Why the Empire LOVED this Planet Where Men Were Seen as Biologically Inferior - Hapes Explained

[@user-rr6jj5mr6f]

Palpatine: I simp for no woman Queen Mother: I’ve murdered or gaslight my entire family and hate the Jedi despite the fact they did nothing to me Palpatine: ok maybe one

[@90skidcultist]

I wonder if some of their ancient lore with the Jedi got miss interpreted over the centuries? Or perhaps they rewrote their history & made it seem like they liberated themselves. …Then later claimed the Jedi did not to help them; seeing them as hypocrites🤷🏻‍♂️. Plus, any fascist government needs a “Boggie Man” to rally their ppl against a common cause.

[@ObiClon]

The Courtship of Princess Leia is one of my favorite novels I own from the Legends era of Star Wars. And the ships of the Hapes Consortium are real marvels.

[@CC--jk6cr]

I’m sure the Hapan women “let” men fight in the military, but not as officers in any real capacity.

[@DoctorCyan]

They had barrack bunnies and everything 🤣🤣🤣

[@haydenj.powers5180]

Tenel Ka Chume Ta'Djo is one of the most interesting characters. Daughter of a Hapen royal and Witch of Dathomir, Jedi Knight an Secretly a princess known to rarely laugh, and Queen Mother and Wife of a the Dark Lord of the Sith, Mother to the prophesized Jedi Queen.

[@cgstudiosthebaconbro]

Palpatine down bad ngl

[@marielawrence468]

🤣

[@ramenbomberdeluxe4958]

He wanted some dommy mommies in his court.

[@rinokumera5907]

😂🤣😂

[@lennartgamer2339]

He need da shrex to have da good time, cause he is da empror

[@kylekopsi7039]

He’s literally me

[@michaelandreipalon359]

Prolly controversial sidenote: I still think Courtship of Princess Leia feels not only underappreciated, but also overhated. In my opinion, it's early Star Wars camp done decently right once you get to know it, even compared to the Jedi Academy trilogy and, ugh, The Crystal Star and Jedi Prince. Helps that it's part of the Essential Legends Collection of novels, though I still complain of the inclusion of The Old Republic tie-ins like bloody Revan.

[@islandmaster5064]

That was an amazing book in my opinion. We get to see the witches of dathomir and their views on the force with what they see as light and dark, cool force abilities including communication via the force, storm wielding ,a sort of dust holograms and more.

[@Toramai-pi8wx]

I think the problem is the fact that there is well a lot of dubious consent if you want to be nice about it, and downright rape in other cases.

[@islandmaster5064]

@Toramai-pi8wx I don't recall that in the book. I recall that Han was forced tortured by the leader of the nightwitches and was forced to work to get the giant worms...

[@namelesssomebody2557]

Courtship of Princess Leia created Dathomir

[@islandmaster5064]

@namelesssomebody2557 with some of the best characters, plots and lore in both EU and clone wars

[@kevingluys3063]

Maybe not Sidious, but I could definitely see Palpatine being sort of like the historical Cleopatra was to roman men. Kind of old and frumpy, but exuding charisma that makes these lady tyrants see his as a super-special-exotic socially dominating but still flattering male.

[@johannesseyfried7933]

Palpatine: "Master, do I really have to do this?" Darth Plagueis: "Yes, Sidious. Infiltrating the queen's palace and seducing her are vital steps to our plan." Palpatine: "Not that! Do I have to be smuggled into the palace in a rolled up carpet?! It feels humiliating."

[@DescryMirare]

​@@johannesseyfried7933probably said do it

[@mr.boomguy]

Correction. That's Julius Caesar's gimmick

[@felixleong61]

@@johannesseyfried7933 Also Palpatine once in front of the queen: *Kinect Star Wars: Galactic Dance Off - Ghost 'n' Stuff*

[@thalmoragent9344]

In Star Wars, Empire at War; Forces of Corruption, I remember securing the top Right Quarter of the Galaxy, then making a mission to B-line to Coruscant. On my way, I saw the Transitory Mists and the small Hapes Consortium inside it. Easy Conquest in the end, but cool to see the full on lore for it. I fortified that area as a chokepoint with my best shipyards and Defense Platforms. Now that I know the ladies there hate men, well.... they must've hated a man occupying their space as his own personal defense/production center. 😅 3:02 Not gonna lie, never understood why this was their final decision, considering how many of their male relatives were taken young to be conscripted into piracy. I'd have expected them to hate piracy, not just men. If anything, if the genders were swapped, I honestly don't see this playing out the same way. (Not to mention, killing cousins and their own kids in political plays is... insane.) Shoot, the fact the men mostly tried to escape later on and willingly join pirates to escape this society shows a tragic cycle of oppression.

