Why this Arc was Objectively the MOST UNDERRATED of the Clone Wars

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Chapters
0:00 Intro
1:37 Recap: Heroes on Both Sides and Pursuit of Peace
3:14 Galactic Politics
3:52 Heroes and Villains
6:24 What are we Fighting For?
10:17 Outro

[@ArkenTheAmerikan]

Call me biased, because I am, but the politics of the Clone Wars are criminally underappreciated. Both Padmé's speech to the Senate and Palpatine's musings at the end of the episode are absolutely brilliant, some of my favorite parts of the whole show.

[@Dakarai_Knight]

Why are you biased? Are you a political analyst or something like that? Also agreed the politics of the clone wars is extremely underrated.

[@geetslys]

Yes, they are great pieces of Star Wars and are indeed criminally underappreciated

[@ArkenTheAmerikan]

@@Dakarai_Knight May or may not have done a whole ass video on Star Wars prequel politics lol. I lived in that headspace for four long months, so my monkey brain is primed to love stuff related to the subject.

[@shanenolan8252]

I love the political episodes

[@sran438]

@@ArkenTheAmerikan Watched the video. Absolutely brilliant work.

[@goldeagle6431]

The Senate definitely deserved more arcs to himself.

[@geetslys]

The Senate arcs are the best sort of arcs!

[@dalekrenegade2596]

Yeah these and the earlier Mandatory did a job making the politics palatable for the audience, probably helped plant the seed about things like money in American politics and all that crap.

[@SsgtTucker]

I see what you did there lol

[@markthomson1816]

I am the senate!

[@labby2]

When Padmé gave that speech, I got cold chills. It was brilliant.

[@geetslys]

The best speaker in Star Wars

[@labby2]

@@geetslys absolutely.

[@violentscorl697]

When Padmé does anything I get chills. She‘s such an amazing character and a great rolemodel for adolescents, as she‘s as sharp as a knife and can still defend herself quite well, even if she chooses to use words as her means of attack more often than not.

[@DorsenFilm]

Many people sleep on the political episodes. But not me. They are one of the best, and the people that dont appreciate it, dont understand the complexity that star wars can have.

[@kalebthehistorian5928]

Agreed! This Arc was always one of my favorite.

[@geetslys]

I agree. These episodes always add so much more to the Star Wars universe

[@lifevest1]

The RFRN podcast absolutely despised them lol

[@DorsenFilm]

@@lifevest1 i domt know what the RFRN is

[@lifevest1]

@@DorsenFilm Republic Forces Radio Network podcast. They did weekly podcasts after every epiaode

[@XxJokerxX_]

i love that speech as well as at the end when palpatine says “ isnt it remarkable that one can have all the power in the galaxy, but the words of a single senator can sway the thoughts of millions” That hitt

[@clonecoric4140]

A really underrated arc us the Zillo Beast arc, I mean Palpatine almost shat his pants seeing it at his window.

[@geetslys]

Hahahah

[@grandmasteryoda8919]

Its also odd how he didn't get kicked out of power due to that Attack caused by the Zillo beast.

[@kyleschafer6275]

I feel like that was a throw away arc, one that was supposed to get more light later on down the road but it never happened so we have a meh arc that never got more air time then " we will study its scales for future armor"

[@madmoblin]

One of my favourite things ab TCW is we see things go wrong for Palpatine, things he didn’t foresee and had to adapt to. It’s very intriguing

[@minicle426]

The Zillo Beast came this close to changing the future of the Galaxy.

[@Peregrine57]

More important than the speech itself is the moment Padmé actually turns to Tekla and listens to her, and actually asks her what life is like for her and her family back home. Padmé Amidala, Bail Organa, Mina Bonteri, are all archetypes of an ideal politician; well meaning, perhaps, and well-intentioned, despite their position of wealth and privilege, but no less out of touch than any other senator, the self-interested war mongers of the corporate guilds, or any politician you can find in real life. At that moment, she is in despair as the ideal of democracy crumbles around her. But Teckla speaks up, and Padmé takes the moment to be with her, listen to her, asks her to tell her what the people are feeling. and Teckla reminds her, not of the ideal, but of the people the democracy is supposed to be about.

