Gel testing Speer Gold Dots at high velocity

[@tyler6147]

Are we no longer doing weekly chats?

[@JohnnysReloadingBench]

I need to skip again this week, but I promise it will be back next week. I'm sorry!

[@tyler6147]

@@JohnnysReloadingBench You will have to pay us with an extra video at some point for your absence. LOL! I'm of course kidding. I just wasn't sure if I missed the announcement or something.

[@cardude1992]

Those lead popcorns get the job done. Speer Gold dots are amazing.

[@robwells1480]

Nice work showing the devastation of a .30 caliber round. The gel blocks are just as valuable as the velocity and accuracy. Seeing is believing when it comes to bullet design.

[@johno1084]

I run hornady 190 gr .308 sub-x bullets made for blackout in 300 win mag. Also 130gr speer .308 hp bullets. They both work great loaded to fairly hot.

[@jonathanrogers9961]

Thank you! I accidentally bought 200 of the 150g blk gold dot bullets for my 30-06 over a year ago. Was not sure what I was going to do with them! Looks like they will work fine in my 30-06 in the 2900fps range

[@no.step.on.snek.2423]

Yeah i think youll be just fine under 3,000

[@RRTSBloodyknife]

Send them to me I'll use them in my blk out lol

[@jonathanrogers9961]

@@RRTSBloodyknife thankfully I can make use of them

[@RRTSBloodyknife]

@@jonathanrogers9961 i know I'm just teasing lol

[@jonathanrogers9961]

@@RRTSBloodyknife I know. I considered trying to sell them, or just melting them down to cast some handgun bullets with. However I have been super busy with some other projects so I may come back to it and work a load up for it in a couple months.

[@rdsii64]

The 300 blackout version load in a 16 inch 308 would make a great combination. Their might be either a SCAR 17 or a 16 inch AR10 in my future.

[@THPOOKY]

LOVE these gel block tests!

[@paulharveu526]

Those 55gr would absolutely do the job on hogs and deer. Sure, would be nice to have 100% weight retention, but loosing 10-15 grs off the 55gr starting weight is still excellent.

[@Nick-sx6jm]

They would 100% be okay for deer. First couple deer I took when I was 8 was with a 22-250 because of the low recoil and how accurate I was with it. I know that just some standard federal 55gr blue box will kill deer quickly at 20-225 yards so these would do even better.

[@bennettwinn4809]

I swear sometimes it's like you're in my mind!!! Great topic for a video.

[@theelwhastrummer7166]

Those are some great comparisons, between bullets driven at standard velocities, vs hair on fire. I'm also super impressed with Speer, the Gold Dot bullets really hold together.

[@briangullickson9013]

Super impressive performance from those Speer gold dots!! I appreciate you taking the time to put this informative video together.

[@yeates26]

Love the gel block tests. Might I suggest using a strap to keep blocks on table.

[@johncashwell1024]

Shannon, your scale reminded of the video you did where you compared scales and showed that some scales may not move when you trickle at low weights. I was on Lyman's Website and Lyman has issued a RECALL on 2 of their scales for that very reason. I just thought I would pass that on.

[@mikebeddingfield2144]

I would like to say thank you for sharing your knowledge with us all you are very informative and helpful to the reloader community. Keep up the great work you do we all appreciate it.

[@williamkillingsworth2619]

Note to self- don’t get shot with a .300winmag

[@RMosher11]

7:31 Ladybug sighting. Walking up the handle on the left of the screen

[@CaveWyatt]

Hey! I’ve been decapping and cleaning brass (now that I have some rain water to use) and even some loading this weekend and I’m reminded that I really need to thank you for showing us that Franklin tumbler tank “wrench” on Etsy. Makes life a whole bunch easier! You’re a god among men!

[@JohnnysReloadingBench]

Glad it's helping!

[@mhedden033]

The FART extractor is excellent! I always shill for those guys when I get a chance.

[@user-td1zo3tv9p]

If I might trouble you for some info, but your posts (along with many other shooting sites) haven't been showing up, but the writing about the Franklin tumbler "wrench" caught my eye. Could you please clue me into what date that episode was so I could look into a tool I might need for my tumbler? I'm not sure I'm experiencing the same "problem" but if there is a better mousetrap out there, I'm all for it. Thanks in advance, Sir.

