What do you think? Is it fully Nobarover? Discord: discord.gg/manganimist Twitter: twitter.com/manganimist
@Plog_VR3 ай бұрын
Nah
@UltimateRed-bj7mo3 ай бұрын
I don't mind the idea of her dying, but this whole process has been really jarring. I'm already not a huge fan of how her "death" happened, but then minutes later a new character is introduced with the CT to save her life, specifically mentions that she may pull through, get no direct answer on the outcome, then no characters in story acknowledge her absence (except Yuji, like twice), and then in an interview years later, not the story itself, she's semi-confirmed/implied dead? I don't blame anyone for hoping she may return, her "death" is weird as hell.
@thatoldwasabi3 ай бұрын
Ye
@CamiloLopez-zg1tf3 ай бұрын
Not at all
@pandajaeger30793 ай бұрын
@@ManganimistYT yeah I was on the side that thought she was dead maybe comeback maybe but never really thought she would
@cornbread95123 ай бұрын
Yuji as the mc makes a lot more sense over megumi. He served as sort of an in world perspective of being thrown into the world of sorcery and as a way to introduce us the audience to everything.
@naufalmEZa3 ай бұрын
Yes, even ce residue being explained by Nanamin made sense & hid the exposition quite well. Yuji's curiousity made things interesting.
@bigboy22173 ай бұрын
He fulfills the sort of boring exposition elements which I actually find uninteresting. I like it more when things are organically communicated than with a character who knows nothing just being told things. But some people like this style and the MC does typically do it. The best part about Yuji is he’s a great heel to sukuna. Specifically he is a representative of common sense ethics, and the antagonists of the series are constantly displaying the weakness of those beliefs leading to him being punished time and time again and being forced to adapt. It’s a great narrative dynamic that propels development.
@entropy4043 ай бұрын
So he DOES regret Tsumiki's character being essentially wasted, that was always one the most jarring parts of the story to me.
@hakiDsupreme3 ай бұрын
What i learned from this .... Gege changes his mind a lot. So anything can still happen
@AshutoshSingh-wg5km3 ай бұрын
Lol
@naut75603 ай бұрын
Gege just seems like the type to keep everybody in the dark about nobara just to tell us now just to mess with us
@kevinescobar3703 ай бұрын
And he’d still look at us like “hm? Yall say something?”
@chrissolace3 ай бұрын
Or maybe he assumed he made it clear Nobara was dead and then people had hope so he released it this way?
@youngop3 ай бұрын
@@chrissolaceexactly, he was like you guys watched her die. Did I need to spell it out 😂
@draskopopovic95433 ай бұрын
@@youngopyea but one of the characters also said there is a chance she survives
@ididsomeunspeakablethingsa48993 ай бұрын
@@draskopopovic9543a chance can also be a zero you mfs didn't listen to math class
@Guzmaralhos3 ай бұрын
"Planned to draw a camellia flower but gojo lost so he ended up with another flower" i guess gege is rolling some d20s on that shit
@agedmilk3 ай бұрын
Bro rolled a 1 💀
@AntiZubat2 ай бұрын
@@agedmilknah bro rolled a 20 (he gets to whatever he wants)
@ovozeador3 ай бұрын
I like the discussions of Nobara's death including Gege saying that Arata could save her if he did the right procedure completely ignoring that Arata is a Kyoto student not named Todo
@timtam45963 ай бұрын
Kyoto students are never gonna live down simply being at the level one would expect of students instead of surpassing 90% of the jujutsu world like the Tokyo students
@turtley85813 ай бұрын
i still cant believe he went into the arc fully knowing that nobara would die, revealed arata as a character for the literal first time just to have him say he *might* have saved nobara, and then having neither him or nobara have any significant conclusion in the rest of the series lmao
@timtam45963 ай бұрын
@@turtley8581 See this is what makes me think we'll still get a Nobara revival. Him saying Nobara died in Shibuya is nothing new, we already know she wasn't breathing and had no pulse when the technique was applied. But I really doubt he made Arata and his technique just to patch up Yuji, considering battle damage has rarely slowed him down before. It really doesn't make sense for him to leave things so open just to confirm her death a short time later in the most vague and unceremonious way possible. I think people are putting too much weight behind his statement
@giovalladares10223 ай бұрын
@@timtam4596Gege peaked and declined as a writer already. If Nobara is truly dead for good then it’s another example of garbage writing on his part. He rushed the ending way too much.
@Lacobi-o6n3 ай бұрын
@@turtley8581gege is awesome dude, hes just toying with everyone, boutta hit us with "btw the bad guy wins lmao"
@zero-cm2yh3 ай бұрын
Even gege thought megumi was boring 😭
@salesmon78713 ай бұрын
Bum from day 1
@bmoreblondie63013 ай бұрын
Poor poor megumi he can't catch a break
@SlamBamTyMaam3 ай бұрын
My brother in Sukuna you WROTE THE CHARACTER!!
@lain58583 ай бұрын
@@salesmon7871 Why a bum?
@lain58583 ай бұрын
@@zero-cm2yh By this logic everyone should hate Gojo.
