizing the North didn't like her, etc.
@ottovonbismarck76465 жыл бұрын
"The broadsword is designed for piercing plate" *Ser Jorah then holds up a European style sword, meant for slicing, and it would probably never get through plate either*
@TheThoughtAssassin5 жыл бұрын
I noticed that too. A broadsword 100% will never penetrate full plate armor. He could have instead pointed out its versatility, and how it’s easier to thrust and cut into the exposed parts of the armor set like the armpits and groin.
@BALLARDTWIN5 жыл бұрын
@Guts390 he obviously meant stabbing with a longsword is easier to target Imagine having a shield a and a sword Block and stab right towards his throat Or block and stab his gut under his breast plate Maybe even swing at his knee armour is weaker at the joints Plus it worked for the Muslim saracens and they had curved swords They simply used speed to their advantage Managed to win the crusades and storm right up to vienna
@nraketh5 жыл бұрын
I always assumed he meant stabbing into the gaps, penetrating the gambeson and any mail armor. Obviously a sword isn't going to punch its way through plate.
@ottovonbismarck76465 жыл бұрын
@@nraketh but he said "piercing plate". No one, unless you're stupid, calls a gambeson or mail "plate", for tis not plate.
@TheSTFU19964 жыл бұрын
@Sir Knight Errant Yes they can using technique called half-swording. There are good videos on the subject here on YT. Plate, also, can be pierced with warhammers, maces, axes, poleaxes and crossbows
@SnillhundReal5 жыл бұрын
Swords weren't made to pierce armor, they have problems getting through them actually. Hammers were made to crush armor, which is why they were even used, despite their weight and how slow they are
@jacklang33145 жыл бұрын
Think Jorah got confused this mail, which a sword can get through but not always.
@SnillhundReal5 жыл бұрын
@@jacklang3314 would at least make more sense
@wellyck5 жыл бұрын
Armor have gaps. Armpits, neck, some parts of the chest depending of the armor. In medieval times the only way to kill a downed knight was piercing the gaps in his armor, mostly the face and neck. You cant do that with a curved blade.
@SnillhundReal5 жыл бұрын
@BalF yes, well that was not an estoc
@SnillhundReal5 жыл бұрын
@@wellyck i get that, but that explenation does not match up with Jorah's here. He presents them as if they pierce armor, which they do not
@stewiegriffin123413 жыл бұрын
That scene of Robert and Cersei was magnificent. Robert was a great character.
@spartangreg14 жыл бұрын
I find it ironic and interesting that Robert and Joffrey had the same idea. "One... one army, a real army, united behind one leader with one purpose."
@rajausamarauf29824 жыл бұрын
it means Joffery has 1% DNA from Robert and other 99% from Jamie
@yanivgalmor17473 жыл бұрын
@@rajausamarauf2982 cersie doesnt exist apperntly
@justdan9264 Жыл бұрын
@yaniv galmor Joffrey got her stupidity
@agustinrico330411 ай бұрын
They might’ve actually gotten along if Robert actually took part in Joffreys life, they clearly have the same idea of how to work armies and could’ve gotten along with that
@spartangreg111 ай бұрын
@@agustinrico3304 Yeah I was always curious about that. Some people think if Robert stuck around to be a father and survived the boar attack that he'd possibly level out Joffrey. I always thought deep down he wanted to be a good kid but his impulses made him lash out.
@bridgecross3 жыл бұрын
Joffrey wasn't wrong about a standing army. He wanted to consolidate power, weaken the feudal system, and train a professional army loyal to the crown. And he wanted to take action immediately after news of the dragon's birth. He had the right ideas to keep his family in power, but not the mien to convince Cersei or Tywin. The first 5 seasons were really about characters doomed by their own faults. That's what made it precious to me.
@ottokarl5427 Жыл бұрын
He didn't have the money, either. The crown was broke and so were the Lannisters. They could have never afforded a standing army. It was a common problem all through all of medieval Europe
@Crichjo3211 ай бұрын
It's ironic that the illegitimate, evil asshole king had the best and most ambitious ideas. For all his faults, Joffrey did sometimes think big and a bit more outside the box than most characters. Of course most of these ideas were probably unrealistic but even still. He had neither the wit nor commanding presence to convince others of it.
