Gellert Grindelwald vs Tina Goldenstein and Newt Scamander

When me and my friends saw Grindelwald take the form of Johnny Depp, we were instantly giddy!!! Yeah that's right we love the Depp.

[@mgreco712]

People talk about Grindelwald's feats in this movie but few talk about how strong Graves must have been that no one noticed a difference

[@roemtelen7073]

That is what I was thinking

[@mfenix88]

It would make sense that Grindelwald chose graves for that reason being aware of his capabilities

[@charlielay537]

In the opening scene, grindelwald disintegrates two or more aurors, I reckon he killed graves in the beggining

[@krishnas5934]

Compared to HP series i love the way they show duel in in Fantastic beasts it's kind of quick and matured which tells how powerful the characters are. You can see in Tina Vs Grindelwald duel how powerful Gindelwald is.. Tina uses both her hands to catch her wand but gindelwald uses one hand to deflect the spell..

[@katakurifan5213]

Too true

[@SoaringxDragon]

Don’t forget he threw a truck wandlessly too

[@discotech6178]

You know its a powerful wizard when they don't tell the names of the spells but this show its almost all of them

[@SoaringxDragon]

@@discotech6178 it’s non verbal casting, it’s taught to students. Harry’s generation learned it during 6th year

[@beest8504]

@@SoaringxDragon In the HP books, even very powerful characters like Bellatrix cast verbal spells (like stupefy)

[@balkanedukacija1628]

Damn boy. Those skills with wandless magic and moving railway up and down.

[@TheAmericanCrusader]

Impressive. Most impressive.

[@andraenicholson3557]

@@TheAmericanCrusader but he is not a Jedi yet...

[@Sorakeyblademaster37]

@@andraenicholson3557 He's definitely a Sith with that lightning.

[@firestriker3580]

No

[@firestriker3580]

@@Sorakeyblademaster37 no

[@samalvey8168]

The level of power showcased by Grindelwald here is terrifying. Tina is a brilliant Auror and Newt powerful enough in his own right but here they can't even touch him.

[@iceyplayz3388]

Yeah Newt used his creatures to defeat them.

[@alfredohumberto2222]

@@iceyplayz3388 And like 20 aurors attacking him at once

[@greatmoviehighlights4621]

@@alfredohumberto2222 and he wasn’t even trying

[@Bsmith806]

And this is him without the Elder Wand

[@user-jd6dh6yh4g]

😂😅😅😢😅😢

[@yoshikagekira2838]

Me before: damn thats one POWERFUL auror! Me after: Ohhhhhhhh

[@Sassywizard]

Makes sense why he was OP. 😂

[@tommychappell6359]

What aurora? And why did it make sense who was OP?

[@SF-fj6rr]

@@tommychappell6359 Auror is the police version in the Wizarding World. Like you’ve got to be an elite (skillful strong etc) to be an Auror.

[@tommychappell6359]

@@SF-fj6rr ah cool.. well that's interesting

[@SF-fj6rr]

@@tommychappell6359 Yeah, jfyi Harry Potter (and Ron Weasley, but the latter quit some years later) became an Auror after defeating Voldemort.

[@666The1Legion]

I’m glad they showed more wandless magic in this film. The way he effortlessly throws a car at her with the wave of his hand 🔥 That’s some next level telekinesis.

[@mauricioconto3635]

Voldemort tenía telequinecis y máximo podía solo despojar de la varita a otros, u botar muertos como si le pesará un poco, mientras que Grindelwald podía mover carros con una mano como si nada, niveles de poder muy sorprendentes

[@Njilin]

The craziest thing about Grindelwald here, is that the spells he does while using the wand are likely the ones that are supposed to emulate Graves because if you look at these examples, whenever he waves his hand the results are VERY dramatic. Like, he fights Tina and there's a battle of sparks, but then he waves his hands and a friggin 3 ton vehicle comes FLYING at her, and then when he fights Newt, more sparks but he gets frustrated and waves his hand and the solid steel railways become malleable whips, not to mention just casually motioning at Credence and sending him flying away like a ragdoll.

[@ayushkumarjha9921]

The fact that (Mr Graves) Grindelwald was intentionally holding back in the fight so that people won't find his true identity otherwise he would destroy Tina and Newt easily.