@Limit023 ай бұрын
Seeing Gege talk about parts of the story he wasn’t happy with his execution of is really cool, usually don’t get to here that from mangaka
@Limit023 ай бұрын
Makes sense why, bad business sense to dog on your own work when it’s a multimillion dollar IP, but still, it’s cool
@firestarsantos74673 ай бұрын
It does happen a lot, but mostly post mortem. Togashi apologized for Yu Yu Hakushos lack luster ending, Araki stated some disatisfactions in his jojonium interviews( like he created Gyro due to feeling that he wasted both Zeppelis from part 1 and 2, the whole Fugo situation, saying that Hol horses emperor was really overpowered) among other examples, but Gege does stand out for doing them mid-publication, while the other were after it was set and done( I know jojo is still in publication, but Araki has only discussed original universe and barely no new universe comments).
@YetiCoolBrother3 ай бұрын
We already knew GeGe preferred Maki over Nobara. Its like he made Nobara to channel Sakura-energy and then got bored with the idea.
@lain58583 ай бұрын
*GeGe preffer Toji. Maki is just to remenber him
@rafanadalmexicanonoexiste15653 ай бұрын
Honestly I prefer Nobara over Sakura without a doubt. I find Sakura to be too annoying at times.
@kerroseir47643 ай бұрын
Bruh but I loved nobara (I do sadly heavily dislike Maki because she became a toji clone and lost what little character she had. She has no goals or plans just wants power to get back at her clan and even after doing it jjk society hasn't changed she hasn't done anything and it's sad she could've gone beyond toji but she just became him, no she became worse than him)
@hiromitsukanzuki91373 ай бұрын
@@kerroseir4764 Maki became worse than Toji? How so?
@DefaultMii3 ай бұрын
@@kerroseir4764 I do think it kind of ties to the themes of the story because gojo killed his higher ups too
@vexodus61763 ай бұрын
“Because characters who don’t make the reader sad, don’t need to die.” THIS JUST CONFIRMS HE DOES THIS TO TORTURE US! GEGE WHEN I CATCH YOU GEGE!!!!
@OK-fo5tm3 ай бұрын
Alternate title: Gege traumatizing his audience for fun
@DanEvil66663 ай бұрын
For the 79th time
@sulauniverse909at63 ай бұрын
Thats what I am saying 😭
@HansWalter-z6c3 ай бұрын
Kashimo with a electric sycthe would have been dope
@Numberonehater2743 ай бұрын
I fw it
@juiceboxinc.27453 ай бұрын
@@Numberonehater274ong
@theonesnowpeep3 ай бұрын
Mf ain't beating the farmer allegations
@pspsmallz3 ай бұрын
Staff makes more sense for his power but the scythe would have made the farmer memes actually funny 😂
@TerminallyOnTheGrind3 ай бұрын
No matter what Gege says the cope will NEVER die
@MC.CHEESY4563 ай бұрын
I still want nobara back 😭😭
@williamhogrider41363 ай бұрын
@@MC.CHEESY456 me too 😭😭
@capravian29473 ай бұрын
‘’A MANS COPIUM, WILL NEVER DIE’’ -Marshall D. Teach
@MrKhalsaman3 ай бұрын
I don’t get the big deal about the nobara thing, it just says that he was planning to have nobara and nanami depart before he wrote the actual shibuya arc. So he was planning to remove them from the story at some point in the story but not necessarily permanently, fakeout deaths are a popular trope after all, even lord of the rings had it with Gandalf, so it would still make sense for gege just meaning that he was planning to do that with nobara from an early stage. Yes this is copium
@joyboy20163 ай бұрын
@MrKhalsaman nah not copium you right still believing nobara coming back just like todo springed out of nowhere to fight sukuna. gaygay just says he departed nobara from the story at the time doesn't mean permanently removed plus her coming back isnt all that asspull and does have logical explanations
@allmost93263 ай бұрын
Nobara: "Throughout heaven and earth I alone am the forgotten one by gege"
@__Babaaaa3 ай бұрын
“ If they’re boring, they ain’t dying “ - Gege, kinda. Oh my god my boys Hakari and Yuta are toast… 😩
@chrono22083 ай бұрын
Nah making hakari stall for this long just to kill him is dirty💀
@blazingshadow26693 ай бұрын
Megumi survives then
@Goofy_gremlin3 ай бұрын
Uraume genuinely tweaking after hakari gets a jackpot for the 376th time:
@johncrowley33222 ай бұрын
Yuta is borin as sh1t
@sweezxo3 ай бұрын
Not buying nobaras death until we see a body, I’m holding out every chapter to hear an unexpected “resonance”
@ramdomsamz24063 ай бұрын
we have actually, check chapter 126 and tell me if that looks like a living person
@oreos26533 ай бұрын
@@ramdomsamz2406reverse cursed technique really did save me there
@ClareAmel3 ай бұрын
@@ramdomsamz2406When I’m in an annoying person competition and my opponent is ramdomsamz2406 😱
@kevinescobar3703 ай бұрын
@@ramdomsamz2406my god your copium has spread to your very EYES!!! OH THE HUNANITY HE’LL NEVER READ JJK NORMAL AGAIN!
@mawillix20183 ай бұрын
@@kevinescobar370 ...
@thekbot11553 ай бұрын
Went from reaping lives with a scythe to reaping wheat. Kashimo was truly always destined to be the Farming one
@danwoods81953 ай бұрын
lol kasimo was a farmer serial killer originally? makes total sense lmao.
