The Definitive Guide to the to the Separatists Most EVIL Leader

[@omega_chad_dude6735]

Shu-Mai be like : "You freed us!" "I wouldn't say freed, more like under new management "

[@geetslys]

New management 😂😂😂

[@indianajones4321]

Megamind

[@matthewkalasky2891]

It 's like Bender in that Futurama episode where they where enslaved on the Egyptian-like planet, and he took over.

[@СозданиеБезымянное]

We all saw it coming.

[@twistedyogert]

Under my boots.

[@ig70000]

Gotta say Anakin certainly has a sense of humor “ I am your reward, don’t you find me handsome” 😂😂😂

[@hendrik7354]

He never was a Jedi Master, but he always was a master of trolling. Obi-Wan has taught him well

[@TheDONing1]

@@a-moneyrr790 Bruh you good?

[@a-moneyrr790]

@@TheDONing1 lmao I had no idea i did that.

[@TexasKosmonawt]

@@a-moneyrr790 Did I miss something?

[@edwarddreier2958]

Best line that never made it into the movie…i know it was off brand for the scene for vader to talk, but he lines from the book during the seps death was gold

[@AngelDust6969]

Can we just talk about the irony in Shu-Mai's death? She was remorseless yet she tried to beg for her life when it was far too late. I honestly just imagine Anakin/Vader saying that while giving a troll face, because he does a bit of trolling. XD

[@geetslys]

"Ironic" - Sheev

[@grayski3324]

A suitable amount of trolling.

[@niallsmctelevision9763]

Haha yeah!

[@patrickiamonfire965]

@@geetslys hey you should check the title.

[@chaoticdragons9990]

Anakin has not only from his jedi master but also the master of trolling which is the same person, obi wan kenobi.

[@randycheow4268]

“You don’t find me handsome?” That’s kinda savage TBH

[@macwade2755]

I actually do remember Shu-Mai! She was a major character in the novel The Approaching Storm, which takes place between Phantom Menace and Attack of the Clones!

[@brianrunyon266]

Same.

[@therealruski3906]

Hahah ayyye was wondering if anyone else in the comments would’ve read the approaching storm given the subject of the video ❤️✌️

[@kub5615]

I remember her from Star wars Kinect

[@zexalbrony4799]

Shu-Mai: I"ve just bought the planet back. Gossam People: YAY! Shu-Mai: You'll now need to work triple the hours to meet your new quotas and earn enough to pay the massive rent I'll be imposing. Gossam People: Oh, come on! Shu-Mai: Would you rather I poison the water supply and burn this planet to the ground? Gossam People: The new workload is fine, ma'am. Shu-Mai: I thought you'd see things my way.

[@bigheadj.r.628]

That just makes Vader reason to butchered the separatist council a bit more justified.

[@g.williams2047]

He did a Jedi move killing them all.

[@niallsmctelevision9763]

totally

[@tonyjackson4078]

The main commerce guild were similar to many other Separatist members. San Hill, Nute Gunray, and Wat Tambor from their "conglomerates" were no better, all desired profit and power over their planets well being.

[@justbread4570]

wait it wasn’t justified from the start? they were all war criminals and monsters

[@justbread4570]

only unjustified deaths were the workers and aides who died there

[@jonathansayah9506]

2:50- 3:24 Gossam people: Shu Mai has freed our planet from the Commerce Guild. Shu Mai: Oh, I wouldn't say "free." More like "under new management."

[@geetslys]

Shu-Mai really gave them false hope

[@jonathansayah9506]

Yeah, but I was mostly making a joke based on a scene from "Megamind."

[@indianajones4321]

The difference between a villain and a super villain…PRESENTATION!

[@asaschuemann9545]

Killing the Sep council, and Shu Mai in particular was one think Darth Vader did RIGHT.

[@Falloutgamer347]

Yeah i never got why slaughtering them was considered evil, they willingly started a galaxy wide war for monetary gain for crying out loud

[@centurionsword2438]

@@Falloutgamer347 I think it was Vader taking a disturbing amount of pleasure rather than actually murdering the council (ish).

