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[@CIoudStriker]

We yapped so hard that Discord broke for a bit.

[@Kuoanji]

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[@justinmims2700]

Messemers first phase specifically just threw me off so hard, not that it's "hard" I just couldn't seem to get ahold of his moves, but 2nd phase just clicked immediately

[@greydonmccall9680]

For me it was scadu avatar. Like, it wasn't hard I could 3 shot ish each health bar with flame spear milady but for some reason I just could not dodge the thorns and he would whip around and I'd dodge and still get smacked by him just couldn't get the timings

[@Dutchy4564]

Mesmer phase one was fine for me but phase two is insane

[@lights_utopia1130]

@@greydonmccall9680 Ya the thorns took me a few deaths to learn.

[@Domarius_Greyrat]

​@@greydonmccall9680the thorns are pretty straight forward. just roll through them and ur good

[@t-mango2491]

I feel this comment I had an identical experience, wrecked me in phase one like 20 times but got him first shot in phase 2

[@Siberiasun2]

Rellana felt like pontif so much that i found her very fun. And my hardest boss was Bayle, cause i can't NOT summon igon.. i'll take four hits summoning him if i must.

[@papayapayama2087]

if you walk instead of running to his summon sign bayle will always give you time to summon him

[@smugninja]

14:37 Is no one gonna talk about the fact that he has bloodflame blade, but still has his katana infused with blood?

[@juanpablorodgers2388]

@@smugninja Yeah, I noticed that. I wondered why he had it for a weapon that can't be buffed (i think Blood weapons can't be buffed).

[@savelu6282]

24:45 the RWSI talisman is great for light greatsword. The heavy attack does two swings, and you can chain a light attack after, proccing decently quick :)

[@maniacaldriller]

Every single time i go to the DLC, it's MANDATORY for me to have the dragoncrest greatshield, and the crimson seed +1 talisman equipped. So much less flasks used to heal myself, its so useful

[@DLTCanner1]

Relanna I beat in like 3 tries. Messmer, however, I spent probably 5 hours on. Different strokes for different folks, as they say. That's why a tierlist would even exist, because some bosses are hard for some people that others think are easy, and vice versa. Messmer (aside from Consort Radhan) was the hardest boss in the DLC for me. I got the rest in less than 10 tries probably.

[@DLTCanner1]

Messmer was hard for me even running a frost build, if you can believe that.

[@Dave001-l5m]

2:34 Messmer fight is easy, it’s sort of reminds me of normal Radahn fight, it isn’t hard but cinematically a real fun fight, ending up as one of my favorites

[@DLowe-in1zm]

Favorite boss from the dlc. Such a fun fight

[@clemasaur]

i think catwyn had rellana’s cameo on because they were probably using milady with wing stance or rellana’s twinblades beforehand and forgot to take it off when they respec’d for leda’s sword

[@andrei-cezarbleaje5519]

what a dummy

[@yesimchar]

idk why but radahn just clicked for me. it only took me about an hour and a half to kill him with milday. but putrecent knight? nah that took me a whole day

[@gokilla4184]

@@yesimchar bro at least you beat the Putrescent Knight 😭 I had to summon people just cuz I was so tired of him

[@kierancormack2659]

Funny enough. I was the exact opposite. I first tried putrecent, no summons Only used like 2 flasks. But radahn ruined my week.

[@nikfiasco]

rellana’s cameo works great on milady light great sword with the wingstance aow. you have to hold left trigger until you see the red buff around you, then you get the 15% AR boost. this is actually the weapon and aow i used to beat rellana.

[@Sonic44885]

Wing stance is such a good aow it's light triple combo can be followed up with the heavy thrust, granted not many opening where you could do this but it does a lot of damage

[@PaulRoche-iv4oh]

I love these videos, always fun to see what other normal non streamer/youtubers are running for builds

[@Problyscripted]

Honestly for me messmer gave me quite a bit of trouble not because he’s like some crazy op boss but what messed me up was all his 2nd phase snake moves and then the thing where he starts spinning around and does that barrage of pokes

[@chrisjose1166]

The dancing lion, it’s not because it’s hard it’s just the camera Omg the cámara goes mad with that boss

[@rookie9028]

This dude loves jumping you in a corner, don't he

[@Radioactive1602]

I actually had no camera trouble when I fought bro

[@chrisjose1166]

@@Radioactive1602 I don’t know but I when I fought him he was spinning around so much my camera glitched

[@boneman-calciumenjoyer8290]

Fair point, I do get similar issues with Messmer. The camera wants to follow the serpent, but it can not keep up.