@dondahighhh123 ай бұрын
i mean he is kinda
@garfieldbutswagger49673 ай бұрын
well some farmers do use scythes for farming bunch of crops at once so yeah, could've worked. Serial killer? i dunnoh maybe just a plain old farmer
@morablaze4863 ай бұрын
@@garfieldbutswagger4967I mean there wasn’t any forensics during ancient Japan nor in any civilization as far as I know so a serial killer could get away with a lot of murdering back then up until the 1970s
@BeingOfEvil03 ай бұрын
@@morablaze486 the farmers even tried to gang up on old Kashimo but he extreme diff them 😞😞😞
@anon31183 ай бұрын
Bro got tired of that shit.
@elvvs81543 ай бұрын
It’s never Nobraover🙏
@5sonarghost2 ай бұрын
NEVER!!!!
@Setsuriru3 ай бұрын
Gege is a hell spawn
@mangomixgaming91663 ай бұрын
No Gege is
@renatobregu3 ай бұрын
Sukuna🐐❤️
@traplegend50653 ай бұрын
Yuki being a vessel for kenjaku would have been great to be fair, since Yuki felt like she was gone so fast also would be another instance of hot kenjaku
@firstdw3 ай бұрын
wouldnt be fair tbh with us knowing the extents of yukis power her domain HAD to be broken that on top of barrierless would have been no joke
@noblehero41823 ай бұрын
@@firstdwjust like the over powered Sukuna? Lol
@kevinescobar3703 ай бұрын
I think it’d have been cool if kenjaku had a binding vow that allowing his to swap to another vessel while still being able to control his last vessel for some time that way we could have yuta killing geto’s body only to find his head empty and reveal that yuki is his new vessel ( if you wanna screw over yuki more you could give her limited access to the ten shadows since as far as we know it’s just a rare ability rather than having a ‘there can be only one’ rule like the six eyes and limitless
@HabitualThinker3 ай бұрын
@@firstdwjust like the completely fair matchup of everyone else and sukuna??? lmao
@__Babaaaa3 ай бұрын
@@traplegend5065 Kenny as Yuki would be *WILD* Yuki : “ What’s your type? “ Yuji : “ Tall girls with big a- “ Yuki : “ *Blondies with stitches* gotcha, you look like your Dad - Wyd later? ☺️😏 “
@MichaelChukwu-y8i3 ай бұрын
Megumi such a bum,he lost his main character status 💀
@lain58583 ай бұрын
Please keep hating on Megumi. Then he will survive and be fine in the ending like Mei Mei
@REXae863 ай бұрын
Useless man still taking L’s throughout the summer. GOT TO LOVE IT
@Ilikeanime9723 ай бұрын
So did yuta😂
@seru_phius3 ай бұрын
@@Ilikeanime972I wouldn’t say lost. More like, under new management.
@Mari-sg2pp3 ай бұрын
@@Ilikeanime972 yuji is not useful either, yuta still has a story and was the mc of the story, yuji sucks, he should suffer more, even the author wanted to kill him off when sukunna ripped his heart out and introduce yuta as the mc he just couldn't because the series was getting so popular.
@aishahjones27133 ай бұрын
The Mei Mei statement about her not needing to die because no one would be sad has confirmed what I and others have been saying for years Gege doesn’t kill of characters for the sake enriching the story or the characters, no he does it to troll the audience first and foremost and everything else later.
@BBCHashira3 ай бұрын
Nobara comin back would've been so cool since her CT is in a way the most "curse-like" CT out there compared to the rest of the cast, seeing how it would've evolved would've been sick
@leoki48043 ай бұрын
Seriously agree with you. Her CT would have been perfect in the current story as the Soul is the main point in the battles now, she was ahead of the rest and honestly would have made a difference in the battle.
@bleflar91833 ай бұрын
Since Resonance targets the soul, she could hurt Sukuna without hurting Megumi.
@RazorBladezX3 ай бұрын
He probably knew this and was like nah too obvious
@pspsmallz3 ай бұрын
Her ct would have been too strong since it counters all the main villains in some way. She would have been strong if she ever improved it. Probably one of the reasons he wrote her out besides just originally not even wanting a main trio.
@spectaa31383 ай бұрын
Don't take the thing he said about nobara too literally, he wouldn't drop anything so important and definitive in a fucking interview.
@exoシ3 ай бұрын
saw nobara and I immediately clicked
@Cyclonee.13 ай бұрын
Real
@david-rf7tf3 ай бұрын
i think thats what mahito did too
@m.v.j68043 ай бұрын
@@david-rf7tf Why am I laughing at this
@kevinescobar3703 ай бұрын
@@david-rf7tfEMOTIONAL DAMAGE!!!
@garfieldbutswagger49673 ай бұрын
@@david-rf7tf NAH BRO THATS TOO GOOD
@coreythepeanut3 ай бұрын
Gege has GOT to be rolling dice during the writing for these fights
@thatoldwasabi3 ай бұрын
Its a bad day to be a Nobara supremist 😔
@TheMikeBailey183 ай бұрын
I like how Gege speaks on his own writing like it’s not him😂
@TheMikeBailey182 ай бұрын
@@JojiLegend I write daily dh
@drenchedinsyrupp60593 ай бұрын
MY SOLDIERS DENY MY SOLDIERS THEORIZE MY SOLDIERS COOOOOOOOOOPE
@arcanerune91343 ай бұрын
I think what Gege means by Gojo lost is the writer phenomenon of characters taking on their own lives. Its a weird thing that happens where if you have spent enough time with a character, you kinda go on autopilot, and the words just fall onto the page for them. You are not even aware of what you are writing at the time. The ideas just fall onto the page, and you only discover what you wrote when you read it back.