[@alienus9092]

True

[@KORNEWARRIOR]

stop speculating shit gosh

[@alienus9092]

Only reason why newt won was because he hit him from back

[@popg8710]

For those saying that they don’t like how there isn’t much color with the spells. There isn’t that many in Harry Potter either. Only time I saw any colors were in the spell clashes

[@Reliavl]

I think they did that because new york’s got this old fashioned style

[@ayeitsjonjon]

Only green and red for yk what spells

[@katakurifan5213]

@@Reliavl Lame reason if true

[@Bragglord]

Still better than this, magic is just reduced to flashlight shooty sticks in this...zero ingenuity and lazy with the magic.

[@yanyanzhang5813]

@@Bragglord Protego Diabolica and Finite: hold my butterbeer.

[@traptinseid8577]

I remember when I first watched this scene I was like "WHAT THE FUCK? Who's this guy who can use wandless magic like that???"

[@TheAmericanCrusader]

He is SITH!

[@traptinseid8577]

@@TheAmericanCrusader The Dark Side I sense in him...

[@minecraftsteve6997]

@@TheAmericanCrusader no he is a wizard

[@TheAmericanCrusader]

@@minecraftsteve6997 r/wooosh

[@minecraftsteve6997]

@@TheAmericanCrusader dead meme

[@imaheadout457]

I think their spells are white or bluish-white because it is a stunning spell or a petrification spell. Macusa's aurors probably uses a stunning spell, petrification spell, and disarming charm primarily for direct combat against hostile violators instead of spamming unforgivable curses.

[@mikeyfrederick1232]

Spamming unforgivable curses...I like the sound of that lol

[@gungeternal4119]

@@mikeyfrederick1232 Yeah lol Voldemort Strat right there

[@Sorakeyblademaster37]

Stunners and Expelliarmus are red. The movies made almost all the magic whitish after Order. I think it's because it's easier and cheaper to animate. Unforgivables seem to be almost impossible to cast non-verbally. The only person ever shown doing so is Voldemort. Not even Bellatrix spams them.

[@oawzr]

@@Sorakeyblademaster37 Ron did it actually. When he was running from Nagini with Hermione in the Deathly Hallows Pt. 2 movie, he casts Avada Kedavra without saying anything.

[@firestriker3580]

That isn’t true

[@daryl4894]

I like grindelwald he is my favorite!!!

[@darthskywalker1885]

Mine to.

[@TheAmericanCrusader]

If Johnny Depp plays a character, I automatically like that MFer. #ILoveTheDepp

[@xoler2167]

@@TheAmericanCrusader I refuse to watch fantastic beasts without him #JusticeForJohnnyDepp

[@R31580]

He has a nose

[@brysongobel546]

“Tina you’re always turning up where you’re least wanted” I have a feeling that line’s gonna mean something later in this series.

[@archington1851]

And it never did

[@obbligato35]

​@@archington1851About that..

[@MercW11]

​@@archington1851 We still have hope, maybe they'll decide to give us 2 more movies.

[@ConnorNotyerbidness]

​@@MercW11theyve confirmed total cancellation

[@EatFuckingTimothy]

I guessed right that this man was grindelwald once I saw him asking Credence for the girl. Cant believe I guessed it.

[@unitedstatesofamerica9948]

Ok

[@aseem2985]

1:10 I always lose it at this part. Idk why but it's badass and hilarious at the same time. 😂💀

[@shinjansaha240]

I think he struggles little bit because the wand was not his and he was struggling to cast spell with it

[@MohammadHossainMD]

lol me too

[@MarvoloSalazar]

Lmao thought it was just me

[@ashadow4313]

@@shinjansaha240 It makes sense then why he prefers casting without a wand in this movie.

[@JoseCarrillo-kc8es]

@@shinjansaha240 i don't think so, remember that he probably killed the real Graves, so in that case the wand belongs to him. I think that his face isn't one of effort, but a rage one.

[@ntfrb4469]

I never had favorite character in Harry Potter universe, but since The Fantastics Beasts i have a favorite character: Gellert Grindewald. 🙏🙏🙏

[@ohmygoditsronaldo]

Grindelwald would've been an extremely powerful Force user.

[@TheWhiteFoxTruth]

HP: I can't cast! I don't have a wand! Some guy 50 years ago: ✨👏

[@DiogoSiilva]

They can do in Harry Potter too but you have to be very strong we are talking about Grindelwald

[@shashi_singh511]

1:22 The way he looked at Credence was so 😍😍

[@gabrieliligan1416]

Damn, Grindelwald fights like a Jedi...