[@luigi180]

Good old Hapes just being turned into a mining colony in Empire At War. Lotta creds in those rich worlds!!

[@teleportedbreadfor3days]

There’s a mod that adds the Hapes Consortium, along with the Yuuzhan Vong and Imperial Remnants.

[@luigi180]

@@teleportedbreadfor3days What mod are you playing? I thought you were talking about Empire at War: Expanded Thrawn's Revenge... but they dont have the Vong YET.

[@teleportedbreadfor3days]

@@luigi180 That’s what I’m talking about. But I think ‘Thrawn’s Revenge’ goes as far as into the Thrawn Campaign. Idk, there seems to be a lot of versions of the mod on the Steam Workshop, it gets confusing. But I promise, you can play as the Yuuzhan Vong. I can’t make this up.

[@RLJSlick]

I love these "pre-Disney" videos, Nice work...

[@grandadmiralzaarin4962]

Perhaps a video on the Yevetha, their enslavement, their revolt against the Empire and their rise as a threat to the Galaxy during the Black Fleet Crisis?

[@rexlumontad5644]

Their ships are pretty cool to look at.

[@michaelandreipalon359]

Agreed, and it's quite a shame they lack a numerical diversity on their ship types pictured, even in mods like Thrawn's Revenge.

[@at1the1beginning]

Inspiration: sex toys

[@ACEnBEAKY]

I bet the empire liked Hapes because all the men seeking a better life would see joining the empire as an upgrade, not only to living under the matriarchy, but an upgrade to living in a pirate clan to escape said matriarchy. Experience as a pirate would probably toughen them up for Imperial military service. After military service, they could retire to a civilized society that didn't treat them like 2nd class citizens, but actually gave them preferential treatment as human males. It would've been the civilization of Hapes without the anti male sentiment, the masculinity of the pirate clans but with better retirement options. Be almost like economic star wars version of MGTOW and Passport Bros.

[@noahtylerpritchett2682]

Hapans probably wouldn't be allowed to join. They're eyesight was poor in high light environments

[@mill2712]

​@@noahtylerpritchett2682 Not something that couldn't be fixed with some augmentations if the exiles or imperials wanted to.

[@ACEnBEAKY]

@@noahtylerpritchett2682 the empire could adjust helmets or wear goggles or get contacts, or just get assigned to darker work environments, night missions, support jobs etc.

[@noahtylerpritchett2682]

@@ACEnBEAKY perhaps. But the most I see happening is the Hapes Consortium paying small few taxes

[@emeraldcityelicitor2281]

I love when you put out topics I didn't even know that I was dying to know about

[@rhydonbeacham]

Considering the female supremacy and view of men being inferior kind of reminds me of the Amazons from Greek mythology; furthermore, I can’t help but wonder if the person who added the Hapes Consortium to the Star Wars universe was also a Star Trek fan in order to make the Nova battlecruisers; not to mention the Hapan Battle Dragon being inspired by the Cylon Basestars from Battlestar Galactica (granted this is being said by someone who has NEVER seen a single episode of either Star Trek or Battlestar Galactica)

[@DLR1997]

The Amazons are better than them

[@Loneguy22]

You're right about the Hapan ships. I've watched both shows and I agree that the Nova Battle cruiser wouldn't look out of place in Star Trek while the Battle dragon is a Base star rip-off.

[@zexalbrony4799]

So it looks liek there was a fifth way to try and stay out of the Clone Wars. We've already have living in extremely remote unimportant worlds, joining the Council of Neutral Ssytems, living in Hutt Space, and going to Korellia, and now we have added going to the Hapes system.