@peeled-lemon3 ай бұрын
2:56 gege truly is a curse
@WanderingMendicant-qd7mv3 ай бұрын
Megumi originally being the mc comes as a surprise to no one.
@st.altair49363 ай бұрын
Nobara glazers in shambles rn 💀 Edit after chapter 267: I have made a severe and continuous lapse in my judgment, and I don't expect to be forgiven. I'm simply here to apologize.
@agedmilk3 ай бұрын
coping rn bro 😭 im in shambles
@Bimgusthebased3 ай бұрын
We're cooked dawg, there's no hope left.
@indusharma2293 ай бұрын
A MAN'S COPE NEVER DIES
@drenchedinsyrupp60593 ай бұрын
AS LONG AS THERE IS DELUSION, THERE IS HOPE.
@richogarden3 ай бұрын
Me😢😢
@madmike0223 ай бұрын
Ngl it's pretty entertaining finding a story where not even the author knows where it's going, I just hope I get my boy Gojo back
@eyeofthebeholder_3 ай бұрын
rip nobara. You deserved better.
@Hateful_3 ай бұрын
Megumi was set up for failure since day 1 😭🤣
@drenchedinsyrupp60593 ай бұрын
whole series started bc the guy couldn't stand on business 😭😭
@sleshstamp3 ай бұрын
At least he admitted to his faults as a writer and was honest about it.
@Drackmord923 ай бұрын
There is a world where Gege genuinely thought that the way Yuji asked about Nobara and after receiving silence says "I get it" was a good enough confirmation, and therefore now commented on it like it was something said and done.
@jmb47kkamikaze803 ай бұрын
Even GEGE got tired of Megumi trying to spam Mahoraga 🤣🤣🤣on weak opponentes
@thesevendeadlysins5783 ай бұрын
Megumi even tried summoning in episode 1. Lol
@nataliawashington8723 ай бұрын
@@thesevendeadlysins578that was against Sukuna that doesn’t count
@josecriollo69763 ай бұрын
@@nataliawashington872mf was about to summon mahoraga on todo
@MrSarcasticGaming3 ай бұрын
I had already heard Nobara was confirmed dead in an interview, gege mentioned it before I STG
@CamiloLopez-zg1tf3 ай бұрын
Not quite, he said she was dead (clinically), but he also said Nitta could save her since she was barely dead, which is not a confirmation at all. Then megumi "confirmed" in the most ambigous way that she died, but the Weekly Shonen Jump released a list with the characters and their current state during the culling games arc, Mai, Nanami, Yaga, etc. were stated dead, but Nobara was mentioned as injured. I feel like there's only two explanations for those words, it's either taken out of context or he regretted leaving the door open and refused to develop that idea, which I consider stupid, he's a great writer and that's not something a great writer would do
@renatobregu3 ай бұрын
@@CamiloLopez-zg1tfHe makes mistakes, I too think he’s a great writer, and I’m not criticising here cus I’m a Gojo fan, (love Sukuna) but it doesn’t feel like he’s lying here, I feel he considers his treatment of Nobara a bit of a mistake and would just like to move on. I don’t think he’s THAT much of a troll to bring her back after dropping this. Shame imo cus I wanted to see her developed more, but the story is ending soon so it makes sense she’s dead
@selfportrait83633 ай бұрын
@@CamiloLopez-zg1tfhe's not a great writer. He's got obvious flaws in his writings, he leaves important characters out of the story without explanation and reintroduces them unceremoniously, the obvious example being todo. But he's great at writing logic and ins and outs of technical details.
@CamiloLopez-zg1tf3 ай бұрын
@@renatobregu First of all, Gege lies all the time, he states every year that the manga is gonna end soon but it never ends. The thing is that now that I think about it, I feel like people are just taking the word depart out of context, technically she DID die in Shibuya and he even explained it a while ago. The thing is that he also said she could be revived as I said, so even if he's not wrong by saying she died as Nanami in Shibuya, she still had a chance to make it through and that hasn't been explained. Also, even if the story feels like it's ending, it's not, there's still room for a lot.
@TheManBehindtheFunny3 ай бұрын
@@selfportrait8363 That's why I was thinking Nobara would come back, actually. BECAUSE of Todo. Like, if we're able to throw out literally everyone that has shown up even a little in the series, even characters who were firmly set up to be now out of commission (Todo), Nobara should logically have a shot too since she was never explicitly said to be dead in the source.
@adeadsxciety3 ай бұрын
i hate that yuji robbed us of a mc that had an actual goal, i don’t need him to want to be the strongest, but at least strive to do something of purpose other than what the plot demands, L decision on gege’s behalf IMO
@nataliawashington8723 ай бұрын
You mean Megumi wanting to save his sister?
@adeadsxciety3 ай бұрын
@@nataliawashington872 yes precisely, he knew what he wanted and didn’t need to be the world’s strongest sorcerer to the thing he wanted to do most, just because megumi doesn’t have the coolest fight scenes doesn’t make him a bad character in the slightest
@Sierpham3 ай бұрын
Yuji does have a goals he wants to kill sukuna and get rid of all curses
@curranstuddard58393 ай бұрын
If Gojo can’t come back then Nobara wouldn’t either. Gege is evil
@lain58583 ай бұрын
I would preffer Gojo than Nobara though
@StrayTato3 ай бұрын
Don't like how Gege made her death so ambiguous and open-ended.