@Isuream63316 ай бұрын
@@Crichjo32 If only these ideas came to a king who was a better person, with a better position.
@williamstowaway11155 жыл бұрын
I got to say a royal army was actually a good idea.
@stuffylamb34205 жыл бұрын
Joffrey actually pretty smart despite being an evil little twat. He wanted to kill Dany before she grew more powerful, the royal army idea, and he wanted to be involved in small counsel meetings. If Joffrey had his way, Dany would have been dead before she could reach King's Landing and you can be DAMN sure those religious zealots would never have gained power. The High Sparrow would have his head chopped off the second he tried anything lol. Tommen was weak and easily manipulated. I'd almost take a Joffrey/Margaery over what we ended up getting lol.
@kimok47165 жыл бұрын
Well I don't think so. Surely you're thinking about the Hundred Years war which demonstrated how professional armies were superior to levies. But the Hundred Years war wasn't fought in a country the size of South America. Westeros is too vast to be a centralised state with only one royal army. Furthermore at this point in time, the Baratheon dynasty is still newly established, and it is very unlikely such a law could be passed without causing some if not many lords to rebel, as it would require massive amounts of money to maintain an army of around 50 000 (the minimum required to fight a powerful ennemy invading like Khal Drogo) Maybee a reduced professional army, that would be completed with levies in war time could be useful. The french did this at the end of the 100 years war with great success. They maintained 10 000 permanent fully equipped horsemen which helped tearing the english to pieces at the battles of Formigny and Castillon. I don't know if I'm right, but I think this project isn't feasible in Westeros at that point in time. Too many scheming lords and not enough gold.
@kimok47165 жыл бұрын
@@stuffylamb3420 Also Dany escaped at least 2 assassination attempts including one by a wine merchant (who probably heard about the reward offered by Robert Baratheon ) and one by the faceless men. She was only saved by Barristan Selmy and Jorah Mormont. So the Iron Throne didn't just sit there while Daenerys was building its forces. Although they could have send more assassins, especially after Robb Stark's death, when the Lannisters had free hands in Westeros.
@tbeller805 жыл бұрын
Standing armies are expensive, and even if they weren't you'd have to eliminate the loyalty issues from Westerosi society. The only sure way to do that would be to dissolve the nobility as political leaders and instead have centrally-appointed governors. Those governors could not have immediate access to the professional army lest they become imperial Roman governors always trying to rebel which means having some kind of regional militia on the payroll in addition to the national army. Even then it would take decades to weed out feelings of geographic loyalty in the population.
@ironfreddy31925 жыл бұрын
@@kimok4716 Where did you get this information about French having a standing army in the period of the Hundred years war? Especially 10 000 horsemen.
@milostosic28625 жыл бұрын
"Only a fool will meet the Dothraki in the open field" ...Aaaaah, now I got it better the Long Night battle charge of Dothraki... Obviusly that corpses in White walkers army doesnt have a brain at all....
@tudorinbogdan2405 жыл бұрын
Only a fool would charge at The Army of the Dead on an open field.
@bradensmook47875 жыл бұрын
Honestly that is kind of an exception due to the undead just being a huge wave of bodies clashing into them
@lancehvu5 жыл бұрын
Seriously though, why would you just charge at a horde of numbers you know far outnumber yours with troops who lack any sense of self preservation. I'm by no means a strategist, but they could've used the Dothraki better by having them skirt around the castle constantly to sweep and kill walkers while the ground troops engaged in combat with the brunt of the white walker forces.
@milostosic28625 жыл бұрын
Yes...you do not have be a strategist to conclude that...But you must have a bit sense of humor to conclude that my comment was nothing but a joke on bad writings of D&D...If you still dont get it,please type Irony or ironia in psychology...
@erosennin2115 жыл бұрын
@@lancehvu In the middle of the night in pitch black darkness no less. The Long Night was a disgrace of an episode.
@thesenate59135 жыл бұрын
Robert wasnt a great king He's a good king But he is a great general when it comes to war
@SSJGreg5 жыл бұрын
Yato Kun “he’s a good king”
@thesenate59135 жыл бұрын
@@SSJGreg a great king didnt have crippling debt did he?
@richardroopnarine8705 жыл бұрын
Robert was a great war leader, he left the running of the seven kingdoms to Jon Arryn.
