Gege Drops a Nobara Bombshell at JJK Exhibition

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@ManganimistYT
@ManganimistYT 3 ай бұрын
What do you think? Is it fully Nobarover? Discord: discord.gg/manganimist Twitter: twitter.com/manganimist
@Plog_VR
@Plog_VR 3 ай бұрын
Nah
@UltimateRed-bj7mo
@UltimateRed-bj7mo 3 ай бұрын
I don't mind the idea of her dying, but this whole process has been really jarring. I'm already not a huge fan of how her "death" happened, but then minutes later a new character is introduced with the CT to save her life, specifically mentions that she may pull through, get no direct answer on the outcome, then no characters in story acknowledge her absence (except Yuji, like twice), and then in an interview years later, not the story itself, she's semi-confirmed/implied dead? I don't blame anyone for hoping she may return, her "death" is weird as hell.
@thatoldwasabi
@thatoldwasabi 3 ай бұрын
Ye
@CamiloLopez-zg1tf
@CamiloLopez-zg1tf 3 ай бұрын
Not at all
@pandajaeger3079
@pandajaeger3079 3 ай бұрын
@@ManganimistYT yeah I was on the side that thought she was dead maybe comeback maybe but never really thought she would
@cornbread9512
@cornbread9512 3 ай бұрын
Yuji as the mc makes a lot more sense over megumi. He served as sort of an in world perspective of being thrown into the world of sorcery and as a way to introduce us the audience to everything.
@naufalmEZa
@naufalmEZa 3 ай бұрын
Yes, even ce residue being explained by Nanamin made sense & hid the exposition quite well. Yuji's curiousity made things interesting.
@bigboy2217
@bigboy2217 3 ай бұрын
He fulfills the sort of boring exposition elements which I actually find uninteresting. I like it more when things are organically communicated than with a character who knows nothing just being told things. But some people like this style and the MC does typically do it. The best part about Yuji is he’s a great heel to sukuna. Specifically he is a representative of common sense ethics, and the antagonists of the series are constantly displaying the weakness of those beliefs leading to him being punished time and time again and being forced to adapt. It’s a great narrative dynamic that propels development.
@entropy404
@entropy404 3 ай бұрын
So he DOES regret Tsumiki's character being essentially wasted, that was always one the most jarring parts of the story to me.
@hakiDsupreme
@hakiDsupreme 3 ай бұрын
What i learned from this .... Gege changes his mind a lot. So anything can still happen
@AshutoshSingh-wg5km
@AshutoshSingh-wg5km 3 ай бұрын
Lol
@naut7560
@naut7560 3 ай бұрын
Gege just seems like the type to keep everybody in the dark about nobara just to tell us now just to mess with us
@kevinescobar370
@kevinescobar370 3 ай бұрын
And he’d still look at us like “hm? Yall say something?”
@chrissolace
@chrissolace 3 ай бұрын
Or maybe he assumed he made it clear Nobara was dead and then people had hope so he released it this way?
@youngop
@youngop 3 ай бұрын
@@chrissolaceexactly, he was like you guys watched her die. Did I need to spell it out 😂
@draskopopovic9543
@draskopopovic9543 3 ай бұрын
​@@youngopyea but one of the characters also said there is a chance she survives
@ididsomeunspeakablethingsa4899
@ididsomeunspeakablethingsa4899 3 ай бұрын
​@@draskopopovic9543a chance can also be a zero you mfs didn't listen to math class
@Guzmaralhos
@Guzmaralhos 3 ай бұрын
"Planned to draw a camellia flower but gojo lost so he ended up with another flower" i guess gege is rolling some d20s on that shit
@agedmilk
@agedmilk 3 ай бұрын
Bro rolled a 1 💀
@AntiZubat
@AntiZubat 2 ай бұрын
@@agedmilknah bro rolled a 20 (he gets to whatever he wants)
@ovozeador
@ovozeador 3 ай бұрын
I like the discussions of Nobara's death including Gege saying that Arata could save her if he did the right procedure completely ignoring that Arata is a Kyoto student not named Todo
@timtam4596
@timtam4596 3 ай бұрын
Kyoto students are never gonna live down simply being at the level one would expect of students instead of surpassing 90% of the jujutsu world like the Tokyo students
@turtley8581
@turtley8581 3 ай бұрын
i still cant believe he went into the arc fully knowing that nobara would die, revealed arata as a character for the literal first time just to have him say he *might* have saved nobara, and then having neither him or nobara have any significant conclusion in the rest of the series lmao
@timtam4596
@timtam4596 3 ай бұрын
@@turtley8581 See this is what makes me think we'll still get a Nobara revival. Him saying Nobara died in Shibuya is nothing new, we already know she wasn't breathing and had no pulse when the technique was applied. But I really doubt he made Arata and his technique just to patch up Yuji, considering battle damage has rarely slowed him down before. It really doesn't make sense for him to leave things so open just to confirm her death a short time later in the most vague and unceremonious way possible. I think people are putting too much weight behind his statement
@giovalladares1022
@giovalladares1022 3 ай бұрын
@@timtam4596Gege peaked and declined as a writer already. If Nobara is truly dead for good then it’s another example of garbage writing on his part. He rushed the ending way too much.
@Lacobi-o6n
@Lacobi-o6n 3 ай бұрын
​@@turtley8581gege is awesome dude, hes just toying with everyone, boutta hit us with "btw the bad guy wins lmao"
@zero-cm2yh
@zero-cm2yh 3 ай бұрын
Even gege thought megumi was boring 😭
@salesmon7871
@salesmon7871 3 ай бұрын
Bum from day 1
@bmoreblondie6301
@bmoreblondie6301 3 ай бұрын
Poor poor megumi he can't catch a break
@SlamBamTyMaam
@SlamBamTyMaam 3 ай бұрын
My brother in Sukuna you WROTE THE CHARACTER!!
@lain5858
@lain5858 3 ай бұрын
@@salesmon7871 Why a bum?
@lain5858
@lain5858 3 ай бұрын
@@zero-cm2yh By this logic everyone should hate Gojo.
