Sonic Frontiers Has PEAK DESIGN

[@elopezdfo]

it’s so refreshing to see a sonic fan enjoying the game

[@UltimateHedgehogShadow]

i loved sonic frontiers so much i bought that shit twice because i bought it on the switch first, then on the pc for the modding scene

[@CaptainF123]

11:41 There's a mod called Island Rush which allows you to play all of the new (and maybe the old aswell) platforming challenges in the Open Zone so I guess you can get your fix that way.

[@picawood]

i just dont care about the sonic model dilema, is just some little changes that i don't notice until someone points to me, for me he just need some little desing changes

[@randomrave6635]

There was a person saying forces is ass because sonic only has like 2 frames in his jump animation.. I'm not saying forces wasn't ass but dude c'mon.. this is what we're doing now???

[@Ismatic1906]

@@picawood I don’t want him to be fully redesigned or anything but he should definitely get a new model to change things up. We shouldn’t get nearly the exact same model for nearly 16 years. I don’t see why they couldn’t just change things up so that the characters look fresh again.

[@socheata643]

Sometimes I might say this is better, but it’s more like an improvement though. But I don’t want to tweak to be fair, I’m just scared how much my opinions would affect others, but won’t be to hard on it.

[@sonicgamin104]

This is the peak schizo ranting i have subscribed for

[@TreadywayYT]

0:28 dude starting organisming

[@Zeldafan-zy1pb]

Its why people say Sonic Frontiers fans are gay.

[@reli_isgone]

I really don’t know why people hate this game..frontiers might be one of the best sonic games. also I love all the renders with this model. (Mostly the birthday one on the road map)

[@DeanBratwurst]

People who don't like frontiers just don't like cool shit.

[@TreadywayYT]

facts

[@marsdenit2845]

I'm not a fan of gay videogames.

[@leonardoalvarenga7572]

Sonic Mexico is mid.

[@FirstName_LqstName]

@DeanBratwurst Technically, you're not wrong. I really don't like shit. Idk anybody that likes shit. I can't deny that

[@quandaledingleofficial6]

sonic new vegas is dogshit compared to famous fangames

[@legoboy7107]

11:42 If you want that, try checking out the Island Rush mod.

[@Your_LocalWizard]

Literally the one thing that I really want changed with Sonic's Frontiers model is the quill length, I want them to look like they actually can kill robots

[@omarawilson2853]

Thank you. Don’t wanna see anymore cope for this downgrade of a model. They really had it all figured out in Unleashed ya know

[@Your_LocalWizard]

@@omarawilson2853 On the technical level it is an upgrade, it's just on the artistic level that it's a downgrade

[@omarawilson2853]

@@Your_LocalWizard I’d say it’s not that great gameplay wise either. I hate how clunky combat feels. And the open zone can have a lot of jank

[@Your_LocalWizard]

@@omarawilson2853 I'm not talking about the animations, I'm talking about the model specifically

[@omarawilson2853]

@@Your_LocalWizard technically the Unleashed model is still the detailed Sonic model to date, and it definitely looks the best. The current Model is one that’s been used since Lost World with slight tweaks.

[@Barraspy]

0:28 it is really nice, and I know this is one of those stupid nitpicks people hate but I don’t like how short he looks… 2:23 THEY KILLED HIM 😭 3:30 bro featured in Little House On The Prairie in a past life 😭 6:58 tank was right there 😭 8:27 wellllllllll we have ADHD, I don’t know about NORMAL people 😅 9:47 I’ll ban them for 10 seconds! 😈 14:17 cave W video as always, let’s hope KZbin doesn’t send my comment to the shadow realm

[@SendoDX]

@@Barraspy hahaha he does look a bit shorter 😭 I guess they’re just trying to squash his model a bit more every time they give him a new model How did you know 🫣 Tank can suck my nuts I didn’t want to fight him LMAO I fucking love that cave, never loved a cave more Appreciate it gang, thank god I got it this time

[@Dustin_Probably]

bro called it shadic gens lol

[@SendoDX]

@@Dustin_Probably they be kissin and sucklin what can I say

[@HobbZyV3]

Yeah if they made the whole open zone like that one part on the edge of the map

[@FirstName_LqstName]

That would require them caring and giving Izuka more than half a year to make them.