@sumantachakraborty93595 жыл бұрын
Besides with tywin Lannister and stannis book one .
@cars814342 жыл бұрын
He was neither. Yeah he was good cause he didn’t do anything violent towards other people expect when he’s insulting them. He was only good at crushing down battles. All he did was drinking and fucking while he let his council run the country without noticing he was losing money into a huge debt
@TheBiakko5 жыл бұрын
Back when GOT had real dialogs...
@BoundInChains5 жыл бұрын
He incested on doubling their taxes.
@jungschiffer84234 жыл бұрын
You mean insisted?
@BoundInChains4 жыл бұрын
@@jungschiffer8423 no.
@rashidgaylon12364 жыл бұрын
"incested"
@mq90473 жыл бұрын
LOL
@khumothage46293 жыл бұрын
@Pedro Caldas I think this flew over their heads.
@karydanzine9165 жыл бұрын
I always respected robert for his keen war observation
@thechosenone15335 жыл бұрын
This six minute video is 10 times better than 6 hours of Season 8.
@piscesman745 жыл бұрын
Sad but true
@howmanynamesaretaken5 жыл бұрын
S1 Jorah: "Armor keeps a man alive" S8 Jorah: Dies getting stabbed by rusted 1000 year old blades swung by withered skeletons right through his plate armor.
@brooklyn5605 жыл бұрын
To be fair the wights that killed him were just raised and were about 3times stronger than they were when they were a live
@majungasaurusaaaa5 жыл бұрын
"Plot armor keeps a man alive". Fixed it for ya.
@chickenman78014 жыл бұрын
@@brooklyn560 How did plate save Brienne and Jaime then?
@brooklyn5604 жыл бұрын
Chicken Man they had valyrian plot plates as armor
@antoniodee72455 жыл бұрын
Robert is basically Thor in endgame
@BlackDiamond27184 жыл бұрын
Antonio Dee robert may not be worthy of the hammer but he is worthy of using one.
@arisnikou044 жыл бұрын
@@BlackDiamond2718 well, Robert's favorite weapon was the big hammer he used to kill Rhaegar, soo
@MusaMansu3 жыл бұрын
@@arisnikou04 I’m pretty sure that GRRM based Robert on Thor to an extent. He’s 6’6, a great warrior, he uses a hammer and his title is the Stormlord.
@dayarih12172 жыл бұрын
@@MusaMansu Wait Robert is 6/6? Wtf?
@Serghey132 жыл бұрын
@@dayarih1217 yep, in the books atleast
@freebird2643 жыл бұрын
Robert and Stannis were easily the two best generals in the whole show. Even as a drunk overweight king with no real interest in ruling, Robert still had a warrior's mind for battle-strategy. It's honestly no surprise his side won the Rebellion with him at its forefront.
@samuelh.21185 жыл бұрын
That first scene is hilarious because apparently small, probably blunt daggers wielded by wights and reinforced with plot armor can slice through full plate in Season 8. The same plate that saved Jorah in S1. *ok*
@barneydenstad21483 жыл бұрын
I suppose these weapons become half magical in the hands of these undead, whom themselves become super strong. So even an old, rusty blund blade worked as if made of good valyrian steel...
@chrismarple3 жыл бұрын
@@barneydenstad2148 lol no it’s called bar writing
@tadeasburger81913 жыл бұрын
Season 8's contribution: "dID yOu KNoW eUnUChs hAVE nO CocK LEL xD"
@benmoore28555 жыл бұрын
The meme of Robert laughing that goes “when you realize your bastard son banged the girl who killed the night king who took on the Dothraki in the open field.” 😂😂
@stateofflorida50826 ай бұрын
As neglectful as he may be as a king, Robert was very good at his specialization of warfare.
@Hieillua5 жыл бұрын
The writers could've rewatched their own show to see what good writing was like. Or maybe read a few GRRM books while they're at it.
@darthjump5 жыл бұрын
This is the show i fell in love with. Now....ashes....ashes and madness.
@davidmccallum22912 жыл бұрын
Madness, Madness and Stupidity - Tywin Lannister
@datuangela2 жыл бұрын
@@davidmccallum2291 love that from Tywin
@thebugman8696 Жыл бұрын
"It's a neat little trick you do, you move your lips and your father's voice comes out." Haha that's great.