[@doitfaster9553]

He had heavy frame drop issues and camera tracking issues in release idk which patch the made it better but that first night holy smokes it was screwed I died more times to frame issues than the boss​@@Radioactive1602

[@braedenaldridge8452]

@GeminiSlay Thank you for showing off high level builds. There’s more of us with these out these but the internet makes us think we need to be crammed into the same level box over and over.

[@MayMaykrueg-tu1bg]

In the dlc commander gaius is a huge pain. But for the main game I actually found malania super easy. Her move set just clicked.

[@elijahboyd2758]

Putrid knight. Worst part was when I perfectly dodged his 10 attack combo, but the game still counted me as hit and killed me.

[@bananagunner8093]

A boss that clicked for me was radagon which apparently a lot of people think he’s hard but he’s just fun for me

[@DeltaModelX]

you gotta quit using scorpion charms its an equal trade at best but if you do split damage its a negative trade, the DLC has many moments where you can get one shot with poor defenses, a better talisman would be crimson seed +1, a 30% boost for free is massive

[@CinnamonYar]

Rellana was really hard for me

[@ender3882]

@@CinnamonYar same but I also think it was one of my favorite bosses in the game. Tough but very fair moveset that I had a good time learning and adapting to.

[@hashtags_YT]

@@CinnamonYar Rellana made me really hard

[@authenticchinese9773]

she just has many combos that looks kind of the same

[@radhanXmiquella]

⁠@@ender3882nothing about her move set was fair and throughout every boss in the main game or the DLC, she took the longest by far Malenia:around 4-5 hours Radhan:about 11-12 hours Rellana:around 22-23 hours

[@CinnamonYar]

Rellana was more unfair then gaius

[@Gman18rox]

i woke up to the yapping on discord, now i know why lol

[@bruucunha]

I’m legit impressed by the range and damage of the needles on Leda’s Sword.

[@animekid3040]

Thank you so much for the great builds and entertainment. One of the builds helped me beat Romina(for me she is the most difficult boss in the Game)

[@Jesusofstupidity]

Same

[@aidansilli4257]

I would say that Rellana is the hardest boss excluding the final boss. She is also my favorite fight in Elden Ring.

[@KavehDaGreat1]

Gaius was smearing me across the floor for 2 days before I got him out of sheer luck

[@DeletosBlue03]

I agree with what you said bout Messemer. He just flowed a lot better compared to other bosses and was a really fun fight, but not a hard one once I understood him.

[@istvanpalanki5316]

dang the Rellana fight was almost like a cinematic fight for a trailer (minus the goof)

[@racnic2758]

I have to show my “The Crucible” build and “The rolling goat”

[@voodo-1standingby494]

commander gaius personally was the hardest boss if we're excluding the final boss because of his awful hitbox

[@stephenclem7404]

Same. I had a terrible time with Gaius. I left and came back to him a few times before getting lucky.

[@ratkoskoco8318]

Yup agree with you on bosses that click for you, for me it was maliketh, didn't need even 10 tries. It took me more tries to beat loretta, a lot more.

[@Goldilocks7O7]

Commander Gaius was that boss for me, I heard tall tales of how irritating and tough he was from so many people. I was excited and prepared to rage when I found him, only to beat him first try. He is the only boss of the dlc I have beaten first try, idk why but like you said his moveset just kinda instantly clicked for me and I didn’t find him very difficult.

[@lootlord8995]

I spent a good amount of time on Gaius and Messmer, but they definitely were not as challenging as I expected. Even Radahn was manageable as long as you have decent defenses and the great rune.

[@NedLafontaine]

Cool video content creator man

[@theclassyviking7351]

4:52 Easiest for me to learn and get used to gotta be Rellana, which i found pretty funny after i beat the dlc since it sounded like everyone else just got walled by her super hard, died on my first attempt to the twin moons, and got her on the second, now i first try her every run. Hardest besides the final boss gotta be Bayle, absolute insanity and my favorite boss fight in the series now, overwhelming you with his immense deathly spectacle, took me 6 attempts to beat him, which was the most any boss killed me till i got to Miquella and Radahn at 35 attempts.