@goobeeeer3 ай бұрын
@@StrayTatomahito blew a chunk of her face off, by the time the healing mf had arrived mahito was already done fucking around with yuji, a wound that serious would have needed to be paused on the SPOT, which it wasn't, even the guy himself says "she could live but it's an infinitesimal small chance, please don't blame me if she doesn't come out of this."
@shuaty3 ай бұрын
@@goobeeeer I think one big issue is that when Mahito touched Nanami, a Grade 1 sorcerer, he literally exploded on screen. When he touched a Grade 3 Sorcererer (Nobara) directly on the head, only a small segment of her face blew off and it wasnt even facing the viewer. Then we no longer see her on screen but then Arata shows up with his ability saying he potentially stopped her wounds from growing. So honestly I think the simple lack of detail involved in her death implies her status is ambiguous.
@bigbosses46863 ай бұрын
@@shuatyKnowing Mahito, his sick ass probably did that on purpose so Yuji could watch the light go out in her eyes.
@xochipilli94353 ай бұрын
It isn’t that random the last times she’s mentioned is when Yuji asks Megumi about her and Megumi doesn’t say anything with him saying “I get it”. The next time she was brought up was when Yuji talked about Hana and him not being comfortable with the idea that’s she’s replaced Nobara, so going from that to Hana replacing Nobara to me it seemed clear that she was dead. And it’s been years since with nothing else.
@RemyEFrancis3 ай бұрын
Gege just doesn't care about Nobara like that
@DakotaMcElroy3 ай бұрын
Gonna be honest, I'm quickly becoming less and less interested in JJK as a whole with a lot of information that is completely vague in the manga (with hopes to get answers later on) only for these questions to be answered outside of it. Just seems a bit disappointing.
@RedLights9000-f3l3 ай бұрын
If I remember correctly in a cover page you there was mahito playing with 3 puppets and they were like nanami jumbei and nobara
@gerharddamm59333 ай бұрын
Honestly, Nobara’s death , yuki ‘s wasted potential and Tsumiki’s lack of backstory are probably the 3 most egregious examples of Gege just doing plain bad writing. And I say this as someone who loves JJK
@IppoX902 ай бұрын
Thank God I don't care about those three, so they're not minus examples in my book.
@its_ecalire2 ай бұрын
I hate how the author is playing with his characters, "I don’t really care about him/her, I just wanted to make him look like *****" LIKE JUST SHUT UP AND GIVE TO ALL YOUR CHARACTERS A ROLE IN YOUR MANGA💀
@IppoX902 ай бұрын
@@its_ecalire Well, he's free to do what he wants with them after all. I personally agree with that line of thinking and would probably do the same.
@its_ecalire2 ай бұрын
@@IppoX90 the problem is that he is doing nothing with them, or he just use them for 2 chapters and then he throws them away
@Sumble2 ай бұрын
It seems to me he didn't really develop the female characters as much, apart from Maki but I didn't really like what happened to her character. Nobara had so much potential with her cursed technique! She just wasn't experienced enough
@ChromiumDome4113 ай бұрын
I’m surprised there wasn’t a statue of Gojo built like a Greek God just randomly submitted by an anonymous user in there.
@nataliawashington8723 ай бұрын
I mean there were memorial shrines in Gojo’s memory in Japan, so I wouldn’t be surprised if someone was currently building a statue of Gojo😂
@frogartti3 ай бұрын
I feel like Gege already revealed that Nobara wasn’t coming back. People just didn’t accept it.
@sojourner47263 ай бұрын
I trust nothing until the story is finished.
@flwutershyzzz3 ай бұрын
we should all love meimei as much as gojo so that gege thinks she “impacts” us and kills her off
@divadiva19683 ай бұрын
Shes a bad b**ch, only care about herself, nobody love character like her. At least i love her design and found her personality is relatable sometimes
@RodhiShartedHarded3 ай бұрын
bruh gege wanted to kill yuji so badly
@divadiva19683 ай бұрын
Spread the hate then he wont kill yuuji
@acekingxiii2496Ай бұрын
Looking back, gege said something along the lines of departing from nobara in shibuya. Depart means to leave as if for a journey, not kill. They left nobara to recover in shibuya, then continued the journey onwards towards the culling games. Yuji doesnt know the details of their plans so in his Domain Expansion, he very much believed Nobara was dead. We'll see who else can possibly make their return.
@just0_3 ай бұрын
What Gege said doesn't necessarily mean Nobara's dead. Emphasis on the word "departed". It could very well mean dead, as is the case with Nanami, but it could just as well mean gone from the story, which, for all intents and purposes, she'll most likely be, even if she is alive. At this point in the story her only shot of showing up again would be in the epilogue (if there's gonna be one) or at the very earliest after the battle against Sukuna is over, since if she were to participate she'd just be dead weight. So yeah, maybe it's a translation matter, but I wouldn't say it's completely Nobarover quite yet.
@aba79683 ай бұрын
Her showing up in the end is just more disrespectful and makes no sense to make readers wonder about her status for that. Like you're telling me all this ambiguity is... for a panel with her in the epilogue ? I think Gege should've just decided what he really wanted to do with Nobara from shibuya, the fact it took him this long to drop such a bombshell is comical.
@theobscene16543 ай бұрын
I wouldnt say dead weight. I replied to someone else about this but this was the important part as far as your comment is concerned. Let Yugo/Gota fail the current purple, set up another, Sukuna bragging bullshit, SUDDENLY SPIKES (Mahito fight callback), flashback sequence where the hell she has been culminating with her resonance attack thru Yuji.