@oguzhanisk68763 жыл бұрын
''Only a fool would meet the Dothraki in an open field'' Night King: and i took that personally
@ladymercy52754 жыл бұрын
Jorah: "It's *armor* not a steel dress." Syrio: "Now we begin the dance."
@Charlisimo1235 жыл бұрын
Is funny how in the earlier seasons they took the armor concept with heart, but in the later seasons armor meant shit and could pierce easily like they were wearing regular clothes.
@Stratigoz5 жыл бұрын
Armour does not make you invincible. Not at all. Especially lower cost armour usually massed produced for the lower ranks soldiers.
@artski095 жыл бұрын
@@Stratigoz one properly fitted and trained knight is practically invincible when fighting one-one or vs a small group
@ethanbridgett93955 жыл бұрын
That's why properly fitted and trained knights were slaughtered en mass in sieges and field battles in the hundred years war. Fucking moron.@@artski09
@sertonetix5 жыл бұрын
@@ethanbridgett9395 A man at arms or the common foot soldier is not a trained knight, and yes without the right weapon (crossbow / Warhammer) it's really difficult to kill or even wound a knight. And btw, it's not because Azincourt is one of the most famous battles of the hundred years war, that's what happened in this battle happened everyday.
@ethanbridgett93955 жыл бұрын
A man-at-arms is not a trained knight, no shit, hes not a fucking knight, hes a man-at-arms. But he is trained, and very much so. If it was difficult to kill or wound a knight, French heavy cavalry would've have gotten slaughtered in battles they were used in.@@sertonetix
@mellowenglishgal4 жыл бұрын
Robert and Cersei's conversation about the Dothraki and what holds the Kingdoms together and Lyanna Stark's face will always be one of my favourite scenes of the whole series...and it was written as a 'filler' scene because they didn't have enough footage for an entire hour! That's the quality of writing I miss.
@anableu49375 жыл бұрын
Gods the dialogue was strong then
@magicdee5 жыл бұрын
HERE’S THE KICKER. So many of these scenes don’t even exist in the books! D&D and co wrote them! That Cersei and Robert scene. Not in the book. So we KNOW the capability was there. Which just makes the season 8 pill even harder to swallow.
@MrHotguy0343 жыл бұрын
I love how GOT is a fictional place , but applies every bit to our world... great writing.
@karroq5 жыл бұрын
The dialogue was always the best part of the show. Strategy, and sense. Something most of season 7 and almost all of season 8 lacked.
@gurmansinghtakhar50985 жыл бұрын
Season 8 war strategy: *DRACARYS*
@joeschmoe36653 жыл бұрын
I feel bad for Robert he wasn't cruel or unjust and he kept the peace for seventeen years, overthrew the mad king, crushed the Greyjoy rebellion and he was strong and good at making enemies into friends. He was just not interested in schemers or backstabbing which he says to cersei in a great conversation and even if you think that he was a drunk fool, look what happened as soon as he died the realm torn itself to pieces over schemes and plots and none for the better. Robert posessed the three most important features the power to keep other families in check and if not, the strength of leadership to quell uprisings fast and lastly the ability to reintergrate an enemy quickly back into the fold.
@dionadair8195 Жыл бұрын
Honestly, Jorah and Rakhoro's conversation is one of my favorites in the show. It's a meeting of two cultures, with two experienced warriors discussing the pros and cons of their different fighting methods. It's the kind of thing I wish more medieval and medieval-style books and shows would utilize, both to show the diversity of their worlds and to create interesting character interactions. Joffrey has one of his rare intelligent moments, even if it only lasts that long here. He actually recognizes that the feudal system is ineffective, especially because it allows local lords a great deal of power. However, this reforming spirit comes from a place of believing that he deserves all the power and respect, and he fails to recognize that messing with the North on their home turf is a terrible idea without dragons. Contrast this with Cersei, who is far more conservative, but also experienced. She plays the game well, but has few long-term goals and never does much with her power. Syrio Forel is amazing, and that's that. He's the perfect character to introduce Arya to combat, and is instrumental in setting up the smol assassin we know and love. The scenes between them also show that, while Arya is stubborn, she's also a quick learner, and once she starts to open up her mind to learning something (especially something she enjoys), her progress is rapid. Love him or hate him, Robert is an excellent commander, a pragmatic strategist, and a powerful warrior (well, maybe not that anymore, but he killed a boar while drunk so there's that). This is another scene that illustrates Cersei's future failure: she's overconfident. She believes everyone to be less than her, and she thinks that just because she plays the game better than anyone means she can rule better than anyone. In a respect, she's much like Robert: she believes winning and ruling are the same. And the entire realm is screwed because of it (well, that and Littlefinger). You were so close, Ned. You understood Littlefinger's lessons, but failed to realize that you needed to give him the best offer as well. Bronn really was the best option for running the city guard. He knows how both sides of the law work, he can fight and command men, and he takes zero crap. Not to mention, he's paid by Tyrion, and together they're a highly effective combination.