[@hbk.jay__]

I feel the same way about Godfrey the same way you feel about Messmer for some reason I always found his 1st phase entirely harder than his 2nd

[@DonDaDonn]

Ohh This rating build idea is genius 🙌🏾 Content for centuries

[@Kenny_Pax]

mesmer is designed really good none of his attacks feel cheesy, yet still challenging enough. felt kinda like malenia but with a more dodgeable waterfowl

[@Koopaking522]

Easily one of my favorite elden ring video ideas! Keep up the good work!

[@hydrodrift]

Real, All of us figured out Radahn’s move set but still took +1 days to beat it cause of phase 2 and his illusion attacks, not to mention his starscourge move

[@guise3049]

8:53 Using ritual sword with bloody slash is actual comedy.

[@ashen_strix]

I spent about two hours on Scadutree Avatar yesterday, this boss was messing with my head a lot. But so far, I haven't really felt like I was getting completely overwhelmed (albeit Messmer I haven't beat yet cause the flames make me nervous lmao)

[@TGA737]

The real hardest boss in the DLC is the camera freaking out. The easiest I found to be Romina. I absolutely clicked with the Midra fight though, loved that bossfight

[@manicquin1932]

Shard of Alexander doesn't boost the needles on leda's swords ash, just the followup. Build 3 had a bunch of things that just don't work like he thought

[@michaelisanidiot8695]

Honestly from my personal experience I’d say Rellana for number 2. For context I had a NG+7 character duelwielding great katanas and was overwhelmed by her speed as one mistake wouldn’t just cost my some of my health but half of it and with how long her combos could get that could mean death, additionally the slower fighting style of duel wielding wasn’t helping either so I felt I had to try a different build and summon NPCs which I rarely do. Although ultimately, I like that about Rellana and the DLC in general as instead of just fighting every boss with the same boring build I can try out new things to combat boss resistances or speeds and this especially goes in synergy with my character as I’ve leveled everything over 30 (important stats around 60) and don’t need to rebirth and it makes a much more enjoyable experience for NG+7. Stay strong Tarnished, thy hath slain the Elden beast tenfold, hold thy victories into thy hearts and charge into the DLC with valour and joy.

[@APurpleFable]

Messmer definitely clicked really quickly for me, but that makes him my favorite boss. He "felt like home" in a weird sense. I had a hard time learning Rellana's moveset, but i feel like i've got it figured out now. But the Putrescent Knight still scares me. I just don't understand his moveset and i can't tell where he's headed when he moves 😅

[@Adachi333]

i completely understand what you were saying about messmer his move set it pretty scary at first but after you put in a couple of attempts its really easy to get your head around. Personally myself i didnt understand the hype around him and he is no where near the second malenia, malenia is miles harder.

[@pykaswitz]

Bayle has been a nightmare for me. His opening rush as you enter just destroys me every time. Had to walk away and will try again soon.

[@realSpiritualSense]

Bayel the Dread was the hardest for me by far. I can't believe that's not commented more

[@NickST1192]

Agree they really went easy on us with mesmers move set. It is a really awesome fight, but he has a small hp bar, gives wide openings for charge attacks and his moveset is easy to learn and flows really well. Compare that with commander gayus whose moveset isnt as complicated but just does not flow or give you many openings. The moves come out in the blink of an eye and his charge is nearly undodgable. Mesmer 10/10 boss but pretty easy especially with an unga bunga charge R2 build

[@quilloquit]

Mother of fingers. Somehow I kept getting to the side of it and it stomped the hell out of me every chance it got

[@Akeno_PvP]

if you are looking to implement level caps i think 175-200 for base game and 250-275 for dlc would be nice ranges

[@xuijinah]

@@Akeno_PvP dawg what, the base game starting cap is too high

[@Akeno_PvP]

@@xuijinah only for people who do PvP majority of casual players or people who just enjoy PvE are gonna level past 150

[@xuijinah]

@@Akeno_PvP idk man I don't even pvp that much and it just feels bad to level past 150, 170 at most

[@RuriTheHowl]

Personal hardest boss… Rellana. I’m not down playing the others but she gave me the most difficulty. Even when I ended up summoning. Others kinda felt clicked with me and wasn’t horrible :3

[@Stakuga]

The boss that clicked for me that everyone says is hard is godskin duo. I think the most I died to them in a single playthrough is 4. And I didn’t use sorceries.