@Limit02
@Limit02 3 ай бұрын
Seeing Gege talk about parts of the story he wasn’t happy with his execution of is really cool, usually don’t get to here that from mangaka
@Limit02
@Limit02 3 ай бұрын
Makes sense why, bad business sense to dog on your own work when it’s a multimillion dollar IP, but still, it’s cool
@firestarsantos7467
@firestarsantos7467 3 ай бұрын
It does happen a lot, but mostly post mortem. Togashi apologized for Yu Yu Hakushos lack luster ending, Araki stated some disatisfactions in his jojonium interviews( like he created Gyro due to feeling that he wasted both Zeppelis from part 1 and 2, the whole Fugo situation, saying that Hol horses emperor was really overpowered) among other examples, but Gege does stand out for doing them mid-publication, while the other were after it was set and done( I know jojo is still in publication, but Araki has only discussed original universe and barely no new universe comments).
@YetiCoolBrother
@YetiCoolBrother 3 ай бұрын
We already knew GeGe preferred Maki over Nobara. Its like he made Nobara to channel Sakura-energy and then got bored with the idea.
@lain5858
@lain5858 3 ай бұрын
*GeGe preffer Toji. Maki is just to remenber him
@rafanadalmexicanonoexiste1565
@rafanadalmexicanonoexiste1565 3 ай бұрын
Honestly I prefer Nobara over Sakura without a doubt. I find Sakura to be too annoying at times.
@kerroseir4764
@kerroseir4764 3 ай бұрын
Bruh but I loved nobara (I do sadly heavily dislike Maki because she became a toji clone and lost what little character she had. She has no goals or plans just wants power to get back at her clan and even after doing it jjk society hasn't changed she hasn't done anything and it's sad she could've gone beyond toji but she just became him, no she became worse than him)
@hiromitsukanzuki9137
@hiromitsukanzuki9137 3 ай бұрын
@@kerroseir4764 Maki became worse than Toji? How so?
@DefaultMii
@DefaultMii 3 ай бұрын
@@kerroseir4764 I do think it kind of ties to the themes of the story because gojo killed his higher ups too
@vexodus6176
@vexodus6176 3 ай бұрын
“Because characters who don’t make the reader sad, don’t need to die.” THIS JUST CONFIRMS HE DOES THIS TO TORTURE US! GEGE WHEN I CATCH YOU GEGE!!!!
@OK-fo5tm
@OK-fo5tm 3 ай бұрын
Alternate title: Gege traumatizing his audience for fun
@DanEvil6666
@DanEvil6666 3 ай бұрын
For the 79th time
@sulauniverse909at6
@sulauniverse909at6 3 ай бұрын
Thats what I am saying 😭
@HansWalter-z6c
@HansWalter-z6c 3 ай бұрын
Kashimo with a electric sycthe would have been dope
@Numberonehater274
@Numberonehater274 3 ай бұрын
I fw it
@juiceboxinc.2745
@juiceboxinc.2745 3 ай бұрын
@@Numberonehater274ong
@theonesnowpeep
@theonesnowpeep 3 ай бұрын
Mf ain't beating the farmer allegations
@pspsmallz
@pspsmallz 3 ай бұрын
Staff makes more sense for his power but the scythe would have made the farmer memes actually funny 😂
@TerminallyOnTheGrind
@TerminallyOnTheGrind 3 ай бұрын
No matter what Gege says the cope will NEVER die
@MC.CHEESY456
@MC.CHEESY456 3 ай бұрын
I still want nobara back 😭😭
@williamhogrider4136
@williamhogrider4136 3 ай бұрын
@@MC.CHEESY456 me too 😭😭
@capravian2947
@capravian2947 3 ай бұрын
‘’A MANS COPIUM, WILL NEVER DIE’’ -Marshall D. Teach
@MrKhalsaman
@MrKhalsaman 3 ай бұрын
I don’t get the big deal about the nobara thing, it just says that he was planning to have nobara and nanami depart before he wrote the actual shibuya arc. So he was planning to remove them from the story at some point in the story but not necessarily permanently, fakeout deaths are a popular trope after all, even lord of the rings had it with Gandalf, so it would still make sense for gege just meaning that he was planning to do that with nobara from an early stage. Yes this is copium
@joyboy2016
@joyboy2016 3 ай бұрын
​@MrKhalsaman nah not copium you right still believing nobara coming back just like todo springed out of nowhere to fight sukuna. gaygay just says he departed nobara from the story at the time doesn't mean permanently removed plus her coming back isnt all that asspull and does have logical explanations
@allmost9326
@allmost9326 3 ай бұрын
Nobara: "Throughout heaven and earth I alone am the forgotten one by gege"
@__Babaaaa
@__Babaaaa 3 ай бұрын
“ If they’re boring, they ain’t dying “ - Gege, kinda. Oh my god my boys Hakari and Yuta are toast… 😩
@chrono2208
@chrono2208 3 ай бұрын
Nah making hakari stall for this long just to kill him is dirty💀
@blazingshadow2669
@blazingshadow2669 3 ай бұрын
Megumi survives then
@Goofy_gremlin
@Goofy_gremlin 3 ай бұрын
Uraume genuinely tweaking after hakari gets a jackpot for the 376th time:
@johncrowley3322
@johncrowley3322 2 ай бұрын
Yuta is borin as sh1t
@sweezxo
@sweezxo 3 ай бұрын
Not buying nobaras death until we see a body, I’m holding out every chapter to hear an unexpected “resonance”
@ramdomsamz2406
@ramdomsamz2406 3 ай бұрын
we have actually, check chapter 126 and tell me if that looks like a living person
@oreos2653
@oreos2653 3 ай бұрын
@@ramdomsamz2406reverse cursed technique really did save me there
@ClareAmel
@ClareAmel 3 ай бұрын
@@ramdomsamz2406When I’m in an annoying person competition and my opponent is ramdomsamz2406 😱
@kevinescobar370
@kevinescobar370 3 ай бұрын
@@ramdomsamz2406my god your copium has spread to your very EYES!!! OH THE HUNANITY HE’LL NEVER READ JJK NORMAL AGAIN!
@mawillix2018
@mawillix2018 3 ай бұрын
@@kevinescobar370 ...
@thekbot1155
@thekbot1155 3 ай бұрын
Went from reaping lives with a scythe to reaping wheat. Kashimo was truly always destined to be the Farming one
@danwoods8195
@danwoods8195 3 ай бұрын
lol kasimo was a farmer serial killer originally? makes total sense lmao.