[@devynthomas8988]

1:10 This is why you don't mess with Grindelwald...

[@francheskajulien8799]

Grindelwald fights like a Boss 🔥🔥🔥 I love his fighting style he knows how to handle himself in a FIGHT

[@johnwilk3655]

The HP book duels are so interesting and this is just blue lighting spell over and over again.

[@andydrums4333]

The thing is, Newt was doing just fine, it's just that he was looking out for Credence as well. The only time Newt got hit with a spell is when he looked for Credence. If Credence weren't there, Newt could have held him off for longer

[@JoseCarrillo-kc8es]

I don't think so bro. I mean i know that Newt couldn't fight properly but Grindelwald also wasn't trying to kill him quickly, he just wanted to make him suffer and maybe he didn't wanted to kill him in front of Creedence. I think that if they both were in conditions of a fair fight, Newt couldn't stand for a second

[@lonestarwolfentertainment7184]

I don’t know what it is but there is something about the Spell Casting in this movie (these scenes in particular) that feels Grittier then it ever did in the Harry Potter movies even towards the end when the Franchise started getting darker.

[@Pattmore]

1:10 newt really is getting WOUPED 😂

[@HJRC_]

The only thing that can stop Grindelwald's death beams is Newt's plot armor lol

[@j1n89]

1:19 thats defenetly dark lord chin chin

[@Aurora-dj6fo]

My fav Grindelwald actor

[@alexandermedinamartinez9177]

She had the chance to actually kill him, or, at least stun him without warning. If only she hadn't called him by name before attacking him.

[@fersho450]

He can See the future. So if She attacked he would blocked it

[@llamarada6513]

@@fersho450 he doesn’t see the future in that way, but he has prodigious reflexes, he would have blocked

[@kikaa1884]

Gellert Grindlewald is most powerful and strongest dark wizard of all time with or without Elder wand also before lord Voldemort was teenager. He is finished in 1945 lost to Dumbledore in a duel he was thrown in Prison for 50 years he lost his powers and skills everything but still he wasn't afraid of lord Voldemort.

[@Lord-Xeno]

bro easily block leta lestrange attack from the blank point without looking back..

[@dominusdone5023]

@@Lord-Xenomaybe because it was obvious? He’s good at legglimency and

[@kaitoshiro450]

Dart Sidius: POOWEEEEEEEEEEEEER. 0:55

[@TayyabKhan-hh6kx]

For someone to be considered stronger than Voldemort, this guy sure takes his time to kill of a guy who isnt even that good at dueling.

[@sandeepfrancis3568]

Its Hitler... Voldermort saw what Hitler did and realized the full breadth of evil he can perform... Grendelwald is only WW1 evil

[@benovermire3372]

I think grindelwald enjoyed inflicting pain while Voldemort just wanted to kill.

[@mr.jameson218]

He's not considered to be stronger. Literally everyone says Voldemort is the most powerful dark wizard ever. Grindelwald got his cheeks clapped even when he had the Elder Wand.

[@Bill_Cipher_OG]

@@mr.jameson218 actually if you are talking about jk Rowling then my guy look at her tweet again she writes that if voldemort and Grindelwald fairly with their ORIGINAL wands then in a duel Grindelwald will defeat voldemort because even thought he had less knowledge in dark arts then voldemort and was a shade less powerful then him but he was FAR more knowledgeable in magic as a WHOLE. He was much more skilled and manipulative. And also if voldemort was a parsemouth then Grindelwald was a seer meaning a person can see future so he can also pretty moved of voldemort. And when Dumbledore defeated Grindelwald. There were 2 primary reasons 1 Dumbledore was in his PRIME at the time he faught Grindelwald while he was old and weak as compared to when he faught voldemort and he was not trying to kill voldemort only startling him long enough for ministry to see that dark lord had returned. 2 Grindelwald didn't wanted to kill Dumbledore because he was his best friend while Dumbledore was furious at Grindelwald for killing his sister Hope this explains :-)

[@Kikotingin]

@@Bill_Cipher_OG cool facts. But please learn how to differentiate “then” from “than” :)

[@MrAbhix7]

In this movie I truly felt like grindalwald was a dangerous wizard on prowl, unfortunately the rest of installment didn't feel so

[@A.N.A8]

Colin Farrell was extraordinary in this movie, I was hugely disappointed when they revealed Johnny Depp at the end. I wish he was the original Grindelwald.

