Geely's Galaxy E5 gets Aegis LFP battery with highest energy density EVER

Geely's Galaxy E5 gets Aegis LFP battery with highest energy density EVER
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[@LoveEVandenvironment]

1st: No politics here. 2nd: I personally really like Chinese EVs like BYD, Zeeker, Geely, Nio, etc. Their EV technology are so amazing,Tesla actually also uses the Chinese CATL battery. BYD’s blade battery is so safe. I guess that's why the US has banned Chinese EVs because they are so competitive！

[@donblythe3766]

The reason the US has banned Chinese EVs is that they are being built with the mind of taking over the United States car market which employs millions of people that are involved in the production of automobiles and let's not forget that China is trying to blockade Taiwan, an independent country, China has been harassing the Philippine Islands, China has overtaken the country of Tibet, China is worrying the Indians on their northern border with China.The Chinese have a huge Navy that they're using to bully ships in the South China Sea which they have now claimed to be their territory and nobody can go there without their permission ,even after centuries of it being considered open world waters So there are plenty of reasons to not buy Chinese cars because You are supporting a dictatorial regime that wants to take over the entire world. Buying any Chinese cars means you are giving up your Nations and your individual freedom to the Chinese Communist Party. i would say that is a very bad deal

[@shawnnoyes4620]

They have done an excellent job stealing intellectual property and extorting western corporations of their technology. Yes, they are so competitive because their costs are lower from theft and being under handed.

[@christianolsen9781]

A) because they are very competitive and b) because China subsidices Chinese EVs

[@patrickshanghai2064]

love the videos of Geely testing the Zeekr battery pack. quite impressive the beating they give it and the battery pack never budges!

[@electricviking]

Glad you like them!

[@alanbgtan]

Wow I live in Australia & I hve not seen so many varieties of EV cars in one go with amazing tech

[@Hookeslaw]

I keep hearing about hybrids being a better option than BEVs for now. This an infrastructure issue and it won't get sorted if everyone is still investing in fossil fuels. Stop blaming the tech and put some pressure on the people who are doing a bad job of keeping up with the times. I have owned all types, HEV, Ice, Phev and EV. EV by far the best but infrastructure needs improvement.

[@scottmcshannon6821]

no, its not an infrastructure issue, its just an out and out lie. legacy auto loves hybrids since they require more maintenance than ICE.

[@Muppetkeeper]

Don't worry, most hybrids self combust, they won't be around long.

[@secretweapon9775]

New battery would go as much as 600 miles more with less than 10 min charging time will come, a game changer

[@AleksandrVasilenko93]

Insane. Just imagine how good EVs will be in five years.

[@binarybob9644]

That’s what people were saying 5 years ago and EV range and charging times have hardly changed in that period.

[@timfehlberg9051]

The E5 is being co developed with Proton, so we can expect the new Proton to be similar.

[@knuth.nyhagen82]

Great news!

[@JettoGospel]

Amazing how battery tech is improving exponentially as compared to ice tech

[@rogerfroud300]

It will be interesting to see what the build quality and life of these are.

[@binarybob9644]

Probably just like the Chinese ICE cars that have preceded the coming of their EVs. They’re designed to outlast the warranty and then they go into throwaway mode. So you’ll get 5 years of acceptable reliability then you crush them.

[@dougsheldon5560]

Seeing some of the they've put out so far. I'll wait for the reviews. Yep, your words "crazy".

[@daviddunmore8415]

I'd like to see those batteries (both sizes) in a very efficient Golf size car for super long range

[@Muppetkeeper]

Yes, smaller batteries in smaller cars for the win.

[@toolsforfools]

Viking, you better not panic on all what is going on and on all of it that will fail in most cases.

[@marcc.490]

Looking forward to next year to Geely arrival in Australia

[@donblythe3766]

Are you also looking forward to the Chinese taking over the Australian continent and substituting you to the Communist Party's rule?

[@undisclosedthai]

Thumbnail said it is making legacy auto panic. I don't think so. They don't panic and don't seem to. People bought legacy auto cars because they want them, and don't want new brands' cars. People bought fuel cars because they want them, and don't want EVs. Who to panic is the main Geely rivals such as BYD, etc. Because of this Geely's innovations, BYD and some Chinese EV makers have high risk to be the next Kodak and/or the next Nokia.

[@tleo3333]

Chinese brands will take over the rest of the world, then legacy auto will go bust when protective tariffs don’t protect them.