@dondahighhh12
@dondahighhh12 3 ай бұрын
i mean he is kinda
@garfieldbutswagger4967
@garfieldbutswagger4967 3 ай бұрын
well some farmers do use scythes for farming bunch of crops at once so yeah, could've worked. Serial killer? i dunnoh maybe just a plain old farmer
@morablaze486
@morablaze486 3 ай бұрын
@@garfieldbutswagger4967I mean there wasn’t any forensics during ancient Japan nor in any civilization as far as I know so a serial killer could get away with a lot of murdering back then up until the 1970s
@BeingOfEvil0
@BeingOfEvil0 3 ай бұрын
​@@morablaze486 the farmers even tried to gang up on old Kashimo but he extreme diff them 😞😞😞
@anon3118
@anon3118 3 ай бұрын
Bro got tired of that shit.
@elvvs8154
@elvvs8154 3 ай бұрын
It’s never Nobraover🙏
@5sonarghost
@5sonarghost 2 ай бұрын
NEVER!!!!
@Setsuriru
@Setsuriru 3 ай бұрын
Gege is a hell spawn
@mangomixgaming9166
@mangomixgaming9166 3 ай бұрын
No Gege is
@renatobregu
@renatobregu 3 ай бұрын
Sukuna🐐❤️
@traplegend5065
@traplegend5065 3 ай бұрын
Yuki being a vessel for kenjaku would have been great to be fair, since Yuki felt like she was gone so fast also would be another instance of hot kenjaku
@firstdw
@firstdw 3 ай бұрын
wouldnt be fair tbh with us knowing the extents of yukis power her domain HAD to be broken that on top of barrierless would have been no joke
@noblehero4182
@noblehero4182 3 ай бұрын
@@firstdwjust like the over powered Sukuna? Lol
@kevinescobar370
@kevinescobar370 3 ай бұрын
I think it’d have been cool if kenjaku had a binding vow that allowing his to swap to another vessel while still being able to control his last vessel for some time that way we could have yuta killing geto’s body only to find his head empty and reveal that yuki is his new vessel ( if you wanna screw over yuki more you could give her limited access to the ten shadows since as far as we know it’s just a rare ability rather than having a ‘there can be only one’ rule like the six eyes and limitless
@HabitualThinker
@HabitualThinker 3 ай бұрын
⁠@@firstdwjust like the completely fair matchup of everyone else and sukuna??? lmao
@__Babaaaa
@__Babaaaa 3 ай бұрын
@@traplegend5065 Kenny as Yuki would be *WILD* Yuki : “ What’s your type? “ Yuji : “ Tall girls with big a- “ Yuki : “ *Blondies with stitches* gotcha, you look like your Dad - Wyd later? ☺️😏 “
@MichaelChukwu-y8i
@MichaelChukwu-y8i 3 ай бұрын
Megumi such a bum,he lost his main character status 💀
@lain5858
@lain5858 3 ай бұрын
Please keep hating on Megumi. Then he will survive and be fine in the ending like Mei Mei
@REXae86
@REXae86 3 ай бұрын
Useless man still taking L’s throughout the summer. GOT TO LOVE IT
@Ilikeanime972
@Ilikeanime972 3 ай бұрын
So did yuta😂
@seru_phius
@seru_phius 3 ай бұрын
@@Ilikeanime972I wouldn’t say lost. More like, under new management.
@Mari-sg2pp
@Mari-sg2pp 3 ай бұрын
​​@@Ilikeanime972 yuji is not useful either, yuta still has a story and was the mc of the story, yuji sucks, he should suffer more, even the author wanted to kill him off when sukunna ripped his heart out and introduce yuta as the mc he just couldn't because the series was getting so popular.
@aishahjones2713
@aishahjones2713 3 ай бұрын
The Mei Mei statement about her not needing to die because no one would be sad has confirmed what I and others have been saying for years Gege doesn’t kill of characters for the sake enriching the story or the characters, no he does it to troll the audience first and foremost and everything else later.
@BBCHashira
@BBCHashira 3 ай бұрын
Nobara comin back would've been so cool since her CT is in a way the most "curse-like" CT out there compared to the rest of the cast, seeing how it would've evolved would've been sick
@leoki4804
@leoki4804 3 ай бұрын
Seriously agree with you. Her CT would have been perfect in the current story as the Soul is the main point in the battles now, she was ahead of the rest and honestly would have made a difference in the battle.
@bleflar9183
@bleflar9183 3 ай бұрын
Since Resonance targets the soul, she could hurt Sukuna without hurting Megumi.
@RazorBladezX
@RazorBladezX 3 ай бұрын
He probably knew this and was like nah too obvious
@pspsmallz
@pspsmallz 3 ай бұрын
Her ct would have been too strong since it counters all the main villains in some way. She would have been strong if she ever improved it. Probably one of the reasons he wrote her out besides just originally not even wanting a main trio.
@spectaa3138
@spectaa3138 3 ай бұрын
Don't take the thing he said about nobara too literally, he wouldn't drop anything so important and definitive in a fucking interview.
@exoシ
@exoシ 3 ай бұрын
saw nobara and I immediately clicked
@Cyclonee.1
@Cyclonee.1 3 ай бұрын
Real
@david-rf7tf
@david-rf7tf 3 ай бұрын
i think thats what mahito did too
@m.v.j6804
@m.v.j6804 3 ай бұрын
@@david-rf7tf Why am I laughing at this
@kevinescobar370
@kevinescobar370 3 ай бұрын
@@david-rf7tfEMOTIONAL DAMAGE!!!
@garfieldbutswagger4967
@garfieldbutswagger4967 3 ай бұрын
@@david-rf7tf NAH BRO THATS TOO GOOD
@coreythepeanut
@coreythepeanut 3 ай бұрын
Gege has GOT to be rolling dice during the writing for these fights
@thatoldwasabi
@thatoldwasabi 3 ай бұрын
Its a bad day to be a Nobara supremist 😔
@TheMikeBailey18
@TheMikeBailey18 3 ай бұрын
I like how Gege speaks on his own writing like it’s not him😂
@TheMikeBailey18
@TheMikeBailey18 2 ай бұрын
@@JojiLegend I write daily dh
@drenchedinsyrupp6059
@drenchedinsyrupp6059 3 ай бұрын
MY SOLDIERS DENY MY SOLDIERS THEORIZE MY SOLDIERS COOOOOOOOOOPE
@arcanerune9134
@arcanerune9134 3 ай бұрын
I think what Gege means by Gojo lost is the writer phenomenon of characters taking on their own lives. Its a weird thing that happens where if you have spent enough time with a character, you kinda go on autopilot, and the words just fall onto the page for them. You are not even aware of what you are writing at the time. The ideas just fall onto the page, and you only discover what you wrote when you read it back.
