Why Most Separatists Actually Really Hated...The Separatists

[@captaindc3889]

WORD OF ADVICE: before you start a separatist movement, always check to make sure a Sith Lord isn’t using your cause as a tool to become the senate

[@neofulcrum5013]

Background check everybody!

[@geetslys]

thanks for the advice, will definitely use it next time

[@senatorluxbonteri6065]

Should’ve told me before he killed my mom

[@goldbergshekelwitz1596]

Who is the senate anyways

[@user-rr6jj5mr6f]

Captain DC Gunray: are we Sith puppets? Dooku: let me check (Leans back to Palpatine who was standing behind him) Dooku: are we Sith puppets? Palpatine: no Dooku: no

[@an0rangutan]

The literal general of the Separatists hated the Separatists, if that isn't bad enough, I don't know what is.

[@poetscotty]

Sounds about right in the Clone Wars there was no good guys

[@geetslys]

Not even the Jedi

[@imperiumCirca41]

@@geetslys -Not even you? 0:-

[@an0rangutan]

Pretty much and if you were good, you were used as a tool by someone who wasn't.

[@GODCONVOYPRIME]

Sounds like real life.

[@lifevest1]

Sep 1: Ugh, screw the commerce guild, bunch of cowards. Sep 2: I know, also wtf is up with Grevious? Jedi General: Trooper, wanna go blast some droids? Clone: Sir, yes sir!

[@polmh2237]

LONG LIVE TO THE CIS!

[@evdokiadimitrova1925]

THE CIS ARE THE BEST.

[@jaingskirata4276]

Bet it’s because they didn’t have that big boy clone plot armor

[@sorcikator993]

You need to be a named clone for that plot armor though. Even then.

[@jaingskirata4276]

Lucky for me.... haha, I am

[@sorcikator993]

@@jaingskirata4276 Just try to not get yourself in a situation where your death would create a dramatic situation for your general.

[@jaingskirata4276]

Buddy, I am a null arc. I’d take more than the entire separatist armada to kill me

[@jaingskirata4276]

I’d easily end them with my other null brothers

[@akumaking1]

To be united by hatred . . .

[@collinbeckham8259]

The Five Syndicates are a more stable faction than either the Separatists or the Republic ever were.

[@zexalbrony4799]

The CIS: Were so bad, we even hate ourselves. XD. Also, 8:48-8:52: Reluctantly? More like willingly and happily with how the Jedi and Clones helped them and showed them why they were better then the CIS, like Lux said to Ahsoka.

[@lordwarlockthangwrath8662]

Pro tip : if you have to get involved in a war, become a an arms dealer, they are the only ones to truly win in any conflicts.

[@yaang9258]

Mace: the Senate will decide what to do with you Palpatine: I am the Senates! Sepatist Council: wha.....?

[@KlaxontheImpailr]

1:40 lol look how smug he is XD

[@xMrMayhemx]

do you guys upload simultanously by accident or is this a thing between you? or is it just the best time to upload star wars content?

[@sigmundholt2313]

Id want to see a galaxy were planets are self sufficient and engage in trade for growth. Being totally reliant on the other worlds seems to screw you in the end in the SW galaxy as some sith will just kick the janga tower over from time to time.

[@Angel24Marin]

That is hard because hyperspace lanes are chains of planet and if someone block his system screw the whole lane.

[@nobleman9393]

Easier said than done

[@tristankawatsuma8962]

Problem: Richer and more powerful planets will cause trouble for the weaker ones. Eventually an organized coalition of planets like the Republic would have to be formed.

[@wyvernasaur2398]

FOR THE REPUBLIC!!!

[@haydenedgar3769]

Id say neutral

[@arctic_patrick7735]

One singular dislike

[@wyatthamilton4837]

Irony

[@СохибжамолСолиева]

I'm Alone 😍😥

[@badgamemaster]

"This is a democracy, and unlike the Republic, corporations do not rule us." - Kerch Kushi "heh" -Me

[@Orto-jj2di]

That was true in part. Corporations just provided things, the sith it them though not really

[@jigolocana7492]

Yet corporations hold much of the of the confederacy's power and influence.