[@cwdjdsd-36321cs]

Lmao BYD sold more than 340k units in may. The geely group sold like 50k units of EVs. Plus BYDs vertical integration is impossible to imitate and they are making profits from EVs. byd is gonna release EVs with 1000km range with platform 4.0 this year and also they are working on solid state batteries.

[@luisjuanico7001]

....and limiting speed to 140 km/h...so the tyre could be designed having a lower friction coefficient

[@jtk4189]

I can understand comparing batteries by looking at the “specs”; however, not so much with motors. I would love to see a real engineering comparison (hint hint Monroe-level expertise). Perhaps the specs are stretched a bit ;-) But I do like pushing state-of-the-art improvements!

[@Lypiatt]

Thanks

[@electricviking]

Welcome

[@mbarber4089]

Interested to hear if you have any further information on the M3P battery and if Tesla will be using it.

[@koenmeloenable]

If I would charge this car over the weekend at my home with the electricity we deliver back to the grid, it would cost me 6.24 dollar to completely charge the battery and drive 400 km with it. If I put diesel in my Nav to drive the same 400 km it costs me 72 dollars. This Geely car is over 10x more cost effective than my current car.

[@renethumann4871]

The best news is that they are in partnership with nio battery swap!!!

[@vasthefox]

Looks promising

[@ivannavi8154]

It’s way too early to say but looking at the latest new car sales in Australia for April and May, there seems to be a trend that people opting out of ICE cars are choosing hybrids rather than battery only cars. Makes sense, huge country, long distances, remote areas. No problem for a hybrid but a bit of a challenge for a battery powered car. Japan seems to be favouring hybrids.

[@robertimrie3710]

You sound like one of those Lexus bots on other EV channels. AU drivers do similar distances to UK drivers. EVs are more than capable of long highway hauls. Australians are just lazy and tick the Toyota box, which now equals hybrid. If Toyota had a moral compass they would have gone EV and Australians would have followed them.

[@TB-up4xi]

Battery only cars are still up over 10% for the month and almost 30% YTD vs last year, hybrid growth is a result of Toyota finally filling the 2 year plus backlogs on their hybrid cars

[@ivannavi8154]

@@TB-up4xi The hybrids sold in the April/May period in the FCC report were mainly Chinese, not Toyota clearing their stock. So it's more of a trend than just stock clearing. I know that I'm seeing more hybrids in our town of 150,000 population. It's funny how Tesla's are starting to look dated and bland now, had the same body style for years.

[@unfixablegop]

US 100% tariffs on Chinese EVs is really catastrophic for international trade law. It's not comparable to starting a real war of course, but it shows the same might makes right attitude as Russia's invasion of Ukraine.

[@dominicrekittke3352]

Waiting for a cheap car with heater, wipers, large bootspace and RANGE. Reliable. That would be all.

[@dr.x4050]

Why not sell the Geely Galaxy as a Volvo brand in the USA?

[@undisclosedthai]

1. People don't want Chinese products. 2. It ruins Volvo brand images.

[@JogBird]

thats not how volvo works.. they are still volvo, but with rich chinese parents

[@zes7215]

@@undisclosedthai nah, just don't want you

[@hardi.howdy.983]

*New EV making Legacy Auto Panic...* Your thumbnail clickbaits are getting imaginative 😁

[@aaronsinspirationdaily4896]

Probably uses AI to generate them. That’s what I’d do.

[@yggdrasil9039]

Tesla needs to step up with the Model Y. They need to be topping 500km range with the base model RWD minimum. And they need to bring out an affordable RWD LR.

[@Harrythehun]

You are just throwing up a number. Has nothing to do with reality. The value is in the total package, software, hardware, app, servicing

[@yggdrasil9039]

@@Harrythehun 500km range is not an unreasonable number for a model that currently gets 470km. If Aegis is getting 530km WLTP w/ the same size 60kWh LFP, then MY RWD needs to at least be at parity. As for the total package, you take it or leave it.

[@TB-up4xi]

@@yggdrasil9039 These are CLTC numbers - the Base model Y with 60kwh battery (same as the E5) already has a CLTC range of 554km - Viking is off smoking something again.

[@yggdrasil9039]

@@TB-up4xi 490km I think it is, for the current RWD MY

[@chrispenn715]

Looks promising but if it comes to the UK, expect a base price of more like £40k or 50k US dollars

[@Sacto1654]

But is the battery _safe_ , though. The problem is that when a battery catches on fire, it's nearly impossible to put out.