@peeled-lemon
@peeled-lemon 3 ай бұрын
2:56 gege truly is a curse
@WanderingMendicant-qd7mv
@WanderingMendicant-qd7mv 3 ай бұрын
Megumi originally being the mc comes as a surprise to no one.
@st.altair4936
@st.altair4936 3 ай бұрын
Nobara glazers in shambles rn 💀 Edit after chapter 267: I have made a severe and continuous lapse in my judgment, and I don't expect to be forgiven. I'm simply here to apologize.
@agedmilk
@agedmilk 3 ай бұрын
coping rn bro 😭 im in shambles
@Bimgusthebased
@Bimgusthebased 3 ай бұрын
We're cooked dawg, there's no hope left.
@indusharma229
@indusharma229 3 ай бұрын
A MAN'S COPE NEVER DIES
@drenchedinsyrupp6059
@drenchedinsyrupp6059 3 ай бұрын
AS LONG AS THERE IS DELUSION, THERE IS HOPE.
@richogarden
@richogarden 3 ай бұрын
Me😢😢
@madmike022
@madmike022 3 ай бұрын
Ngl it's pretty entertaining finding a story where not even the author knows where it's going, I just hope I get my boy Gojo back
@eyeofthebeholder_
@eyeofthebeholder_ 3 ай бұрын
rip nobara. You deserved better.
@Hateful_
@Hateful_ 3 ай бұрын
Megumi was set up for failure since day 1 😭🤣
@drenchedinsyrupp6059
@drenchedinsyrupp6059 3 ай бұрын
whole series started bc the guy couldn't stand on business 😭😭
@sleshstamp
@sleshstamp 3 ай бұрын
At least he admitted to his faults as a writer and was honest about it.
@Drackmord92
@Drackmord92 3 ай бұрын
There is a world where Gege genuinely thought that the way Yuji asked about Nobara and after receiving silence says "I get it" was a good enough confirmation, and therefore now commented on it like it was something said and done.
@jmb47kkamikaze80
@jmb47kkamikaze80 3 ай бұрын
Even GEGE got tired of Megumi trying to spam Mahoraga 🤣🤣🤣on weak opponentes
@thesevendeadlysins578
@thesevendeadlysins578 3 ай бұрын
Megumi even tried summoning in episode 1. Lol
@nataliawashington872
@nataliawashington872 3 ай бұрын
@@thesevendeadlysins578that was against Sukuna that doesn’t count
@josecriollo6976
@josecriollo6976 3 ай бұрын
​@@nataliawashington872mf was about to summon mahoraga on todo
@MrSarcasticGaming
@MrSarcasticGaming 3 ай бұрын
I had already heard Nobara was confirmed dead in an interview, gege mentioned it before I STG
@CamiloLopez-zg1tf
@CamiloLopez-zg1tf 3 ай бұрын
Not quite, he said she was dead (clinically), but he also said Nitta could save her since she was barely dead, which is not a confirmation at all. Then megumi "confirmed" in the most ambigous way that she died, but the Weekly Shonen Jump released a list with the characters and their current state during the culling games arc, Mai, Nanami, Yaga, etc. were stated dead, but Nobara was mentioned as injured. I feel like there's only two explanations for those words, it's either taken out of context or he regretted leaving the door open and refused to develop that idea, which I consider stupid, he's a great writer and that's not something a great writer would do
@renatobregu
@renatobregu 3 ай бұрын
⁠@@CamiloLopez-zg1tfHe makes mistakes, I too think he’s a great writer, and I’m not criticising here cus I’m a Gojo fan, (love Sukuna) but it doesn’t feel like he’s lying here, I feel he considers his treatment of Nobara a bit of a mistake and would just like to move on. I don’t think he’s THAT much of a troll to bring her back after dropping this. Shame imo cus I wanted to see her developed more, but the story is ending soon so it makes sense she’s dead
@selfportrait8363
@selfportrait8363 3 ай бұрын
​@@CamiloLopez-zg1tfhe's not a great writer. He's got obvious flaws in his writings, he leaves important characters out of the story without explanation and reintroduces them unceremoniously, the obvious example being todo. But he's great at writing logic and ins and outs of technical details.
@CamiloLopez-zg1tf
@CamiloLopez-zg1tf 3 ай бұрын
@@renatobregu First of all, Gege lies all the time, he states every year that the manga is gonna end soon but it never ends. The thing is that now that I think about it, I feel like people are just taking the word depart out of context, technically she DID die in Shibuya and he even explained it a while ago. The thing is that he also said she could be revived as I said, so even if he's not wrong by saying she died as Nanami in Shibuya, she still had a chance to make it through and that hasn't been explained. Also, even if the story feels like it's ending, it's not, there's still room for a lot.
@TheManBehindtheFunny
@TheManBehindtheFunny 3 ай бұрын
​@@selfportrait8363 That's why I was thinking Nobara would come back, actually. BECAUSE of Todo. Like, if we're able to throw out literally everyone that has shown up even a little in the series, even characters who were firmly set up to be now out of commission (Todo), Nobara should logically have a shot too since she was never explicitly said to be dead in the source.
@adeadsxciety
@adeadsxciety 3 ай бұрын
i hate that yuji robbed us of a mc that had an actual goal, i don’t need him to want to be the strongest, but at least strive to do something of purpose other than what the plot demands, L decision on gege’s behalf IMO
@nataliawashington872
@nataliawashington872 3 ай бұрын
You mean Megumi wanting to save his sister?