[@_LetsGoMe_]

I love how Gellert uses both hands to fight instead of relying solely on his wand like the people sixty years after this happened. 😂😂😂😂😂 which is why he was the more effective ‘dark lord’

[@ae7746]

I still have a crush on Percival

[@suckit0069]

he"s way better than voldy

[@mr.jameson218]

Weaker.

[@Bill_Cipher_OG]

@@mr.jameson218 stronger

[@sofia-hh2lw]

No at all

[@Bill_Cipher_OG]

@@sofia-hh2lw * not at all

[@NagiSeishiro9]

​@@mr.jameson218better>stronger

[@easylearningwithcheshta7726]

Newt vs Grindelwald is my favorite scene in fantastic beasts 1

[@katakurifan5213]

Even though Newt shouldn't stand a chance since one he was expelled and 2 his chosen career wasn't to be an Auror it was to be a Zoologist

[@ajiththomas2465]

@@katakurifan5213 To be fair, Newt probably had to learn quite a bit offensive and powerful magic in order to be able to contain and take care of his 100+ Magical Creatures in his Ridiculously Expanded Magical Menagerie Briefcase. So it's not as unbelievable as some may believe.

[@lolerie]

@@katakurifan5213 he did not... i mean he was litterally on the floor.

[@xarbinchaoticneutral1785]

Say what you want, but Newt is strong AF. Protego strong enough to deflect (temporarily) G's magic, able to non verbally cast. People overlook the skill it took just to endure an assault from Grindelwald.

[@HarryThomasPictures]

Boy did Tina put up a fight against Grindelwald. Hope she gets a rematch with him in the future movies!

[@juanmanuelmoramontes3883]

She's good, but still wouldn't last much longer if Grindelwald gets serious.

[@ActaNova]

@@juanmanuelmoramontes3883 especially with the elderwand

[@carlosgalvang2199]

Remember Tina is an auror, a very powerfull witch

[@ActaNova]

@@carlosgalvang2199 she’s not as powerful as grindelwald if grindelwald was fully trying she would be dead

[@carlosgalvang2199]

@@ActaNova aurors are very skilled wizards specially trained in defense against the dark arts, their main objective is to capture the dark wizards. obviously she alone could not beat him, but surely she would not lose so easily

[@shorouqtahraoui]

Loyal,just and UNafraid of toil

[@TheFilthyFinch]

Okay.........

[@henriquegabriel798]

I wish this actor be the real grindewald and not just an trasformation

[@imaheadout457]

0:56 Grindelwald whooping Newt's ass😂

[@johnduckworth3866]

He could have killed Tina if he wanted, but he wasn't ready to reveal himself.

[@johnson8212]

I think he really has no plans in killing someone, like he's a darker Albus Dumbledore but not to the extent of killing like Voldemort since he understands the laws of magic

[@hisnotsolonely2961]

I prefer if they do like what vold and dumbledore did in their duel where they use the elements and their spells in the duel.

[@jaredtamay8824]

Would love to see how powerful the real percival is, i mean he was the head auror for a reason

[@kingd.c]

Its wandless magic for me😁

[@ConnorNotyerbidness]

Something i like about how they portray grindewald in the first 2 films is that hes constantly using elemental spells. Lots of lightning and fire, you dont see him ever cast avada kedavra (he has his minions do that for him) It gives him a Very different feel from voldemort, who people often joke was just a 1 trick pony who could only cast crucio and the killing curse and nothing else ....then we got the third film and its right back to avada kedavra

[@TShay92]

Unpopular opinion. Colin would have been perfection as Grindelwald.

[@A.N.A8]

It is a popular opinion

[@puppet8938]

THE GIRL'S SPELL ONLY BLOWS ON THE SHIELD lol

[@drakerydenFalls]

What is that inside white trench coat called? it looks badass lol

[@hikennoace343]

When i watched this movie i almost forgot that it tooks place in the harry potter universe because of the duels

[@Sassywizard]

One of the things I don’t like about fantastic beast is that every spell color is either light blue or white. Where’s the other colors!!?!?