[@soulmass8904]

It was the only thing to do to centralize power, when the Galactic empire was created. They were expendable at the point.

[@OtisCluck]

@@soulmass8904 exactly, it’s not the fact that he did it, it’s that he *enjoyed* it

[@Falloutgamer347]

@@centurionsword2438 well thats true, i didnt remember that part

[@davidpahlman8166]

The fact that you describe General Grevious as a genocidal maniac, and then say he can’t hold a candle to Shu-Mai, tells you just how dark this video will be. That being said, the ROTS Novelisation says in the intro that Grevious was, indeed, the worst of the Separatist Leaders. “Grevious, though…Grevious was a monster”

[@miguelfrancescohogar7501]

Guessing this a situation of whick evil did more harm. Grievous preferred killing himself, this one is willing to just wipe out a planet out if spite

[@jonathancampbell5231]

The novelisation didn't say he was the worst, just that he was overtly evil while Dooku was better at coming off as civilised. It was from a Republic POV if I remember correctly and it was commenting on the propaganda effect of an attack by Grevious on the population of Coruscant

[@matthewkalasky2891]

I heard of a part of the Clone Wars (event) where he tried using some brutal enslavement technique involving forced cybernetics. On CHILDREN. Vader at his WORST would only KILL them, while being DISCUSTED with even the most TAME forms of slavery.

[@jonathancampbell5231]

@@matthewkalasky2891 Vader might have been disgusted with slavery but he still enforced it on the galaxy under the Empire, and he attempted to enslave or actually enslaved countless children as well.

[@matthewkalasky2891]

@@jonathancampbell5231 Perhaps, but Grievous held no such remorse.

[@snowcodyrifel7356]

Even near death she was ungrateful. A visit from Lord Vader to see all those present personally is much handsome reward. And a great honor

[@Barrobroadcastmaster]

I'd like to hear more about the other Separatist Council Leaders. Nute Gunray got a lot of the spotlight in Phantom Menace, and he was one of the Separatist bigwigs but what did he expect to happen? What was his goal for the Clone Wars? And San Hill, the banker that seemed so eager and high and mighty when the treaty was being signed. All these people had different goals, even Dooku, had a different vision for the galaxy when the war was finally over. The only one who saw their goals realized... was Palpatine.

[@dtxspeaks268]

Nute Gunray and San Hill may be financially and bool smart, but they clearly arent forward thinkers nor do they have any street smarts

[@r.alexandercorbitt1554]

I strongly second this.

[@teleportedbreadfor3days]

I remember Shu-Mai being the main antagonist and twist villain in that weird Star Wars: Kinect game. Her being there made me question the decision when I first played it. Now I wonder why Shu-Mai hasn't been used more frequently. She was the literal embodiment of pique corporate evil on a galactic scale.

[@joshuaklink8306]

"You don't find me handsome." Proof that there was always some Anakin in Vader.

[@ahsokaventress1167]

Nute Gunray: I am bad. Shu Mai: Hold my Economic Beer.

[@lerneanlion]

Everyone: Anakin slaughtered the unarmed Separatist Council is horrible! Me: Well, many of them deserved it, especially the one known as Shu Mai.

[@matthewkalasky2891]

And Gunray, who, amungst other things, is the sort to try and sell anyone and everyone else out to save himself, and Poggle, who did that whole "Geanosian brain worm" thing.

[@chadpeterson5698]

And the worst of the bunch, Wat Tambor

[@kiazkhazz7740]

Who? who says this?

[@henryburke2158]

the members separatist council probably deserved to die more than anyone else in the galaxy

[@condedooku9750]

@@henryburke2158 Palpatine: Hello there!

[@matthewkalasky2891]

10:30 I'm sure Anakin was well aware of all those things, and used whatever disgust he had about them to enhance his sadistic views as Vader when killing her and the others, hence his yellow eyes.

[@TheShadowwarrior80]

During his early days as Darth Vader, he was usually hesitant on enslaving people.

[@Ganonsmork]

I've always wanted to know more about these dudes.

[@Regulatory_Vagrancy]

Same. I've never been able to forget that scene in Ep.2 when Shu-Mai said that one line of diologue.

