Gel Or Lithium Why I Chose NOCO Battery For My Harley Davidson Fatboy

Welcome back to the channel, in todays episode I explain why I ditched the Gel battery and went with a new Noco Lithium Battery for my Harley Davidson Fatboy.
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[@BillTheHarleyGuy]

awesome video as always , i'll be checking on getting a new battery for my Dyna as i'm getting it ready for my trip to Florida for The Forgotten Angels Campout. will be heading out on March 11th 👍

[@TheBadgers]

Awesome see you there

[@StevyFaux]

It will be interesting to see how the lithium battery hold up. Our dealer won’t sell them cause almost all of them the did sell were warrantied. Great job man.

[@TheBadgers]

The Harley ones are junk, in fact they pulled them from inventory. I heard they have a redesigned one coming out. I would never buy a Harley Battery

[@glenspargo3376]

Another great video! Good info. I have heard good things about the lithium batteries. In theory they last longer and reduce weight. I am going to continue using Lead-Acid batteries of the non-spillable AGM type because Lead-Acid types are recyclable and recover nearly 100% of the Lead. If you buy Lead-Acid type batteries try to buy one that is not run down below 12.5vdc or it might be weak from self discharging and staying that way too long.

[@TheBadgers]

Good info to know thanks Glen

[@WrongDuWin]

I keep the Noco jump box in my saddle bag at all times. Great products from Noco. Love it. Just got the charger for the winter months.

[@alp3781]

Noco is a smart company. They also have good products. I have the G1100 maintainer for years now. Never failed me. I am going to give them first try on my first Lithium 20 model for my 2020 Goldwing which has a Yuasa AGM, which already is struggling due to the high crank required to move a 6cyl block. Time will tell how well they hold. The G1100 has a charging option for Lithium.

[@robsea8088]

Where you able to change it? How it is working? Would you go back to non lithium battery?

[@alp3781]

@@robsea8088 So, after reading some complaints from riders, I cam to conclusion it will not be worth it for me to switch. I live in a state that its either cold in Winter and hot in the Summer. I went with Motobatt instead. No issues, very powerful for the Goldwing and its AGM.

[@AdobeSFP]

As a Forty-Eight owner I highly recommend Lithium batteries. I had a lot of start problem at cold temperatures with my previous AGM battery. My both batteries are the same brand.

[@TheBadgers]

I am a fan for sure, light weight, durable, and long lasting. Thanks for watching.

[@josephfriedrich9792]

Both my lithium batteries expanded! Went back to agm

[@jeffpotter5786]

I got a fat Bob 2009 and I got to keep it on the trickle charger because of the security on it it works by key fob. If I don’t it will go dead within two weeks so I keep my trickle charger plugged into it.

[@williamwintemberg]

I just installed a NOCO in my Dyna. It's double the cranking amps of the stock battery. It turns the engine like never before. It also has BMS (battery monitoring system) built in which is a great thing to have on Lithium Batteries. I also purchased the NOCO charger. I purchased both on Amazon. I'm happy! One final note, I'm just a little guy that bought the battery. I have no strings to anyone. By the way, nice video as well as the tip on which terminal to remove first and which to install first going back. I'm one of the ones that learned that lesson way late the hard way. It can wind up very bad! Don't tell anybody.

[@stanbyme3414]

I just put the Noco NLP 30 in my Street Glide and I want to know about using the existing pigtail will it work to charge that battery and I do know that I have to get a new lithium charger which I will get on Amazon

[@williamwintemberg]

@@stanbyme3414 NOCO suggests you use one of their chargers for their batteries. Not having the wherewithal to dispute their suggestion I purchased the GENIUS1. Cute little charger that seems to work as one would expect. The NOCO chargers don't have SAE connectors which is the connector my Harley pigtail came with. NOCO does sell an adapter that converts their connector to the SAE connector on my Harley. This adapter can be found in the NOCO store on Amazon. It's the model number GC009. I hope this helps.

[@stanbyme3414]

@@williamwintemberg right on, I am buying both you mentioned now,and how often you suggest I connect that genius 1 to my bike?