[@SerCorydonRivers]

My guess is americans prefer wandless magic or simple nonverbal spells for combat

[@Sassywizard]

Maximillian Robispierre newt, grindelwald and dumbledore aren’t American and they use bland colours in fantastic beast.

[@borahcn]

Dumbledore Fan no. Not all spells are colored. These are regular combat spells. And mostly they are white or blue or mixed.

[@Reliavl]

“Expeliarmus” and “avadakadavera” aren’t the only spells that can cross duel. Other words, white spells are f*cking awesome.

[@borahcn]

@@Reliavl can’t agree more

[@andrewdova6936]

Sure hope Grindlewald comes out with with build video when the Hogwarts game releases.

[@Chowder12345able]

What annoyed me is how he doesn't just avada kedavra Newt. Like man, he's clearly powerless against you while you're continually zapping him with lightning. Just end it

[@fexdin6178]

Because is a sadistic, death is a easy destiny for the victims.

[@eduardobarrera4196]

He is not Voldemort

[@michael6255]

He doesnt necessarily want to kill wizards. Voldemort was xenophobic and fuelled with hate and rage, Grindelwald is far more complex.

[@KevinLuWX]

0:44 Where did the train go after that?

[@user-kt7zo3no7t]

Доброго дня.

[@DarkLord-pm1eg]

So brave of Tina. She still doesn’t know that she was fighting Grindelwald, and not Mr. Graves

[@thearbiter124]

The fact that she didn't know she was fighting Grindelwald explains why she was fighting bravely.

[@faustoflores7344]

Well we'll most likely get to see Dumbledore vs Grindelwald in the next Fantastic Beasts movie coming April 2022 😱

[@stm81mcn18]

I hope so! It needs something interesting because the 1st 2 Prequels were really disappointing ☹😳

[@TheAmericanCrusader]

It better have Depp in ig

[@galahad1876]

​@@stm81mcn18 give them time. I have hope. Depp exit was a pain in the ass but for the rest of the cast and Mads (who is not his fault) made a great job and I know theyll keep doing it

[@williamedgar9418]

I would like to see newt use more powerful magic

[@adaocardosonetocardoso6560]

Ele é um bruxo muito fraco, não deveria perder tempo tentando proteger os seres mágicos

[@armannorekyan2030]

Which part???Please,say

[@oluwadamilola6233]

This guy should have continued acting Grindelwald after Depp exit

[@scarletwizard5451]

Yes he is very good

[@galahad1876]

No cause he si another character Grindelwald pretended to be. So it wouldn't have made any sense

[@leemayjr6725]

Lightweight feel like that hand car toss he did instead of his wand in fact was his wand he just used his hand cause he’s that good to distract his opponent without even moving his wand up.. even kinda like itachi using one hand to weave signs that shit would throw anyone off their battle game for a moment or two 😂😂😂 like wtf ? He just do that

[@markrisinger7520]

U know grindelwald is almost equal to dumbledoee

[@unitedstatesofamerica9948]

They are equal.

[@lucass8317]

United States of America grindelwalds stronger

[@lolerie]

@@lucass8317 just because of an elder wand. Yet he somehow still lost. Maybe he still loved Albus, LOL.

[@Hadex01]

@@lolerie lol I love Grindelwald and stuff he makes a great villain and is really stylish but people overestimate his abilities. Dumbledore and voldemort are more powerful than him if they duel equally

[@lolerie]

@@Hadex01 that is the problem, both Albus and Gellert were true masters of Elder Wand, yet Tom managed to destroy the whole protection system on Howards not being its true master. LOL.

[@chavez503]

Don’t know why they didn’t take him instead of mads

[@user-kk6wc1dv8h]

Name of the film please?

[@Kingdjstu]

Best magic was performed by grindy

[@jinta87]

Those Blue Flames were pretty... Fantastic.

[@Kingdjstu]

@@jinta87 lmao stop xd

[@dragon501000]

0:35 those spells don't look like they're non lethals rofl.

[@devilpupbear09]

It's a good thing wizards aren't bullet proof

[@TheAmericanCrusader]

Snape: *shoots Voldemort* Simple muggle weaponry.

[@jeanmaillard6001]

my one annoyance is that there are 0 incantation it's supposed to be so hard that even voldemort did do those and yet here everyone do that

[@annyrosier4946]

but it's not hard, at hogwarts they teach non-verbal spells in sixth year

[@iio_moon]

Your annoyance can be fixed if you read the book and know that non verbal spell casting is hard for students who are learning magic. These are all adult wizards who have way more experience and skill than fodders who are learning new spells.