[@abingo2]

I believe they are solid-state batteries, they don't catch fire.

[@davidstrong7854]

Great numbers for a non released car. I’ll believe it when I see it . Lastly the no way I believe the drag numbers on suv shape

[@luisjuanico7001]

JUST PUT SMALLER WHEELS and the efficiency increases up! This is OBVIOUS

[@mantobrew]

Again when talking engery density the KWh of the battery is surely not relevent A 49KwH battery will have the same range with any energy density. The only difference is a small change in the weight of the battery

[@WorsnopW]

Likes just like the: Smart #1 / Merc EQA / Volvo EX30 which Geely already make 🫢

[@binarybob9644]

Crikey Sam. Just last week you showcased a battery that had the highest energy density “ever”. Is this the same one or something else. There seems to be a new game changer every second day. They can’t all be game changers, what is the game anyway?

[@PaleBlueDotCitizen]

He's trying to get attention for his channel. He always begs for comments saying he'd like to hear your opinion but he has NEVER READ OR REPLIED TO A SINGLE COMMENT. EVER.

[@haklin5650]

some of us need to hear it often, it gives us hope

[@jlcTTT]

If you had listened to the video you would know that Sam doesn't yet know what the battery is, but suspects it is indeed Geely's golden battery, which is the same as the one he talked about last week.

[@stefan2796]

"Hello my friends, I'm Sam Evans and welcome to my daily game changer channel"... Yet, i keep watching his videos.

[@binarybob9644]

@@PaleBlueDotCitizen Dead right. He's a salesman for Tesla and BYD.

[@squishedfrog99-gp4qq]

This guy should live in China, not Australia. I can understand with all the Ausi sun there may be an economic model for some EVs but they are not a panacea for the future, especially where hours of remote driving may be needed. Land cruiser or BYD. I know what I would use.

[@3dvox712]

Yea they will do this at 20.000euro while lowest option Chinese ex30 is 39.000 euro? Stop giving us prices in China. When you are in EU market and you go to Volvo dealer here its 39.000 euro and it is the same for MG BYD etc. Its not like those are 50% cheaper then legacy or Tesla. They are the same price or 10% cheaper.

[@yggdrasil9039]

The thing is, hybrids HEVs not PHEVs, are up 113% this month YoY and took 1/4 of the entire market in Australia. It's hard to argue against a $32k Toyota Corolla hybrid with 1,000km range at $65 a tank. Competition is good, but hybrids will give BEVs a run for their money out to the end of this decade. The good news is 1/3 vehicles sold in Australia this month had some form of electrification.

[@chaozi6688]

BYD hybrid car can run 2,300 kilometers on a tank of gas and is priced at only $1,500 in China. Toyota hybrid cannot compete with it.

[@yggdrasil9039]

@@chaozi6688 Which model is that?

[@toriwatson9655]

I can see why people are attracted to Hybrids, but for me the beauty of a BEV is the lack of moving parts and very low maintenance, and these incredibly long life LFP batteries. We are already seeing incredible mileage with minimal maintenance from Teslas, and million km taxi's in China with again very little maintenance. I don't need massive range, and the charging network is increasing. For me I don't want to still having the oil/ belt/ filter/ spark plug changes to keep the complex combustion engine happy.

[@jlcTTT]

Hybrid = max of 75 mpg, typical EV = 150 mpg. Conclusion = ICE is doomed. Sorry.

[@yggdrasil9039]

@@toriwatson9655 Granted, and ultimately EVs will completely replace ICE and hybrids. But price and EV charging infrastructure are still roadblocks. And I can tell you from 8 years of hybrid ownership I've never had to change a spark plug, timing belt or anything other than vacuum the filter and change the oil myself every 10,000km which takes about 30 minutes. I've had 2 traction battery reconditions in that time, total cost $1,900, which has saved me about $16,000 in petrol over 8 years ($2k / year cheaper to run than my previous petrol car driving the same distance.) I'm just pointing out why hybrids are booming in Australia right now, while EVs are growing, but at a much slower pace. Hybrids are cheaper, they are a mature technology vs EVs are more expensive, and they are an early adopter technology, which means the tech gets superceded more quickly.

[@Guvament_bs]

Manufacturers never lie about the range of their EVs.

[@Harrythehun]

Then every car video deserves your comment!