@Crichjo3210 ай бұрын
Bronn survives until the end, because he knows exactly how the world he lives in works. It's kill or be killed, and he can't allow himself to be attached or sentimental towards anything or anyone. He has no honour, because as we see with Ned, that will just get you killed. Bronn is about as morally grey as you can get. He's not evil, but he also will cut your throat if someone paid him enough money to do it.
@JugCityKid4 жыл бұрын
GRRM: And what did the mad fans say about s8 after you stabbed them in back? D&D: The same thing they'd be saying for hours. "Re-write it all!""
@dirdib692 жыл бұрын
Syrio was so much fun. Of course, they loaded him down with cool lines, since he wasn't around for long. He taught Arya the value of speed and skill over strength. Unfortunately, he also taught her that no one she cares about was safe. And of course, "what do we say to the god of Death"? I always thought that hearing this line again reminded her of him and helped give her strength.
@MSFT813 жыл бұрын
These convos were the real hook for me..this logic and strategy was something I hadn't experience on screen.
@LagPwnr Жыл бұрын
I love how witty Robert is. He is a true Baratheon
@Deagnetic5 жыл бұрын
That first scene aged well.
@roderigo1112 жыл бұрын
Those words of Robert resonated in the mind of Cersei when she saw Danerys of House Targryean- 1 ruler,1army(dothraki+unsullied+3 dragons) march to Red Keep and brought her down.
@Tony-hq9cl Жыл бұрын
The 5 versus 1 discussion with King Robert is one of my favorite from any show.
@terrybogard89225 жыл бұрын
Meanwhile in the season 8... soldiers outside of the walls, dorthakis dying for free vs the nk, etc
@Rackhark5 жыл бұрын
also the dothaki are basically multiplying like ants. They are everywhere.
@doublep19805 жыл бұрын
They use a respawn cheat.
@flagflow12325 жыл бұрын
They respawn whenever the plot needs them to
@frname76653 жыл бұрын
@@flagflow1232 Winterfell: "What you're seeing is basically the end of the Dothraki" Kings Landing 2eps later: *hundreds of Dothraki flood the city streets*
@jak00bspyr722 жыл бұрын
Its amazing that Joffrey actualy came up with a clever idea of establishing a standing royal army and had a really good point.
@TheSchemer1 Жыл бұрын
Clever but impractical
@jak00bspyr72 Жыл бұрын
@@TheSchemer1 Depending on the level of development of the Seven Kingdoms. Feudalism was introduced becouse medieval countries were administered too ineffective and were not developed enough to organise and finance standing armies. But if the Seven Kingdoms could tax the population efficiently, a centralised army could be introduced instead of private household armies, increasing the stability of the Realm.
@tim68705 жыл бұрын
Robert was the best King. I don't know why everyone always acts like he was just a fat drunk he was achually wise strong and certainly no fool
@Makkajakka5 жыл бұрын
The main problem with King Robert was that he bankrupted the realm with his constant tourneys and whoring leaving the crown 6 million gold dragons in debt to the iron bank by the time Ned Stark became hand of the king. He also attended only 3/4 small council meetings in his 17 years as king, leaving many who saw him regularly with a dim view of his tenure as king.
@tim68705 жыл бұрын
@@Makkajakka ,yeah sure but the tournaments kept the people entertained. And Robert was wise enought to know that he was not good at ruling so he left his small council alone filled with competent men capable of ruling well.