[@jeanmaillard6001]

@@iio_moon I just don't like the concept they may as well give laser gun we don't know what spell they use

[@armannorekyan2030]

Which part

[@rblxcuber8398]

Bro does grindelwald have the force or something

[@mfenix88]

Wandless magic, extremely difficult magic to master, even harder than Non-verbal spells

[@quentinhirschfeld3547]

It's called "wandless magic", only EXTREMELY powerful wizard with immense magical knowledge can do that (such as Grindelwald, Dumbledore, Voldemort)

[@TheAmericanCrusader]

But he is not a Jedi yet...

[@qownson4410]

@@quentinhirschfeld3547 Harry Potter features tons of wandless magic, but once I started noticing it, it changed how I viewed characters. Harry Potter does it a lot when dueling Draco Malfoy.

[@SoaringxDragon]

@@qownson4410 don’t forget spoon guy from the first movie

[@hamoudachebbi9382]

Name of the movie ?

[@TheAmericanCrusader]

Fantastic Beasts and Where to Find Them

[@hamoudachebbi9382]

@@TheAmericanCrusader thanks

[@scharroth6509]

Wandless magic makes it look too much like star wars

[@TheAmericanCrusader]

I love both, THANK YOU VERY MUCH

[@katakurifan5213]

Completely disagree. Jedi don't fire energy blasts or fight mainly with their hands

[@juanmanuelmoramontes3883]

@@katakurifan5213 Well, it depends on the occasion and user, besides, he said "Star wars" not uniquely average Jedi.

[@katakurifan5213]

I can't agree at all there are clear differences

[@katakurifan5213]

@@juanmanuelmoramontes3883 And only force users can do such things so I don't see your point

[@jozefmasny8349]

There are too many wizards, I thought the series will be about fantastic beasts.

[@johnlogic7586]

Never has any spell felt as weak as Tina's, I know it because grindelwald is way stronges but damn, the things felt like nerf bullets

[@DaniGeo3]

I guess that's because Tina's non-verbal magic wasn't that powerful.

[@devynthomas8988]

Voldemort wouldn't last two seconds against this badass icon.

[@vineetasinghverma7505]

#GellertGrindelwald #AreYouMarried?

[@yesuu7]

1:21

[@seanireland8489]

What spell did Grindelwald use to make the car fly at Tina?

[@DiogoSiilva]

Its a normal spell to levitate like wingardium leviosa but he does like that cause is very strong

[@Reliavl]

0:26 did I hear “da glen”

[@sage16]

That’s definitely not gellert grindelwald

[@TheDude_24]

I don't remember seeing Grindelwald having a force 😂😂

[@iio_moon]

it's magic. It's not onlyforce that can do telekinesis

[@TheDude_24]

@@iio_moon it's a joke bro

[@yesuu7]

0:45

[@jefersonalexandre2310]

I don't like the way that magic is used in fantastic bests... In Harry Potter was more organic

[@horcrux9656]

This is the guy people say that he is stronger than voldemort?🤣 voldemort had no match except for albus, the only reason he died is cause of that old magic lily used to sacrifice herself, and the fact that the horcrux was in harry’s soul, and also harry being the last elder wand owner, which you cant kill a wizard with his own wand, and also before the elder wand, the wand that he and harry used are the same core. Grindlewald got caught and got sent to prison, the aurors can never detain voldemort it’s impossible to put the dark lord in azkaban

[@lukaaa8132]

Movie name

[@TheAmericanCrusader]

Fantastic Beasts and Where To Find Them

[@fireflame62]

Why didn't Grindelwald use the killing curse?

[@GiuseppeCadura-8]

Porque quebra a alma do próprio usuário da magia, além de que só feiticeiros de baixo caráter usam isso. Um dos motivos que torna Grindewald muito superior ao Valdemort que é covarde.

[@eldritchinterface7481]

The way Grindelwald just brushes aside Newt’s attack at 0:38 almost contemptuously HNNNGGG

[@thestrong2401]

I haven't seen these movies, but really? They used the same actor that played the guy Harry turns into in the last movie when they need to get to the Umbridge? Lol

[@insertname340]

Lmao this is fantastic beasts, Harry Potter prequel based 50 years before

[@ArgusLart]

What are you talking about? That actor is definitely not here.