[@ArnimKuqi]

For me the hardest was the NPS Fight before Radahn because it was: -Frejya -Moore -Dryleaf Dane -Leda I didnt know on which one to concentrate

[@danielpatterson1576]

@@ArnimKuqi generally you want to focus Dane first (and Hornsent if you haven’t already killed him beforehand). Dane will spam ranged attacks, his combos are annoyingly long, and he can heal the other NPCs.

[@another_eu_player8035]

Honestly hardest DLC boss other than radahn has to be bayle by far. I struggle with dragons quite a bit

[@SpuriousAge]

These builds are so boring

[@BILALB301]

So is your face💀looking like average suburban man🗿

[@Sminchy]

Mine WAS gonna be in this, it’s a madness build, but it wasn’t included

[@BILALB301]

@@SpuriousAge womp womp cry

[@smallman932]

​@@BILALB301🤨

[@shortkidevan]

@@BILALB301ratio

[@Lt_Lrrr]

I mean, messmer is hard, but Romina is insane I completely stand by your side

[@50UTHH]

bayle was my hardest lmao

[@fredericoalvaraz]

i’m embarrassed to say that the hardest boss for me was the scadutree avatar. I don’t know why but i could NOT get the move set down for DAYS.

[@Marco791gaming]

It’s okay mine was metyr idk why but I was stuck on her

[@BubbleFish-hp7is]

Same bro

[@Cardbo4rdb0xx]

@@fredericoalvaraz that’s wild lmao 😂. Beat it in three tries with the messmer spear

[@Agriculture-gc4gv]

​@@Cardbo4rdb0xxno shit your using a fire weapon against a plant

[@Cardbo4rdb0xx]

@@Agriculture-gc4gv why wouldn’t I?

[@vblackout---3365]

Did my first dlc playthrough on NG+5, and lemme tell ya, Messmer was a big challenge

[@paulfriesen6601]

To answer your question, yes, I have a boss that people say is really hard but I don't find it hard, and that boss is the Godskin duo

[@gowgox9362]

Messmer has a hard move set but his move set is very easy to learn His opening/punish windows are clear ,his health isn’t too high and most of his attack deal fair damage

[@seanbrooks5863]

Golden hippo is unnecessarily hard but senessax was also really tough for me

[@zsrghosty7204]

I get you mesmers attacks are so fun to dodge

[@hygormotasantos4035]

Bayle had me respec my build twice (skill issue tbh but yeah) so he was the hardest for me. Went with Messmer's spear ftw against him

[@V4der.]

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[@hassanrao470]

Bro you gotta teach your discord members to make better builds. Also 200 is a pretty good level that gives you tons of freedom for most builds. You can reach the soft cap for vig and like more two stats with plenty of extra points for mind, endurance, strength, etc. Also sword insignia actually pairs decently with light greatswords if you play a bit more aggressively but prob not as effective if your build also focuses on using a shield and casting incants.

[@minimeteor41]

I have the same thing with maleketh, I beat him sub 5 attempts, I was so disappointed he wasn’t as hard as people said he was to me

[@PhilipWagner-f6p]

Haven‘t fought all of them yet but until now it definetly was Messmer

[@Supers562]

It’s honestly between Commander Gaius or the Lamenter who makes copies of himself. Messmer would have been close but his second phase is actually easier for me.

[@darkbluemoon211]

Putrescent knight. I had to summon 2 other players to beat it on the 4th try

[@PerpetualSocks]

The hardest boss for me was probably messmer because most my damage is fire and he resists that, so i had to use a sacred black steel greathammer with lions claw

[@ziedghanem7814]

I get what you’re saying with bosses like Messmer that just click. For me, that boss in the dlc was the lion dancer. His move set just felt so natural for me didn’t take me long to beat him

[@ABagOfRadiation]

Same bro

[@herbertmoon998]

Messmer is the only boss, off the top of my head at least, who feels like a good ol' DS boss, instead of whatever the fuck they were going for with the rest of them, mechanically speaking

[@Yellow_Mage_Logan]

I can agree with Messmer not being hard he's one of the only fair fights not incredible hard yet not a pushover either.