[@CaveWyatt]

@@user-td1zo3tv9p There are actually two concurrent episodes here about 3D-printed accessories, covering the “FART Extractor” and “others”, and they both dropped on July 11, 2021.

[@mhedden033]

@@user-td1zo3tv9p July 11, 2021 : kzbin.info/www/bejne/ZqeymnaebdB-jbc

[@CplSkiUSMC]

You should have invited the Slow-Mo Guys to the party. I would have loved to see the temporary wound cavity on those.

[@baddestmofoalive]

Me and the fellas we just talking about light weight, high velocity 22-250 and magnums for defeating armor yesterday…. If I were wearing armor,I think I’d be more worried about a good ol’boy with a dialed in varmint rig above most anyone else…. Would be sweet to see these against some 3/8” AR500 or even some Lvl4 plates.

[@shanevonharten3100]

Very interesting. A while back i loaded 150gr 30-30 projectiles into my 308, acted like varmint grenades.

[@BikerDash]

Hmmmm... using the .300 Blackout 150gr Gold Dots, I could add another 100 yards to the max distance I'd be willing to harvest a deer from, assuming that I am able to find a load that my rifle likes. The current ammo of choice (.308 Winchester Federal 150gr Core-Lokt) I limit myself to 300 yards endure enough velocity to achieve reliable expansion. At about 400 yards, the bullet would be reaching the energy lower limit I have chosen to limit myself to. I'm impressed with how well these bullets have held together at the velocities you tested them at. Excellent job, good Sir!

[@Thousand_yard_King]

I'm very biased because I own a 300 win mag, so I love seeing what different bullets of different weights will do, especially behind different powder charges. It's amazing because you can load the 300 win mag for any game at all. You could shoot coyotes with it or you can shoot grizzlies with it. It doesn't care it will take them all!

[@feetoorourke]

This is a topic I didn't know I needed to see. Can we get the same thing, but in a 6.5 now?

[@jamespugh]

Jrb has video on 6.5. He's taken deer with them and showed the results

[@bwarrior6340]

Would be cool if you can simulate these results for say 150 yards down range. Thanks for the cool videos!

[@craigmcmullen231]

To me, this is the exact reason I only hunt big game with solid copper, bonded or partitioned bullets. These thin walled bullets such as the eld series from Hornady and the GameKing from Sierra just don’t hold up. They don’t do all that bad in gel, but when they hit bone they completely blow apart. I don’t want a complete energy dump in my whitetail or elk. I’d like to save as much meat as possible and have complete penetration. I’m a Barnes guy, but also really like the GoldDot, Accubond, Partition, InterBond, A-Frame, ect….. Now, if I could only get more primers, so I could shoot more. I went from shooting 1000+ rifle rounds a year to maybe 100 conserving what primers I have left. Makes me sick 🤕

[@elkhunter6746]

Those gold dot bullets are great bullets. I'm testing the Barnes LRX and the new Hornady CX in the jell now. Great videos keep up good work

[@M.H.D.actual]

Man I love these bullets, I wish they were more available, just have to find them when they come in I guess. Shot a hog recently down in Texas with a 168 grain out of a 308 and the bullet performed excellently, little 40lber shot down through it's backside and out the bottom of the chest. Opened that thing up like a zipper up the middle.

[@deplorablesrus8457]

I like Gold Dots. I loaded up a good bit of the 168gr. for my .308 rifles.

[@1diggers1]

Those gold dots are impressive. I'd really like to see some more videos with copper bullets (preferably in 6.5 Grendel, once they become available, some day in the distant future), I can't hunt with lead in my state, so copper is it.

[@jamespugh]

Awesome test jrb. Super suprized the 150gr 300blk bullet held together. That explain why acted like did 300blk. As the normal 150gr did realy good . And 22-250 glade see it back on channel. Think need finsh up the testing and serious on it .

[@nickp862]

Need to find some of the 165s and work up for my 300wm. Looks like a hell of a deer killer

[@M.H.D.actual]

I have some in 168gr variety, and they have impressed me so far in .308, big fan of the gold dot bullets.

[@guardianminifarm8005]

Very interesting test. But valuable in many ways. Quite a bit of information in this. Thank you.

[@tyler6147]

I want to test some bullets from maker rex. They have a 125 grain expanding 300 blackout bullet as well as some various weight expanding .223 bullets. I have a 9" 300 black out and a 10.5" 5.56. I want to see how those perform in gel out of short barrel lengths.