[@williamwintemberg]

@@stanbyme3414 I'm thinking it all depends on how often you ride the bike. Most lithium ion batteries prefer to sit at around 50 to 60 percent charge unlike lead acid that like to be float charged at close to 100 percent. They don't self discharge nearly as fast as lead acid batteries. I don't know what accessories you may have on your bike that may present a parasitic load on the battery. Mine just has what ever electronics that make the engine run. One thing you don't want to do is charge the battery when the battery is below freezing as it may cause damage to the battery over time. All that to say this, you will have to experiment. I have had a lithium battery in my Harley since 2014 and have had good luck charging mine every one to two months. Your results may be different. Just remember, lithium ion batteries don't like going below around 15 percent and they don't like staying at 100 percent. Keep them at around 80 percent and you will get the best life out of them. You will get the hang of it. Keep this stuff in mind because if you do it's probably going to be a long time before you ever have to buy another battery.

[@stanbyme3414]

@@williamwintemberg first I want to thank you for taking the time and passing on this knowledge to me I really appreciate it and current problem I have is after I swapped out the battery it was a simple negative terminal positive terminal reattach to the lithium I start the bike let it idle and it likes to jump 14-to 16 volts on my gauge which is in the red line of the volt gage ,why is my bike doing this now do you know?

[@phillipbrooks6919]

Love the video very informational I'm thinking on putting a lithium battery in my bike by the way do you sell the shirt you're wearing I really like the logo

[@TheBadgers]

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[@jerrygill931]

Anytime you change the battery on a harley, it's a good practice to remove the main fuse to protect sensitive electronics in case of a mishap. Good video though.

[@thangknowa3288]

I am tired of replacing AGM batteries in my Road King every 2 to 3 years, 2 year warranty is no help. I plan to go NoCo Lithium next swap out, 4-5 years would be awesome. I guess time will tell.

[@marvelharris9540]

How many spacers did you take off to match the oem battery height? what charger do you use and did you have to charge the battery before operation? how long does it take to charge these batteries? thanks

[@TheBadgers]

2 spacers, I use a trickle charger made fir lithium batteries it will work on any battery, but the regular charger will not work on the lithium. I didn't have to charge it put it in and ready to go

[@jeffpotter5786]

Make sure you keep a trickle charger plugged into when not using it. Fat bobs and fat boys probably work the same way and I’ve got a Fatbob and it will go into weeks because of the key fob system.

[@stanbyme3414]

I have a 2017 Street Glide I just put the Noco NLP 30 lithium battery in I understand I need to use a new lithium type tender/charger now my question is about the existing pigtail and the Noco battery do they work together or do I need to change out that pigtail

[@TheBadgers]

The pigtail will work fine I wouldn’t change it

[@stanbyme3414]

@@TheBadgers no I don't want to change that pigtail at all just wanted to make sure that I could use it for the lithium battery that I put in someone mentioned I just need to get a lithium charger and a SAE pigtail converter for that charger does not come with the right connection to the factory stock Harley one

[@tennwingman3350]

Just a question, do the lithium batteries require a different charger/maintainer? I have never tried a lithium battery.

[@TheBadgers]

They do have a specific tender it’s my understanding that the lithium will work on other batteries, but the other ones don’t work on the lithium. The lithium isn’t supposed to discharge like the other batteries

[@tennwingman3350]

@@TheBadgers Thanks, I will have to go do some research. I like the thought of a lighter, longer lasting battery. Thanks.

[@mrdevinstone]

Yes, I got the Genius 1 which is only about $25 for my NOCO lithium battery and the quick disconnect plug, all fantastic, highly recommended.

[@LuisHernandez-cb7bp]

I have been using lithium motorcycle batteries for 5 years and occasionally I have used a regular 1.5Amp charger it under charges up to 90% which is enough to start my bike

[@jeffpotter5786]

I just be sure to put your plug on and plug it into a trickle charger when you’re not using it is basically designed to have a trickle charger plugged into it when you’re not riding it Harley guy told me that

[@davehowie03]

How’s this battery doing now? I am seeing that they go bad all over the place. Figured I’d ask a channel I trust.