@ovozeador3 ай бұрын
@@aba7968 I think her status as dead could be assumed as early as in Hana's introduction in the culling games, when Itadori says he's afraid that she could replace Nobara, why would he say that if Nobara was alive?
@aba79683 ай бұрын
@@ovozeador I mean the panel with Megumi can imply she's dead depending on your interpretation but that not the point, he gave her an out to survive through Nitta so the most feasible way to handle it is to outright confirm it.
@HabitualThinker3 ай бұрын
She’s dead, man.
@BonnibelBonifaceXIII3 ай бұрын
When Gege says "can't use the flower that symbolizes rebirth", I think they mean it like this - Yuta taking over Gojo's body is not technically a rebirth, because it's not Gojo's consciousness himself coming back to life. If after Yuta's 5 minutes are up then Gojo's mind takes over the body, THAT would be a rebirth - he was actually, properly dead, then came back - as opposed to something like having his body piloted like a mecha by a pilot who didn't read the instruction manual first. Basically - I don't think after the 5 minutes that Gojo will come back - because Gege probably would've had the foresight to use the rebirth flower to hint that he'd die and come back... So maybe Yuta's stuck in Gojo's body forever, the body flops over dead, or Kenjaku takes over for a nice plot-twist.
@boberlito44333 ай бұрын
I’m living in shibuya rn studying abroad. I’ll try and get in there and get some 4k images and send them over to those who want them lol.
@raec54263 ай бұрын
These translation notes said Nobara and Nanami "departed" which doesn't necessarily have to mean death. We know at least for sure in the case of Nanami it is. Later in the translation notes it says the sorcerers from Geto's cult in Shibuya "died". The word died could have been used for the part with Nobara like it was with other characters but it wasn't. Just something noticeable.
@JMandJJ77973 ай бұрын
You mean those two randos died to the freaking meteor lmao. Or are we talking about the girls that Sukuna killed.
@raec54263 ай бұрын
@@JMandJJ7797 The people in Jogo vs Sukuna
@JMandJJ77973 ай бұрын
@@raec5426 RIP those bozos.
@jamescarballo72482 ай бұрын
RIP Nobara and Nanami😢
@rajaryan-fe1oy3 ай бұрын
Nah he's trolling (smokes cope in the corner)
@ajwaddanwarr34093 ай бұрын
This really sucks, what a terrible way to learn Nobara is dead. Honestly my enjoyment of JJK has been diminishing with each new chapter and yet I am sticking to it cause I wanna know how it all ends.
@Yuuji-ES3 ай бұрын
to learn? she had a part of her brain blown off, wdym
@HylianHanzou3 ай бұрын
Nobara being dead was never uncertain, it was literally seen in panels and later implied by everyone when Yuji asked. The only reason no one said anything would be because Nobara wanted to pay Yuji back for not telling anything when he came back, but to be honest there would not be much to add to the current story if she does come back, so it doesn't makes too much sense if she is alive.
@Wickery.3 ай бұрын
Nobara is still alive lil bro
@CoolOkay_3 ай бұрын
I don't think she'd add nothing tbh, she'd be more of a morale boost for Yuji I think. Also, she'd definitely be able to abuse the hell out of the fact that Sukuna's limbs are being laid out all over the battlefield each time he's cut up. Third, to say it wasn't vague is kinda a lie, Megumi gave Yuji the same reaction that he'd give if he asked about his sister or something.
@CamiloLopez-zg1tf3 ай бұрын
First of all, it IS uncertain, Gege said she was dead but then said she could be saved it Nitta did the right procedure, then about the "confirmation" from Megumi, it is so ambigous it has many valid interpretations, and a few chapters later the Weekly Shonen Jump published a list with the characters current status during the Culling games arc, Nanami, Yaga, Mai, etc were stated dead, Nobara wasn't, she was mentioned as injured. That's NOT CERTAIN. Also, if she comes back she can actually have a big impact in the fight, with resonance she can do what Yuji's been doing so far and even from distance, combine that with Todo's Boogie Woogie, she would make Sukuna go crazy. Plus, I'm sure that if she comes back, Megumi would have a VERY GOOD reason to fight again, he wouldn't want her friend to die again.
@p3wter03 ай бұрын
@@Wickery.Clapped by eye disease 🙏
@user-fg3dz5kv7q3 ай бұрын
It was always uncertain and to claim otherwise is absurd
@mclekfkeiwdisidido68583 ай бұрын
Potential man out here potentialing before his debut
@MB-eh2kp3 ай бұрын
Megumi really had the potential to be the MC 💀
@MrBlueski933 ай бұрын
I wish Megumi was the protagonist and Yuji gives off kuwabara vibes I could have got behind that
@dirtmouth68613 ай бұрын
id really like you to cover the whole exhibit when its all out and available!! im really curious about what they put up (need to see close ups of the higurama stuff and my GOAT choso) and would also really like your thoughts and opinions on all of the exhibit!
@hell.yeah-3 ай бұрын
gege already pointed out nobara being dead after shibuya but people misinterpreted the panel
@DiceMan203 ай бұрын
The Cope is whispering in my ear that its only to make Nobara's return more of a surprise That damn cope.