[@lemonaid1605]

Good info, thanks! It would be interesting to see what these same bullets would do with velocities downloaded to what they would be at say 500 yards.

[@freekshow0011]

How about some gel tests with the hornady a-tips?

[@M.H.D.actual]

I would love to see these as well as the 147gr ELD match in 6.5, I believe they have 153gr in the A-tip.

[@darianballard2074]

Very cool video! 😁 I love the fast stuff.

[@Alan.livingston]

Great video as always. Not tried reloading any gold dots yet but they seem to be well worth a look.

[@CountryWolf_TX]

One of these days I will reload. One of these days. Great video!

[@darvinclement3250]

Pretty impressive. I'd be curious what the accuracy is.

[@WayStedYou]

I've had good results with the speer deep curl (flat lead not hollowpoint version) 240 grain in .44 magnum and they are also a fair bit cheaper than the gold dots. Peel back nicely and basically lose no mass from 20 inch barrel.

[@finniganshomestead2956]

I think I have some of those 55 grain GD left some place. I may just cork some 223WSSM brass with them and see how they do north of 4000 ft/sec just for fun.

[@xnorcal831x]

I feel the sun changed the color of the blocks while testing. Going from 22 250 to 223 it got darker. Hit the blocks with a torch lightly and it melts just the wrinkles out if the sided of the blocks.

[@ryankobilansky2500]

That's fantastic. Still pretty interested in the .22-250 with gold dots. If they can hold together at muzzle velocities. You'll be maximizing performance of the round down range at 150 or 200 when they're still at the muzzle velocities of an AR.

[@ryankobilansky2500]

Took a muley buck at 250 yds with a 75 gdsp out of a .22-250. Bullet was still traveling at about 2600 fps or roughly MV of a .223. Hit shoulder, cracked a rib, lungs=mush, & exited the other side just behind shoulder. Deer ran bout 20'. Punches above it's weight for sure.

[@Gahmaz0z]

I did some testing on 10% gel. 6.8 spc shooting the 90gr Gold Dot at roughly 3000 fps. It held together but under penetrated.

[@rangetime6779]

Great content! Thanks for your work

[@tugboat_actual]

I used the 110 tac tx out of 06, wqs stupid awesome results

[@sbhcmcc]

I really like the 62 gr gold dot in 223. I’m gonna see if I can take a couple does with it after the rut. Very accurate out of my spr

[@reloadnorth7722]

I never hear much about Speer. It seems everyone goes gaga for Hornady, Sierra, Barnes etc. I have used Speer BTSP regularly and find they work very well in 308, 30-06, and 300 Win Mag.

[@DanielBoone337]

It would've been pretty cool to see what those 120gr Gold Dots would do out of a 6.5 Creedmoor also... I know with the 120gr Barnes TTSX bullets I'm getting over 3000fps and I have a good bit less case capacity with those all coppers compared to a Gold Dot. But can't wait to see how these are going to do!!!

[@DanielBoone337]

Well those 55gr Gold Dots were impressive I was still expecting them to blow apart. Bonded or not once you get them going fast enough especially when you don't have much to start with I figured they were going to blow apart. I love these bullets!!!

[@antdawgg9923]

120s are deadly. No tracking required. I also didn’t push them very fast.

[@DanielBoone337]

@@antdawgg9923 5 of my 6 deer last year was killed with the 120gr Gold Dots out of my 20 inch 6.5 Grendel... I'm only able to get around 2500fps with them but I'm assuming with a 6.5 Creedmoor you should be able to get up there in the high 3000's maybe even up to 3100's fps. I've got a huge stockpile of the 120gr for my Grendel and the 55gr and 75gr bullets for my 223/556 rifles. I'll eventually try them in one of my Creedmoors just out of curiosity what kind of velocity are you getting with them??

[@WayStedYou]

@@DanielBoone337 Looks like they would be perfectly fine in a .223 or something slower.

[@DanielBoone337]

@@WayStedYou Most definitely... I keep 55gr Gold Dots in my short barreled AR's. I don't have the money to spend on gel blocks but I get really good expansion on water jugs at 100 yards along with nearly 100% weight retention.

[@stuartsmith4882]

Be interesting to see if the 300 blackout gold dots hold a group at 100yds when pushed that hard, the bullet might be distorted and destabilise.