[@hunterkiller1440]

Kid: I want The Clone Wars space politics. Mom: We have space politics at home Home: The Phantom Menace space politics

[@manindya6326]

"If it wasn't for tecla and her children who are we fighting for" One of the best line in television history not only telling us how terrible the clone wars was and also makes you think how unnecessary and brutal the world, cold and civil wars was not only the soldiers but also the common man and women and children caught in the crossfire 😢

[@thecharger98]

You didn’t mention the dialogue between Ahsoka and Lux. After Ahsoka took a blow to her perspective and ego by Meena, Lux gets her to see that they’re both good, normal people, regardless of their affiliations. “Well look at me. Am I so bad?” said Lux. That’s what stands out to me the most about that episode.

[@hellstrom4209]

Yeah. I felt that moment showed Ahsoka that life wasn't so black and white. Not everyone who left the Republic was evil, and some within the Republic weren't all good.

[@Agent_A_Graham]

I took it as Ahsoka also learning that she may not actually agree with the Republic, sowing seeds into her distrust of the Republic and subsequently the current state of the Jedi Order. I mean, didn't this show essentially explain that the Separatists were infiltrated by bad faith actors, making us forget the Separatism itself wasn't wrong? The Republic has been corrupt and proto-fascist before the clone war even started. Look at how easy Palpatine managed to usurp total power by the senate simply handing it to him.

[@justinbowers2749]

I would agree…if the separatists in this episode stills weren’t hypocrites. Mina Bonteri Admires Dooku, you know, the guy who tried to kill he’d supposed friend twice? Or when the Separatist senate make the ridiculous statement that “Corporations don’t rule here” despite the fact that they make up the backbone of the separatist army and navy

[@indianajones4321]

The clone wars: exists Palpatine: The Senate will decide your fate

[@geetslys]

The Senate decides everything lol!

[@horrorfan1455]

Geetslys you should be a Jedi council member for explaining these arcs to us your so wise

[@geetslys]

Thank you. Maybe one day!

[@zexalbrony4799]

Just a council member? Please, with his skill, Geetsly would be the Grand Master himself.

[@jedijournal9159]

Yes. So true. It is indeed an underrated arc.

[@geetslys]

%100

[@neofulcrum5013]

I do wonder what happened to lux. Last he was even mentioned was in the inferno squad book. Maybe he’ll be in the Ashoka series.

[@geetslys]

Yeah, I wonder what happened to him?

[@birch8109]

I hope he is

[@stormsurge2103]

In Canon He joins up with Saw's Partisans and gets assassinated by Inferno Squad.

[@neofulcrum5013]

@@stormsurge2103 he wasn’t assassinated. Iden stunned him.

[@stormsurge2103]

@@neofulcrum5013 I didn't know that, thanks.:)

[@marcinmarszaek3813]

When you take such arcs into consideration, you really wish that Clone Wars really lasted longer than 7 seasons. Not for the epic battles, thrilling enqounters and Obi-Wan's mockery (thou these are obviously irreplaceble), but to delve deeper into the era of the war. I want to see just how much did the Galaxy sufered, how much did the people's like Twi'leks, Pantorans, Rhodians etc. had to overcame to have their lives secured. In my opinion, despite showing us great arcs like the ones mentioned here, it wasn't enought. I'm a sucker for more details and stories like it. Our only hope now is the Bad Bach to fallow this trace .

[@Mael_Str0M]

It was meant to have 8 seasons

[@mistermidnight1823]

I would like to see a prequel series about Asajj Ventress.

[@wrought-ironheroEMIYA]

Ahsoka and Lux's relationship was nice to watch and I like how Anakin guided Ahsoka to not make the same mistakes he did

[@cliffysilver6612]

Honestly we saw the civilized side of the separatist in the clone wars movie, the CIS general (can't remember his name) chose to negotiate with Obi Wan and only turned violent when he realises that Obi Wan is stalling

[@Lego-Joe-1]

This war isn't as black and white as I once thought it was.- Ahsoka Tano.

[@ontasbulent5709]

Palpatine: the Sith were founded in the believe that sentient beings couldn’t be trusted with their freedom. The Wars of old taught us much if you try to take their freedom they resist. Their freedoms had to be surrendered willingly. For now a 1000 years we have been feeding crisis creating war and if history did not cooperate history was changed The Sith have created a galaxy so chaotic that the galaxy would give up its freedom for security. When the time comes then the Sith‘s new galactic order will rise

[@crazysilly2914]

Source?