[@johannesseyfried7933]

Corellia

[@OMEGATHENIETZCHIAN]

I'd love to hear more about the Nyriaan, O'reenian, Tof, Vagaari, Vultan, Advozse,...and especially the Anarrian and Altiri with their planetary rivalry.

[@johnrandolph1989]

Bunnies at the playboy machin often spoke of how gross it was to sleep with Hugh HefnerBunnies at the playboy machin often spoke of how gross it was to sleep with Hugh Hefner, so getting their freak on with the emperor must have been at least 10 times as bad or even worse.😱

[@iNsOmNiAcAnDrEw]

Wasn't there a one-armed female Hapan Jedi with red/orange hair in Legends that was a friend of the Solo children?

[@leafiddick2976]

Yes, Tenel Ka was a friend to the Solo kids, she was Jacen’s wife at one point.

[@reginajanelilianapatterson5838]

Tenel Ka Djo. She became queen and had an extramarital tryst with Jacen Solo, having a daughter by him.

[@kyleslavik6324]

Great video on the history and technology of the Hapans their natural nature beauty of their home planet is truly beautiful.

[@ToddAdams1234]

I’d like to know more about the Hutt’s and then how they came to be so powerful.

[@DescryMirare]

Me 2

[@Thatoneidiot001]

Me 3

[@RayHardman7567]

Love 90's legends. All the great stories. The hapes, chiss, and vong were the best parts.

[@ZayZoot]

Quite ballsy for a people who can be completely blinded by turning off the lights and closing some curtains.

[@lordcline217]

I love this channel, i love all the content you produce! I'm in the middle of reading the new jedi order and i really think you would do it justice

[@TheAntiburglar]

The Hapes Consortium has some interesting ships, but I hate the whole "some people are just inferior" thing. I prefer Mandalorians who celebrate everyone who can do murder! Regardless of gender! :D Also I've always pronounced it like capes, rather than "Hay-Pees" and that has thrown me this entire video, but I still love you guys 😂

[@alejandroelluxray5298]

Mandalorians superior Hapans most inferior

[@brokenbridge6316]

Sounds like the Hapes were a universe onto themselves. Nice video.

[@aytgh]

The current Western society the planet

[@mill2712]

Nah they actually seem a bit more competent.

[@silverfoxdelta290]

so the Hapes was basically the barbie movie with less pink

[@DLR1997]

Yes and I would rather live in Barbie Land than there

[@bowlingpin3092]

Can you really blame the man for wanting some dommy mommies?

[@8_8_Purpura_Committatus_0_5]

In old Canon it was Full of proud civilisations. In new canon it is full of weak pathetic "civilisations".

[@HUFFLE-PUFF]

Sidius, smashing, is craazzzyy!! 😂

[@RedRiot-6782]

Can we get a video about corsec

[@michaelandreipalon359]

Same.

[@metagamingbastards5379]

Third

[@Thechezbailey]

Lol the subtitles take some hilarious liberties. I really appreciate that 😅

[@randallpetroelje3913]

Palpatine and KK getting it on

[@VacadoRay]

Palpy doesn't F i refuse to believe it😂

[@lerneanlion]

If the Jedi can convinced the Republic to leave the Hapes Cluster alone, then can't they do the same for the Outer Rim?

[@greatazuredragon]

Awesome chapter, thanks for the update.

[@marshalllatta2073]

Can you do a video about some of the star wars planets

[@SuperStig92]

I am so sorry, I heard Herpes and now I can't unhear that 💀

[@snorlaxmunch8675]

This explains a whole lot about the Hapan society from the legends books I read

[@jeffagain7516]

So, Star Wars created their own DROW species, with all the typical silliness that entails.

[@bman3794]

Many people don’t know this, but the emperor was descended from a long line of Hapan queens. Explains a lot, don’t it?

[@inquisitorgarza312]

Ah a world were all simps could feel welcome and then stomp on and force to work in the mines and to never see the rest of the Galaxy for the rest of their lives.

[@mike-0451]

Why is this a trope in science fiction?

[@ZontarDow]

Because some people really like the idea of a functional matriarchal government despite no real world examples existing.