[@geetslys]

Yeah, they have always been a bit mysterious...

[@boooster101]

@@Regulatory_Vagrancy the only one I care about is the Techno Union.

[@hunterkiller1440]

I would love you to do more Separatist leader background videos.

[@judalove6707]

Do them all if you can please, thank you

[@starwarsuncovered6968]

I 2nd this it would be amazing!

[@05goode]

Co signed

[@UnexpectedWonder]

Indeed.

[@jeluenhayo2410]

Geetsly's when talking about how Anakin enjoyed killing Shu-Mai: "Bad Anakin, happy killing is wrong!" Geetsly's when talking about how bad Shu-Mai was: "You go, Anakin, get her!"

[@ghostnappa2012]

Shu Mai: we were promised a handsome reward! Lord Vader: Am I not good enough for you?

[@andrecouture6126]

The screenshot that takes over at 10:13 reminds me of the Disney canon fact that Grievous was beat by Gungans. 10/10

[@isimiel3405]

and thats one of the many reasons why Legends is the real canon

[@geetslys]

Hey, hey, Gungans are the best 🤣🤣

[@MalevolentSpirit234]

@@isimiel3405 well, the episode was released before Lucasfilm's sale under Filoni and Lucas, soooo it's actually happened on the Legends timeline too. "This Legends party's over" - Mace Windu, maybe.

[@OtisCluck]

Remember, Jar Jar is the exception not the rule, the Gungans are proud warriors

[@OtisCluck]

@@geetslys they’re pretty cool, it’s too bad people assume they’re all like Jar Jar

[@tysondennis1016]

The ROTS novelization makes me desire a cut where Hayden subjects the Separatist leadership to his comedy routine as he kills them. Anakin/Vader silently slaughtering them was scary enough, but if his replies to their pleas for mercy were dad jokes that are actually funny, that would show how far Anakin has fallen.

[@MalevolentSpirit234]

Well, thank God she wasn't Force Sensitive. That stunted slime would have committed Sidious-scale crimes.

[@FalconWindblader]

She would have contested Sidious' schemes if they were to meet late into their respective careers, & went for each other's throats if they were to meet early. Taking her as an apprentice wouldn't have been an option for Sidious, as she was too damn vile to be manipulated & kept around. Ironically, the galaxy as a whole wound have benefitted more if they were both Siths & gone against each other.

[@dtxspeaks268]

@@FalconWindblader imagine if Sith Shu mai turned Anakin into vader. I wonder how that apprentice-master relationship would be?

[@CommanderBow934]

Shu Mai : We we’re promised a reward and handsome reward ! Darth Vader : I am your reward you don’t fine me handsome ?

[@demi-femme4821]

I remember Shu Mai from the Episode III novelization and the savage line Anakin gave after killing her. Also from the Techno Union videos.

[@robertagu5533]

An people say THESE guys was supposed to be the good guys. I'd said Palpatine/Darth Sideous WAS the most LITERALLY evil member. seeing as he also LITERALLY played just about EVERYONE else. Not being found out till the very end, an then only by a few, whom were too late to stop in and drastically and very much underestimated just how strong and a threat he really was. THIS alien chick was basically an equivalent to one the "Dragon Queens" of ancient Asia

[@ramenbomberdeluxe4958]

I would argue they are, by design and intention, as well as the common members among the separatists, including some separatist leaders. Its only because they relied heavily on these greedy and evil monsters that their cause was tainted so badly.

[@idek6585]

I wouldn't call her a "chick" though

[@TheDONing1]

To be fair, when they say good guys they're probably referring to the Separatist Senate, not the cabal of rich greedy James Bond villains on the war council. The Separatist Cause was based on a legitimate concern, but was warped and twisted by the select few.

[@matthewkalasky2891]

@@TheDONing1 Yeah. Just as the ROTS intro crawl text said. There where both heroes on both sides, and evil was also everywhere.

[@chadpeterson5698]

Palpatine is overall the most evil character in the franchise.