@adeadsxciety
@adeadsxciety 3 ай бұрын
@@nataliawashington872 yes precisely, he knew what he wanted and didn’t need to be the world’s strongest sorcerer to the thing he wanted to do most, just because megumi doesn’t have the coolest fight scenes doesn’t make him a bad character in the slightest
@Sierpham
@Sierpham 3 ай бұрын
Yuji does have a goals he wants to kill sukuna and get rid of all curses
@curranstuddard5839
@curranstuddard5839 3 ай бұрын
If Gojo can’t come back then Nobara wouldn’t either. Gege is evil
@lain5858
@lain5858 3 ай бұрын
I would preffer Gojo than Nobara though
@StrayTato
@StrayTato 3 ай бұрын
Don't like how Gege made her death so ambiguous and open-ended.
@goobeeeer
@goobeeeer 3 ай бұрын
​@@StrayTatomahito blew a chunk of her face off, by the time the healing mf had arrived mahito was already done fucking around with yuji, a wound that serious would have needed to be paused on the SPOT, which it wasn't, even the guy himself says "she could live but it's an infinitesimal small chance, please don't blame me if she doesn't come out of this."
@shuaty
@shuaty 3 ай бұрын
@@goobeeeer I think one big issue is that when Mahito touched Nanami, a Grade 1 sorcerer, he literally exploded on screen. When he touched a Grade 3 Sorcererer (Nobara) directly on the head, only a small segment of her face blew off and it wasnt even facing the viewer. Then we no longer see her on screen but then Arata shows up with his ability saying he potentially stopped her wounds from growing. So honestly I think the simple lack of detail involved in her death implies her status is ambiguous.
@bigbosses4686
@bigbosses4686 3 ай бұрын
@@shuatyKnowing Mahito, his sick ass probably did that on purpose so Yuji could watch the light go out in her eyes.
@xochipilli9435
@xochipilli9435 3 ай бұрын
It isn’t that random the last times she’s mentioned is when Yuji asks Megumi about her and Megumi doesn’t say anything with him saying “I get it”. The next time she was brought up was when Yuji talked about Hana and him not being comfortable with the idea that’s she’s replaced Nobara, so going from that to Hana replacing Nobara to me it seemed clear that she was dead. And it’s been years since with nothing else.
@RemyEFrancis
@RemyEFrancis 3 ай бұрын
Gege just doesn't care about Nobara like that
@DakotaMcElroy
@DakotaMcElroy 3 ай бұрын
Gonna be honest, I'm quickly becoming less and less interested in JJK as a whole with a lot of information that is completely vague in the manga (with hopes to get answers later on) only for these questions to be answered outside of it. Just seems a bit disappointing.
@RedLights9000-f3l
@RedLights9000-f3l 3 ай бұрын
If I remember correctly in a cover page you there was mahito playing with 3 puppets and they were like nanami jumbei and nobara
@gerharddamm5933
@gerharddamm5933 3 ай бұрын
Honestly, Nobara’s death , yuki ‘s wasted potential and Tsumiki’s lack of backstory are probably the 3 most egregious examples of Gege just doing plain bad writing. And I say this as someone who loves JJK
@IppoX90
@IppoX90 2 ай бұрын
Thank God I don't care about those three, so they're not minus examples in my book.
@its_ecalire
@its_ecalire 2 ай бұрын
I hate how the author is playing with his characters, "I don’t really care about him/her, I just wanted to make him look like *****" LIKE JUST SHUT UP AND GIVE TO ALL YOUR CHARACTERS A ROLE IN YOUR MANGA💀
@IppoX90
@IppoX90 2 ай бұрын
@@its_ecalire Well, he's free to do what he wants with them after all. I personally agree with that line of thinking and would probably do the same.
@its_ecalire
@its_ecalire 2 ай бұрын
@@IppoX90 the problem is that he is doing nothing with them, or he just use them for 2 chapters and then he throws them away
@Sumble
@Sumble 2 ай бұрын
It seems to me he didn't really develop the female characters as much, apart from Maki but I didn't really like what happened to her character. Nobara had so much potential with her cursed technique! She just wasn't experienced enough
@ChromiumDome411
@ChromiumDome411 3 ай бұрын
I’m surprised there wasn’t a statue of Gojo built like a Greek God just randomly submitted by an anonymous user in there.
@nataliawashington872
@nataliawashington872 3 ай бұрын
I mean there were memorial shrines in Gojo’s memory in Japan, so I wouldn’t be surprised if someone was currently building a statue of Gojo😂
@frogartti
@frogartti 3 ай бұрын
I feel like Gege already revealed that Nobara wasn’t coming back. People just didn’t accept it.
@sojourner4726
@sojourner4726 3 ай бұрын
I trust nothing until the story is finished.
@flwutershyzzz
@flwutershyzzz 3 ай бұрын
we should all love meimei as much as gojo so that gege thinks she “impacts” us and kills her off
@divadiva1968
@divadiva1968 3 ай бұрын
Shes a bad b**ch, only care about herself, nobody love character like her. At least i love her design and found her personality is relatable sometimes
@RodhiShartedHarded
@RodhiShartedHarded 3 ай бұрын
bruh gege wanted to kill yuji so badly
@divadiva1968
@divadiva1968 3 ай бұрын
Spread the hate then he wont kill yuuji
@acekingxiii2496
@acekingxiii2496 Ай бұрын
Looking back, gege said something along the lines of departing from nobara in shibuya. Depart means to leave as if for a journey, not kill. They left nobara to recover in shibuya, then continued the journey onwards towards the culling games. Yuji doesnt know the details of their plans so in his Domain Expansion, he very much believed Nobara was dead. We'll see who else can possibly make their return.
@just0_
@just0_ 3 ай бұрын
What Gege said doesn't necessarily mean Nobara's dead. Emphasis on the word "departed". It could very well mean dead, as is the case with Nanami, but it could just as well mean gone from the story, which, for all intents and purposes, she'll most likely be, even if she is alive. At this point in the story her only shot of showing up again would be in the epilogue (if there's gonna be one) or at the very earliest after the battle against Sukuna is over, since if she were to participate she'd just be dead weight. So yeah, maybe it's a translation matter, but I wouldn't say it's completely Nobarover quite yet.
@aba7968
@aba7968 3 ай бұрын
Her showing up in the end is just more disrespectful and makes no sense to make readers wonder about her status for that. Like you're telling me all this ambiguity is... for a panel with her in the epilogue ? I think Gege should've just decided what he really wanted to do with Nobara from shibuya, the fact it took him this long to drop such a bombshell is comical.