[@ontasbulent5709]

@@crazysilly2914 it’s a reference to Captain America 2

[@dalekrenegade2596]

@@ontasbulent5709 ✊HAIL HYDRA!!✊

[@queenofdogs01]

@@dalekrenegade2596 *whispers* hail Hydra

[@crocowithaglocko5876]

“The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few”

[@networknomad5600]

Eh, depends on who those "few" are. There are indeed, many cases where the few's needs absolutely outweigh the needs of the many.

[@amanzeihedioha]

What are we fighting for? Why, The Glory of Bullsithry!

[@steelresilience]

Definitely the most underrated arc. I hope TBB shows how the Empire didn't make things better.

[@XxJokerxX_]

You should do Palpatine’s speeches as well of course the important one is in revenge of the sith but i also think when he gets control of that banks that speech rite there sends chills down my spine

[@laisphinto6372]

The complete declaration of the new order is an amazing speech

[@TheTruthIsGonnaHurt]

*The most underrated part of this arc is Teckla.* After Padme gave her speech, we never see Teckla or hear about her ever again. She went back to her crappy life, meanwhile Padme went back to her penthouse suite, with her two droid servants, a security team, and a entourage of handmaidens. She ate the finest foods, drank the best wines from Naboo, and flirted with a Jedi, while watching holos of his victories. All throughout the night Padme was probably getting holocalls from her personal friends and other senators praising her speech. A speech where she used someone else's suffering to her advantage to get more votes and more influence.

[@deficientc4418]

"A speech where she used another person's suffering to her advantage to get more votes and more influence" and you know.. to defeat a Bill that if passed you have made her life even worse

[@TheTruthIsGonnaHurt]

@@deficientc4418 That's not the point. Teckla was employed by Padme. Padme knew of her conditions and could of bettered them out of her own pocket. Instead she didn't, she wanted the people (the people that pay taxes to do it.) Padme paraded around in a life of luxury saying look at all the poor people, the government needs to help them, instead of increasing Teckla's salary as her employer. So many times in life you have ultra elite rich that don't take care of their own people.

[@DorsenFilm]

Yes we did see teckla again. She was in season 6, where she was assasinated. She died.

[@TheTruthIsGonnaHurt]

@@DorsenFilm Ah you’re right. She was used to the very end of her short life as a pawn. Padme and Clovis used her to plant a bomb, and she died in the process, blowing up a power plant. Good job Padme. 👍

[@DorsenFilm]

@@TheTruthIsGonnaHurt i did think it was weird that padme seemed barely fased when she found out she was dead. She was like «oh no. Oh well»

[@BossEvasion]

I particularly loved the speech that Grevious gave to bomb droids, makes you wonder if he always gives these kind of speeches to the droids under him.

[@DC-ru5xz]

There is no enemy there is no victory only boys who lost their lives in the sand - Sabaton, Cliffs of Gallipoli. Not just applicable to the Gallipoli campaign. But every war

[@genghiskhan5701]

The flaw in applying that quote in every conflict is that there are legitimate cases of justified wars, World War 2 being the prime example

[@CassetteDeckPlaylist]

Early enough to still be smelling the blaster fire. >Sips reconstructed bean paste distillations

[@wintersoldier164]

I think this episode teach something that needed those days. Tolerance of different ideology and that if you truly want peace you will extend olive branch

[@zemilkman5450]

Cuts to social services to increase military spending sounds very familiar in American history ahem” Ronald Regan”

[@andrewd5894]

To me this arc was one I didn’t care for as kid but when I did a rewatch before season 7 almost 10 years later these stood out to me.

[@shawngiver5570]

I’ve said it before a house of cards style show based on clone wars politics and maybe a legends new republic one would be epic

[@joshuawells835]

If I recall correctly, there was another episode in this arc, one that came out in Season 2. It shows the bill passing despite opposition and with the deaths of Senators Farr of Rodia and Deechi of Umbara, the later of which caused one of the worst battles of the war.

[@UncleMikeDrop]

It also didn't help that clones and droids were the faces of their respective ranj-and-file armies. Largely aloof populations gave little thought to the regular people just trying to live their lives who were dragged into an ever expanding conflict.

[@mattroxursoul]

War is fought through supply line and logistics. This is what really gave the CIS a major advantage. No need to worry about food supplies and such.