[@goldpeen2661]

It's refreshing to see how much depth the Separatists get via the novelizations. Grevious saw the Republic steal victory over his people's centuries long oppressors, the murderers of his wife. He saw the desecration of his culture's most sacred sites and his people reduced to crippling poverty, so much so that he was willing to swallow his own pride and honor and sell himself into slavery to the Banking Guild. All because the Republic couldn't mind their own business. Even without the Siths manipulation his hatred for the Jedi and the Rebublic would have turned him into a monster. Shu-Mai grew up in a world so crippled by sanctions that sentient life was worth less then a scrap of food. All because some bureaucrats half a Galaxy away felt like it. Not because they had to, but because they could. She didn't escape any of this because of the kindness of another, but because of her own ruthlessness. Why would she develop a value of sentient life? Ironically, the Republic created some of it's most monstrous enemies.

[@sawjhtheian6651]

Her election slogan probably goes 'She killed my ma, she killed my pa, but I will still vote for her.' Glad she was turned into cantonese Siu Mai by Vader's lightsaber A steamy bowl of Gossam Siu Mai

[@SpaceMonkeyBoi]

Shu-Mai is like Hitler, but even Hitler cared about Germany or something

[@year111]

So she’s like Stalin he put his workers on hellish condition, killed anyone who criticized him, and took pleasure in the misery he caused.

[@bradanklauer8926]

Hitler was an evil genocidal bastard (no shit Sherlock) a d like all dictators, lives meant nothing to him. For example, towards the end of the war, he issued the infamous Nero Decree which was a scorched earth policy, calling for the destruction of everything that the Allies and Soviets could use.

[@BrokenCurtain]

I think she might be based on Ayn Rand.

[@trentw.3566]

Hitler may not have cared about Germany, since he ordered an absurd scorched earth policy that no one followed. Hitler cared about Germany for a while, because they were his power base, and once they were spent he wanted them to die as well since in defeat they had proved unworthy of him.

[@johnnyfives5416]

@@BrokenCurtain chile pinochet

[@CJ24680]

Imagine how terrifying Shu-Mei would’ve been if she was a Sith. I have a feeling she could give even Darth sidious a run for his money.

[@tuxedoninja9283]

Dang. So evil she holds that title twice. Scary.

[@RehnanCT-]

"Damn those Commerce guild Spider droids." CT-7464 Corporal Shard : 237th Battalion

[@mercenarygundam1487]

Shu-Mai is so villainous that she wouldn't seem out of place in a Saturday morning cartoon.

[@thechalupacabra3065]

"We were promised a reward! A handsome one!" Anakin, youngling slaying madlad: "Do you not find me handsome?"

[@matthewspencer5548]

"The cruelty of the commerce guild is a thing of the past!" *cheering* "Let a whole new wave of cruelty wash over this lazy land."

[@Jacob004]

That line she said in Attack of The Clones makes a lot more sense now

[@toubi4316]

3:25 You know it’s bad when a complete lack of any sense of morality is what gains someone respect in their company.

[@macwade2755]

Geetsly's: The Definitive Guide to the to the Separatists Most EVIL Leader Me: You mean Darth Sidious

[@yoavmor9002]

Nah nah at least Palpatine didn't find being evil to be a virtue in itself

[@jonathancampbell5231]

@@yoavmor9002 He totally did though. He wouldn't disagree with her philosophy at all, he would just be amused that someone as weak and shortsighted as she was thought it would do her any good.

[@yoavmor9002]

@@jonathancampbell5231 Nah, that's not what Palpatine is about. Palpatine is all about power. He wouldn't disagree with her philosophy, because he doesn't really have a philosophy, and he sees people having philosophies as week. He would also probably view her as week as well

[@jonathancampbell5231]

@@yoavmor9002 He's a Sith. He follows Sith philosophy. He is about power, but he looks down on notions of good and evil much like she does because they get in the way of attaining power.

[@chadpeterson5698]

@@yoavmor9002 oh no he did and Shu-Mai is NOTHING to Palpatine

[@g.williams2047]

Just another smart move by Palpatine to get yet another reviled person on the CIS.

[@bradanklauer8926]

Grievous was Dooku's Heinrich Himmler while Shu Mai was Dooku's Adolf Eichmann.