@theobscene1654
@theobscene1654 3 ай бұрын
I wouldnt say dead weight. I replied to someone else about this but this was the important part as far as your comment is concerned. Let Yugo/Gota fail the current purple, set up another, Sukuna bragging bullshit, SUDDENLY SPIKES (Mahito fight callback), flashback sequence where the hell she has been culminating with her resonance attack thru Yuji.
@ovozeador
@ovozeador 3 ай бұрын
​@@aba7968 I think her status as dead could be assumed as early as in Hana's introduction in the culling games, when Itadori says he's afraid that she could replace Nobara, why would he say that if Nobara was alive?
@aba7968
@aba7968 3 ай бұрын
@@ovozeador I mean the panel with Megumi can imply she's dead depending on your interpretation but that not the point, he gave her an out to survive through Nitta so the most feasible way to handle it is to outright confirm it.
@HabitualThinker
@HabitualThinker 3 ай бұрын
She’s dead, man.
@BonnibelBonifaceXIII
@BonnibelBonifaceXIII 3 ай бұрын
When Gege says "can't use the flower that symbolizes rebirth", I think they mean it like this - Yuta taking over Gojo's body is not technically a rebirth, because it's not Gojo's consciousness himself coming back to life. If after Yuta's 5 minutes are up then Gojo's mind takes over the body, THAT would be a rebirth - he was actually, properly dead, then came back - as opposed to something like having his body piloted like a mecha by a pilot who didn't read the instruction manual first. Basically - I don't think after the 5 minutes that Gojo will come back - because Gege probably would've had the foresight to use the rebirth flower to hint that he'd die and come back... So maybe Yuta's stuck in Gojo's body forever, the body flops over dead, or Kenjaku takes over for a nice plot-twist.
@boberlito4433
@boberlito4433 3 ай бұрын
I’m living in shibuya rn studying abroad. I’ll try and get in there and get some 4k images and send them over to those who want them lol.
@raec5426
@raec5426 3 ай бұрын
These translation notes said Nobara and Nanami "departed" which doesn't necessarily have to mean death. We know at least for sure in the case of Nanami it is. Later in the translation notes it says the sorcerers from Geto's cult in Shibuya "died". The word died could have been used for the part with Nobara like it was with other characters but it wasn't. Just something noticeable.
@JMandJJ7797
@JMandJJ7797 3 ай бұрын
You mean those two randos died to the freaking meteor lmao. Or are we talking about the girls that Sukuna killed.
@raec5426
@raec5426 3 ай бұрын
@@JMandJJ7797 The people in Jogo vs Sukuna
@JMandJJ7797
@JMandJJ7797 3 ай бұрын
@@raec5426 RIP those bozos.
@jamescarballo7248
@jamescarballo7248 2 ай бұрын
RIP Nobara and Nanami😢
@rajaryan-fe1oy
@rajaryan-fe1oy 3 ай бұрын
Nah he's trolling (smokes cope in the corner)
@ajwaddanwarr3409
@ajwaddanwarr3409 3 ай бұрын
This really sucks, what a terrible way to learn Nobara is dead. Honestly my enjoyment of JJK has been diminishing with each new chapter and yet I am sticking to it cause I wanna know how it all ends.
@Yuuji-ES
@Yuuji-ES 3 ай бұрын
to learn? she had a part of her brain blown off, wdym
@HylianHanzou
@HylianHanzou 3 ай бұрын
Nobara being dead was never uncertain, it was literally seen in panels and later implied by everyone when Yuji asked. The only reason no one said anything would be because Nobara wanted to pay Yuji back for not telling anything when he came back, but to be honest there would not be much to add to the current story if she does come back, so it doesn't makes too much sense if she is alive.
@Wickery.
@Wickery. 3 ай бұрын
Nobara is still alive lil bro
@CoolOkay_
@CoolOkay_ 3 ай бұрын
I don't think she'd add nothing tbh, she'd be more of a morale boost for Yuji I think. Also, she'd definitely be able to abuse the hell out of the fact that Sukuna's limbs are being laid out all over the battlefield each time he's cut up. Third, to say it wasn't vague is kinda a lie, Megumi gave Yuji the same reaction that he'd give if he asked about his sister or something.
@CamiloLopez-zg1tf
@CamiloLopez-zg1tf 3 ай бұрын
First of all, it IS uncertain, Gege said she was dead but then said she could be saved it Nitta did the right procedure, then about the "confirmation" from Megumi, it is so ambigous it has many valid interpretations, and a few chapters later the Weekly Shonen Jump published a list with the characters current status during the Culling games arc, Nanami, Yaga, Mai, etc were stated dead, Nobara wasn't, she was mentioned as injured. That's NOT CERTAIN. Also, if she comes back she can actually have a big impact in the fight, with resonance she can do what Yuji's been doing so far and even from distance, combine that with Todo's Boogie Woogie, she would make Sukuna go crazy. Plus, I'm sure that if she comes back, Megumi would have a VERY GOOD reason to fight again, he wouldn't want her friend to die again.
@p3wter0
@p3wter0 3 ай бұрын
​@@Wickery.Clapped by eye disease 🙏
@user-fg3dz5kv7q
@user-fg3dz5kv7q 3 ай бұрын
It was always uncertain and to claim otherwise is absurd
@mclekfkeiwdisidido6858
@mclekfkeiwdisidido6858 3 ай бұрын
Potential man out here potentialing before his debut
@MB-eh2kp
@MB-eh2kp 3 ай бұрын
Megumi really had the potential to be the MC 💀
@MrBlueski93
@MrBlueski93 3 ай бұрын
I wish Megumi was the protagonist and Yuji gives off kuwabara vibes I could have got behind that
@dirtmouth6861
@dirtmouth6861 3 ай бұрын
id really like you to cover the whole exhibit when its all out and available!! im really curious about what they put up (need to see close ups of the higurama stuff and my GOAT choso) and would also really like your thoughts and opinions on all of the exhibit!
@hell.yeah-
@hell.yeah- 3 ай бұрын
gege already pointed out nobara being dead after shibuya but people misinterpreted the panel
@DiceMan20
@DiceMan20 3 ай бұрын
The Cope is whispering in my ear that its only to make Nobara's return more of a surprise That damn cope.