[@Orto-jj2di]

@@jigolocana7492 that also is a fact yes

[@michaelhowze8198]

He's not wrong the corps weren't running anything. Everyone in both "sides" were just tools for Sheev.

[@droidmaker7932]

@@michaelhowze8198 i think you meant “fools”.

[@alexlaws5086]

A house divided, or something

[@captaindc3889]

It’s from Abe “Simp” Lincoln

[@nickstart2299]

>America

[@gideonthangcin8179]

A house divided, can’t do multiplication?

[@alexlaws5086]

@@gideonthangcin8179 Something like that

[@WalkerReddignton]

A house divided against a divided house will implode

[@archsteel7]

"To be united by hatred... Is a *fragile* alliance at best." ~ Kreia

[@apolloknight9521]

“Money always carries political power” Ain’t that the truth, this applies to real life Governments and Corporations as well.

[@apolloknight9521]

Quinn Hasse true

[@magallanthepenguin9132]

yes...im looking straight at the world's health organizations corrupt af

[@jimmygee3219]

That’s exactly something George was trying to relay. Star Wars has always been political and a political commentary

[@cohensmith6100]

@@magallanthepenguin9132 fr

[@lasagnakob9908]

Separatists: *Don't like the Republic, form Separatist alliance* Sith: *Secretly take over and let corrupt mega-corporations run the show* Separatists: "Wait, no"

[@videocrowsnest5251]

You know - If the Jedi weren't basically too blind to understand they were being used by the Republic as little more than errand boys/attack dogs, THE scenario here like the Separatist crisis is exactly when you would need neutral, level headed, calm, yet compassionate negotiators, with a reputation of results to help both sides talk out their differences, whom are motivated by avoiding bloodshed for the sake of the peoples of the galaxy, and thus everyone woulda avoided a whole lotta carnage. It's sad really...the Clone Wars era a time where the Jedi were needed to do what they were there to do (Be peacekeepers, negotiators, guardians of peace, and all around trying to inspire others to do good), but they had become too accustomed to the stench of corruption, and thus not seeing the Republic was dragging them by the leach to a whole lotta trouble. The fact they lost their way, and failed to help weave peace here is just tragic.

[@Killzoneguy117]

From the beginning, the Jedi treated the Separatists as an outside, existential threat to the Republic and not a rival and legitimate faction within the Republic itself with valid grievances against the Core worlds. If they were peacekeepers, they would have sought to arbitrate between the two sides as they would have between two rival political camps in the Senate. Instead, they straight up yeeted turbolasers and clone troopers at them.

[@videocrowsnest5251]

@@Killzoneguy117 Exactly. It's rather strange really to think about - Maybe the fact Maul showed up shook them so badly they saw it as too convenient to not be some Sithy business? The Jedi did seem to despite their decline prior to the Separatists becoming a thing have a keen interest in peace.

[@lucalinadreemur9448]

Yeah it's like the governing body over the Jedi were all emulating Revan, but without an opponent as easy to dedicate oneself to the destruction of, as the Mandalorians

[@videocrowsnest5251]

@@lucalinadreemur9448 The Mandalorian crusades probably did contribute to the Jedi Order going lightsabres-a-blazing mode. "Mandalorian space" was located in the outer-rim after all. Due to Coruscant being the location of the Jedi order HQ for quite sometime, it made it very easy for the Jedi to also be tainted by the Core world mentality of "those savages from the outer-rim", especially if you consider the Mandalorians, and their rather brutal crusaders. In a sense - Its like the Jedi order was half-awake during history class, and didn't realize things change: No longer is that where the Mandalorians hang out at, ready to strike it, and instead you have poor, very abused systems supplying all the raw-materials, but not getting much in return. Ergo - Failing to live with the times to understand why the modern day Outer-rim systems had a legitimate grievance with the Republic, and thus seeing them as actually having a fair point. Thus the tragedy of the Jedi Order: At such a time as that of extreme polarization and factions forming as opposing movements to one another: A neutral fair party, as well as diplomats, negotiators, and calmer heads are a vital resource to stop the situation from escalating into violence. Unfortunately, they did not perform the very duty they were most likely the best fit for, and we all know how that worked out.