@alexanderchristopher62374 жыл бұрын
@@tim6870 well, entertainment isn't the only thing needed to keep the people in line.
@tim68704 жыл бұрын
@@alexanderchristopher6237 well the people never revolted against him he was the last undesputed king
@BALLARDTWIN4 жыл бұрын
@@alexanderchristopher6237 The crown was bankrupted not the kingdom which was flourishing under king Robert's reign
@hansholbein10472 жыл бұрын
Joffrey making sense about the standing army is one of the weirdest experiences in my life
@Supersquigi Жыл бұрын
Geoffrey wasn't dumb, but he was extremely cruel and as soon as he had power he didn't have any experience in how to use it and acted as the child he was.
@ismailniyaz51675 жыл бұрын
"Armor makes a man slow, but also keeps him alive." You couldn't tell when the White Walkers were piercing through his armor like knife through butter.
@donalddeluxe64074 жыл бұрын
Nobody: Joffrey: the north should be punished because they are doing nothing.
@weedsmoke87763 жыл бұрын
Joffrey’s idea of a Royal Army is actually pretty good. And effectively what we have today.
@jackparker86022 жыл бұрын
Logistically impossible in a medieval world
@weedsmoke87762 жыл бұрын
@@jackparker8602 It's not logistically impossible. Many civilisations such the Romans, the Mongols, the Timurids and the Byzantines had unified and disciplined militaries that were loyal to the monarch/emperor and not the local feudal lord.
@TheOldBlackShuckyDog Жыл бұрын
@@jackparker8602 Not really, it's literally what followed after feudalism
@jonasmcguire35895 жыл бұрын
King Robert only man that could dominate Cersei.
@faissalel73635 жыл бұрын
We saw Jaime dominating her pretty well aswell
@wokeaf13375 жыл бұрын
he didnt , Cersei fucked her brother under the king's roof lol
@The_Gerry_Man5 жыл бұрын
also tywin
@tacticalcrusader37093 жыл бұрын
@@wokeaf1337 That's because Robert didn't give a shit about her or what she was up to.
@lennbase22763 жыл бұрын
Um... I'm pretty sure she killed him but ok LOL
@lucasdamotta29312 жыл бұрын
A professional standing army...that was the best idea Joffrey had in his entire life.
@Tteaspoon10315 жыл бұрын
Who woulda thought this video would have such importance to real fans of the show 7 yrs later. Well done on readin the future.
@juanwong62103 жыл бұрын
For me Robert was an excellent King, he listened to his advisors and had experience.
@wheredidileavemycell5 жыл бұрын
Syrio Forel: What do you say to the god of good writing? Dan & Dave: Not today
@frederickiiprussia76998 ай бұрын
Of all scenes, Robert's has proven the most foretelling; In real life, his metaphor was EXACTLY what happened to Napoleon Bonaparte in his experience during the 1st, 2nd, 6th coalitions, his campaign in Italy, and the Hundred days campaign. Singular, solidified, coordinated, unity behind 1 leader can match odds stacked 10 to 1 against
@garyfrombrooklyn2 жыл бұрын
Bronn is now in charge of the Reach, providing food for the rest of the six kingdoms. His family will become the wealthiest ever.
@isaaclopez62475 жыл бұрын
Everything was amazing when George R.R. Martin kept an eye on dumb and dumber. Remember that he supported D and D with the scripts of the first seasons.
@sumantachakraborty93595 жыл бұрын
@@wokeaf1337 yes . Thst dumb ass maybe doesn't finish it in his lifetime
@RigbyWilde2 жыл бұрын
Joffrey's Royal Army idea actually makes sense. Its the start of the formation of modern nation-states. With a regular army loyal the central govermment rather than various local forces who can shift sides quickly. We DO SEE this happening in the show
@joshobrien34672 жыл бұрын
Really loved the language back and forth with Jorah and Rakharo, felt very organic
@joebeuselinck632510 ай бұрын
Robert: “Only a fool would meet the Dothraki in an open field.” Jorah: “King Robert is fool enough to meet them in open battle.” Always liked that Jorah, someone we’re shown to be wise and militarily sharp, underestimates Robert in this way. Everyone looked at Robert as a fool, but he was just tired…
@JoSheperd7 ай бұрын
He probably tried to get on the good side of Dany with that line about Robert
@miracozturk3 жыл бұрын
“We’ve got as many armies as there are men with gold in their purse “.. soo true in every way in any time anywhere in the history !