@somethingsomewhere66
@somethingsomewhere66 3 ай бұрын
The fact that it took the writer to literally spill it out directly and there are still people coping is absurd
@CodeMilkMan
@CodeMilkMan 3 ай бұрын
Megumi knew he wouldve been the bum from the start thank god he got sidelined
@lain5858
@lain5858 3 ай бұрын
How Megumi was a bum?
@NamelessDragon21
@NamelessDragon21 3 ай бұрын
Once a bum always a bum
@mr.bakonator3900
@mr.bakonator3900 3 ай бұрын
yall just hop on the hate train
@lain5858
@lain5858 3 ай бұрын
@@mr.bakonator3900 Let them be. I hope Gege see this then keep Megumi alive and happy in the end like Mei Mei
@Ungrounded-jay
@Ungrounded-jay 3 ай бұрын
@@NamelessDragon21 writer's fault
@GoldenAngelX5
@GoldenAngelX5 3 ай бұрын
I think the flower bit just meant he wanted to use a certain flower but because of the because of the way he had already written the story the meanings would contrast
@hiruyow8073
@hiruyow8073 3 ай бұрын
If you are going to think about it, these statement are all "what ifs" thoughts of gege. I will stil cling to the idea that nobara is still alive knowing how its 100% vague it was back in the chapter that the person who carried her body gave them 50/50 chance she might live.
@Yuuji-ES
@Yuuji-ES 3 ай бұрын
the fuck are you on? what 50/50? he said its an extremely small chance????? Also his ability is to stop wounds from getting worse so idk how that would help with some of ur brain exploding
@sf936
@sf936 2 ай бұрын
I still have hope for Nobara, not to return to the fight but at least having made it out alive by the epilogue
@Shredow2
@Shredow2 3 ай бұрын
As far as I'm concerned, it changes nothing about whether she's dead or not. We still don't know. All he said is that he decided to have her "depart" in the Shibuya arc. And that's what she did, she left the story. That doesn't mean she's dead and that doesn't mean she can't come back, just that she was intended to leave the story at that point. Does that mean she's alive, then? Not necessarily, either. But Gege has gone out of his way to be vague about it and he's still being vague about it here unless the translation is just wrong. I won't believe she's 100% dead until somebody in the story says it, we see a grave, or Gege directly confirms it himself.
@erenja3ger871
@erenja3ger871 3 ай бұрын
It means a lot actually. He didn't just say "depart". He said depart with Nanami. Meaning we should see her gone similar to how we see Nanami gone lol. He has confirmed it. You are just disregarding nuances of language for your agenda. You the kind of guy who needs characters to say something specific the story is pointing towards when it should already gotten from context
@Shredow2
@Shredow2 3 ай бұрын
@@erenja3ger871 yeah depart with Nanami because they both left the story at the same time. There’s not much more nuance than that other than what you’re assuming yourself. And you seem to be the type of guy to assume something is set in stone when it isn’t. Then again, it’s what I expect from an attack on Titan fan. Very mediocre manga, with very low level manga readers as fans. Sad!
@Pomho1812
@Pomho1812 3 ай бұрын
​​@@erenja3ger871the word depart was used for both Nanami and Nobara but the term die was used for the Geto's sorcerer during Jogo/Sukuna meteor sequence. I think Gege here is telling that he knew beforehand Nobara and Nanami would be out of the story by the end of Shibuya, no matter how they're removed from it.
@MasterNabber
@MasterNabber 3 ай бұрын
I think it's time to stop coping.
@Shredow2
@Shredow2 3 ай бұрын
@@MasterNabber I think it’s time to use your brain. Big ask from a JJK fan, I know.
@peterzeppeli2563
@peterzeppeli2563 3 ай бұрын
It aint over till its over ZEEEEUUUSS RETURN NOBARA TO THE STORY AND MY SOUL IS YOOUURSSSSS
@Yuuji-ES
@Yuuji-ES 3 ай бұрын
its Ares
@peterzeppeli2563
@peterzeppeli2563 3 ай бұрын
@@Yuuji-ES I know but you know how bad it gotta be to be begging Zeus
@dabonethug
@dabonethug 3 ай бұрын
4:37 this was my exact reaction, like dude tryna act like he was watching the fight as it went on😭
@user-ds5fb8kx1o
@user-ds5fb8kx1o 3 ай бұрын
Is it that her death was vague or fans decided to make their own reasons for her to not be dead. I mean we watched her die and saw her final moments play out as she faded.
@stevenclarkremando8550
@stevenclarkremando8550 3 ай бұрын
Tournament arc culling game could've been soo good
@richogarden
@richogarden 3 ай бұрын
I am still choosing to believe in Nobara's glorious return 😢 At least now I know why Mei mei is alive, Gege is truly killing anyone who is dear to fans' hearts
@_Retkon
@_Retkon 3 ай бұрын
i still dont understand how people thought nobara was alive, there was literally a page where yuji asked what happened and then got all sad when he was given silence, implying she was 100% dead.
@JohnPerry27
@JohnPerry27 2 ай бұрын
Because instead of crying or even looking a little bit downtrodden, Yuji perks up and yells "I know what this means!" If he actually reacted to anyone's death in that manner, especially Nobara, that would put him above Sukuna and Kenjaku in terms of pure evil.
@_Retkon
@_Retkon 2 ай бұрын
@@JohnPerry27 he straight up clenches his fist and is looking down when he yells. mf was NOT perked up or hyped about that shit at all its just choso hit the subject change fast as hell and they didnt really have time to dwell on things considering the position they were in.
@JohnPerry27
@JohnPerry27 Ай бұрын
​@@_RetkonI swear I usually don't do this, but how do you like them apples?
@_Retkon
@_Retkon Ай бұрын
@@JohnPerry27 is what it is, at the end of the day at least i was never a gojo coper. or for any character besides todo for that matter
@mreverything7056
@mreverything7056 3 ай бұрын
I think there's something to be said about how fumbled Nobara's death was by Gege. People are treating a fucking QnA like Nobara's actual death scene instead of what was meant to be her death. I don't know if he's lying and planned to bring her back, or if he just thought seeing her without an eye would be good enough.