[@Guvament_bs]

​@@Harrythehunnot entirely clear what that means. But all replies are welcome.

[@sd70cal]

or emissions!

[@chrishaberbosch1029]

Or the safety of their ICE cars. Or emissions.

[@totifernandez9532]

Japanese car safety data.

[@markrowland1366]

Nice.

[@Tuano-vq1jw]

So what is the number of energy density on Geely E5?

[@evgriga]

The CLTC range of ORA 03 with 49kWh LFP battery (old tech and weight ~390kg, not the best battery) is 400km, so 450km for Geely (bigger, heavier car) is very good, if it is true, but only 10% more than the average, NOT INSANE. And, again, CLTC is not even close to real world, discount ~1/3 of a range to get real world estimate.

[@dathyr1]

Yes, we in the US will never see China vehicles, along with other technology items from their country. Don't bother me in the least bit right now since I already have a 2023 Tesla. If we did get China vehicles, they probably would be a much higher price tag because of the very high import taxes on them.

[@tryonco]

Very nice looking, small SUV format… very well detailed, and seemingly great technology. I’m impressed! Our loss if it doesn’t / can’t come to the USA.

[@johngonon1507]

It would be strange if Geely used another battery pack than the "golden brick" battery from Zeekr ... or the other way round. Competing on the batteries within the same automobile group seems stupid to me.

[@opinionmatters7119]

Hopefully it has the reliability of Tesla.

[@TB-up4xi]

3:45 Huh? what are you on about? The base model Y in China has a 60kwh battery pack and a CLTC range of 554km v the Galaxy E5 of 530km with the same size battery pack, and the Model Y is larger.

[@mawhim]

Not a game changer, just more EV options in an increasing pool. Where is the CATL shenxing battery?

[@alfredkcwong5008]

Keep it up pro.😂😂❤❤

[@lkrnpk]

Wouldn’t highest density battery be like 100 kwh but at a size of 60 kwh or sth? What Sam is talking about sounds like it is very efficient, it is about efficiency

[@rohankilby4499]

Here we are at only Gen 3 EV 90% efficiency already ICE go home 🤘🏿

[@oldbloke204]

Yeah ICE cars can go home without spending hours charging on the way if they're going any distance for sure.

[@ZalshahZalshah]

@@oldbloke204 what an idiot... i can charging my EV at home sleep...

[@rohankilby4499]

Old guy full of FUD

[@crm114.]

@@oldbloke204I think you’ll find with the latest batteries, charging time time is down to minutes. Even with my aging EV, I can add 200 miles of range in 30min.

[@frankcoffey]

This is absolutely expected. We have all been saying for years that EVs will eventually be cheaper than ICE cars, we shouldn't act surprised when it happens.

[@ladygracienyc2029]

Is the battery pack internally developed by Geely? Aegis is just the name of the battery, right?

[@zdme4864]

there will always be something better next

[@elliotkane4443]

Honestly I find everything about this car's aesthetics sickening. But what is this video "I read the advertising for this Chinese car and it must be great"... "It has the highest energy density EVER" - But even Geely don't claim that.... WOW! It has a 'structural battery! Which means when the battery is depleted, the car must be scrapped, another throwaway vehicle to save the planet. WOW! This Chinese company claims its govt subsidized car will be sold for $20,000 USD in China! Read between the lines, that doesn't mean it will retail for anywhere close to that price anywhere else, after transport, import/port fees, distribution and marketing costs + a healthy profit margin you won't see that for less than $47,000 in AU, probably more. The propaganda on this channel is incredible.

[@icosthop9998]

Better than *"BYD"* ? ❔️

[@icosthop9998]

. *"Tesla is a **_~moving_** target"* 🎯 . ---+- Herbert Diess -+-- When it comes to *"EVs"* , No car company will ever catch Tesla ❕️

[@undisclosedthai]

I think so. Because of this new Geely's innovations, Blade Battery will be the next Kodak and/or the next Nokia soon.

[@williamwoo866]

Geely won't ever be first without Tesla FSD. If Geely license the car with Tesla FSD then yes it can be the best car ever.

[@DennisMathias]

Charging standard?

[@Blind_of_Colour]

You site batteries with small KWH ratings and associate big CLTC ranges with the batteries and say wow what batteries. But the car.does NOT look outstandingly aerodynamic. A battery with a high energy density means you can achieve less weight for the same KWH capacity. And that would help range. But CLTC could be only 74% of EPA range or less from what I've read. So what does this car you are talking about weigh?