[@MyLonewolf25]

Using 20% is fine if you just looking for deformation but the big thing with gel tests is repeatability, verifiably, and a consistent medium to compare to. Changing the density means none of the data here can be compared to anything but other 20% gel tests which vert few do

[@novicereloader]

Great tests, man.

[@Edwinthe7th]

I've had the weird idea to try the Barnes 110 or 120 tac bullets they make for 300 BLK in a 308 for a while. Is there any chance you might load a few and try them on your new gell?

[@wildcat_reloading]

When are we doing a 100 yard gell test again, i like those a bit more, its more realistic on my mind

[@Nam8Macs]

Very cool, thanks Johnny!!

[@iflystuff1]

Subsonic 6.5 Grendel.......I NEED IT

[@John_Redcorn_]

Looks like theyd be perfect 308win bullets. I’m thinkin the normal GD/Fusion wouldnt be needed at those velocities. Might even give you more “knock down” power from the quicker expansion. Kinda a quasi monolithic without the price tag

[@awbernardy]

I have the 120gr Barns Bullet for the 300 bulk out loaded in my 30-06.. very accurate have yet to take a deer with.. have them hitting .75” high at 50y and 1.8” high at 100y and 1.25” low at 200y Figured it being a all copper bullet it would be a better choice..

[@Nick-sx6jm]

Eh copper bullets have been nothing but disappointment in terms of terminal performance for me. Just zip through without doing much damage and cause bad blood trails or lost game on what should have been a bang flop.

[@awbernardy]

@@Nick-sx6jm the 168gr TSX Barns have not let me down... have take 7 deer with those and not one made past 20yards

[@Nick-sx6jm]

@@awbernardy I tried to like them because a buddy convinced me with xray pictures of lead fragments and good penetration etc. I tried the ttsx's in a 257 wby, 7mm, and 340wby, factory ammo and reloads, different lot numbers, and they all let me down. Ended up losing a 400+ lb bear and 3-4 hour track jobs on deer. All of them were in the sweet spot for impact velocity at around 2600-3000 fps but they just didnt seem to expand at all. One buck I took at 350 yards with the 257 entered at the last rib and came out right behind the shoulder with a 257 dia exit and zero blood to the point I was just about to give up before I stumbled upon it. So I stay away from anything copper because partitions, accubonds, or even eldx's give much better terminal performance and I dont think lead frag is really an issue with anything other than varmint bullets.

[@michaelkaylor6770]

Great vid, great test, thanks for the info!

[@azureoval]

I love my Hardcore Funnels. I got a bunch of them

[@rider547]

Nice video Johnny! We always see the energy values at different velocities but seeing is believing!!! BTW, how’s the 3D printing coming along?

[@nickp862]

Oh another killer light goofball load for 300 win. 125gr nosler 70gr h100 win case and cci 250. Have no idea how fast they're going. But no pressure signs grouped right at 3/4 moa and my barrel sounded like a tuning fork lol

[@tomphillips2608]

I called Speer and asked for load data for my 260 rem for the 120 gold dots. The rep said there was no data , and no plans to test. Maybe someone can clue them in as to what a good deer/hog bullet they actually have. (Hint hint nudge nudge).

[@MyLonewolf25]

Can we see the 150 blk ones in 308?

[@m2kkillshot]

Looking to get into reloading myself for the riffles that I have and kind of curious on a couple of ideas I have for the one caliber that I have. I am contemplating 350 legend loads and was curious as to how it would perform using standard 9mm bullets that are just under the .355 diameter spec that is called for in loading a 350 legend or abut using bullets intended for loading in a 357 magnum pistol in the actual .355 bullet diameter spec but using solid brass projectiles instead of bonded or jacketed lead rounds. I am curious as to how they would perform in my AR350 legend riffle with a 16 inch barrel. I currently do not have any reloading equipment yet so I am asking before I go out and buy a bunch of equipment and powder and stuff so that I know what to expect and what I should be using to start down the road in reloading my own ammo. I also have a .308 ruger american riffle and a .45acp carbine that I would also possible like to reload for as well.

[@mblake0420]

Wish they would make a 125 for 300 blk. Please use 20 percent gel as catch block. Please spend more time on damage path.

[@8626John]

As Frank Zappa said, speed kills.

[@jdrollason]

Was the use of the Magneto Speed because of the velocity orr because....meh why not...I'm feeling it's a Magneto Speed day?

[@jeffyoung2089]

Thanks Johnny!