[@ruifigueiredo5486]

@@Killzoneguy117 they were peacekeepers the seperatists attacked first and started the war hell they were getting for it by building an army

[@neofulcrum5013]

Honestly who would want a council of corporates as their leaders? Definitely not good for PR

[@geetslys]

Stupid idea too, especially ones that clearly aren’t neutral

[@nickstart2299]

>ever heard of lobbying? It's literally all of American politics lmao

[@happydayaday8293]

areeged

[@helgastt]

The Council is not the ultimate power of the Separatists, their decision-making powers are equal to those of the parliament. When one of them vote for the application of a decision, the other one can put his veto if its unacceptable for him. Again, its a Confederation so nobody have more power than the others, the only exceptions are Dooku and Grievous since they are the supreme leaders of political and military institutions. The Council seem more important only because they are prime targets since they know a lot of highly strategic informations and the Republic can use them as hostages to force their corporations to stop any support to the Separatist Alliance. So, yes, the Council have some privileges and they are heavily guarded, which may make them seem more important than the Parliament, but its only to prevent them to be captured and because they have a big influence over all the Confederacy since it is their corporations that supply the Separatists with almost all of their droids armies and some new technologies, not because they are the leaders of the Confederation.

[@TheRealReVeLaTioN]

2020 taught us that about 72 million people in the US wanted our government to cater to corporations... the same corporate people they elected in 2016. All the corporate people had to do is say they were helping the working class even though the only policies passed were passed to help corporations. It’s sad but there are a lot of people in the US that prefer to be led by a Sith-like leader. Especially one that treats non-white humans like the “aliens” were treated in the empire.

[@indianajones4321]

I guess the Techno Union Army is not at your disposal Count The Banking Clan will not sign your treaty And WE MUST GET THE STARSHIPS BACK INTO SPACE

[@senatorluxbonteri6065]

Navin Singh you just translated the language of gods to written words

[@Hydra-yq7le]

I believe that separatist crisis would still happen regardless of the sith and the Droid army. It just wouldn't have been as long and as deadly since it would be small planetary defense forces fighting each other.

[@stingywingy1607]

Yeah only the corporate worlds would likely remain in the republic or a few like the vengeful ones would break off but not join with the idealists.

[@JohnGeorgeBauerBuis]

Exactly.

[@imperiumCirca41]

Here's a quote that explains the Confederacy "if you want peace,Prepare for War"

[@yourlocalmadjack8374]

I want you demonitized because you said the horrific slur "Clanker" in your description

[@Hello-eq4db]

Bro, that's politically incorrect. At least leave off the R

[@demi-femme4821]

Nah, nah, Geetsly's got that cl-word pass.

[@hunterpyron2535]

@@demi-femme4821 i was just about to cancel him on Twitter.... its a joke

[@Skipadyboi]

Whats good my clanka

[@WikiHL]

"Clanker is *our* word You can use Clanka though"

[@CollinMcLean]

From a logical perspective, the Republic was slowly dying without meaningful reform, that much is pretty clear... However even if the Separatists defeated them... it's pretty obvious the CIS would've eventually torn itself to pieces in a matter of years, decades at the most...

[@matthewdragan5780]

Did you ever notice that the seps council room looks like a courtroom from England.

[@gideonthangcin8179]

It was small is all I really noticed

[@geetslys]

Yes, it’s a parliament so that makes sense that it’s based off England’s structure

[@dapperfield595]

The UK colonized the galaxy obviously, why do you think they all speak English?

[@maxmuller8633]

@@dapperfield595 Maybe American or Canadian, they don't sound British. Or it is, THE GALATIC ACCENT

[@normanosborn3181]

Max Müller I mean half of the main characters are from the uk so yes they do sound British

[@kaijuguy19]

Honestly this is making me want to see a series/movie about the Separatists side of the Clone wars story to further explore how the Clone Wars affected the planets that are aligned with the CIS and how each planet got screwed over in different ways to further show how tragic it was for them as was the Republics.