@jakehanson2164 жыл бұрын
That 5 to 1 is some real shit. In most professions
@cormacredmond9725 жыл бұрын
This comment section is gold
@zyzzsdisciples67072 жыл бұрын
Joffrey kind of reminds me of Radovid from the Witcher. Brutal, ruthless, but clearly very gifted.
@CastlesKingSide5 жыл бұрын
pretty cool how later in season 1 jorah gets saved by his armor in a fight he was otherwise clearly losing
@ahmedbader68665 жыл бұрын
that was the first and last time armor did its purpose in game of thrones
@CastlesKingSide5 жыл бұрын
@@ahmedbader6866 almost agree. i mean merryn trant woudn't have been able to grab syrio's wooden sword and hold it properly without a gauntlet. and there would be jamie's golden hand trick vs the dornish soldier(Though alright that's not armor per say). Other than that it only maybe cushioned some hits (mb grey worm vs sons of harpy comes to mind) and forced fighters only to cut along certain angles....but yeah... not really worth it. And as Jorah points out the broadsword is also good at thrusting, and we saw a fair few deaths by thrusts
@ahmedbader68665 жыл бұрын
Also the mountain vs the hound , ser gregor's armor worked for a time but then all logic went through the window when the hound thrust his sword through the plate armor
@CastlesKingSide5 жыл бұрын
@@ahmedbader6866 if i remember correctly, it can be done, and right below the chestline, is one of the places where it is possible to stab through plate armor
@crazyscotsman93274 жыл бұрын
@@CastlesKingSide No. The only thing that can get through plate armor consistantly to kill with a piercing blow is something like a lance at full gallop, or a poleaxe. It is actually really hard to kill a man in plate armor.
@coltonwhite25182 жыл бұрын
Funnily enough medieval armor isn't actually all that heavy. Your average knight in full plate could full sprint 20 yards with relative ease. To veteran knights armor was practically a second skin that offered full protection, mobility, and drip. The only real hazard was being prone to heat strokes during particularly hot weather. That, and Saxon archers.
@RR-v3 жыл бұрын
Great vid man
@SuperSparrow455 ай бұрын
Robert was a terrible king, but he shows why he was a war hero. Not just his sheer power, but he understood the art of war. He knew not to underestimate the threat of the Dothraki and the displaced Targaryen children. He knew his kingdom was huge, but extremely divided, wrought with friction and internal struggles and knew that there was serious doubts the whole kingdom would come together united.
@HolyknightVader9995 жыл бұрын
Cersei and Robert talking about fighting the Dothraki was the best war convo we had in Season 1.
@kurtbarlow54084 жыл бұрын
God this is such an amazing, clever, patient show, I can’t wait to see the last couple of seasons bet they’ll be great!
@Willverinerage10 ай бұрын
🤣😅😂
@JustAnotherAccount8 Жыл бұрын
Robert was a man of war, he knew that world better than most, but because hes a bad king, everyone dismisses him. He knew it was best to smother an ember rather than let it grow into an inferno.
@AndreNitroX Жыл бұрын
These few scenes of dialogue are so captivating to watch, that it made history class fun.
@Anicius_3 жыл бұрын
Can you believe season 8 came from this very gem
@momochiang85663 жыл бұрын
In a way, Joffery was right at the beginning of his discussion with Cersei, at least the centralized royal army, especially against someone like Dany as it would be much more efficient and actually bring the nation closer together tactically and financially. It would also lower the risk of rebellion as all soldiers are brought in from various regions to fight for the central government and also increase life / decrease casualties as they'd be professionally trained.
@BlackDiamond27184 жыл бұрын
When they talk about warfare and politics, it is actually pretty cool. You learn this stuff from taking history classes and playing Age of Empires and Sid Meier's Civilization. The Byzantine Empire had armored horses which meant they could run through pikes and infantry and greek fire which is wildfire for these guys to burn down ships. Genghis Khan had a trained army on horseback that used terror to force opponents and subjects to submission. So many concepts of war and politics are what made our civilizations and moved our history. Amazing how they made the show.