[@KS-ko9on]

Wait so the 22-250's were too hot to shoot out of your brother's gun... does that mean you picked up a 22-250 of your own?? So excited to see more in that caliber if so.

[@rustyshackleford6369]

How is there no comment about the ladybug climbing the powder dropper 😂

[@texpatriot8462]

When you said 80 grains, I thought you misspoke. That’s a metric buttload.

[@JohnnysReloadingBench]

A pound of powder goes quick!

[@Forumrida38621]

Shannon have you ever used gordons reloading tool or quickload? I'm getting 3100 fps with a 77 grain bullet in a 223 wylde bolt gun 26inch barrel

[@TexanUSMC8089]

I shoot Gold Dots in 120gr 6.5 Grendel and 140gr 6.5CM. They work great, but not the most accurate bullet in these two rifles. Not bad accuracy for hunting though.

[@kevindietiker7887]

Off subject I'm building a 6.5 grendel. I have an 18in aero precision barrel and can't decide what bcg to go with. Any suggestions.

[@deereater_actual]

you should try a speer tnt in the 300 win mag

[@number40Fan]

125 grainers? Think he could hit 4k fps?

[@deereater_actual]

@@number40Fan I think those 79 grain from Lehigh defense would get you to that speed

[@number40Fan]

@@deereater_actual I'm not looking for that kind of speed. I'm not sure the bullet would survive the 10 foot trip to the gelatin either!

[@littlehuey5679]

Why is it so hard for you guys to run a strap over the gel blocks so they don’t jump off the tables ?

[@joshhub6989]

Do you have a video of the specs of your ar 10 and the krieger barrel. I want to get me one but I don't want to order the wrong stuff I've never built a ar 10

[@S2Paintball]

I've been entertaining the idea of picking up a Savage 110 PCS (pistol chassis 110 with a 10 inch barrel) in 308 and using a reduced load with that 300 BLK Gold Dot around 2200-2300 fps, wonder if I'd get optimal expansion out of that bullet at those velocitys...

[@JohnnysReloadingBench]

I was wondering the same thing. I will put it on the list of stuff to test!

[@coreymoyers]

What’s the fastest you can push an all copper bullet?

[@DuckersAI]

Would love to see vid of testing they’re BC numbers! Definitely scewed and higher than they really are!

[@Bifistik]

Barnes 30 cal Bullets next? I’d even send you some

[@JR-lg7fd]

Is that a Corelle brand bowl?

[@richardthomas6602]

So are gold dots king in your experience?

[@lovetoflylovetofly3843]

I would love to see either one of those calibers with those velocities smack a yote, that would turn them inside out!!!

[@thelittledetailscr7231]

How did you get Reloader 26?!

[@TheFlanman10]

Buttt what about the .22-250?

[@jasonwhite6682]

This one has killed more than a few deer in 308 Winchester in northern Minnesota

[@alexduke5402]

That's damn lady bugs are EVERYWHERE!!! THEY ARE TAKING OVER THE SOUTH EAST!!!

[@JohnnysReloadingBench]

I can't wait for it to warm up so they'll be gone for the summer. The stink bugs and the lady bugs are a yearly plague.

[@alexduke5402]

@@JohnnysReloadingBench i know, I'm not sure how they get into this but they are all over the place. I'll take ladybugs over mosquitoes any day of the week though!

[@wambolt1212]

is over crimping a bullet just bad for accuracy or can it also be dangerous to shoot?

[@jacobackley502]

My buddy used to load his 44 mags so damn crimped you'd think a gorilla ran the press. Never seemed to cause much trouble, but wouldn't feed in a 94 from the huge ridge the crimp would make. Revolver didn't seem to care

[@wambolt1212]

@@jacobackley502 thanks alot!

[@TheDbcobra]

Want see 6.5 prc testing

[@theldun1]

Speer Gold Dot's are the best bullets on the market period.

[@benjaminbrown1179]

Sha-BOOOOOM!!!!

[@jamesstratton4488]

Thanks

[@tomburson5554]

Where did you get that small scale?

[@JohnnysReloadingBench]

Amazon amzn.to/3JMr3cU

[@farmtrout66]

😎👍 interesting

[@montgomery6104]

👍👍

[@bigracer3867]

👍😎

[@farmboy2848]

Gold dots are bada@&.. just like johnny. Or is it Shannon 🤷🏻‍♀️

[@jeffallen3382]

How do they bond the cores to the jacket on these?