[@marcxworld5708]

​@@FirstName_LqstNameidk who u mean when u say them but sonic team seemed to care plenty

[@FirstName_LqstName]

@marcxworld5708 im sorry. I guess talking about specifically level design would warrant me specifically talking about the people behind the level design. But lemme correct myself anyways Yes. They do care. But for level design. No :D very obviously no. We know Izuka and probably a small bit of the team made the open zone sections in a rush a couple of months before release. Because play testers said "running around open fields of nothing are boring" and Sonic team, specifically the producers. Who im talking about. Was flabbergasted. They didn't think of that beforehand. So yeah. More examples ? They let you change the physics because they gave up trying to deal with people complaining about control. Making it so none of the open zone levels can be perfectly tailored to be tight and precise. They could. But obviously, clashing will occur the more extreme they go. Not that they do. Because again. This one section in question is the only one i feel like they even tried making something interesting to play. 90% of the levels in the open zone are boring as hell, and some almost play themselves. The cyber space stages... Obviously, I don't care.. ? Like idk man. Play the game. Really. Play it. Then go back to playing an actually good game. It's very noticeable

[@marcxworld5708]

@@FirstName_LqstName i have played frontiers and yea the platforming is lackluster if you play it by the book but it was pretty enjoyable when u do stuff like spindashing or chaining together collectables. Also yes they didnt care for the platforming lol u couldve just said that as ur reply and it woudlve worked

[@FirstName_LqstName]

@marcxworld5708 I mean. _It was obvious_ but okay _If someone asks you how much gum costs, do you say "50 cents" or say "the store nearest to our location, the one you're referencing sell their gum at 50 cents."_ Context came loaded with the question...? I feel like it's really hard to assume im referencing anyone other than level designers.. When talking about level design ???

[@Phantastic4]

16:20 okay okay imma hear them out rq, a "tech demo" is kinda a reasonable way of describing this game. Now I do NOT mean that in a bad way, i mean that in full respect. This game feels like sonic team wants feedback about an open zone game and see what the problems are and want to improve upon or refine those issues in the next open zone game

[@MetalWeebChaos]

I still believe the game's a rushed mess but I'll admit it's fun to just fuck around outside the story and just explore for the hell of it. If anything, I'd rather play this than TOTK. You got me there lol

[@ReverofEnola]

Honestly, I don't even think calling it rushed is accurate since it had 5 to 6 years of development. Which is the most any Sonic game has had. Underbudgeted would probably be more accurate. And the developers were probably working from home & communicating that way due to Covid too. So it was probably a bit more difficult.

[@MetalWeebChaos]

@@ReverofEnola True... it's easy to forget about stuff like that when there's a bunch of other things going on irl. Thanks for bringing that up, I haven't thought of that.

[@nauticul1999]

I like the game! Just don't love the floating platforms seemingly randomly🤷‍♂️ (breaks immersion for me) + the pop in is a Lil ridiculous for a next gen game😂

[@frostreaper2311]

You would think with the way people talk about this game that it killed their grandma or some shit. The only island I would say is a valid mixed bag is Chaos island but its Aesthetic FUCKS

[@marsdenit2845]

Super Mario Oddyssey is very simple, very easy, but its a very polished easy game. Even if Odyssey is an easy game it does a good job at its intentions. Sonic Frontiers plays like if it was underfunded and fell behind its own intentions.

[@Zeldafan-zy1pb]

Its commonly agreed than fans of Sonic Frontiers got visited frequently by P Diddy

[@SendoDX]

@@marsdenit2845 I honestly don’t think Odyssey does a good job even with its intention. It’s.. honestly insanely boring and barely feels like a platformer after you get an understanding of its controls. Even the “hard” platforming challenges don’t really test you or feel even remotely fun to run through on a second playthrough. I think the resulting experience is a total flop and only valid for a single playthrough. Frontiers is a game with a far superior gameplay loop and infinitely more replay value. I’ve sunk more time into it as a result and frankly enjoy it more.

[@marsdenit2845]

​​​@secoTheSonicFanBecause games can be not your cup of tea but will well-designed objectively. Mario Oddyssey never pretends to be hard. If its easy, its a well designed easy game. Thats why Ocarina also has a near perfect 10 metacritic. Even to someone who doesn't like it its fundamentally well put together. Sonic Frontiers is unpolished.