[@vincentsmith9562]

I want one. Please

[@MrGMawson2438]

Geely are good

[@richh650]

America better not allow the E5 as it would put any other SUV away quickly.

[@paulcolu]

Is it RWD?

[@aiart3453]

Mate thnx for the video, ur channel maybe my fav channel. Since you are focused on details, instead of politics, which is amazing.

[@hardi.howdy.983]

He is focused on details of what??

[@aiart3453]

@@hardi.howdy.983 cars, batteries, riders, everything cars

[@dianewallace6064]

The USA is like Cuba used to be regarding car tech.

[@jamesvandamme7786]

That's our government. Biden wants UAW votes, Trump wants no EVs. We are doomed.

[@gerbre1]

I only believe 11,9 kWh when I see it. My classic Ioniq says no.

[@deanstyles2567]

Samsung might have something to say about Geely using the Galaxy brand.

[@100c0c]

Probably not trademark for cars in China.

[@timothykeith1367]

Ford Galaxy 500!

[@metricstormtrooper]

Ford should as well, if you're old enough you'll remember the Galaxies, it was one level up from the Fairlane.

[@handyandymeister]

American car companies are toast.

[@tavoauto]

11.9kw/100km consumption we should not brag about it, but talk about real world consumption instead

[@Stewarts_in_love]

Him: it’s 20k and cheap Me:😍 Also Him: not in America though Me:🤦‍♂️😭

[@elliotkane4443]

Its not for sale anywhere, the $20k USD is just a speculative subsidized price for China, you don't live in China so it would be a lot more, its totally misleading as usual.

[@kurniawanwidisusanto3619]

The winner from competition is the consumers Keep em coming!!

[@hiram1923]

You mean competition like the Chinese communist government directly paying thousands of dollars per Chinese car sold in the West to the manufacturers?

[@stefan2796]

What about the environment? It is losing all the time...

[@zes7215]

no such thing as better or not or panic, do things not panic about things, otherx

[@raypalmer7733]

Not likely available in the US, well blame that on Biden as his admin has slapped 100% tariffs on Chinese cars.

[@zenfishbike]

Totally agree that's a BS political move, but don't think for a sec that Trump wouldn't do the same. He started it with a 28% tarrif and is all about "America First"

[@timothykeith1367]

BYD claims a new hybrid that has a nominal range of 1,200 miles. It's reported to have gone as far as 1,429 miles on one tank of gasoline. This is why Toyota thinks hybrids have more in the tank. The future Toyota hybrid engines won't be available until at least 2027. Toyota claims it's hydrogen research taught them new tricks about combustion that they hope to exploit for future hybrids. The engine design is radically different from past practice and may involve a very short piston stroke

[@jontibloom6125]

And it can also do the washing up, can act as a dialysis machine and has a flight function in the X model

[@MrGMawson2438]

Morning mate

[@belowme4927]

AAA Survey: FEWER people want an EV in 2024! | MGUY Australia

[@TimMountjoy-zy2fd]

Who cares cos EV's still win the war. Why - they just get better and better and we have only just started.

[@jamesvandamme7786]

MGUY is the quintessential petro-shill.

[@stumckhall]

If it’s so awesome in tech why did they totally fuck up the design? Super boring, ugly, standard, ZERO design sense 👎

[@petersimms4982]

Sounds like the new PEOPLEs car 😅

[@Boboche]

Is this a deathbox on wheel like some other low cost cars?

[@Karl-Benny]

What other low cost cars have caused Death`s

[@timothykeith1367]

Like motorcycles?

[@walking_in_the_shade]

'deathbox on wheel' a unicycle??

[@robertimrie3710]

Bollocks. Everything else they do is 5 stars.

[@stevencole7331]

Well it looks like majority ev adoption will occure decades fron now in america without the help of chinas budget evs . Australia could be faster but they have one problem as most of the country is rural and hot . Not good for ev adoption . Places like thailand being smaller and urban should accelerate to adoption . Batterry and efficiency advancement plays a part but that also requires the look of evs to change substantially to become more aero and get away from evs looking like ice cars . Amazing how weel they do with a box design

[@joeblue2492]

Like the Aptera ev car ?!