[@mike-0451]

@@ZontarDow I wonder why that is

[@adrianaslund8605]

​@@ZontarDowDon't know why you seem giddy about pointing that out but historicallly there's been some. The Haudenosaunee confederacy was fairly matriarchal. And did quite well.

[@adrianaslund8605]

​@@mike-0451Probably because women have been shafted throughout most of human history. And people like seeing underdogs win.

[@mike-0451]

@@adrianaslund8605 I don't know about underdogs but I agree that women didn't get as many opportunities in warfare as men. I'm sure there were other, even more dangerous things they'd love to do but I'd say everyone got their fair share of pain and suffering back then.

[@jamiewalsh3349]

So the Hapen's are basically the Star Wars equivalent to Amazons? Also what really cool sleek ships they have.

[@richietribe9487]

Not really. Amazons had no males and they didn't hate men either

[@nightspawnson-of-luna4936]

@@richietribe9487 Iirc they had...some men for...reproductive purposes? (Although that may have been a riodon-ism?)

[@richietribe9487]

@@nightspawnson-of-luna4936 From what I know of the stories, many Amazones have never even seen a male before

[@nightspawnson-of-luna4936]

@@richietribe9487 I swear I read something about them going to neigboring towns so they'd have a second generation of Amazons... And they'd only take the girls?)

[@richietribe9487]

@@nightspawnson-of-luna4936 Maybe only the elders do it or something...

[@aramsantos86]

Videos like this reminds me why I love the EU. Thank you!

[@inductivegrunt94]

Probably one of the best non-major factions in all of Star Wars. Their ships are definitely a massive plus for the Consortium as a whole. My favorite is definitely their signature Battle Dragons.

[@reginajanelilianapatterson5838]

Holy shit! My old avatar look in Second Life appears in 14:03. Lily.Kanashimi! That's me! :D still play a Hapan Royal Navy Admiral, but with a much newer and better avi. Star Wars Roleplay needs more people and the Hapes Consortiumis open to new faces! ❤ shameless plug!

[@Ether_Liner_Ado_Edem]

I wouldnt be surprised if this got included into the new canon judt for everyone to scream at disney for woke writing. The arguments would get a good laugh from me tbh. Oh yeah Palps is DOWN BAD 😭

[@darthfrelih6189]

Yo bro it is Andrew Tate 3:18

[@oneillconnorg]

Why the extra “es” in Hapes? It’s one syllable 😂

[@lordcline217]

I really wish you would dive as deep into the vong war, 19 book new jedi order series, as you did the clone wars

[@noahtylerpritchett2682]

I wonder if the Galactic Empire ever tried to taxed them?

[@kaptainKononeil]

Can you do one about jabim (where nimbus commandos are from)

[@Omnipulsar]

feminist would love to turn our in real life planet into this

[@ericchen122]

When are you going to focus on Israel’s genocide of Palestinians instead of feminists?

[@ericchen122]

@@Omnipulsar Where’s that same energy for Israel’s genocide of Gaza?

[@Alisa1488-g3s]

Those aren't real feminists

[@shanenolan5625]

Cheers

[@rexlevitak1]

Because death by snu snu is the best way to go

[@vortega472]

Did anybody really hate the title: The Courtship of Princess Leia - I got through backs to the Bill Bixby show from the 60's.

[@quantemwensday]

YAY sifi wifu planet

[@rexlumontad5644]

*thumbnail* How Rey's grandparents met each other.

[@lindensims4969]

Nooooo

[@bloodknight7420]

Palp’s you ol Sith Lord Dawg I wanna party with Our Emperor 🧎‍♂️

[@Aedoucan]

ya know, kudos to you mate, i wouldent even dare try to pronounce these names out loud even the friggin kashyyk citys that you did.

[@isaiahjolin7178]

Hello Geetslys. My name is Isaiah and I have something to say to you. You see one day the earth will be taken over not by a human but by evil spirits and their leader Satan who will pretend to be God and he will give you a mark if you and your loved ones take it you will all be goners. But there is hope that hope is Jesus and he loves you and like any father he wants to help you and keep you safe especially from the devil. But I can not force you to believe the choice is ultimately yours have a nice day Shalom Shalom.