[@SendoDX]

Multiple things: 1) when have review scores ever been a good metric for how good a game actually is? TotK got 10s across the board and that was the biggest letdown of the century. 2) 70 isn’t a failing grade anywhere outside of the U.S. education system. 7/10 is a good score.

[@spaceaustrailia5895]

​​@@SendoDXHalf my coworkers have a son or daughter that plays TOTK. I have never met a single person outside the internet discussing Sonic Frontiers

[@mcnuggwtscreations]

Let's face it, Sonic Frontiers is better than Sonic Heroes.

[@BryanKagenou]

Naaaaa, wth is this opinion 👀

[@Potatoboii2]

haven't played either game and i agree :D

[@FirstName_LqstName]

_insert extremely loud incorrect buzzer_

[@BlueTakBlur]

bro that's a low bar lots of sonic games are better than heroes

[@mcnuggwtscreations]

@@BlueTakBlur To be honest, you're right

[@Tough_Tako]

First (I'm the number 1 Sendo glazer)

[@Chalk_Stuff]

Great job dude

[@EternityVoid_]

I just take it as gamers are miserable. I remember people turning on Spider-Man 2 because it didn't win GOTY or something along those lines.

[@SendoDX]

@@EternityVoid_ yeeeeah pretty much 😭 I’ve never seen people fight tooth and nail over options about such menial shit before

[@AquaVerve]

Sendo with the CAP

[@StardustZee]

Pov: sonic fans not allowing others to have differing opinions

[@lazymorris5293]

Naw this model just ain’t it for me. I just need that middle bottom quill to move a little bit lower and his limbs and quills to be a little bit longer.

[@ReverofEnola]

Same. It also is just missing a lot of animations from Unleashed/Colors/Gens. No homing attack animations No poses for rank Missing idle animations like when Sonic crosses his arms or when he sleeps When Sonic jumps, you don't see him curl into a ball anymore Hell, I don't even like the jumpball in this game lol. Neither liked it in Forces either.

[@pheemarts]

2:05 Blud is not Martin Luther king😭😭❌❌❌🥶🙏🙏🙏🗣️🗣️

[@SendoDX]

@@pheemarts wild comment bro 😭😭

[@FirstName_LqstName]

I feel like im starting to see why people like this game. It has small pieces about what people like in SA2. Spectacle over functionality. Story over actual gameplay. The works. The section you showcased here my brain immediately went "oh look. SA2 level design." Not completely fucking boring like literally 90% of the rest of the open zone It's extemely short. It has relatively easy execution. A branching path that's actually faster for once. And it's the only time I'm not falling asleep :D It does still have some of the issues that come with SA2's level design, though. I only really see.. 3 ways of getting through it or engaging with it that are interesting or do anything. Thats still 3x better than again, 90% of the rest of the open zone platforming. But still an objective upgrade. It really makes you wish that literally all of them would be designed with some intent or be half as engaging. It still could be better though. The background rings are good visually but serve no purpose. I wished the physics in this game weren't ass so you could run on them and use them to boost jump off in a new direction. Maybe even running around them would build enough speed to carry you the next section entirely. I wished it didn't feel the need to add dash pads. I know these are kids' games, but Jesus Christ even kids can hold forward correctly. I wish it wasn't so short you blinked, and it's over. Like yeah, SA2 is mostly automation, but even that games peaks aren't nearly as short as this. But if you only look at that section. And ignore how boring everything else is in comparison. I guess i can see why people like about this game. Or at least see the potential it has. I don't think it's a lot. I agree with the techdemo take unfortunately lol. This game is hard carried by its music in the boss fights. _especially since those boss fights are a little jank and can be scummed very easily_ And literally nothing else on the disk is remotely interesting

[@ashemabahumat4173]

No. No, it doesn't lol. But it is across the board ok-good. But yea, his running animation in this game is pretty mid. Feels like it has no personality aside from the using his hands to turn low to the ground thing

[@marsdenit2845]

I don't like Sonic Frontiers. But I also don't even remember running into this part you played. Its possible that I quit this game before this section was added

[@SendoDX]

@@marsdenit2845 run through it again and try to experience the game with a bit more depth. Could be worth it to see if you truly enjoy the experience or not.