[@lerneanlion]

The home-fronts are more than just producing weapons and vehicles for war, they are also where politics of both sides battled against each other and themselves.

[@94TahoeDude]

This episode is literally what's going on in OUR congress today...voting on pointless spending that will increase the deficit we owe while taking money away from the standard of living... I always had a lot of respect to the unpopular politics in the prequels. But it goes even deeper than that, just like our government, there are corrupt corporatists, self interest bastards overwhelming the few good people in government. I love this episode.

[@MatthewChenault]

I liked both of these episodes. “Heroes on Both Sides” was a subtle nod to one of the influences of the Clone Wars; The American Civil War. After all, the American Civil War was colloquially known as “the war between brothers” and, in a similar vain, there were heroes on both sides. In the second episode, there’s also the influence of the Roman Civil War(s), starting under Julius Caesar. The Civil War(s) of the late Roman Republic mirror what is seen with the suffering and plight of the common citizens in the Clone Wars, since those conflicts, quite literally, bankrupted the Roman Republic and drove it further towards dictatorship and empire. Palpatine is meant to be analogous to the Caesars, both Julius and Augustus. By contrast, Padmé and Bail Organa are meant to be analogous to Cicero who tried his best to work with both sides and try to seek stability and peace. This is what George Lucas does best when it came to the Clone Wars: drawing further upon the basis of the historical material Star Wars drew upon and fleshing out the setting into something more.

[@Agent_A_Graham]

No confederate was a hero.

[@genghiskhan5701]

Difference between Palpatine and the Caesars was that the Caesars were actually competent administrators and didn't built massive money wasting superweapons

[@CloneScavengerVulpin8389]

Little did people know that speech padmè gave unintentionally turned the people against the clones and the jedi. It was part of palpatine's plan to turn the galaxy against the jedi but not the clones.However the clone troops seem to have regained public support after the war ended. I guess palpatine figured it didn't matter because he still won in the end.Until luke and vader defeated him.

[@tristankawatsuma8962]

Damn, I never thought of that. Sure it always annoyed me that nobody including Padme, Bail, Mothma, and Ono never argued the morality of using the clone troopers. Actually, nobody except the clones and Ahsoka ever grappled with that question in the show and in legends only two Jedi and a few Mandalorians addressed it in the Republic Commando series. Shocking to think this speech actually helps out Palpatine. Granted Geetsly makes good points to why people did lose their faith in the Jedi Order, but of course we know all that did in the end was make Palpatine stronger. And of course supporters of Padme and those who are suffering in the war are going to turn against the clone troopers. It’s easier to hate the soldier who is just a common man like you instead of the politician who is at the top. Padme of course is supportive of the clones, but I honestly wonder if she and anybody in the peace faction ever wondered what was going to happen to the clones. At least the Jedi could return to their pre-war state, but the clones were made solely to serve the Republic as a military force. Palpatine would have to be revealed and stopped in the ideal situation, so the position of chancellor will lose power and the senate will fall into pre-war infighting. Nobody except for the few remaining Palpatine supporters will want the GAR and the Navy to exist, heck Kamino may even get kicked out of the Republic. I don’t think that Padme’s supporters would agree with trying to help the clones integrate into civilian life since it was their very creation that made life terrible for them, not to mention nobody likes having foreigners join the nation in a time of recovery since that could mess things up. To be honest, I can imagine the senate, the Jedi, and maybe the Separatists recovering after the war if the latter exists. But the clone troopers and Kamino on the other hand are screwed no matter what. Nobody will want them in our timeline and the alternate one, nobody will like them in our timeline and the alternate one, I say even with Jedi and Senate advocates, the galaxy would never accept the clone troopers, even if the inhibitor chips were removed. They would be the one species along with the Kaminoans who would absolutely never get a happy ending that everybody else gets in the alternate timeline, even if that ending comes years later. They probably would only be able to interact with planets in the Rishi Maze and the Unknown Regions given how unpopular Kamino and its clones will be to both sides.

[@CloneScavengerVulpin8389]

@@tristankawatsuma8962 the clones could find an unpopulated world and build their own settlements but they would need a lot of credits to do that but most wouldn't give.