@somethingsomewhere663 ай бұрын
The fact that it took the writer to literally spill it out directly and there are still people coping is absurd
@CodeMilkMan3 ай бұрын
Megumi knew he wouldve been the bum from the start thank god he got sidelined
@lain58583 ай бұрын
How Megumi was a bum?
@NamelessDragon213 ай бұрын
Once a bum always a bum
@mr.bakonator39003 ай бұрын
yall just hop on the hate train
@lain58583 ай бұрын
@@mr.bakonator3900 Let them be. I hope Gege see this then keep Megumi alive and happy in the end like Mei Mei
@Ungrounded-jay3 ай бұрын
@@NamelessDragon21 writer's fault
@GoldenAngelX53 ай бұрын
I think the flower bit just meant he wanted to use a certain flower but because of the because of the way he had already written the story the meanings would contrast
@hiruyow80733 ай бұрын
If you are going to think about it, these statement are all "what ifs" thoughts of gege. I will stil cling to the idea that nobara is still alive knowing how its 100% vague it was back in the chapter that the person who carried her body gave them 50/50 chance she might live.
@Yuuji-ES3 ай бұрын
the fuck are you on? what 50/50? he said its an extremely small chance????? Also his ability is to stop wounds from getting worse so idk how that would help with some of ur brain exploding
@sf9362 ай бұрын
I still have hope for Nobara, not to return to the fight but at least having made it out alive by the epilogue
@Shredow23 ай бұрын
As far as I'm concerned, it changes nothing about whether she's dead or not. We still don't know. All he said is that he decided to have her "depart" in the Shibuya arc. And that's what she did, she left the story. That doesn't mean she's dead and that doesn't mean she can't come back, just that she was intended to leave the story at that point. Does that mean she's alive, then? Not necessarily, either. But Gege has gone out of his way to be vague about it and he's still being vague about it here unless the translation is just wrong. I won't believe she's 100% dead until somebody in the story says it, we see a grave, or Gege directly confirms it himself.
@erenja3ger8713 ай бұрын
It means a lot actually. He didn't just say "depart". He said depart with Nanami. Meaning we should see her gone similar to how we see Nanami gone lol. He has confirmed it. You are just disregarding nuances of language for your agenda. You the kind of guy who needs characters to say something specific the story is pointing towards when it should already gotten from context
@Shredow23 ай бұрын
@@erenja3ger871 yeah depart with Nanami because they both left the story at the same time. There’s not much more nuance than that other than what you’re assuming yourself. And you seem to be the type of guy to assume something is set in stone when it isn’t. Then again, it’s what I expect from an attack on Titan fan. Very mediocre manga, with very low level manga readers as fans. Sad!
@Pomho18123 ай бұрын
@@erenja3ger871the word depart was used for both Nanami and Nobara but the term die was used for the Geto's sorcerer during Jogo/Sukuna meteor sequence. I think Gege here is telling that he knew beforehand Nobara and Nanami would be out of the story by the end of Shibuya, no matter how they're removed from it.
@MasterNabber3 ай бұрын
I think it's time to stop coping.
@Shredow23 ай бұрын
@@MasterNabber I think it’s time to use your brain. Big ask from a JJK fan, I know.
@peterzeppeli25633 ай бұрын
It aint over till its over ZEEEEUUUSS RETURN NOBARA TO THE STORY AND MY SOUL IS YOOUURSSSSS
@Yuuji-ES3 ай бұрын
its Ares
@peterzeppeli25633 ай бұрын
@@Yuuji-ES I know but you know how bad it gotta be to be begging Zeus
@dabonethug3 ай бұрын
4:37 this was my exact reaction, like dude tryna act like he was watching the fight as it went on😭
@user-ds5fb8kx1o3 ай бұрын
Is it that her death was vague or fans decided to make their own reasons for her to not be dead. I mean we watched her die and saw her final moments play out as she faded.
@stevenclarkremando85503 ай бұрын
Tournament arc culling game could've been soo good
@richogarden3 ай бұрын
I am still choosing to believe in Nobara's glorious return 😢 At least now I know why Mei mei is alive, Gege is truly killing anyone who is dear to fans' hearts
@_Retkon3 ай бұрын
i still dont understand how people thought nobara was alive, there was literally a page where yuji asked what happened and then got all sad when he was given silence, implying she was 100% dead.
@JohnPerry272 ай бұрын
Because instead of crying or even looking a little bit downtrodden, Yuji perks up and yells "I know what this means!" If he actually reacted to anyone's death in that manner, especially Nobara, that would put him above Sukuna and Kenjaku in terms of pure evil.
@_Retkon2 ай бұрын
@@JohnPerry27 he straight up clenches his fist and is looking down when he yells. mf was NOT perked up or hyped about that shit at all its just choso hit the subject change fast as hell and they didnt really have time to dwell on things considering the position they were in.
@JohnPerry27Ай бұрын
@@_RetkonI swear I usually don't do this, but how do you like them apples?
@_RetkonАй бұрын
@@JohnPerry27 is what it is, at the end of the day at least i was never a gojo coper. or for any character besides todo for that matter
@mreverything70563 ай бұрын
I think there's something to be said about how fumbled Nobara's death was by Gege. People are treating a fucking QnA like Nobara's actual death scene instead of what was meant to be her death. I don't know if he's lying and planned to bring her back, or if he just thought seeing her without an eye would be good enough.