[@seanmoran9383]

The one person who disliked is Nute Gunray

[@brendenalexander6178]

Hmm. This is a good one. If I was ruler of my own star system and had to decide which faction to side with. Both side isn't promising at all. So we'll try to stay neutral during the Separatist Crisis, but be militarily prepared for anything that'll enter our sovereign space. But in time of crisis, I'll side with the Republic. Extra star destroyer fleets, extra reinforcements, medical access, hyper tradelinks, and nice Republic military hardware's for me soldiers to use cause why not. Lmao! The Republic got some nice arsenals. But in the end, here comes Emperor Palpatine big dick energy! Wait, hold up!? Is there a redo on this? Cause I forgot to read the last print! 🥴

[@TempestsFist]

man this is sad to see, as I like the Separatists more than the Republic.

[@changgyulee3561]

Same here.

[@tristankawatsuma8962]

Well, if the Republic’s dirty laundry is being dragged out, got to do the same for everyone else. Though Geetsly has yet to do the Rebels or the New Republic. Probably because the Galactic Civil War is as black and white as a war could get.

[@alejandroelluxray5298]

Well what did you expected from a faction that starved an entire planet, used human shields often and bombarded an made an entire genocide just to prove a point (Looking at YOU, Grievous)? And that's only a few of the war crimes they committed

[@chuckleshelicopterwigwamjo7315]

Damn Separatists! They've ruined the CIS!

[@geetslys]

You Separatists sure are a contentious people!

[@adamlong1196]

"to be United by Hatred is a fragile alliance at best"

[@brotherhoodpalidan211]

"A house divided cannot stand" Abe Lincoln

[@jamescalderon289]

Wow, Palpatine really was playing that 4D chess.

[@matthewdragan5780]

all Palpa had to do was sit back and watch the war go on and occasionally keep aniken from going into a battle he might die in, then sweep in.

[@zhain0]

@Brazillian Rhapsody in the phantom menace, after anikin destroys the droid mother ship, palp says he will be watching anakin very closely. Its clear his intent from then and knew or sensed what anikin was.

[@magallanthepenguin9132]

4:48 money carries more political powers. im looking at you, world health organization...

[@Justin-yt7pi]

Okay…

[@akechiv1855]

Separatists: Don't trust anyone, not even yourself, or yourself, or yourself or even yourself.

[@V2011F]

I think I speak for the entire 501st when I say..... FOR THE REPUBLIC!

[@imagamingdragon2091]

literally 1 person has disliked this video out of 10,000 views. It speaks to the quality of these videos from a youtuber who could and probably will grow to double, triple the amount of subscribers they currently have.

[@seawind930]

Only one? say no more.

[@carsoncasmirri3874]

I’m kinda surprised more people didn’t attack Muunilinst considering how the banking clan essentially bankrolled or had a hand in all the atrocities committed in the galaxy

[@MediumRareOpinions]

Well it is bad business to go to war with your banker.

[@Lordregiwald]

I think the divide between adversarial and idealist principles is very interesting. Both ideologies must exist together to some capacity.

[@medievalchameleon102]

by the time im watching this theres no dislikes

[@randallrona9618]

Also, I would like to see a Separatist Civil War. Just imagine it happened after Mina Bonteri(mother of Lux) was assassinated and some smart Separatist military officials(who clearly hated the Corporate factions like Trade Federation and wanted a truce that Bonteri offered so they have more time to rebuild their armies) discovered it was Dooku ordered the assassination. There will be a coup and uprisings around the Separatist worlds but that's another story for another time.

[@robertagu5533]

For basically hating themselves.. the Confederates that hated... the Confederates must not have hated the rest all that much. It didnt stop them from fighting Republic forces and didnt, least that I've heard, spark enough ire an hate for them to ACTIVELY attack other Separatists Some these seem to have only suceded due to purely admin reasons. Makes me also wonder if any ever rejoined or wanted to, or would've had they had a change of heart about the Republic other then outlined Onderon

[@joshuahiatt9064]

I don't know, I think I may have joined neither side. Depending where I lived i may have been forced to pick one or the other like you just said. Although once the rise of the empire occured I'd probably join straight up with them, not realizing what a mistake it's be in about 5-10 years.