[@tristankawatsuma8962]

@@CloneScavengerVulpin8389 I suppose their best hope would be to work as mercenaries. It would be the best way for them to bring in money for their new society-assuming they didn't stay on Kamino as a sort of defense force since the planet would be unprotected and is their home. Still, I'm not sure if anybody with money would be willing to do business with the Kaminoans or the clones. Anybody who would take their help would likely be worlds that are too poor to pay for proper and official help.

[@CloneScavengerVulpin8389]

@@tristankawatsuma8962 the hutts might hire them.

[@tristankawatsuma8962]

@@CloneScavengerVulpin8389 One problem: Morality. The Kaminoans would have no issue with working with the Hutt and to be fair the Hutt did have an alliance with the Republic, so some clones may have operated in joint missions with Hutt gangsters. However I doubt the majority of clones are going to like working alongside criminals. Even the Bad Batch, as unorthodox and unique as they are to the rest of the clones, didn't easily slide into their job as being hired guns. Besides, the alliance I mentioned earlier may still stand and if the Republic denounces the clones and Kamino, the Hutts may keep their distance to avoid getting on the bad side of a galactic power.

[@jdpragmatic8644]

Wait, the last episode!? IT FEELS LIKE YESTERDAY THAT YOU GUYS STARTED!!! Keep going guys, analyze the entire show if you can. This show deserves the honor only you can provide.

[@declanhandley-byrne4335]

I watched this arc recently actually, and I forgot how poignant it is

[@keksentdecker]

a visual hint to show who the separatist are or rather strive to be (apart from the usual droids and warmongers) is that the CIS senate is inspired by the british house of commons: a representation of ordinary citizens

[@messengermal5298]

Padme's speech at the end actually brought me to tears. Only this and Fives' death got such a reaction out of me but the difference with this is that I cried because this arc and her speech is something that can be directly correlated with the problems faced in the real world of politics and the way how the common folk are often forgotten in light of the bigger picture.

[@diegoescalona9581]

This series is amazing

[@StonewallTitlow]

Peace Talks: *exist* Villainous Senators: We need an attack. Grievous: *secretly pleased about attacking Coruscant, even if he is doing it in a more terroristic manner*

[@shelbyflores9196]

Still get chills everytime I hear this

[@emagine777]

I remembered and liked all the episodes that you talked about but I watched them because damn your videos are good

[@forresttowns4995]

Mina Bonteri’s story helped me sympathize more with the Separatist people. I will always be thankful to Heroes on Both Sides for that.

[@88DreadGT]

It's down right eerie how these arcs on the politics of the Clone Wars parallels the the real world with all the corruption of governments and war profiteering.

[@jacobberge4643]

Great breakdown. I really enjoyed those episodes

[@markthomson1816]

Padme - the perfect politician that's never existed in our world we get palpatines 24/7

[@madmoblin]

I love how the mega cooperations play both sides, they’re pulling the strings one layer under the Sith and makes the conflict feel more realistic and immoral

[@chaoticclonestudios]

I still love your intro reminds me of battlefront from 2004

[@bobathefett5806]

This was actually one of my favorite arcs.

[@user-fp4ze5yt6s]

Why are all of the underrated episodes my favourites

[@VibrantVioletVisions]

My favorite arc is the mother talzin and nightsister arc

[@ICYoyoLamar]

I'm so glad someone else loves this arc as well. It was so good.

[@jeremy1860]

Clone Wars succeeded in making fans love the politics of Star Wars. That alone makes it a show worthy of praise 😊

[@elisalus7822]

honestly one of my favorites

[@plutoreturns9630]

I really appreciate how much depth these episodes added to Padme's character. We see how much she cares about the people she's representing. It builds well to her line in ROTS, saying to Anakin "Have you ever wondered if we're on the wrong side?" Her death is made all the more tragic when you consider that the peace and democracy she valued so dearly and fought for relentlessly were taken away before her eyes, at the same time as Anakin. Both were taken by one man, Darth Sidious. All this time she strived to end the Clone Wars, Palpatine was pulling the strings and she had no idea. She represents his opposite, morally speaking. Both are Senators, both from Naboo. They have very similar backgrounds, yet one chooses to be one of the most selfless characters in Star Wars, striving for peace and the wellbeing of everyone above all else, and the other chooses to orchestrate a galactic war costing millions of lives so he can rule over a dictatorial new Empire.

[@Lowlyking2001]

You should do a series on the second imperial wars and the Usaang Vong wars.