[@john.powell645]

Men are seen as inferior? He found earth?

[@adrianaslund8605]

Not throughout most cultures and most of human history. Misogyny and double standards that discriminate against women are incredibly common in almost all cultures historically. Odysseus was constantly worrying about his wife being unfaithful while sleeping around undiscriminately. His desire for control was more important than real morals. Which pissed me off incredibly as a kid and you see that sort of logic everywhere regarding women when just reading human history.

[@ronjon7942]

@@adrianaslund8605ok, kennedy

[@spergicide97]

Planet of the Hapes

[@TheEmpressPalpatine]

Hmmmmm....Was Palpatine wilder than we thought? Anyway, he is mine. She can't have him.

[@islandmaster5064]

I loved the Hapes expanse in the EU

[@rinokumera5907]

Intresting

[@AhsokaFanboy1138]

I never liked Hapes or how much focus they got. I prefer the Mandalorians.

[@slicerneons3300]

Inferior? I guess they never invented arm wrestling.

[@ronjon7942]

Ugh, so gross. The thought of Sidious bumpin' uglies is an image I can't un-see. This must be where he gets mounted and dominated, to recharge his emperor-ness.

[@nathanielrowe812]

Love the EU post ROTJ content!

[@jimmybacon3870]

the herpes cluster herpes battle dragon lol

[@JesseUski]

Gapes walked so Barbie land could run

[@xxxlonewolf49]

So jedi f'ing things up, again...

[@nathanweast4397]

Camilla from Castlevania would have loved Hapes.

[@macwade2755]

This is Canon for me!

[@goldeagle6431]

The Senate loved his women.

[@andrewmaderer1989]

I mean he did have a grand daughter….

[@YusofPillay-qt7xd]

Its allied to the rebel alliance against the emperor

[@bosniencommie1202]

Of cores they liked capitalis republick and fashist empire

[@worldwanderer91]

Feminist paradise planet. Kathleen Kennedy and Harvey Weinstein's former assistant would fit in well.

[@ericchen122]

When are you going to focus on Israel’s genocide of Palestinians instead of feminists?

[@ericchen122]

@@worldwanderer91 When are you going to use that same energy to call out Israel’s genocide in Gaza?

[@delmontgreen2753]

I don’t know why, but I keep mishearing ‘Hapes’ cluster as ‘herpes’ cluster. There is a joke in there somewhere, but whatever.

[@reallybigmistake]

3:20 second life screenshots please no

[@wedgeantillies66]

Think it was case for Sidious, that he left hapes, along as there was no benefit to invading them and gives narrow bottleneck entry points, any invasion would result in years of stalemate. Plus they also both empires had a hatred of Jedi and instituted purges of them in both their respective territories.

[@sklavenfanger]

first matriahy to succeed???

[@teleportedbreadfor3days]

The female Hapes’ initial reasons for having a distaste for men that would weep into what became their culture is actually something very real. In real life, the major reason for women who shift to misandry is having poor experiences with lesser men who struggle with showing respect and/or equality. Legends actually touches on something understandable rather than fabricating or leaving out any reasons for the inequality in Hapes culture that simply don’t resonate, while also opening the door to the potential of positive change.

[@loner8045]

Can you explain more?

[@adrianaslund8605]

Those "lesser men" probably think of themselves as "alpha males" too.

[@DarthVages]

👍

[@gunnargarcia2755]

Zaddy p

[@TheManIn_Black]

Lucasfilm nowadays wants strong women. here you go but you threw it in the bin 👍

[@ericchen122]

When are you going to show the same outrage over Israel’s genocide of Gaza?

[@TheManIn_Black]

@@ericchen122 What does that have to do with this video?

[@TheManIn_Black]

​@@ericchen122lemme answer that for you. Nothing.

[@ericchen122]

@@TheManIn_Black We cannot let the culture wars distract everyone from the real issues.

[@TheManIn_Black]

@@ericchen122 WTF kind of drugs are you on?

[@mot2296]

*sighs* becoming ever more progressive in here. Oh. Well.

[@ronjon7942]

It's a very, very small cluster. The highly visible exception that proves the natural rule.