[@stevencole7331]

@@joeblue2492 when the Japanese automakers began creating a more aero design in the 1980s with compact cars it took a bit of time for acceptance . What people appreciated is their better gas milage in a time that we had some fuel interruptions to motivate people to buy not paying as much to the aesthetic look of the vehicle . Over time that look became popular . Now streamline futuristic look goes back to the 1940s so it's not something new . It's really amazing to me we build box autos . As resources dwindle we have to be more efficient and that the incentive for improvement.

[@ArielBatista]

Sorry but the battery is only 49 kwh, and 60 kwh size. That's all it's going to give you. Small batteries for the car. You get excited about things ahead of real world testing. It's not that great of a car. Prices are for Chinese market, not export.

[@sheilah4525]

Legacy auto makers are laughing. Does this You Tube poster ever speak facts? Answer: NO.

[@iamatransporter]

It would sell like hotcakes here in the US.

[@davidmaxwaterman]

Really? The impression from the outside, I think, is that Americans are quite "reluctant" to purchase Chinese brands. They don't mind so much if it has a 'made in China' label, but the brand itself is a different thing altogether.

[@stefan2796]

Made in china doesn't sell. People in the US don't want to be part of the CCP mass surveillance program.

[@iamatransporter]

@@davidmaxwaterman We'll never know exactly until the day they sell here. I think this car would sell quite well IMO.

[@johannel8104]

Don't believe everything you read, Sam.

[@ilollipop100]

No wants EVs. They suck.

[@anthonyriley-lu6kb]

Troll

[@sterobloc6645]

"Higher energy density " . . . Does that mean if thermal runaway occurs you get a much bigger Bang!

[@dandare1001]

There were no actual "higher energy density" figures given, so I wouldn't worry about it.

[@gbreslin6635]

Lec., Are you repeating 'claims' in all your videos. How do you become confident of information? There's a lot insanity these days.

[@sheilah4525]

Ever read such ongoing nonsense. This is the guy who would tell you “Go back to your rooms! Nothing to worry about. The Titanic is unsinkable! Well…you go believe who you want when you go drop 40-70,000 on your wonderful, new virtue signaler! It isn’t my money your’e flushing down the toilet. Or his.

[@Karl-Benny]

Does not matter how safe it is scratch It and the Insurance company will write it off

[@timothykeith1367]

Unfortunately that is true. Suitcase size batteries, please!

[@Gobhumi]

The question is... how long will the US 100% China EV tariff remain. 2025

[@hiram1923]

As long as the Chinese communist government is paying the Chinese manufacturers thousands of dollars per Chinese car dumped into the US. One of the very few good moves of Biden, EU is of course as always too cowardish...

[@williamwoo866]

The Geely is ugly. it doesn't look like the future. Need a better body designer to be kick ass. If car don't look good I don't buy. I am a little thin skin.

[@MrGMawson2438]

20 grand wow

[@jesbsnrn]

Thanks tesla for open sourcing your tech early on so these others csn follow. Thanks china for cheap labor so eveeyone can afford EV. And maybe saudia and russian economies cant dictate the amount of distance i drice with my accord

[@MrGMawson2438]

Cheers Sam

[@paulb1951]

Seen reviews, poor cheap quality interior build, not great driving experience. Battery is impressive but there are many areas they saved money. Shame Sam isn’t a reviewer, just quotes stats and promotes certain Chinese brands and Tesla.

[@yulusleonard985]

its not even on sale ow on earth it get review? Oh I get it! You watch Falun Gong indoctrination video.

[@gerardhaus8150]

This guy ain’t saying the car is good or bad, merely pointing out features. This is not a car review show

[@yulusleonard985]

Keep in mind China Observer is a propaganda channel of a d3ath cu1t. The car is not even out,

[@oberstraphry]

Sounds like that first Honda Civic my sister got in the 1970’s. Got a foothold in the US with that. Young drivers want affordable cars and can handle poor driving, unlike us old folks.

[@andywu5879]

1st. I was wondering which reviews you had seen, totally different from my personal experience I just test drove in shenzhen. 2nd. Are you comparing to model S? Pls tell us your expectations on a $20k USD EV. I can tell it’s way better than the model 3

[@chaoskid1211]

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@skepticalmechanic]

POS car… great battery

[@grantbuttenshaw]

Game changing? You mean very slow incremental progress

[@dandare1001]

The lack of figures suggests that it might not even be incremental.

[@rodmitchell831]

Awesome news Sam

[@electricviking]

Thanks Mate!

[@starlord8973]

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