[@zexalbrony4799]

Huh, I never considered this an underrated story, I always thought it was a very good pair of episodes and thought it was decently remembered by the fans, same with the Racko Hardem arc from season 4. I always thought this episode shed a light on the truth of The Clone Wars that was often overlooked, of course, in our case we usually follow the really good Jedi and Clones against the really bad Seps, so it's understable how this aspect can be overlooked, which would make it very memorable to many and not underrated. At least that's how I've always viewed these pair of season 3 episodes. Of course, in fairness, both this and the Racko Hardem arc are usually overshadowed by the other more well-remembered and impressive arcs from their seasons such as Ventress stuff, Maul's return, Umbara, Mortis, the Citadel, maybe even the Battle of Mon Cala and Kamino too. So these arcs usually aren't the first talked about, but I'd call that more being overshadowed, then downright forgotten and underrated. Stuff like Ahsoka's lost Lightsaber or Season 1 episode Trespass are more in the category of underrated and forgotten stories than this arc and the Racko Hardem one. Also, I'd argue there were a large number of heroes on the front lines, but given the size and scale of the war with like billions fighting across the galaxy, even if the heroes numbered in the thousands your assessment of most of the heroes not fighting on the frontlines would still be accurate. Also, also, I'm pretty sure it was only a select group of the villains on both sides(mostly the ones in the Republic) that got to win in the end, as many villains for the Separatists and probably even a few for the Republic were killed by the end of the war after they served their purpose like Dooku, Grevious, the Separatist Council and so on. Heck, even though Anakin survived and was technically on the winning side after what happened to him, I'm pretty sure he doesn't count it as a win. So really the only true winners were Palpatine and the select few still integral for his plans with the Empire, so the likes of Mas Amedda, Sly Moore, Sate Prestige, Tarkin, and so on.

[@AllyGirl-hg2sb]

You mean big head, tall hat, and bird man. The muun Lott dod and senator Saam

[@Anonymoususer44569]

526 people: *absolute Chads* 1 person: “In terms of brain, I have no brain”

[@shanenolan8252]

I always thought that padme assistant tekla was talking about corusant not naboo . She lives in the capital with padme . I believe naboo was an energy provider. Naboo plasma . Maintaining corusant would be more difficult with its population.

[@raspas219]

It is arc like this who turn the serie so good.

[@TheRoomforImprovement]

“Isn’t it remarkable that one can have all the power in the galaxy and yet the words of a single senator can sway the thoughts of billions?”

[@MrProp16]

It's definitely one of most important arcs

[@zachattack1279]

Political episodes are the reason why Star wars the clone wars 2008 will always be better than anything Disney ever tries to put out Edit: yes this does include the bad batch it ended up being more of a rebels prequel than a clone wars sequel the only way that it can truly redeem itself is for season 2 to go more in depth on the politics of the empire to show how truly evil fascism really is as apparently the fact that fascism is evil is no longer a prevailing universal idea

[@goodmind4940]

we already know fascism is evil, I rather them show grey sides of the Empire, canon Empire is already more cartoonishly evil than EU Empire

[@BiggerBossN313]

I wanna see stormtrooper stopping legitimate criminals or slavers

[@zachattack1279]

@@goodmind4940 sorry I didn't reply to you for over a year but the thing is is that I did a poor job of explaining what I was trying to say the main problem isn't that knowing fascism is evil it's recognizing fascism when it starts to rear its ugly head as what is going on in the United States currently for example scotus recently considered (I don't know if they've approved it yet) the idea that companies can sue striking workers for "lost profits" that is straight up slavery or maybe more accurately indentured servitude. This also means that unions are completely not that they were that useful ever since the 1930s since most unions don't have teeth anymore as in they don't f"blaster shot"ing do anything. And that is the exact reason why I'm more for revolution then unionization however that becomes more and more unrealistic everyday the more than military grows also the moment we become an actual threat they'll just bomb or nuke us.

[@annavg.9976]

Totally agree

[@liamshaughnessy6246]

Love this tv show and video !

[@Obiwan7100]

"The Senate is key of all" George Lucas,2005

[@rafavizuetecastro]

Padmé's speech was the best ever.