[@led5981]

A Boss that clicked for me was dlc radahn. It took me Like an hour and idk just seemed Like the first stage moves are just really easy to dodge and second phase the only thing that cuased me trouble was the falling star things after every attack but it still didnt cuase me any problems.

[@Max-ts1jx]

Over 200 is prolly a good idea, cuz lvl 200 has become wayyy more popular due to the dlc.

[@roseplaysyt1]

Tbh when I first played the dlc on my main account, I struggled with Gauis and romina the most(I reset my play through and missed so much other bosses). On my second account, playing the dlc I didn’t really struggle that much due to how I progressed and bolstered my scadu blessing. But so far I feel Romina gave me the most trouble. (I havent battlef radahn on either account yet so idk how tough he is)

[@TopPotato109]

I’m pretty sure that rellana was tougher for me than even radahn, radahn is tough but manageable and I managed to dodge most of his attacks pretty consistently (outside of the 2 quick swipes into the X which is as far as I’m concerned is undodgeble with mid roll) (pure dex build for the record)

[@akiigraigrice9406]

is it just me that did rellana as their first dlc fight

[@Erdbeerenserver]

I did 90% of the game with my trusted Rivers and Moghs because this was the last build I had from 2 years ago. No magic, just me and my weapons. Only when in front of mighty Radahn I started testing all the new toys. Only got real problems with Messmer and the angry dragon at the top of the mountains. Oh and the first boss at the start because I came back from a 2 years break. Strangely Radahn went down easily after 3 tries. He must have problems with my moveset.

[@arealorangutan9778]

Very off topic for the vid, but I feel like in basically every souls game there are a few bosses where I’ll see a ton of people complaining and it won’t be that hard, but then there will be a boss that people have an easy time on and I’m sitting there for like 40 attempts.

[@tritebs1673]

The boss that clicks for me at least base game is Malenia. As for Shadow of the Erdtree, I'd have to say Relanna or Messmer

[@otex5155]

I was about to say lol, bc I think we can all agree Radahn and Miquella are objectively the hardest. But I’d say for me the hardest besides them is midra. I can never get down his timing, but mark my words I WILL git gud and learn!

[@That1OneKobold2]

Malenia was my Messmer honestly, I didn't struggle with her as much as other people did. Sure her healing sucks, but I struggled more with Fire Giant.

[@your_father19]

For me the fire giant was an cake walk after ng+

[@keepsakegames6847]

Sunflower erdtree. They knew what they were doing creating it.

[@RealMoosterchef]

For me it was Rallanna, or the pubescent knight, but with a random summon I actually beat radanh in two tries!

[@ad8m0]

i've been using a +25 Bloody Milady with the Stormcaller Ash of War, it does really good damage. i recommend trying it

[@ferrety1]

Tbh maybe it’s because of my more offensive playstyle but Bayle was the hardest for me. Even harder than radahn (not too much harder though.)

[@TylerCathey]

4:40 yeah, bayle was easy for me. first boss i beat. i think rellana is the hardest

[@Bananen_999]

Imo Messmer has a very good move set. I'ts straightforward and easy to understand which is probably also why you rate him so easy. He's easy to learn but I'd say he makes it barely into the top 5 hardest. Romina is definitely easier tho.

[@kaidenrune5156]

Maliketh clickes for me and so does the Nameless King from ds3 for some reason

[@someonehimself7417]

I had the most problem with sunflower and putrescent knight. Sunflower was hard to focus for 3 entire phases and putrescent knight's "neutral stance" where he holds his cleaver above his head made it difficult for me to know when an attack was coming.

[@Grantiff-778]

Nice video

[@Poptart2134]

Rellana was the only main boss in the DLC I beat without any summons so far. Messmer on the other hand I needed a 3 on 1 situation for 🤣

[@GreekMorpheous]

That boss for me is melania. I can’t beat base game redahn without being massively over levelled, but for some reason, melania always clicked for me.

[@SIDown18]

Honestly the hardest boss for me was the dancing Lion especially the one in Rhau

[@mixedcompany3225]

Loving the content, but my Bro counter broke watching this one 😂

[@NadoandFriends]

I get that, everyone has different opinions on hardest bosses. I think Messmer is among the hardest, but like all bosses once you understand them they don't become that hard.

[@neya327]

Boar guy was the hardest for me. Didn’t dodge that charge once