[@overlordelektro7940]

3:31 Mysterious Fatal Accidents? That doesn't fool me for a second, with how Vile Shù Mai was, it doesn't come as a surprise that she straight up had her rivals murdered just so she could get her way, this is very familiar, after all, Darth Sidious did the same thing to the Entire Galaxy.

[@seiboldtadelbertsmiter3735]

So basically she is the CEO of Nestle. Where is a sith Lord when you need one.

[@chadpeterson5698]

Shu-Mai: I'm the most evil Separatist Wat Tambor: hold my Pure Evil wiki page.

[@errorcrj110]

One has to wonder if she even really felt fear at the end. She probably felt her value as a potential asset would be squandered by murdering her.

[@Kippy8472]

I LOVE how much lore there is in the sw universe. There is always more to learn for the dedicated fan.

[@Cwronaga216]

This character makes me think of these Sload people from the Elder Scrolls universe as their entire species was like this character as they viewed acts of Cruelty torture murder and exploitation as signs of one's intelligence and are things that made you a good person. In their culture if you killed a child then you are a good and morally just person worthy of praise but if you help one you are a traitorous liar

[@SarcasticDragonGaming]

Imagine if she was force sensitive and became a Sith Lord. Though I guess that’s pretty much Palpatine.

[@darthguilder1923]

3:09 when those deathsticks hit

[@obihornchen6508]

lol underrated comment

[@bryanjames7528]

Tyrion: I am your gift Darth Vader: I am your reward

[@elitemook4234]

she must be the one that attacked the wookies

[@Angliscwer93]

Anakin with that fucking chad energy 😂 that was satisfying.

[@staffsgt.retired8313]

So many parallels with our world history. Am I the only one who can see them?

[@voteindependentforindepend7181]

No, its deliberate. Keeps people invested in fictional worlds while doing it for real right under their noses. When people do notice they get called conspiracy theorists and ignored regardless of the strength of their points because those not paying attention subconsciously connect those ideas with fiction and fairly tales and have been trained from birth to be cognitively dissonant.

[@1TW1-m5i]

So many industrialists, dictators, and brutal capitalists rolled into one.

[@10bears60]

B-but we were promised a reward! An handsome reward ! 😭

[@goldedrag111]

"What's wrong? You don't find me handsome?"

[@crvz9761]

Thank you for these vids! Love learning more about lesser known characters

[@geetslys]

More to come!

[@teleportedbreadfor3days]

Ok, I'm gonna put a *lot* of things aside and just talk about Vader quote in the novel: "You don't find me handsome?" Did Anakin carry his snarky sense of humor into his initial transformation into Darth Vader?

[@captaindak5119]

Initial? Didn't Vader always have a sense of humour? "Apology accepted Captain Needa." "Be careful not to choke on your aspirations, Director."

[@CHFafard]

He totally carried it over

[@teleportedbreadfor3days]

@Henry Fafard When I think about it, Vader's humor and Anakin's seem a little different in comparison.

[@CHFafard]

@@teleportedbreadfor3days but it was there

[@Phurlo]

“To the to the” *someone needs a vacation*

[@nelyrions1838]

So basically a Star wars version of Jeff bezos

[@Viperfish9000]

people on some farming world: What's this? The Corporate Alliance: That would be dirt...

[@masteroftheassassins]

I remember her. And damn. And I thought Nute Gunray was a real piece of work.

[@dtxspeaks268]

Nute gunray thinks he's tough and the center of attention but he's nothing but a little punk outmatched by everybody around him.

[@bradanklauer8926]

She made Gunray look like your average Joe with how sadistic she was.

[@soularprimestudios5930]

She is literally the type of personal Dooku would hate ironically.

[@galaxy-eyesgarchomp9478]

I would honestly love to see videos on the other CIS members.

[@Daizz009]

Shu-Mai just pulled out "I wouldn't say free, more like under new managment" card.

[@Walsinats4]

And Shu Mei once again proved how evil the republic was - as they allowed her to raise to power

[@Swivelbot]

Fun fact: shu mai actually does die on screen in revenge of the sith, right before vader kills poggle the lesser, he slices shu mai.