[@TheBadgers]

2 years 100k between 2 bikes with zero issues, I am a big fan, they also have a 5 year warranty none of the others do

[@davehowie03]

@@TheBadgers good stuff. I love my Noco jump box and will now probably go with a Noco battery when I need to replace it.

[@tacitogrande]

You jinxed me. Went to pull the bike out from winter storage. Refilled the fluids, checked the tires, reinstalled the seat and boom! Dead battery, bud! 🤣 Less than 2 years old and only had a 1 year warranty.

[@TheBadgers]

That sucks but lol so what you gonna get lithium?? Do you keep it on a tender?

[@tacitogrande]

Yea, she stays on a tender, but the winter was extremely cold this year so I think that is what did her in. I'm gonna do some research before I shell out more money for a battery this year. I got two seasons out of this one, but I think there is a better option out there.

[@tacitogrande]

Should have just pulled the battery out of the bike, but you live and you learn. 🤣🤣

[@jasonsanderson9385]

@@TheBadgers how is this battery on cold starts(cold weather NJ Winter) I ride all year long, my current battery always on a tender. If I forget to put on tender bike won't start in morning during winter months..... Would you recommend this battery?

[@alanwagers7073]

How are you liking your new noco ?? I just bought an nlp30 for my 2016 freewheeler

[@TheBadgers]

Still going strong I have them in 2 of our bikes they work great

[@Smallhandskev]

I just bought one and I’ve always had problems with my electrical frying. I went to turn it on and I got one click and the battery completely died.

[@TheBadgers]

Man that stinks sounds like you have another issue not a battery issue

[@TripleD-oj3hx]

Where did you purchase the Noco lithium battery?

[@TheBadgers]

The link is in the description of the video

[@desotopete]

How is the battery holding up after a year?

[@TheBadgers]

Zero issues starts up like a champ I am a fan, have them in 3 bikes now

[@TheBlaineFindley]

He obviously didn't read that instruction book. But of course I only got half way through the video so maybe he did lol

[@DeFiDuke]

you didn't include the most important part, the connectors - it's different on the noco

[@TheBadgers]

Wasn’t any different on mine, so I didn’t include it because it wasn’t a thing for my bike

[@KamberBCT]

How is that battery doing after a year or use?

[@TheBadgers]

It has been great, I actually have it it 2 more of my bikes as well

[@ksoblv]

1:03 just installed the Noco Lithium in my ‘15 FLTRXS today. 😎

[@shaunmacdonald7309]

Instructions book my goodness

[@TheBadgers]

Crazy huh

[@KingFitAngler]

so... good battery to buy or what?

[@TheBadgers]

I have used it for over 1 year and put them in 2 more of my bikes I am a fan, the cranking power is nice as well they fire right up.

[@Wind.Road.Therapy]

Ah oh, that means I'll be due for a new battery soon, my battery is 3 1/2 years old.

[@tennwingman3350]

I had a Yusa Battery on my last bike that lasted 6.5 yrs. They last a long time for some reason. I am now trying a DieHard but I like the idea of the lithium Sonny was talking about.

[@TheBadgers]

That is a long time

[@tennwingman3350]

@@TheBadgers Yuasa batteries are original in a lot of bikes and have a reputation for lasting a long time. Typically average 3-5 yrs according to all reviews. I had good luck with them. But they have to be ordered .

[@jeffreyengle2762]

So, it’s been a year….how is it??

[@TheBadgers]

2 thumbs up I have them in all my bikes except the Vrod

[@jeffreyengle2762]

@@TheBadgers I noticed in the video that you’re using the NPT 20 ….is there a reason you went for that one instead of the NPT 30…. Everywhere I looked online the NPT 30 is the one that fits my 2019 Road king as well as other touring Harleys.?

[@TheBadgers]

@@jeffreyengle2762 my bike isn’t a touring it’s a softail that’s the battery that it said fit it and it did works great

[@jeffkraus1457]

Still happy?

[@TheBadgers]

Yes I have them in all my bikes now.