[@user-un8bi7cl9r]

Old school magic is overpowered. They haven't showed us ancient magic on film yet.

[@BlueEagle-ce3xb]

Yeah... 'Omg Grindelwald is so powerful'... Right, he has them on the ground in like 2 seconds and then fails to off them for a minute...

[@anthonyjanthonycrowley898]

Grindelwald is a sadist, when he knows he has his enemy beat and there’s nothing they can do to stop him, he genuinely enjoys watching them suffer for no reason. Like a cat playing with a mouse before killing it. And tbf newt has been a pain in grindelwalds ass so

[@jinta87]

Newt was also using the rails as groundings against the electricity lol. Thats why Grindy looked a bit frustrated and kept trying to zap him.

[@transientpassenger3796]

@@jinta87 At which point, a more pragmatic wizard would've switched to a cutting curse, a stunner, or a body binder. Therefore, Grindelwald is either stubborn and impulsive (which fits someone who would try to unleash the Protego Diabolica dragons in a city that he had just attempted to convert to his cause, but doesn't fit someone who can command an international revolution and successfully fight a terror war in all of Europe) or a vengeful sadist who finds satisfying watching Newt suffer and slowly lose the ability to defend himself against the constant electrocution.

[@cuwarie]

That’s not grindelwald bro 😭

[@TheAmericanCrusader]

Yes it is man. Watch the whole movie

[@vaultboy111]

I can't take Credence seriously with that hairdo.

[@TheMadferit1994]

Collin Farrel is the real grindewald, great actor!. Depp was bored as f 😴.

[@Bill_Cipher_OG]

But I think Jhonny is better

[@victoravr10]

Exactly

[@numnum723]

true, Johnny wasnt at his best at the time

[@suckit0069]

he could do wandless magic ? nobody in harry potter could do that

[@wilmar12341]

Albus Dumbledore could, only the strongest wizards can.

[@dj-blue-j3214]

Albus and Voldemort can

[@DiogoSiilva]

Dumbledore, minerva, Voldemort, snape...many of them can

[@stm81mcn18]

Was I the only one who found the whole movie weak and full of fluff apart from the end where he fights off the Aurors? Compared to the Duel between Voldermort & Harry, then Dumbledore vs Voldermort... which were all epic and literally full of energy, this scene was just weak. Harry Potter just had all the Charisma this movie & T.C.O Grindlewald severely lacked. That's why they were a flop because Voldermorts character was more menacing and devious. He was a leader to fear whereas Grindelwald wasn't. Eddie Redmaynes role I just didn't understand and see the point of. Its over use of CGI ruins the whole new franchise.

[@imaheadout457]

This is because Grindelwald's motivation for his actions is “for the greater good." I actually liked Grindelwald's persuasive personality. And this is not a full scale duel where you cast whatever spell in your arsenal to kill your opponent. THIS IS TINA TRYING TO STOP PERCIVAL GRAVES. Grindelwald only used generic auror spell as to not blow his cover. This is what I like about this movie. Compared to Voldemort who hates muggles and always bragged how powerful he is, Grindelwald made a tactical and persuasive approach to gain the sympathy of every wizard he meets. Grindelwald only resorts to violence when things doesn't go as planned.

[@stm81mcn18]

@@imaheadout457 The point still is whether it was a full duel or not and I get his identity didn't want to be compromised until the very end..... but the new concept of these movies still don't match Harry Potter. It didn't exactly get rave reviews. It was make or break and sits somewhere in the middle. Maybe its still early days as the 2nd one didn't really leave much of a cliff hanger except Grindlewald escaping.

[@fanqiejiang1749]

@@stm81mcn18 Maybe because it's not Harry Potter? Harry Potter is about... Harry Potter and this is about Newt Scamander. These two people are extremely different. Voldy and Harry's duel was at the end of the 8th movie... this is the 1st of 5, it's not going to have an epic fight yet. The epic one should be at the last of the 5 between Dumbledore and Grindelwald.

[@alienus9092]

Am I deef or all spels here are cast nonverbal

[@TheAmericanCrusader]

Masters of Magic can do nonverbal casting

[@alienus9092]

@@TheAmericanCrusader whats name of this lighting spell

[@yukingc]

Dis