[@goldeagle6431]

The Senate loved the Separatists.

[@imperialhighcommand8535]

The fools brought their suffering on themselves. They could have resolved their differences with the core previously, but instead resorted to terrorism, treason and rebellion. War crimes were rampant. They paid for their secession with defeat. But do not think that the Empire hated them. We accepted them back with open arms once they saw the error of their ways and rallied to his majesty's banner following the Purge of the traitorous Jedi. And yet now, we deal with the next generation of Separatists, known as the Rebels...

[@Finn_7117]

For the Empire!

[@alejandroelluxray5298]

Yeah I agree, although not for the Imperial part, I will be a part of building a New Republic

[@greenaceman5351]

Permision to take down the "new republic" Rebels sir

[@alejandroelluxray5298]

@@greenaceman5351 good luck trying, and bring something better than those "Stormtroopers"

[@imperialhighcommand8535]

@@greenaceman5351 Permission granted. You shall have the Seventh Fleet reinforce you. Destroy these dissidents.

[@DISTurbedwaffle918]

"Well, he roped me into this!" -like 50% of the CIS

[@Vienna3080]

Neutral Systems Gang!

[@demi-femme4821]

Have fun getting steamrolled either by the Republic or the CIS.

[@Justin-yt7pi]

@@demi-femme4821 I mean guerrilla warfare tactics and torturing Jedi for spite.

[@Killzoneguy117]

To be honest, I suspect this was deliberately done by Palpatine in order to better re-integrate Separatist worlds after the end of the Clone Wars and to discredit any idea of rebellion against the Empire because people would have such a bad taste in their mouth from the last rebellion against him.

[@Aanteatur]

Palpatine started everything😂 if anything he's the one enemy everyone should have been against but everyone was a puppet. The entire universe got played lmao

[@brutonbricks9517]

You have become the very thing you swore to destroy

[@Canoby]

Interstellar politics makes for xenomorphic bedfellows

[@lottenetzel8751]

To be honest, if Cao Cao was there, he would join the Separatist Council and leave to make his own movement to spite Palpatine only to get whacked by Lord Vader.

[@apolloknight9521]

Also, I have one question. Where are you getting these source of information? I’ve been looking through Star Wars Wiki and I’m trying to learn more information about this.

[@kaminoondori2620]

the one person who disliked this smells like bong water

[@gamecubekingdevon3]

1:40 ---> ah yes, looking exactly like IRL politics

[@edwardaugustus9680]

Idealist Separatism was probably the best view to have, the Republic was a mess. Though the CIS didn't turn out much better...

[@eyeballpapercut4400]

You forgot the actual reason they had hate between themselves: non-stop techno music

[@tightdino1603]

Am i the only one who had to read the title of the video twice to actually understand what it said

[@spaceacereviews3338]

Any one else notice that the CIS symbol is just a tie fighter wing ?

[@Giganfan2k1]

If I was in the star wars universe i would go to wild space take a construction droid start working on a dyson swarm, and stellar thrusters.

[@tylerhartlep2131]

“Hey, the Empire can’t do this!” Palps: sihdn CIS fjshsjh Grievous “Understandable have a nice day.

[@Mr.Boyo13]

It's ironic that the people who were fighting injustices and decades of exploiting their resources had leaders that caused those Injustices and exploitation. Bruh...I like their cause,but don't be like...a certain type of political party that says one thing and goes back on their word

[@863victor]

Great background music in the intro 👌

[@berkaltuglu8140]

"Damn those Separatist! They ruined Separatists!"

[@spencerstrickland5266]

This is why I personally call them 'the Separatists Coalition' in place of "Separatists Alliance" Coalitions are just temporary alliances. I also call them the C.I.P. 'Confederacy of Independent Planets' not "Systems" Because "CIS" is just too close to CSI, and it's more accurate since planets are individuals within solar systems. It's not likely that an entire solar system would unanimously agree to join the Confederacy just because one or more planets in a solar system wanted to join while the rest didn't.