[@bacondorito]

Not Senate Murders? S2e15 was also a part and the conclusion of this arc

[@guido_chiancone]

I know that this isn’t the main point of the arc, but I like how it introduces Lux to Ahsoka. I find it interesting how our main Jedi within the show all have some sort of encounter with attachment. Anakin and Padmé obviously, Obi-Wan and Satine, and Ahsoka and Lux. It’s interesting to see how each Jedi has their own complicated situation with attachment that certainly forces them to reconsider their loyalties. This is without a doubt intentional, as Dave was probably just trying to show that the greatest Jedi have room in their hearts for love. Not just Jedi beliefs and misunderstandings.

[@iang257]

I swear I've seen this similar title so many times.

[@sheevpalpatine2128]

Im the hero that was on both sides

[@lifevest1]

Who else thought when first watching this episode that Palpatine was breaking the 4th wall with his “we must let the wheels of the senate.. turn” monologue?

[@McAttack21574]

I vote we have a series on the bases or IRL inspiration for Star Wars

[@warbandofnephilim6609]

What if we're the bad guys? - The Senate

[@SpaceMonkeyBoi]

I really enjoy the politics of Star Wars.

[@soaptj]

This was my favourite arc in the clone wars.

[@mattska13]

If only the people could unite ✊

[@jordanhendrix2619]

Remember that time C-3PO used R2-D2 as a weapon to kill space-Hitler?

[@justinenulam]

10:05 Phrasing!

[@mazrimazri6101]

i wish clone wars was more than 7 seasons it was supposed to be 10 i think they should of kept milking it they could of made 15 to 30 seasons

[@michaelandreipalon359]

1:07: *spit-takes* Aww, how is this the end of this nice series? Please do a second season of this. Must admit, this arc probably ensured Padme's expendability to Palpatine as a whole. Also, anyone catch the subtle "Take That" joke involving Halle Burtoni's (the Kaminoan who helped create the spending bill) name? (Why am I hearing Mission Vao during that speech? My ears are just that good at noticing familiar voices.) 10:06: Did they? Regardless on whether you're continuing with Legends or the Alt-universe, wars never end in the galaxy, and believe me, some of the hardened actions of the warmongers are actually justifiable, especially if we take the Legends universe's Yuuzhan Vong into account... you can acquire peace and stability for some years, but the price would be far worser strife by the time it's all spent.

[@tarikshell9719]

The separatus and the Republic should have came to terms that they all work together to better themselves but like with all wars it's the people who suffer on both sides

[@koalasandwich567]

This episode arc captures American politics in forty minutes, faster and more through than any news report.

[@michaelarmstrong9722]

Clone Wars is GOAT

[@nicholasiacono5227]

Bullsith almost made my OJ come out of my nose, gotta stop watching geetsley when I eat breakfast 😂 as Akbar would say “it’s a trap!”

[@MBP1918]

It was quite a good arc

[@eddierudolph8702]

Very interesting take on that arc and I don't disagree with your explanation of it's underlining message. When I first watched it, my thoughts were why is the government having to supply electricity instead of a private utility company. However, now that doesn't matter the taxes resulting from that spending bill could have caused the same problems.

[@genghiskhan5701]

Papa Palps was intentionally nationalizing key industries and why megacorps were intentionally pushed to the opposing side. People forget fascists are called third positionists for a reason and equally hate private businesses and the free market as the commies.

[@Obiwan7100]

Doubt which species is smarter Arkanians or Siniteens?

[@millieboon]

I did always enjoy the episodes with lux abs ahsoka

[@laisphinto6372]

I wanted more of this more good separatist but the clone wars did only a very tiny bit

[@anthonyschlessman1848]

Imagine trying to explain how this are is good entertainment

[@subhansanaky]

I think star wars Politics it's potrays so amazing but allso scary. Because if we see in our world ( 1 planet) politics will (usually) always end in empty promises. And many thing become more horrible because people can get 1 voice for something for greater good. Because everyone think they had their own thing to worried about. That just 1 Planet 😂 with same kind (Human). i can't even imagine scale of politics in star wars with that many planet in galaxy 😂 and with different species ( Sorry for my english still learning)

[@silverfoxdelta290]

i love how i only understand most of the political and diplomatic episodes now, as an adult, and realize how important they were for the story and world building. as a kid, i mostly just preferred the big, front line battles.

[@g.williams2047]

Those suicide bomber droids are the best part of the episodes.

[@mikkelnpetersen]

I prefer episodes that focused on the senate, civilian life and the clones, instead of the jedi and sith.