@vintage_dev
@vintage_dev 3 ай бұрын
Come back Kugisaki
@DoggyMoon
@DoggyMoon 3 ай бұрын
So Gege is basically admitting to bad writing at points in the story? Okay that is nice but he’s still a monster
@NO-zb3fz
@NO-zb3fz 3 ай бұрын
Top 3 comments hating on megumi instead of actually having a discussion. Fandom is cooked.
@lain5858
@lain5858 3 ай бұрын
This is good. Means Megumi will be safe and happy in the ending like Mei Mei 😂
@NO-zb3fz
@NO-zb3fz 3 ай бұрын
@@lain5858 Ik you're joking, but that might fr become true. The megumi hate is no joke WORSE than even meimei's was at her peak. Megumi dying would unironically make most of the fandom happy if anything.
@lain5858
@lain5858 3 ай бұрын
@@NO-zb3fz I am not joking. If gege see how the english and latino fandom hates Megumi (he is top 3 fan favorite in Japan btw) he WILL definitely give the happiest ending to this boy. That's Why I want Gege to notice this hate bandweagon here in the west side.
@thekamotodragon
@thekamotodragon 3 ай бұрын
@@NO-zb3fz ...except in Japan, where Megs is still a top 3 character lol. They really like him for some reason...and guess which are the only fans Gege actually listens to? That's right, it's the Japanese ones. Megumi is a certified bum tho, that's not a subjective opinion, it's just a fact, regardless of what they say.
@NO-zb3fz
@NO-zb3fz 3 ай бұрын
@@thekamotodragon Do you have a reason for megumi being a bum(Plz don't say the stereotypical stupid shit. Megumi does infact have bum behavior, but most arguments are utter garbage.)
@ominarous
@ominarous 3 ай бұрын
it does depend on *exactly* what he said. If he intended to "end her life" in this arc, or if he intended to "remove her from the story (temporarily?)" in this arc. What he said could have very well been a bit more ambiguous
@Juicymoosie
@Juicymoosie 3 ай бұрын
If Nobora dies then that means only Yuji will survive, that also means megumi is also going to die but how will his death happen?
@pootispow3232
@pootispow3232 3 ай бұрын
It's pretty obvious.
@coppershortsword8544
@coppershortsword8544 3 ай бұрын
remember when Sukuna ripped Yuji's heart and then he died? yeah, that's how Megumi dies, even if Sukuna is in his Heian form, once he dies Megumi's body will most likely be completely broken.
@richogarden
@richogarden 3 ай бұрын
It's between Yuji and Megumi then. But I think that Gege might kill them both just for funsies
@Patatasforthewin
@Patatasforthewin 3 ай бұрын
Nobara’s coming back in the next few chapter mark my words it wouldn’t change anything but at this point gege has no option
@InShibuya
@InShibuya 3 ай бұрын
Gege continues to be my favourite mangaka!
@YuusukeTakeru
@YuusukeTakeru 3 ай бұрын
-Naoya💀
@Josh-mm4iw
@Josh-mm4iw 3 ай бұрын
I feel like nobara having her life flash before her death scene is what solidified her as dying for me. It seemed like everyone who experienced that were definitively dead
@_Chxco_
@_Chxco_ 3 ай бұрын
Megumi wants to die but apparently he got lots of hate and might not get killed like Mei Mei bcs of that💀
@richogarden
@richogarden 3 ай бұрын
No one hates Megumi according to the popularity list (from japanese fans) , it's just Western edgelords
@nataliawashington872
@nataliawashington872 3 ай бұрын
@@richogardendidn’t it say 1. Megumi, 2. Yuji, 3. Gojo? Which was honestly surprising? I expected Megumi to be top 3, top 5 AT LEAST! But I didn’t expect him to be #1
@nader4823
@nader4823 3 ай бұрын
NOBARA IS NOT DEAD. SHES NOT DEAD. GEGE WOULDNT DO THAT TO ME. HE WOULDNT DO THAT TO US. GEGE GAVE US CHARLES FUCKING BERNARD HE WOULD NOT DO THAT TO US
@BrandonLung
@BrandonLung 3 ай бұрын
WHAT IF KENNY RESPAWNED IN NOBARA'S CORPSE
@WRInprint
@WRInprint 3 ай бұрын
y would he nobara is a bad host
@ShyGuyGuyGuyGuyGuyGuyGuyGuyGuy
@ShyGuyGuyGuyGuyGuyGuyGuyGuyGuy 3 ай бұрын
Manga spoilers Yuta made Rika devour Kenjakus body after he killed him, so that he could use his CT (Cursed Technique) on Gojo to fight Sukuna.
@pieloloon
@pieloloon 3 ай бұрын
The only way this would happen is if rika somehow pooped kenjaku out and he just waddled away without a body 😭
@BrandonLung
@BrandonLung 3 ай бұрын
@@ShyGuyGuyGuyGuyGuyGuyGuyGuyGuy but what if he had a contingency plan? Knowing him, he likely does
@samuelisaacdelacruzaguiler2489
@samuelisaacdelacruzaguiler2489 3 ай бұрын
​@@BrandonLungThe only contingency plan he had was for Sukuna to devour Tengen.
@eclergt9926
@eclergt9926 3 ай бұрын
This makes me quite sad, besides her intresting CT, I would always enjoy her scenes with Yuji, even more when they fought together. I know there isn't much space for her in the story, but I do feel she was killed too early.
@dantens2010
@dantens2010 3 ай бұрын
I’ve been saying it for years that it was ambiguous. She’s fucking dead 😂Nobara is fucking dead and has been dead
@rezz__emiya5948
@rezz__emiya5948 3 ай бұрын
People who want nobara back didn't read the manga I will die on that hill
@inturnetavatar
@inturnetavatar 3 ай бұрын
I don’t understand how anyone reads this and doesn’t put Gege on fraud watch or a least bring him up on charges. As much as it hurts me to say this, Gege is basically tryna lazily justify/retcon his bad writing. That’s why he’s casually doing this Nobara shit. He just didn’t know what else to do with her.
@minillama9625
@minillama9625 3 ай бұрын
Shouldn’t gege like redo culling games? And some characters?
@Grillz001
@Grillz001 3 ай бұрын
If gege didn't know what to do with megumi and tsumiki why did he even bother including them in the story
@thekamotodragon
@thekamotodragon 3 ай бұрын
Wait... Geto's hot assistant died? To JoGoat's meteor? Damn...
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