[@zaboomerfooo]

I think Wookie's would be a better clone template, because they are strong, smart and extremely loyal

[@samueldimmock694]

Larger hitbox makes them less effective, especially against mass-fire tactics. They also take more food and require more space in starships or starfighters. Also, humans might be more adaptable--this is one of the things they are known for, with the other being their enormous numbers advantage over pretty much any other species and the fact that all their other attributes are pretty much average.

[@Raphley]

You could say the cis embodies the old saying „the enemy of my enemy is my friend” to a degree

[@stephenmckee3235]

I would be that drunk mandalorian

[@philosophicalgardner5609]

Okay, that does it! I'm forming a Separate Separatist movement to separate these surreptitious separatists from our superbly sublime separatists.

[@tristankawatsuma8962]

Then you would be attacked by both the Republic and the Separatists unless you made an alliance with either one. Neutral worlds won’t help you because you are still a Separatist movement and thus a target to the Republic. Teaming up with the Republic gives you an ally, though I doubt your citizens would like that and would fear the Republic would eventually drag them back in. Teaming up with the Separatists is counter-productive, so I say it would only be a matter of time until they temporarily teamed up to take you down.

[@masongohman2773]

These videos are truly my favorite

[@tomperry5947]

Cis Parliament is based on the British one that's where the voice vote comes from

[@novatheboss2]

It was at 66 comments before this one no need to thank me jedi

[@ravager2-636]

We always hate the ones we love..

[@isaackim7675]

Sometimes you've got to be cruel to be kind

[@nobleman9393]

Wat?

[@christophersalinas2722]

And you’re sounding like a separatist.

[@diegodlv1001]

Sounds like republic propoganda to me

[@leodoz1016]

Essentially, the Clone wars is just a hypothetical war between Medieval Vatican and Buy 'n Large (I'm not suprised if noone knows the latter lmfao)

[@blorb2120]

But who's the ships evil steering wheel?... papa palpetine...

[@empireofitalypsstimfromano5025]

Probably The Confederacy Should Have Made Official The Fact That The Separatist Council Was Just An Emergency War Mesure And The Confederacy Would Work Properly During Peacetime. That's How Most Working Confederancies Work. If They Announced It Officially To The Public The Public Would Have Remained Calm (Alderaan Wouldn't Have Revolted) If They Knew That After The War The Confederacy Would Have Been What They Believed It Would Have Been. During Peacetime Evrything Works Properly. During War Some Measures Get Ignored To Boost The War Effort.

[@dylanadams9745]

The Separatist parliament looks a lot like the House of Commons in British parliament.

[@Finn_7117]

The clone wars wasn’t one war it was a dozen of big battles between clones and droids and 1000 little rivalries starting back up

[@seanmoran9383]

Dozens of big battles between two sides is...is a war..

[@Lordregiwald]

What's the song that plays from 4:09 to the end?

[@KingDerpy13]

This is like a Balkans joke. How Serbians hate Bulgarians, Croatians, Albanians, and other Serbians!

[@warlordofbritannia]

“A house divided against itself cannot stand; the galaxy cannot endure half sep and half Sheev. I do not expect the galaxy to destroy itself-I do not expect the house to fall-but I do expect the galaxy must become all separatist or the Senate.

[@The7thFleet]

Title: *Exists Me: "So the only thing you can tell me, is that I can find Jabba in Jabba's palace"

[@higherground9888]

Ever get the feeling SW was revealing the Real World elites playbook? I do.

[@Acoto]

Last

[@unbeaked_duck6816]

So they fell apart

[@bi-bopproductions4227]

No dislikes. Good

[@CygnusTheSilly]

I can confirm when I look at the mirror I hate myself by bill wurtz starts playing

[@andycopeland7051]

You should list your sources for the curious

[@maxwellvohland3326]

You forgot about free trade zones and that the corporate world‘s were actually wanting to be separatist

[@CloneScavengerVulpin8389]

Many separatist worlds suffered under imperial rule.

[@Bennahr_Fett]

is Munalist or Scipio home of the Banking Clan?