[@thomasschmidlin3296]

To be fair if you believe the Jedi planted a bomb on your spaceship killed your wife and child and left you looking like General Grievous you might be a genocidal maniac to

[@MrAlubenco]

Damn, sounds like she should've been working for the Empire.

[@savagedarksider5934]

This is one of the few separatist leaders I wish she was in the original trilogy.

[@CollinMcLean]

Ladies and Gentlemen… the new CEO of Amazon…

[@posindustries]

Sure, Darth Vader ushered in a new age of fascist terror upon the galaxy, but he also relieved Star Wars Ayn Rand of her head, so who's to say what's good or bad?

[@kratosboy5557]

“Under slave conditions and highly taxed” She was a monarchist all along

[@JamesTheDominator]

By the Force I think this is the earliest I’ve ever been to a video

[@macwade2755]

Great video Geetsly's! This is Canon for me!

[@ozymandiasabsurd1157]

Could you do one on San Hill and explain where the hell he was during most of the war since despite many episodes on the clone wars exploring the banking clan, we didn’t see him. I’d also like one on poggle and tambor just to see what they were in third dimensions

[@carsoncasmirri3874]

Vader may have been evil but killing all the Separatist council was doing the whole galaxy a favor

[@inkmime]

Palpatine calling it the "Triad of Evil" is fucking hilarious

[@Cuban20]

So basically, Vader killing Shu-Mai is the very first time the Guillotine the Rich Meme appeared

[@thisisdavid2]

oh please keep doing this series- would love to see you do the other Council members :)

[@jailbreak-bob1670]

Shi’ar as Commerce Guild Deathbird as ShuMai

[@daneyal7162]

She makes Dooku look like a saint.

[@rileygoddard7181]

I'd love to hear you talk more about Wat Tambor. From the Clone Wars show, we know just enough about him to know he probably has an interesting story or two in there.

[@BungLer]

I should really do my homewo- *Geetsly has uploaded a new video*

[@nolan8424]

I was afraid of her when I was a kid from her scene in attack of the clones

[@thelittleredhairedgirlfrom6527]

You were right to be afraid lol

[@dtxspeaks268]

Well that's the basics of imagery and characterization

[@patrickiamonfire965]

I love the title. To the to the. There is two to the to the.

[@josephgriffin2388]

In a word.... justified. Thank you Vader.

[@gainthailand]

Funny how they named her "Shu Mai" which is a delicious Chinese shrimp dumpling lol

[@Nephalem2002]

Huh. Honestly I thought the worst of them was Wat Tambor. *He did have the bass boosting power of the techno union.*

[@MrDarthCIS]

I'd be happy to see more CIS Leader videos, the Separatist Council is my favorite villain faction in Star Wars.

[@thenormalchannel408]

Hillary Clinton was in Star Wars? Holy shit!

[@LordWyatt]

‘You probably forgot about her-‘ *What you are proposing could be construed as Treason.*

[@royouyong2131]

Felucia's cities are named after Chinese food items! Kway Teow, Har Gau, Niango, Jiaozi. And of course Madame Shu Mai 😂

[@The3gg]

She sounds like some certain irl people

[@drew2626]

What a satisfying ending to a character which saying morally bankrupt is probably an understatement

[@shonenbag6478]

And to think she was named after dumplings. Anyway, I assume her best friend is Ha Gow.

[@frenzalrhomb6919]

"Her brain burnt head tumbling to the floor" ... And a VERY befitting end to her story, I can't imagine ...!! "Laughs in Darth Vader" ...

[@goldeagle6431]

The Senate was the most GRACIOUS leader.

[@quentinmwilson9837]

Anakin Skywalker with that flick of the wrist finisher.

[@kristianyoung990]

Join the CIS, unpleasant demise is your reward.

[@AbuHajarAlBugatti]

Well she sounds like our the poltician

[@alexlaws5086]

I knew that chick was evil, but okay.

[@amanzeihedioha]

....Well Done, Geetsly....😦 And Three Cheers for Darth Vader.