@vintage_dev3 ай бұрын
Come back Kugisaki
@DoggyMoon3 ай бұрын
So Gege is basically admitting to bad writing at points in the story? Okay that is nice but he’s still a monster
@NO-zb3fz3 ай бұрын
Top 3 comments hating on megumi instead of actually having a discussion. Fandom is cooked.
@lain58583 ай бұрын
This is good. Means Megumi will be safe and happy in the ending like Mei Mei 😂
@NO-zb3fz3 ай бұрын
@@lain5858 Ik you're joking, but that might fr become true. The megumi hate is no joke WORSE than even meimei's was at her peak. Megumi dying would unironically make most of the fandom happy if anything.
@lain58583 ай бұрын
@@NO-zb3fz I am not joking. If gege see how the english and latino fandom hates Megumi (he is top 3 fan favorite in Japan btw) he WILL definitely give the happiest ending to this boy. That's Why I want Gege to notice this hate bandweagon here in the west side.
@thekamotodragon3 ай бұрын
@@NO-zb3fz ...except in Japan, where Megs is still a top 3 character lol. They really like him for some reason...and guess which are the only fans Gege actually listens to? That's right, it's the Japanese ones. Megumi is a certified bum tho, that's not a subjective opinion, it's just a fact, regardless of what they say.
@NO-zb3fz3 ай бұрын
@@thekamotodragon Do you have a reason for megumi being a bum(Plz don't say the stereotypical stupid shit. Megumi does infact have bum behavior, but most arguments are utter garbage.)
@ominarous3 ай бұрын
it does depend on *exactly* what he said. If he intended to "end her life" in this arc, or if he intended to "remove her from the story (temporarily?)" in this arc. What he said could have very well been a bit more ambiguous
@Juicymoosie3 ай бұрын
If Nobora dies then that means only Yuji will survive, that also means megumi is also going to die but how will his death happen?
@pootispow32323 ай бұрын
It's pretty obvious.
@coppershortsword85443 ай бұрын
remember when Sukuna ripped Yuji's heart and then he died? yeah, that's how Megumi dies, even if Sukuna is in his Heian form, once he dies Megumi's body will most likely be completely broken.
@richogarden3 ай бұрын
It's between Yuji and Megumi then. But I think that Gege might kill them both just for funsies
@Patatasforthewin3 ай бұрын
Nobara’s coming back in the next few chapter mark my words it wouldn’t change anything but at this point gege has no option
@InShibuya3 ай бұрын
Gege continues to be my favourite mangaka!
@YuusukeTakeru3 ай бұрын
-Naoya💀
@Josh-mm4iw3 ай бұрын
I feel like nobara having her life flash before her death scene is what solidified her as dying for me. It seemed like everyone who experienced that were definitively dead
@_Chxco_3 ай бұрын
Megumi wants to die but apparently he got lots of hate and might not get killed like Mei Mei bcs of that💀
@richogarden3 ай бұрын
No one hates Megumi according to the popularity list (from japanese fans) , it's just Western edgelords
@nataliawashington8723 ай бұрын
@@richogardendidn’t it say 1. Megumi, 2. Yuji, 3. Gojo? Which was honestly surprising? I expected Megumi to be top 3, top 5 AT LEAST! But I didn’t expect him to be #1
@nader48233 ай бұрын
NOBARA IS NOT DEAD. SHES NOT DEAD. GEGE WOULDNT DO THAT TO ME. HE WOULDNT DO THAT TO US. GEGE GAVE US CHARLES FUCKING BERNARD HE WOULD NOT DO THAT TO US
@BrandonLung3 ай бұрын
WHAT IF KENNY RESPAWNED IN NOBARA'S CORPSE
@WRInprint3 ай бұрын
y would he nobara is a bad host
@ShyGuyGuyGuyGuyGuyGuyGuyGuyGuy3 ай бұрын
Manga spoilers Yuta made Rika devour Kenjakus body after he killed him, so that he could use his CT (Cursed Technique) on Gojo to fight Sukuna.
@pieloloon3 ай бұрын
The only way this would happen is if rika somehow pooped kenjaku out and he just waddled away without a body 😭
@BrandonLung3 ай бұрын
@@ShyGuyGuyGuyGuyGuyGuyGuyGuyGuy but what if he had a contingency plan? Knowing him, he likely does
@samuelisaacdelacruzaguiler24893 ай бұрын
@@BrandonLungThe only contingency plan he had was for Sukuna to devour Tengen.
@eclergt99263 ай бұрын
This makes me quite sad, besides her intresting CT, I would always enjoy her scenes with Yuji, even more when they fought together. I know there isn't much space for her in the story, but I do feel she was killed too early.
@dantens20103 ай бұрын
I’ve been saying it for years that it was ambiguous. She’s fucking dead 😂Nobara is fucking dead and has been dead
@rezz__emiya59483 ай бұрын
People who want nobara back didn't read the manga I will die on that hill
@inturnetavatar3 ай бұрын
I don’t understand how anyone reads this and doesn’t put Gege on fraud watch or a least bring him up on charges. As much as it hurts me to say this, Gege is basically tryna lazily justify/retcon his bad writing. That’s why he’s casually doing this Nobara shit. He just didn’t know what else to do with her.
@minillama96253 ай бұрын
Shouldn’t gege like redo culling games? And some characters?
@Grillz0013 ай бұрын
If gege didn't know what to do with megumi and tsumiki why did he even bother including them in the story
@thekamotodragon3 ай бұрын
Wait... Geto's hot assistant died? To JoGoat's meteor? Damn...