[@ariffirdaus5376]

the env design in this game? below average the camera? it just sucks and awful the cyberspace? could have been soo much better implemented. the story? lackluster, too much wasted potentials. the minigames? cute. the spectacle? pretty nice, its been a while since we got fire cinematics. this game truly shines with the enjoyable platforming gameplay. thats literally it. its a good step towards the right direction, now they have to maintain fun gameplay and improve EVERYTHING ELSE. then it will be the best next sonic game. ever.

[@HyperSuperSonic-i1f]

Bro. You keep praising Sonic Frontiers and in every video the game is falling apart mid-sentence when you compliment it. 5 minutes is probably the longest you can go without something going wrong

[@SendoDX]

@@HyperSuperSonic-i1f …falling apart how?? What went wrong throughout this entire video?

[@Hyp3rSonic]

@@HyperSuperSonic-i1f 🙄

[@Zeldafan-zy1pb]

No matter what games/movies come out people will argue. A game's quality is its ability to appeal to a large number of people. The better a product is, the higher the like to dislike ratio is. Sonic Frontiers' like to dislike ratio isn't high enough to consider the game good.

[@SendoDX]

@@Zeldafan-zy1pb Lots of issues with that ideology. Corporate meat-riding and doomer mentality are both things that can be prevalent in communities (for example… Nintendo meat-riding and constant doomer posts with Sonic content). Also, the “like to dislike ratio” is practically impossible/worthless to derive. So many confounding variables there. How many people bought the game? If only one person bought an RPG and they didn’t like RPGs… so they hated it… is the game bad with a 100% dislike ratio? Obviously an extreme example but good games can be hidden gems or hated at the time and then loved later. I just don’t think you can be that definitive with it… too many loopholes and flaws with that.

[@Zeldafan-zy1pb]

​@@SendoDXYou are comparing Sega to Nintendo. Sega was never good at making games. Its why all their consoles lost to Nintendo

[@SendoDX]

@@Zeldafan-zy1pb wildly terrible take. Enjoy your day.

[@asdfxcvbn746]

i like polished & finished games. so I guess what i'm trying to say is that I don't like Sonic Frontiers. grind rails littered in mid-air looks like un-coiled paperclips floating in the sky. the terrain barely has textures on it. just grass & gray rock as far as the eye can see & some convenient fog to coverup some of the worst pop-in in gaming history. what is this Nintendo 64 era? lol smh. it looks so tacky & unfinished. Sonic fans liking Sonic Frontiers confirms younger Sonic fans have low standards smh

[@Real-i4k]

There’s no way this isnt satire

[@ariffirdaus5376]

​​@@Real-i4k.......no. the env design in this game? below average the camera? it just sucks and awful the cyberspace? could have been soo much better implemented. the story? lackluster, too much wasted potentials. the minigames? cute. this game shines with the enjoyable platforming gameplay. thats literally it. its a good step towards the right direction, now they have to maintain fun gameplay and improve EVERYTHING ELSE. then it will be the best next sonic game. ever.

[@asdfxcvbn746]

@@Real-i4k go play some nintendo games, go play astro bot... then play sonic frontiers. if you think that game is polished or finished, you need to play more games & raise your standards. sonic fans have been playing mid games for so long that they think mid is normal smh

[@asdfxcvbn746]

@@ariffirdaus5376 great ideas, but frontiers needed about 3 more years in the oven. i wish insomniac or team asobi would work on a sonic game. hell, i'll even take a lakefeperd developed sonic game from the spark the jester 3 devs. anything would be better than sonic team. they're getting better, but at this rate, by the time they make a GOTY contender, i'll be 100 years old smh

[@ariffirdaus5376]

@@asdfxcvbn746 tbh idk much about sonic team, but i feel like theres weird inconsistencies lmao, sometimes it feels like they have too much developers, some other times they feel like they have too much designers

[@Phantastic4]

8:20 nah bruh, even when I've 100%'d this game twice I STILL suck ASS at the puzzles

[@dragnjames2190]

17:00 Mario Odyssey is the best Banjo Kazooie game I've ever played. Wanna talk about tech demos? Look at BotW & Totk! ( On a side note: I really dislike the way the Zelda series has been heading into more "comfort food game" territory with Breath, Tears & now, Echoes of Wisdom. )

[@TreadywayYT]

2:17 nah sonic aint right for that

[@SendoDX]

Bro had it coming 🌝

[@TreadywayYT]

@@SendoDX 😭 dude got shot up